lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[dense forum]

So I can get done with

[glass marsh]

I farmed out the hotdogs today

Didn’t take long, 5 or 6 hours I think

[frigid swift]

I havnt farmed them yet. where were you farmin?

[grand scarab]

i get a pretty good amount of em at beans

[glass marsh]

I farmed them all at beans

[frigid swift]

yeh i figured. ill prob go back to beans eventually. im already sitting on 3m statues

[glass marsh]

Now onto w3 golden foods!

[warm trout]

worth to take?

[strong shale]

always if you dont have all enders

[solar seal]

considering it has loot, always

[grand scarab]

oh this is new on scoli too 😮

[strong shale]

😮

[pastel kayak]

The game does not load on my hotspot discord does

[hushed ember]

whats that site again i keep accidentally axe-ing that tab

[grand scarab]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

[hushed ember]

ty

[grand scarab]

np 🙂

[hushed ember]

mine aint updating despite uploading the whole ass raw json data from IE, its got my info from 13 days after i started the game lmao

[grand scarab]

😦

[woven ice]

How long does divinity and lab grind usually take cause I feel that I've had all my characters in lab since the start if world 4 and they still aren't at level 75 lab and 40 divinity

[stuck river]

I have 1 character at lab level 75 and every character aside bb at div level 40, it's been uh 4 months and 2 months with doot

Tldr a lot

[woven ice]

ok cool, I thought I was doing something wrong cause I always see account reviews and they say that lab/divinity grind takes like 3 weeks

but apperently I am not doing anything wrong

[stuck river]

I just existed in lab and didn't do anything else tbf

[hushed ember]

i mean it speeds up but it helps to focus on trying to get the artifacts that directly effect it since sailing and gaming are huge divinity bonuses

[strong shale]

@paper sail farming help on autoreview me dum need help

❤️

[grand scarab]

scolijuice, scoijuice, scolijuice!

ayy, 1 away from vial mastery

[frank prairie]

time to do my boss runs for an hour

[stuck river]

I'm at construction mastery

[oblique jasper]

Do all 3 obal purchases at the liquid shop have the same obol pool?

[stuck river]

No

[oblique jasper]

Where can I find the pool?

[stuck river]

Wiki

[oblique jasper]

Where? I didn’t find it in the alchemy or obol page

[grand scarab]

hell yeah, idk how much further ill push, just really setting up for statue farming rn

[cyan mantle]

Bjorn I'll be on soon

[oblique jasper]

Nvm I found it

[grand scarab]

feel like thats a good thing for me to do

like 35-40 hours away from clearing lanterns and finally having beans

[pastel kayak]

@grand scarab what map you in so me can stalk you?

[pastel kayak]

Not long got home

So can stalk people now

[stuck river]

I'm just not statue farming

[grand scarab]

fair lol

[pastel kayak]

@stuck river me can stalk you?

[grand scarab]

do it

[pastel kayak]

@strong shale I see you

[strong shale]

👀

[pastel kayak]

Have 57 green stacks now

I see you @grand scarab now

[grand scarab]

squish up there catching bugs 🪲

[bleak gazelle]

kek

[pastel kayak]

Nope was getting gains cause was gone almost 8 hors today @grand scarab

[grand scarab]

lots of gains hopefully

youre gonna clear lanterns before me 😦

[simple wadi]

I just hit 161. I'm thinking that maybe by world 7 I'll be able to get all of them for the dream.

[grand scarab]

so long x.x

[stable temple]

What cards do you use once you unlock passive cards from skill mastery? Just raw stat?

[bleak gazelle]

skill eff, skill afk, raw stat

[stable temple]

Skill eff is just chaotic troll, and skill afk is just chaotic amarok and bunny right?

[crimson thistle]

what i use

[bleak gazelle]

why is troll at 1 star

[bitter pasture]

hey its getting to take me too long to reach the final 2 islands for artifacts so i was thinking of switching my ships to farm for materials to lvl up my boats speed; how do i split them up to get materials efficiently?

[stable temple]

Alright thanks that's good to know. Skill mastery soontm

[pastel kayak]

See you @grand scarab on main this time

[bitter pasture]

or should i try getting the 3rd artifact tiers and go back to the first islands?

idk if it was soverigns or eldritch

[grand scarab]

are you almost done at lanterns?

[pastel kayak]

At mama trolls on main

[grand scarab]

oh damn, youre way ahead of me 😦

[pastel kayak]

How many green stacks you have?

[pastel kayak]

I have 57 and printing the mats I need

[stuck river]

I got 66

[grand scarab]

One day I’ll catch up to everyone, I’m trying 😦

[bleak gazelle]

i'd probably just go for eldritch tier. get tusk from first island and tablet from 4th island at least
can also use the mats from there to help upgrade some ships
and use IE/IT to upgrade ships along their breakpoints

[stuck river]

Im like ranked last against every people here in terms of statues

[grand scarab]

Gonna have to start getting up every 2 hours in the middle of the night instead of every 4 so I can catch up faster

[stuck river]

My archer can mega crit half the time without statues

[tranquil gorge]

Holy shit im in w6 and just found out the forge has a 2nd tab

[grand scarab]

lol

[crimson thistle]

it isnt worth it

[stuck river]

Upgrade second tab?

[grand scarab]

Internet glory is forever

[bitter pasture]

alright ty

[tranquil gorge]

Yeah lmao

[stuck river]

Jesus christ man

[stuck river]

How's your damage tho

[grand scarab]

About 110b in w6 without full damage on

[stuck river]

And why is my bm 60b damage higher than sb when my sb has timelrss

[crimson thistle]

dinkdonk

[solid cloak]

Should i trash captains that have only one trait?

[bleak gazelle]

if you can replace them with two traits, yes

[stuck river]

I can get up to 600b with maximum damage including multi gear

[whole lotus]

whats the max movement speed?

[grand scarab]

not bad

[stuck river]

Idk

[granite charm]

bro 💀

[grand scarab]

i should be there in a week or two if i stay at the same pace ive been on

[stuck river]

Visual cap is 450%

[stuck river]

I just don't have a pace at all

[cyan mantle]

Dms now

[bleak gazelle]

nah, visual cap is lower now, 270 or 350?

[compact harbor]

Hey guys i'm bout to candy on Snowflakes for the Yellow snowflakes
I should do it with my Vman (Wich I just got :" D) with 4 ish drop rate but 2 damage tier less than my ES that haves barely 2.1 DR?

[whole lotus]

slowly but surely 🥲

[stuck river]

My sb has 298% rn and it seems very fast

Without any statue bonus

[pastel kayak]

People I stalked today so far

[stuck river]

WHAT IS THAT BM GEAR

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle what I have in sneaking right now

[bleak gazelle]

damage tier/mk doesn't affect rare drops so i would go with highest DR and use any mob respawn earrings/gear if you have it

[whole lotus]

forget to give them better gear and tools :'3

[stuck river]

But
Its a vman

[bleak gazelle]

candy

[stuck river]

I just upgraded my bms weapon to diabolical

[stuck river]

Why not es active portal

[bleak gazelle]

could also check with your archers if you've got their tab 2 talent maxed

[whole lotus]

even my main doesnt have diabolical yet 😦

[stuck river]

Well that's my main technically

[whole lotus]

those salts are so painful

[compact harbor]

Mob respawning actually affects??
I always thougt they didn't
Just cuz I didn't see any change on AFK info

[whole lotus]

atleast i got atom collider done 😄

[compact harbor]

Oh right I didn't think of that, i'll check
But the point is just going with higher DR right?

[bleak gazelle]

if you swap to mob respawn while in the map, you'll need to re-zone in order to see the affect. though occasionally it may not change anything

[compact harbor]

Like, since I didn't see any change I thougt it was an active thing

[compact harbor]

Ooooh, ok

[stuck river]

I'm steadily producing 800 salt per 20 hours

[bleak gazelle]

the biggest thing about getting rare drops when afking is DR and base mob kills. the ways to affect base mob kills are respawn and then damage/movespeed if you're not at the cap

[whole lotus]

nullo?

