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I didn't have my poop or demon genie equipped cause had full DR/card set on 
cooked
pure gamer moment
I farmed oogie boogie man on DK yesterday thinking I could get like 5+ spawns in one orb (didn't know it resets orb with day/night swap yet)
But I do farm bosses with vman
Well I was 1/135. Now 1/60
maybe the last 10k will go faster if I don't goof
everyone remember to buy your tomb pages for extra dr
I started buying those today now that I farm a ton of coins overnight
Up to like 5 dreadlo already
don't make me go coin farming on my bubo pls. trying to get power statues
Yall poor 
calls me poor and i have 6 red coins
Had to stop this farm so I could do rift 40/41 with SB and ES 
whats the max stats for base stat obols?
I still need to use a 72 hr on it
imagine not even having 8 dreadlo
Rangers + BB really do hella work in rifts over the other classes
why pop a 72hr at gmush?
Can you clarify a bit more?
this what sucked my first 2 dreadlo from me
kek
whats the max wis roll on that
I think I need to get a lot of books for my SB to be good. My ES is better than SB in rift right now. And my BB is stuck screaming "yes chef" for eternity
lol
i think its 1+ rarity (bronze 1 silver 2 gold 3)
couple of gamers right there
Books do make a huge difference xD my best SB is at 2T while my ES is only 200b
i hear those guys still need onyx statues
the wiki said silver gives 2 but i rerolled it and got 4 so i was wondering if thats the max
Yes max stat on silver is +4
Few more hours and I get ruby cards can't wait \ o/
bunch of other ones ready tho
2 is your base and +2 is best roll because of silver.
so much skilling power you gain
Not sure how much tho. A lot of cards are barely 5 star xD
My ES/bubo are almost at 100b dmg. My SB is at like 40B ๐ฆ aren't there bubbles and grinding out ms that make SB scale stupidly hard?
from onxy statues?
Do I dare? I've been stuck at 15-19 for months.
yeah I got a lot that are ready for onyx power to happen lol. My vman went a little hard on mining and got me 75k lumberbob 
Give it more mail ๐
this one is pretty big @grand scarab
thanks
I've already given it 24 encouragements.
did a lil boss farmin last night for some cards. efaunt still lame tho lol
Yeah MS and that Jade cost bubble is huge
zoom
Can always give it more ๐
1S baba yago
it's in my "when bubo CCs, this goes brr" group
use bone joe in w1 arena
Tbh I might need to remake a set of amarok/dem/whatever and use w6 stones for my SB haha
I dont do bosses that require me to be somewhere at a specific time lol
Mines only 55 xD
And there we go.
w1 arena
but I'll probably wait. I got this grind lined up after power statues
Come on over. The troll/kruk grind gonna be fun 
And next task is for Nightmare Kattle. Considering last fight vs it took literally 7 eternities...
Is that why you don't take your boss out for drinks after work?
need to do that with vman too
yeah tbh this is how I'm going to 4* baba soon
You can do nm kattle on anyone, so take your strongest. My ES took like 3-5mins to kill nightmare.
I'm working on that now as well 7/10 full magma. I'll have enough nullo by the weekend. Apparently I've messed up 3 pairs of agi magma boots with using w4 stones xD
Won't matter when you upgrade them to divine knight boots ๐ fresh rolls
Except the last task, from what I heard, requires killing it on 10 characters.
My boss is a bully lol
I am shocked I'm scaled so much higher damage wise then you are when your bubbles so high
The last one requires killing nm kruk on all in order, but you can do achieve 8/9 with a single char probably now. But for that one the general advice (so I've heard) is have everyone on mole questline that requires cape(?) drop from nm kruk since you'll be farming him anyways
My archers have been hard neglected since the start. They seemed so low dmg and catching was a horrendous skill early on, so they've been haunting me my whole life lol. They were mostly lab rats until lately. Trying to get an SB and BM sorta active for gains
soon ๐ฎ
ez clap
got a shell upgrade this morning too ๐
damn all the cards that i got to insta 5 star are bad
Almost there aswell. 3m left I think
i need to start making my way towards 36 for vial mastery
no boss cards insta 5 star? 
I dont farm bosses
so close to the statue grind being online
Wanna send me your IE so I can see the discrepancies? I'm real curious too lol
I've only done a handful. the gem drops are ๐ ๐
is artifact chance higher if you have less or something? or does each one just have a base drop chance?
Each one has its own drop %. Pretty sure it's equivalent for each arti on the island though.
few of the ancients i have left have like .1% chance but the eldritch ones i just unlocked and am going for now are like 3% lol
Like going back for sovereign on island 1 I have a 2-3% arti chance. But going for even ancient on some later ones I have open are .1% like you. They just get rarer the farther from home they are
And then obviously what tier they are makes them harder too
Make sure to throw on arti chance % star sign when looting chests
I've only been back a couple weeks mind you xD. Played quite hard during w4 and only a month into w5 before taking a 2 year break
Aah nice. Like you were playing hard at end of w4 waiting for w5 to launch?
Your stamp game is ๐ฅ you got 3k on me lol.
But yeah, your bubbles kick my ass. 500+ on first bubbles and 200 on second bubbles? I don't even have to look any further. your alch wins hands down
Right. Well, I'll still do this before that quest just so I can unlock the Staff recipe.
Yeah that's why I pushed achieve 8/9 so I could get all weapon recipes ๐ just need to eventually get ready for scarf farming
oh shit, bingo draft getting ready to start
I was pushing my first bubbles with atoms. And just pushed from 140 last week with mushrooms. Didn't get a great sample either need to improve it.
You ready to go AFK for a full week?
And I do try to get a few clicks on em when I check twice daily + printer go brrr
what's your sample? I resampled this week for first time since my very first speedrun. Got a ~550k/hr print so I'm happy I'm making gains on bubble 2 ๐
I need to resample all my main chars though so I can get more atoms
lol forgot I have your IE open. 590m logs ๐ญ yeah you win the atom gain
I'm rprinting 11m oak per slot rn
My statues hard carry me
And this is why I'm grinding out the power onyx so I can go dump all those skilling ones in ๐
odds i get picked top 50%? lol
Same xD. At w3 now it's quite slow
I need to start doing g mush again. So much other stuff to do they have been waiting
You have 790m gmush
are you poor on coins or something?
