#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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Upgrade your sneak
beeg
You shouldn’t need respawn chips. ES portal will be better respawn mechanic. If you don’t have anything else, then thats fine
Yeah but doesnt es portal have like a bit of down time. Thats why i use it in the meantime
If you have nothing better then might work ig
Ah, if your portal skill is low and you don’t have the damage to sustain killing for entire duration - then sure. You will get to a point where there is no more downtime between portals
oh dang, go afk for an hour and we're almost there
too bad 500 cloud doesn't give a new bonus 
Wait increasing the level on the talent also reduce the total cd?
How much lvl do i need to get no downtime
No it makes it last longer
How much lvl do i need tho
im at 320 with maxed mana box on a 2s downtime
gets closer and closer to slow roast
Gluck getting your 75 speedrun first
Gross lol
When slug guarantee
I might be slow but can someone divide 19.7m into 22 trillion?
My calculator doesn’t go high enough😭
Reminder not to gamble
aww yiss
Im sure lava will implement the trading system any time soon

I doubt he ever will
if he does the game will die via botting
Why no do clickers 

is this thing actually useful or is it just slab? i wanna know before i get rid of it
Slab but i would keep it just in case since it is rare enough to warrant 1 slot
Well fuck, now you’re gonna pass me in gaming too 
just need to gamble for chips and get choco
Tru, do it
mkay thank you kaitojd
No fair 
no way you dont have it

huge
NOOOOOOO
For a killroy run with bubo do you just use the same bar as CC? or do you want to add in other spells
same is fine, can replace CC with canisters if you want
or just take cc off so it doesn't autofire
is chems how you got to a million
you need to get to that next island to get that artifact and youll be cruising
What char should i build for beating the boss?
es is easiest imo
dk is also an option
So where's the bulk of sailing speed coming from ?
I'm 1-2m on most boats and my best is at 12m I got eldritch on my sailing artifact and I'm LVL 88 with the divinity harrip on my archer. Don't have the star sign active ATM cause I'm doing plunder on baby trolls for lvls
Hmm I do need some statues and to onyx it. That would get a bit. At LVL 80 will run statues on es for wormhole next week at least still need a ton for the final 2 islands. Not sure if w6 added any
At 1241 on slab.
sailing speed bubble pretty easy to level too if you havent got that one super high
I'm stuck with bits for that one for now
It's only 72 with the others
Nugget is not easy to get 😅 took me ages to go from 4k-9.9k
Guess I'll see how things turn out after I do a sampling this weekend and what can be boosted by proxy.
May have to focus resources on a early island for some extra big P lvls
What do these max at?
170
170
Should I max the "extra" bubble all the way?
you should max all of them all the way
First? speed
I was told not to max cost
aye
oh interesting, i never read that anywhere, makes sense for atom i guess
It lowers the price of leveling bubbles, which is bad when you want to atom bubbles
I feel like maxing extra and speed together makes sense then maxing luck
171 there’s a secret boost level past the “max” of 170
They all go very quick once you start doing active bubo farming with 200+ tenteyecle
Yeah i am right now, made more progress in the last day than my entire acc
getting about 120k sec per cc
Ya, you'll get it done within a day easily
idk if i should push bubbles or just max everythin first
Up to you, probably finish boosts first, it'll be quick
good plan
Move your bubo to the cauldron you wanna max next to make it quicker
Yeah i am, Got 4 in the on I want to max 4 in another. Dunno if I should just chuck the other 2 on sigils or what to do with em
Doesn't matter too much
I'd imagine the dream is retroactive
They're not too rare but it could take you a bit to get them all back unless you have doot
fml i accidentally clicked on mega fish :C
It is retroactive. so just save up the 15 then juice them
according to Ace 😛
wait till you juice up your gaming a bit more
clogs cloggin my storage

Troll boots heaven
yep, finally finished them all 
finally 
Is kph on w4 worms/clammies naturally extremely low?
think their respawn is slow and they dont have alot of spawns
Pain. My BB went from 150-200 kph on any other previous map to like... 25-30
yes. It's due to the low amount of mobs on the maps
how important is this for prints @strong shale
so only 3 skill eff foods in cooking
Skilling eff on cooking op
yeah i unlcoked 2 of em got like 150%
cant really tell how much my prints are going to be
the 3300 X 79?
na need to go to bed got bloodwork in the morning
Geegee
prints are going to be so ass to do tomorrow i can already feel it
lmfao
Luckily i got 4
Felt funny to just get a shitty sample of hermit cans to gstack after a printer go brr, and after 1 proc it was a stack of 1050m
Me when I only got an ancient silver aankh in 30 20% chests, then getting ancient and eldritch gold relic, eldritch lamp in 15 7% chests
Will i be able to beat kattlektuk with 13 mio sheet dmg on dk uncomfortably or not at all?
Probably not at all
Yeah what i thought hate it when bosses heal
How much worse is dk in card farming compared to es, i want to start to farm dr cards at gigafrogs but since they also give obols dk wont be that stupid right?