[stuck river]

Yes

Construct mastery doubled my refinery speed

[whole lotus]

ohhhhh right you have that

[bleak gazelle]

yes, so vman is probably fine, but depending on how much you threw into the DR talent and what movespeed you have available, an archer could be equivalent or maybe better

[strong shale]

lets and i mean this solemly, fucking go

[stuck river]

Did I mention I upgraded my es axe from Lustre straight to marble

[whole lotus]

i got my 1mil print so yay

[stuck river]

I just did a 30m sample last night lmao

[whole lotus]

how much gmush you have killed btw

[compact harbor]

Vman is capped at 175 for now, is the max I can get him to
The other fastest would be the SB with 210 or smth like that, I'll check when I get in Game for the DR
Thx for the info

[compact harbor]

Btw does that mean that multi-kill does not affect at all rare drops? Or at least not so much?

[stuck river]

A bit more than a eclipse skull

1.1b I think

[whole lotus]

money coming good? im thinking of doing some gmush kills but idk 😦

[bleak gazelle]

Correct, MK will not affect anything except for first mob drop (top left)

[compact harbor]

Learned more about the game on the last few minutes than the last month I've been playing XD

Never really understand DR and drops shenanigans that well until now

Again THX for the help

[stuck river]

Very

It's uh enough to last me at least

[golden apex]

guys what was the mule packer list of items?

[bleak gazelle]

If you want a bit more in-depth explanation

[compact harbor]

Thx, I'll save this :}

[pastel kayak]

@strong shale I think I saw you in world 6 town and at mama trolls today

[strong shale]

ya, i have been farming so been in those 2 maps the past couple days

[pastel kayak]

Was not home today so only could stalk you this afternoon

[dreamy merlin]

What for?

[golden apex]

I swear I've only seen you stalking Lowgun the entire time i've been is this server

[bleak gazelle]

he's literally just been living there

for a week

[grand scarab]

low rn

[bleak gazelle]

ayo new highest cog. 70% jump

[pastel kayak]

I can stalk you if you want

[golden apex]

I have a gun

totally

[grand scarab]

lol

[pastel kayak]

In game I stalk people only

[golden apex]

but why tho

[past creek]

[golden apex]

it is also funny tho

[pastel kayak]

For fun me it is to stalk people

[dreamy merlin]

Can't stalk me

[golden apex]

So its a death sentance for people to say what server they're in because you just stalk them

[stuck river]

Gonna DNA splice her?

[stuck river]

Ofc she can't stqlk

[past creek]

But she can stalk

[golden apex]

i think sm is wrong with my neck

every time i move it forward it clicks

[dreamy merlin]

I mean most ppl here are cog 4

[grand scarab]

tru

[simple wadi]

I roam penguin 20

[graceful fern]

Lava 10 is my hometown

[dreamy merlin]

I used to just be wherever I was

Now I went to cog 4 bc why not

[stuck river]

I was in salt 3

[simple wadi]

That's a good hashira to represent with an attitude like that

[dreamy merlin]

Exactly why I picked him

[past creek]

[dreamy merlin]

Still wondering what zmdk meant

[past creek]

[compact harbor]

Golden Food don't count as Boost Food? (asking because of that one misc stamp)

[bleak gazelle]

correct, golden has specific golden food modifiers

[dreamy merlin]

I wish it did

Feasty would be even more op

[compact harbor]

X2

[compact harbor]

Imagine

[pastel kayak]

I take screen shots of the people I stalk them I leave again @golden apex

[dreamy merlin]

Still can't stalk me

[golden apex]

you should be on a hitlist

[pastel kayak]

No old man

[grand scarab]

thats a little extreme

[golden apex]

[pastel kayak]

I have about 3 alts in same level has you @grand scarab

[grand scarab]

not bad, this is my furthest char rn lol

just trying to get beans then going back to catching up again

[pastel kayak]

I have learning prombles so I just play allot plus I have perm nerve damage

@grand scarab might stalk you again soon or stalk @bleak gazelle this time

[grand scarab]

be stuck in this map all night, getting ready to sleep soon x.x

need to maybe figure out TDs tomorrow since slow roast is 5/5

[hushed ember]

i need to stop being lazy and re-do all my TDs now that i have lvl5 poisonic elder and i unlocked voidanator

[dreamy merlin]

Get 11/11

[dreamy merlin]

Boulder prob better than that poison

[grand scarab]

one thing at a time

[dreamy merlin]

I'll redo td once I get said 11/11

[grand scarab]

i need to figure out a strat with the tower levels i have

or just wait until i get a few more levels i guess

[dreamy merlin]

I'll do w5 and 6 sooner than that tho

[hushed ember]

once i unlock atom collider ill have space to upgrade literally anything else, in the meanwhile im still hard focusing on deathnote, storage space, and cost cruncher, thankfully i got the 5X speed construction gem this rotation

[grand scarab]

hard to follo the guides because i cant drop enough at the start to defend quick enough x.x

[pastel kayak]

Have 214 1 hour 63 2 hour 5 4 hour and 3 12 hour candy I think that is right

[hushed ember]

forreal

[pastel kayak]

I see you @strong shale in world 4

[whole lotus]

is it better to give all my character luster weapon first or give them luster tools?

[frigid swift]

lul

[dreamy merlin]

Do you mean tools for there skillijg or just tools for extra stats

[frigid swift]

guess i "finished" basic seeds

[whole lotus]

both i suppose?

[dreamy merlin]

No I mean for example, on a mage are you saying all 4 tools, or just axe

[whole lotus]

all 4?

or should i just go main luster and rest whatever highest i can get

[past creek]

Guy below

[dreamy merlin]

This sounds good

If you have the stuff Lustre is good to get on extras tho, but weapons better

[whole lotus]

and main tool vs main weapon which should i try to get first

okay will focus on weapons first ty

[dreamy merlin]

Unless you need dmg rn i would say main tool>weapon>side tool

[whole lotus]

thats fair too

[grand scarab]

yall actually got me out here doing td smh

[dreamy merlin]

I was against it

[past creek]

Haha i need to do td now

[dreamy merlin]

I'm not doing td again until I get lvl 11 slow roast wiz

[whole lotus]

what wave do you need for frosty TD so you can farm a decent amount of soul?

[grand scarab]

prob like 100+

[dreamy merlin]

Depends what you think is decent

[whole lotus]

enough so that i wont have to get stuck on crafting anything in anvil tab 3

[grand scarab]

this what mine is rn

[past creek]

Guy below is this good kph for pushing?i guess i need more multikill

[dreamy merlin]

I maxed vial with only 140 so I would say 100 is quite higj

[dreamy merlin]

Looks fine for afk ig, I haven't pushed so I'm a bad judge

[whole lotus]

i got void tower yesterday and was thinking if its a good time for me to push frigid soul a bit?

[dreamy merlin]

I assume your not doot haver?

[past creek]

No 😭

[dreamy merlin]

Good

[grand scarab]

were cookin boys

might pb this run lol

first time ever using slow roast tbh

[past creek]

Ayeeeee🔥

[grand scarab]

slow roast is so busted lol

[cyan mantle]

Bruh I can't cc at wurms they one tap me

[past token]

Guys, what stats should I need to rush w5, espexially in the boss path? The boss itself is only damage, but what about the path to it? I have a 5M damage ES I'm using to push.

[hushed ember]

how weak is your bubo? why not just burn a few candies and put em in a fancy suit of armor

[past token]

Wasn't ES better for path pushing?

[hushed ember]

talking to reaper

[past token]

I really have no idea though. Both have crazy damage.

[hushed ember]

i mean you can clear a lot but you'd need to look at a lot of things, if you want general help post your IE

[cyan mantle]

They do 12k damage I only got 9k health on bubo

[grand scarab]

welp, already a pb on this TD, just a matter of how far i can get

unlocking this would be hype but idk if i can get that far, is it useful?

[scarlet geyser]

Well that was quick. Just one 1% and I am already offered Sacrifice.

[worldly lagoon]

we did it team

[crimson thistle]

whats the damage bonus looking like

[junior dune]

1.14x or something

[crimson thistle]

thats kinda

[junior dune]

but unique multi so still alright

[peak verge]

did you buy oysters?

or just from drops?

[eternal wasp]

Ay nice

[golden apex]

I finally hsve my mouse back

i've been playing wwithout one for days

[grand scarab]

ayyy

up to 140b in full damage setup

[pastel kayak]

Go to bed now old man @grand scarab

[grand scarab]

about to :S

[worldly lagoon]

I bought all the things

[proud arch]

Is there anything I can do to prevent dysnc when using Es ? I think is massively slowing down my active statue grind

[whole lotus]

probably use dk instead? :"3

[proud arch]

W3 statues

[grand scarab]

less points in portal cut down on how bad it is for me

[tame kayak]

Dont buy more squishmallows

[cyan mantle]

Don't don't give me doot

[golden apex]

@pastel kayak is scary

[small sparrow]

guys, how to use the Cogtimizer ?

dead chat...

