#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

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sharp mauve
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Making Vials and Worship lv 120 harder to grind

solar drift
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20 focking day

dreamy merlin
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when your candying that ends up happening

sharp mauve
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Cause Big Bubble underleveled

solar drift
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ye it is

dreamy merlin
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especially somthing big like schow/eclipse

frank prairie
sharp mauve
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Just keep update skulls and let individuals use their charge

frank prairie
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this costing this much is insane lmao

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in particles

sharp mauve
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Worry that later

solar drift
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hm pichu do you know the first threshhold of startue exp ?

sharp mauve
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Nope

solar drift
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pain

dreamy merlin
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im just waiting for salt rn to upgrade more (yes im using siphon, i want max vials and im to lazy)

sharp mauve
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Btw Worship lv also increase Charge cap

dreamy merlin
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fr?

sharp mauve
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Just above Call me Pope

frank prairie
dreamy merlin
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oh right

sharp mauve
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It is not super big but useful

solar drift
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what does the 36 mean ?

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36 more level ?

sharp mauve
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Tbh I have no idea

grand scarab
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To hit your set threshold, I believe so

solar drift
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oh yeah

sharp mauve
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only 36 to hit 90%,what's ur thereshold

solar drift
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75

sharp mauve
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Oh lol

solar drift
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i never used the system

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i put it on 85 now

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since im gonna sample all of them later on before going to holiday

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oh hell naw

crimson thistle
sharp mauve
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Check sources of New recipe cook speed

small sparrow
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this is my first time at equinox, what to do now

sharp mauve
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Unlock whatever is available atm

small sparrow
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20 green stack

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aww hell nah

sharp mauve
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Logs and ores

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W4 W5 items

frank prairie
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use shorter time

crimson thistle
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just takes forever

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probably need better kitchen levels

small sparrow
grand scarab
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it is indeed

red mauve
dreamy merlin
teal lynx
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8th grade math tbh
E25 is just 25 zeros

small sparrow
solar drift
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is 38 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 0

crimson thistle
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first kitchen

dreamy merlin
red mauve
grand scarab
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? thats the same thing

solar drift
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yes

crimson thistle
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the numbers in this game hurts

dreamy merlin
teal lynx
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Damage at the shimmer island changes to E0 at E30 happytroll

crimson thistle
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100QQQ

red mauve
grand scarab
dreamy merlin
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why qqq and not just sx like most games grumblo_ugh

solar drift
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i mean most of the time i dont know why there is 1000m when it could just be 1b

grand scarab
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so quintillion quintillion i guess lol

crimson thistle
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q is quadrillion Q is quintillion

grand scarab
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oh quad, duh

dreamy merlin
crimson thistle
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k m b t q Q Sx Sp Oc No

grand scarab
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so if 2 q = quintillion how is it not a number lol

dreamy merlin
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and the 3 q is supposed to represent sextillion or smth

crimson thistle
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scientific is just better for everything past 1T imo

dreamy merlin
grand scarab
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xD

dreamy merlin
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just be like other idle games numbers grumblo_ugh

crimson thistle
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like clicker heroes being at e300 gold lmao

dreamy merlin
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i remember i played a game called dps idle which gets very big numbers

grand scarab
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i like how he did gaming with the numbers, new color good

solar drift
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also imagine he bring out a ring that change your dmg colour like maplestory

grand scarab
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lol

solar drift
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1 more gold twine and i will never see this tentacle bullshit again

scarlet geyser
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Getting the next mutation is getting kind of annoying :/

frank prairie
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is there a statue farming doc?

grand scarab
frank prairie
frank prairie
grand scarab
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we gettin there l0l

grand scarab
frank prairie
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for crystal farming

graceful atlas
grand scarab
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uh, mob respawn and wisdom %, my stars fucking suck tho

graceful atlas
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Then got the next in 2 tries

solar drift
graceful atlas
solar drift
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but im checking off the list on what i need to farm now

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since 3 weeks holiday will give me plenty of nutto salt

frank prairie
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how is this for crystal chance

dreamy merlin
frank prairie
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i would think quality improvments would be the highest

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id how i did it but 10x dr

solar drift
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lmao hes taking so long to all the number HAHAHA

past creek
dreamy merlin
grand scarab
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lol, i like how the 0s just flying

frank prairie
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i improved

dreamy merlin
frank prairie
solar drift
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what was the collosseum change

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wasnt it just removing skilling ?

frank prairie
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i joined when owl first came out

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which i personally was a fan of

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just needs a max buy or needs to be a quick access

open mountain
scarlet geyser
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Finally got myself yet another weapon upgrade. Gonna go ahead and immediately farm the Hampters for an upgrade for my BB as well.

grand scarab
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if you could do owl/roo from quick ref id love it, so annoying having to go all the way back lol

frank prairie
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and a max buy would be nice

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i like those idle game mechanics of number go up really fast

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but the fact i have to stand there and do nothing is really not it

grand scarab
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its a nice low stress change of pace thing to grind imo

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dont have to worry about changing gear or cards or any of that shit, just go make some gains for a bit then go when you get bored

pastel kayak
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@grand scarab this morning main was under 490m now over 530m is that good?

dreamy merlin
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10% dmg in a day Grumblo_Pray

grand scarab
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big gains 😄 keep it going

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do that every day for the next like 7 days and youll break 1b 😄

pastel kayak
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Will not happen has in world 6 trying to level to 400+

frank prairie
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new drip for the dk

scarlet geyser
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This is what I was concerned about :/ Guess it's time to grind out those 35 keys needed.

frank prairie
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you dont seem to be a fan @grand scarab

grand scarab
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get on that chiz grind 😄 i gotta do the same thing lol

frank prairie
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the helmet gives dr

dreamy merlin
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get kruk if you want drop rate grumblo_steal

frank prairie
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maybe in like 10 weeks

grand scarab
# frank prairie

oh thats kinda sick, didnt know that tbh, never made any efaunt lol

frank prairie
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at this rate ima just force construct mastery for the ref speed

scarlet geyser
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Yeah, any higher tier equipment is way, way beyond my reach because my highest Smithing is still only 67.

frank prairie
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huh

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go candy your smithing

scarlet geyser
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I don't really need to right now because I can't make anything that requires anything beyond 67, tbh.

