lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[grand scarab]

i gotta like, clear all the shit before it respawns or whatever and dumb shit like that

[dapper root]

get some guys going on afking it because the 5m afk is coming up

[frank prairie]

i need to realistically work on those 75 gs but im way too lazy

[grand scarab]

i dont think i can afk that level

[frank prairie]

need statues > beans > gs

[grand scarab]

gotta do it active pretty sure

guess you would have too, cant clear the map if youre offline lol

[dreamy merlin]

I basically cheesed rift 49-56

[frank prairie]

how

i think i want rift 46 that would make life really easy

[dreamy merlin]

I just got all the kills on 49 while I had multikill

[grand scarab]

id be happy with 31

oh thats smart lol

[worldly lagoon]

i just want rift 61

[dreamy merlin]

Did it with 7 characters

[frank prairie]

did you schow rift

[remote rose]

Does '+skill exp' work for the divinity skill? eg. mman's 'Happy Dude' and 'Left Hand of Learning'.

[frank prairie]

nope

[dreamy merlin]

Nope, just halfway

I'll do it once bb catches up

[remote rose]

ah so i guess only the es' specific talent works for divinity exp

[frank prairie]

about to have 62% ref speed

literallywin the game

the day i dont have a salt problem is the day i beat idleon

[worldly lagoon]

yeah i wish i didn't have salt problems anymore

until the pink vial is max i have salt problems

[grand scarab]

Those are slightly different problems lol

[worldly lagoon]

his problems: i wish i had money to the ride the bus
my problems: ugh why do cops keep pulling me over when i'm driving my bugatti

[grand scarab]

Couldn’t have put it better myself

[pastel kayak]

I can kill o,apt 900k frogs a hour now is that good? @worldly lagoon

[grand scarab]

Higher than me lol

[worldly lagoon]

keep it up

it's def an improvement but u wanna try to get above 1m and beyond

[frank prairie]

need to get this up

[pastel kayak]

Can kill green mushrooms at 750k a hour now

[worldly lagoon]

Nice :D if u end up lacking money u can start farming gmush for the lab node

[pastel kayak]

Use 24 hour candy?

[worldly lagoon]

same :(

[worldly lagoon]

don't waste candies

hoard candies like you are a candy hoarding dragon, until ur close to end game and get proper value out of them

[frank prairie]

all the stamps im missing are quest locked

[worldly lagoon]

all stamps im missing aren't in the game yet

[pastel kayak]

Kills 172m green mushrooms on main now @worldly lagoon

[worldly lagoon]

Nice

getting close to that terribe 1t breakpoint.. slowly...

[frank prairie]

Eclipse sculls are a 5% damage multi

[grand scarab]

new upgrade pog

[pastel kayak]

In rift 31 right now

Bed now @frank prairie @frank prairie @worldly lagoon now

[worldly lagoon]

i don't wanna

[pastel kayak]

Now bad axel

[worldly lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-tantrum-angry-i-dont-want-to-gif-11164357

[pastel kayak]

Bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad @worldly lagoon

[worldly lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/pug-shocked-surprised-what-turn-gif-7728144274429255130

[pastel kayak]

Trying to do rift 31 right now

[worldly lagoon]

gl

[pastel kayak]

Done it on main now trying to do on my sb

[worldly lagoon]

nice

[whole lotus]

how do you have 100% chance 🥲

[strong shale]

almost done my worship obols

[pastel kayak]

Brought that pack too today but did not get

[grand scarab]

im behind on spices so my cooking is kind of ahead of the recipes im getting i guess, idk lol

[pastel kayak]

Bed now bad @strong shale

[strong shale]

naur

[pastel kayak]

Done rift 31 on main so far now trying to do on my sb @strong shale

[dreamy merlin]

[pastel kayak]

Bed too now bad @dreamy merlin

[grand scarab]

wish i would discover this recipe so i could go to sleep lol

this one only like 10% x.x

[pastel kayak]

Up to rift 32 now

[zinc torrent]

my atom production reached a new high

[strong shale]

[zinc torrent]

hourly seems good too :>

[zinc torrent]

use up that day's boron before each lv since u get those boron use back everytime u lv it

[grand scarab]

dont even think i can use it yet lol

[dreamy folio]

Where do you find that?

[open mountain]

IT

[dreamy folio]

Ok

[zinc torrent]

IT-w3-printer

[grand scarab]

rip lol

[zinc torrent]

@broken grail
i did a lil sampling

[strong shale]

Holy 28b

Oh wait is that 28b after harriep and stuff?

[zinc torrent]

yea

[strong shale]

Oh okay lmfao i was gonna say

Still hooge

[gilded sedge]

I also was gonna say

[gilded sedge]

So wait what's the base for both then

[open mountain]

why is there such a large discrepancy between your oak and ore?

[strong shale]

One has 6x the other has 2x

[zinc torrent]

4.2b for oak and 1.7b for copper, yea i hvnt booked some for mining

btw is the reroll obo stat bugged?
this happened twice, i left a 8% drop obol in there logged out and logged in it was 7% i didn't pay much attention cuz it might be my bad, and it happened again i also left a 8% drop obol checked after login it was 7%

[strong shale]

I ran out of godshard ore while candying my eclipses i need to figure it out

[worldly lagoon]

when i do heavy candying i always prep about 8 stacks of godshard ore first

[zinc torrent]

printer go brr

[grand scarab]

pog, fucking finally

[strong shale]

Oh well i got over half needed for my weap so thats fine ig

[cyan mantle]

Man I accidentally exited this spice battle I've been doing for the last hour and a half

[strong shale]

But def coulda had like 200k bars easily

Unlucky

[dreamy merlin]

You using mono or smth?

[cyan mantle]

Yeah

[worldly lagoon]

those are delicious

[worldly lagoon]

u kinda have to use mono for early spice battles

[dreamy merlin]

You did? Haven't done them in so long I forgot

[cyan mantle]

@worldly lagoon I need eggs where do I get them I'm desperate

I've done miniboss, colo and the weekly skulls

[worldly lagoon]

just wait

those are only sources unless u wanna buy from gemshop

[cyan mantle]

AGHGHGH

[cyan mantle]

What about active bm

[worldly lagoon]

u can do that too

that generates eggs faster

[cyan mantle]

Do candies work on the upgraded whale skill?

[worldly lagoon]

nope

or else everyone would have lv l20 shiny's

afk gains don't count either, has to be active farming

[gaunt ibex]

So, the hole has to be a worm boss/miniboss right?

[worldly lagoon]

he said it's a form of "infinite" end game content so i doubt that

[slate narwhal]

is divinity worth investing in over lab, for a short period of time, after I just unlocked w5?

[dreamy merlin]

Yes

You basically spend a tiny bit of time doing a bit of catchup on early things why others are on div

Them you can push again once you get lab back

[slate narwhal]

lab bonuses gone

[slate narwhal]

what would the catchup be?

also, 1 person pushing portals at all times?

[worldly lagoon]

i would suggest do diviinity until u unlock "tranqi" style, which lets u get divinity exp while not doing divinity, then when u get to w6 go back to divinity until u unlock the rabbit which lets u lvl divinity and lab at same time

[slate narwhal]

def need to change main to dk

[worldly lagoon]

oops not rabit, goat

[grand scarab]

pog, got w6 tasks unlocked

[worldly lagoon]

3 into farming > essence buffs > jade or farming whichever u prefer

[grand scarab]

pog, should be able to get at least a few things

[worldly lagoon]

i only have 9

[grand scarab]

max out summoning one?

well, i can get 4 ranks i guess if i spend the rest of my points, got 3 land plots though

[worldly lagoon]

put at least 3 into farming first

cuz first 3 give u extra plots, then summoning

[grand scarab]

gotcha, thanks 🙂

now to figure out how to make some sorta progress on farming with the extra plots lol

[scarlet geyser]

Oh Godda-

[stuck river]

so i just bought timeless

[scarlet geyser]

Guess this is as far as I go for now.

[warm pike]

There’s a lot more where that came from💀

[scarlet geyser]

I was hoping to get to Eldritch Artifacts.

[stuck river]

Which whale reacted

[grand scarab]

lol

[warm pike]

Yeah you can do that💀 just uh know it gets a lot more fun

[proud arch]

So it's at 8+ hours afk that the SB sailing loot talent is worth using right?