Stamps draining them hard
My bubo pulls a few godshards a day
I need some cooking lvls on my ES and DK
at least yr getting more than 1 dreadlo coin an hour
With all the stuff I got pumped into coins I better
Don't have opals on my bubo ATM. I think I could be a bit higher
I need everyone to cook, but praying for doot ne day so I can have div pearls to free 50 cook
ah that's fair. I'm too poor for stamps usually and you are 3k higher than me lol
I did 128m** kills with out multi kill on bubo for coins during w4 tbf. I do got 590k w4 crystal cards xD
i only decided to upgrade my stamps as much as i could earlier today and am at 5.5k now as opposed to 3.5k
that sounds very painful lol.
the 2k stamps didnt do anything for my dmg, and idk if theyve affected my skilling
They most likely boosted your skilling a good amount
fuck bro, im about to be last pick 
they prob boosted my farming a ton, cuz i had just upgraded my crop evo stamp a bunch and got 3 new crops from 4 bags
other than the ones for a few alch bubbles, does anything take sailing materials or should i plow it all into loot and speed on the boats?
one pig quest in w5 needs a few
oh yeah
beyond that just trading for gold bars for the one achievement and then stacking gold bars for opera mask artifact for damage
and gold bars does damage or something through an artifact, right?
yeah, opera mask, not lantern, my bad
Another one bites the dust
Damn @proud arch just glanced at your SBs. They aren't even booked as high as I expected them to be just cause your dmg, but 5k base stats and 16k+ agi goes hard ๐คฃ
pog
2/3 way to 75 for equinox
yeah, kinda running out of easy ones lol
gonna have to do the w2 gs grind tomorrow maybe
eventually you will log in and randomly have 5 more
Just make sure all your samples get greenstacked for ore/wood/fish/bugs.
Then some easy ones like wurm meat cause bubo farms it anyways.
There's a handful of foods that you can greenstack in <4 days with daily buy (just make sure to do it on whoever has biggest food bag to keep your sanity), some of them just 1 day needed. All pretty cheap coin cost.
Then slowly take your ES through mobs world by world (going to do this when outta rift so I can hit 75)
theres 2 more easy ones i can knock out
Mmmm yup
My vman needs to finish snake/gmush vial before I gs/push vials on the other ingredients though
yeah, thats exactly what i had him on before lol
figure ill pump out two quick GS for the damage then swap back
Hehehe finally time to be rich in sailing (for me)
Does everyone get the same resource offer?
I didn't get it either ๐ฆ I'm still waiting for it
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Yeah, IE/IT should show you the rotation
It's based off what islands you have unlocked though, so we shouldn't have the same trade offers.
ahh is it?
Well I've definitely never had an offer for an island resource I can't access yet.
And typ when I unlock a new island, it gives me offers for the easy/rare resource on it within a day or so
How many gold oysters did you buy from gem shop
coolers
Yeah, nothing that I can't reach is up for grabs over the next 10 days
thank god he hit 3*, can cardify him eventually
Is that even worth it
i mean, eventually sure
id say its not a priority to use an early rubifier on or anything
Does anyone know what IT means by the shiny level threshold? I noticed in game the ones that are lvl 5 have a swirly icon in the genetic tab too
but when you kinda run out of things to use em on, why not
I hope if we get a new round of pets theres one that will auto deposit mob mats that arent filtered lol
you can set a threshold in IT so that when your shiny pets pass that level it'll alert you
default is 5 probably
prior to w6, shiny speed/leveling was much more time consuming
That'll 100% be a paid service like auto-loot
i want obol auto-trashing
That's fine too I'd pay for it. Tired of disabling the mats I'm farming when I go to bed or going somewhere else lol
so nice to see 2% chance lmao
you on first island? 
just unlocked eldritch ๐
ayyy
how am i supposed to get all of the starfire for troll sets for all my characters
aah i see. Yeah I know w6 made shiny leveling much better just didn't realize 5 was a pretty common threshold I guess beforehand. I forget to swap them out and only putting 1 of each pet type in there.
Grind
Do archer claims w/ the forge proc talent maxed
I'm currently working on the starfire + dreadlo needed for troll sets -> magma ๐
first sovereign. bitch better have my kitty kat's money
am i able to do all of my traps on my vman, which is my only character with royal traps unlocked, and let vacuum gather them with all of the xp going to my toher charactesr?
You can't set royal traps on chars that don't hve a royal+ trap on them
so many new meal posibilites, holy smokes
sailing speed one gonna be sick, and another cooking speed one pog
i was able to place silkskin traps on characters that only had cardboard traps while using a character with wooden traps a while ago
Hmm maybe you can then? I thought it didn't let you. If you're going for pure exp though, nature traps are best. I think BM placing traps for everyone except Vman is the ideal setup.
all of my characters have steel traps or higher now so things mightve changed since then, and my vman is the only one with royal traps and my BM is the only one with meaty traps
royal traps have max slots, so you need minimum 2 to be able to place the full amount of slots. the "placer" set the trap type, but the "holder" dictates the number of slots in this case
so while you can 'set' royal traps, you'd only have 7 slots vs the 8 if you were holding a royal as well
Interesting it lets you do that. Good to know when you're only able to get 1 of the whatever the trap threshold/breakpoints are for BM to set traps on though.
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you've been using ladles?
nah lol
do pets have a max lvl when it comes to splicing
Pretty sure there's a max. A wild guess is 100 based off what I remember the splicing bars looking like
Eh probably 99 actually
What's the best class to push w5 with?
I would do ES
ES/DK are preferred due to needing lower dmg caps to beat w5 boss
DK will probably never die from crystals along the way due to innate better def but needs you to keep 1.5x accuracy for dmg buff, ES is what i took and I think would be quicker at pushing w5 in general. Just gotta maybe throw on a red pot at some point to make sure crystal mobs aren't 1 shotting you if you do active overnight push
Alright sweet, I'll probably stick with the DK I guess cause of the auto respawn
DK isn't effective on a decent amount of w5 maps. ES's wormhole provides respawn buffs too, so I wouldn't pick DK solely for auto respawn reason.
if i want to maximize cards from critters, do i do the critter focused traps, shiny focused, or xp focused
Hey guys
I'm onto my last 2 islands
I don't know what to pick between fractal and the other one wich name I don't remember
Is the one to catch legendary fish
Wich one would be more usefull? (Btw i'm barely on tab 3 for anvil, just to say cuz I think those fish are like for W6 stuff?)