[river ore]

Do I need to have Doot equipped to have it active

[molten pilot]

whats the best summer event upgrade

[solar seal]

stamps

[molten pilot]

ty

[solar seal]

copy paste json, set appropriate weight for the 3 stats given your construction progress, set appropriate time for script to run (the later you are, the more time you should allot), then it'll give you step by step process to get to its final state

[small sparrow]

oh thx

[proud arch]

What does appropriate weight even mean xD that's so vague

[solar seal]

i.e. xp has most value so you can weigh it anywhere from 10-20x value of either flaggy or build. flaggy can either be some value or 0 if you have full board unlocked. you have to give the script some appropriate 'weight' for how much you value a stat compared to others so it can evaluate what is a better cog versus what isn't

[proud arch]

That definitely matters to know xD

Interesting I think my dr dropped when the island explorers package appeared. Wonder if game thought I owned it till now

Or my DK just has considerably lower dr then my ES

Or swapping to mobile did something. Went to check prices. Buying the package is $2 cheaper on Google Play than steam

[sand vine]

hello, any advice on bubo? my poison tick only 3m (when crit) and monster hp 35m, is it fine? or maybe i do something wrong with my build?

a lot of ppl said bubo will be main someday so ill try to develop it now and trying to push it until the end of w5 🤔

[proud arch]

It's just a matter of low damage at your stage. No Crit and low damage is why it's kinda weak

Also aura is your best DPS skill on bubo

[solar seal]

its not that bubo "becomes your main" - its just required to push alchemy to appropriate late stage levels. and its not an indefinite marker: you must be able to hit tenteyecle talent level 200 using talent library and other talent boosting sources

prior to 200 tenteyecle, bubo will be weaker compared to its counterparts - its just a matter of fact

[sand vine]

oh so i have to wait until tenteyecle 200 and then try it again later?

i see

still on 136 haha

[solar seal]

it is a world of difference between tent200 and not. anyone past this point can attest to it

[peak verge]

I can confirm. It went from like 8k seconds to 65k+ and perma up time auras.

[sand vine]

okay then ill go back to ES again for a while. thank you

[peak verge]

I took like 3 days of active bubo to get to big worms, got one shot and left back to the lab.

[solar seal]

it gets to a point, where even if you do'nt want to play bubo - you have to play bubo sometimes cause you need liquid for your bubbles

[peak verge]

Local man gets to his monthly resampling session.

And this is on shaman where I have 0 po boxes on chopping bc alchemy/lab go brr.

[oblique zinc]

Just unlocked! Have no idea what they do!

[peak verge]

Ayyy, congrats.

[teal lynx]

They skip time

[peak verge]

In theory they're just mini (or mega?) versions of the log but I've seen people stacking a lot of them for some reason.

[scarlet geyser]

I hope I don't screw myself by doing this for 2 days or so.

[teal lynx]

There is an Equinox dream to have 15 on your board at once
Other than that you usually have like 2-5 on board to do a "Chem Chain". Click Chem > Click Squirrel + Shovel > Harvest All + Sprinkler until you run out > Log > Harvest All + Sprinkler until you run out > Click Chem and start from the beginning

[oblique zinc]

Ahh gotcha. Mini log was a good description thank you!

[oblique zinc]

Awesome, thank you for the explanation! Appreciate it

[scarlet geyser]

Getting close...

[peak verge]

Tell me about it...

How well does this scale? Or how much is it worth investing into?

[scarlet geyser]

I can't be the only one getting frustrated by this...

[peak verge]

Dw, it's absolutely miserable for everyone at that point. ❤️

I only got the last plant yesterday after at least a month.

[solar seal]

its not that crazy, additive to pool as usual

[peak verge]

I've seen worse tbh. Worth the points.

The resampling results have no right to feel so good after the process itself feels so shit.

[paper sail]

Merlin has been putting Tiers together for AutoReview. We're working on it

[tranquil gorge]

Are the values shown in vial interface inclusive of bonus from vial mastery?

[heavy prawn]

Should be low on the priority list. Extra points only

[grizzled canyon]

Howdy does anyone know how much damage is needed for BB and VW to beat nightmare Kattlekruk? I'm going for the last achievement and tried searching it but most results say 100M unless you are playing BB or VW and doesn't give a definite answer how much damage those classes need to beat the boss 😅

[teal lynx]

The pins in here have a whole guide for the nightmare kill on Vman. The same honestly applies to BB, since they have similar AOEs

[grizzled canyon]

Cool thank you for this!

[tranquil gorge]

Im struggling to find enough sailing speed to get to islands 12+ in a good time, anyone able to tell me if im missing something obvious? https://mantissa.idleonefficiency.com (Hunting eldritch AD tablet for 2 weeks btw)

[heavy prawn]

Just farm the early islands to get more loot for more speed upgrades

[heavy prawn]

Also finish unlocking your boats and captain slots

[heavy prawn]

Your boats are really low level compared to island progress.

[tranquil gorge]

hmm ok ill just go and backfarm matts

Didnt feel like there was much point unlocking more bosts when i cant get the resources to upgrade them

[peak verge]

When were you supposed to resume Rift after unlocking skill mastery?

[solar seal]

what is rift mastery? please don't put ideas in lava's head

[proud arch]

More boats is good because even without mats you can LVL captains + use them for the first few island artifacts while your faster boats can push there limits

[peak verge]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[proud arch]

Also more trips = More sailing lvls = better find chance

[proud arch]

How else we gonna get infinite rift ;P

Weird demon genies only have 3 of 4 statues

[solar seal]

i don't think there's a generalized "do rift now/later" as people's damage varies wildly. i progressed in the following step fashion:
a) skill mastery (16 - 33M mob HP) in mid/late w5
b) eldritch artifact (31 - 6B mob HP) in early w6 - ideally around time you are at fury+
c) construction mastery (41 - 777B mob HP) in mid W6
d) sneaking mastery (56 - 264T mob HP) in mid/late W6

[stuck river]

Rift 31 for eldritch, rift 41 for construct mastery I think

[astral skiff]

In What ways i can increase my damage?

[peak verge]

Fair enough.

[peak verge]

Alchemy.

[astral skiff]

But there are only 3 baubles for incresing damage

Other than alchemy

[stuck river]

It's almost been half a year since I started this game, cool

[stuck river]

Alchemy

[solar seal]

Alchemy (bubbles 1,2,6,11,21,25), stamps, cards + card sets, star signs (bulwark, fiesty, overachiever), equinox (scims), meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, dungeon flurbos, clickers (W1 owl, W2 kangaroo rat), gear (including tools), and especially talents (booking for higher max level) are all sources of damage

[astral skiff]

Ty

[peak verge]

Speed dial FAQ doc

[bleak gazelle]

behold

[stuck river]

Isn't the tri bubbles 20 btw

[solar seal]

each world has 5 bubbles, bubble 20 is 5th bubble of w4

[stuck river]

Sorry I hallucinated and thought you meant bubble 21 was tri bubbles

[solar seal]

the tri's are 5th bubble of w5

[stuck river]

Yeah I can't math

Can only meth

[solar seal]

don't do that, daz no good for you

[sinful aurora]

No wonder you hallucinated

[tranquil gorge]

Should I bother crystal farming without choco chip at all? feels like my character is very gimped due to 0 statue progress in w6

[bleak gazelle]

depends on if your other stats are ready

• DR 10+ (cards/obols/po box)
• crystal chance (cards/po box/talent/shrine+chaotic chiz card) close to 1/60
• talent levels

choco will speed up statue farming about 4x, unsure about other things. so it's doable, just slower

[tranquil gorge]

DR is ~11x and got talents at around 250 on DK, what crystal chance should I shoot for?

eh fuck if its 4x faster I'll just wait the 50 or so more days

[bleak gazelle]

are your poop and demon genie cards 4* yet?