Iron chest claims seem so bad at 8+ and gold only gives like 6-10

[warm pike]

I just claim my chests when they have full chest storage when you claim ur afks just go collect them all what matters is speed if ur going for artifacts anywho since Im not the best person for this ask if there is a guide around here for it

[proud arch]

Going for artifacts tho I only claim 1-3 times a day typically and iron chests cap quite easily in 4-6 hours

[opaque herald]

ive heard people say that gaming procs faster in w5 town yet i get 1 plant per tick there while in other towns i get 15 plants spawning per tick, am i misunderstanding something?

[tranquil gorge]

Anyone able to suggest some direction on where i should be going for more damage at this point? https://mantissa.idleonefficiency.com/ specifically for the dk, trying to push early w6 but feel like im at a wall. Got most alch bubblesnto around 70% and combat stamps dont feel like they do too much.

[ripe ledge]

alchemy is the way to go, ill be honest

[proud arch]

Have you checked your idle review ?

Are you doing hourly clicks for stat bubbles ? What's your atoms like

Have you checked if your cogs are optimized ?

Construction mastery does do some work

[tranquil gorge]

Atoms are low, I want to grind alchemy hard but im not sure what bubble specifically I should push. I have most of the scaling ones.

[proud arch]

Dump what you can afford into each day

[tranquil gorge]

Yeah cog board is optimized from cogtimizer, Ive only just started to notice the DKs going parabolic now so might let that ramp up. I dont actually have construction mastery from rift

I dont even know if I can push rift that haed

[proud arch]

I do 30 in stats cause my atom is barely over 3k a day with 1b oaks an hour

[tranquil gorge]

The +1 stat bubbles youre referring to i assume?

very first one?

[tranquil gorge]

This only matters at giga endgame. It refreshes every 1sec at the town vs every 5sec from the codex. if your groe cycle is still over 5sec it wont matter

[proud arch]

Yeah it's all I can afford

[proud arch]

Have you done your meals with a max vman food talent yet ? I gained over 800 meal lvls because of it

[wise compass]

Hello I have unlocked w5 quite recently. I have unlocked 2 gods, i have made my other chars lab slave while my main pushes w5. Should my other chars grind lab/divinity for now or should I level them first? My main is lvl 200 while my other chars are only 100. I have doot pet btw.

[stuck river]

What is your main

Also r u a lucky bastard or a giga whale

[proud arch]

If you can't push rift that hard. W6 is to hard for you

[wise compass]

My main is a DK. I bought 2 packs with green gems on it and got doot on those lol.

[proud arch]

Get all your gods unlocked so you can utilized arctis buff with your doot and begin pushing or use goat and LVL lab and divinity on enough people to use full lab

[stuck river]

WHY DOES HE NEED GODS UNLOCKED WHEN HE HAS DOOT

But the lab statement is true

[cyan mantle]

Team this is 500 trillion days

This is if I had the spice

[stuck river]

Pretty sure not

[cyan mantle]

It is

[stuck river]

I went from 41 trillion days to 48 days from unlocking the spice

Wait no that's the same meal

So also 500 trillion days

[cyan mantle]

3 unused spices

[wise compass]

Yeah this. That's why im having second thoughts on just letting my chars rot in the lab. So my target now is just increase lab levels? Should i use all my other chars on that or just a few of them?

[stuck river]

Every single one of them

U can use 3d printer for resources

[wise compass]

Even the main pusher?

[stuck river]

The suggma ballers

[stuck river]

Aside the main pusher ofc knocks your head

But

Before you start I have a question

Show me your dk stats

[wise compass]

Here. It is still weak lol

[stuck river]

Nvm phoenix wings

You're 15x more damage than i was in early w5

[wise compass]

Kinda loaded with pack items lol

[stuck river]

Double that and you're good to go ig

Check the pins for more information

Second one tbs

[wise compass]

Alrighty thank you for the inputs man. I really appreciate it.

[alpine yacht]

If my cannoneer is on 1 talent tree where he is focused on damage and not the sailing, and I do my sailing progress will I still get it as if he was on the sailing tree stats?

[warm pike]

That’s the damage I was at kattlekruk with😭

[warm pike]

No but if have any siege with the sailing stats it still classifies for every character as long as you have them on

[heavy prawn]

You should gave those golden hanpters equipped on someone. They're doing no good sitting in your inventory

[wise compass]

Yeah you're right! I just thought they are too few to make a difference lol

[tranquil gorge]

Ive got about 5k laddles and most meals at diamond plate. I should probably push some meals though

whats the strat for cooking after I have them all at diamojd plate level? Do i want to just push the lowest level meals for more blood marrow stacks?

[scarlet geyser]

I have almost Chowed W1-5. Just got Crawlers and Wurms left and I don't think I can do Wurms yet.

[proud arch]

In a nutshell. Though push all your meal speed first. Then work your way through the list

I ended up doing 2 sets of 400 because of it

Wouldn't hurt to push all your ships to try for fury relic if you can

[tranquil gorge]

I see. I think ive done most of the meal speed i can, besides super chows. Also need a lot of TD levels

[proud arch]

Have you upped your squire talents ? They do so much for con

[tranquil gorge]

im doing that next, ice got the base fury relic. been trying to get eldritch AD tablet for like a week

RNG has been terrible

and yeah i have

[proud arch]

Same xD

[tranquil gorge]

ive gotta be atleast 3x rate at this point lol

my captains are terrible though. not msny good ones showing up

[proud arch]

I used all my wind as well on attempts xD

[dense forum]

All eldritch soon™

[scarlet geyser]

Guessing with these numbers, it ain't worth trying to get the 5m kills in the Rift >_>

[proud arch]

That's hella worth xD

Don't forget multi prayers

I sent all my people at a rift.

[scarlet geyser]

Shame all but 2 of my characters are currently labbing it up.

[proud arch]

Did 30k-100k per and knocked the hard ones out in a day

Get them arctis

Double check with both kill rate prayers and that's still only 2 days

[dense forum]

What rift you at?

[scarlet geyser]

Want to get to 31 for Eldritch Artifacts.

[proud arch]

I cleared construction mastery with 5-40b damage tbf only took a few days from 1-41

[dense forum]

Btw for afk rifts. You can put multiple chars in there to accumulate kills

[scarlet geyser]

I know.

[dense forum]

👍

Should be doable then

[scarlet geyser]

Shame half of my characters only manage something like 40k/hour.

[proud arch]

Your BB or SB will do hella good kph

Are they using fibers and the other multi ?

Stick nobisect on BB and a SB

[scarlet geyser]

No, they don't use the prayers.

[proud arch]

Why not?

[scarlet geyser]

Mostly because they were previously pushing late W5 and I was worried about the def drop.

[dense forum]

Neglect

[proud arch]

Food covers Def

[open mountain]

because fibers is a joke prayer that doesn't give much damage

[proud arch]

If you don't have multi tier it improves your kph a fair bit

And sometimes with it does as well

[open mountain]

if you can reach another tier sure. Most times it's never enough to get there so

[proud arch]

It's putting in hella work in w6 for me

[open mountain]

oh wait nevermind I thought fibers was the damage prayer

yeah if you aint reached multikill yet and your overall kpk sucks then fibers might do something

[proud arch]

Nahh fibers steals damage xD

[open mountain]

this is infinitely better than fibers though if you just focus your mainstat a bit

[proud arch]

Kpk bubble only at 73 just don't have salt to burn. Rest are talented to 150+ with only 10-14k mainstats

Still need nullo salt. Only got 3 magma sets(upgraded vman to Kruk) rest use skilling gear

[whole lotus]

What's the best place to farm Instablab Follower and Cloudsound Followers of the 7 figure followers quest

[open mountain]

that's more than you'll ever need that bubble to be at fyi

that bubble is the single largest scam in all of alchemy

[junior dune]

The other trash bubbles are obvious trash

Not that one.

KPK in general is a scam. It only affects base kills before MK making it near useless. Only charred skulls has an appreciable effect

Both the pristine charm and the ballot bonus for next week are real bad

The skull talents are the only kinda significant one since we can get so damn much stats

[silent flame]

does suggma recipe even exist

[proud arch]

Rip xD

Damn gold beanstalk is insane

[silent flame]

real confirmed

[junior dune]

It isn't that important to get tbh but it does exist

[junior dune]

Should have read another message

[fierce cargo]

hmmm do i get bubble broth or stamp stack

[junior dune]

Stamps all the way

[open mountain]

stamps for sure

[open mountain]

Beanstalk is nice because I finally don't need a spreadsheet to find my gold food bonus anymore

[heavy prawn]

I did it with 20k-50k per character. Put 6 characters in

[whole lotus]

.

