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lemme hold some star coins for a crop ticket and i'll be on my way
i got like 600+
Gotta be close to where I am
Even at 15x DR and lvl 250+ vman skill and 100 cardiovascular I'm not getting a guaranteed c.troll card every kill
Right...I still want to pull at least some of my characters out of the lab at this point. Only having my ES1 or BB out of the lab...yeah.
Right now, only my BB is out of the lab, grinding out the W6 Chow's.
I just need better toliet paper for cranium clicks
Whoops, I meant hourly as in vman printer go brr click :). I'm like 1/5-1/10 depoending on sample of yours
Ahh xD i bet by next week depending how your doing your atom clicks you could catch my prints
farmed a little too many lab rings yesterday
I'm hoping next week to set up for a printing session
never enough
jk 2 for bubo was enough for me
I think I can scrap 3 marble sets by then
Moving everyone to Kruk from magma today
If my characters are connected to Arctis, if i put them on lab, will they still not gain lab exp?
Yeah that's fair. And honestly I have half of my guys on arctis even if they are sitting in lab since I change my active. Like I only a week or so ago finally pulled an SB out to help push rift or grind gmush.
Swapping lab people to elephant and others that you might want to mess w/ active (or outside for whatever) on arctis is pretty solid
I make my ES's "fighting" preset have the arctis link so that way my ES can stay linked to better things regardless of lab camping or mat farming
They do gain lab exp
They get xp if you manually put them in the lab.
How big of a difference is elephant? I've never had the chance to use it
i basically put every one of my chars on divinity, is that bad? I just entered w5
I swapped to it today. It's sexy as shit ngl. Getting random progress for refinery or printing is insane.
Every AFK claim gives prog in a random system: refinery, 3d print, cook, breeding, sailing, or gaming
That would be nice.
only 2 of them are useful i wouldnt allocate multiple chars to it
Wonder if elephant pulls more weight then harriep
It was also amazing for my sailing (and gaming a lil bit) before my bubble was built up, g.hampter on beanstalk, etc. etc.
Nah I'd keep harriep. You could always harriep + link to omniphau on ES and shove in lab
I use this currently. 6 in combat 2 lab 1 catching butter
Es pushing for eff logs at doggies
Assuming I'll have multi post ceramics
Yeah, at this point I want think I am done with Div for now, though there is the quest for 80 Div that I will want to do...eventually.
My ES is purrmep and harriep ATM xD
Tranqi will sort it. Tranqi got me to 115 and 121
nvm it got fixed
What level is Tranqi again?
Idk
I do hope 100k beanstalk will be 100% sailing for everyone
If you're pulling people of goat just throw them on TranQi
That'd be nice
40
...huh.
Well, now I have no real reason to keep folks on Goat...for now, at least. I'll eventually consider getting the God levels.
you get more damage
I'm half way I'll find out soon
Yeah this was the reason I dropped goat on everyone. I technically got bagur before I swapped but didn't need to.
I was already 50 for multitool and everyone was 40+ for tranqi. So was an easy switch "for now". Everyone will go back on goat duty for me when I strive for lab2100 at some point
Bubo can handle it while dealing with w6 or lava/eclipse skulls tbh
Even better since you got 2
Yeah, most of my lab levels are 94-97.
...how the hell did I end up checking this right when my Lab level is...
goat gives afk gains to everyone
Technically Elephant does as well :p
So basically I'm gonna want to keep one character on Goat at all times.
I guess I can keep my Bubo or ES2 on Goat.
Goat boosts your samples through the shared afk gain. Elephant does not. They arenโt โtechnicallyโ the same at all
Also goats stack on each other AFAIK, so having 1 vs 10 goats is different
I wish I knew this sooner. Glad y'all told me yesterday
One of the reasons why Doot is broken, among many - is that they get 10x goat for free for their sampling. Whereas non-dooters usually settle for only 7 goats/3 snake during sampling sessions
Wish we could get divinity resets(unlink) for gems tbh
wouldnt call it "broken", but doot def is nice
"broken" would be something like autoloot and sacred bundle
imho
Mmngh...then am I just meant to keep everyone on Goat forever? :/
maybe a difference of opinion, but doot is definitely broken for all the benefits it provides
autoloot/sacred bundle i would rate above that, so that's probably why you might think differently
I'll take doot over scared bundle any day
Lullaby Airways and Dharma Mesa
only reason i would say sacred bundle over doot is that everything is still doable without it, but sacred bundle (prior to summer event) allowed you to get to point in stamps that are literally unobtainable any other way
How much movement speed is effective for max afk gains?
minimum recommended is 270 to be at visual cap
Ah so for afk pushing(when sleeping) I should also have movement speed too?
MS is still used in afk calculations but its a little less direct and obscure. it will still calculate you "walking" to next mob to kill it. so the more the better, i am unsure if there's a minimum/maximum wrt breakpoints
But it should show in afk info right? So I can test it with the potions
it should but i've never tested it myself. it can get skewed slightly due to the effect of thigns like quick slap bubble, especially if you cross a MK threshold
specifically for afk? g.dumpling. or do you mean generally?
Generally? I'm pushing citrines (?) with my dk. I'm passing the 1.5 accuracy threshold but I'm unsure how to make it more effective
active push is more effective than afk pushing ๐ esp with DK on citringes -- that map was made for active DK
it can vary between classes. for instance, SB like utilizing 3-4 green pots, but i find diminshing returns on others. usually a combo of w4 green, w4 orange, g.dumplings, g.grilled cheese
Hence why I said when I'm sleeping. I can't active when sleeping
Ty!
Ah I didn't catch that part, myb.
ah if you are still pushign w5. whatever g.grilled cheese you can. and probably 2 green pots, 1 food, and either orange pots or exp pots
The moment I started active pushing a few weeks ago I skyrocketed my progress. So I understand why u said it tho!
What is this?
archer talent
its literally playing a different game
i rather have doot over every bundle
you cant use doot for shit without autoloot 
?
Ahh
like, what good does doot do for you, if you cant active?
coins still make you lag really quick
but regardless if you have doot you will most likely also have autoloot
other " op " bundles just dont compare to doot
yes, but that wasnt what you said here ^
i dont agree
could always just not active
autoloot is 5 quid doot is 400
i personally think autoloot>sacred bundle >>>explore bundle (i think its called)>>doot
how far are you into the game?
then you would actually be playing a different game
9.5k hours
divinities are one of the most important mechanics into the game having all those actives are >>> sacred and explorer
In seriousness, what would be considered a good amount of chars on Goat, even when out of Lab/not on Div, if onkg for the AFK gain boost.
because there are " free " mechanics in the game that do what sactred methods pack does
????
there is nothing that allows you to get crystallin 300 without sacred bundle?
talking before the event, and again now people cant get it anymore
but in a way, you are correct
its still an op pack just not as good as doot
prints would be better - afk gains better - damage better - portal pushing better - everything with doot is better lmao
the only really nice thing about doot is the omni procs and 6x prints
noone cares about damage, what are you on?
Do I have to change setup with bonus exp from skill when I visit Sailing map?
the 2x portal kills and death note
or the exp is same
and we have so much afk gain now, that the afk from doot isnt that big, and when you need it, you can just get it with the resets
if you still need those, then i guess i understand why you think doot is better 
have you reached the end of w6?
yeah
all eclipes sculls?
yeah
The ease of sampling is why I want doot
i guess for someone in end game who already did everything to do in the game doot is not as good lmao
exactly, i see doot more as a huge QoL now 
It's all I've ever seen it as xD
tbf, i didnt realise i was in w5-chat, so its also my fault lol
You're literally hating on AFK gains but saying "you can't play this game without autloot"! Doot AFK gains are huge before you are end game with everything stacked up
For real. I still got most my people only at 150%
even super late game you get like 80% afk gains from doot with goat minor link and snake active at all times
- the 6x prints all time
nope, im just saying we have gotten so many different forms afk gain increases lately, that it isnt as big of a boost as it used to be
80% still pretty massive unless you have 1000% afk gains
my active dk is 20% higher than that 
% wise maybe but all afk gains are big
Isn't it still like 10-15% of total afk gains at max
Double mine xD
so thats like 58% with all goats extive
Maybe by w7 I can work on god ranks