I feel like owl/roo quickref should have been part of the first MF reset

or hell even the last one

[nova lynx]

Maybe spelunking tribal men give us quikref to that shit

[tranquil gorge]

Im very close to 4* genie and poop is done

[nova lynx]

As a point of ref, I'm at 1/60 crystal chance (no choco) and power statues are still a slog on my DK. I'm at 11.58x DR (back to dice farming rn for sparkle dice grind). I got like ~3.5k statues in the last 8-9 hrs from overnight farm

By far way faster than any of my previous statue sessions. So I'd highly recommend the DR farm and card farm prior to attempting statues

[tranquil gorge]

Hmm im not sure how to pump my DR higher other than obols at this point really. I'll certainly wait for choco chip tho

[bleak gazelle]

your DR is fine, mostly just crystal chance could be better atm

po box is the only prohibitive thing for you atm since you can't farm pens easily

[tranquil gorge]

I maxed the DR box first.. Not sure if it was the best move but ive got all that

[frosty shore]

hi w5 dungeon fans, i hope to play with you guys again 12 hours later

[bleak gazelle]

is that 1/60 with 1 card doubler?

[bleak gazelle]

how's your chaotic chiz card and crescent shrine?

[tranquil gorge]

2* c Choz (2 off 3*) and shrine is lvl 12

[nova lynx]

No I have none of the good stuff 😦

[bleak gazelle]

oh that's perfect then, a realistic number for most people

how's your chaotic chiz and shrine?

[nova lynx]

Improvement

I just 4* chaotic like 2 days ago. Shrine is lvl 15.. so shrine might be a bit higher than most people entering this phase?

Stamp is 150 so also in a pretty reasonable spot.

[tacit lion]

do you have chaotic chizor card?

[bleak gazelle]

how far off from ruby cards are you in rift?

[worldly lagoon]

Cards need help

Should be 300

[bleak gazelle]

tell lava to fix the chip rotation then

rip automod

[nova lynx]

Err that message didn't send lol? wat. I'm grinding away rift 40/41, so still a bit away 😦 I have no MK in rift anymore

Cards are perfectly fine with what's available. Can't ruby yet and can't double cause lava

[tacit lion]

isnt it possible to still ruby a card if you buy it from gemshop?

maybe im wrong

[nova lynx]

I think you can but I'm not popping a ruby on one of those lol

[bleak gazelle]

i rubied my demon genie

[tacit lion]

crystal spawn chance is very worth it, specially genie

guess troll can be worth it as well

[lucid sentinel]

Prob gonna ruby my chaotic emperor when i get a cardifier

I have it 4stsr rn

[bleak gazelle]

i wouldn't waste a ruby on chiz unless you're whaling hard

[frosty shore]

just my pov

[nova lynx]

I was gonna pop ruby on troll or potentially emperor if I get any good drops from packs

[bleak gazelle]

only 55 cards after 4* to hit ruby

[nova lynx]

i have just one ruby

[frosty shore]

some cards are worth cardifying into ruby earlier because it would payback the gemcost via the effect early

[lucid sentinel]

Not chizoar on the w6 boss

I got a gold chaotic emperor and 4starred it a while ago

Itll prob give like 75% DR without doubling

[nova lynx]

regular emperor gives DR and I had the same - got 3* from packs and 4*'d it, but not blowing a ruby on it still I don't think

If i had card doubler I'd ruby demon genie 😦

[lucid sentinel]

Regular gives dmg doenst it?

[solar seal]

dr / dmg / mk/t - in order

[nova lynx]

I don't have chaotic is why I know I have DR card lol

[lucid sentinel]

O my bad i thought it said chaotic emperor

[nova lynx]

first sparkle

[lucid sentinel]

how do i have better obols

[full phoenix]

So I went from 10m to 15m max DMG on my ES I need 22m max DMG right? To beat kruk

[nova lynx]

I had very minimal/no DR obols basically a week ago... so that's how. Then I went and got magic beans and 15k/20k power statues for onyx in between

[full phoenix]

For me rn the other option is pushing my severely under leved Bubonic conjurer

[nova lynx]

Depends on a lot of other stuff. General consensus is hit ~30m sheet dmg (max) and book proper talents high lvl and respec to allocate points properly, then you should beat kruk pretty fast.

Bubo will not do anything to kruk with that noodle dmg

[lucid sentinel]

o, well is 18h library bad?

takes me a bit less to go from 0 to 20

[full phoenix]

'-'

[nova lynx]

Nah. I mean somehow my lib is 14h for 0->20 but anything under 1 day is good for me

[full phoenix]

T-T

So I need to double my DMG?

[lucid sentinel]

i have trash construction, i think the only reason i have decent checkotu speed is cuz my cooking is starting to pop off and i got a ton of lvls into fortune cookie

[full phoenix]

Again?

[nova lynx]

look at the pins. ES/DK are preferred for beating Kruk faster. Go work on other account systems (alch is prob what will boost you a lot if you haven't fully neglected easy wins from sailing and such). Without seeing your account stats - there are two big items for the w5 phase. Chiz helm and chiz scarf (pref upgrade but doesn't need to be). most other gear changes won't do much for you.

[lucid sentinel]

ES needs ~30m to kill kruk on full-auto

[full phoenix]

So I got the mage specific gear for nothing?

[nova lynx]

If all your gear doesn't have w5 stones in them, that could be hurting too. Make sure you have tools that are all slotted w5 stones (wis) to buff dmg as well.

Nah it's good for slab kek

[lucid sentinel]

at least with garbage talents, i didnt get have decent librayr speed until 2-3 days ago

[nova lynx]

yeah my cooking gains + farming new crop gains this last week have carried me hard.

[lucid sentinel]

does automation arm count as 20 for checkout takeout?

[nova lynx]

People have mentioned they think lava fixed it. Apparently long ago it didn't

[nova lynx]

Mage helm gives +30% crit dmg so unless you're critting all the time, this isn't that useful. Also ti doesn't change your sheet dmg which is all most people can give you references on w/o seeing your IE/IT. Chiz helm gives +15% total dmg and upg. chiz scarf gives +20% total dmg and I know I didn't have a ton of +% total dmg modifiers by the time I got to Kruk so those boosted my dmg a pretty solid amount.

[full phoenix]

Alr gotcha I will be back next week

[nova lynx]

But honestly look at your bubbles and do a little bit of skilling to get your ES some higher tier tools and w5 stone them. Purple bubbles 1, 2, and 17 and new tools/w5 stoning (if you haven't already) should boost your dmg pretty quick.

[full phoenix]

Is it smart to let you log on to my idleon efficiency

XD

I guess I could ss

[bleak gazelle]

They have this lovely thing here

Then you press the blue upload button on that page

[nova lynx]

No, you share your IE page.

[full phoenix]

Oh whoops

909kkll.idleonefficiency.com

[nova lynx]

gimme a hyperlink at least pls

[full phoenix]

Huh

How

[bleak gazelle]

https://909kkll.idleonefficiency.com/

[nova lynx]

Make it clickable, copy the full website

[full phoenix]

On sry ☹️

[nova lynx]

I'm just being lazy / pissy 🙂

[full phoenix]

It's fine 😀

You're helping me so it's fine XD

[nova lynx]

You have 40 books in the library

[gloomy crescent]

A scholar

[nova lynx]

What's your max book lvl? I'll give you a quick summary of what pops out to me

[pale crag]

Small number

[full phoenix]

127

For any book

[bleak gazelle]

go work on your w3 merits for higher book level

[full phoenix]

I may or may not have underestimated every aspect of idleon besides divinity,lab and combat

[nova lynx]

Every system is useful in idleon

[full phoenix]

I kind of Understand that now that I have to double my dmg

[nova lynx]

Your gear needs to mostly be remade/upgraded and stoned properly with w5. Don't put str on your pickaxe, your ES will never actually mine except for exp gains to use new tools. Go fill out every tool slot you can and slot with w5 wis stones. Upgrade from efaunt gear - go make dem legs/pants.

Why do you have +30 str on your wizard chest? 😦

[bleak gazelle]

it's...potentially possible to do it around 22m, I think one person did it but it took them an hour of active fighting and they probably had higher talent levels

[nova lynx]

and +20 agi on staff?

[fervent marlin]

guys if i have 10 guys on this, would that mean that everyone is gettign 10 exp per hour?

[full phoenix]

I needed acc

Don't judge me

[nova lynx]

Big time dmg for ES. Go book the tab 4 and paperwork (tab 3). Then do stuff to boost your MP for overclocked energy.