Oh I meant last 3 Island
I just forget Rando everytime XD
While the fish are for later end stuff. YOu only need 30 fishing there and you can candy there. The exp is amazing when trying to level fishing up on vman (or other chars for rift mastery later)
Fractal island I would ignore for now. You just go there and dump candy // "AFK the nothingness" for bonuses. You probably aren't far enough elong to be letting chars waste precious afk time
This is the fractal island breakdown
I was thinking that because time candy is still like saving my aaaaah of DAYS of grinding
I mean you can leave a char AFK on the island to get credit, but I don't think you want to really camp chars there for weeks on end
if you don't have a plethora of candy.
Indeed I don't XD
I make up some
Cuz I got Milkyway to 98 and always leave characters +30 hours most of the time, except like now because of the event
I have between 3k-10k hrs (if cosmic candy hits perfectly lol) and I don't think I've dumped more than like a 24hr candy trying to figure out what was going on
But that's just a little bonus, nothing THAT big
๐ฎ if you leave cahrs afk for 30+ hours a lot then yeah. I'd def ignore fractal island until you're ready to start burning them for those bonuses.
Then I'll go with the other one and leave fractal second to last (last would be Rando)
Love it that today I was like "I feel like trying to kill giants"
And just checked shimmer and the Challenge was killing as much Giants as I can
Nice
!trapchart
I do wonder how much of a boost I'll get now with pushing through the W4 and W5 spices...
...
....probably not enough. Still need a ton more spice to upgrade recipe and heat.
Outdated af
You only need to upgrade the first two or three kitchens for meal heat.
does goharut work with ES if i'm also secondarily linked to arctis? so i'm in the lab because of arctis, do i get divinity too?
Yeah, that is what I am doing. I just need more spice and faster spice generation.
And for faster spice generation, I need more eggs.
Is there a recommended pong score?
24k or whatever it is for the achievement
The biggest boost will come from new meals for sure. It's new stacks for diamond chef and a ton more levels for blood marrow... + whatever new perks you get from the meals themselves
Now if only Diamond Chef actually leveled.
Make sure to only level it with 90% bargain tag. But yeah don't think mine's gotten a hit from the buff to NBLB
Yeah, I've just got 2 levels with the 90% tags. +1 each.
@grand scarab
in my skilling set or id send mine, about to head to work ๐ฆ
@frank prairie
anything better than nothing though. What level is the bubble at now?
Am I missing something on Divinity? I've gotten first 3 gods but my point gain with every character on there is only 35 so next one is going to take atleast a week to roll the 50%
Not high enough.
Have you changed your style to get more points? And I would suggest not gamba on 50% but instead the left one unless you see a 100% roll on the right
Yeah my levels are still low with ES around 13 and everyone else around 10
So on ES i've still been prioritizing better xp rates over points
it's a start though. if you got 1 of each of the lower spices, just make sure to force your best generation on that spice (whale sandwich, borger w/ forester or whatever on top)
Is it worth to put on the one that gives less xp but more points to get new gods or stay steady with the 2xp 2 point one?
Most people say you'll camp div for 2-4weeks until you have goat (unless you're a dooter). Imo, just prioritize points only until you get goat. Then you can have one person focus exp to hit lvl50 for multitool stamp
Yeah lol I just miss playing the game ๐ญ
Since you have nobi and bear unlocked, feel free to pull someone out to push w5 or your mman out to skill or whatever the case is. Don't need to 100% force yourself to AFK
Yeah I got my bb farming chow stacks atleast
Yeah I've focused my books elsewhere and just got eldritch fury xD SB is way down the list
I got into w5 before char lvl reqs increased, so I kept mman/vman out skilling and my es pushing w5 with nobisect link
I'm jelly that it is mostly your alch carrying you above me lol 
@grand scarab this is what my damage is at now
I do wish my class exp bubble was better
heya, i didnt read thru all of it but the prio for last 4 is def seasalt > crystal > rando > fractal
fractal literally does nothing, becuase youd have to spend candy/afk gains on nothing
The game was so much simpler playing with 1 person at a time
I will resample soon tho. With ruby cards in a few hours I am definitely gonna try and get a few of those first xD

Think Iโll get ruby cards next week
Na Iโm at the point where okay farm mats with es - dice with dk- cc with bubo
And I have to rotate chips
Every time
And I forget itโs pain
Just need to wait long enough to have 3 sets of chips + obols lol
That can be xD I try to keep em active on one thing for longer
This xD I gotta go get 2 more dr obol sets
island 1 done
i'm getting good luck on sailing AFK procs today
Don't have beanstalk + gold food for 100%?
No I have like 3k total ghampters. I haven't put in enough bubo wurm time
Would glad give yeah 1k off everyone if I could
All good. I think my bubo will go back to wurms after I get my onyx statues. But prob should put those 3k hampters on people instead of sitting in stash. Too lazy to make everyone bigger bags though (most of my chars can only hold like 200 food lol)
i dont even have 100k hampters :p
Worth having your vman make everyone at least w4 or w5 bags
what i did for some bags was made 10 of the highest i could, just threw em in storage and when i was on checking their afk gains i just used em
Only had 55k sadly xD shouldn't take long to get em during the key grind
Damn sov ones are that easy?
why vman? I don't even have mats for half the shit
I used to do this on my archer but I don't have storage space no mo 
@strong shale main now
Vmans gonna be your stamper
the sovs from first 3-4 islands are ez, others arent
Yeah on the last arti most rates were 0.5% for basic chest
thats looks hella low for lvl 410
level =/= damage
errr whatcha mean by this?
Summoning boosts artifact chance a lot
- vial of turtle
vman gets the highest carry capacity
414 when took that
i mean if ur not afking on ur latest map for 2 years it kinda is
I forgot how many kills I got on w5 mobs
where is your damage at :(
yeah summoning has def helped. Vial of turtle will be clutch when I get it
everyone progresses differently
I am trying my best to get my damage up
yea not everyone has 40% afk wings thats true
Ah. So that jsut means vman becomes bag maker/stamper? I was using my first archer for some reason but prob cause I was hoping they'd craft me +1 slot and the newb gains from their talent
can you give me? 
yeah, but theres no slots on carry capacity :p
whats ur weapon atm?
unfortunately true
no i dont have any :))
working on troll armor yet?