im just saying that you only really need goat when you sample, and when you need to sample, you just get goat on them...
even after sample everyone still connected to lab with hariep
88% would be a 50% afk claim increase for me that is massive
yeah... yall cooked if you trying to say doot isnt important l0l
reason its $300-400
i mean i just leave my last 3 chars in lab may as well have them on goat to garner points + exp
Heck at 10-15% total at end game is still a lot for afk claims
You gonna tell me when you push w7 you won't feel the lose of 10-15% of your total claim ?
Maybe even more since it's combat
and that is why you equip goat when you sample, but you dont need it all the time , i have said this already, how hard is it too understand 
I ain't talking sample. Im talking all game play
fighting afk gains are kinda mid
thank you 
Still the only option for portal pushing
Only can have 1 active
10-15% of almost 600% isnt notable really, yes
lol...
you'll likely get more kph with respawn chips
if you are afking while portal pushing
The topic was about how doot isn't godly cause you said you can't play without autoloot, so therefore the AFK gains ARE huge for fighting even stacked on top of every other benefit from doot. Lol goat is a small portion of the overall doot package.
This is a super silly convo
Opinions
its just cope because he doesnt have it
Closer to 15 in this case that's a lot
where is the level 4 dna gun
why is your class level so low 
Imagine if you lost 15% of your paycheck to taxs additional next week
Pushing does that
Haven't gotten to it yet
7th character 
its not 15% tho.... 15% of 600% is 2,5%
Smh
why is your mining 104 and fishing only 100? lol hope your vman is ahead of the game there!
i would be happy if i only paid 2,5% in taxes 
There lvl 80 at best
Your vman needs to be #1 in the w1-3 skills 
Working on it
lol
Current set up
Except Construction and Alchemy
how do i get this
Second island in Sailing
sailing
does not mean it should be neglected
True. That was just a given I assumed
second gives this one
Xayayah, you making my eyes go crazy
@teal lynx I am not them
Have you seen the skill lvl of tht guy!??
That's truly not me
Idk why they took my Identity
Even worse @_@ an imposter!!
weird lol
I'm not even certain if Left Hand affects Alchemy to an appreciable degree, but I do know that Bubo levels it faster even if I'm consistent with Crystal Countdown and Skill XP setup.
I just use Sharing Some Smarts and call it a compromise
reverse flash ahh moment
I didn't realize they actually flipped the pfp too 
Well 180 degrees rotated actually ๐ฆ not flipped 
pog ๐
got the ||second|| best one 
Good vman stats!?
you;'re doing it all backwards. Supposed to show vman's skill stats
giv me a sec
Not my best work since it's the last character, resources are scarce
my dmg.
i hate this dmg week
never again i would want a week where people vote on dmg
well lucky for you its not damage week and its summoning
Do you have nature traps on them?
Your tools are fine. But he should be #1 on his skills 
atleast i still have my billion dmg
Ok no excuse
I CHANGED TABS
and it got to 1.1B
Nope I wanna get meaty traps for all my characters
World 5
I guess thts my next priority
Vman should always have nature traps so they level up. That will increase the damage and critter/soul gains from species epoch
Doesn't everyone want 1 nature placed by vman ?
trial doesn't mean the equipped trap. he means the kind of traps used when setting
So I should focus on exp for vman
30hr traps
ayyy, first starfire weapon acquired ๐
That's a common strategy. It's fine but I personally prefer focusing on one thing at a time but that's just me. Vman should always be going for xp however
That's what I'm doing in a nut shell xD
Few more hours of wurms and I can push full Kruk on everyone. Hopefully before next week's reset I can sling 3 marble sets and do another sample and reach 85 on my skilling bubbles
You gotta hit the gym, humans arenโt supposed to fit in a nut shell
Any one else noticed tht the first guy to reach lvl 600 also just reached lvl 1000
yeah, he posted it on reddit the other day
I use the banister for L sits and pull ups xD do pistol squats and biking for legs and Archer push ups for chests
Silk and lotus seems to be the way till pearls next floor
Hmmm alright guess you gotta eat more then
I actually do
Then how are you able to fit in a nutshell
All I ate yesterday was a green onion sour cream and Jalapeno corn chip dip. And 8 progies. The day before that was a massive shakshuka
Living the life
I love cooking \ o). Gonna make a potato, carrot, red bell pepper, green onion curry and a loaf of bread later today
Fortune cookies
I am bais to check out speed
I been over focused on it
what is the best place to farm this? from w1 to w6
Oj bay
However your better off lvling it via mob loot collection and w3 statues
just whenever ur farming mob mats/cards
if u rrlly want go gmush
What's not good about it?
mid-late game yes
Active gmush is awful
why gmush
No if at all xD. It should never be an option
If that's the last option at 100k or even 100m wormhole just lab the dude
@solar seal you gonna run up hh this week?
Should I attempt to candy for dice obols? I'm getting desperate here.
No active is much better
Whatโs your dr
I just finished my obal farming and it wasnโt too bad
I think I began around 6x, filled up silver pop obols, had around 9x, then farmed double six obols
go farm efaunt he also drops them
Are you farming pots at dk?
yep
I was having too trash dr obols cuz I had too much of them and not enough fragments
Missing 1 hex and 4 sparkle
And your bottleneck is the square dr obols? Not fragments?
So far yeah.
Idk but whatever it is, it's too slow for my liking.
Obol farming is just slow in general
Iโve been farming it for a couple weeks I think
Although I was doing other stuff too, not just obol farming
brazilian too??
Yea 
i feel your pain
Got my first endercaptain with 2x 65% loot but i have no clue if loot is any good
its good until you have all ender captains then youd prob eventually replace it
For artifact?
end cap always better
Has anyone else had an issue with the device endeavour quest? I have equipped the necklace, got the wings, but the quest is 0/1 for each
its spd-spd early
then loot-loot mid to end game
snelbie in pets UNLOCKED baby WOOOOOOOOOO
gz
Good to know thanks :)
I would gladly take 2x 65% loot lol. Isn't that al lyou're farming by the time you reach endercaptains anyways? Just mats for bubbles and to trade in for gold?
w?
i didnt even know you could do the picnic quest on every single character
ive been missing out on gems
finally a decent nugget!
8 more artifact's to go !!! I'm so happy that I'm so close to be done
I'm down to 3 artifacts left
Congratulations that's amazing now you can grinding gaming even more
on red B bits, still a ways to go
True the snail have to help you with that
isnt the scaled efff from nobisect like complete ass
I still dont have al sov artifacts
And I am very passive with bubbels๐
just got 17 snail yesterday
I don't even have endercaptains (and my speed is still miserable so last 2 islands are not 2hr even for my best boats but the rest are easy) but have +130% loot per level on top of ender's passive is huge. I'd be able to farm mats so much better lol.
it's inverse, so good at lower levels. Helps when you want to candy those early levels to hit passive cards and then total 500 for +5% eff ๐
Well if i could give it to you i would
You should buy it just for the passive buff
ok but like after level 50 in every skill its just bad and gets outclassed by everything else
wow, I just swapped my sneaking characters around for boosters and one of my characters got 22 levels in 5 hours afk, not bad
I guess not sleeping on the floor all the time helps
for snail do i actually have to wait for mail or i can use chem plants
it's purely waiting ๐ฆ
wait
good news is you don't use encouragement until like lvl 12 or something lol
I would love a W6/7 boost to make log and chems affect snail...
Tbh I wish log game just went faster... and I'm not even close to isntant gaming
Just makes chem trains take way too long when trying to just get more nuggies
farming these cards now @nova lynx
lfggggggggg
I still have base book ๐ฆ not even ancient yet
damn you're really putting in work on those ruby cards.
You got mister brightside 4* yet even?
Prob faster DR gain than rubying mr Giga Chad but he is CDR
So that's fair to do it first lol.
Doing frog before snelbie/mustache?
eld fury is suc ha low low %
fury i got pretty fast
Oh whoops i meant sov fury
yeah, i sent everyone to fury lol, pray for me
I'd go camp eld fury
Now you just need the rest and lvl them up one more time so they get green
yes, im aware of how artifacts work lol
Yeah my ES will go do active duty whenever I'm at rift 56. For now my DK is taking over the active reigns on some wurms then clammies
For what
kruk id assume
Ohh
Starting to see 5 figure nugs consistently
just hoping I get a big upgrade and not like 1% upgrade lol
Yeah equinox is the only way lol
I still had a HUGE ceiling I could've hit, but that didn't happen
i need to do this and i get it
what else is blocking you? IDK if we can do that w/o peapod or trasher or w/e
level 60 ref lmao