My dk is way further then my es thats why im asking
not that much depending on what level your orb is
depends on your DR as well
Don't know what the situation is early on but generally I found ES to be more useful around your point since there are lower prerequisites to use it efficiently
I would probably aim to complete kruk asap and then put ES on first W6 map for a while to gain lvls before focusing on card and obol farming
Card (and obol farming) i would do to reach that 35 mio dmg
Saying i should switch to es once im in w6
My guess is that there are easier ways to get the damage like booking talents optimizing your setup with only damage card and star signs, upgrading tools for extra strength, alchemy especially the first two bubbles and so on
hello, i need level on my 7-8th char to unlock 9th char. should i pushing the map to w4 boss (but dont have nobi yet) or just stay on 1st map of w5? i will be playing actively
check ur afk menu for exp
oh so you mean afk on highest exp/h is better than pushing w4 map? ok thank you
it might be the case that the map you need to push is also the best one for exp/h
just check
okay thank you
Is tool power still significant once you start investing in nobisect flat efficiency bonus?
yes
very very significant
Those stats aren't even related
Doesn't tool power create flat efficiency?
skilling power multiplies with flat eff iirc
Ah I see. I somehow thought that tools contributed flat efficiency which was then multiplied by skill %s
Cos after I unlocked nobisect, my skilling gains really went up
same goes for weapon power. that's not flat damage
that's because you probably have very shitty base eff
I made my 8th character I made warrior cuz it’s my main should I get a second divine knight or a second blood berserker
DK
bb is utterly useless
because it's the worst elite class?
I think nobisect is currently my only source of base efficiency
How
you need to get multitool stamp then 
because it just is? Cooking is a boring skill that you can complete with the gemshop purchase anyway, BB has no respawn mechanics, bad stats later on, is not good at construction the same way a DK is. The only thing to do with a second BB in lategame is to farm 10 million ladles but faster
Ny highest div level is 23 
you need to get more div then
Ok so I should never get 2 bb
Two main reasons: First it doesn't have a respawn ability making it bad for active combat and afk combat is the same for everyone. NMLB made cooking a dead skill in the late game meaning that its specialization is useless
nope. Utterly useless to have 2 BBs
having one is great. Having 2 is a waste
Ok thx i will choose squire
The best choice
good lad 
What to keep?
Btw should I es farm 20 gs
print it
Why not es farm
waste of time, print it while you farm something useful on another char instead
Ok
I realisr too late that I should left a chara doing exp gains on div instead of putting all on focus
But I’m using printer for a salt farm
u can easily get 20gs from skilling prints
Ok
wood are the easiest
get better samples
just checked my prints and im getting 48b oaks on 1 es 
What happens when I try get elite class without a subclass
Which gem shop purchase ?
Gem shop kitchens are a massive boost, especially the first 2. You should try to buy them if you haven't already
I'm pre sure I got them all 😅
Insta bought everything when w4 came out
what are the sources of lab jewel connection again?
the gem pack that gives you no meal left behind.
Connection range? w4 merit shop, w3 equinox bonus are two I can think of from the top of my head
what i use
for u use viel and bomb
save nunchucks and the untie ones
u still need them
hey so if i wasted all my unlinked until 1.5 days from now
and one of my ES's is linked to arctis but i side link to goharut do they still get lab exp
? u asking if bear+goat gives u exp outside of lab, answer is no
u need to be "in" lab for goat to work
Yo can you buy the newbie pack still even it has already passed ? •∆•)
I wanna whale soo yeah the newbie pack seems right to start with •-•)
packs will rotate so eventually yes you can get it again if you missed it before
Thank God I was worried I won't be able to thanks my guy •^•)
Don't wanna but the auto loot I'm tempted but I'm full on afk build =~=)
Haven't seen that one
so what should i hve on for card sets for dudes in lab/div does efficiency or skill exp work?
neither lab nor divinity are affected by generalized skill xp. both require specifically stated 'divinity xp' or 'lab xp'
efficiency only works for lab since divinity does not use efficiency as a stat
You should still use skill exp cards though since those will affect alchemy and there are no better cards to use
Alright cool ty
Got my tenth toon on the middle of my W5 push cause I wanted to shore up my character skills before I did samples and now we printing wide variety
At what point do I actually level cooking with my BB? It seems like he’s gonna be sitting in lab div forever
main reason to level cooking to 50 for everyone is simply to have bonuses from rift skill mastery.
best sources of increasing ladle generation is through completing your chows, ladle stamp, and multitool stamp
Once I build atom collider (farming 25 shattered skulls will be PAIN), all bonuses are active at lvl 1? Wiki shows the cost to max, but I can't find the cost per lvl anywhere
nope, have to unlock em first
once you have 1 level in first element, it unlocks ability to purchase next element
you can use !IT to see current level cost, next level cost, and total to max cost
you will have precisely 0 bonuses when you unlock it
the only bonus you will have is the opportunity to unlock real bonuses
I dunno if I should focus on Atom Collider or leave it for now. At least I want the last shrine.
Reminder that you can use pearls on cooking/lab
imagine having pearls without doot 
get the last shrine for imo since it lvs by afk time
first*
Aight, that is what I am focusing.
!merit5
1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.
good luck on rerolls if you plan on doing 6/3
k nvm. its like avg 14k fragments to hit the 6/3
... my friend
xd
cape only drops on nightmare
oh i meant
neck?
i think its still technically better odds efficiency to run on normal
or how long do you think i will sit at him
sry fixed that
for sure also more gems
at only 50B, thats like an hour micromanaged fight
i would wait til you are closer to ~100B, at the least
Easily. Just put your ES on the bird god with his double link. And then swap him with a dk on the cog board. Pearl rain.
ye was also thinking the same
You only need 500 to get everyone from 30 to 50 cooking (50 per character).