frank prairie
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anvil reset all speed
candy gmush
anvil reset all xp
collect then repeat

scarlet geyser
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And that on an Archer, I am presuming, not Vman.

dreamy merlin
frank prairie
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which ones

scarlet geyser
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Actually, question now about the Summer Event.

frank prairie
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the ones that are level 71 ... with his 67 crafting?

scarlet geyser
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Y/N? As in, would these work or not?

past creek
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No

scarlet geyser
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Dammit.

dreamy merlin
sharp mauve
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Bcs of Cooler and Lava did not want to code a way around it

teal panther
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Is the summer break shop the same every summer?

strong shale
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Last summer event didnt have roo/owl

strong shale
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Bags that give exp but arent expensive

tranquil gorge
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Anyone grab the tome upgrade frm event? how is it

strong shale
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Its ok

scarlet geyser
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Debating if I should grab the stamp or bubble upgrade first.

strong shale
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Prio seems to be stamps -> bubble -> dmg -> equinox

scarlet geyser
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...assuming I get the Event Points which, knowing my luck, I probably won't.

strong shale
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You can use the gems u get from the coolers to buy extra golden oysters

scarlet geyser
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Like, I've already resigned myself that I'll get 16 Event Points and that's it.

strong shale
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Stamp would be your best bet then

scarlet geyser
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Alright.

strong shale
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Are you f2p? Or do you have the bundle for no stamp left behind

scarlet geyser
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Again, I'm just being realistic with my luck.

strong shale
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Ofc expect little

scarlet geyser
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I did get that bundle, yes.

strong shale
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Okay, so itll add an extra 3 levels to that stamp

dreamy merlin
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it doesnt do 2 stamps? damn

strong shale
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Imagine hitting 8 on refinery speed or something

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Nah it doesnt, it stacks to +8

scarlet geyser
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I see.

strong shale
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Which makes it less op for p2w

dreamy merlin
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doesnt matter for me since no bundle anyways

strong shale
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Yep

dreamy merlin
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also it might just be me, but the bubble doesnt seems that useful to get imo, at my point id rather even have equinox

scarlet geyser
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...okay, I did decide to buy one oyster right now.

frank prairie
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lets see what happens in the mornig

scarlet geyser
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Oh hey, +1 to Slab.

strong shale
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Also thats op

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17 golden oysters and 500 coolers loot

solar drift
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damn

scarlet geyser
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That +1 to Slab unironically did actually help a fair bit v_

jade fossil
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summer event kinda busted

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for me atleast, candies and gems galore

tranquil gorge
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This is certainly a LOT of candies

jade fossil
tranquil gorge
scarlet geyser
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When did you get 500 Coolers?

graceful atlas
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You can only get ,50 coolers a day right?

zinc torrent
scarlet geyser
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Oh.

graceful atlas
past creek
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Gem

strong shale
zinc torrent
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power of money

past creek
strong shale
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Chat ring

tranquil gorge
graceful atlas
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Me when the gemmo

strong shale
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Yea 1 in 1000

jade fossil
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the summer shop is also broken

tranquil gorge
strong shale
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Per golden oyster

scarlet geyser
strong shale
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Prob gaming

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Oh

jade fossil
strong shale
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Yeah

scarlet geyser
tranquil gorge
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Man my gaming feels so stuck. havent hit a shovel upgrade in weeks, cant progress equinox due to fucking dungeon dreams. hate it

strong shale
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The tome is kinda mid because its a multi on your tome dmg% people say

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But its like on avg a 1.1x multi at like 16k pts i believe

scarlet geyser
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Honestly, my biggest problem right now with Equinox...

strong shale
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Gstacks?

scarlet geyser
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Is this goddamn frustration.

strong shale
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Or td :p

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Yeah, w5 is tough without void

tranquil gorge
strong shale
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Tough in general

scarlet geyser
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I still leak 7-8 lives on waves 48-49.

tranquil gorge
scarlet geyser
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And then the W50 bosses are too tanky for me.

jade fossil
scarlet geyser
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Not high leveled enough.

graceful atlas
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What tower is void

jade fossil
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more dmg = more dmg

strong shale
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Yea its a good f2p buff

graceful atlas
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I didn't do td in a while

scarlet geyser
dreamy merlin
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td angryuganda

tranquil gorge
strong shale
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Might just need a better setup, or kraken levels

tranquil gorge
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I just did it with 27

past creek
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Haha td

strong shale
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We love td here

tranquil gorge
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2 boulder rollers, void, frost, 2 more boulder rollers, 2 krakens all in a line

jade fossil
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like on my acc, i dont got any other tome other than the dmg one cuz i dont got money

tranquil gorge
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3 party starters at the top

scarlet geyser
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I swear I will not touch TD once I get that last upgrade in a long while.

strong shale
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Yep exactly

tranquil gorge
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This is the one pissing me off. Just time gated by like a month

strong shale
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Loool

graceful atlas
scarlet geyser
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You...know you can still run dungeons outside of HH, right?

strong shale
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Get the 2x flurbos prayer

tranquil gorge
scarlet geyser
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Yes.

strong shale
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And use dungeon cards

frank prairie
open mountain
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you aint gonna like the most time gated one of all then GuyMontag

strong shale
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Its somewhat bugged

frank prairie
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If you don’t have the runs it doesn’t give you the right amount of credits

open mountain
strong shale
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Ahhh

open mountain
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It's timegate + rng

tranquil gorge
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Yeah thats shambles lmao

jade fossil
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when does money percent increase, cuz all i get is like 50 plat coins every hour on my dk in w5 stilts

scarlet geyser
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I'll...see if I can figure something out later, maybe after 1-2 more Boulder levels. I am grabbing a few more Party Tower upgrades as well.

strong shale
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When u decide to demolish gmush

scarlet geyser
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And my bonus is still tiny compared to what other folks here are getting.

frank prairie
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Maneki cat was very big for me

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A lot of money from that too

strong shale
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Did you whale out on the event edvin?

frank prairie
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No

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Need better pack

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Even then choco just is calling my name

strong shale
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I like it bc you get back copium amount of gems from the event

frank prairie
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Hmm that is true

strong shale
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Also drop rate card