[stray hull]

whats the best thing to buy from killroy? most things seem just ok tho some are better than others I guess

[oblique lynx]

i just hit world 5 😄

[open mountain]

pearls

definitely pearls for sure

[stray hull]

hmm

arcade balls are more tempting for those buffs, heh

but im also quite a ways from like class xp being a 'slow' thing to gain

[solar seal]

welcome to w5! make sure to read the 2nd 📌 , particularly the divinity primer as it has a lot of good info

[worldly hinge]

Put all your chars to divinity altar asap °∆°)9

[olive sluice]

weird bug, have been using my vman for the last week to unlock the last area (the one where you kill the white cattapillas after the boss room area, got it down from 3 millionb kills to about 1 million and now its back up to 3 million kills again? only thing i did was a speed run and a few otehr things

is that a known bug?

and its weird cause on the card it only says ive killed less than 100? yet its two silver stars in the cards...

[solar seal]

What happened to my 12M gmush kills on my VMan? Why do I have more/less maps unlocked on my VMan? Why do I suddenly have 2M kills on maps I've never entered before?
This is a byproduct of having used the 'Speedrun' mechanic. VMan will immediately get all portals unlocked up to the furthest map you currently have unlocked by anyone other than the VMan (this is also a way to get +1 count to every spirit lock in W6). Every associated mob's deathnote count for the VMan will be set to the bigger number between either 2M or whatever is required of the portal (currently only the 2nd half of W6). This means you will lose 10M from your gmush death note total while having every other W1-W5 mob set immediately to 2M.

[olive sluice]

i dont know what that means?

sorry have a mad headache and not feeling well so cant brain properly lol

[proud arch]

Lava is just bad at some code

Tldr

[solar seal]

I'm not sure how to explain it more. I have these written responses to be clear about things. What part is still confusing?

[worldly hinge]

Yey another stuff I have to research on ^∆^)

[proud arch]

They want tldr not a wall of text

[solar seal]

tldr: its not a bug, this is how speedrun works

[stray hull]

its literally 3 sentences, the tldr version is "its not a bug"

[olive sluice]

so basically thanks to speedrun it plays silly buggers with kills etc.. that part i got

[worldly hinge]

I want the wall of text °∆°)

[proud arch]

Spaghetti 🍝 code

[solar seal]

its not spaghetti code

it literally is how speedrun works

spaghetti code implies something isn't working right

[proud arch]

It's spaghetti code by design

[stray hull]

well sure it is how speedrun works, except the fact that it alters global records is what makes it spaghetti code

[worldly hinge]

I don't even know how the maestro skill talents work and here's vman =~=)

[proud arch]

This is lava 101

[olive sluice]

so should not use speedrun anymore?

[stray hull]

no, use speedrun

its just a 'dont expect the gmush kills to magically return on vman'

[worldly hinge]

Speedrun is essential my guy for a vman

[stray hull]

as was said, it isnt a bug, proceed as normal

[solar seal]

i'm guessing you are using vman to complete the mole quest. that you still have to get kills for that on vman - but as far as opening portals goes, you never have to open a portal again on vman. you open it on anyone else, use a speedrun and vman has it opened as well

[worldly hinge]

Wow so vman multi kills is applicable to other chars ? •0•)

[bleak gazelle]

more like what happened to 700m of my tremor wurm kills

[stuck river]

Anyone can help out a bit on my terrible dr

[solar seal]

you don't have to do a full speedrun, as long as you activate speed run - it triggers it all. if you want to end a speedrun early, simply got to starting room for any party dungeon (easiest in w3) and it'll remove buff and end speedrun early

[bleak gazelle]

Use this
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l3RFWq1Zypqkfby1YncOkuY_K4aSist14KUK5dJQ3as/edit?gid=1005058354#gid=1005058354

[solar seal]

if you mean the talent in vman tree, yes it applies to all. everything in the bottom 2 rows gets applied to everyone

[olive sluice]

originally my vman was lvl 155 (cause he was skilling) while rest of my toons map pushed, got to a ponit there all lvl 350ish and i pu them in divinity/lab grind so now im pushing my vman up levels and maps. just discovered speedrun and noticed he unlocked maps, hadnt done speedrun this week while trying to unlock last map and lost the kills required they went from 2 mill back to 0. its ok, will just redo it and unlock before speedrunning again.

[stuck river]

This will help a lot ty

[solar seal]

please read what i wrote. you are losing kills cause you need ANYONE ELSE to open it for you

if vman is the 1st to open a map - and you do a speed run - you will lose that portal

[worldly hinge]

I want my vman T0T)

[solar seal]

vman should never be 1st to open any portal

[olive sluice]

ahh that makes sense

[worldly hinge]

But here I am progressing in w6 first cuz I wanna catch up ;-;)

[solar seal]

you are creating 2x work for yourself by having vman be first to open portal (not to mention vman is likely 2-5x slower to open it than anyone else)

[stray hull]

vman dmg is so garbage lol. the last dude I would want opening portals

[open mountain]

he was never intended to be good at it

[stray hull]

its literally a reason why he gets open portals as freebies

[open mountain]

vman is a support character for the rest of your roster

[stray hull]

because he isnt supposed to be pusher, he is a booster for your roster

[proud arch]

Vman hard carries everyone else xD

[stray hull]

more like shoves from behind the scenes 😉

[proud arch]

Vman is the waterboy

[olive sluice]

funny enough he is nearly my highest toon now lol, he is now in lab 🙂

[stray hull]

"pay no attention to the vman behind the curtain"

[proud arch]

I need to get vman out doing more crystals

[stray hull]

https://tenor.com/view/good-one-jim-carrey-smile-sarcasm-laugh-gif-4958042

[olive sluice]

i appreciate your help 🙂

[stray hull]

that being said I do really need to upgrade vman weapon but they are just crazy expensive compared to the rest lol

[solar seal]

not to mention having to farm the rare recipes starting in w5

[open mountain]

if you're looking at weapons as the main way of looking for more damage, you're searching in the wrong place

[sharp mauve]

The purple gloves is sufficient for me to max W1 - W4 Vials.

[bleak gazelle]

finally did my apples

[stray hull]

I'm def not

[open mountain]

good

[stray hull]

Yea I've def gotten a few while I was running characters through there but I haven't really checked to see what I do or don't have.

[bleak gazelle]

@solar seal just took one overnight to get it, not bad

[stray hull]

Need to go back and farm a storage chest I'm missing tho. But I think that's w4

[solar seal]

you tricked me with low starting count but good rate. 🥳 gz on finishing emporium

[bleak gazelle]

i'm just waiting on this now

[echo crag]

god ranks are not fun to push lol

[bleak gazelle]

[bleak gazelle]

i'm just glad i found a 100% pretty fast for this one

[solar seal]

10b 💀

[echo crag]

i'm debating going for my 25% or just take the 5% option in my case

my 25% is around 33,000M to reach rank 6 💀

[proud arch]

Anyone know the wormhole hp scaling ?

Debating if it's worth moving gear for potentially 5x more damage at most

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, not looking forward to beyond rank 4

pretty sure every 10 mobs is 2x hp?