[bleak gazelle]

!mantra Though I don't recommend it until you've unlocked at least Goat and Ideally Purrmep, too

[obtuse orbit]

Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.

In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.

(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)

[nova lynx]

agility is acc for mage. str does nothing for mage except basic str stuff 😦

[nova lynx]

these 3 also boost dmg

[full phoenix]

I did an oppie on that one

[nova lynx]

You did str on your void axe too though.

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle got all of them now what to do now with it?

[nova lynx]

If you just restonedyour gear and filled your tool slots, you'd prob add 250-300 wisdom alone which is huge for where you're at (your ES has 1600).

[bleak gazelle]

yuge

[proud arch]

Get 15 in prep

[full phoenix]

It was a pass down

[proud arch]

It's time to pass it away xD

[bleak gazelle]

the general idea is to wait until it hits T5 then use it to reset log, but that might be difficult unless you've got enough speed

[fervent marlin]

im still stuck at this insect looking fella

[full phoenix]

I don't have the level on any other skill for my ES except for wood cutting I think

[bleak gazelle]

so most likely, for now. just use them when you hit t3/t4 to get a bunch of plants/bits to upgrade

[nova lynx]

Your stamps are hugely neglected. I won't even comment further on this. Esp seeing the "paperwork" talent on tab 3.
Like I guessed, your purple bubbles are poop. How is bubble 1/2 the same lvl as bubble 17? Go pump 1/2 up and you'll also see big gains.
Blue salts should start going into salt lick for higher book.
Your w3 merits are out of whack in prio, but focus on max talent book from now on. This is prob the best purchase from w3 and you saved it for last/2nd to last.

[bleak gazelle]

Yep, so I'd probably just keep everyone on Focus until at least Goat so that you can move your people back to lab and work on both lab/div at the same time with goat. After that, kind of up to you, I like to advise going for Purrmep on Focus style (maybe swap one person to Vitalic) because the bonuses from Purrmep are huge

[proud arch]

How much speed for that xD

[pastel kayak]

No log @bleak gazelle

[nova lynx]

@full phoenix honestly to be more linear/straightforward, have you use Scoli's auto review? https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ Copy your JSON data (from IE) in there and it'll break down a bunch of different milestones for you. Don't have to follow it exactly, but it shows you where your big gaps are (most of what I pointed out)

[bleak gazelle]

no log yet yeah, just wait for like t2/t3 and use it then

[bleak gazelle]

eh, you'd have to ask some of the other folks in here, i don't remember what my Fert speed said back then

[full phoenix]

Uhm I tried but idk how to go to detail in it

[nova lynx]

My speed is ~6min w/ Kitsune on and my t5 chems grow pretty quick when they hit. I wasn't doing kitsune until bjorn and edvin berated me into it over the weekend

[full phoenix]

It just says t1-T2 stamps

[nova lynx]

Yeah then you click on stamps and it tells you what to go find/upgrade to achieve the next tier.

[full phoenix]

Oh

[nova lynx]

At the top it should show you categories like "early w2" then list stamps under it or something

[full phoenix]

Whoops

[flint belfry]

Need 2 peoples for doot : i'm warrior

[simple wadi]

World?

[flint belfry]

pizza 18

[simple wadi]

Just need a mage now

[flint belfry]

Yes need a mage and doot !

[paper sail]

Yes I check for:

1. already owned (storage or character inventory)
2. quest items that could be reclaimed from completed quests
3. could be crafted
4. could be dropped in dungeons
5. bought from a vendor

[flint belfry]

Let's see ifsomeone come

[grand scarab]

gmgm 🙂

got half a mill kills wihle i was sleeping, not the worst, wont take too long

[nova lynx]

Soon you'll have OG

[tranquil gorge]

Will more efficiency get me more resource card drops per hour? or is it just speed that matters

[bleak gazelle]

pretty sure it's just speed as long as you're at 100% eff

(card) DR too, of course

[grand scarab]

christ... this shit gonna take me like 3 days lol 😦

yay

[pallid gull]

BUNNI!!! 🚬

[tranquil gorge]

Are tree card drop rates just abysmal? Ones in w5 onwards seem to be 1/1m +

[grand scarab]

Think if I just sit on lanterns all day/night I can have beans when I wake up tomorrow

[timber kayak]

Yo is divinity impotant

[zinc torrent]

Maple Logs Card is 1 in 100k
Dandielogs Card is 1 in 200k

The really abysmal drop rates are the W6 Choppin Cards; Bamboo and Effervescent Log Cards are supposedly 1 in 100M (don't know how accurate the wiki articles for those are)

[frank prairie]

With dk?

Make sure to have the kill per kill talent max

[frank prairie]

Book it

Your dk has 9k strength

Oh no points left lmao

[grand scarab]

yeah... lol

[frank prairie]

What’s your kph

[grand scarab]

rough math says like 90k ish?

was at 2.5m before i went to bed, slept for like 6.5 hours or so, got 500k kills

this is what afk window is tho

[dusky sapphire]

Is ES best char to use for rare drops from rift? I want to try and do rift challenge 2, but wondering if my drop just isn’t high enough…

[grand scarab]

should be at 1m orb kills tonight/tomorrow 😄

[zinc torrent]

Rare Drops from Rift is more a matter of persistence and killing monsters as fast as you can.

I've done some of those with ES, but also did just fine with the other mob respawn classes.

Give it a go to test the waters and see how long it takes you; you have 1 hr to get 3 Rift Tears IIRC

[dusky sapphire]

But, they WILL drop with ES, right? Cuz I was told ES is better at farming regular drops from mobs, not the rare drop tables.

[zinc torrent]

Rift is different; Rift Tears can drop with any character

[dusky sapphire]

Oh cool

Thank you!

[teal lynx]

ES is best for everything that drops from a Mob. That also includes the rare drop table

BUT most items in the rare drop table also drop from Crystals -> Crystals are killed by DK and are easier to get that way
Exception for such a rare drop that doesn't drop from Crystals would be the Accuracy statue from Wood Mushrooms in W1 -> That's where we use ES

[frank prairie]

Afk gain rate up

I did it with 200%

[grand scarab]

im not afking it

[nova lynx]

ooh looks like I hit that overnight 😄 didn't even notice

[frank prairie]

I think the kph still add to it

[dusky sapphire]

This is so incredibly helpful, thank you.

[grand scarab]

adds kph to active?

[frank prairie]

I think a certain amount

[zinc torrent]

The Rifts don't have Drop Tables in the classic sense, but AFAIK, Drop Rate will still help you

[grand scarab]

so theoretically, since im not hitting mk anyways so phoenix arent doing much, watch would potentially be better?

[compact harbor]

I think getting Vw bugged my character
Every portal from Gelatinous Cuboid onward re-closed I thougt it was visual issue but when I teleported the portal was closed and needed kills again

[frank prairie]

yeah

[bleak gazelle]

if you're fully active than the afk% won't matter

[grand scarab]

ahh, yeah, fully active

[zinc torrent]

On your VMan or your other characters as well?

[compact harbor]

I haven't checked but my Vman was the one I killed the boss with when it was a Maestro

[frank prairie]

Guess you just need your kpk up

[zinc torrent]

VMan's portal progression is tied to the furthest reached in one of your other characters.

At the point of VMan, you stop pushing portals altogether, and then just use Void Speedruns to adjust VMan's map progression as you get further on other characters.

You should still have W5 unlocked though, if you already beat Troll with Maestro

[wintry elbow]

checking the afk screen wont really tell you much about how many kills youre going to get active, especially since we have respawn mechanics. The only thing you can really check in that screen the will influece active kph is the MK tier

[grand scarab]

yeah, im aware, was just posting for refrence

[bleak gazelle]

so close

[scarlet geyser]

Blood Berserker: "What is a respawn mechanic?"

[compact harbor]

Ooooooh
So, Since he was the only one that I pushed to the boss now I just have him at Cuboids since it's the most far I got on other characters?

Didn't know that

[zinc torrent]

I learned that the hard way when I first got VMan

[compact harbor]

Welp
X2

[zinc torrent]

I also first beat W4 with Maestro, before VMan was released IIRC.
If I had to do it all over again, I would have beaten W4 with ES first

[bleak gazelle]

Honestly, most folks are halfway through W5 before getting vman now, some are even waiting till w6 😅

[daring oar]

I can finally instant gaming time to get that last mutation now

[compact harbor]

Well, since he doesn't need to push portals where do I leave this guy besides leveling?

