lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[grand scarab]

nope

just click on your root skill when you need it

[pastel kayak]

Should I move towers to world 3 town?

[frank prairie]

I got too ditracted with monkey game and i forgot my 300 runs

cooked time to stay up till 2 lmao

the lotus luck be good fr @grand scarab

[proud arch]

Time to prep for a sampling run \ o/ wonder how close I can get my oak to 1b

For equinox Is it a raw 1b or can it be a purrmep 1b?

[frank prairie]

raw

[proud arch]

Darn xD Imma be a bit off then. I'm not sure I've gone up 4x in anything but my vmans print

[frank prairie]

I prob need to do samples in the morning

[proud arch]

Just gotta get 3 boss kills then sample this time 🤣

[frank prairie]

need to use my unlinks

[proud arch]

Same. I reset in 4 hours figured now's the time to unlink and I can finish prior

Worst case I get a few days divinity on everyone

[obsidian briar]

Hello gays how do I increase liquid regen speed

[proud arch]

Drippy stamp, people on liquid cauldrons. Fomo dragon cauldrons. W1 bubblers (I think) Cranium cooking.

Probably more

[frigid swift]

first blue 🙂

[frank prairie]

need to get everyone lotus before i lose that 1.65 stealth buff

[iron reef]

Guys I just leveled my BB cooking skills to 50 using red orbs because read somewhere to do it. What is actually the purpose, my ladle production is still the same

[frigid swift]

game is just too ez

[proud arch]

American tipper talent

Skill mastery rift

[iron reef]

Ok thanks, not quite there yet.

[frigid swift]

and another lol

[dreamy merlin]

yea its an early artifact, it gets hard snow island and higher for sov

[junior dune]

Both of those are likely useless btw

[fallen zinc]

Any tips on killing the world 5 boss?
I can't wave clear fast enough right now

[dreamy merlin]

what class

and dmg

[fallen zinc]

DK

[dreamy merlin]

what dmg

[fallen zinc]

100mil-500mil ish

[dreamy merlin]

huh?

and you cant kill kruk?

[frank prairie]

are you trying to do chaotic? lmao

[dreamy merlin]

most people would kill him with around 30m

[fallen zinc]

Sorry one to many zeros lol

10-50

[frank prairie]

50m should still be enough

[dreamy merlin]

ok makes more sense, but still should be enough

maybe need to book attacks

like shockwave and knight

[fallen zinc]

Ok ok
I can damage him just he keeps healing off the mobs

[scarlet geyser]

Kind of debating at what point should I pull my characters from lab/divinity. Once they get 75 Lab/50 Div, I guess, for now? Then I can give them Arctis and move on.

[frank prairie]

na leave them there

i took out half

[scarlet geyser]

There are some things I want to pull my chars out of the lab for, such as pushing W1-3 skills a tad with them or getting at least 5-6 chars to Wurms for the Constellation there.

[frank prairie]

im personally pushing 2100 lab

the guys not in lab bubo helps them out

[scarlet geyser]

I'm not really going for 2100 Lab right now. Right now I'm just going for 75 Lab for all kind of a checkpoint for now.

And I am up to 9 Gold Pocketwatches.

[worldly lagoon]

I spent all my trophies on gold pocketwatches before i could waste them on +1 slab

[junior dune]

+1 slab or 3000 atom clicks 40 NSLB hits and the same amount of gilded stamps

It's a hard choice

[worldly lagoon]

I can just get slab later

Rn i feel so far behind on stamps and bubbles

[tranquil gorge]

Am i missing something or are the kruk shoes better than marbiglass shoes?

[twin idol]

I've heard sometimes you want to mix and other times kruk is better? not sure

[pastel kayak]

I almost got past wave 50 in td in world 3 but I lost @worldly lagoon

[worldly lagoon]

Rip. Gl nxt time

[worldly lagoon]

Marble set is trash

[pastel kayak]

Anyway to have more health in td? @worldly lagoon

[junior dune]

You can get 20 from a superbit

[eternal geyser]

bro how do i access idleon efficiency

[cyan mantle]

Bruh I opened a gold oyster and I got 1 point

[proud arch]

I opened 22 so far and got 24

[scarlet geyser]

You guys are getting Golden Oysters?

[proud arch]

i bought 20 and got 2. also bought 2 sets of coolers lol

[golden apex]

how'd you get this

[twin idol]

chiozar recipe from tasks

[golden apex]

the 5th one of this?

[scarlet geyser]

I can't feel like I am doing this a lot slower than I had hoped to.

[remote thunder]

[twin idol]

one of them yes (5th one could be correct I forgot)

[wanton kettle]

Anyone tryna do dungeon?

🥺

[golden apex]

K ty

btw is there a way to always get a 6 in the dice minigame in the arcade?

[wanton kettle]

Yeah but it’s cheating

[golden apex]

aw : (

[peak verge]

Any HH gamers?

[twin idol]

normally it is recommended to double tap red dice in arcade to get a good chance at 6's
(click it fast right away rather than looking for 6)

[scarlet geyser]

I just let Yogg take the wheel.

[whole lotus]

is there a w5 splicer?

[peak verge]

Not yet.

[scarlet geyser]

I really, really need to get around to getting my 3D prints fixed.

[slate narwhal]

is this worth it for a damage preset (+1 str every 2 levels)

[stuck river]

1 point

[slate narwhal]

k

Im generally not an active player, but what would you recommend I invest some points into

[stuck river]

Knight

[slate narwhal]

(my gaming level is low)

[stuck river]

Orb

Is this your pusher btw

[slate narwhal]

yeah

[stuck river]

Show damage

[slate narwhal]

tried the nightmare amarok no talent achieve, couldnt get, so just resetting the talents lmao

[stuck river]

Yeah I couldn't get that either lmao

[stuck river]

Map

[slate narwhal]

wym?

[stuck river]

Which map u pushed up to

If not too late switch to es

[stuck river]

Is that a bit too late

[slate narwhal]

I dont mind

[stuck river]

Switch then

I think

Show es first

[slate narwhal]

but dk is fun : (

[stuck river]

It can also work but like 2-3x effort

[slate narwhal]

completely terrible, been in lab since w4

[stuck river]

Where is squishmallow

[slate narwhal]

only pushed for equinox task

[stuck river]

Why is she offline

[stuck river]

Show damage

And gear

[slate narwhal]

gonna kill nightmare amarok rq

[slate narwhal]

havent priod gear at all (obv been in lab)

[stuck river]

Ok hear me out here, just my personal story

I was originally using a dk to push and had like 2.4m damage at moltis

Then I asked how to get more damage and got the answer of switching to es

So my es was level 89, had like idk 1m damage

[slate narwhal]

hmm

[stuck river]

Then I upgraded his gear, booked some talents and it instantly got to 4.9m without even levelling at all

I was in half amarok still

[slate narwhal]

my dk dmg just halved on citrus map, bc of 1.5x acc talent

[proud arch]

Jeez I have no idea where all the stats came from just doing my fishing samples to start and they all went up 2-2.5x

[stuck river]

Yeah that's the whole problem of dk

U just do more pig Quests for es

[slate narwhal]

ive heard fishing samples are pretty bad, but I need for refinery. Is this true?

(that theyre bad)

[stuck river]

Yes

[proud arch]

They are low then the other classes. Not awful tho

[slate narwhal]

eyyy

[proud arch]

Won't hold you back any tbh

[stuck river]

Use on es👍🏻

[slate narwhal]

lmao was gonna say

I just have witch hat rn

[stuck river]

I was also using witch hat

[slate narwhal]

DAMN you're so right

I didnt realise the dmg

[stuck river]

Told ya

I've seen not less than 4 people struggling to get dk damage up

[slate narwhal]

ofc single target, but ig that doesnt matter for afk?

health is also a big problem though

I have 12k hp on dk

1k on this

and also...