i have trasher
and now my nuggy rolls are back to trash lol
oh dang. well you can possibly do it then?
My nugget range is form 114k-118 m right now
what's your nugget rn?
Do it with looter rattler refiller burger
Oh that will get you there?
@frank prairie ^
Ya it should
Do it on BM though
With the talent up, just in case rng
Lab is up to 2035
I might throw everyone back in it to finish the final push to 2100
W/ star sign and what not. I'll do it after my chem trains are gone
I meant what is your current gaming nugget's value
might as well say 0-Inf
Let's trade?
Sure it's a deal
You'll basically get a free upgrade after you have my tiny nug lol
Hehe that's why I would do it
Is looter just supposed to heal/eggshell/RNG carry this in the later rounds I suppose after enough refiller stacks happen? This is exactly what is happening. Got nervous until a few badumdum's hit to make looter go brr faster. Seems to be working well 
I have the 10k golden coupons now, so wht do i do now!? 
Use a stack of 10k exactly and pray it's a rare gold food you need

Now wht?
Yo let's go!
Rip ๐ฆ drop the stack of 10kon the beanstalk right of emporium tower if you don't already ahve it
Steak dinner time, nice
Welp..
Yeah nomwich is the worst one you can get
RIP in pepperoni pieces. Borger got no heals after wave 95 so they all just died and looter hit literally nothing.
HERE WE GO AGAIN.
does gold artifact make printer go above 90%?
True the sandwich is the easiest to fram
It cap at 90
Should I combine all my golden grilled cheese for all my characters then bean stack them?
it doesnt have to do with sample rate, that is always capped at 90% rn. it does help output tho and you'll end up printing way more mats per hour
Yes
I gold stack on beanstalk as soon as I possibly can
I...might want to see about getting a Beanstalk stack of those sandwiches soon. Might pull some of the lads off the lab for the grind.
What is your lab lvl
Golden grilled cheese, golden hampters are super useful and doable byjust CCing wurms long enough (or throwing DK there). You'll start building your w5 statue pile for onyx too while there ๐
Just use dk Activ
See this.
My DK doesn't have 1/50 Crystal Mob chances, choco chip or 10x Drop Rate, tho.
....actually not sure about the Crystal Mob rates, will have to check that.
Fram world one mobs
Id say just wait a month longer for choco chip before you consider beanstacking
Youll have higher drop rate, and possible crystal chance
I was gonna say something regarding Choco Chip, but I will refrain.
Man i cannot wait till i get choco chip
RNG didn't let me win 3x in a row @strong shale ๐ฆ will try again tomorrow I guess.
25-40k so didn't think they were low really. Waiting for my 12th egg to turn gold so I can work on unlocking more pets
might have overdone my bonejoepickles on mush... this will take a while
How many bone pickle do you have
287
Yeah that's a lot lol
Literally what I'm doing now xD can't wait to get those 100ks
I need to finish lab 2100 so my Bubo can go back to CC and to get me some goldem hampters
I have 240 it takes me 8 hits on world 6 mini boss
So yes you have a little bit much
Yes I have the wrong everything else equipped.
Oof 100k will not get me to 100% till I cross 520% gold food bonus
Apart from 4*'ing Poop, though, not sure how else to improve Crystal Mob odds.
yeah, I forgot to drop some bonejoes in storage, as my DK only has 800T damage
As I am assuming there is no way to increase the crystal mob talent cap.
But yeah, I don't see how I can improve it much more.
How's your stamp ? Close to ruby cards ?
I don't have Ruby Cards unlocked.
Definitely wanna 4* demon and poop and 5* when you get ruby
Biggest buff is probably getting c.chiz to 4* (5* if unlocked), THIS BUFFS ALL SHRINES
and cards 4* each will be 125% w/o doublers
What he is low on damaged I think mine do 6QQ damage are you doing your alchemy
Well, for starters...
I'm not quite at hourly clicks on most prints for alchemy bubbles, but I am slowly getting them where they should be, very slowly. Using all my atom upgrades every day and letting NBLB do it's thing in the mean time
However!
Today, in a whim, I used the chip gacha.
And got the "last card slot effects doubled" chip.
I equipped it and that alone got me to 1/60 crystal mob odds.
still don't have this one
gotta abuse guilded stamp for that one
or these
Seems that you doing okay 800 t is also high that go up fast then you get everything in summoning and sailing
I should probably dedicate a day or two just pushing stamps, tbh.
As for C.Chizoar, it's still only 1*.
I actually already finished all summoning battles. Missing steak and first two lanterns for all Sov.
it goes really quickly, though
It requires me to be lucky, though.
can you not one shot it on VW with card drop cards equipped?
I can.
80 green stacks now @grand scarab
It doesn't change the fact I still need to be lucky.
like, I have 58 Cchiz cards total and it is 5 star
Most coins I ever had
I should really get my chiz cards before he fixes this bug