I should really get my luck up.
Not have al the mats to make yet
Gotta get that salt up ๐
gl with it
Once you get LVL 5 nullo it does become a lot quicker
i know its a crazy pain
only level 4 nullo here :^(
I'm better than Low at something? I think the matrix is falling apart
are your purple salts keeping up? :p
Yes but my green salts are in jeopardy right now, so 
:p
that do be 2nd page
ill keep these from you then
i love the later skulls
i look at that like, shit i should use it
i'm doing fine... for now.
3 days
All I see is "oh bar isn't full blue? perfect"
its so good
It just blows up when you can OG camp?
yeah
God damn
these r my salts
My red salts are ranked 14 is that good? @strong shale
yep, keep leveling it up!
Having one dk mining a bb at green mushrooms so they can keep getting stuff need for red salts
dont use bb at green mushrooms, only keep the stuff for red salts in printer
Need to get the kills up so get more coins
Hmm maybe I should push my bubo to beans sooner than later then. My farming is doing real good now that I got some major evo % chance buffs, but OG would greatly help since I'm not checking right on time (somehow my farm speed boosted a ton)
use siege breaker or beast master @pastel kayak , bb is best at the kitchen in w4
also omf
What's wrong with printing
last time i used this chart ~2 days ago i had a 52x farming speed multi, now its 343x
lol. DO you even need that many plants for anything?
no blue?
Got other stuff need for green stacks printing
Yes bigger magic bean trade
Nope
1q 
oh doi
Now get 1qqq
woulda been cool if we got another market eventually
He doesnโt have magic beans heโs still a 1 crop type of guy
maybe a f2p way to stack up instagrows
The young heavenly cook raided the demonic sect medicinal pavilion and advanced in his evolution cultivation thanks to the resources acquired
I look forward to seeing farming start to take off
its so fun but ive been sitting afk in w6 town for the past 2 days
Yeah I got my one instagrow from gemshop a while ago and was told to hold until 100+ for some achievement? idk ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Will stalk you later @strong shale
Do they grow better that way ?
you really hating on me for not being able to rush everything like you lol
When everything takes less then a second it rly makes you feel like you accomplished something
Lmao
I've only just gotten to the second night market thing. Although I can't buy it xD
my growth cycle on basics is like 35-40s right now
and im collecting every growth if i need to push a certain crop
And then you reach a point where it's so fast that it becomes mega buggy and right there and then you know you've done enough farming
Ahh that's ages away xD
I'm only 2 weeks into w6
lot closer than you think tbh
Am I doing good guys? 
ive only been doing farming for like 1-2 weeks
but i bought 11/12 plots and 6 instagrows
and i was like level 80 lolol
That helps lol
your growth cycles wont go up until u do a first bean trade
unlock og, and like 1-2% into speed gmo and then you slowly stack og
This week's exp buff has been pretty nice for my farm.
ANd I thought it started at like 3hrs? So it somehow has reduced
while getting your day market up
vials, alchemy, stamps
There is a xp buff this week?
yeah
Yeah it was the ballot vote
I thought we were on sneaking week
sneaking is next week 
Oh
this shits going down
I didn't know it gave 40% to evo as well, that's nuts
Shrine not winning is a crime against humanity btw
right
finish power statues... or og... power statues.. or og? 
i didnt even think about it when i voted for sneaking
I may have to pop my insta grows this week then rather than save, just to get a few Xtra crops
og, power statues are cringe
Yeah ur cooked lowgun
Feasty statue is the answer
irl and in game
@grand scarab how'd the bingo draft go?
just got goat god, but im wondering should i have my BB in kitchen or should i just let it finish up lab/divinity first?
No I'm just in the rat race with edvin and bjorn on shitty statue farm
Always need more feasty
could get it to 40 div, tranqi and let your bubo carry it with the talent in lab
Level 300 is when u can stop farming it
think before this week is over imma push to the last glassy crop i can
that works on divinity?
using the evo chance as much as i can
tranqi gives exp over time
I'll start again when I get some decent luck xD I did this during w4 10x luck xD
Is it multi evo chance? Cuz if it's not like the mining boost was then ur not even gonna notice the difference
i dont know, but imma use it
Luck โ dr
im kinda hoping it scales off the land ranks multi but
yea... night market is your evo goat right
we'll see how it goes over the next couple hours.
i got it from 1.1x to 1.4x since last trade
Without night market evo thingy even unlocking the first glassy would most likely be impossible
That map aura is just better to run than canister
for leveling up div should i be using chakra until lvl 40 or mantra when i unlock it on each character
Doesn't matter for me. Canister isn't holding back respawn/aura from popping off cooldown
but i gotta stack 1k crops on all mushie and half of sushi
It's gonna be a while till u comple farming then, the like new ones that got added with land ranks scale so fucking fast
yeah :/
1.2e24 is my crop evo chance rn
i still dont have all plots, im not really pushing to finish the glassy farm
i still need to do day market lol
Ye ur gonna need lots more, not sure how much tho
my doubler 
That and more beenz need some attention
when i get all my crops at 1k ill have lioke a 3:28 growth on glassy
yea, i was pumping stronger vines + speed
and now im doin crop evo, and then doubler
but honestly, gonna scrap crop evo farming lmao since night market op
if i could hit 100k crops on all my crops i have discovered i could be doin 9s growth on basics
but thatll take like 2 days
when sitting in divinity whats best style up to lvl 40 chakra or mantra?
chakra
you reckon i pump stronger vines a bit?
Idk how many crops you get, but If you can go for it
And how long will it take
It says to claim evry 4 minutes
Isn't that for like og maximisation
Idrk I've never used the sheet before
thats for x crops, ig i could do like
oh
sorry you needa see the whole thing
1 claim
it would take me like 14 mins for the next few upgrades
Oh claims needed 1
Fair enough, but idk if 4 minutes to level it up once it's worth it, do the other 2 first imo
kk
i could get it really close to almost doubled the value
in a relatively quick time
Upgraded night market for the third time =3 Had 380k beans to spend.
value gmo doesnt work i thought
๐คทโโ๏ธ
I see bonus, I upgrade.
I don't know if it's working as intended, but I'm pretty sure it's doing something. Because I start out getting ~100 produce per plant and end up getting around 1.5k per plant before I bean.