[stuck river]

Just use food

[slate narwhal]

should I wait for w6? I changed from bb to dk after w4

[stuck river]

Wdym wait for w6

[slate narwhal]

my dk is halfway thru w5, would it be faster to continue dk?

or change

[stuck river]

U can't get the damage up, it'll still be worthless eventually

[slate narwhal]

k

[stuck river]

Just use es you'll have a so much better time

[slate narwhal]

I'll enjoy the 200 level though, basically a week after 8 char, I get 9th aha

[stuck river]

!gear 2

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[slate narwhal]

prio?

[stuck river]

Wait no wrong command fuck

[stuck river]

Book gilded sword

[slate narwhal]

ofc low on talent points, lvl 100

[stable temple]

Actually is lab shoes even worth using? It's 700 flat efficiency, is that even meaningful?

[stuck river]

Ull get like a butt ton of levels

[stuck river]

Idk never used those

[scarlet geyser]

Okay...time to figure out, what to sample on whom...

[stuck river]

Hello anstane

[scarlet geyser]

Especially in terms of fish on my BB.

Hello.

[slate narwhal]

exactly

[stuck river]

Yeah u need to fit 13 fish in 7 sample slot

Well 4 but uh

[stuck river]

Less chaotic force

Like 20 is enough

[slate narwhal]

does it work afk?

[stuck river]

Dosemt really help as much as you think

[slate narwhal]

and the tornadoes etc are free mp right?

[stuck river]

Yes

Use thunder barrage and meteor and chainbolt

Those 3 are your main juice of damage

And tornado as well

[slate narwhal]

talent reset?

[stuck river]

Yes

[slate narwhal]

k 1 sec

[whole lotus]

best class to farm kattlecruck obol?

[stuck river]

You don't yet

[whole lotus]

so its not possible yet? i thought its ezpz

[stuck river]

It's a 1/100k drop my bro

[whole lotus]

my guy i would like you to read

[stuck river]

Omw

[scarlet geyser]

.

You know...this is actually the perfect time for me to assemble Exodia for new and big samples.

[stuck river]

Regardless you always use a vman for bosses

[stuck river]

Why purrmep

[scarlet geyser]

Because highest level Divinity.

[stuck river]

You can do so much more stuff with es man

[scarlet geyser]

But that is not important.

[slate narwhal]

what to prio

[stuck river]

More mana

[scarlet geyser]

Now this...this is important.

[stuck river]

And book the talents you maxed right there

[stuck river]

This is important yes

[slate narwhal]

in 2nd tab

[peak verge]

I also have purrmep on my 2nd ES that just warms the lab + he can always change the secondary link to whatever he needs.

[stuck river]

Both

But don't max u need wis as well

[whole lotus]

ohhhhhhh yeah cant kill chaotic kattle with vman yet

[stuck river]

Yes

[scarlet geyser]

......

BRB, fixing this minor problem.

[slate narwhal]

?

[stuck river]

Also yes this

Is exactly why you want more mana

[slate narwhal]

so hp isnt a big issue

[stuck river]

Technically

[slate narwhal]

plenty points for tab 3

max tornado, mana is life and extra wis?

[stuck river]

Yes

[peak verge]

mana > wisdom probably

[stuck river]

For push es yes because mana for life

Mana is life cough

[peak verge]

it also affects afk gains to my knowledge rather substantialy

[slate narwhal]

max the volcanoes?

[stuck river]

I'd say meh

[peak verge]

tornado before volcanoes but yes

[slate narwhal]

I got 30 points take it or leave it aha

[stuck river]

Just get to a point where you can spawn 4 volcanoes

[stuck river]

Speedy book

[peak verge]

I'd recommend maxing tornadoes and stamps as a baseline.

[slate narwhal]

?

[scarlet geyser]

...I can't help but feel like that's a pretty...small sample size >_>

[proud arch]

Samples are crazy xD wish I knew what I did. My woodcutting sample just tripled

[peak verge]

It looks ok, might hurt a bit to not have 4th if you active ES.

[slate narwhal]

I wont max lighting or fireball?

[scarlet geyser]

Hold on, forgot food. There we go, up to 2798...but still.

[slate narwhal]

im mostly afk... actually the only active I do is the event aha

[peak verge]

Fireball when you have to spare since it can trigger in the 4th tab

Oh if full afk that slightly changes a few things.

[peak verge]

I sampled recently and only got like 3.5k but then again I'm missing multitool sample.

[stuck river]

Seemed about right

I'm using a Plat net for whatever reason

[peak verge]

Pain

[scarlet geyser]

...well, I guess I don't feel as bad about it now if it really is that bad.

[stuck river]

Fresh yesterday sample

[stuck river]

Start grinding my dude

[slate narwhal]

what here, first?

[slate narwhal]

boutta candy and get a bagillion levels and talent points

[scarlet geyser]

Well, this is as high as I can get it for now.

[stuck river]

But
Wormhole isn't that much useful for pushing

[scarlet geyser]

It's...a start, at least.

[stuck river]

Seemed decent enough

[peak verge]

Maybe check up on other stamps / alchemy / printing boosts from DK.

[slate narwhal]

and its active only right?

[peak verge]

Yep, but it's the main skill on your ES. ES isn't exactly an afk class.

[stuck river]

Uh iirc yes

[peak verge]

also afk talent here

[slate narwhal]

time to buy autoloot

[peak verge]

You made it this far without it?

Can't say if I admire the dedication or the foolishness.

[stuck river]

I got it at mid w4

[slate narwhal]

w4 I bought a $5 steam gift card

turns out the price is $5 usd and $7.50 aud

[slate narwhal]

maybe thats why I dont active aha

[stuck river]

The most cheap card I can find is for $25

[scarlet geyser]

Now the question is, of all the fish, which do I print for now...guess I should print the small fish until I get a Gstack first.

[slate narwhal]

Maybe I just go the entire game without autoloot

[scarlet geyser]

Maybe not in the millions sample-side-wise, but hey. I'm content enough and besides, this is moreso for me to fix up stuff like, uh, this.

These are my Bubo and BM

[peak verge]

I just keep BM and vman to print materials since they're not exactly specialized otherwise. As long as you can keep the refinery running, you're fine.

I went from like 50 green caps to 8k whenever I remembered to sample last.

[scarlet geyser]

Vman is specialized.

In monster drops.

[peak verge]

Skill wise I mean.

[scarlet geyser]

Yeah, skill-wise makes sense.

[slate narwhal]

DAMMIT, I did the stones on my dk

[scarlet geyser]

The real question was why were you stoning it to begin with. Unless the XP from monsters makes it BiS for something?

[slate narwhal]

you're not supposed to stone stuff?

[scarlet geyser]

No, not that.

[peak verge]

I think the question is more along the lines of why would you use that helmet?

[scarlet geyser]

Just that, I'd imagine you'd only want to get that to craft this.

[slate narwhal]

Because I have witch hat currently aha

[hushed ember]

Bro just craft dementia

[scarlet geyser]

Or even Platinum if you don't have the froges.

[slate narwhal]

.

[scarlet geyser]

You lose 3 base Wis.

But you get +6% Def and +12 base Agi which is good for accuracy.

[proud arch]

Does your god matter for trapping ?