[zinc torrent]

Skilling

[compact harbor]

Oh, skilling right

[bleak gazelle]

remember that skilling is damage for vman

[grand scarab]

would this add kills if im not on mk?

[bleak gazelle]

dang look at this guy

[compact harbor]

I got 9/10 card slots and 2 richellin kitchen
Can I spare to buy one preset after getting 10/10 slots? Or are there other stuff I should prob buy?
Still haven't touched W5 store, well yeah I bought a Divinity upgrade but besides that

[zinc torrent]

Third Richelin Kitchen; last one that can be upgraded with relatively easy to farm spices

[bleak gazelle]

I think two is fine with all the other speed bosts, honestly. And with NMLB being a thing

[compact harbor]

Ok

[bleak gazelle]

The QoL that another preset offers can be nice, especially if you only have 2 atm

[compact harbor]

There's a NMLB?

[zinc torrent]

Two is fine, though the third is not much more demanding with spice requirements

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, you get +1 from W6 Jade Emporium and then another +2 from the Sacred Methods bundle if you buy it

[plucky gull]

is divinity exp influenced by the royal sampler?

[bleak gazelle]

Divinity is only affected by explicit Div modifiers
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=(divinity (gain|for|points))%7C(gives.*divinity)

[plucky gull]

thank you

[frank prairie]

rank 13 red salts aquired

[compact harbor]

I was thinking of candy my way to W5 boss but I got barely about 4-6K Kph
Currently at the Orange's map

[frank prairie]

so nice having a fast refinery

[bleak gazelle]

kph is fine, you'll get more candies, real question is what's your max sheet damage and if you can kill the boss

[compact harbor]

Max dmg is 23-24M with ES

[bleak gazelle]

I'd try and bump that up a bit more before candying. Ideally to 30m, unless you want to spend an hour on the boss

[proud arch]

Your about to hit a slow than faster period tho 😛

[daring oar]

how much time do the chemical plants give you?

[compact harbor]

Tbh I don't mind the time XD
But still I will try

[bleak gazelle]

the square of whatever tier they're at. So 1, 4, 9, 16, etc
Ideally you want to wait for T5 for chem cycling since that will reset your log. Though if you're at instant gaming than that's less important

[compact harbor]

Btw is it normal that all monster cards on my Vw say 2M?

Like, 2M kills

Even green mushroom wich CLEARLY doesn't have just 2M kills XD cuz I wouldn't have Vw

[frank prairie]

you guys think cheaper to reroll silver drop obols and make new ones to fix my dice

[grand scarab]

probably lol

[proud arch]

I just did silvers if it downgrades I used them as upgrade fodder as you only need 1 good on the west slot

[simple wadi]

Cheaper? Of course, you know it will be. But is it worth your time compared to other activities?

[frank prairie]

Im farming w2 mobs for greenstacks so its just an extra drop for me rn

[proud arch]

Only takes like 1-2 hours for even the p2w obol slots to fill

[frank prairie]

I got the golds on my family page fixed lmao

[grand scarab]

now fix the rest of em

[frank prairie]

these 2 literally cant drop

fuck that sigil one

[grand scarab]

what else did i need besides bunny to push the next spices Edvin?

do i need the alchemic or whatever?

[frank prairie]

alchemic makes it faster but more rng

[grand scarab]

ah, so technically i can push now with what i got?

[frank prairie]

yeah but it might just take a really long time

[grand scarab]

Ahh, lame, I’ll do it a different day then, I still need to figure out how to get the w5 spices going lol

[frank prairie]

when i had alchemic i basically unlocked 6 spice areas in like 30 min lmao

but i had to retry like 10 times

okay I really need kruk keys - ES ,DK or bubo?

[junior dune]

https://tenor.com/view/donkey-kong-dk-gif-12545969

[proud arch]

O gosh I only got 2 more sections left and I jump to w6 in idle review D:

[junior dune]

ES may be good as well but DK gives a ton of other good stuff as wekk

[proud arch]

ED also causes nutty dysnc so abuse it

[frank prairie]

should i run midas on if i cant 1shot the crystals?

[proud arch]

Bubo best place to get water is wurms. BM is also an option for shiny stuff if you got the buffs done

[junior dune]

Yep, but a lot slower and I suspect Edvin could use some grilled cheese

[daring oar]

its gaming time

[proud arch]

How many Kruk keys needed anyways ? I gotta get me a scarf still

[frank prairie]

these?

[proud arch]

Golden ones

[junior dune]

These

[proud arch]

Beanstalk 10k 100k and few thousand for everyone

[frank prairie]

yeah i have the 10k in beanstalk

[junior dune]

I have one of these stacks for everyone since they are just so good

[junior dune]

Should redistribute so I can get 200k on everyone

[frank prairie]

my daily boss run gem grind

[junior dune]

That's more than 300 kruk kills

[frank prairie]

3 days i think

hording so i dont spend it

[junior dune]

Ah makes sense

[frank prairie]

need to get jewels for 3 more weeks and im done buying jewels

[limber gust]

when should i consider encouraging snail?

[daring oar]

my nuggets are all over 1k and I only got a 43Kx I hope I get a Huge one

[compact harbor]

What's on the "Spaded Box" on gaming? The 3M bit one

[limber gust]

So not until lvl 14. Hmm ok

[frank prairie]

big @grand scarab

makes up for my bad obols lmao

[grand scarab]

hell yeah

[bleak gazelle]

owo

[stoic silo]

is there a vman sample guide anywhere?

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, byproduct of speedrun and how lava made it open portals

[grand scarab]

this door was so fast to break lol

[frank prairie]

im fixing my pop obols so you guys stop making fun of my bronze ones

[grand scarab]

lol

[mystic minnow]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.

[grand scarab]

chats dead today 😦

[scarlet geyser]

Okay, am putting pushing to W6 Mama Trolls on pause, gonna do some more Obol grinding on Sandy Pots...

[grand scarab]

prob good idea

[frank prairie]

so close

welp i put my dk on worms and i leave for the day

if my obos were not so cooked i wouldve had 14

[bleak gazelle]

Sorry, too busy getting promoted

[grand scarab]

ayyyyyyy

damn, its all coming together for you rn bud, thats so awesome, congrats

[bleak gazelle]

signed and dated for 9/16, raise will be on first paycheck at the end of september. just in time to pay for this new place

[crimson thistle]

do i need vrumbies to be jeweled to get 8 of them from one card?

[bleak gazelle]

pretty much

[grand scarab]

thats so hype

more disposable income for doot rolls

[bleak gazelle]

gotta go buy my league T1 worlds skins first

[grand scarab]

lol

i havent played league in soooooo long x.x

[crimson thistle]

its so bad lol

[bleak gazelle]

honestly, i don't play much anymore, but i've followed this iteration of T1 since 2021

and was super invested in '22 and '23

[grand scarab]

another one of these fucking things lol

yeah, i was a beta tester lol, i played pre-release and for a while after release but that was about it

i wonder where all my pics i got with the pros went lol

had pics with like reginald, saintvicious, hotshotgg, all those dudes kek

[rapid locust]

with gaming, is it worth sinking bits into the sprout evolve per cycling %?

[grand scarab]

next floor unlocked 😄

[rapid locust]

Mine hasn't moved from 19.4% in like 10 buys

[grand scarab]

honestly not far off moving up to the next level, at like 40% detection

if i go farm a few more higher level bombs i think i can just camp that floor

[strong shale]

Isnt that the lotus floor? Id stay here

[grand scarab]

even with that high of detection?

[strong shale]

Even at 40 detect, youll be able to lotus/bomb

40 is decent tbh

[grand scarab]

tru, i guess if i get a few early lotus itll drop quickly

[strong shale]

Yea

[grand scarab]

drop bombs for lotus correct?

[strong shale]

If you can hold 2 yeah

[grand scarab]

no double charms yet

[strong shale]

Otherwise just do bomb/lotus

[grand scarab]

ahh, gotcha

17b more jade to unlock this then ill send em up and see how it goes i guess

made my own guild lol

[bleak gazelle]

livin the alt life?