Is it worth using balanced spirit (-dmg +acc, def) on dk to push? Or find accuracy from other sources
You mean this one?
it might be worth it if it lets you hit the 1.5x acc threshold, but there are probably easier ways to get acc
Nah not worht your talent pts, esp as pushing.
You can get way bigger accuracy tradeoffs such as through that prayer
You lose too much dmg for littelr acc/def gain
Alright I'll try and work some magic then
Can definitely hit 100% accuracy cap but doubt I will hit 150
If you don't have the prayer I linked, look into that. I had to use that + accuracy % cards for most of my w4/w5 trek
Roo should help with your accuracy too if you haven't neglected the pond.
Yeah I don't have it yet is it waka waka or the tree one
wave 31 from wakawaka
Pond is going alright +9% atm
Okay cool yeah definitely gotta push that soon just waiting for kraken
You definitely don't need kraken to hit wave 31 of wakawaka
Lol ok. That prayer at base value gives +30% accuracy for only -5% dmg. Obviously scale it as you need.
Yeah I think I was at like +90% accuracy and -15% dmg when I beat w5 lol.
I don't think there's commands. This guide is what people refer to but jumps from wave 11 to 80 on wakawaka https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/193tGCv_nJpgleOzQ2jkO9KEpSh8JcOZLdjDolD9Z0FI/htmlview#
If you follow the wave 80 guide I'm sure it'll get you past 31 as soon as you have a kraken
Awesome. Tyvm
np good luck on getting the prayer and pushing
also remember shaquracy
probably best to sample and let it run / run collo, bloach is pretty tough
Can someone explain the controls for Point in gaming? I can't understand how to control it using the mouse.
Ruby cards need a crap ton of cards yikes xD
Never played with mouse but assume you just grab and drag?
The mouse is super janky. Keyboard is way better regrettably
The keyboard controls feels like someone poured vasoline all over the controls. it's like if you were playing a flash pong game with 5000 ping
When in doubt do it on mobile
Play on mobile
Wait is mobile actually OP over keyboard on pc?
Idk maybe. I don't have many issues. Sometimes a little frame stutter but controls are good
The only thing i could see mobile being more OP on would be the trapping minigame
Idk im trying on mobile and it feels worse... gonna give it a few tries, but maybe either im too used to gaming on mouse/kb or I just have fat ass fingers that cover too much of the screen
What's the most effective way to unlock Chem Plants in gaming? Thank you!
you can use accuracy cards such as sand castle, wood mushroom, and neyeptune for easy bonuses
But should I save until 1% or go for the 0.1%?
sorry i ment 0.1
why
Click it every time you look at the gaming window.
because its bad and takes a ton of DNA to even get to 1% at that point
Should I harvest all and try with 0.1 or go 1 plant and research with 0.01%?
Quantity > Quality
i just did harvest all and research
oh what if i have like 4 evolutions unlocked and im stuck at voracii
but i also have doot doot train so i get a lot of gaming pumps
ok 
plus with kitsune i can harvest all like every 30 mins
So if I'm trying to unlock Chem, I should run Kitsune?
depends on how often you check it
if you can check it atleast once an hour yes. if not then no
If you can check often enough that your plants dont sit at max evolution, then it's always worth running cat regardless of your current gaming goal
how do you get ancient artifact forms?
rng (be lucky)
Omg, I knew asking in here was going to make it happen, just got it with 0.1%, stupid Chem plant have been trying for 3 months..
Thanks everyone!
You have Quack to thank
I am the worst player because i give my luck to everyone else
His doot-like powers give us all an advantage.
thats why im doot stacking
Appreciate it Quack, thanks for the luck!
can i reset a day with gold pocketwatch for this event?
no
ah oke ty
First one! dropped off a clammie
gz
749 more to go
10 luckier lads
Luckier lads?
is upgraded version
Ohhhhh how do I unlock the recipe
It's equinox challenge
Get a lucky lad drop on begginer class to complete equinox dream
for the vman quest, does the million kills include crystal mobs????
nop
How does one stack golden hampters
i need to grab a few of them for each of my toons to try and progress sailing faster
becomes easy once you start CCing at tremurs with bubo and crystal chance
Split all ghamps evenly across all characters
what is CCing
Cranium cooking
Oh i'm way too far from that
Shaman talent
Do you not have shaman? That's unlocked in w2
Ooh u mean from at tremors
I do, but like, i can't one shot those fellas
Didn't read everything
Lol I can't even survive on that map as bubo
crystal mobs in w5 drop them pretty good
Does IE show damage anywhere? If so I can't find it
not yto my knoweledge
Damn bro did you just unlock vman?
Yea
no, i mean
Been a few months (but i stopped playing right after) and got back a week ago
What's your plan for your 2 BB? I've heard the chows get fucked up when you have 2
I fucked up
Waiting for a class change token
For a cool 675 gems or smt like that
I have one if my chest if you want it
Is there trade in this game? 
no
correct
go back and do your stamps vro, you got da money
i'll just buy the thing then
hate doing stamps but i guess you're right
will try to do that right now
no more sigils you still have so much alchemy to go through
you mean leveling, right? not acquiring
Just dont worry about greenstacks, just pump all your mats into stamps
Acquire every stamp u can
Are they that important???
both acquiring and leveling them up
From w1-4
Yes, ES damage is based on stamps and some stamps are 2x'd from lab
Stamps are almost/more end game than alchemy
I need to start pushing alchemy with cranium cooking but my bubo sucks ass
stamps are a scam
Brutal but true
Lol
If ur in w5 and dont have 3k stamp levels + all w1-4 stamps u deserve to go back to w2
<1000 crops in 3 months
i know im trash. thats why i put it there
Real idleon players have 20k stamp levels
You know what you need to do quack
One of these days, youll spend a week getting your acc pumped and be legendary
does this not work when i'm already a blood berserker?
If only i knew how
please dont tell me i spent 500gems for nothing
wrong token
oh no
You want me to lie?
elite class token
where exactly does one get those
Wait weeks until there's an elite token in the shop and then pay even more gems
Yeah it's more or less a scam. It's idleon
get yer plates to 11 
anyone know why my eagle eye trap said half an hour and i came back half an hour later and now it says 26 min
Event shop
There's none on it
were you sitting on the character select screen
yeah?
does that affect it
it does indeed
god dammit
so u have to actively play?
or close the game
there are stamp reducers and there is also a max possibel for stamps, may have more inv slots in future
Probably remove that- Known bug exploit and shouldn't be discussed
ah, sorry
All good- Just don't want to see you get in trouble for an innocent question
It's so easy to do that on accident...