[slate narwhal]

ig ill craft this

[proud arch]

That helm was absolutely fire during w4

[slate narwhal]

My es had been on lab for the last few weeks, I had not thought about gear until 5 mins ago

Need more void bars

[cyan mantle]

Waste but alright

[sand vine]

hello, i found out pushing this lamp is very slow but i wonder why w5 boss ES recommend is 30m dmg (?) ok nvm.
i was trying to make a follow up on backtracking and stuck with greenstack. what exactly greenstack for? other than equinox. is there any full guide about "greenstack for xx" i cant see anywhere even on wiki

oh anyway, should i keep pushing my ES until w5 boss? feels like it takes forever 😩 or doing equinox greenstacks?

[cyan mantle]

You usually go from void straight to Troll then magma then kruk and so on just troll is the hardest one

[slate narwhal]

I feel like the crafting in this is counterintuitive. Why is it a waste?

[scarlet geyser]

Because it's a dead-end craft.

You can't upgrade it anymore after.

[cyan mantle]

We only really craft lustre and those helmets for fuckin what you call it slab

[scarlet geyser]

And Dementia -> Void -> Troll is better.

[cyan mantle]

Troll is just a pain bc of those nullo salts

[peak verge]

Greenstacks are for equinox and for lab buffs.

[scarlet geyser]

Gold Twines: "Hello there."

[slate narwhal]

ugh

[proud arch]

Green stacks are/were a major damage source from lab

[cyan mantle]

I used like 3 days worth of candies for 3

[scarlet geyser]

Basically, what we are trying to say is.

Just go Dementia -> Void Imperium as you can actually upgrade it to better stuff later.

[sand vine]

oh so when im not opening all lab contentyet (stuck on x2 stamp bcs all in div now), its not worth to nurturing it?

[slate narwhal]

so dementia armour or efsunt?

[cyan mantle]

Dementia

[scarlet geyser]

Dementia.

[slate narwhal]

bloody hell

[peak verge]

Dementia all the way to chizoar until you're ready to swap to troll.

[crystal latch]

when u get to goat god, u gonna go back to lab

[scarlet geyser]

Yeah, Chizoar is a good stopover until you get to Troll.

[crystal latch]

since goat makes u get div exp from staying on lab

[scarlet geyser]

Hell, I'm still pushing in W6 with Chizoar gear.

[slate narwhal]

chiz armour?

[peak verge]

I mean you can try to slowly progress towards gstacks but mileage may vary based on sample size and the such.

[peak verge]

w3 boss armor

[scarlet geyser]

Granted, this is primarily because of the lack of salts to craft Troll armor, but hey.

[cyan mantle]

My character got that drip

[scarlet geyser]

Worse armor, but a better weapon at least.

[cyan mantle]

But what's your damage

[scarlet geyser]

With or without cape/nametag?

[slate narwhal]

is it worth it not using brimstone slots? Or will I have enough ores anyway?

[cyan mantle]

Without bc I don't spend money

[cyan mantle]

Fuck I only got 22b

But that's fine I've been focusing on cooking and breeding for the past 10 days

[scarlet geyser]

Mm.

Alright, now it's back to trying to get my print samples fixed.

[cyan mantle]

Cya

[slate narwhal]

dementia helm over witch hat?

[scarlet geyser]

Yes.

[magic peak]

This is good right?

[scarlet geyser]

Mm...I'd rather Boat Speed.

[magic peak]

😭 yesterday people we're telling me to go for loot value andnnot boat speed and now it's the other way around

[crystal latch]

i mean theres a limit on how much boat speed gonna be useful

[scarlet geyser]

Eventually, I guess, yeah.

[crystal latch]

and if hes focusing on closer island to upgrade the boats first

loot gonna be better

[peak verge]

!gear2

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[scarlet geyser]

Witch's Hat has one purpose once you unlock Dementia gear: Chopping gains.

[lucid sentinel]

wtf happened to my dmg, it somehow tanked overnight and the only things different afaik from now and this previous msg are my using my staff, the dungeons card set instead of w3, and getting 6-8 new infinite star signs (up until the last 4 in the first tab)

wait im stupid maybe i didnt have fibers of absense in the prev photo

wtf fibers of absense was glitched and wasnt actualyl taking my dmg, now its 37k

what can tank my dmg and class xp

and dr

i dontt hink sacking drupius major, in case i had it on earlier, would lower it by that much

[scarlet geyser]

Okay. The first page has been fixed up quite nicely, I would say, now. Not amazing, but certainly a huge improvement.

[stuck river]

Tine to resample my fish

[stuck river]

Nice

[scarlet geyser]

I still don't have that.

[lucid sentinel]

i wasted my 20 books i got overnight on tentacleye instead of blood marrow F

didnt realize the bonus would be worthless

[grand scarab]

ayyy 😄

[brisk obsidian]

hey boys sailing level only affects rng to get better captains rigth?

[scarlet geyser]

Yes.

[solar seal]

not better captains, higher tier captains which don't necessarily mean they are better - higher tier just have chance at better base stats due to higher potential roll but does not mean innately better

[grand scarab]

holyyyyyyyyyyyy, it finally happened

[lucid sentinel]

Grats

[brisk obsidian]

ahh oki thanks for the answer

[tranquil gorge]

Is OJ bay still the best for plunderous kill stacking?

[lucid sentinel]

Do i go for eldritch fury artifact or ancient crystal steak

[solar seal]

fury

[tranquil gorge]

steak

Eldritch fury is going to be like 0.01% per chest

[nova lynx]

I have half my gang on fury and half trying to sovereign early islands 😭

[tranquil gorge]

get the steak then fury

[nova lynx]

still no eldritch 🥲

[grand scarab]

steak put me so close to 200b in damage cards 😮

[scarlet geyser]

Eyyy, broke 1 million Copper Ore sample.

[viral granite]

insane x)

[scarlet geyser]

OH Godda-

Do you have any idea how much annoyance this causes right now?

By the way, dumb question.

These and their other skill like are worth investing in eventually, right?

[ember ermine]

that's not even a particularly difficult crafting requirement

[oak bolt]

how to unlock 3rd lvl of artifacts

[grand scarab]

rift

[oak bolt]

which lvl

[grand scarab]

31

[oak bolt]

ok

[zinc torrent]

Hey guys how much damage do you recommend to fight W5 boss

[scarlet geyser]

All of it.

[zinc torrent]

??

[grand scarab]

look at the channel pins

[scarlet geyser]

Yeah, check the pins.

[zinc torrent]

Sry I'm new to discord how can I check them

[zinc torrent]

Alright I figured it out

[zinc torrent]

I'm on mobile it is different but thanks

[scarlet geyser]

Okay, now, what to print...

[zinc torrent]

Ok I need to double the damage

[grand scarab]

work on chizoar gear and stamps/alch

youll be there in no time

[zinc torrent]

I will go to party find to see if anyone helps to finish w2 and W3 dungeons

[dense flax]

Is that ok to push to the end of w5?

[zinc torrent]

How did you get so much dmg

[grand scarab]

hype

[nova lynx]

yeah you could candy and beat chiz with that dmg. assuming you haven't completely shitted on your talents

[terse verge]

And by chiz jt means kruk

[nova lynx]

where the hell do I get more of these cloudy boys? I checked a few mobs and it seems like all drop rate is pretty ass for a w1 quest. Trying to get Scoli to stop hounding me on stamps

[dense flax]

I think my talents are good but i wouldn‘t mind some tips or an look on my talents

[nova lynx]

Nah candy to chiz

[zinc torrent]

I need only to get dmg and I beat the W5

[solar seal]

crystal + chocochip 🙂

[dense flax]

I think mostly the rings, cape and equinox ring

And the scarf

[zinc torrent]

My scarf is a lot better than yours the rings can be a problem to get and the cape and equinox ring I don't know how to get them

[nova lynx]

tab 3 this is big dmg buff. make sure you have stamps for it to benefit more. lightning barrage/radiant bolt should be booked and maxed (you need no portal for kruk, etc.). Also max your mana with higher books from tab 1/2 talents since Overclocked Energy (spell 12 of tab 1) gives you dmg buff from MP. But since your dmg is already high for 1st kruk hit, just need to really make sure those 2x tab 4 talents are maxed.
^^ Caesar look at these talents to buff your dmg

[nova lynx]

choco can suck it for 2 months

[dense flax]

So rather look for those than my meteors?