man i'm finally getting around to pushing worship and now my thing is bugged and i can't upgrade anymore
doesn't let me click on towers
hide dmg
still didn't work
i can place new towers, or delete them, but i can't upgrade smdh. i'm not lagging either
Oh I only need one lanterns but I need seven other artifac my rng was really bad
I got super lucky with sov Tusk as my very first sov artifact on my first batch of chests after unlocking sov
first 5 islands went by in a flash
slowed down considerably after that
except I got winz sov super early
Can't wait to start on those
๐ฆ
Mind you I don't have last island yet. Hoping onyx statues for sailing gets me there im at 73m speed on one ship 68 on another
you got time in a bit to run w2 dungeon for equionix?
Soon
Isn't that solo only ?
atm i dont :[ its easier solo bc w2 can crash in party
i seee gotta go look it up then
Oh I was fast the the first once but then I got to the one to max my book's out it wouldn't pop I did over 1000 chest in a day and it wouldn't and the day after I got it I get 3 lanterns to sov
you can leave party right before the end, and still get the completion like w1 dungeon
That's a bug and a half nice lava
I also got silly lucky with Fury
Finally got the bear guy and all are on him but my bubo who is in lab for exp atm should I focus on getting green stacks and other things fleshed out before attempting to even try w5 areas?
@strong shale main now
Your xp is lacking
My Voidwalker by after doing an speedrun has now the same maps as my main Is that a normal thing?
yes
That crazy-
W6 justifies this
Ok thanks, I need to fight the boss but still cannot so far only does 15M so far
Vman is your support to the extreme. He ain't got time to be clearing portals xD
might have got way too drunk and bought gems + ordered fast food at 6am ๐คฃ
Do you let nblb take it? I canโt even imagine how long it will take me to accumulate that much salt
You have to
yes
Try to use your atoms and printer to force it to be hit each day
you get it as your lowest so it always gets hit, and then disconnect vial doubler + on the opposite class to atom it asap
Yeah thatโs what I do anyway
Finally got the bear guy and all are on him but my bubo who is in lab for exp atm should I focus on getting green stacks and other things fleshed out before attempting to even try w5 areas?
True hes called voidwalker after all XD
Wait why do you disconnect vial doubler?
so it goes higher