[proud arch]

So at best I'll get an extra 20 wormholes

That is 10%. Guess I'm moving gear

[solar seal]

you gonna max the next mob one? useless untie rate

[bleak gazelle]

eventually

[echo crag]

its pointless on its own, but vial mastery is so good

[bleak gazelle]

just got it to rank 12 since i'm doing some schows on bb

[solar seal]

ah true, mastery

finally got my honker to 13 so gonna get my turtles to 13 now. slowwww grind

[bleak gazelle]

i just decided to go for turtle over honker

i should probably change a few more traps, but oh well

[solar seal]

i did turtle to 12 but getting to 12 took forever which is why i swapped back to finishing honkers, got some more farm bonus while i was at it and now turtles is going pretty smoothly

[echo crag]

trapping farming for vial is such a pain

[unkempt fable]

looking for sources / discussions about nobisect's scaled skill efficiency passive blessing + the difference between divine knight's orb and elemental sorcerer's wormhole drop rate boosts. did anyone ever talk about those things in depth? i'd like to understand how they work

[solar seal]

weew das a lot packed into one line

[bleak gazelle]

i was confused for a second

like dang, what kind of tech is this

[solar seal]

nobi blessing scales inversely to your skill level - it acts as a pseudo catchup mechanic - but once you have multitool stamp, the bonus gets far outshadowed by the stamp imo. maybe nice early, but nothing amazing once you can easily power level up skills on w5/6 nodes

[teal lynx]

Short explanations, because idk if we have indepth guides

Scalled efficiency: It gives you more efficiency the less skill levels you have on a specific skill. There is a minimum of 100 (?) efficiency you always get from it - No idea at what level that is tho

ES Portal: Every Portal kill gives you drop rate. This is additive (?) to your Drop rate shown in the player menu. So it's very good in early game, when you don't have much Drop rate to begin with

DK Orb: It says drop rate, but it rolls the Loot Table of monsters several times. So having a high Drop rate is recommended for it to be effective

[open mountain]

scaled skill eff:
The less eff you have without it, the more you get from it
the more eff you have without it, the less you get from it

Orb: isn't even DR, but instead gives a 1% chance per 1 orb kill to make mobs roll a 2nd time for loot. 100 orb means you roll twice for loot, 200 orb means you roll thrice for loot per mob.

Wormhole: it IS DR, but only affects the mobs spawned by wormhole. It seems to be multiplicative (or at least better than additive) with the DR you have.

[teal lynx]

^ idk about Portal being multi dr. But maybe?
Seems a bit op

[open mountain]

I seriously doubt it's additive considering how easily a few portals fills my inventory with mob loot

[bleak gazelle]

my first one

[junior dune]

I'm unsure how it works.

Could be additive and just generate so much since you kill a lot of mobs quickly as well

[bleak gazelle]

nice little jump (afk prayer on)

[unkempt fable]

i think part of the mob loot effect is that ES/wizards have a multikill per tier boost on the "mana is life" talent and wormhole automatically respawns regular monsters for every portal monster you kill

[whole lotus]

gonna cross 1 mil storage?

[unkempt fable]

i did not know that thing about Orb being multi roll rather than + drop rate, that's very different and useful to know. thanks everyone!

[junior dune]

That looks small tbh? I have like 3.5M with zerg on

Oh wait I read rucksack on

[solar seal]

this is why specifically dk's are kings of crystal spawn farming and minibosses. since you roll x more times per limited spawns

[bleak gazelle]

stamps are only at 220 and 92

[junior dune]

380 and 100 here

Rucksack is easy to level and was what I did when I didn't have other stamps planned

[open mountain]

and also because of the way that loot rolls are inherently coded in the game, making 2 rolls more effective than "2 times loot" for anything that's inside of bags

[junior dune]

The best thing about the auto review stamp section is that it seems to be made for exactly my carry cap

[bleak gazelle]

gee, i wonder why

[junior dune]

Yeah I have no idea

[proud arch]

Kinda wish we had way more obol storage

[junior dune]

There are gemshop purchases for that if you really want it

[proud arch]

I have them

It's not enough

[stray hull]

man, pet breeding is gating me so hard atm lol.

[proud arch]

Wait till you meet sailing

[stray hull]

already have

[proud arch]

Have you done 2m splicing runs ?

[stray hull]

but it doesnt 'feel' as bad with sailing

[proud arch]

Nuggets and artifacts 😅 I'm so down bad. Breeding was a dream

[stray hull]

not really the splicing thats the big issue its the unlocking pets at this stage. though pet power is certainly a problem

[unkempt fable]

at least you don't have to fight rng pokemon battles in sailing (:

[proud arch]

That's just a matter of better eggs and active BM

[stray hull]

well the gold nugget thing is another story, lol

[proud arch]

Rng ? Trasher removes all rng

[unkempt fable]

Trasher? i barely know 'er

[stray hull]

sure if one HAS that lol

[proud arch]

Beat them before alchemical helps as well xD

If your eggs are bad just active BM a few days and pop some dreadlos

Heck gold eggs can do work

[stray hull]

that requires the egg quality upgrade first of course, yea

[proud arch]

If you don't have that you hella rushed w4 and just need time and statues xD

And tons of meals

[stray hull]

I hella rushed w4-6 in fact, yes. meals are catching up well finally tho 😉

[proud arch]

Then your at a self created wall that will sort it self by halloween

[stray hull]

lol makes sense

and I should say I didnt really rush w4 itself, but once in w4 I rushed through it and into w6.

[proud arch]

I fear for your damage xD

I felt mine was to low and I yolkd w4

[stray hull]

indeed you should ;P

[proud arch]

Damn I came back at 5-30b

I active cleared w5 when it was released on bubo. Then stopped till last week xD

You have so much room to gain

[stray hull]

ive been active a ton whish is why I was able to rush so quickly

[zealous pagoda]

👀

[proud arch]

Op

[frigid swift]

hax

[proud arch]

Buy em both

[stray hull]

basically been permanently active on DK since I was halfway through w3.

[zealous pagoda]

both with boat speed and one with rare chest and the other is loot value

[cerulean hemlock]

i rushed a lot from w3 to w5, now i just have the first 3 anvils tab, should i got the fourth and 5th ones?

or just keep rushing till w6?

[zealous pagoda]

I am not advanced in the slightest but I would, rush to w6 cause it gives good bonuses in the long run! and then focus on backracking

[frigid swift]

it does. unless you have to blow through thousands of hours of candies because your are too low.

[proud arch]

Couldn't be much better r

[frigid swift]

no matter what you need ~35m dmg to kill kruk

[stray hull]

yea I rushed the worlds to unlock the mechanics since everything there is a time gate and now its catchup time

[proud arch]

35m comes quick dw

Just make sure to sample along the way mman will carry you

[stray hull]

yea it surprisingly does honestly. had that before even half way to kruk personally

[tribal snow]

What is the command for gaming skill guide?

[proud arch]

Apparently I had it in w4 pretty early from my old SS

[zealous pagoda]

just check the pins I think should be there somewhere

[proud arch]

Alchemy carried everything to the point I'm shocked bubo is so slept on these days

Liquid gains help so much

[zealous pagoda]

while cooking, sigils dont gain any points

[magic peak]

New tiers?

[zealous pagoda]

unlock in emporium at some point

[solar seal]

there's not really any guide specific to gaming. is there a specific question you had? in the beginning its just pick when you can/remember and upgrade what you can with more sprouts > more bits = speed until much later into gaming

[proud arch]

That's fine xD. It's only for a small period you cook

Unless you got maxed sigil gain you can let it sleep and even then it's 6 months

Cooking would delay it by what a week or 2 tops if you cooked the whole 6?

[stray hull]

I def dont give bubo the love it deserves and really need to dig him out for some good cc, last attempt went very poorly so havent felt ready to try again but I know I am just missing out

[proud arch]

It carried me hard on w4-5. Heck it puts work till I stopped pushing w6 it is my gold carry. It's at 50 cooking 😅

[zealous pagoda]

wdym 50 cooking?

[proud arch]

American tipper

I got 50 cooking for it as bubo was the best for gold at the time

[tranquil gorge]

Does anyone know what sort of damage I need to be able to do this rift? And what classes are ideal for it? Was thinking 2x ES and 2x SB

[proud arch]

I needed like 30-40b

I have mega Crits

[tranquil gorge]

Hmm shit

[proud arch]

It was a huge wall

[tranquil gorge]

i have around 25b but no megas

[proud arch]

Mega helps a ton

[tranquil gorge]

Well I have megas but only 110 crit chance

[proud arch]

Do you got choco?

[tranquil gorge]

Nah thats why I havent done statue farming.. Its in in 50 days

Im keeping count lmao

[proud arch]

Damn

[tranquil gorge]

Which classes did you use for it?

[proud arch]

My 2 sb not idea who the 3rd was xD and I think BM or bubo

[shut jewel]

Anyone got a rough idea how many more Keys you get farming Wurms with es over bubo? If I want to stack a ton of keys is it worth the trade off of not farming alchemy at the same time?

[proud arch]

Personally I would just use bubo xD but I'm hella bias

[tranquil gorge]

Im suprised you did it with a bubo lmao

[proud arch]

Why bubo rocks them ?