[scarlet geyser]

Oh FFS, out of Platinum Bars. BRB, gonna wait out 32 bars so I can upgrade the pickaxe.

[zinc torrent]

I have them all max, level 125, I don't know how to increase library

[nova lynx]

You can keep meteor leveled, but it should be 2nd tier to lightning and radiant bolt. Kruk is a DPS check with some ad clear (which is where radiant/meteor will help). Lightning is your main single target big boy boom dmg

[dense flax]

What scarf do you have?

[scarlet geyser]

...what even is that scarf?

[grand scarab]

lol

[nova lynx]

is a gemshop fomo necklace lol

[scarlet geyser]

Oh. A Gemshop one.

[zinc torrent]

Yeah and I already test it out and it is better

[nova lynx]

Caesar, you've probably neglected stamps and alch as well as aren't talented properly to maximize your ES dmg. Feel free to send your IE as well

[dense flax]

And how much should i level my portal for general playing and should i just do a build without it for bosses?

[zinc torrent]

How can I increase library talent levels?

My max is level 125

[nova lynx]

No after you beat Kruk you will not have a "boss" build. Honestly with your dmg you can prob leave portal maxed. I'm just saying you can respec to move points from that to lightning + chianbolt if they aren't maxed yet

[scarlet geyser]

Early on, Salt Lick is one of the main ones, plus a few achievements.

Eventually, the big one will be the Fury relic from Sailing.

[grand scarab]

i like having 1 point in portal personally

[dense flax]

Ok

[zinc torrent]

I'm a bit confused about library

[grand scarab]

maxed makes it last too long and they dont die, just become damage sponges and it slows down your overall kills

[nova lynx]

sounds like a skill issue on dmg

[grand scarab]

fair >_>

[nova lynx]

jk after i hit the 200-220 on w1 mobs I can't kill anything anyways lol. i'm a noob too

[grand scarab]

this is why i play DK

[dense flax]

Whats the max dmg you have hit until now?

In one strike

[scarlet geyser]

Okay. While the Plat bars are being smelted...

[zinc torrent]

I believe it's 300 M

I don't have that super crit book, I'm a bit unlucky

[dense flax]

Me too you dont need that for still good dmg

[dense flax]

I have still great crits

[zinc torrent]

But I need dmg for killing a 100B health boss

[dense flax]

Btw you can look at your w2 task at the top right so you know

[dense flax]

Which one ?

Chizoar

?

[zinc torrent]

W5 boss

[ember ermine]

is it a bad idea to just keep statues in storage forever until i can unlock onyx

[dense flax]

Oh

[scarlet geyser]

Alright, wake me up in 10 hou-oh wait, this might only take a couple of minutes.

[nova lynx]

This + max salt lick = 130 base max level. Then you can have arctis linked on the char for added levels, as well as ES's family bonus for added levels, as well as Symbols of Beyond (tab 4 spell15) for additional levels. Then if you rolled rift slug, you get +25 to that as well.

Those are the early talent book bumps.

[grand scarab]

if you arent really all that close id just depo em personally, unless your statue level is already fairly high

[dense flax]

Whats your max dmg stat in your inv.?

[zinc torrent]

How I can get that wings?

Is it paid? Or a drop

[scarlet geyser]

Paid.

It's from a pack.

[zinc torrent]

Ahh

[nova lynx]

please don't waste that luxury of storage space. 😦

[dense flax]

And the wings are great

[zinc torrent]

[ember ermine]

I figure i'll just deposit the statues if i'm ever out of space

[zinc torrent]

I will see what I can do

[scarlet geyser]

To be fair, I am also partway through W6 as well.

[nova lynx]

you are outta space though. Those statues you can get in like 5mins or less with where I'm at (which doesn't have choco chip or card doublers which are the MAJOR boosters for statue farming)

[dense flax]

Is the boss still like hard bc i only got that

[nova lynx]

I'm at the very prelim earliest recommended stage of when you should start farming statues

[ember ermine]

is there anything wrong with these talents for ES?

[ember ermine]

i actually have choco chip bc i'm a degenerate gambler (I got it first try BTW)

[scarlet geyser]

Well, keep in mind I'm fighting Nightmare Kattle.

[dense flax]

Oh

[scarlet geyser]

Who has 1Qa health.

[dense flax]

I thought normal

[nova lynx]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml# use this as a reference. yes you have some big gaps

[ember ermine]

My crystal spawn chance does suck a bit though admittedly, only lv60 on crystallin stamp and no card doublers

[nova lynx]

don't worry about crystals until you've been in w6 for a minute. You need 4* cards of a lot of stuff, obol farmed for higher DR, etc. before you should consider statue farming.

[dense flax]

Isnt that a bit old?

Or am i wrong

[nova lynx]

I mean it isn't the best guide because it's a generic suggestion and makes some bad assumptions about how many talent points everyone has, but it's a fine foundation.

[ember ermine]

I have pop obols maxed out already but not dice obols

[nova lynx]

And ofr rigged - make sure you max lightning + radiant before meteor on the ES tab.

[dense flax]

Alr

[scarlet geyser]

Heh. Gotta love seeing evidence of getting stronger.

My first Nightmare Kattle fight took literally something like 3-4 hours.

Now I got it done in ~7-8 minutes.

[grand scarab]

hell yeah bro 🙂

[ember ermine]

i think i spent 3-4 hours on crystal island lol

[scarlet geyser]

And I still got nothing of value drop-wise!

But I at least got this over and done with.

[nova lynx]

More kruk recipes to go farm for now

[scarlet geyser]

Next one is the same thing, just don't let him heal.

So literally the same thing for my ES.

[nova lynx]

Yeah... I thought task9 was sort of silly.

[spice meadow]

My nightmare kruk gets done in 7 secs and i still dont have all divine scarfs, its rigged i say

[dense flax]

What starsigns should i use for my ES ( i only got until hydron + 3% wisdom)

[scarlet geyser]

Mngh. Need some more Smithing levels as well as a half-Gstack of those lamps.

[grand scarab]

time to get on the grind :D. be something nice to look forward to

[scarlet geyser]

Though I guess it doesn't even matter anyway.

My highest Smithing is still a meager 69. And in this case, it's not nice.

[stuck river]

Encountered a slight issue when tyring to resample my bugs

[nova lynx]

We all on the troll/kruk grind aww yeah

[dense flax]

Is farming stilted seeker cards worth it bc. its all stat and not like just wisdom for my ES?

[nova lynx]

Do you ahve your card drop rate cards at 4* yet?

[dense flax]

Wich are those

[nova lynx]

gigafrog, snelbie, mustache.

If you did't know what they were you most likely don't. Those should be farmed before you ever card farm anyone else

[dense flax]

Only snelbie

[nova lynx]

You should probably get them all gold (3*), then work on getting them to plat (4star) honestly before moving on to actually farming other cards

If you are trying to card farm now

[dense flax]

And should i also use cards to get max accuracy or is like 75% hit chance enouth bc of my dmg

[nova lynx]

Should do anything you can to get max accuracy. But you should try to not use cards. There's a prayer that gives a huge accuracy % buff for small dmg loss. That + Shaq bubble + roo + general alch upkeep should honestly give you enough accuracy by end of w5

[grand scarab]

so close to next coin 😮

[nova lynx]

Oooh gonna have that beautiful godshard coin, noice

[sharp mauve]

Very bad map to farm. Come back later. Stat% is only impactful when you hit 5 digits or more.