to hit the 100m atom range
What does
Bro gets the bottom right
Omg I need to be doing that
I donโt know nothing about atoms
I can't believe I never thought about that xD
to atom bubbles, the material cost has to hit 100m
Oh ok that makes sense
I'm at 98m cost on ironfish this means I can atom it tomorrow \ o/
That saves me so much time
Huge ty
also got another fighting afk, trophy double and keychain doubler
All good stuff
Damn 4 more upgrades and Imma have to upgrade my damage equinox
If it caps at 100 mil, wouldnโt that mean you will lose the ability to atom if you make it even 1% cheaper?
anybody got the bonejoe calculator link handy?
i got spares if you need em
this is on a non-warrior with vial off?
So if nblb takes a cost reduction bubble, you would have to upgrade every single previously atomable bubble again with mats?
on the off chance yes
yeah, but the bubble scales so slow
yes, but it shouldn't, atoms make it go up to the 1b cap
it has happened to me
Ohhh ok
yes, on paper it can happen, but if you atom it until it needs 1B it shouldn't
Finally got everyone on royal traps but got distracted crafting stupid stuff for stamps. Nice 5mins activity turned into 1hr 
worth
Some good efficiency stuff in there and then a lot of combat stamps
Got like 8 tiers of upgrades on materials carry stamp 
Who knew I could hold 48 mat bags now lol
did it with afk gains prayer off and backpack space prayer on vman ?
I didn't do those upgrades unless it was very obvious. I just did the ones where its unstackable goods.
how the fuck i wake up this guys
clear all the plants
I jsut unlocked zerg and ruck sack, so when I get ruck sack pumped up and Vman's carry caps fixed I will be doing a proper stamp rush
love u
WAIT, that means zerg can boost my rift gains
thx for the reminder lol
\ o/
fibers hella good in rift as well
it carried me on the last 15
๐ thx homie never even considerd fibers cause I don't have MK (although this is prob the best time). SB just went 156k kph -> 204k with zerg + fibers (what I could lvl it to anyways)
I will be a sneaking master sooner than I thought 
huge increase
i had everyone at 144k kph with both those when i did it saved so much time
it didnt get any harder so i just stayed
Damn fibers actually knocks my BB down in kph. prob cause his dmg is real bad
o wow
Zerg alone though ~56k -> 88k kph
bb weird xD back to the kitchen
Nah he's helping enough still
i cant wait till i sample so i can print this again
yeah hes still 10% of the kph in 10 hours
ES 88k -> 132k with both prayers. HUGE gains. Went from an overall of roughly a lil over 300k kph between all 3 to now closer to 420k kph
My BB def already has his zow+chow there, he's been helping the last 2 days in rift.
nice so you mite finish today xD
i got chow early on when he had mk then removed him
ill do super post eclipse stuff
Nah I won't be done. But I will finish rift 52 before I go to bed which means I might be able to start rift 55 before bed tomorrow
well that freaking sucked, I accidentally went in the portal after summoning W6 mini bosses 
Which would mean sneaking mastery on Wednesday which is way faster than I anticipated (was looking at like... Fri/Sat or something?)
damn thats hella quick then
oooof
I did this about 5 times when I first was trying w4 colo with not that many tix available... lol the portals are doom
did this once
need that
I was really trying to min/max cause the first time my DK was good enough to clear it.. Kept hitting w to go up the rope ๐ did it a handful of times at kruk too
go do your TDs.
what TD is that prayer from
AFK (zerg) is 121 goblin
i dont think i can get there
Rucksack is from acorn land
only level 30 poison
Do you have slow wiz?
slow roast is what will carry your dmg tbh.
My poison was 39 when I did the early TDs
rucksack comes from acorn assault wave 111. It gave me prayers just for popping the waves, not beating them (not like MSA where it snapshots the last wave you cleared fully)
Yeah I followed pancake's end gmae guides from the master guidelist and just tried to follow the setups as close as I could. Obviously cna't buy EVERY party or kraken cause shit costs too much for us with non-90 towers.
ForGoblin you'd have to win 120, then spam 121-130. For Acorn you'd have to win 110, spam 111-120
err whoops sorry rucksack is the carry cap not the prayer you want. You want fibers of absence which is just lvl21 frosty lol
should i get ancient blue first or get red first?
Looks like I did actually beat 130 on Goblin. But only have 110 acorn registered in MSA and I did get rucksack (lvl111 required) unlocked
grabbing red will boost sampling if you're going ot resample soon/ASAP. If not, can go for blue now.
unlock base relic first before ancients since base relics are good and easier to get
Speaking of td, how should I incorporate voidinator into this
Are you trying to only push to 70 or beyond that?
IDK how you'd get void to be super useful in that setup tbh
Like you can place it at the front (left top side). Or honestly place it in front of frosty 8 and hope krakens can push any missed mobs back to there
If you place it in front of everything, it'll get stunned a bunch and prob won't suck all the colors out
I mean obviously higher would be better, but my towers are on,y at the levels in the top left
This is the "end game" guide 'setup phase' and you just hope krakens pin them in the poison pool on the bottom tier. My void in this setup def wasn't popping often enough to suck all colors out though
I think mostly because it cost too much to setup towers and I couldn't buff party enough (and void wasn't high enough for faster speed)
So if you wanna try the lv70 guide w/ a void, I guess now I'd suggest throwing it in front of party
Thatโs sounds good thanks
I do believe that's why tower #14 is there though to cover what void won't on wave 50
I believe wave 50 is the "heal others" bosses that'll just sit there and outheal anything (unless you have slow roast) so void will save ya there (or that kraken will split them I guess)
what does void acuatlly do
Void removes color (buffs) of mobs it hits
Hi Tee
Some buffs let mobs teleport when they get hit, some stun towers, some heal others, etc. etc.
ohhhh
ok thanks
What up Reap
Nothing much just waiting

for what?