[open mountain]

I would guess 10x more per time unit

[tranquil gorge]

Isn't bubo terrible for single target

It's good for covering the entire map and killing everything but sucks for single

[proud arch]

Why use single target ? It has huge aoes

[open mountain]

why does this matter?

[shut jewel]

Oh wow that would be quite substantial

[proud arch]

The aura does mad damage xD

[tranquil gorge]

The mega monster is 1 monster

[open mountain]

what mega monster

[proud arch]

It also has a triple hit

[tranquil gorge]

Im talking about rift

[proud arch]

The one before construction mastery

[tranquil gorge]

Does the bubo aura hit the same monster multiple times?

[open mountain]

OH lmao nevermind

[proud arch]

It's a major DPS check

[open mountain]

alot of multiple times yes

like 2 or 4 tics per second

[proud arch]

Bubo is carry

[tranquil gorge]

Hmm ok well I'll see how well I go tomorow, finishing off the 5m kills for the vial mastery, everything else from 36-41 is free just takes time

Might get another 2 equinox scims upgrades inbetween there.. hopefully pull some dps from somewhere lol

[proud arch]

I haven't bought a single one yet xD

Everything else just seems better

[tranquil gorge]

😮 why? it's huge

Its 10% MORE, like your entire dps goes up by 10%

[proud arch]

It is a lot xD just nuggets and slow roast, killroy, all seem better

Heck even Px length sounds better

[tranquil gorge]

Yeah i want nuggets and slow roast but Im hard time gated atm

Need 4x dungeon max talents or 140 shrine levels is taking me ages

[proud arch]

I'm stuck in w6 now. I am back tracking for 1250 pearl shells for tools, then 21 golden twine ( I sold hundreds doing 450m floms on bubo D:)

Damage would be huge 🤣 tho it seems just a matter of time and Ill need px length desperately when I get deeper into sneak

[tranquil gorge]

Yeah i've neglected gear a lot. In early w6 and half my characters are in dementia/have plat tools lmao

[proud arch]

Would hate to lose another char

[nova lynx]

Neglected? I upgraded to dementia/plat/void tools AFTER w6

[proud arch]

I got skilling gear and no tools but sampling ones

[tranquil gorge]

Yeah i just got sampling ones

[proud arch]

Didn't even bother with poop tools

[tranquil gorge]

Gear feels like it does nothing, all stats from elsewhere

[nova lynx]

extra tools will help your dmg (and skilling). feels good stat sticks

Main reason to push gear is for troll+ where you get % all stat, % mob respawn, etc.

As far as I understand it

[proud arch]

Magma gear vs a lustre set gave my ES 3x damage tbh

[tranquil gorge]

Yeah I know. But I have plat tools on everyone now, which all have 3 slots. It would take me weeks to farm the pearls to get 4 slots on each tool which would be like +10 mainstat at best if I hit it with stones

I'll probably go for troll and magma gear asap tho

[proud arch]

Nullo salt

Pearl seems quick. I get 1-2 an hour

[tranquil gorge]

Whats ur DR?

[proud arch]

10-12

[nova lynx]

Void and Lsutre have 4 slots. Starfire is where you need pearls and is 5 slots

[proud arch]

I got 9 people at clammies ATM

[nova lynx]

And your archers have a shot at +1 slot 🙂

[tranquil gorge]

Ooh, i should probably get void then.. I'll wait for divinity pearls to get everyone to 50 in everything lol (filthy doot owner)

[nova lynx]

9 people and you're getting only 1-2 hr total?

[tranquil gorge]

They can roll +1 slot? i thought it was just stats

[proud arch]

Divinity pearls should not be Uber wasted xD

[tranquil gorge]

I've already maxed cooking and lab on everyone so

[proud arch]

You can hit 50 with 1 candy on a w5 skill spot

[nova lynx]

Oh you're right. I think maybe PO box allows +1 slot?

[tranquil gorge]

Even for off brand skills? like catching on mages?

[proud arch]

Yeah

Fishing is the only expectation it takes 1-3 Candy's per map

Cause you have to do the lvls spots

And fishing XP was awful prior to 3rd spot

[nova lynx]

Can go active AFK in equinox for 5mins for lvl30 then go to seasalt island

[proud arch]

I forgot about equinox

[nova lynx]

Equinox fish is broken lol

[proud arch]

To late

[tranquil gorge]

^The vials great too

[nova lynx]

When I resample (this weekend prob), I need to remember to sample equinox so I can max the vials

Tbh all of the equinox vials are pretty solid.

[terse verge]

If you sample fish - remember to check for all 4 values

[proud arch]

I'm near max on 2 vials for equinox fishing is stuck at 11 for now and I'm slowly pushing pearls to 13

[nova lynx]

There are diff values on equinox fish for sampling? o.O

[proud arch]

Yeah

[terse verge]

Equi fish exist at all 4 depths. So you want to ensure you see all 4 values to ensure you have the best one

[proud arch]

Also beanstalk is absolutely insane

Do fill it up asap

[nova lynx]

Oh that makes sense. I didn't think about the depths existing in equi since it is just a singular fish

[nova lynx]

I need to get a bigger bag so I can drop a stack of 10k

[proud arch]

What's stopping you ?

Hampter?

Can you get close enough with glass shards boosting your carry caps

Or the prayer

[nova lynx]

Nah. Actually locked out by daily Sheepie Dairy from shop 🤣 Then I gotta go beat up amarok enough for meatloaf

I'm at like ~9k food cap w/ void bag

[tranquil gorge]

How tf do you even farm golden food, i have so little. only like 1k of each

[shy forge]

quick question, is magma better than kruk for skilling?

[nova lynx]

Go bubo at wurms. You'll have 10k grilled cheese first, then golden hamps behind

[proud arch]

Crystal mobs or es

[nova lynx]

But the main strat is crystal mobs

[proud arch]

Magma is for snapshot cause all stats.

Kruk loses all stats

[tranquil gorge]

Another reason I need choco 😦

[nova lynx]

We gotta wait 2 more months

[proud arch]

I got 3 spare you can have

[shy forge]

I accidentally made all my magma kruk cause I can. now i have to wait for salts...

[proud arch]

Bah just don't snapshot xD

Upgrade into marble

[terse verge]

If you dont mind doing the 2min claims - upgrade 1 set into marble

1 set for each stat for your sampling purposes

[proud arch]

I need to start that tbh

[shy forge]

Hmm ill see if I can actually handle upgrading to marble. gonna be for awhile just gonna afk idleon xD

[terse verge]

The marble set stays bis for samples until we see what gear emperor provides. Chance it might stay bis until w7

[nova lynx]

Just need to reroll 2 bronze pops to +3% and get 16 more drops then I'm done pop farming but need a lot of frags too

[proud arch]

I do wonder how long till salts take off. Seen people with 2200 red salt lvls

[open mountain]

it takes off after 22 or whatever level you reach the 1m salt cap

it just gets progressively better until suddently you have over 1k salt levels. It never actually feels like a "takeoff"

[tranquil gorge]

Oh it caps? nice to know.

[open mountain]

the amount of salt needed to rank up caps at 1m, but you steadily increase the amount of salt produced per cycle

which is why some people get 1m red salt in less than an hour

[tranquil gorge]

ooh nice

[stray hull]

man ccing is pretty painful without high book level it feels like

which I know is a big point but still

[sonic sentinel]

I'm struggling with this world boss even switching to my ES? any tips/things to focus on for more damage?

[stray hull]

are you manually killing the moles? its basically a battle of attrition with eventual victory if you have the min dmg met

[sonic sentinel]

I'm trying to boost dmg

not sure which bubbles/things to focus on my skills are max book for the moment

[nova lynx]

What lvl are your talents and what do your talents look like? To do Kruk at min ES dmg you need to prob respec

[sonic sentinel]

probably need to work on that not to sure what to prioritize

[stray hull]

the bouncing spell is goat

why do you have skill eff talent on fighting build?

[nova lynx]

Go respec your talents, that is a mess for anything you're doing

[sonic sentinel]

I know just don't know what to respect to

[nova lynx]

You have sub 40 all your tab4 talents which re your bniggest dmg, ofc you can't kill Kruk

kk gimme a sec I'll tell you what to respec

[sonic sentinel]

tyvm! the one guide stopped at like lvl 100 for skills

[nova lynx]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml#
This one isn't the best but is a pretty solid starting point. Your key issue is having skilling and fighting in the same preset

You have two, so separate them so you can maximize points.