Yeah, Kaito and I discussed doing that, but usually when people are talking about low cooking levels idk if they've got enough cons xp% to make it worth it 
i did my cooking w/ 400 pearls + 800 balloons so its actually lower than 500
for lvl 50 cooking ?
It's exactly 500 if everyone is 30 (from black pearls) to get to 50. No variation.
yes for skill mastery 500
you can have fun doing that 
no thx
1k cooking is unreasonable
its not even unreasonable, i don't think its even possible atm
If pearls did ANYTHING past 50, eveb if it was just 2% exp per pearl, that would be great.
guys is this not good 1st time saw double artifact chance and on a yellow captain
i think of it this way:
speed - gets value if you aren't at full 20 boat 100M distance, then no value
loot - always gets value
rare chest - some value if it procs, otherwise no value
arti chance - some value if it procs, otherwise no value - after all artifacts at all tiers found, no value
cloud - dead after last island discovered
so that captain is mid at best
Yes you should, I did nightmare with a 16KM dmg guy. I think you’ll rock it
cuz that captain is my 1st yellow and has max arti roll on 1 slot and 2nd is decent
that's a voidwalker
i think its much better for me on my fastest ship for artifact searching
Oh wow
I did mine on a bubo
kaito should i gamba jewel or pristine*
just cause its a high tier captain, doesn't mean it is automatically better than what you might already have
Should I take a lower tier captain with higher stats versus a higher tier captain with lower stats? Is there a breakeven point between captain tiers?
The rarity/tier of a captain simply determines the maximum roll of the stat(s) it has. Higher tier captains neither level faster nor scale more per level than any other captain. The strength of a captain at any given level is simply the captain's level multiplied by its base stat roll. If you want to compare a shop captain to one you have that is already leveled, simply divide its current stats by its tier or use !IE/!IT to see the base stats.
https://imgur.com/a/zghj9El
ehh it depends on which jewels you still need
alot actually
just recently starting to buy them
tried to buy from shop but never enough spice
jewel has easier accessibility cause shop, just at mercy of rotation (once you get your cooking/breeding higher) - compared to pristine 1/1k crapshoot
my answer would be pristine since you are guaranteed value (even if its a shit charm) cause you might not even be able to reach a jewel (depending on your lab)
can reach anywhere rn
even then, my answer likely doesn't change - but this is cause i have the opinion that since the jewel shop/rotation exists - i can bide my time to get jewels compared to the possibility of never getting a charm drop
just got something good actualyl
true
there are 2 other people at samurais on cog 4 and i don't know either of them
wtf is this
ur fans 
Yayy I unlocked eldritch artifacts!
bruh, what kind of rolls are these...
can someone explain for someone who just reached W5, what I optimally do for divinity?
Put everyone in Divinity until you unlock Arctic. Don't forget to claim Gaming and Sailing.
Is there a format i can look at to see the best setup for Lab/Div so my mages can get 6x 3D printer sizes etc
This is my current lab setup
Whats your characters divinity? like how many do u have on each god
6x print is like 2nd lab node + harriep. for ES, i like to manually link to Harriep, then have them use polytheism to link to Arctis on combat preset and Goat on skilling preset (since they're in lab
)
Wow those are some lab distances.
Do u have to run ES in lab with harriep for the 6x?
oh I have doot sorry
so you're either physically in lab or have arctis
gotcha ty
arctis+hare counts for 6x prints
I just feel im bottle necking my own prints atm as like 7 of my chars are on Art its a bit wasted
you typically won't have anyone besides ES on harriep as you'll most likely want the other god bonuses active
mostly because you have to be in lab to be able to get 6x, in which case you'll either want goat or omni
ES is just special due to double links from polytheism
I see, I currently have my VW on Purrmep for the 2x gain on everyone is that wise or should I give my SB the Purrmep?
ideally, your highest leveled div character should have purrmep
Btw, I've a question. Just recently arrived at w5. I currently have everyone on divinity until I get a lot more divinity (only snake god atm).
When should I start to make my way to w6? This was my w5 pusher.
I normally switch Purrmep around occasionally on my lab folks if anyone is getting too far behind in div
you need around 30m damage on ES to beat kruk
Is the standard to just chill in divinity lab xD? I been pushing with everyone
yes
Definitely gonna for one more week almost got all the w1-5 star signs and construction mastery then next week I can start god ranks
well, you'll want div levels eventually, as well as 2100 lab levels. you also need to push for class levels, too. so kind of up to you on how you do things and with how many people
Best farming upgrades?
You can passively get the lab bonuses while they're not inside the lab right? With one of the gods
My class lvls are low 400 ish and 100-120s for lab and div
Guess my dks, bubos and SB are getting labbed up next guild weekly
Yes, with arctis. I'm just a combination of lazy and not thinking arctis is right for my progress right now so I typically keep my lab folks in there manually on goat (though I had a long stint with Omni)
O for goat do you lab up and just swap your divinity action ?