[scarlet geyser]

Now I need to decide what to print and/or smelt with these two. Starfire, Void Imperium for smelting, Copper for Gstacking and stuff and...?

[grand scarab]

dont forget equinox mats

[dense flax]

I normaly hit arount 500 -900 M

[sharp mauve]

Damage is not all Stat

[nova lynx]

Pichu meant 5digits in your stats so like 10,000+ agi etc

[scarlet geyser]

...I actually completely forgot Equinox

[amber tiger]

I just remembered that I have this in my chest, is there something I can do with it or just sell it ?

[sharp mauve]

Slab and Looty

[ember ermine]

am i tripping or do the red forge cards drop way more often than blue

[dense flax]

Ok , i only have 3,3k wisdom

[stuck river]

Nice

[sharp mauve]

I believe there are other cards for Skilling and Combat other than using Seeker

[stuck river]

Are these even accurate

(Ignore the flies i haven't sampled in like forever)

[nova lynx]

Read what section that is in. Late w6

[stuck river]

But
Isnt oak samples supposed to be double than copper

[nova lynx]

I mean maybe early on? But pretty sure copper becomes huge like oak at some point too.

But I ain't an expert 🙃

[stuck river]

I don't think it'll be that close anyways lmao

[wintry elbow]

if ur account is balanced, it shouldnt be double. Oaks will be a bit better but definitely not double.

[stuck river]

So you mean mine isn't balanced right

[zinc torrent]

Use quick fixes to improve accuracy, such as Shaquracy, Roid Ragin/Swift Steppin/Stable Jenius, and Poppi bonuses.

Cheesy Bread and the Utility PO Box also provide Accuracy boosts

There are also chips.

If you're still struggling, put your characters on Upgrade Stone-boosted gear by secondary stat

[stuck river]

What

[zinc torrent]

That was supposed to be for @dense flax

[stuck river]

Okay

[wintry elbow]

idk i dont know ur account 😄

[stuck river]

Not that balanced actually

[zinc torrent]

Use quick fixes to improve accuracy, such as Shaquracy, Roid Ragin/Swift Steppin/Stable Jenius, and Poppi bonuses.

The Utility PO Box, Cheesy Bread and the Grounded Software Lab Chip also provide Accuracy boosts

If you're still struggling, put your characters on Upgrade Stone-boosted gear by secondary stat

[stuck river]

Dk in half divine, bubo in full magma, rest in full chizoar, duplicate classes are in dementia

[wintry elbow]

theres a difference in samples for sure and oak is easier, but they get decently close to each other

[dense flax]

Thx , i will try

[stuck river]

Alchemy then

I suppose I am very behind cuz no choco

[zinc torrent]

Alchemy resolves almost any struggle one can think of

[nova lynx]

Alchemy blesses all

[stuck river]

Real

[scarlet geyser]

Good thing you added the "Almost".

Because I don't think Alchemy helps with dungeons :p

[grand scarab]

got all 10 to low detection on highest floor now 😮

[stuck river]

Neither does doot luck

[stuck river]

Im at 4% but door rate too slow

[grand scarab]

yeah... i might have to work on some better chucks before i break this door

i have about 1m damage per cycle with the chucks i have rn lol

[nova lynx]

4* normal troll and 3* chaotic troll but out of keys. yay prog

[stuck river]

I'll just leave it as it be to find better lotuses while the boost is here this week

[grand scarab]

thats my plan

[stuck river]

I got 0* chaotic troll

[nova lynx]

is huge. 10% skill eff per tier

[grand scarab]

so much free skill eff lol

[nova lynx]

my samples are gonna be huge lol

whenever i can finally resample

[stuck river]

Omw to farm it

[zinc torrent]

I just Cardified and Rubified Chaotic Troll ASAP

[stuck river]

But
I'm low on keys

[grand scarab]

farm keys

[nova lynx]

I don't have a cardifier, but might blow my 1 ruby on it after I go get more keys

[stuck river]

Slight issue

I got 40 colo tickets 👍🏻

[nova lynx]

no farm mobs not colo lol

[stuck river]

That's quicker

[nova lynx]

I just don't think spending your colo tix just for boss keys is very useful

[grand scarab]

yeah, i wouldnt lol

[stuck river]

I'll take free candy and ladles

[grand scarab]

just go camp stilteds for a few hours

[stuck river]

I'm on vacation and do not have the time

[nova lynx]

Gonna be sad when you have to wait weeksto get a single w6 run when you're looking for g.food tickets

[stuck river]

Let me see brb

So the issue wasn't really that big of an issue

[grand scarab]

not too bad

[stuck river]

Feat. 911 kruk keys

[nova lynx]

should prob get you to 3*. think i just dropped like ~160 keys

and i got 8 cards toward 4* before running out

[stuck river]

Vman?

[scarlet geyser]

Okay.

[nova lynx]

Vman, CDR cards + like 12.4x DR

[stuck river]

If I really ran out I'll just do 1 w4 colo

[stuck river]

I'm working with 9x Dr unfortunately

Where i get more dr

[nova lynx]

Hopefully you get more luck

Obol farm is big component.

[scarlet geyser]

I got my 3D printing fixed up. Could I have pushed some more? Probably, but, to be frank, by the time I got to my 9'th and 10'th characters, I just wanted to be finished with this, so I just settled on "Good enough" with them.

[nova lynx]

that is the tragic part of pushing all 10 samples in the same sesh.. 'eh f this i just want to be done'

[grand scarab]

im so glad i have all 10 printer slots lol

[stuck river]

🐳

[grand scarab]

seems like such a hassle trying to juggle all the prints with only 6 slots a person

[nova lynx]

Buying slot 6 before my last full resample was very clutch. Now having slot 7 will be even nicer lol.

[stuck river]

The issue was detected and refused to be solved

[nova lynx]

Honestly though after you gs most of the mats, you just need 1 for maximum atoms

[nova lynx]

cards will help a ton with DR as well

[grand scarab]

i think its funny that this game is the only game you can be called a whale for spending any amount of money lol

[stuck river]

Not like I don't have

[mystic minnow]

sent all my ships to the cloud island just to get the vase 😆

[nova lynx]

yeah considering most other idle games you have to hit like $1k+ spent to even be in consideration for whale. most have way higher reqs 😦

[solar seal]

i think its more about the fact that it is possible to do a lot as strictly f2p since gems are actually farmable compared to certain gachas or other games where the f2p farm is pretty limited

[ember ermine]

except pets

[nova lynx]

You mean a game where I can enjoy like 99.9% of the content for free or minimum $$? EVERYONE SUPPORTING THE DEV IS EVIL WHALE

[solar seal]

we don't talk about pets

[stuck river]

Pets yes

[ember ermine]

also f2p means you're locked out of crystal farming

[whole lotus]

is there a guide for what lures to use for what fish print?

[stuck river]

Gonna farm my dr obols rn

[grand scarab]

bro... most games out there people spend 1k a MONTH lol

[nova lynx]

how is that possible? lol I've bought 2 things in this game and crystal farm just fine

[ember ermine]

(no autoloot)

[zinc torrent]

The first rule of Pet Club is: you do not talk about Pet Club

The second Rule of Pet Club is: you do not talk about Pet Club

[solar seal]

"locked out" means impossible - difficult is probably the word you are looking for

[nova lynx]

shh I don't play those cause I don't drop a lot of recurring money on games lol.