[stray hull]

dont put points into this on respec fyi

[sonic sentinel]

tyvm I think it's because my book lvl at that time and never respect

[stray hull]

and these should be lowest priority for dmg build

[sonic sentinel]

I'm sure if you saw my toolbox you would cry

[tranquil gorge]

How many ladles/day should I try get to before i go for the 100k ladles dream?

[stray hull]

and you probably dont need points in this at all

[grand scarab]

GM w5 chat :).

Damn… my obols still fill up even sleeping only 4.5 hours lol, I really need more obol slots :S

[proud arch]

Charge rate would be best to max even on damage

[stray hull]

lol mine was full this morning too and wasnt even trying for obols. but hey shards at least

[proud arch]

I am 22 xD

[stray hull]

sure but after all your dmg talents are maxed

[grand scarab]

need shards asap :S lol

[proud arch]

Honestly I would rather charge rate over those. Souls are hella needy

[proud arch]

Those are great for shards

[stray hull]

sure but not if I was stuck trying to kill kruk is what we are working on here

[sonic sentinel]

prepare for the facepalms

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=moocha_gg

[stray hull]

this personally is my 'combat' build

[proud arch]

Just the mana overclock being maxed would solve it

What's wrong with the ice shard?

[nova lynx]

General info - green max, red remove completely, yellow see details. Others not touched you can fill in as needed with spares if you want
on tab 2 - lightning/fire put at like ~40/50, your eye (top right) only do after all the greens are maxed.
on tab 3 - yellow is only as good as your bubble, don't need that at lvl 131 now. Also worth pumping laval erupt/tornado before any
on tab 4 - max lightning/chainbolt/wormhole (spell 14). You don't need portal for boss - keep at 1 if you want it on bar but it does nothing in bosses - and meteor isn't that good but still useful for mole clear. Max meteor after lightning/chainbolt/spell 14. You can put div (spell 11) down to lvl 4 - don't need to waste 20 pts there.

[stray hull]

its really slow and I have plenty of dmg attacks to stay within cooldown limits

[grand scarab]

ayyyy, i can do pet stuff now i think?

[open mountain]

not maxing charge speed on tab 3 is a mistake. It should be green

[nova lynx]

You want to stand on top of kruk and have your lightning barrage (tab 4) be your main thing hitting him everytime

[open mountain]

or is this some talent build specifically to beat kruk? Like full damage monkey mode?

[stray hull]

the person is struggling with kruk, yes

[nova lynx]

This is his dmg build, he can max charge speed after if he wants. But it should definitely be back burner to any dmg

[open mountain]

my bad

[bleak gazelle]

full monke

[sonic sentinel]

wow...I'm loving the advice it's helping my overwhelmed self for sure!

[grand scarab]

monke good

[nova lynx]

Honestly just removing a lot of your skilling-only stuff and shoving points in the dmg stuff you were working on would prob let you beat kruk

But the link I sent above will help you with general guidance on fight preset vs skilling preset

oh yes, it's in the server so I can use it

[sonic sentinel]

with my whole roster which is amazing!

[nova lynx]

Yeah if you haven't had a good talent guide, that spreadsheet will def ramp up your whole roster. It def isn't optimal at every stage, but is a good starting point.

[grand scarab]

hopefully can push close to 31 rift before i gotta go to work D:

[sonic sentinel]

tyvm everyone my upgrades so far

[bleak gazelle]

alright, 2 more mat bags and then 8 weapons to grind out hampters for

[echo crag]

then rank up to vial to lvl 4

[nova lynx]

hows your sheet dmg looking?

[bleak gazelle]

oh, actually just

[nova lynx]

make sure to max out wis on tab 1 😅

[nova lynx]

[sonic sentinel]

not sure what else to spec into haha

oh wow this after the first tab alone

still have 100 to spend on tab 1 to

[nova lynx]

This is the power of stats - is why people suggest putting tools (even ones you aren't high lvl in) because they're free dmg stats

Really, really beneficial early on

[sonic sentinel]

for sure tools are a great boost

[gentle furnace]

If this is your main es then max the 14th talent on tab 4 on your other es

[sonic sentinel]

my only es

[gentle furnace]

2 bubo?

[sonic sentinel]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=moocha_gg

[nova lynx]

They buffed lvls needed for chars Jaegar - so may not have 3 mage yet

[sonic sentinel]

2 dk

[gentle furnace]

Oh okay

[sonic sentinel]

I do have a char I need to make

should it be a es?

I've been so overwhelmed had this guy sitting

[nova lynx]

2 dk, 2 sb, 2 es is the current meta

[nova lynx]

when Lava drops new class tier it may change, but prob not.

[sonic sentinel]

I will definitely be making this one an es

[main quarry]

!gear

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[grand scarab]

Imagine when new classes drop it completely flips it and somehow like 2 bb, 2 bm, 2 bubo meta and we’re all screwed kek

[worldly lagoon]

Just buy reset tokens

[grand scarab]

Fair lol

[worldly lagoon]

I have 3 just in case

[grand scarab]

Prob smart lol

Kek endgame chat on the spelunking train now too

[pale briar]

where recipe 😭

my troll shoes just look out of place under the kruk armor smh

[broken bridge]

can anyone help me to get more dmg like tips

[grand scarab]

well, on the positive side, maybe Lava will be more on the ball now with events because of the fomo shop?

[nova lynx]

Yeah I think the assumption is he'll put 3 elite class swap tokens for 1 gem each or w/e in the FOMO shop so people don't get screwed out of it.

[grand scarab]

😮

[worldly lagoon]

1 gem each lol

This is lava he will put them in a $50 bundle

[grand scarab]

holy shit it dropped

i can finally clear my fucking bags of those stupid fucking rings pog

[worldly lagoon]

Now make 20 rings

[grand scarab]

i can already make like 8 lol

[worldly lagoon]

And 10 shoes

I use the divinity shoes from new minibosses over lab shoes though

[grand scarab]

alright, got rift cooking, time to figure out this pet battle bullshit now that i got that mustache bro

[worldly lagoon]

Gl

Think non laggy thoughts

[grand scarab]

why do you need him? doesnt even seem like you use him according to guides?

nvm reading hard

[fossil thistle]

Where's W5 hole at

[worldly lagoon]

Looter uses all abilities (mostly) u have unlocked

[grand scarab]

i dont have 5 slots unlocked yet so i didnt scroll that far down tbf >_>

[worldly lagoon]

Sir stache gives looter eggshell ability

[grand scarab]

so just run the comp to get the 5th slot then try to send wave 200?

[worldly lagoon]

Just get a high power borger

[grand scarab]

no borger yet 😦

[worldly lagoon]

Uhhh

[grand scarab]

/sigh

[worldly lagoon]

Maybe monolith, coffee, sand giant, looter?

[grand scarab]

left to right?

[worldly lagoon]

Looter and rattler in back

Highest power in front between other 2

U need tanky in front since no tank (borger is tank)

[grand scarab]

?

[quick swallow]

Anyon here can help me with sailing ?

[worldly lagoon]

Sure hopefully ur stick is high powet

[quick swallow]

Wait what ?

[grand scarab]

rip lol

[worldly lagoon]

was responding to bjorn not u

[quick swallow]

Oh ok

[grand scarab]

should i try to get the borger with a 1/18 shot with base eggs? or just wait un upgraded eggs until tomorrow you think

[worldly lagoon]

for sailing best advise i can give is to focus on leveling ur ships not discovering artifacts, if u rush artifacts ur ships will fall behind, ur sail speed will be shit, and ull get artifacts slower than u would if u just focused on ship speed, push as far as u can while leveling ur ships consistently and eventually ull hit a point where ur ships won't be able to progress speed wise, then backtrack back to the start and push their speed/loot more

[worldly lagoon]

i usually do 1/20 chances are better so why not? worst case scenario u try again tomorro

[grand scarab]

youre the man axel

[worldly lagoon]

ok so try to get a 10k+ borger, higher the better

and use this comp instead: looter>rattler>coffee>borger

[grand scarab]

there we go

[grand scarab]

gotta wait on daily reset for another shot at arena

[fervent marlin]

if im already in world 6, whats a good level to grind to for divinity and lab?