Check out the info in here https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1208108939313684621 or in #endgame-gen-chat think there's a spreadsheet
If you can't see the 2nd channel, go to #👀read-me and use the
reaction
Or perhaps id:customize and look for endgame
Sometimes you gotta reuse the peanut if you already had it clicked ,😅
Damn sorry I did mean gaming but said farming because you farm ...my bad
All good, you technically are picking plants 
Also I don't have access to whatever that second area is
Check out my follow up messages 
Uhh for gaming, depends on where you're at.
If you're early on, just level up whatever is cheapest
If you've got some imports unlocked, kind of the same, but an early focus on Kitsune and Squirrel can be nice
Fairly certain I'll hit 30M damage by the time I get there, so I'll start the grind immediately after the divinity grind.
I'm a derp haha thanks as for gaming I literally just got to world 5
I am streaming it currently if you wanted to give any pointers my twitch is in my bio
div grind until you hit goat so you can put people back in lab for lab bonuses
almost done untying last bro on that level 😄
should buy this for slab yeah? or keep saving trophies
I'm not sure it even is on slab. The version shown on IT is a different one
It is intended to be the next tier of dungeon hat but that's currently unobtainable
I would just buy gwatches
If you buy it make sure to report if it counted
There are hidden slab items after all and that might very well be one
one question I got for divinity would be, if I have to buy these offerings
then, is it RNG whether I get it
and if so; can I increase odds as a fresh arriver in W5?
Do ships in sailing have a max level that's realistically reachable or is it infinitely scaling?
No way to increase odds besides what's listed.
Left side can be 1/5/10%. Middle can be 25/50/100%
Anytime you select any option, both options will reroll
Most people will roll the left side until they get a 100% in the middle
No reachable max but 300 is common to go for because they become red then
does the vman bonus to beast master breeding speed work if BM is afk or just active?
last i heard active only
lv150? it's only active bm
can confirm that hat does count for slab. i was 1009 before i bought it
ah fuck i forgot
its bean
insert 'time for your weekly bean dear' meme
no bean 
lol
Imma pay lava to make me into a pet. heres my concept
lol
bro isn't that already a pokemon?
lol, looks like a pair of scissors cross bred with a pile of shit, pokemon really running out of ideas xD
its a trashbag lol
had to tear it down to 16bit so lava can put it in game 😛
The pokemon
its like looking in a mirror
guys, for you guys, whats more important, a dk or a es (ofc both are important but i just wanna know which one is your guys favorite from the two)
i mean, theyre used for different things so kinda hard to answer lol
id say dk just because i fucking hate the lag es causes but other than that idk lol
which dupe char class is best first to get? ill do dk-es-sb
dk for cons br, then es for 2nd link for more prints bear+bunny
sb is later when u make lots of bars
tbh ye, dk first
then between es and sb, one of the main reasons you have a 2nd sb is for bars but you need to setup the 2nd sb too
ES is a fine dupe class but usually i get SB first
ES is a fine to get first before SB but i prefer SB first*
🥱
Not pushing on anyone?
well i could, my blood beserker is on the same map as my main
Is it normal for blood beserker to be the best AFKer?
yep
Or even statue farming ? Es, SB or Dk kills
W1 statues were decent during w4 days from my experience
Am i strong enough? i don't seem to get more than 7 statues in an hour
Active
do you have chocy chip. thats the main thing for statues
not yet
good things i didnt open my 2nd ES yet before i know about IE 💀
What damage range did y'all pushing rift 41 at ?
I'm sure we will get 11 and 12 some day
Wonder how long it's gonna take me to do my sampling tomorrow. Gotta respec all my stat pages, do cards and minimal gear swapping xD
takes me 2-3hrs min max 
Yikes I was expecting 5h myself
I hope mine last me a month D: it's the first sample I've done since w5 break
Just put 40 hours of active play doing stamps, meals etc catching up 😅
Glad obols got a preset now tbh
ur weekly sample gonna incrase alot more if u just started lvling those
Did not do TD yet waiting for construction mastery
my sample went from 200m to 2b in just a week doing bubbles
Damn. My bubbles gonna need work. Once I do this sample
Should skyrocket. With rifts, MSA, some new artifacts, 800 meal lvls a few hundred stamps vman
Be nice doing a future sample, cards and stats will be preset at least
what i hv for samples
do the majority prefer idleonefficiency over idleontoolbox?
atom / refinery > bubble / stamp / vial
i like using both IE is cleaner and simpler while IT for more details
ahh okay
I'll have to cross reference this to what I need. My vials are only mid 100s
W4 was when I did all my alchemy. W5 was quite short lived for me
ur bubbles lvs are not bad
You got this in w4?
Ain’t no way
decent captain yeah?
call me bob does need love tho xd
I was top 100 for alchemy during when w4 was live
if u dont need sped ye
i do need speed badly lmao
Yeah I need to print some combs xD
I’m w5 and my bubbles are an average of lvl 25😭
Why is there no builds for Siege on idleon toolbox!? anyone got any good builds?