[ember ermine]

yeah i guess technically you could check your monitor every 5 minutes and manually loot everything

[dense flax]

Any general tips on how to quickly lvl my ES?

[grand scarab]

outside of his weird fomo bullshit that Lava pulls sometimes, i think this is one of the most f2p friendly games ive played in a long time lol

[zinc torrent]

Active farm first and foremost:

• Use Dimensional Wormhole, for Mob respawn and scaled Class XP. Boost Damage for higher Wormhole Scores
• Use Lightning Barrage for higher damage to Wormhole mobs
• Use Meteor Shower and Radiant Chainbolt for AoE

[grand scarab]

idk, i dont really feel bad for people that wont spend fucking 5$ to not have autoloot lol

if youre that down bad for 5$, idleon should be the least of your worries (outside of young kids tbf)

[hollow lodge]

Good enough for world 6?

[grand scarab]

to push w6? not really, to start it, kinda

[nova lynx]

Also why are you sending your vman stats?

[hollow lodge]

Noted

[grand scarab]

oh that is vman lol, didnt notice that

[dense flax]

Is this any priority or can i spend my points on better things bc. i could need the points

[hollow lodge]

Wanna know if I did well or not

[zinc torrent]

Meteor Shower, Dimensional Wormhole, Lightning Barrage, Radiant Chainbolt

[nova lynx]

Vman isn't a really good marker for most accounts since it is 99.999% a support char.

[hollow lodge]

Noted but it's a little bit too late to tell me tht now

[nova lynx]

He has 10 vmen 👀

[grand scarab]

oh lawd lol

[nova lynx]

Still gotta start that super troll account

My non-troll alt has only made it through 1.5 days 💀 he's been neglected

[hollow lodge]

Ohhh hell no I only got 3

[grand scarab]

lmao

'only'

[zinc torrent]

VMan pushes maps by using Void Speedrun to adjust progression to the furthest reached among the other characters.

What you can do in Combat with VMan is get more class levels and use Crystal Countdown to speed up Skilling.
You can survive at Sprout Spirits with those stats

[solar seal]

rip your account progress with 3 vmen

[nova lynx]

Hey. ACTUALLY... having 1 main carry and 9 vmen is actually fastest w6 prog I've ever heard of

what's a spirit lock? I got 9 speedruns

[grand scarab]

lmao

too bad every other aspect of your account would be bricked lmao

[nova lynx]

it might take you 5 years to get to w6 pushing, but... lol

[hollow lodge]

also my other two bowman

[scarlet geyser]

Okay. Now I have to ponder, what to actually do now...

[hollow lodge]

Noted

[grand scarab]

hampters/pearlers

[scarlet geyser]

I guess I can just continue this...

[zinc torrent]

The good news is you can still cover all the classes that are currently out.

The bad news is you won't be able to cover all the future classes

[grand scarab]

push for beans for og for sure

[scarlet geyser]

That's the plan.

[grand scarab]

just got mine last night, its so nice

got my first og crops this morning 😄

[hollow lodge]

Sadly yes I just now realized

[nova lynx]

we def aren't Lowgun level but just having farm continue to prog while working or sleeping is so much better. praise be to OG

[scarlet geyser]

I would also like to have more than 8 farm plots...

[grand scarab]

now we just need to have farming cycles not take fucking 90 minutes each

[hollow lodge]

At least i have something to be proud off

lvl 100 fishing and mining

[stuck river]

@nova lynx this turned to be more depressing than I thought

[nova lynx]

Honestly not asd bad as mine was literally like a week ago 😦 I think I had a total of like ~+30% dr lol

[stuck river]

I blew half my 4 hour candies for 0.5x dr

[nova lynx]

Oh... yeah candying for DR is not the play

[stuck river]

I mean dr is dr

[nova lynx]

At least I don't think it is lol

[stuck river]

Time to fix dice obols, which I don't have choco for, yippee

[grand scarab]

yikes lol

[nova lynx]

Took a couple days to fix my drop rate but is worth lol

[scarlet geyser]

I...also need to work on finishing the DR Obol grind.

[stuck river]

Time for the cmt grind

Or chaotical massively trolle for long

Did I remember it correct

What I do for dice obols candy snelbies????

[scarlet geyser]

Well, to be fair, I have my reasons for farming Chaotic Troll...

[grand scarab]

if you dont have snelbie card maxed

if you do id go to sandy pots prob

[stuck river]

Yeah that's my intention

[stuck river]

It's 4*

Ok brb

[nova lynx]

Snelbie map for Snelb cards.
Tyson for technically best farm map.
Sandy pot for most efficient use of time (getting glass shards w/ dice obol)

But candying is not goodfor obols

[hollow lodge]

This is wht I was talking about

[nova lynx]

Candy means no crystal kills means way less rare bag drops.

[stuck river]

Can confirm, I did that 5 minutes ago

[scarlet geyser]

Aaaaaaaaaaa

[nova lynx]

Sandy pot rare bag doesnt have dice obols. You're literally at sandy pots to farm crystals for dice drops and sandy's glass shard drops

[stuck river]

Also inhales copium

[stuck river]

Snelbies do I reckon?

[grand scarab]

whatre you fishing there for?

[stuck river]

Cards

[grand scarab]

ahh

[nova lynx]

go click through your card bags to check

[stuck river]

Trying to get 4* card set

[grand scarab]

didnt think of that, makes sense lol, was gonna say if youre there for exp im gonna be sad lol

[stuck river]

Snelbies do, good news

[nova lynx]

Sorry I lied @stuck river the dice obol is in the mega rare bag. So they technically all got itl ol

[stuck river]

Oh well I'll actually grind cmt now

[nova lynx]

Can prob get ez drops from efaunt if you got keys to burn

still in mega rare bag, but efaunt drops a ton of stuff so if you need faster/instant dice obols, efaunt will be your best shot

For farming hampters -- is DR or MK better? Just DR I'd assume?

[grand scarab]

ye

[nova lynx]

My ES gonna farm those while I go to work today hopefully it's better than my first rodeo at hampter farm

[grand scarab]

mk doesnt effect rare drops i dont believe, think just base monster mats and coins?

could be wrong on that

[nova lynx]

Tbh my DR was probably like 3x that first time. And I think it's something like that, but I thought if you had high enough MK + DR it starts to effect rare drops

I def wouldn't have enough to effect hampter drops, but wasn't sure.

[tacit lion]

yes

[nova lynx]

This gonna benefit anything (in my current state) besides just going for eclipse skulls? Like it won't help me statue farm right?

[solar seal]

vman speed run

[grand scarab]

i need to be productive and get my last 2 characters out of lab today and get em started grinding lol

[tacit lion]

just do standard crystal forming for DK, so crystal spawn chance + dr

[nova lynx]

ahh yeah I do remember seeing the world rings used in that 85 portal run or whatever it was.

[grand scarab]

he wants regular hampters, no golden ones

i think?

[nova lynx]

I need reg hampters from moles

[tacit lion]

when world 1 ring

oh okey

i'd still say the same thing, why not the extra statues and such

[nova lynx]

DK sucks on stiltmole map no?

[grand scarab]

because its faster to farm on es lol

[nova lynx]

Like big time cause so many levels lol

[tacit lion]

hmm dont know actually

[grand scarab]

?

[nova lynx]

No DK sucks at stiltmole map for sure.

[grand scarab]

ES is definitely better for the hampter farm than dk lol

if you wanted to crystal farm w5 youd do it on a better map

[nova lynx]

Bjorn - was it you that tested DK at wurms recently?