I have to go to the doctors to get my shoulder checked out
btw doesn't really matter where krakens hold mobs since poison can also hit the pushed mobs (that go way back) and the result is the same

Pancake I was doing w4 td and I used the guide at wave 90 they swarmed the top and I lost
I know position doesn't super matter as long as poison can hit. I was more so stating that this is your guide for high MSA but my towers are obviously nowhere near that lvl soooo I had some difficulties ๐
kraken didn't hold?
Nah I had like 4 tho
start from the defense then, it's ok even with 1 poison at the start
slow roast will do the job, if you have it
I do
Quick q since you're here Pancake. Is there some external factor to reduce tower cost (building new ones)? Or is it purely just leveling each tower via construction?
Damn. Is cannoli that OP then in keeping points avail to build out some of your end-game guides?
Like my party is 83%,krak/poison are (sadly) only like 65%, but i.e. the w4 guide after if I go bottom to top on building order, I will never get through all the defensive setup cause towers are like 150k+ each for new ones lol
well with 140% i get 2.4x more points just from that (2.9x total if we count 50% salt lick)
Yeah that seems nice 
95% is a lot different from anything less
95% means you only have 5% of the original price
I agree it's still a huge scale. (5% value vs 35% value)
So with 95% reductions are you basically able to drop the entire setup really early on?
well i have like 1.9k starting points
I drop about 60-79% right away
I typically will get stuck on the last 3-4 krakens and have everything else up. Tho I don't get far enough where they matter
i can place this with my starting points
๐ฎ there's a lot more starting points for me to go scoop up then.
How do I upload my idleon efficency so I can ask what I should focus on in order??
Have you heard of idle review? It does just that
I can drop probably like 50-60% while wave 1-10 are rolling through. But then I'm pretty hardstuck around 80% of the suggested stuff.
@proud arch no I haven't but willing to try it
And usually it's me leaving krakens out at the end ๐ฆ but I've only tried TD once each since I've had 'decent' levels.
Upload/update from there
79 tabs open..
well i'm kinda carried by cons+atom, because this is my base without slow roast, lvling or boosts
Yeah I don't wanna close a lot of stuff
so i can place my towers without even upgrading them and then upgrade
Yeah for sure I know cons+atom will carry TD to your level of the game. But yeah seems like I just need to wait for some more loving to happen on my towers. I just didn't know if there was some external factor outside of construction I was missing (obviously starting pts + cannoli are really helpful)
well obv also the fact that up to 10 lvls it's basically free
so 95% is very important
Lol I didn't even see that your upgrade was literally 0 pts ๐ญ
like this is at 15, still pretty free
Yeah that's real free considering mine I believe is ~4216 (this was poison or something) ~2200 iirc
Ok that makes way more sense to me. So hitting 95% reduction on towers via construction is a really good breaking point then. And should be a nice indicator when to shuffle between the trimmed slots.
well you can do big waves as soon as you get to 95% on the important towers
then you need a lot of atoms for the last waves
What would you consider big waves? Like 150? 170? I imagine atoms are needed to pull off your ~200s
you can get 200 w1 with like 300 atom with enough slow roast
obv for 200 w3 it's almost 1000 atom needed
but well, i think you can get some nice waves early
btw, never stop at 120 or 150 or 180, because the next 10 waves are easier (so you waste bigger wave)
I mean I just hit 100/110 on everything (w1 - 130) (except w5 some teleporter glitched and wrecked my tower so I stopped) which were pretty big jumps for me lol. Just wasn't sure how big of a jump I'd expect just hitting the 95% threshold vs. being higher than that cutoff level and reaping the benefits from the atoms
Good to know when I trek into TDs in the future.
woah its the one and only pancake 
We are among a god 


The syrup senses were tingling when I shared his TD photo
Syrup senses 
my senses even reached russian chat when someone shared my board
thats some powerful syrup senses
Time to steal all materials from in game storage of @cyan mantle now
Time to steal all materials from in game storage of @dreamy merlin now
Nah get 20b damage and then you can
Hey guys, about to finish 100k on my BB for every Mob from W1-W3. Should I keep pushing Deathnote with him for Vman Quest and Cooking Boost or should I level Cooking/Lab/Divinity for now? My Maestro is currently farming to reach Rank 1 in all W1-W3 skills and only Lv 120 so starting the quest will still be a while

Time to steal all materials from in game storage of @nova lynx now
Got 3 Divinities and did not push W5 atm
if you gonna candy deathnote for vman do it with bb
I got time, cant use my precious candy
but candy is time
i didn't even show my items this time
if you not gonna candy just use multiple peeple for deathnote, bb can just do some div if you need more gods
Only got so much ๐ฆ
its not like you will never get more
Where could you see total time for 20 library books? Can't seem to find it on IE/IT. (not time left until 20 books)
But why would I candy if theres no urgency at this point?
pretty sure it and ie do
IT bottom of the page
IE bottom left of main page
IT shows your 0-20 time, IE only shows "til 20" time
Okay, I got C.Chizoar card to 3*.
ah ffs, it was bottom right on IT
Took me about 50 times looking for it to remember where it's at now tbh
got moai head and maneki kat artifacts today, first ones 
1/57 Crystal Monster odds.
I can probably get my Poop card to 4* easily enough, only need 40 more cards.
you have 1/57 without poop? how
Yeah with only 4* c.chiz and 3* poop I am impressed and jelly 
I'm 1/58 with 5* c.chiz (poop/genie are only 4star)
I think I'm kinda bricked waiting on another gilded stamp or something...
shrines are such ass to level
Thereโs a po that helps with crystal spawn?
the lootcrate (bottom right, first page)
nah you ain't bricked. Under 1/100 is the suggestion (but also choco is suggested so ๐คท ). I just had 1/62 when I started
Iโm gonna need to redeem all my pens soon
suggested for what? I don't even know what I want better crystal odds for yet but I've seen people taking it to 1/9 or 1/12. 
for fucking obols would surely be nice
Prob onyx
Stand down ladies
for statue farming.
ah
aka obol farming for you ๐ฆ
FUCK
both doublers and 5* poop/demon/c.chiz?
I need better c chiz badly
only 1 doubler, 4 star c chiz
Iโm 1 in 94
If you use DK to get your slushy kills you'll have enough kills to 5s c.chiz after 2 miniboss kills (1 week timer)
RNGesus can we get dr obols?
We have dr obols at home.
dr obols at home:
Nvm my chaotic chiz is gold
at least you got frags now? lol