Pretty horrendous honestly
That's the difference of pushing versus being in the most active world for months
what does this guy do
True
W4 did even have statues at the time D:
That’s a lot of kills
Nothing yet
bro really doesnt like rams
on my sb, 2nd pic is 2nd sb
what cards do i run for card farming other than card chance up?
drop rate
Maybe some I took a break was there cause my statues don't like up
cdr snapshot then full dr cards
For real
snapshot how?
u walk/load into map with cdr then switch to dr card set
do you want to harvest a chem plant first or after you clear board
alright thanks, also is it better to farm active or afk
I harvest chems last personally
active
I just click harvest all 😅
I harvest, sprinkler, shovel, squirrel, log, chem
bubo good enough to farm?
yea active on dk/es/bubo
if u got lv200 tent talent
sadly dont have that :'3 around 160 rn
what u farming tho?
cards?
I havent gotten a new nugget in like 2 months and its small
ohhh he is in jail atm 😦
unless you have equinox, you aren't going to luck into a bigger nugget. most need equinox to get above the 10-50k range
almost have enough batteries halfway there
I pretty much hourly click and I haven’t even broke 10k nugget yet lol
No you need more DPS
How much wormhole kills should I be getting?
That number is irrelevant
i get ~150 usually
While pushing to w6?
in general, idk about in w6 though, not pushing that yet. only 10b damage rn, long way off pushing w6 yet lol
Dang it’s prob because my alchemy is horrible
I can barely kill the first wave of small enemies. Maxing it would just slow me down
I have it to 50
yeah, well thats what i was gonna say, i only have a couple points in it or it lasts too long and they scale too hard
then you just sitting there hitting damage sponges and wasting time
not even the first wave? 
decent upgrade
yeah, I wouldn't even use portal at that point
but yeah, if you arent killing the first wave you need to go way back and progress lol
whats your damage/kills per hour like?
iirc, every 10 mobs the health doubles. every portal mob you kill will also respawn (or speed up respawn?) of regular mobs. so you also need to be able to kill regular mobs quickly
Stiltmole 6k kph and 14 mil dmg
Whenever I used my es to push to 6, I only put about ~35 points into portal and could only score about 40-30 as i progressed
Even down to like 20s at the fire spirits lol
id go back and work on damage for a bit, youre gonna have to pump it up to kill kruk either way
Idk, I had pretty similar damage there, too. Using the xp potions with some 'xp while active cards', there's a lot of class levels and dmg to come from the rest of the maps
Hmm anything I should focus on specifically? I should be done printing the mats for void gear in a couple days, and then I’ll go full alchemy
you need this @grand scarab
i agree 😦
So I can get bubbles that requires mats up pretty quickly
Soul and salt bubbles will take longer
just stamps/alch mostly id say for now, get a chiz helm if you can
trying to get the stupid equinox thing done lol
what plants are those?
Idk what your candy looks like, but opening a new world sounded worth it to me for using a lot of mine 
chems
I dont have those unlocked
Yeah but I usually like to use candy on the last couple maps when it’s more difficult
True, true
if you have keys id say chiz farming wouldnt be a bad idea for you to pump damage. get luck and get a scarf too, youd be cookin
obol too, think those are like 5% damage
time to kill these guys
legit just rng if looter wants to throw the game or not tbh
if u hv alchemic ill change looter to slime but thats me
or just use trasher if u hv
i like the nuke build
right side of the green orb
Ah ok thanks
once you hit drums on looter you basically always have a shield even if last second it gets turned into curse
Hey guys does Species Epoch work for my whole account or is it only when vman collects souls / critters?
Everyone
Aight ty 🙂
Kaito
?
I dunno you said everyone
read the post above mine, it was an answer to the question
Oh lol nvm
hahaha
can you party kill nigthmare kattlekruk on voidwalker or how much dmg is needed?
Another question does changing skull remove your current charge?
Check trickz’s pin re: vman nightmare kruk
could you link it, how do I find that
So long as you don't remove your currently equipped skull - no. So drag a new skull onto your existing one to swap without losing charge
can you search pins?
ahh okay thanks
jesus that looks painful
I recommend 100B+ for most cause doing the fight manually is not fun
so no grouping/party kill right?
u did do w1-4 boss solo right
All world bosses are solo
isnt that 100b? or is that 10b
100b
i did my vman on 400b
Anyone have that table that has all dr sources?
i think bamboo forest is going to be a little problematic lmao
so per the guide, i should just afk all on divinity until i unlock bear as soon as i get to w5?
Shouldn't be a major issue tbh
Actually maybe a bit of an issue
if you wanna push you should afk until nobisect, put your DK or whatever you're gonna push on on nobisect, having everyone pumping out double 3d prints cause theyre connected in the lab via bear, and then you're pushing W6, and eventually unlocking goat and then switching everyone who was on div to lab via goat
is DK better for pushing than ES?
personal preference from what ive seen but in the pins here theres an explanation
thanks
its in the pins
I don't know how to Trapper correctly, I'll probably go with this for now.
Just making sure all the creatures I currently have access to are being targeted, each one with Silkskin traps (Except for my VM who gets Honkers and gets +Exp boxes)
Why not blobfish?
Haven't unlocked yet, haven't done the quest yet.
you could also place 1 honker using vman exp box on all so they level up faster and unlock other traps
I could, yeah.
Currently using the nature traps because I am out of shiny penguins.
And I ran out of shiny mice which is why my Bubo is still on Wooden traps instead 
yeah shinies can be rought at first
ayyy, officially hit 6 months sober today 😄
thats exciting i guess
So.... All on Honker then all on other critters to get that quest done.