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18%? I think at ruby

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Or 21%

frank prairie
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And the card set gives Dr too I think

pastel kayak
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@strong shale I unlocked tonight

proud arch
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Crazy how strong this holiday food is xD just doubled my mining samples I did yesterday and I don't have 30% divinity for it ATM

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Did get afk prayer so I'm only down 15%

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I need to get es to grind some pearls asap

strong shale
pastel kayak
jade fossil
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whoever made the lustre mage weapon cost fucking 50k bunnies needs to be put in arkham asylum

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or whoever made the flesh ripper fucking 200k krakens, also needs to go in arkham

past creek
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WhatGuyMontag

proud arch
tacit lion
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wait till you see w6 stuff Grumblo_scared

jade fossil
proud arch
jade fossil
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w4 stuff is pain inducing nightmares

proud arch
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Worst gather was those 200 batteries

tacit lion
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ehh wut? the god things are insanly expensive

jade fossil
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im early into w5, like a month and a half in

jade fossil
proud arch
jade fossil
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imagine if they release a w5 splicer💀

tacit lion
proud arch
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They 100k blue salts seems like small work when you see how fast refine started to scale in w6

jade fossil
dreamy merlin
tacit lion
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yes exactly

jade fossil
proud arch
tacit lion
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yeah but its not a lot of godshard bars

magic peak
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best place to farm summer coolers?

proud arch
magic peak
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ou

dreamy merlin
past creek
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No?

dreamy merlin
proud arch
jade fossil
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fuck i dont know

proud arch
jade fossil
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i was expecting fucking two beastmasters

tacit lion
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lol

proud arch
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Tho godshards probably quicker then nullo xD

dreamy merlin
proud arch
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Well what do you have as your 10?

dreamy merlin
jade fossil
proud arch
dreamy merlin
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I already hate 2 bb, and they already suck

magic peak
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what should my 10th character be. i have 2 sb, 2 dk, 1 bb, 1 bubo, 1 es, 1 bm and 1 journeyman

dreamy merlin
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Es

jade fossil
tacit lion
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2 es

dreamy merlin
magic peak
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oke

dreamy merlin
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More atoms

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Slightly more worship as well ig

jade fossil
dreamy merlin
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And mage is just best prints

magic peak
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i have doothappytroll

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es it is

dreamy merlin
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Doot haver grumblo_ugh

jade fossil
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one day ill get doot as a f2p💀

tacit lion
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dootDootEmoji

dreamy merlin
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One day Grumblo_Pray

jade fossil
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is there any way to get green gems as a f2p😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

dreamy merlin
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Nope

magic peak
dreamy merlin
jade fossil
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are there t4 treats?

past creek
magic peak
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are all pet perks active all at once? or is it the one u have currently equip thats active

solar drift
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all active at once

solar drift
scarlet geyser
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Oh! I didn't realize it, but I just broke 10000m max damage displayed.

magic peak
proud arch
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I did just get construction mastery what is my next big scaling for refinery

jade fossil
solar drift
gilded yarrow
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weak for kattlekruk?

solar drift
dreamy merlin
jade fossil
solar drift
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0.85%

jade fossil
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it fot me fooled

solar drift
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is the max chance for doot

dreamy merlin
jade fossil
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some* not all*

solar drift
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well people that are "dumb" is usually newbie who got lucky or whale who dont spend much time getting more information

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so is more like lack of information

magic peak
magic peak
dreamy merlin
jade fossil
magic peak
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aw

jade fossil
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imagine having ten custards

magic peak
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imaginehappytroll

past creek
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Hell nawh

scarlet geyser
past creek
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💳💳💳

solar drift
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they will ofc have less information

jade fossil
solar drift
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dumb people for me is more like having the information but dont do anything with it or refuse to accept it

dreamy merlin
jade fossil
scarlet geyser
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Speaking of dumb, am gonna be burning 6 more tickets on W4 colloseum, mostly just for the Pet Eggs. Again.

jade fossil
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its been a month and a half yet i have lost 2 Goat 50/50s

scarlet geyser
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I swear the 50% odds are a lie.

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I got more 1% procs than 50% procs.

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But the game just refuses to offer the 100% one.

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Soon™️...

solar drift
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time for daily gems GuyMontag

tacit lion
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same GuyMontag

solar drift
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gonna buy pristine charm today

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hope is a good one

dreamy merlin
scarlet geyser
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Probably not.

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But at least I'll have it.

solar drift
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i mean he can get stamp decreaser

tacit lion
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omg 1 golden oyster gamba gave 4 grumblo_steal

crimson thistle
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anyone have a 121 goblin loadout i cant get zerg for the life of me

strong shale
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Holy... my vman can hold 2.1b mats in storage on a w5 bag wtf

strong shale
tacit lion
crimson thistle
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kinda low

solar drift
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i think

tacit lion
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i usually do this setup
top-left: (as many party as you can afford and space) void
top-right: a lot of poisonic elders
bottom: (as many party as you can afford and space) storm kraken kraken forzen kraken

wild osprey
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wanted to be clear before i sell them but i can get rid of these right? summer stones

solar drift
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how do i snapshot hp again ?

wild osprey
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oh, can do this with more th an just card drop chance?

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i learned about that like last week?

solar drift
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hp and mana for sampling

wild osprey
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must suck for sampling cause then you gotta do it for each new resource since different map

solar drift
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ah it easy

solar drift
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im not going full tryhard so i will just use food boost and card

wild osprey
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am i the only one that kinda ignores these shipments?

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i do the others(which for me is 4 since i dont have 6th unlocked yet)

solar drift
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probably the only one that ignore 1 shipments

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most people just ignore everything

wild osprey
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i mean ive been ignoring one of the mostimportant things in the game that you shoudlnt ignore but ehh, ill stop ignoring it in a bit

wary gazelle
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I usually ignore the second one because it takes wooden circles which I cant be bothered to farm for

strong shale
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Just passed 11k

solar drift
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so you should get 95% stamp everyday ?

open mountain
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you don't get more than 1 per day though GuyMontag

strong shale
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Have you printed multiple stacks of certain items to hold more than 1b for stamps?

solar drift
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btw, isnt spiritlord better at bottom right ?

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or is the % mk/t still better than afk gain rate

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240% mk/t vs 30% afk gain rate

open mountain
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why are you questioning that setup so much??? are you just not at all capable of understanding the value of mkpt?