seems like you still need a better one then
dang the doublers are more impressive than I expected I guess. ๐ฎ Excited to get them
Genuinely almost tempted to filter sands and just let it active over night...
Trinity of bullshit + 1 on personal
whats wrong with that
This is actually what you do for obols (and when doing w2 statue farm)
Thatโs what I do
You'll filter bean and all the crap w1 drops when you start farming w1 statues too
What
What does c chiz give
Ye 300 keys ain't enough
Would rather not have the jet engine from my gaming laptop run at night lmao + it's good to not keep it turned on for days on end.
Oh yeah that one
It took me 500 keys from silver to plat
300 keys should surely take you from gold to plat if you do on vman and have any DR lol
Yo teegardin
I did it today. Went from 500 keys to 300.
I finally lost my sanity and candied like 1k power statues to get onyx
Hey, at least it is done man
First of all fuck vman second of all my max dr is on dk at 10.32
Some runs drop nothing, others drop 3 cards at once.
why would you not run bosses on vman
Upgraded my sbs gear to divine, ans his damage 10x immediately after a statue montage lmao
Why fuck vman? At this point he sould be able to 1 shot bosses. And not running vman on bosses when trying to get drops (and esp. cards) is literally just trying to make the game harder for you
Thatโs even lower than me
Fuck. Yeah. ๐
because he is vman
Ur getting 3 cards per run?
Not as a baseline, God no. Just gave an example that it had rather inconsistent drops.
I love my Vman. He makes everyone stronk and he is out working in the fields and mines every day while the rest of my family sleeps in their tubes.
I mean yeah
Scarf drops were so insane I finally decided to filter the thing I once craved for
He also goes and beats up the baddie bosses.
I have like 5 backup scarfs just chilling on my vman
Got like 4 scarves out of it as well. Can't complain.
You'll need them for The Divine Scarf 
When I'm getting like 1 scarf every 15 keys I need to filter it
Also these but their lifespan is only for as long as it would take me to get another... uh... 32 dice obols. Jesus Christ I never actually did the math... this is more bleak than expected.
doesnt take all that long if you have choco
They become the sacrifices so you can merge your 32 dice obols lol
Like 25 frags or whatever they give is nice
Only you have choco man 
I was gonna talk mad shit just because i'm frustrated with the obol drops but you're lucky I like you.
Yeah no shit it's easy if you have choco. Div is also easy if you have doot. Ain't nobody rich enough for that. 

hey so pong? is it a skippable import or important? what does it actually do
@peak verge might be worth trying some daily boss runs on Efaunt. I had somedecent luck getting dice obols to drop after I did all my terrible dice farming and was just getting cards
7.42x Dr on vman 
I just did earlier. It was ass. โค๏ธ

Tee
how is your Vman like 2.7x DR less than your DK? Move the obols over to Vman
how the fuck your vman have 7x dr lmao
Oh yeah
You can have my spares
You play pong. Score go up, number go up. Most people go for 25k for the achiev and likely never touch it again.
Move all your P2W shit if you got any that's giving your DK drop rate
oh shit aight
put one on your ES as well. But damn you got a lot of chips
Es is pushing portals ATM xD
Bro got the whole ass bakery.
Jesus. And I see your SB is destroying those gmush I can only assume with all that stacked MK per tier
I went hard during w4 ๐
That SB is the weaker of the 2 >>
Should I even attempt to get king doot or is it too late and I might not be able to? Idk if the pets are gonna rotate soon and idk if it's worth using money
they ain't rotating. doot is the best thing you can ever pull in this game
nobody knows and no its not worth
Let's never rotate and doots worth it. Could be $400 bucks tho
8.69x with obols
But don't put $50 in and expect to get it. Know how much you need to drop for pity doot if you want the guarantee
I have 2
Send IE. Whatcha doing wrong? ๐ฆ My DK has better gear so he beats my Vman but not by much
You have the star talent for weekly boss DR% raised on Vman as well?
I do need to try and push gmush. Gonna try doing some candy for PVC I want shimmeron asap
@proud arch so if I can spare 20 dollars or so here and there I should try out?
Oh shit I need that too
You probably need to put your DR cards on as well as the BOSS cardset
Yeah. Just make sure you got the important packages first
dont feel like you need to buy anything lol
take this offyou don't need anymore
bro you have it at 92 ๐ญ that's os much DR on the easy 5-skull weeks
@proud arch what r those? I have the sacred oaths or w.e BTW the one for bubble lvls per day
Island explore and the xmas one
You need to 4 star stache and snelbie. If you have a cardifier, blow it on emperor, and honestly worth dropping a rubifier.
go finish those rn
How do you get this
I just unlocked chem plant what is the best way to use them to get the most bits
@proud arch how do I see if I have or not?? I have e bought a few when I felt I could spare a bit
Max the star talent cardiovascular and BOOK the vman talent
buy it with trophies from weekly rotation