I've already done the first one with the Honkers.
I haven't done the second with the shinies.
how i sample
7 royal 40hr 1 nature 20hr
So focus the shines, get it done then.
When I unlocked blobfish I did 5 - 6 traps on blobfish on all chars, then 2-3 traps on the varying other critters for shiny farm.
Vman was all blob, all XP trap.
Yeah, that's why I reorganized all my traps such, so I can start actually getting good amounts of all shinies.
so should i pass my royals around to different people so they get more critters?
i only have 1 royal trap
but then i lose eff from hunter
so hunter can place for the other people?
yup
i see
Shiny farm is 20 minute traps. That would expedite the farm.
20min is best but man is it too much work
Exactly. I could do 20 mins, but 
u see mine i do 20 and 40hrs and forget they exist with rift vacuum :>
5 day wood best fr fr
Well, for now I am satisfied with how the traps are.
Hopefully, with time, I'll get more upgrades.
Every single one of my traps is currently blobfish
Actually, I did make some adjustments.

lol, i check my traps every 3 hours x.x
Gave everyone one 20-hour pure xp Honker trap.
Except my Vman. He gets 3 of these 
Make sure to use siphon on vman when you are placing traps
transfusion*
i wonder how high my prints are gonna jump when i actually resample in a couple weeks lol
24b to 25b 
l0l
how much from sailing artifact btw
weeks?
only eld
i think the printer bonus only lasts for one print
i should be upgrading my warrior's armor with armor that is boosted while on a mage right?
on one dude
yeah, i dont think ill be ready this coming week on my days off. I think ill have a good shot at being ready to actually print the following week though
its an output bonus,not sample size increase
oh gold relic, i just sampled yesterday
prob should reprint and just print again
so if i print 1b, and its 50%, it makes it like im printer 1.5b
oh im not close then 
just waiting on vman to get out to get r1 real quick then i will
do you have gt at 1k
I cannot wait until lvl200 tenteyecle
Its a game changer for sure
I cannot wait til we can get 400 tenteyecle
Half tempted to 💳 for Rift Slug
once i get prints going need to work on vial mastery
Do it 
It wouldn't get me there tho 
Work on ur sailing
200 tent is soo good
What’s your max book level? Surely you wouldn’t be far off with slug
Itll be nice since I've chosen my ES as my main so far, I've greeted for a lot of mage bonuses
So when the time comes bubonic will be booming
btw i keep this for those who will just start doing CC
Es is a great main for w4 and early w5 but u may wanna transition to dk once its like lvl 250+
this is if i only knew early on i would do
Hnnngh...I really want that last recipe item from this...
My dk is doodoo 
Both of them, even
bro 6 days?
Jesus lol
more tries > higher chance
This after burning something like 50 Ladles.
o.o
yeah no you did it wrong
dont do that anymore lol
Put some love into it u wont regret it. End game u "main" like 6 diff chars and use them all for diff things
its better to burn 1 ladle 50 times over 50 ladles 1 time
50 tries at 5% > 1 try at 31%
hey returning player, should i be pushing towards world 6 asap or?
Hrm.
is it even worth using ladles that early? i dont think ive even used 1 yet lol
yes
unlocking meals and leveling quick
you are not getting 100k ladles and time soon and even then 100-200 out of that 100k wont make that big of a dif
not that i have many to use even if i wanted to lol
Its hard for me to wanna give love to my dk since I know my potential for crystal farming rn is pretty low.. I'm sure you're right tho, my ES is considerably higher level than everyone else
i personally use
i might use mine once i get new spices to unlock meals
speaking of that, i guess i should go try to unlock more pets :/
https://art1212.idleonefficiency.com/ peep the cooking
I'm trying to get as much activity on him as I can rn because I'm 1 day away from the big goat lab/div sleep
that shit really starts ramping quick eh? lol
yup
every class has it's own value, ES is 100% by far the best elite class to start with, no matter what anyone tells u you should always start out with ES for a considerable amount of time, there are certain things u rly need to do with ES before u move on to dk, mainly these:
farm a full set of personal/family silver (make sure to roll+1 dr on them before making them silver) pop obols
farm all card drop chance cards to 4*
farm all drop rate cards to 4*
farm all crystal spawn cards to 4*
farm any other cards u wish to
Also if there are any specific mob drops u need for any reason farm them on ur ES
hello, is there any early w5 money farm guide? thankyou
kill more gmush
active play at citringes with dk is what i used to do
i was on w5 for a week 😭
I've done all that
im at the last bit of 'any other card u want by getting lab xp from jelly cubes
oh gmush is enough? which job is better? i was using ES all thist ime
just park all ur chars there, the lab node infinitely scales ur money drop based on ur gmush kills
yeah if ur done farming all that and u unlocked w6 i would suggest looking at what is next, either swapping to DK for gold food farming, swapping to SB for plunderous kills farming, bubo for liquid farming, and if ur done with unlocking all crops/summoning upgrades u can shiny farm on hunter
oohh i didnt get it yet for now
so its not worth to farm until gmush or citringes? okay then
woo just got my 10th 150+ yellow glove now time to min/max them while this stupid hat never drops
green mushrooms is the very first mob in the game
ayy
Whoa whoa whoa, let's slow down with the "unlocking all crops/summoning upgrades" lmao
u can if u want, just know that ur money find is going to be crap no matter what u farm unless u get ur multipliers higher, farming gmush caps is the best way
Alright then...