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the infographic you're looking at was made by a person much more experienced than you, and literally every single endgamer uses exactly that setup. It's not debateable

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How about this: go to gmush, and try swapping around the cards yourself

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see what does what, and learn a little bit

solar drift
# open mountain not even close

i was asking before going to w6 but got no answer, just curious because i though you always want afk gain rate to get boost from chips

open mountain
solar drift
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yes i know that, but since im not far yet usually afk gain rate goes to bottom right or top left for me

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so i was curious why mk/t is on the bottom right

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but now i know since you answered it before

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👍

open mountain
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yeah 120% mkpt is just so absurdly better than any afk gain% card that we have that it outshines them all by pure number strength alone

solar drift
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damn time to wait for new fomo shop

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i really should have bought the discount w6 pack

tacit lion
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whats peoples kph on regular maps? like average on w1 w2 w3..?

solar drift
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bought 2 and got low rolled

tacit lion
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oh nice

open mountain
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I mean

tacit lion
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nice

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what damage like multiple Q?

open mountain
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almost 1QQQ damage

solar drift
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finally done with all card set settings, now a break then sample time 😭

worldly lagoon
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Cant even break 1qqq what a bad

tranquil gorge
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Just got this first shiny but I dont seem to have any more infinite star signs. just the basic first 5. anyone know why?

open mountain
worldly lagoon
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Its too late. Now anyone can get it.

proud arch
open mountain
worldly lagoon
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Im in bed

tranquil gorge
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there should be.more unlocked

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unless they are all the way on thr 3rd tab i should be able to see them

proud arch
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Even if you don't own the star sign xD it gets infinite

teal lynx
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Cloudsave once and see if that changes it

tranquil gorge
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Yeah i did

open mountain
tranquil gorge
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ive got all the 1sr and 2nd page so ot should show

teal lynx
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Show your starsign page grumblo_thumbsup

tranquil gorge
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ok cloud saved again and they showed

teal panther
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how did the golden oyster drop a nightshade nametag? I thought it can only drop megafeather, trash tuna and spring flower nametags

teal lynx
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Wiki has Trash Tuna in loot table, but it's actually the nightshade one

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Someone messed up

teal panther
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Oh okay

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Ty

scarlet geyser
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Okay, I did a thing and, with some of the candies gotten from the coolers, I got all W3 monsters Chow'd on my BB. Now for W4.

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Okay. Got Sand Giants unlocked as pets. Just need Snebles...

pale plover
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and so it has begun GuyMontag

karmic zealot
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i was just fighting w5 boss on nightmare got it to 100b with my void walker after 30 min and my game just reloaded

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thats so fucked up

proud arch
pale plover
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210 what?

proud arch
pale plover
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like, total?

proud arch
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Each. Or you not at the 2100 lab push

zinc torrent
pale plover
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ohhh, noooo i've just started lab for the first time

zinc torrent
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u need lab lvs 700 1400 2100

pale plover
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i'm only aiming for like, 75 all for the chip slots

zinc torrent
proud arch
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Ahh crap bossing vain is why my mob sample is so low for gmush

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Imma have to do chizoar then come back for it 😅

solar drift
pale plover
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a bit of movie magic

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it's just two seperate screenshots cropped together

solar drift
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bruh

zinc torrent
whole lotus
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is there a minimum level that i need to hit to achieve all the nodes for lab?

spiral oxide
#

is there a snail guide anywhere?

minor nova
#

guys is the timeless pack worth to buy?

whole lotus
peak verge
#

Is there a max to the skills you can buy in sneaking?

frigid swift
#

Not that i have heard of

minor nova
whole lotus
zinc torrent
#

whale watching 🐋

whole lotus
#

basically if you can afford it without needing to eat noodles for the rest of your life go for it

frigid swift
#

I dont think any pack is very expensive that ive seen.

whole lotus
# minor nova xd

and basically every pack you can like those no stamp left behind no meal left behind stuff like that

zinc torrent
#

ingame u only need autoloot and sacred

peak verge
#

How short the cycle

whole lotus
peak verge
zinc torrent
whole lotus
frigid swift
whole lotus
#

im actually trynna save for that xD saved 5$ till now HAHAHAHHA 16 more weeks hopefully

zinc torrent
#

pristine charm drop?

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ive been in w6 2months only got 1

frigid swift
proud arch
#

So how big of a difference does 3 boss kills make for vman sample ? Debating if it's worth going back for it without nobi assuming I can reach 3 bosses again

solar seal
#

very big difference

proud arch
#

Don't wanna wait a week and lose my printer build up either xD

tranquil gorge
#

Why do people start vman runs at kattlekruck?

proud arch
solar seal
proud arch
solar seal
#

i figured that might be the case, just giving you the heads up for when you get stronger

proud arch
#

Ty

sharp mauve
#

I did not use Snake for my Sampling run and maxed my Vial thanks to Hare. 🤔

solar seal
#

sounds like you failed successfully 🙂

solar drift
#

i did it

proud arch
#

Gz

stable temple
#

Why is afk gains for sailing worth so much actually? You're still gated by your loot pile capacity right?

stable temple
#

So if you stack afk gains, you end up needing to micromanage your loot pile alot?

solar seal
#

So due to beanstalk, I get 100% of any AFK duplicated as sailing time. As a result, in a 2x minimum sailing time period (for me ~3hrs), I can claim my 40 chests 10x. (I only bought enough sluggos to get to 20 capacity). I wouldn't really call it micromanaging. All I need to do is log 1st character - go claim sailing. Then as I cycle each character, I just take 1 trip back to the 1st who is sitting at the sailing docks to also claim my sailing chests.
This is why Doot is so powerful for early W5 sailing since you get benefit of being able to proc sailing time whereas non-dooters require g.hampters on all (but might not reach 100% until beanstalk).

stable temple
#

If I'm understanding right, every time you do sailing claims, you go 1st chara > 2nd chara > 1st chara > 3rd chara > 1st chara > etc?

spiral path
#

yes

solar seal
#

yes, i would just categorize it differently. i do my afk claims - then reap benefit of duplicated sailing time

stable temple
#

That's exactly what I mean by micromanaging loot pile though

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Sounds so tedious

spiral path
#

I would call it maximizing, not micromanaging

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micromanaging would be setting a timer every 3 hours

solar seal
#

maybe your definition of micromanage is different than mine. its clicking 3x on 10 rotations