[grand scarab]

1 more hour, then hopefully progress

[grand scarab]

40 div / 75 lab, to start

[fervent marlin]

damn

[quick swallow]

Is this good for aincent fury relic ?

[worldly lagoon]

idk man i don't think anyone actually knows the numbers

[quick swallow]

If you can lan lvl 120 for All char becouse of the 3 juwels you get in sneaking

[quick swallow]

Tmm

[wild osprey]

i am confused again, printing this gets me at most 250k/hr i only started printing like 17 hours ago?(maybe less) and its already greenstacked

[worldly lagoon]

it's 210 not 120

[quick swallow]

Ik but He wanted a good Level so he can push first

[worldly lagoon]

no point going past 75 until ur pushing the jewels

[grand scarab]

then why not go for 140 if youre gonna do 120 lol

[fervent marlin]

im already in sneaking

feels so weird leaving them in lab 😭 i basically have nothing to do but dailies

[quick swallow]

Ok but it is late sneaking

[grand scarab]

you can use the pink pets in battles right?

or nah?

[fervent marlin]

try it

[pastel heath]

You can

But they are kinda useless

[grand scarab]

i mean, i know you physically can, i was more wondering if they still had their abilities though or if the breedability shit overrides it

[pastel heath]

No they got the ability to heal

[grand scarab]

lame

[fervent marlin]

does anyone else hates BM

[pastel heath]

Me

He is my personal friend

[grand scarab]

eh, im working on breeding rn so BM not too bad rn lol

[pastel heath]

Jk

[fervent marlin]

all my chars are at least 300 while my BM is 100+

hes my slave for dailies

[pastel heath]

Mine is like 530 but he is just for carrying stuff

He got his inv full of just random stuff

[fervent marlin]

bm is js the middle child fr

[worldly lagoon]

i consider my Bm my main tbh

[frank prairie]

my pc auto updated last night smh

9h of statue farming gone

[grand scarab]

RIP

[grand scarab]

i just got burger and mustache for pet battles Edvin D:

[frank prairie]

got this ancient in 1 go

[grand scarab]

massive

[frank prairie]

not bad

[nova lynx]

🤷 he has the freebie item each time. Maybe the first one is 1gem and the other 2 are $50 bundles 🙂

[frank prairie]

big damage

[worldly lagoon]

the freebee is never related to the patch, for instance current limited, freebie dungeon cards but the actual event stuff is expensive asf

[nova lynx]

Well he ain't giving people freebies on an event. That's the only reason behind FOMO gem shop. But a patch where he gives no indication of how to properly line up the classes would make sense for him to make it relevant to the patch

I ain't counting on 3* 1gem swap tokens, just saying it could happen to some degree.

[worldly lagoon]

unless ur on discord u have no idea what classes to pick

so many ppl have 5 warriors etc.

on top of it almost all documentation on this game is made by players, lava doesnt even involve himself in wiki

he doesn't care at all how in the dark we are, a lot of the updates he doesn't even tell us about

[grand scarab]

is there a list of usefull early game vman prints to snag so i dont miss stuff this run? cant find anything on google

[nova lynx]

🤷 I mean sure that's a fair argument. But anyone who has 5 warriors obviously isn't reading shit in game. The class peeps tell you starting in w2 to diversify and with the even bigger char lvl reqs for new slots now, you better damn well understand it's prob worth choosing everyone since they get different specialties. The biggest class bait is probably getting 2x vman at some point thinking they'll diversify more rather than 3x every base class

[frank prairie]

intresting

[nova lynx]

everything to keep refinery running is top prio for vman early. So your other guys can print what they specialize skill in.

If you want something else to print, snake skin is worth for vial. IDK about a tier list/guide though

[grand scarab]

yeah i know, i just keep forgetting random like vial mats and shit like that

[worldly lagoon]

the week after he released info that 3 new classes were coming to w6 he put 3 elite swap tokens in gem shop at full price lol

[nova lynx]

Snakeskin will be a top prio sample for me next speedrun. Then prob just walk through the vials 1 by 1 myself

[nova lynx]

Yeah I remember, but still pretty irrelevant since the classes weren't released. I think more of a mental FOMO for peeps who want to be prepped.

[grand scarab]

damn, getting that new checkout speed meal cut my time to 20 in half, thats crazy

[worldly lagoon]

im just saying, he tends to care a lot more about fomoing money out of us than being fair

he knew for a fact those elite swap tokens were worthless at the time he put them up but he knew we'd buy due to fomo

if he can make profit he will, he won't make an update that needs elite swap tokens and then just give them away

[nova lynx]

I mean I'm learning this more as I play longer. Guess I didn't care cause was too broke (and don't swipe) to worry about tokens rather than world upgrades lol.

[worldly lagoon]

if u wanna play this game f2p just set up ur acct to be able to farm massive amounts of w5 keys so u can do ur 300 a day boss kills for gems and ull be fine

[nova lynx]

That's my sorta end game goal tbh but I've been fine managing gems w/o daily bosses too. Obviously still got a huge list of gem purchases to make

[vale fox]

Glublins are good imo, for card drop chance

[wild osprey]

if i have enhanced left hand of learning, happy dude at lv469 do i still put points into maestro transfusion?

[vale fox]

Idk tbh do a test

[frank prairie]

even if dk orb is the not at the map its still there with the ability active yes?

[grand scarab]

I would prob for trapping/worship but not 100% on that

[vale fox]

I think its a visual bug if that happens

[grand scarab]

Well, rift pushing, got new pets unlocked, now just need to get chopping and speed run prints done before work and it’ll be a pretty productive day

Need to get prints on fairies today too so I can get anvil tab 5 going, prob gonna do full bug prints on my next day off though so I can work on bubbles :S

[oblique jasper]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOO I HAVE MASTERED THE WAY OF THE WHALE

[worldly lagoon]

but find him a friend

[grand scarab]

Gz bud

Too bad I gotta fomo this dumb fucking event, no pet summons for a couple weeks

[frank prairie]

got this from pmush this week

[wild osprey]

what is fomo?

[grand scarab]

Fear of missing out

[wild osprey]

oh

dont think ive ever seen that used else where

[grand scarab]

I did the DK orb shit for that for the first time today lol, got my lab ring recipe

Ahh, maybe a US thing if you aren’t from US? 🤷🏽‍♂️

[wild osprey]

im from canadia

[oblique jasper]

ive heard of it, just never seen it used as a verb lol

[grand scarab]

Weird, pretty common phrase lol, who knows

[worldly lagoon]

fomo is mostly used in gacha games and finance, if u aren't into those 2 things u likely don't know what fomo means

[grand scarab]

Ayy, I only play gacha games pretty much and I’m a finance major, checks out lol

[nova lynx]

fomo is a standard phrase/term for people in US

[oblique jasper]

and social media documentaries

[frank prairie]

i lose 8 hours of statue farming and he gets doot

[oblique jasper]

wrong reply but ehhh

[grand scarab]

Right lol

[worldly lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/world-sucks-real-world-adulting-adult-gif-12296873

[frank prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-should-been-gif-23901254

[grand scarab]

It’s gonna be so funny when one of us pulls it to see how far ahead they get with it

[oblique jasper]

I thought i was gonna get slug the roll right after doot. unfortauntaly it stopped right before it at ram

[grand scarab]

That would have been insane lol

[frank prairie]

i guess this is pretty good

[nova lynx]

That looks nice

[oblique jasper]

i mean tbf i didnt get a single roll after sheepy ever since i got t5 treats

30ish rolls and not a single pet after sheepy. the odds of that happening are probabaly no less than getting doot

so my luck suddenly swung the other way and voila, doot

[grand scarab]

Bro, I got like 9 sheepies in a row, I don’t wanna hear shit lol

Imagine spending 40$ and getting nothing but sheep and beans 🤡

[oblique jasper]

imagine if you could upgrade pets into a higher tier

that would be amazing

[grand scarab]

I’d have like 3 doots by now with all the pets I’ve recycled lol

[oblique jasper]

like 3 beans will become a multi, 3 multi into a sheep

[oblique jasper]

fr

honestly i bet the outrage over pets would be like 5x lesser if that was the case

[worldly lagoon]

I just want a sandy pot

[oblique jasper]

dang did you get locked out of it?