I still gotta get my books higher than level 150 
yeah i just mentioned don't grind shiny exp til u finish those cuz u get so many multipliers for shiny exp from there
o i c
last one and ill have all the meals on first page purple 😄
Which one? Garlic bread or the canopy?
ohh and one more things. i cant unli knight stone yet on DK, is DK still the best on gmush?
well fuck garlic bread, i dont even count that one lol, ill get that one eventually
u don't wanna active gmush tbh, just set some chars to afk there, active on things that bring ur account more value from being active
oh one more major thing u can do on ur ES, have u unlocked onyx statues yet? u should save 20k of each of the w3 drop statues, they drop from specific mobs and not crystal mobs so ES is the best class to farm them, it takes multiple days to farm each so u can save urself time in future by having 20k+ locked in ur ES's inventory just don't accidently turn them in
Okay. I now have 86 more ladles. Do you think I'll proc the 6.2% chance even once?
...I got it on, like, the 6'th attempt.
Honestly, I'm kind of surprised.
Now all I need is, uh.
7 more levels...
there are always better things to active farm than just kph, ES can farm pop obols, cards, w3 statues, DK can farm statues and gold food from crystals, SB can farm plunderous kills, hunter can farm shiny exp, bubo can CC grind, let ur non active chars farm kph on gmush, i honestly park at least 3 chars there at all times
noted! but currently all my char are on div (still on bear) so maybe ill skip doing it for a while. i will farm statue with DK for now bcs my ES always on pop farm and got low lvl div 😂 thank you!
Sad that shinies aren't worth messing with til this late, since you unlock infinite stsrsigns so early in Rift 
u can lvl those shinies to like 5-6 early on but it's much more value to do it at least when u get 160 crops
when / how often does the gem shop refresh?
How much stats does it take for the kill per kill elite talent to become worth it?
finally got vman
...I may be slightly stupid.
I just burned about 50 Eggs trying to get the next pet after the whale - unsuccessfully on a 1/77 chance.
Aren’t we all
first one 
After I did that, I remembered that, oh right, I actually can buy and unlock the Pastpres upgrade.
Oof
🙂
Odds after buying that upgrade: 1/12.
That would have been nice to have before I wasted all my eggs.
Well, you got it easy now lol, go farm that dna while you wait for eggs
Can prob pump it up to like 20-30% easy
I am considering burning several candies at this point...or I might wait for tomorrow.
whats your kph?
doesnt seem worth it at all
ayyy, another one done 😄
anyone doing hh? i need carry for alt 
I guess I could carry you
whats hh
dungeon happy hour
is hh right now?
Probably if people are talking about, not sure though
lol
its the tremor wurms in 100 secnods one
Yes, stop slacking 

one thing i wanna try to grind before the big sleep is around, idk, maybe 1k golden hampters for them sailing gains while i grind lab/div
but dk is better for that, huh 
bubo good too for cc
got past cracking the kruk 6, but i should be able to easily unlock divine scarf if i had the keys
time to camp wurms for a while 😄

rip im poor and salt locked cuz my refinery is trash

grats
rate my total level for just unlocking skill masteries?
so should i unalign from any starsign that has the little infinity thing, because all of those are 'always on'?
For now, yes. you can also double them by aligning to them alongside the lab chip that double starsigns
It only doubles the three you're linked to
ah, ok
yeah dk is king of gold food farming
All done
Hi guys @zinc torrent is permanently suspended I'm on my alt rn
eh? lol
You probably don't know who I am lol
nope
Oh thank goodness. I was so worried about you, black man.
which one of you guys is this lmao
hi ! does someone has the chart for book level ?
jesus lol
Alright, with that I got every single Cooking food item that I can possibly get with the spices I have access to at present.
did you realise why less ladles better
think were right at the same part lol
Yes, yes I did...
what is the sweet spot for toilet paper postage star talent?
@frank prairie btw, forgot to look earlier lol
Now I just need eggs again.
time to set up for prints ...
I do want to ave my tickets for the W6 arena, but I feel like right now my best option is using them in W4...
unless your dk orb is really high i dont think it was worth
i got like 30 eggs for 8 tickets i think
get some jade plates @grand scarab
I'm going to assume "Dk orb is really high" means level 250+?
200+ yeah so you can get 3 runs of col
i personally just dont see it worth it at my current orb level
maybe throw like 1-2 runs max if you feel desperate for eggs / ladles
just save them
lol 😦 maybe one day. i should be getting new spices soon. only 3 pets away from mono
gonna try to active as much as possible at work tonight because i have mainly office shit to do so hopefully stock up a good amount of dna
just got a hand full of onyx statues and they did not help out as much as i thought they would
drop them on ground for slab
Yeah
and then yeah throw away
Ok perfect
HUH
Should I actually do treasure hunt quests
@pastel kayak you stole my afk gains bring them back
yay overflow l0l
What the FUCK
over under 50m log print
under
ima need to do a speedrun too ...
if you hit 50m i gotta be able to hit 1m ffs lol
Did not
im about to dunk on lowguns print

No way I am so lucky
Looooool
rn im just now getting into the w5 meals, how much dmg should i be doing at this point
10b-20b
f my best is 6.9b
i just got the first w5 spice, i dont have the ifhgitng power to get the ones after that
and im cooking some meals with the w5 spice and have everything that i can make with w4 spices
How the hell do you get so much coins?