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if you do'nt want to min/max sailing and have better chances at getting artifacts - you don't have to do this. but this is a game of efficiencies and incremental gains. its sort of the whole point

solar drift
#

another one Soulface

stable temple
#

I get that. I think the annoyance is that you have to physically be in w5 to do sailing claims

solar seal
#

i choose to min/max my sailing cause i don't find it that hard/tedious.
but i also choose not to min/max my sampling with hp/mp snapshotting. i know my samples are slightly worse, but i save my sanity as a result.
you just pick/choose your battles

spiral path
#

which is why you leave one character there while cliaming afk with everyone else

stable temple
#

If it was like gaming in quick access it would be perfectly fine. But I can understand that it's not possible with how complex the sailing menus are

junior dune
grand scarab
#

today might be the day 😮

solar drift
whole lotus
#

which god should i link my Vman with? arctis or nobisect

solar seal
# whole lotus which god should i link my Vman with? arctis or nobisect

you link to god depending on your need
arctis - if you require an extra body to keep nodes lit up but need/want the character out in world doing something
nobi - for vman specifically - nobi is really only used when you want a higher portal count for speedruns - you shouldn't really need nobi linked for general purpose vman use

whole lotus
solar seal
#

there is no answer to that. you link to god depending on your need

sharp mauve
#

I already done with my Vman 6 skills. So I mostly use Nobi, Hare, Purr depends on what i need

whole lotus
#

okay which god would you prefer for doing skilling upgrades

sharp mauve
#

either arctic or snake

solar drift
#

if you lose a important connection when using vman i would get arctic

#

unless someone else take his place

tranquil gorge
#

Once you're in w6 what do you really use your candies on? Just leveling your vman and chowing/super chowing your BB?

whole lotus
#

im thinking of keeping 3 character out of arctis one wizard, dk(my main), and vman lets hope i can reach the stamp one

sharp mauve
#

People who have to grind Lab/Div with Goat never hurts due to long term goal and Goat Minor link bonus

whole lotus
sharp mauve
#

They can

spiral path
sharp mauve
#

You want everyone with at least Div 40 and all gods unlocked

tranquil gorge
#

Can anyone tell me what I should do with divinity if im dooted? Do i just unlock all the gods once and leave it so i can max the minor bonuses?

whole lotus
whole lotus
spiral path
tranquil gorge
#

Yeah done that, is there any use continuing the skill?

spiral path
#

I mean, I have all of my character in lab except active farmer, so having access to mindful is really nice to get div points for god rank tries

sharp mauve
raven mesa
#

Hey guys, I am trying to work on the slab and noticed I am lacking a lot of dungeon weapons, because I always did them with wizard types. now my starting weapon is pretty high, is there anyway to get lower level starting weapons to drop? lol

sharp mauve
spiral path
#

all but one of my characters are at 90+ div by now, straggler is 88

tranquil gorge
sharp mauve
#

So if u are dooted u have more freedom

#

There are ppl criticize that grinding God Rank for extra talent levels are worse than spamming Candies to spam Bubbles.

whole lotus
#

flutter i guess

stable temple
sharp mauve
#

Not really, just the Blessing from other gods, and Multitool stamp

#

Flutter is almost useless

raven mesa
whole lotus
proud arch
#

My SB is pushing w6 is nobi best for portals ? It's keeping up with my BB pushing for the final spices. Then doing mob drop grinds while waiting on player counts

#

Or with down time snake pull more weight ?

sharp mauve
#

U could min max Vman Nature trap with Flutter but that amount is not big 🤷‍♂️ I am doing fine without ever link anything beyond purrmep

#

Nobi 2x kills.....

proud arch
#

Was debating to just run Omnip for the random buff to other activities

sharp mauve
#

Ppl used it but I just use Goat

proud arch
#

Does the 2x help with mob drops ?

sharp mauve
#

Portal kill but not rare drops

#

Extra dmg can break MK tier

proud arch
#

I'm doing 10m stacks I guess the 190 still does the job

#

Got es active at clammies now. Only 12 dr so on the fence about that or w2/w3 statues

sharp mauve
#

Do keep in mind that Goat buff other characters afk rate. Omni just rng based but affects many choices

#

If what Omni do is fixable via Candy or printer go brrrr, u can ignore it

turbid jungle
#

Is there a gem shop priority list somewhere

sharp mauve
#

Scoli Autoreview one is great. Griffy one has some questionable decision.

proud arch
sharp mauve
#

It should go well if u level shrines

#

as they are building levels

proud arch
#

Yeah just got +100 to them

#

Pushing everything I can

sharp mauve
#

Nullo salt will be less of a problem than ranking up green lol

proud arch
#

My salts are all low

#

Review says I'm at -2 purple per cycle so I'm letting it LVL up

#

So I can push nullo again

sharp mauve
#

It is close to my levels the moment I unlock Construction Mastery

#

Red is super easy to rank up afterwards

proud arch
#

When I'm around Imma have to focus shrines and stop lvling my towers

#

Till I can start overnighting shrines and tick up some lvls

#

You can't candy build time can you ?

pastel kayak
#

Main went up 25m while I was sleeping

solar drift
#

is it worth farming 100.000 ladle with this gain ?