stack trophies for october, we'll have to roll again. 
@cyan mantle no wonder you hate Vman, you've neglected the poor bastard to death.
You've booked only like 4 of his talents 
Do you got a name plate with a palm tree on it ? Or xmas food for speed/ blue afk gain hats ? Or check your purchase history
No 
Okay, Poop card 4*'d.
i have 5% survivability on suggmas 
Food
Demon Genie will take...longer to 4* as I still need 286 cards.
Gang activity for the last goon. It's so ass. โค๏ธ
thats 5% with food and a health pot
And yes, I will grind those cards out.
5% with dementia with w4 stones
better level fmj
Reaper if you book talent 1 of tab 4 your speedrun can go SO much longer. Also booking talent 2 and 3 will let you prog portals so much further (and get way better sampling).
These 3 from tab 2 need to be loved for your fighting spec (curse of mr looty booty tbh can drop if you need the dmg).
Do you accidentally have the fight afk star sign equipped?
btw 5% survivability with a lvl 106 ES
can you active? If this isn't your first char attempting suggmas I bet you will be fine and can level while doing active.
1/55 Crystal odds on my DK.
equip food
Ok
@proud arch I got one nameplate with a palm tree and a shell and I have some Xmas skiling food from an event tho I think
Ok gotta run for a bit but @cyan mantle you can boost up that Vman a lot. You have actually just neglected him some which is fine, but might be worth prioritizing him for books for a while. So much potential missing on him 
If I can 4* Demon Genie card, I...am not sure if that will take me over the Mythical 1/50 threshold.
no way am i gonna active grind xp on an ES that gets 3 shotted, ill have him go to w4 and level up more
Did you level the hp talent and hp star talent. Also mana is life
Then yeah you got both those are the important ones after scared. Go ham on doot and clean up any packages you like they are typically the best gem to $ ratio
If your ES is for the most part 1 shotting everything, he won't die with hemogoblin. And he'll level way faster than AFK
Activate mana is life
If you have the damage to kill, being one shot isn't a problem.
Wurms would like that talk xD
@proud arch mk I know I dkt have the ramsay hat one is it worth? Or go for don't first? Gonna do just one purchase
what the fuck my highest dmg is 41 mil
Wurms can pipe down as well. The wurm crystals however... yeah, those mfs love to misbehave on my hp bar.
This talent carries ES's through thick and thin
Okay tysm tee
that pack sucks imo
when did it get so high
If you need the gems.
The dutchie was passed to the left hand side
anyways i appreciate the tips guys, but i just think ill need to give him the final piece of dementia and maybe give him 2 health pots and 2 foods
that's... pretty adequate for W5 boss, and you just entered W5 somehow.
g'luck card hunting. Vman will be your goto boss killer and boss card collector soon enough
I had like 5mil damage when I startef w5 but 100% survival on my ES
i think i did it earlier on my lvl 106 ES while fighitng a giant suggma i spawned
It sounds like you didn't invest in hp talents
@proud arch no I might not have all the S tier purchases but I have alot of them and I don't mind doing a daily run for some here or there.
if you dont have food/pots equipped thats why you arent surviving
because it's an ES that im having the problem with, and he's underleveled compared to my lvl 170 dK

You should also consider heading towards void/chiz armor now that you're in W5.
Did you take the hp talents and star talents? That's a massive amount of flat hp
Giant suggma bal-
im BROKE
, i can barely afford dementia lol
i pushed through all of w4 using amarok
Why are you avoiding answering the hp question 
If that's the case, then pushing W5 should't be your main concern.
because i did answer it, i didnt invest in hp talents because he's a mage
lol
lmao even

i just want to do it because i want to see how far i can go
Well so far you can go up to the first map. 
youre just wasting your own time lol, just go fix a few things and itll be way faster...
i plan to settle and properly level up all my characters to get my 9th, which ill make a journeyman
Just get the hp talents
i unlocked the maccie's on my DK, and he has 100% survivability with nothing on, i think ill be able to get him to the 3rd or 4th map
gl
ES survives primarily via "mana is life" but if it ends up soaking like 60% out of lord knows how much damage you're taking, you'll run dry on mana and inevitably die bc you can't do damage either anymore. Having at least 6k hp or so will help mitigate some hits.
pumped my survivability to 14% with adding a health pot and upgrading "ubercharged heart"
do you have food equpped...?
I'm equally scared and morbidly curious to ask for your IE profile.
i have 4k hp
let me fetch it rq
update it first
this should be interesting
put on your full combat gear and everything on ES
i corrected my cards
Time to steal all materials from in game storage of @grand scarab now
oh my god i'm fucking stupid
Cards shouldn't be all that either at this point.
it became 67% survivability after changing my cards
Def from equipment and the such?
Something is still very wrong if you have to use those at this point in the game.
๐
Fr
yeah lol
ill wait for it to update to the current time to send it
idleon toolbox lowkey better ngl
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I will rephrase. Regardless of the state of your account, there should be no reason to get borderline one shot in the first map of W5, even without cards.
lol
i did the impossible
lol...
You must've overlooked something. There's people pushing W5 with amarok armor and just w5 stones.
im cracked out of my mind
how bad is your armor? 
this gotta be a troll lol
dementia with w4 stones
even with dem and w4 stones you should be fine
did you guys verify star signs?
i would be contemplating my life instead of trolling ngl
I asked him about accidentally having the fight afk gain % equipped but no answer.
asked about food also, no answer lol
you using this or smth?
i use the chopping and dr ones because im too lazy to keep swapping them out each time i want to do something
rofl
i dont even have that unlocked
its a common culprit, why i ask
you got a lot to work on lol
Send IE or something.
i can see why
was waiting for it to update
what character you using again?
level your stamps
Number really do go up.
It was small additions all along.
8th
He's trying to make ES work.
das the name of the game. incremental gains ๐ช
thats quite the strange name
what was i on when i chose that name
don't look at my second dk
use better food
What's your total hp again?