61t on a world 5 map???
I’ve been mushroom farming past few weeks
do you have 6 pet slots?
This is most of it I think
Yea and i have everything up to bamboo forest
this team beats the w6 ones
Im not far enough into w6 to fight the last 2 territories
they fr at the end too
what about the w5 territories
i can get the first w5 spice but only if i have 3 mercenaries on it
do you have w4 unlocked yet?
and idleonefficiency shows only 3 meals i can get that i dont have with my current spices
or the poops
i just havent gotten into w4 yet and am working on getting bloques for the atomic nblb setup
i only have the purple mushroom, but u start off with it when u first enter the pet area
bloques are not the best because their ability messes up pet arena / battles
makes it heavily rng
run 4 burrgers with 1 forager and 3 nukes above
nice bug
this basically removes shields and ends up killing you
and becomes rng to win pet battles
the dmg you get is free for arena but for normal battles easier without but takes longer
yeah arena is fine but pet battles it just becomes a coinflip
if you dont get enough drums you die
so for prints do i connect to snake then goat?
whens your weekly reset
monday
could do this for minmax
you wanna fund doot?
only crazies do this
anyone have sampling guide
define guide
the snapshot one
i forgot about chips ...
Once I get them and at a high pet power, I think my Breeding and Cooking are going to supercharge.
As I should be able to get a ton of spices, make good progress in Arena for unlocks etc.
huge boost from farming, it was at ~2m
Are you doing 3/7 split or just full sending snake?
full send snake
ill get doot eventually
5x fish not bad i guess
which one of these fish should be sampled
icefish maybe for crop evo stamp
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WmkzuDiF8yoPQxJ5auBzyAZODJEEB7mCxWCIcF1uhGY/edit?gid=799216603#gid=799216603 highly recommend looking through - will help you prioritize your samples
bug prints still be painful
sampling for legit 2 hours and im halfway done this is so ass '
bug prints will never not be painful
Have 50 green stacks now
@solar seal if im done with lab grind one on a decent amount of char should i follow this?
Ace might advocate for omni usage, but i was in position that i needed to be doing too much outside for catchup after lab 1.0
i was pretty much 9 bear with ES 2nd linked to harriep for 6x prints while i was doing all my grinding
feel my main goal is to better my refinery to get better gear
cooking is basically done just need to unlock the maps in w6 for more spice
only 21 gold twine to go
afk there for 20 hours today for 0 gold twine
twine wont matter when i need 50k salt
what gear do you need? if you are just waiting on nullo for troll .. i don't know. i'm not a big fan of the omni gamble versus knowing i could make guaranteed progress using bear
just like ace is biased against bear, i'm biased against omni so keep that in mind re: my opinion
there's tons to do: greenstacks, getting skill mastery to 750 for w1-3 skills, deathnote to 5M/100M
you definitely dont need omni but i dont think one would hurt
4* card prep, 5* card prep
https://i.imgur.com/GDRorzr.png What should I be using these for
make sure everyone is pushed through all worlds
After however many hours of refinery ive skipped i still dont have the nullo for troll, dont bother using omni just for refinery
if you don't have doot, they should be saved exclusively to get from 30-50 cooking
Understood. Yeah, no doot at the moment. I could push for it, but would hate to go dry the next 150 til guaranteed
maybe 1 week of progression and next weep i can throw some people on omni
@strong shale main and all but for 1 alt was in world 6 last night other alt was world 3
how you level cooking with doot, just let them sit in the kitchen ?
Nah, divinity pearls
balloons to 30
doot and non-dooters get to 50 the same way, non-dooters just need to actively dedicate a short period of time to utilizing flutterbis with rapid skill levels using construction
then where is my DOOT 😭
You mean alchemy
Some of that was english... When I think about it, I'm probably comitting a million inefficiencies, but damn is hard to get it all lined up
finally done with my mid prints
where doot 
hello need some advice, most of my char are doing divinity (6 div, 1 maestro mining, 1 SB active pushing w4). my maestro just pushing w1-w3 skilling for right and left hand later on. im using ball baloon on maestro too. am i doing the right way on maestro?
oh my divinity still on bear so i guess i have to put them all first until goat (?)
!merit5
1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.
i don't find anything wrong with your current course of action
did you make sure to sample while void radius buff was active?
yes
but for fighting afk gains i didnt make too much progress so i guess i kinda makes sense
is it possible to have some skills on auto and some not?
oh nice, thank you
this is what i got going for now 5 lab slaves 5 catchup
Sailing is a W
wait, im still on early w5, why dont you use all on goat instead of bear?
because most my char are level 75+
so i need to push end of w4 and w5 on most char
ah my bad, just notice the different between bear and goat 💀 sorry haha
bear can leave altar, goat dont but gain exp
thanks for the info
btw @frank prairie @grand scarab if u need some more crop evo chance, ill link a bubble in a sec thatll help
Isn’t goat like almost always better than bear since you need the lab lvls anyway and dont need that many people out of lab/divinity?