#

😭

past creek
tranquil gorge
#

Alright am I missing something? I got the +infinite signs pet and theres no extra. These are the default 5

stable temple
#

Refresh the map

tranquil gorge
#

aint doin anythin

reef stirrup
#

Hi folks, for this event, is it okay picking the "Get +3 stamp lvl" upgrade instead of the alch bubble one? I already have No bubble left behind.

solar seal
#

the current general consensus is go stamp > nblb > equi > dmg, so get waht you can

reef stirrup
#

thanks!

sharp mauve
solar drift
#

FINALLY

#

i can upgrade my nuggets

terse verge
#

Its both a game changer and stress inducer. Welcome to true nugget gamba

unkempt fable
#

is there some breakpoint time interval where the squirrel starts giving acorns or does it never find more acorns if I'm playing active?

frigid swift
#

you can get them while active

tranquil gorge
#

WTF does this mean? Does it happen 1 or 7 times a day

frigid swift
#

Slowly but surely

junior dune
#

Used to be one but Lava made that confusing description after it was changed

serene coral
#

finally got the equinox shovel buff

#

only lvl 1 rn tho

frigid swift
#

welcome to sadness for a month then one minute of yay and back to another month of sadness

sharp mauve
#

welcome to more 3 archers claim game

serene coral
#

ive got 2 good pulls so that will probably how it will be

frigid swift
#

~10 more days

grand scarab
#

what box should i max after chopping for ES? thinking either DR or mana box

golden apex
#

Guys why is there a sub-lab in w5

grand scarab
#

theres a slab in w5? is that what you mean?

golden apex
#

Divinity

#

Same concept as lab but one person

grand scarab
#

ohh, i see what youre saying now lol

#

eh, div isnt near as bad. once you get goat you can do lab/div at the same time

#

and after 40, you dont have to be on altar to get exp anymore

simple wadi
#

Why? Because Lava felt like it

golden apex
#

Also I just got to W5 and what's the atom collider

grand scarab
#

turns every 10m excess resources in your storage to atoms which you can buy upgrades with

simple wadi
#

It converts excess resources that you have into points that you can spend on bonuses.

unkempt fable
#

construction building, takes forever to make without lab jewels

golden apex
#

The 50m one?

unkempt fable
#

yup

grand scarab
#

very last one, top row

simple wadi
#

Most people set it to convert at 1050m resources

unkempt fable
#

if you've hit w5 you should be able to farm the materials that you'll need for the blue lab jewel that's on sale next week

grand scarab
#

yeah, set it to 1050m and just leave it off. it will still auto convert for you even being set to 'off'

unkempt fable
#

10 red frisbees, 5000 garlic bread, 400 tree interior spice

golden apex
#

Btw tips for leveling up level 91 bubo?

dire anvil
#

Is this one good? I’ve never seen a green dude before but the rolls seem decent

unkempt fable
solar drift
#

im "happy" for you

simple wadi
dire anvil
#

I don’t think I’ll be able to afford it

unkempt fable
golden apex
dire anvil
#

Just kill those then

unkempt fable
#

it's easier but slower if you're playing AFK, just go to the map that gives you the highest exp with a 100% survival rate, make sure automation arm food refill is active and either leave them there or use candies

golden apex
#

I need it Lv 100 for equinox btw

unkempt fable
#

if you want to do it active you'll need the accuracy to hit crystal mobs as well because those can outdamage your recovery food/potions and kill you if you can't take them down fast enough

solar drift
#

hm any reason why i cant see this chip ?

terse verge
#

Currently you need the w6 emporium upgrade to get it. Unknown if intentional or inadvertent change with addition of w6 jewels

solar drift
#

ah damn

nova lynx
#

😮 do you know what upgrade is needed? I didn’t realize omega chip was out now

#

I’ve been farming fairies for this exact reason

full phoenix
#

Does nobisect 2x kills say in the afk info?

terse verge
#

The one that unlocks w6 jewels - very deep into list

terse verge
full phoenix
#

Ah ty

nova lynx
tranquil gorge
# grand scarab

Do you just instantly get the gem if u hit 700 total lab lvl?

simple wadi
#

Well that was a lot faster than I thought. Didn't even get the 1b kills mark yet.

simple wadi
tranquil gorge
#

He guys how do I start discovering/ gathering from islands 10/11/12 properly? obviously i understand how to send a boat to the island, but my fastest boats are like 90-100k speed and takes nearly a day for the trip.

Is there a specific boat or island i should farm for mats so that I csn get to the islands efficiently?

grand scarab
#

First boat usually the easiest because it’s just gold. My strat moving to new islands so far is pump first boat to get it fast enough then just full send that one. Move everyone else back to whatever boat 2 needs and everyone target farms that to get him fast enough to move on, then go just go down the list

#

Idk if that’s the best thing to do, but it’s been keeping me chugging along fairly quickly I think

#

Things like sailing bubble and leveling up the gods with sailing speed help too

tranquil gorge
#

mm might try. ive just been throwing boats at whatever srtifact I want

grand scarab
#

Vial as well

tranquil gorge
#

oh ywah theres a vial too

grand scarab
#

I personally don’t worry too much about artifacts outside of a couple and just get em as they come while I’m farming to speed up boats

#

Mostly because you get a ton of artifact find once you get w6 pumping so I figure once I get a few more of those it’ll be way faster to go back and upgrade everything I don’t get

#

Also, if you haven’t done the golden hampter grind yet, that speeds things up a ton too when you proc left and right lol

frank prairie
#

this isnt bad overnight no choco right?

strong shale
#

Not bad!!!

#

Thats a few onyx statues in no time

frank prairie
strong shale
#

Also fuck this new stamp upgrade

frank prairie
#

i now have no fragments

grand scarab
#

i need fragments so bad :/

frank prairie
#

So if w2 is this would w1 be faster?

strong shale
#

Correct

frank prairie
#

Nice

strong shale
#

Kinda

frank prairie
#

1/67 crystal spawn chance really made it easier by a lot

strong shale
#

Dont get it twisted though, you need that choco

#

If you dont have both card doublers that could be ur copium too

grand scarab
frank prairie
#

I couldn’t be lucky enough to roll that either

#

If I could get guided stamp it would be even higher but my luck is not that good

tranquil gorge
grand scarab
#

its pretty slow until you get choco, then it kinda just goes brrr lol

tranquil gorge
#

And i really need statues but I dont wanna do it without choco... bout 60 more days till its in shop

#

Might get the vials and bubbles out of the way in the mean time

grand scarab
#

you got your bubo going right?