[grand scarab]

edvin

im working my way there though to do it on mine

[nova lynx]

Ah kk. I think I'll still just let my bubo farm my 10k ghampters for me. but maybe I'll candy DK there

[grand scarab]

yeah, ive just been pushing a portal or two here and there

gonna start that up after i get leeks unlocked

[nova lynx]

Like w6 mob leek? Why pushing that?

[grand scarab]

sussy quest

[nova lynx]

Aaaah fudge. I should really get that too to buff summoning gains

[grand scarab]

and bingo starts tomorrow so im kinda afk for two weeks

so figure can just afk mama trolls for a week or however long it takes me to clear it lol

[nova lynx]

Lol is Leeks just right after mama trolls?

[grand scarab]

😦

[nova lynx]

Oh damn I didn't realize we also unlocked w6 mini boss at mama trolls.

Holy crap lol. 7.6m kills? 😭

[grand scarab]

lol

starts at 8m iirc

oh is that what the little cross thing on the ground is? the world boss, i was wondering what the fuck that was lmao

[nova lynx]

I was checking wiki to see where leeks were before you responded lol

[grand scarab]

guess i should try to kill that eh?

[tacit lion]

oh you learn something new everyday

[nova lynx]

I'm about to try on my bubo before I leave for the day

[tacit lion]

dont go full bonejoepicke tho, cause it will be hard

[grand scarab]

lmk how it goes lol, never tried before

[grand scarab]

i have like 9 total lol

[nova lynx]

Starts at 25T health, shouldn't be too bad but bubo might be slow as hell lol.

[solar seal]

let me be the first to warn you, they have 25T hp

fck

[nova lynx]

Nvm I'm hitting over 1T

auto triggered my CC 😦 need this to end first then we attempt to dunk them

[grand scarab]

yeah, i can easily 1 shot 25t lol

[tacit lion]

is bone joe picke 1.1 in increase of health?

alright so 9 bonejoepickle is about 59 T

[grand scarab]

ez

[nova lynx]

wish i had my boney boys on bubo

[grand scarab]

no ram?

[nova lynx]

They're in DK inventory lol

[grand scarab]

ahh lol

[nova lynx]

am too lazy rn, just want to wipe the spawn count since it's capped

[grand scarab]

yeah, same

[nova lynx]

I think mama troll actually a better map for bubo than lanterns 👀

[grand scarab]

prob yeah, get more use out of cans

[stuck river]

Got me here, yippee

[nova lynx]

More mobs to kill for more tent trigger

[grand scarab]

that too

[stuck river]

Now do I gamble for chizoar cape or cchizoar card farm

[grand scarab]

card farm

[zinc torrent]

Are you farming NM Chizoar?

[stuck river]

Chaotic for card

[zinc torrent]

Chizoar Cape is meh, unless you don't have the Slab Entry yet.

Chaotic Chizoar Card is one of the more useful ones

[stuck river]

Ok chaotic is it

I tryna 4 star it

[grand scarab]

sending it with the 9 pickles, yolo

they dying hella fast, easiest game ever

[nova lynx]

My bubo got 1 shot lol so I'm playing the slow game

1.2m hp vs 38k hp. aint fair man 🤣

[grand scarab]

i do about 5% a hit with 9 pickles on the dk

[tacit lion]

gg

[grand scarab]

plus that recipe is what i got

[nova lynx]

rip. shoulda pushed with DK

no recipe lol

[grand scarab]

rip

i didnt stack orb up a ton because i didnt know how long was gonna take to kill lol

[zinc torrent]

The Obols are also pretty good in slot for Combat

[nova lynx]

it's ok I am not making g. cake anytime soon

[grand scarab]

trust lol

guess now that im getting tab 6 recipes its probably time to make tab 5 eh?

[nova lynx]

DK just needs like 700B-1T+ for multikill lol before I push on him

[grand scarab]

imagine having mk 🥲

need to figure out how to beat this bullshit so i can have enough blue essence gen to start saving up for purple lol

[dense flax]

Has anyone an idea why i can use my 2nd character in the lab, without him acctually beeing in the lab?

[grand scarab]

linked to Arctis

[dense flax]

Oh

Thanks

[tranquil gorge]

Should i leave points in blood marrow when im not using ladles? vman could really use the 200 points on other things and it seems useless for passive cooking

[dense flax]

So is it worth it for like my entire second page and a few more characters bc. they can still lvl and get the benefits if i dont need another god on them bc. i really only use most of my characters to be in lab at the moment instead of playing them

[junior dune]

You could put it on your combat set only if you don't plan on speedrunning anytime soon

Vman should always be skilling anyways

[nova lynx]

Only way I can win in summoning if evrything goes perfectly right and I can spam the whole field rofl

[grand scarab]

lol

[frigid swift]

thatsa shame because i just i went from eldritch to sov in less than 12 hours lol

[nova lynx]

Not getting any bloomies hurts so bad

[zinc torrent]

If you're lacking in points, respec based on what you are prioritizing

[junior dune]

I wish we had a chart with a flat line for reaction right now

[frigid swift]

Lol

it may be useless but it st ill gives 4 seconds of dopamine atleast

[junior dune]

That's the best I found

[junior dune]

Dopamine is the reason we play idleon so not bad

[nova lynx]

Stiltmoles drop clouds I'll get the 400k I need as I farm hampters prob lol

[junior dune]

Are clouds the problematic ones?

It took me way longer to get ducks

[dense flax]

Wich gods should i pick for my ES?

2*

[junior dune]

I think you could guess this but it depends on your needs

I usually go arctis + purrmep for the 6x printing

[dense flax]

Dmg and arctic?

[junior dune]

Since es gets the largest samples as well it is the best way to get atoms without doot imo

[dense flax]

Is purrmep the tiger?

I need to get that next

[junior dune]

Yes but I meant harriep I think. It's the 3x printer output god that I use

Tiger is double divinity xp and points

[dense flax]

Alr

And what is arctic again

What does it do

[junior dune]

Arctis is always active in lab

[dense flax]

Ok

[junior dune]

And it also gives extra talent lvls which is great as well

If you are pushing with ES dmg and arctis is a good combo

[dense flax]

How much dmg should i have for w5 push?

[dense flax]

Ive seen that

[junior dune]

~30M for the boss

[dense flax]

That should be good

Is arctis good for push with dmg bc of always active in lab or +1.1 talent lvl bc. That +1.1 talent lvl doesnt seem great to me

But correct me

[junior dune]

Not great yet. I'm getting +16 which can be huge. If it's that low for you I'm guessing snake would be better in your case

Minor link bonuses are based on divinity lvl and a bubble you presumably haven't unlocked yet

[zinc torrent]

Arctis is good because you don't have to keep as many characters uploaded to still get bonuses from Lab Nodes and Jewels, which includes damage and kill boosts.
Your characters become more versatile

[dense flax]

How do i get more?

[junior dune]

Doesn't really matter for your pusher though

[frigid swift]

https://tenor.com/view/ekg-machine-heart-rate-flatline-cause-of-death-gif-17945538

it was just too fitting lol

[dense flax]

So then i should use the nake but what about the elephant, isnt he good too bc iam only lvl 227 on my ES

[zinc torrent]

I would also add that there still needs to be sufficient lab levels, so the characters can reach the further away bonuses.

My ES is a pusher who is on Arctis anyway, for 6x prints without having Doot pet, via Polytheism

[dense flax]

In lab i got to certified stamp book

[zinc torrent]

What are your lab levels?

[dense flax]

All around lvl 40 exept for my 1st and second character

And my ES 22

[zinc torrent]

That's pretty low.