Should have eldritch artifacts unoocked tmr
anyone got an idea why that moron won't connect to the prism?
Connect hik to two things
Sometimes it shoots past characters that are in useless/inefficient positoks in lab
every family has that one member who is "different"
somehow my bubo was blocking him from connecting bc bubo has bigger range
They connect in character slot order if possible. It's real weird but doesn't really hurt
lab is such a boring mechanic, not being able to save presets really hurts
It shoots past characters that are in useless places if they arent at the end of the line
How do I do the Gaming skill better?
Is it worth sailing to fury relic island if each journey takes 5 days
i dont think so man, you're wasting too much time that could be farming ancients
No not worth, don't go anywhere that takes longer than 4hr
Then how do I get more sailing speed? I already got the ancient relic for sailing speed
Got rift slug after world 5 is late?
focus on leveling ur boats rather than pushing higher artifacts too quick
keep upgrading your boats
its never too late
Tons of ways to get sailing speed, main way is upgrade boats, but cooking and other skills gives it too
Most of them have like 2k - 3k sail speed
I thought i get doot there
yea, too slow, i'm only pushing to fury island right now on most 20k speed
i been baited before, got a spare crystal custard tho
just go back to earlier islands and lvl up ur ships speed
Geez and here I thought I could rush fury :(
Alright
rushing in sailing is a mistake, rushing is what makes ppl take months to progress when it should only take weeks
Should I discover new relics or just farm the older islands?
even if you unlock fury island, imagine how long it'd take for you to actually hit the relic
Anyone has tips for sailing and gaming for world 5? Which to level up and what to focus on?
farm older islands and slowly move to next ones once ur speed is better
Ok
sailing just progress slowely, stick to early islands and lvl ur ships until u feel confident and move on to next ones, go back to beginning to level more if ur ships are taking too long (u want to keep it about 2 hrs per trip), as for gaming just do all the things there isn't really any trick to it
I hate leveling stamps, not only did I spend all of my cash, I lost 30 greenstacks lol
stamps become really important tbh, at first they are kinda worthless but late game they are sizable
WTB Stamp tier list ๐
every week or so I level them as much as I can
I just level everything, I start at the beginning and go
the stuff in skills section and anything that increases inventory space, also forge stamp and library checkout stamp
I also assume the % dmg stuff too
Now to refarm all my greenstacks with my ES lol
i had a sample once. it was hard work.
Wish you could get more than 10 sample slots
wish that idol bonus didnt get blown on first resample rather like first 3 or 5
or w.e it is that gives the bonus hte longer you wait
Anyway to raise this even more besides card doubler on Poop?
cards should be 300
stamp and shrine are only things that can keep scaling up
he said aside doubling poop :p
I can't read
I'll get my hands on an Omega Motherboard eventually. Idleon wiki says it will appear the day before Halloween.
any tips for N Kattle with BB? (other than just get more dmg)
siegebreaker or BM for killroy?
bm
@worldly lagoon my 2nd bb is level 50 in cooking use candy to make it higher?
u can't candy cooking
if u wanna lvl cooking u have to use balloons but there is no point
cooking lvls don't rly do much
Skills on main ok? @worldly lagoon
seems fine
Sparkie saved the day for a major comeback bless up. the first of like 3 sparkie clumps
hell yeah, theyre goated for pushing summoning
But I feel like I'm currently screwed if I don't get some good sparkie rolls. what the heck is the play at this point? lol. I'm early red (that was my first red win)
Since I'm not a farming master or w6 pusher I can't really buff essence bubbles
thats pretty much it, or hope you get a lot of bloomies
unlock cyan essence for higher stat upgrades
^
kek unlock cyan you say? see ya next year if I can't prog red anymore lol
But aight. I'll just hope for sparkie/bloomies to push a few more lvls across the colors so my essence gen goes up and I can get cyan sooner than later
Card collection begins \ o/
I just unlocked w5 should I put my DK in divinity as well or just the peeps that were in lab?
Divinity Question: Should i be rerolling on low and only try when its at 100% or what?
any of yall got a character that starts with S?
that's exactly it, roll left til right turns to 100%
You don't just have a huge stockpile of candy to burn for rubies? 
burning candy on ruby cards gross
So many of these stupid things
If you don't candy cards and you don't candy 2min claims... what do candy?
^ honestly the best question. Cant even candy in world 6 so whats the point in candies if you dont use it for cards lol
i collect them
I use candies to push so i can get access to more cards.
I mean me too, but figured I was just waiting to unlock ruby // have better efficiency + tools to candy skilling cards to red tbh lol
ignore my stones
Im bout to use all my candies on trying to get the Nothing trophy lol
Is a fair use for it
I was thinking I might go burn like 3k on nothing island for the buffs ๐คท
I just wish we had an exchanger or somethin because spamming 800 1 hr candy sucks
Nah just put all your toons in town then quit the game for 2 years
Trying to do more work before quitting for 2 yrs
Macro power lol. Click= Click > Space > I repeat
E? wot
Woops wrong game
Getting banned speedrun
macros = no no because people had auto clicker for boss spamming right?
rule #4 #server-rules
It's always been a thing, it says in the rules
To make this a real MMO, Lava should let us do custom "macros" in game like the other big MMOs I know he's competing against 
It's an idle mmo so he gets special privileges
we will get macros when WoW gets player housing
Im going to point out nothing there mentions macro
Macro is considered scripting
I mean true, but the only real point of an 'autoclicker' (not a script doing stuff just a thing auto clicking the same spot) would be for boss stuff.
I mean a script can also just be left clicking over and over again
i mean we got that in warlords of draenor
That didnt really count. plus it was abandoned lol
Scripting and Macroing are not the same
wow in general has been abandonned
ANd if they are beeing considered the same here it is exclusive to here and needs to be changed
scripting and macros are actually exactly the same thing just the term scripting tends to be more complex macros but in the end it's all macros
the new expansion looks like it has potential though. M+ reworking and such. Shame they screwed tanks over last i saw
no one will play it, classic is only active wow
Yeah they're def the same. Some software is mimicking the keystrokes for a macro regardless.
classic dying too from what my friend says
Until they launch classic^2 WoW
did they even chance much for m+ in TWW vs DF? don't think i've seen anything after the upgrade system changes halfway through DF
wow is a dead game, developers refuse to put money into classic cuz they refuse to admit that an older verions of the game is better than their version, and retail is just dead on arrival
nah man, i have way more fun in retail than classic
They removed a bunch of the crap modifiers no one likes, like sanguine and such. added some new ones. Still hoping they do keys with charges for people who just abandon.
oh right, forgot about that, there's been way too much news
Why is evryone here a wow frog
I think exp has potential but idk if ill go back. and i damn sure not going back to FF14.