#

if so, vial pretty easy, just live at oranges for a while

frank prairie
#

my dr 10.2 rn

grand scarab
#

pog

#

ayyy, nslb hit crystal stamp, lfg

frank prairie
#

pretty mid rolls from the crates

fervent marlin
#

is this rare

#

how to find the drop rarities from the coolers?

grand scarab
#

pog, pumped crystal stamp and got it down a good bit, hell yeah

frank prairie
grand scarab
fervent marlin
grand scarab
fervent marlin
#

aw

#

it doesnt really say on the wiki

#

jus tthat the 500th one guarantees it

frank prairie
#

how many woodlin spirits can be in the map at once

tranquil gorge
#

god i would kill for an auto deposit feature

grand scarab
#

ahh, thats a bummer. work on that carry cap a bit so you dont have to filter em :D. im not crazy far ahead of you and i only have to deposit 2-3 times a day

tranquil gorge
#

Yeah im grabbing pearls for a bag now. But then I need to go and make backpacks and such again... so draining on so many characters

simple wadi
tranquil gorge
#

Slowly but surely

#

I also have a lot of money now, will get a lot of stamps

strong shale
grand scarab
#

One day I’ll break into top 50% on tome I swear lmao, I gotta be fucking close at this point

strong shale
#

Yall buy your points for anvil and get yalls carry cap up

#

IT tells u the breakpoints

grand scarab
fervent marlin
#

does the bubble broth from the summer break shop works like NBLB?

#

wont that be quite op

grand scarab
#

Ehh, just another 5 levels a day to add to the pile lol, I don’t think it’s really game changing

#

I think the stamps is way more powerful

frank prairie
#

stamps are harder to level

#

without guilded stamp or discounts some of them become actually impossible

#

also i hate this quest

#

es keeps hitting auto attack passive and i kill 1-2 more than i need

strong shale
#

Try using something that doesnt have a passive

#

Or retalent

frank prairie
#

last guy is out in no time

solar seal
#

when you are close, just take off weapon and fistpunch them to death

strong shale
#

Lmao

solar seal
#

that was poor choice of wording on my part

frank prairie
#

i just need to use ES portal and only use nado and lightning

fervent marlin
#

i love life

frank prairie
#

any basica attack messes it up

#

i really want magic beans is this a terrible kph to push with

pastel kayak
#

Main went up again @strong shale @grand scarab

grand scarab
#

1b this week easy 😄

pastel kayak
strong shale
#

Just active the map

frank prairie
#

magic beans here i come

grand scarab
#

💳 doesnt hurt either i suppose happytroll

frank prairie
solar seal
# frank prairie

That is a judgment call for you to make. Bamboo is 1.1M (130B HP), Lanterns is 3.2M (250B HP). Given 2x HP and nearly 3x portal requirement, that's roughly 6x (napkin math). Bamboo alone would take you 33 hrs, and napkin mathing lanterns at ~198 hrs = nearly 10 days.
In my eyes, it isn't worth. But maybe, you consider beans justified enough to be pushing like this w/o MK.

frank prairie
#

i personally do yes

solar seal
#

Then you have your answer

frank prairie
#

maybe try and max out kpk as much as possible

#

nice first hex dice obol

#

+10% for me

scarlet geyser
#

50 more...and after that I might still need to grind 200 more out for the W5 material bag so I can complete the W4 quest that requires a Gstack.

solar seal
grand scarab
#

well... i guess the one guy i have left to untie is gonna be a breeze lol

scarlet geyser
#

I don't, but I want to complete the quest anyway so I can start working on the 50 Blitzkrieg Troll kills.

frank prairie
#

imagine not having a +32 kunai couldnt be me

solar seal
#

its a 100, meaning you need 6,000 keys

grand scarab
scarlet geyser
#

Ah.

frank prairie
scarlet geyser
#

Well, all the better to get started on it earlier so I can do it over time.

frank prairie
#

once i get 3 characters strapped up with bombs sneaking zooms

#

need better these

solar seal
grand scarab
#

lol

scarlet geyser
#

Or do you insist I don't even bother until I am basically endgame W6 at 30 trillion damage and x50 drop rate etc.?

frank prairie
#

you guys just dont care for your 11th character

solar seal
grand scarab
scarlet geyser
#

I am aware there is a large wall in that quest.

grand scarab
#

eh, if you wanna do it, do it, but its probably just not time efficient

scarlet geyser
#

Dude.

grand scarab
#

but in the end its your game/time

scarlet geyser
#

If I cared for time efficiency, I'd probably have quit the game long ago.

grand scarab
#

? weird take imo, but okay lol

#

thats all the more reason to make your time playing more efficient lol

#

ayyy, now we cookin

scarlet geyser
#

Look, the simple fact is that I generally don't care for playing "optimally" or "maximum efficiency".

solar seal
#

I think i've told you this before, but chatting in this discord - you will constantly be asked why you are doing something, particularly if it is inefficient. Because a big part of this channel is to help others efficiently farm/progress in game - you will just need to get comfortable with people asking why.

scarlet geyser
#

I play games because I want to have fun.

#

Yes, there are some things I would like to ask or check up on.

#

But, ultimately, I'm playing the game at my own pace. If I want to get a Schow at 500k/hour and don't mind the extra time, well, I'm going for it.

rich stratus
#

When does amount of coolers reset
Is it with the daily reset?

grand scarab
#

hopefully get these farmed up fairly quickly, the bonus dna will be nice i guess. idk why i never thought of upgrading splicers before lol happytroll

frank prairie
solar seal
#

its because you can finish a lot of breeding w/o the w3/4 splicers - semi low priority

grand scarab
#

Fair lol, is the boost is splicing power very noticeable or pretty negligible?

frank prairie
#

70 power vs 150

grand scarab
#

I guess I should go try to get mono speaking of all this lol, maybe today I’ll get lucky

limber gust
#

what are the best stamps to use cost reduction on?

grand scarab
frank prairie
#

im assuming more than double

grand scarab
frank prairie
grand scarab
#

Guess I can test it before I upgrade

grand scarab
frank prairie
#

how about now

grand scarab
#

Yeah, think mines a few tiers higher

#

I already did my first big dice grind tho tbf, you still working on it right?

frank prairie
#

yes

grand scarab
#

Yeah, makes sense

frank prairie
#

need to farm power statues

#

that movement speed bonus would be really nice

grand scarab
frank prairie
#

bro is ignoring his vials i see

grand scarab
#

guess i can get a couple levels lol, forgot about it honestly

frank prairie
#

you are forgetting another one

grand scarab
#

?