If I was in your position, I would use ES as the main pusher and put everyone else in lab to get more lab levels.

As @junior dune previously described, use Polytheism to double link to Arctis and Harriep, for the 6x prints
You can then also farm Atoms for Alchemy and Atom Collider upgrades.

Put uploaded characters on Skilled Dimwit and a Skill Efficiency Card set to further boost lab leveling.

Put Bubo to the right of the other Characters and use Green Tubes to further boost Lab XP

[junior dune]

They won't be doing atoms yet

Just push to W6 with ES for now with most characters in lab with goat god. It will help you get the entire lab up, unlock more gods and get the minor divinity links up. Best gods for you when pushing portals is probably double kills from nobisect and snake for extra afk gains

[proud arch]

At what prints do people swap to atom pushing ? Was debating it now after my current prints. Getting 600m oaks

Almost at the 100m range for most vials

[zinc torrent]

Your prints are better than mine and I've been atom pushing for a while.

You're not at the point of Candying bubbles yet, but you can still do quite a bit with leveling Atomable bubbles.

What are your levels in the Atom Collider Atoms?

[junior dune]

I'm not great at strategy for that point of the games tbh but I would guess around 100m base prints

[proud arch]

I been focusing on getting at least 32 boron clicks a day

[junior dune]

Bubble 2 are great easy atom clicks

[proud arch]

Been letting my g mush push bubble 2 still

Went from 140-200+ last week

[zinc torrent]

What level do you have Boron at?

[proud arch]

Lots to boron it seems

[proud arch]

Not sure

11

Almost done the re print just need to do a vman run or 2

[zinc torrent]

Do you have King Doot pet?

[proud arch]

I wish

[zinc torrent]

Neither do I.

With Harriep + Arctis link on ES, you should be able to afford more levels in Boron.

For reference, my prints are ~70% of yours and I have Boron at lvl 17

[proud arch]

I assume 70% of my new prints not old ones ?

I gained 2.5-3x on my old ones and was focused hard on bubbles the last week

[zinc torrent]

My Oak Prints are at 495M base

[proud arch]

Mine was 199m prior to this sample

And 8m the week prior to last xD

[zinc torrent]

Yeah, your atom farming will speed up quite a bit.

Also, I got Boron to lvl 17 before that 495M print; my previous Oak prints were somewhere around 60M

[nova lynx]

I can't wait to resample 🥲 hoping I hit 100M oak at least

[grand scarab]

first page all lvel 30 😮

[pale plover]

man, those diminishing returns on gems from coolers are rly starting to kick in

[grand scarab]

except corn, working on that rn

[junior dune]

I guess this will be my next atom upgrade now...

[grand scarab]

oh corn falls off, i was scrolled down one, pog

only 2 months, not bad trial

[junior dune]

I still have cooking speed and upgrade lvls but they are getting expensive and not that useful

[proud arch]

I look forward to it. I got 2 bubos so Imma lab bound them so I got 3 sets of 600*6 oaks going

[junior dune]

More like 1 month with rising relic, printer go brr procs and slightly more cost reduction

[grand scarab]

tru

[fervent gate]

how tf do i get this guy out,

[proud arch]

Kunia with chain

Channel that Brooklyn rage

[grand scarab]

lol

[fervent gate]

ah

[junior dune]

You can get this drop on that floor. It's a kunai. If you equip it as you did with the nunchaku for breaking doors you will untie him

[fervent gate]

yes thnx

[zinc torrent]

You also have quite a few levels over me in W1-W2 Alchemy Skilling Bubbles; what levels do you have on Severapurple and Tree Sleeper?

Edit: Except Mage is Best; I have that at lvl 336

[dense flax]

What should i put in for my ES, i could maybe switch something with the sandwiches

[proud arch]

https://bobjoelol.idleonefficiency.com/ just incase

Hamster

[nova lynx]

Let me steal your account prog rq @proud arch

[proud arch]

You would lose a lot of w6 prog

[zinc torrent]

Coldseeker Bullets

[nova lynx]

Like skill-wise? cause only map prog i have is my recent push to mama trolls for magic beans.

With your alch you could prob get there way quicker than I did lol

[proud arch]

Yeah I'm only 2-3 weeks into w6

[dense flax]

Where do i get those?

[proud arch]

I'm at the breezy TD

My SB is around 3.6T

[zinc torrent]

Fire Spirits; spitfire is one of the ingredients.

If you're not that far, use Large Strength Potion or FMJ Bullet

[nova lynx]

So you're farther than me 🤣 but I'm def ahead in the w6 town skills. That won't last long. Being able to farm w6 mats for bubble prog and sussy stamps and what not should make you climb past me rather quickly

[proud arch]

In a couple weeks sure xD I only just got blue ess and sunflowers.

Surely you can Multiple as fast as I have in 2 weeks I was at 8m oak prints

[nova lynx]

Maybe by then I'll have finally resampled and maybe I'll be in the 100M+ oak log game 😄

I also need to go candy evryone to like lvl ~75 in every skill now for higher skill mastery buffs... err at least 50 for the +5% all skill eff

[proud arch]

Same xD

I got all the 500 unlocks and never finished

I get w6 fish in a few days hopefully

Hopefully the bribes as well

[zinc torrent]

Stable Jenius is fine for a while; put more levels in Mage is Best, Hocus Choppus, Le Brain Tools, Severapurple, and Tree Sleeper for better Oak Prints.

Also, where are you at with the Choppin Efficiency and Choppin AFK Gains from Cards?

[nova lynx]

The w6 bribes will take a long time. You prob need to hit m1 sneaking (rift 56) before ever getting there

[dense flax]

Crit chance or dmg?

[proud arch]

Crit chance

[zinc torrent]

Chance; consistency is key

[proud arch]

The goal is 200% Crit chance

Statues and the 2 talents do a lot of work

[zinc torrent]

Mega Crit

[proud arch]

Onyx statues are insane

[dense flax]

Dont have that

[proud arch]

Worth getting asap from dungeons

[nova lynx]

W6 bribes from jade is 2nd to last purchase. Which costs literally 10m times the amount of jade I've farmed top floor m0 (with 0% detect on 7 people) in the past 2 days 😦

[proud arch]

It makes a massive difference

[proud arch]

I am only getting the garbage bribes xD

[nova lynx]

I need to go buy rex rings and make them serrated for everyone too 🤣 i'm so behind

[proud arch]

I haven't even gotten boss kills unlocked in jade

[nova lynx]

When you get m1 you can farm gems which will make evrything grow exponentially, but I'm locked behind rift.

[proud arch]

Same xD

[nova lynx]

really just hoping these 3 don't take long (I'm half way to Tuttles jade-wise woot) to get since rift 56 will prob be a month+ out easy.

But maybe tuttle will help everything scale real fast

[dense flax]

Should i switch in the popsicle for one pickle to get for more crit chance?

[proud arch]

Probably not unless your active. Even then

Okay got vman to 222b 15x higher than my last speed run. Hopefully I can easy clear w3 so I can sample

[nova lynx]

make sure to sample at the end w/ void radius buff active

[proud arch]

Here's hoping xD

Had to respec D: will feel that later

Prior to the run in at 3.6m kph at gmush that's a good sign

[nova lynx]

I pulled like ~500k gmush sample and I sampled with I believe less than 10B dmg on vman

[pale plover]

is using the stingers for active bubo actually that big of a deal?

[stuck river]

Yes

[nova lynx]

Yes. having your char move around to place auras is how bubo can be so strong

[proud arch]

I was at 1.5m with only 2 bosses

[pale plover]

👍

[proud arch]

Back in my day we used a spear

[nova lynx]

just pulled 1.5m? nice