I played during Wrath, tried again at some point and then joined shortly after DF (both perirl friends asking me to). Boy did I speed grind and then slapped some huge RNG gains in raids. And solo carrying end of raid as a blood DK was fun for a bit. But then I had nothing else to do
wdym?
pretty much every online gamer has been a wow frog at one time in their life if they are above the age of 20
Either yall to old or I'm too young then
How many things could I mean
Ive never heard anyone be called a WoW frog before. So i can understand the confusion. I just assume based on context clues
I wish FF14 combat was faster. And not story gated. I enjoy FF games (for the most part) and they're good at building lore, but joining right before Shadowbringers and having to slog through like 200+ hrs of MSQ was completely ass. Every time I go back (I tried again right before Endwalker came out), I get burnt out rushing through MSQ and barely enjoy end game lol.
I just mean you assume jumping on/off/on/off/on wow. Which is what most people do who ever played during the early days cause some xpac reminds them of the "good ol days" and honestly MMOs in general are in a bland state and probably will be forever
Ah yes wow and final fantasy frogs, I've come to the conclusion yall to old
so true. it feels very slow. plus the pvp is bad, almost impossible to get a house plot on bigger servers. and for gods sake give new FC ranks. that got totally abandoned
I miss wildstar. We didnt know what we had until we lost it.
it's a current "thing", people who watch streams on youtube are youtube frogs, ppl who play ffxiv are ffxiv frogs, people who watch twitch are twitch frogs, it's just a hip new way that the younger gengeration use to confuse the older generations
Bro u sound older then my dad
frog is just pepe, not even a new thing smh my head
i fucking hate 'smh my head'
It's peak
But it makes me think for a split second my brain is stuttering
kek
ffxiv speeds up later, the issue with ffxiv is it's like playing a mobile game full of daily chores and daily chores give u gear that's like 10 ilvls below the best in game, and for that tiny ilvl diff u have to do content that's so hard it's completely unfun, more difficult than wow raiding, but there is no middle ground, content is either painfully easy or too hard to function
are you old heads talking about final fantasy? ๐ญ
Raiding is weird in FFXIV. Combat feels slower, raids themselves feel slower, but still hard.
You sound so old ๐
ff6 is best ff
Finally some normal people
FF-X best FF
What do you mean it speeds up? I've been caught up on MSQ twice and all it is is time-gated shit until you have enough ilvl for the latest raid. And then it's jsut memorizing a raid like everything else... except you don't need 600 add-ons like WoW to tell you wtf you doinng
combat never sped up ๐ฆ
gcds stay slow but there are so many off gcd abilities that the rotations get faster
I only played dragoon before I got deep into other classes. the rotation seemed pretty simple for drag anyways, except timing jumps to maximize DPS and dodge damage
I guess IDK how it is in end game raids since I never got there.
Ide say if they where under 25~ Im almost 30 and i still remember when "do you have internet?" was a question
playing ninja was the worst thing i ever tried in FF14
Also does anyone blind raid in FFXIV outside the mega pros?
I for one always answered no
calm down old man
that was one of the jobs i leveled and kind of had fun with 
used an mmo mouse though, so i think that helped
the only people who play ffxiv for more than a few months at a time (cuz that's how long it takes to run out of all content) are creeps and erpers and furries that all live in their own made up world where somehow they feel like their behavior is normal and "ok"
Damn not evry day you can see old men calling other old men old thinking they're young
smh. I think i need to find a channel with even older people. lol
Strange lineup
play ffxiv ull see
He cant. its not fortnite
i just unlock goharu. do i go for bubo pusher as the pinned tab suggest?
i started 14 shortly after my wow guild died in bfa and some of us jumped over there. i blew through ARR in a few weeks, got a few quests into heavensward and then burned out
Ong ong unc
I feel even worse when I joined ffxiv cause I was on a tiny server, but then my cousins got me to xfer to Balmung (I think?) which has a shit ton of weirdos on it. And no way was I gonna drop $10 just to avoid the erp/furries in town. I was just going to blindly ignore everything
which sucks, since now i can't just play the free trial
Yk what they say if you can't beat em join em 
new email? ๐
You'll need prob 2 more cycles of this before you catch up to the current xpac
and maybe a 3rd timeout so you can have enough energy to do end game
OOf. YOu need a new cousin. If you want a fun experiance its Gilgamesh. Its mostly where the raiders whatnot go.
i really don't want to, but honestly just might do it
Gilga is nice. but the people can be elite toxic
just play for the story, similar to SWTOR
SWTOR was nice...until it wasnt. i had tons of fun then all of a sudden i was like nah this aint it imbored as fuck sittin on this crap swamp planetfor 3 days doin quests.
They aren't into RP/whatever, they usually try to hit elite stuff (one was gladiator in early WoW seasons, grandmaster lol, etc.). So after they had quit (it was 2 of them, brothers) I was surprised that was the server they picked
Playing through ARR again sounds god awful to me. But that's cause I want to enjoy the story at my pace while being able to queue dungeons/grind/etc.
That is true, but honestly if people are beeing elitist in the game they are bad or honestly "you're" worse. SO long as you're gear is up to the current date with the current jeweles you can do whatever. Sets arnt a thing like it is in other mmos.
im surprised SWTOR is still active enough to not be shut down. they keep putting more and more stuff behind that premium
it was...something. it was before the changes they made
I forgot they cut ARR down to like 2/3 of what it was before lol. Still sounds tough
they sold it off to someone else recently to manage
idk, i ahven't checked in a while
Reminds me of idleon
i've been wanting to play through LotRO but man...that UI
Im just waiting on them to realise their combat system is so god damn outdated. The PVP Combat is so much better and i want that to be the base experiance
fair... thats my main server llol but i used to raid a lot
How can it? Daily we see people in w5 disc alone swiping their card for coolers/oysters 
Yea dont do it. trust
did someone ask a question about goat god and then delete it?
i freaking hate ESO. its supposed to be "soooooo good" but i freaking hate it
Honestly if i can get a game between ESO and FF i'de never quit. I h ate the set system in ESO and i hate the ability system in FF (outside of pvp)
ES/DK are usually the easiest to push with due to lower reqs for boss damage.