[grand scarab]

nah, this is my main kek

havent even thought about starting an alt yet lmao

[bleak gazelle]

man, don't gimp yourself in a new guild then

[grand scarab]

meh

im not to a point where its that massive of a difference rn anyways, ill level it up eventually xD

i do miss the upgrade stone chance but meh

llama kinda cooking in this vod from yesterday

[teal lynx]

20 minutes late, but oh well

It isn't bad, but I would buy it when you can get the bits for the upgrade in a few minutes of chem chaining
I usually upgrade it when it costs around 100x less than the base bit fertilizer upgrade

[grand scarab]

oh shit, thats good to know

ive been keeping my evolve up with everything else lol

[lucid sentinel]

i think im at superstack or im right after it

[spark grail]

How many rounds do I need to win?

[haughty flower]

so i thought 'passive' cards stacked for each character they were equipped on but i guess thats not the case? can someone explain to me how they work?

[grand scarab]

theyre just passive buffs

[haughty flower]

once u unlock the 'skill card passive' thing from rift- does that mean i never have to equip those as well?

[grand scarab]

correct

[haughty flower]

im a moron, lmao

[grand scarab]

lol

[teal lynx]

200 gives the last bonus so you are done already

[haughty flower]

what do u use for skill cards that arent passive if you dont mind me asking

something like this?

[grand scarab]

pretty much, do you have bunny?

can use that unless you already have mastery for trapping cards done

[haughty flower]

is that an event?

[grand scarab]

nah, trapping card, wasnt sure if you had it unlocked as passive or not yet

[haughty flower]

my other trapping cards are unlocked as passive but not that one

[remote rose]

what determines how much scaled efficiency a character gets from nobisect? eg my warriors only get 900 while the rest of my characters get 2700. They are all lv 19-20 in divinity lvl

[grand scarab]

it scales down the higher your skills are, its a catch up mechanic

[grand scarab]

not sure on that one lol, still havent finished getting my trapping cards to passive yet

[compact harbor]

When should I throw my BB to the kitchen?

Like, with chows and all that, when does it get good enough to let him rot in there?

[bleak gazelle]

i'd say minimum 1k ladles/day

[haughty flower]

so like, this is probably alright then

[bleak gazelle]

and that's bare minimum

[compact harbor]

Ok

At least I got the rings already

And the boots

[grand scarab]

looks pretty close to me, prob some things you could swap out that might be a bit better but youd have to ask someone better than me lol

[strong shale]

Farming :3

So fun

20s growth cycles before even 100k crops on basic

Able to stack 1k crops within like 30s on every crop in 4 plots

[grand scarab]

i swapped all mine back to basic seed to work on day market x.x

you stack more crops in 30 seconds than ive collected total since i started w6 lol, crazy

[strong shale]

Once you push caulifish and the turtle vial, id say push bulbo/sushi youll get a ton of exp

[grand scarab]

this hour and a half grow time is dog

[strong shale]

Yeah its tough

[grand scarab]

i need to go get a caulifish print today

[strong shale]

Literally i send 4 messages in here and this is what happens

[grand scarab]

wild

[strong shale]

Like how can i keep up

[grand scarab]

be like me and sleep at the computer

fucking did it again last night lol, i made it back to my dk this time before i fell asleep in the chair though kek

[strong shale]

These will be my speeds later tonight =3

1.5s on basic

[grand scarab]

jesus lmao

[nova lynx]

Bare minimum? I’m doomed.My bb is trash lol he’s cooking like 400 ladles/day and been camped there for a couple week

[bleak gazelle]

go work on chows instead?

[nova lynx]

Think I’m just missing like half w4 and then w5 😦 my guy is just broken

[scarlet geyser]

Should probably get around to getting the Stat Graph stamp from W2...

[oblique jasper]

Naaaaah

[grand scarab]

any further ways to decrease tower cost in td outside of leveling them up?

[oblique jasper]

I think there’s a meal for it

[bleak gazelle]

don't think so, just cannoli to increase points gained?

[oblique jasper]

Or gives extra money I forgot

[grand scarab]

damn, lame, just running into the issue that my towers are just a bit too low to follow the guides so theyre a tad to expensive to get enough dropped initially

guess ill just wait another week and get a few more tower levels and see what happens

[strong shale]

Still worth to try and get as close to the guide as you can

[junior dune]

Salt lick as well

[strong shale]

If it asks for .35s krakens, make less krakens/frozone and more party starters

[bleak gazelle]

oh right, always forget about salt

[grand scarab]

got salt maxed on that pretty sure

[scarlet geyser]

...I got this on a 0.2% chance.

[strong shale]

Hell yeah!

1 more

[grand scarab]

now spam .1% research and get chem knocked out 😄

[scarlet geyser]

Will this help towards the next unlocks, whether bit-wise or otherwise? Probably not.

I want to unlock Pong.

[grand scarab]

evergreens give hella bits

[compact harbor]

I'm like 1 day from getting 10th character, don't know what to do with it
I'm currently with double DK and double BB

[grand scarab]

oof

[strong shale]

2nd es probably

[scarlet geyser]

Here is hoping I actually get Evergreens.

[strong shale]

Technically you can get 4 more log slots for a higher bit multi

[grand scarab]

oh tru

[strong shale]

but

Still a gain :p

[scarlet geyser]

Every little bit helps.

[strong shale]

bit

I get it, funny

[scarlet geyser]

Pun not intended

[strong shale]

Xd

[compact harbor]

What's the use of 2 ES?
Like, i'm not doubting that's the way to go cuz I've seen people doing 2 DK, BB and ES
Just don't know the use of the 2nd ES XD

Besides logs and divinity...?

[solar seal]

"besides logs" - you are highly undervaluing what logs mean in this game

[compact harbor]

Didn't mean it like that XD

[grand scarab]

before and after msa jade emporium upgrade, not bad gains

[solar seal]

atom collider provides some of the strongest and most broken upgrades while simultaneously being some of the most expensive. 'just logs'

[strong shale]

Is 2nd sb that worth it in the grand scheme of things?

[grand scarab]

wonder if i should just start pumping hp and try to push summoning now that im close to sussy

[strong shale]

Or is it just so you don't get screwed later

[solar seal]

are you asking me to roast this question? cause i will

[grand scarab]

i mean, you need a fuck load of godshard bars lol

[strong shale]

Oh right

[grand scarab]

LOL

[strong shale]

Godshard xd

[solar seal]

I CANT

[grand scarab]

lmfao

[strong shale]

Theres no space old man

[grand scarab]

gotta also assume w7 is going to scale even harder

[strong shale]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-you-do-fellow-kids-steve-buscemi-30rock-fellow-kids-one-of-us-gif-21904018

[solar seal]

smh ICANT my head atm machine

[strong shale]

LOL

Atm machine that you put your pin number in

[solar seal]

logan's question side tracked me completely. i was going to answer this. 2 things:
a) there's a lot of 'starting points' bonuses you are likely missing to make this easier
b) you aren't meant to be able to drop everything - even at my point, i put down my void, 2-3 dps towers, 1-2 control towers, and then start dropping/pumping party starters until i have all of them. and even then i might not get my last party starter down until like wave 30+

[strong shale]

What a diva, blaming me

[solar seal]

for a second, i thought you had been hacked cause you didn't see value of 2nd SB

[strong shale]

Kaito you dont think im a girl right

LMAO im not smart im telling yall

[solar seal]

why would i think that? i know your real name

[strong shale]

Idk ask reaper he thought i was a girl 🤣

[solar seal]

kek, cause of your pfp?

[strong shale]

I hide behind a cute vtuber, i guess so :p

Edvin said he sounded 14

[solar seal]

i mean, he is 16 so its about right

[strong shale]

Yeah

@icy stone my farming is gonna be at 1s growth cycles, are you happy with my farming yet

The farming growth era im having is fun

[solar seal]

you are close to reaching the first 'stopping' point

[grand scarab]

hell, i just cant wait to hit the starting line lol

another one 😄

[strong shale]

Ill prob do 2 more resets, 1 before pink glassy and 1 after

Then pump bubbles most likely

[solar seal]

if you can hit 25% to cap super gmo, then ~2.0 evo and 25% speed gmo - you are cruising. then you can plug your numbers into hotair sheet to figure out what to set your land rank production at so you can your points around

[ionic dock]

So uhh how the fuck am i suppose to get all sovereign artifacts they are all 0.01% -0.02% for me

[rapid locust]

with the atom collider, is there a detailed explanation on how exactly it works? like my log output is pretty good but I never seem to get more that 4k atoms after days of saving

[solar seal]

New artifact find sources in W6 are: turtle vial (52% before vial mastery), killroy prime (dependent on how many skulls you spend), sneaking pristine charm (1.4x), Ender Captains unlock through Jade Emporium (1.25x/captain), Artifact Attraction lab node unlock through Jade Emporium (1.5x), and Pure Opal Navette lab jewel unlock through Jade Emporium and 1400 account wide lab level (1.10/1.15x to all lab node/jewel bonuses).