bleak gazelle
#

man i got so much shit to catchup on in WoW notlike

frank prairie
#

your favorite enemy in the game

grand scarab
#

oh yeah lol

grand scarab
bleak gazelle
#

dragonflight was great, war within seems like it'll be good too

#

account-wide banks and reps are yuge

grand scarab
#

dragonflight was ass lol :(. the account wide rep is nuts though

frank prairie
#

ive never played but it seems like a game i would like

bleak gazelle
#

was great for M+, don't care about PvP and can't dedicate myself to raiding, so all good on my end YEP

grand scarab
#

lol, its too painful to pug m+ after like 20

#

cba 😦

terse verge
# frank prairie

After you save enough for ms and crit for when you can onyx, just keep depositing the rest - they drop easily enough to warrant inefficient/early depositing

golden apex
#

yo guys what are nuggets

bleak gazelle
#

true, i've got a solid group so I rarely have to pug, so that helps a lot

grand scarab
#

ahh, yeah, i dont have friends

bleak gazelle
frank prairie
#

wait i think im missunderstanding what you said

terse verge
#

Choco or not

frank prairie
#

yeah i hear you

#

dont you want to stack as much as possible though

grand scarab
#

another one. already up to like 10 for my first luckier lad lol

spiral path
terse verge
#

Other statues maybe - but ms and crit are so easy to get that getting to their cap asap gives way more benefit immediately

bleak gazelle
#

i'd started a p[anda remix character to get the transmogs but then put it off LUL

#

now all the pre-patch stuff too

frank prairie
#

another vial maxed

grand scarab
#

if people stick around for more than a month or two after expansion i might come back lol, gotta fix my pc first

#

may as well play 3 games at the same time, ultra efficient l0l

frank prairie
#

working on this now

bleak gazelle
golden apex
#

btw there a way to speed up divinity?

bleak gazelle
#

early on only gemshop div saprkies

frank prairie
#

why is this so much easier than troll lmao

bleak gazelle
frank prairie
#

not bad

grand scarab
#

christ lmao, you out here triplin my damage already kek

frank prairie
#

its es so its easy to get damage high

grand scarab
#

im about to break 12b lol :/

#

ayyyyyyyyyyyyy, lfggggg

#

1 to go 😮

frank prairie
#

dna time

#

1 more till you beat breeding

grand scarab
#

yup, gonna focus on that as much as i can check it at work today and wait on silver eggs and prob go for it tomorrow

echo quest
#

off the wall question, in alchemy do the bubbles only effect certain classes or is it every class (excluding the ones like cranium cooking ect)

coral cliff
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I just rolled doot, what is the thing i need to do to get maximum gains (are tehre like doot tricks)

teal lynx
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All classes. Some classes just get a higher bonus

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Orange = Warriors get more
Green = Archers
Purple = Mages

echo quest
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okay thats what I thought, i was reading a thread earlier and they made it seem leveling only purple would boost my mages ect and I didnt think that was right so i wanted to ask

teal lynx
scarlet geyser
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I also just need to unlock Snebles...

coral cliff
frank prairie
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going to take so long to get these next two spices lmao

peak verge
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Does the sailing speed star sign stack from multiple chars? Or the arti find chance one?

solar seal
peak verge
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That's so fucking dumb for sailing speed tho... why the hell would I want it active while i'm fighting.

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I know it's not a problem with infinite signs but still.

coral cliff
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for when ur claiming

solar seal
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you only need it active when checking the map - it doesn't need constantly be on - then whe you get infinite, you can worry less about it until you get a doubler

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on the other hand, something like OG chance for farming needs to constantly be on because of how the timers work for farming

peak verge
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The sailing speed one? How would that even work? I can understand for arti find chance (to sorta just equip it before checking the map) but isn't the sail distance set at the start of every trip?

strange citrus
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it only calcs when you have the sailing map open, so you jsut have to equp star sign before opening map

solar seal
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its cause of how sailing works. you "accrue" time -> which is dumped into boats when you open the sailng map

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the boats aren't constantly going

peak verge
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Oh I see, so you just snapshot it as with anything else.

solar seal
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if you look at your sailling info in your character screen, you'll see that the 'time' you've amassed

peak verge
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Yeah that's what I'm checking when it shows 2 hours.

grand scarab
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oh shit, i didnt know that lol

solar seal
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yeah so based on what you've accrued, once you open map - it moves boats based on that amount - but with sign active, it'll have your boats updated to whatever speed tehy should be with it on

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i hope that makes sense

peak verge
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Yeah, I gotcha. Ty for the explanation.

scarlet geyser
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Burned a few bottled wind's - 100% worth it.

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While still also working on getting the Fury relic.

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And the very next bottled wind.

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Now to try and Ancient this.

solar seal
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late stage vman card farming is so funny sometimes. 18k cards in <4 hrs. smh

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and now with that, we have finished easy resources 🥳

scarlet geyser
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And one more. I'll save the rest of the bottled wind's for now.

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Those are starting to become some pretty nice bonuses.

peak verge
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Immaculate.

grand scarab
solid cloak
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ES or Bubo for chopping?

peak verge
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boffum

solid cloak
peak verge
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boffum

warm pike
peak verge
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the differences start after the "mage" tab

warm pike
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I like using my Siege Breaker for log prints😈

solar seal
# solid cloak Who better for prints tho

what would print other than logs on either mage? its not an exclusive thing. all mages can sample and print logs - particularly oak which is #1 atom generator

solid cloak
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Though it was like the squire and Bb cuz squire better for mining

zinc jewel
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is 7-11mil danage good

peak verge
warm pike
grand scarab
warm pike
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you’d obviously want more and the class matters

solar seal
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BB still should take 1 copper ore sample cause its best way for BB to generate atoms once you have all fish sorted - since mining is the warrior skill, not a BB or DK specific mastery

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just like how chopping is mage skill, not bubo or ES specific mastery

peak verge
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What were sailing gold bars used in outside of sailing? Just god link upgrades?

warm pike
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I just realized I’ve been printing bullfrog horns on my bubo for a minute and I have 12k prints and I’m at 976m/1b for the vial😭

peak verge
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Those take bits.

solid cloak
solar seal
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opera mask (artifact) provides dmg per pow10 bars

solar drift
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and divinity god need bars to level

solar seal
keen jewel
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How much encouragement do ppl usually give the snail going from 23 -->24?

peak verge
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So div god links and artifact. Anything else?

keen jewel
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Well that was fast lol. Thanks @solar seal

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I guess I'm way over at 300

solar seal
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i wouldn't risk the 24 unless you already have the 90q superbit