I think if ESO had any sort of collision or ANYTHING to make it not feel like everything is fake it'd be good. It sort of feels not fully rendered half the time with the very basic movement
how does ESO feel worse than skyrim in combat lol
I didn't play Skyrim that's how
I hear there's nerding out over old people games here?
Morrowind when 12yo or bust 
is dk good for pushing? my dk lack damage compare to my es
bro, i remember trying morrowind and i was so confused. the lack of feedback when killing shit, i just stopped after 5 mminutes
I literally said ES or DK
Then people would be complaining about collision lol. Honestly i cant stand MMO's with collision. Its not like irl where i can slip between people. I have to just be at the mercy of hitboxes
Morrowind is fantastic 
bunch of old people talking about mmos that are older than ludwig
ES gets damage easier, DK will survive easier 
Stealing from townspeople, running to a giant rock outside of town and using my bow to kill the guards to rob them afterwards ๐คฃ I'd always make a new char cause I learned this one elf I could go steal some super gear from and just reroll as hit load
ah well. im gonna go back to bash zombies in the face since MMOs are dead.
yea im wondering how can dk be good at pushing cause my dk is bad
i enjoyed eso as a single player game, got to max level then uninstalled
Bro if ur 20 years old ur as old as wow, it's not that crazy being younger then it
just because your DK is bad doesn't mean it's a bad class
dk bad class, main bm
Age test: I miss Warcraft
which channel is the senor citizen channel for people 32+? lol
Mm maybe collision was not exactly what I meant. But the movement just felt wonky to me. Sometimes LoS works, a lot of times it didn't? Semed like a ton of stuff clipped through walls/corners lol
Eyo wtf
It's been like a year since I last tried and prob... shit like 5+ years since I really played?
XD ud have to watch the movie to understand the reference, watch the austin powers movies they are free on youtube
you changed your color... regular Warcraft?
So ur like 30+
My issue with ESO is none of the attacks felt impactful. I could throw a meteor at you and just feel... bleh
Yeah watch the movie little youtube frog
I will after I watch the other 500 movies I still gotta watch
IT did it for me. I hit the next milestone
Wasn't my style of game so I never played it
Tbh i spend so much time on YouTube it's fair calling me a youtube frog
- Tbf i played War2 and 3
Still a youngin 
Yeah maybe that was it lol. Maybe everything felt like a wet noodle from spells
I was massivly into RTSes i played so much age of empires
I gotta go watch that new Bad Boys still.
Damn 28 and still got War2 in? Impressed
Sorry that old ahh American movies aren't my top priority
AoE 2 still the GOAT
Ath of exile?
area of effect 2
I liked Starcraft so I could paly custom maps. Zergling bounding 
Don't get me started on PoE. Been playing that since 2013
I mean you still play 8 year old games yeh?
Not evryone is American grandpa
i hatet PoE so much. its so good but i hate it.
Yeah but not as common when we were kids to play much older games unless you went to someone's house and that was all they had.
If you dont get a HH within week 1 your whole league is scuff
less shit to play bac k then
Why did I mention another game I know nothing about, I'm shooting myself in the foot
There wont be a day where i wont bitch at the balancing direction of PoE. The same update they made maps funner they made campaign more annouying. I have never gotten to maps sense that update
Battle for Middle Earth 2 was another top tier rts
Anyone play Dungeon Keeper back in the day? Remember getting that resold in a clear case for like $3
First u watch non ci resta che piangere and the other movies with Benigni in them
no i'd rather watch good movies
I think i might pick up Dragons Dogma 2. but most of yalll too young to even have played the first one lol
They're insanely good movies, and they're older then me so dw you won't be out of place
all I heard about it was the uproar of p2w in a single player game? or something along that lines. Never heard actual reviews of the game itself
i live in hollywood im brainwashed to watch american movies, anything foreign would make me look like a hipster
But you have to watch em In italian and you have to understand italian otherwise they lose their charm
pretty sure that was all nonsense anyways. people scream P2W at everything these days because 12 year olds dont know what actual P2W is
Americans 
Oh I know italian. Sabrina Carpenter taught me that... espresso espresso espresso lel
jesus christ dragon dogma 2, $70, mixed reviews
Im having a hard time justifying getting it. Like i can still go into the first one and play it that 70$'s doesnt look appealing lol. They are pushing for their past success
im so sick of that singer and im sick of every radio station just spamming her music cuz she is too bad of an artist to actually charge that much for ppl to use her content
the first one was so good. and everyone that i actually know says its great.
The 12 years old are playing gachas and raid shadow legends, they know p2w more then p2w itself
Also The witch in the forest is wifu material and i cant imagine playing Dragon Dogma without romancing her
plus the new dragon age coming out soon too
if u want romance just play baldurs gate 3 and romance a bear
Same thoughts on Chappell Roan then?
I don't listen to pop radio / today's top hits on spotify that often. But I'll put it on every now and then, like a few songs, then die cause it's playedEVERYWHERE all the damn time
idk who that is
im too old for this young whippersnapper music and their hippity hop and their tikkity toks
im in my car jamming out to some van halen then panama ends and suddenly sabrina carpenter
Hides in Alt Rock stations
not me listening to mostly the same music since highschool
tbh yeah. which idk if that's good or bad or indifferent or what.
So like the 4 Seasons*

posted like a true ffxiv player

Yoooooo. Great one
bro do i really wanna spend $20 to watch a movie lol
Question. Am i the only one whos dumb enough to forget my game on and waist my 50 coolers because i forgot to turn off mob drops before afking?
FF14 
IIve been lucky so far and had space for them at reset
i normally just keep them till end of event and use them all then
so i've always got a spot
I cant. my ADD or need for dopamine always gets me
yeah I make sure I have spot for them before going away
Okay so doing it a second time does that mean im R or unlucky?
iunno lol. if your R we both are and i just got lucky
Hmm just popped a cosmic candy and got 377 hrs then got an achievement like 'hibernation' or something? But can't find it anywhere lel what did I get?