[solar seal]

make sure your settings are 1050 and off - 10M of any resource over your cap = 1 atom

[ionic dock]

So what was ur highest chance for normal chest

Cause i have most of these and its still 0.02% ish

[solar seal]

on lantern island at the end, i believe i was ~0.02-0.03

[ionic dock]

And for other ones? Mine all the same 0.02% starting from snow island

[solar seal]

up through lightning island, sovereigns are easy - then the difficulty skyrockets - everyone goes through this shock

[rapid locust]

it's set to 1050 but I turn the collider off?

[simple wadi]

Fooking finally passed 19

[solar seal]

you turn it on only to set it to 1050, then you turn it off - because it will still make atoms above 1050 as this is the baseline default condition. you want to set it like this so you have 2 levels of protections to not suddenly nuke your storage accidentally

[rapid locust]

ahhh ok that makes sense

[strong shale]

Is 25% really the cap on super gmo?

I was planning on 2.25x og/evo and the rest into super

Wild, thought super went above like 100%

[solar seal]

2.25 evo is very expensive. jsut do 2.0 for now and get 160 unlocked

[strong shale]

Yea

[rapid locust]

I was trying to get some mega sample of the green caps with my vman but it kept giving me a message about dropping the sample but it would let me resample everything else

[strong shale]

Just gotta hit a mob before you sample

[rapid locust]

was hoping to get more sample production for the atoms\

[solar seal]

sometimes you need to kill 1 mob and sample. itcan bug out

[rapid locust]

umm I thought I was hitting them but maybe it wasnt counting for some reason, I rarely do speed runs

[strong shale]

Do you have a reference to the maxes in night market kaito?

Or you just heard super is 25%

[solar seal]

EXP caps at 100% as well

[strong shale]

O

I guess the game is a good reference lol

Speed gmo becomes your end game then eh?

[solar seal]

pretty much. enough evo to get to 160 w/o needing extra help from land ranks, then pump speed and og chance

[strong shale]

Gotcha

Mind showing your night market?

[pastel kayak]

@strong shale I saw in world 6 town

[strong shale]

Always in w6 town

[pastel kayak]

Was getting crops before went to green mushrooms to farm coolers for the day

[ionic dock]

Whats gmo?

[grand scarab]

genetically modified organism?

[solar seal]

night market terms/upgrades for farming

[grand scarab]

so glad i keep finding these instead of a lotus, super cool

[unkempt fable]

Gaming question: i've got the pet rock import that gives 0.25x growth cycle time and 0.33x bits yield, is this the point where i should be weeding out the basic sprouts and letting everything else grow to maximum evolution stage?

[grand scarab]

have chems yet?

[unkempt fable]

not yet, still haven't unlocked those at the mutation menu

just those and pine trees left

[grand scarab]

id personally say dont worry about going for all the evos until you get chem plants

[pastel kayak]

I got them all unlocked now @grand scarab @strong shale

[grand scarab]

worth using some of these to fish for lotuses?

[solar seal]

what's your detect rate?

[crimson thistle]

+20m without being semi optimal

[grand scarab]

mid to high 40s :/

[scarlet geyser]

Gonna be honest - I am seriously tempted to burn some gems on a few eggs just to go over to level 40 Breeding, but I am probably gonna need eggs to actually get the shiny pets....might just wait until tomorrow.

[grand scarab]

i dont think its worth it personally lol

[scarlet geyser]

Yeah...

Instead I am going to do something for overnight.

[strong shale]

Could do w4 miniboss on dk if you have them up

Or a w4 colo on dk if you need some

[rapid locust]

with gaming, i saw someone talking about just trying to max out the grow speed over bit collection because in the end it's more bits? is that just something for the way late game gaming?

[junior dune]

Were they talking about the squirrel? The speed boost just scales much better than the bit multi.

After like 5x it gets very slow

[grand scarab]

damn, i didnt realize that lol, should i just start pumping mainly only speed? especially since i check very regularly?

[rapid locust]

I'm only at like 110%

Im assuming they use the cat too?

[junior dune]

Yeah the cat rock is very good since it just gives a ton of speed after a couple upgrades

There are also two breakpoints where all your crops grow back either every 5 seconds or literally every second with enough speed and farming crops

[junior dune]

I would spend significantly more on speed at this point

[grand scarab]

gotcha, thank you 🙂

[scarlet geyser]

Okay. It's about time I got this finally over and done with.

[rapid locust]

So would it be worth the faster grow times if my fert growth speed is 25.2m with 110% squirrel and cat on?

[scarlet geyser]

I really should have done this earlier, but I guess better late than never. Let's just get that constellation over and done with.

[grand scarab]

candy it

[scarlet geyser]

...okay, even I can see that as a waste of 8 12-hour candies.

I'd rather just overnight this.

[grand scarab]

probably the more responsible choice for sure

[scarlet geyser]

Yes I know it's 9 chars but my BB has already done that.

Hell, I spent about 12 1-hour candies just to get my last 2 characters to that map. Because I want to get that constellation over with.

[grand scarab]

lol, need to have em push for boss keys eventually anyways so at least not a waste or anything

[scarlet geyser]

Exactly.

[proud arch]

Do try and save 1h candies for eventual candy bubbling

[pastel kayak]

Finally got the pack I brought last week @grand scarab

[scarlet geyser]

For what?

[grand scarab]

massive gains inc

[proud arch]

It's like 2m claims but for alchemy bubbles

[rapid locust]

that pack is redonk

[scarlet geyser]

....it works with candies? Or you mean for CC cooldown?

[proud arch]

You need ram for banking anywhere. Have your dudes on a resource node like iron. And use candies to get resources and pick up and bank 1 stack at a time and click your bubbles

[scarlet geyser]

....oh. You mean for leveling them.

Well, for now I think the candies spent were worth it.

For the constellation and for pushing towards Chizoar with my 2 last chars (for now).

[grand scarab]

inching closer lol, should def be done by tomorrow

[junior dune]

I find that 4 and 2 hr candies are the ones I use most for candying bubbles. It takes a long time before you need to use smaller ones and you will probably give up before then. I save them for archers since I like bars

[bleak gazelle]

[junior dune]

Which door is that?

[hollow temple]

I use 1hr candy for my wis bubble

[bleak gazelle]

M1F9

[zinc torrent]

:0 I found the hole

[junior dune]

You must be really high then or have very good chopping. I stopped at 15k because I couldn't use a 4 hour anymore with like 8B per hour iirc

No it has to have been more than 8B

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle finally got the pack I brought last week

[bleak gazelle]

nice

[hollow temple]

29k atm

I sometimes use a 2hr candy if i want to waste some bleach

[junior dune]

Impressive

[hollow temple]

[bleak gazelle]

[cyan mantle]

About time

[bleak gazelle]

ooh, still only 10% detection up here

[junior dune]

If it takes under a week I've started to consider it quick now...

[bleak gazelle]

my last 40Q one took...idk 20 hours? time to get some new nunchaku here

[junior dune]

When you get a good rosary that should be mostly fixed

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, definitely going to be a nice jump

probably need to grab some more red gems too

[junior dune]

I would consider having a few more buffers as well

[bleak gazelle]

going to like 4/6 instead of 6/4?

[junior dune]

Nice gloved btw

At least when you are at 90% detection rate

[bleak gazelle]

only took me a week or something like 1/day

[junior dune]

Farming will help improve detect as well

[bleak gazelle]

ah true, just hit 100 crops so still quite a few to go

[junior dune]

Maybe I should go for at least a few good ones

I'm trying to avoid having to gem farm but I don't think that's possible

[junior dune]

Good thing that idleon is an offline game

+1 slab

I wonder if that's the rarest drop in the game

Definitely rarest one I can see

[wintry elbow]

i do believe it is

[junior dune]

Oh I think I've gotten 3 of those lmao

And I haven't spent nearly as much time there