[worldly lagoon]

Yup

[nova lynx]

Well pity doot would be way less than 200 if that was the case.

[oblique jasper]

i have like 3 untradeable ones i want to get rid of

[golden apex]

guys imagine waking up and finding this just staring at you

[worldly lagoon]

Every time i look in the mirror

[grand scarab]

suffering from success over here, fml...

[golden apex]

.

[oblique jasper]

shoudnt need to spends hundreds on pity doot in the first place

[grand scarab]

no fucking fragments to upgrade shit hardly

[nova lynx]

burn some for frags. That's why I'm at sandy pots rn

[nova lynx]

If he set Doot @ $100, then he doesn't get as much money from everyone on the gamba

[oblique jasper]

i feel that, someone just told me to kill chiz for obols to fragment. like bro, i dont have 50x dr like you lmao

[grand scarab]

oh shit, good idea kek

[nova lynx]

I got all my pop obols but can't merge (and lose 90% of them) until I have more frags lol

[grand scarab]

so close to finishing another page

hopefully i can get a sparkle rn

[frank prairie]

finally lmao

[grand scarab]

psyche

[oblique jasper]

i mean the discord has 150k ppl, and if 10% spend 10 dollars a year, he makes 150k annually.

so its not like hes dirt broke or anything

[nova lynx]

We said sandy pots is best place to farm for frags (cause you get dice and glass shards) on ES right?

[nova lynx]

Tbh if I made a game as good as IdleOn I wouldn't want to make just 150k/yr for it lol. But do I need 1.5m/yr? nah

[grand scarab]

how else lava gonna fund all his whaling in maplestory?

[nova lynx]

I'm not defending the ridiculous pity doot cap at all. Just saying if he allowed merging then peeps owuld have Doot way "cheaper"/earlier

[frank prairie]

bro it takes days to level up shiny pets?

[oblique jasper]

well ig its fine rn since i just got doot. I get some time to wallow in doot superiority

[vale fox]

Just confirm ing, my duplicate Elites should be SB, DK, ES?

[grand scarab]

can use active bm for it

[nova lynx]

You will wallow in this superiority complex until you quit IdleOn

[frank prairie]

2% faster ref small ws

[oblique jasper]

im still awhile away for now

i dont even know if i will hit endgame before w7 releases

all i know is resampling got hell of alot easier now

[nova lynx]

Omniphau being passive alone will make your gains skyrocket tbh. Then 6x print for everyone no matter what they're doing, 30% AFK gains from snek, etc. etc. IDK where you're at, but assuming you're anywhere behind me you'll surpass me real quick lel

[frank prairie]

yeah the atom production with doot is insane

[oblique jasper]

ill unlock 6x print deity in like a day

gonna be big

[grand scarab]

dont even have to unlock em outside of cat god anymore

got everything active with doot besides cat

i mean eventually obviously to level em

[oblique jasper]

what does my div progress look like with doot now anyways

[nova lynx]

You only have to unlock Purrmep for the minor bonus (+50% boat speed and gaming plant grow speed)

[grand scarab]

same pretty much, just way easier to do it lol

[nova lynx]

You rush someone to lv 50 div for Multitool stamp from pig quest. Then you can sorta do w/e you want with div. You need to still level it

[grand scarab]

soon 😄

[nova lynx]

And you need to unlock the gods to be able to level their blessings.

[oblique jasper]

alright so pretty much nothing changes

atleast regarding the way i do div

[nova lynx]

I mean... yes/no. You still need to camp div/lab at some point for levels in both. But you get way more boosts on everyone and tbh you can throw people on the exp (tranqi? i cant remember) off altar one earlier imo.

[grand scarab]

tranqi goated

[nova lynx]

If you're camping lab ever though, might as well put them on a better div style.

[oblique jasper]

how does it make you get to tranqi earlier?

[nova lynx]

I'm saying if you aren't going to lab camp (since free bear) you can go to tranqi earlier on a number of chars since you don't get div pts with tranqi. Since you have all gods unlocked (except purrmep), you don't have to hard focus Div God unlocks really.

To min/max, yes push to Purrmep to get the minor link. But other than that, you're sort of free to do w/e you want.

[oblique jasper]

How does camping in lab heighten the time needed to get to tran qi? shouldnt make a difference if you have goat right?

[lucid sentinel]

just unlocked matching scim and slow roast wiz b2b

[nova lynx]

I'm not saying you speed up your time to tranqi. I'm saying once you get tranqi you don't need to lab/goat camp like non-dooters do for a long time to be optimal. And since you have every god unlocked, you're getting everyone's bonus rather than throwing your div alignment away to goat so you can tap into both.
As far as div prog goes, the only benefit of Doot really is if you get it before goat is unlocked. Then you can put people back in lab while you work on div.

Doot doesn't do much to speed up Div. It just makes Div OP for you.

[oblique jasper]

i see thanks

[golden apex]

hey guys this worth it? (510 gems)

[oblique jasper]

now wheres my 10x dr div

[weary gulch]

Nah

[oblique jasper]

nah id spend gems on oysters

[weary gulch]

Buy the oysters if you want points

[frank prairie]

used 200 ladles to unlock this

[nova lynx]

Damn Edvin how far are your spices? I need to do mroe spice battles and catch up to you on the cooking game

[frank prairie]

my kitchens are too weak now it takes too long without better spice

which i need the next spirit lock

[nova lynx]

Dang guess I'm behind you like 3 spices or so

but somehow I got more coking. Maybe you need to unlock the atom buff?

[frank prairie]

missing out on big gains in summoning

[frank prairie]

yes and schows

[nova lynx]

I have like no schows lol

[vale ruin]

Yellow number:!

[frank prairie]

i have 1 because i wanted to get a superchow before someone in chat

and i used 5 12 hrs to do it on gmush (worth)

[frank prairie]

what is your kitchen stats

[frank prairie]

okay your fire is better than mine intresting

i guess the atom buff is big

[nova lynx]

Bruh you been spending all your spice 3 in luck on kithcen 1 rather than speed kitchen 2?

IDK the strat but speed > * for me

[weary gulch]

Level that luck my man, it still gives overall speed

[nova lynx]

probably will next few claims

[frank prairie]

speed doesnt really matter too much no?

[grand scarab]

why arent you leveling luck if its so cheap?

thats free cooking speed

[frank prairie]

but i guess that its cheap to level for cabage

[grand scarab]

might break 1t cooking speed today

[frank prairie]

ima push for atoms now since im done with 2 vials i was working on

[grand scarab]

whats your vman prints? i need to do a speed run here in a minute

[grand scarab]

then log prints

[nova lynx]

This is I think my big buff over you. Maybe farming buff too? I have like 29 crops ulocked

[frank prairie]

improve your mk

[grand scarab]

whats the slime for? stamps?

[frank prairie]

how many level 30 plates do you have

[frank prairie]

alchemy

[grand scarab]

ahhh

[frank prairie]

better bug prints

i accidentally wasted guilded stamp today was pretty tragic

[grand scarab]

so since i can only get w1 boss on my speedruns, pretty much just push to amarok asap, kill him, then go do my sampling?

[frank prairie]

i need to save carry cap but used it on leaves

[grand scarab]

speaking of that 😄

[grand scarab]

gettin fuckin expensive now :/

[frank prairie]

thats why i was waiting for guilded stamp lol

[grand scarab]

lol, i think i get that next rift

im on 25 rn, killing the 5m while i do other shit

so if i have multiple chars on that map can i just cheese it and use the kills to unlock the 5m kills for 30 or whatever like toki was talking about last night? or does that not work

[golden apex]

Hey guys which one is the pong mini game?

[grand scarab]

i have like 4 chars farming it lol, i might try it and see what happens

[frank prairie]

level 20 and this

[grand scarab]

the level 20 one has controller in it

[frank prairie]

decently far into gaming

[grand scarab]

you wont get it for a very long time though lol

[golden apex]

Im level 18 so just wanted to know if I would get it yet

ty

[frank prairie]

maybe like 2 weeks away

[grand scarab]

really lol? i must be bad, i havent had mine all that long and im over 100 kek

[frank prairie]

what are these used for

[grand scarab]

rare one is vman weapon iirc

wish this shit would hurry up, should prob log out because im prob desynced anyways lol

[strong shale]

Unlocked glassy and got 12 new crops instantly