#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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because each kill lowers the cooldown, if you have too many skills it just delays the ones that matter
got ya
other classes dont have this, so you can add them to the talent bar even if they arent that good cause everything will be on cooldown anyway
You’d need to have the short range staff, fisti cuffs, spear or no weapon at all to make it more effective.
ok, so jewels are my next emporium unlock, should I throw everyone in the lab until at least 1400 account wide lab level? 2100 will take way too long, that will be more of a long term goal. The last few days I've just been AFKin eclypse skull while CCing non stop to raise alchemy
my account wide level for alchemy is 1332, so shouldn't take too long to get 1400
what's the base checkout refresh time?
2100 lab or bust
i did 6 in lab, bb cooking, sb gmush, es and dk for either mob/crystal farming
sure thing "just a week or so"
oh, I'm aware, I need to do it in bursts
this makes me want to go find his post
stahp
ok
"found it"
i finished the people i had designated for skydoggy portal early.. now i'm sitting on my thumbs waiting for my weekly reset to change gods
naw, you said stop so i did 🙂
:p
how long do i keep my characters in lab while connected to goat god
lab jail 1.0 is often until lab 75 (to get all chip slots) and div 40 (to get tranqi style unlock)
that sounds like a long time for 90% of my roster to be locked :'3
its called jail for a reason

k it is illegal how cute that emote is
thats true
Should i start spending books (just single rolls) now with lvl1 fury artifact? or should i try wait for lvl2/3 artifact.. may take a long time though
sunder meals? 
Alright 1 more annoying questions.. If i place traps on my maestro, then collect traps with the drone on my BM, is the new trap placed using my maestro or BM stats?
its snapshoted on mman so
Yeah but then you collect it on the BM with eagle eye, the new trap still uses maestro stats?
its snapshot on placement not claim
sweet
Yea that’s why you place your highest trap with Vman, 1 per char, then all the rest of your traps with BM for maximum critters/shiney. That way you get lots of exp on every char too! Also, should just do full nature traps on Vman. 1 Nature trap per other char placed by Vman, then the rest however you want. Keep that exp rolling!
Sorry why liquid 1/2? are they more important? i would have thought liquid 3 was huge
Grind Time bubble needs 1 and 2, but if you need liquids for something else that's fine, too
i do this royal 1-7 40hrs, 8 20hrs nature
balancing out exp for all chars
blob and on vman for most exp 
Vman should have all turtle nature traps if you want to be efficient. Species epoch is huge
ijust noticed the "raise dr if its below 5" chip works on my es that has 5.3 dr. Anyone know why?
re placing traps im too lazy
What is your ES original DR?
i did first taught of all turtle on vman but its 8 vs 10 if vman or 1 for each char
im still farming critters 
5.36 before chip
Oh it should be because of the crystal pet
so ur dr didn't increase or decrease with or without chip?
Can anybody send w5 anvil so I'm now what I'm getting into?
No it’s at 6x now
So it went from 5.36 to 6x
I’m Def not complaining but just curious
idk i dont use it maybe its just rounded up to 6 but still 5.99
yeah but it shouldn't work at all
Maybe somehow it does not take account for the Crystal Custard, which is not supposed to?
could cloud save first
Yeah that’s what I was thinking
why lol
First time cranium cooking gave me 12 hours of progress, damn this feels good
I think you are the first idleon player to ask why you need dr
theres no difference if put in personal compared to family right?
correct
Do these have a max level?
i dont rlly think much about dr since im approaching 20x dr
170
Maybe you w6 fellows are content with your 50x dr, but I’m def not
dont lv cost at all
Cost no good?
if u atom yeah its not good to level
no good slows ur atom range of bubbles
ahh i see
Damn the cap and rate upgrades for liquid are quite.. inneficient. Desnt feel like you get much for how much you spend
its fine specially when u hv liquidinvestment at lv11
Yeah gotta get onto clouds
what ur cauldrons at bleach or dragonic?
3rd one
the gemshop upgrade
oh its at 3/4
I dont think draconic is in the shop atm
In fact I've never even seen the shop rotate tbh
It hasn't since w2 clicker
ya thats pretty much when i started playing
Ya been a good while
Feels like he’s on vacation or something, he hasn’t posted in a while either
should i have this on my BB
Thank you for this I have only had up to the 1.3 for the logest time and didnt know the 1.4 was floating out there
@grand scarab how is your gaming so ahead of mine
Should I do this when I just reach w5?
Welcome in 
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whats this used in?
divine scarf
its the last recipe in the kruk quests?
bruh 
i cant do it with my malnurished bb and vman
they have scurvy
and they arent even pirates
good thing we have oranges in game 
nah my vman skipped the entire w5
plus hes been in the mines for the past 2 weeks
he looks like this on his dmg build
This is my vman. Very tragic lol, dunno how to pump him
yeah, the 50 catching isn't helping 
mines wearing this
but am i going to fix him now?
no, im gonna leave him for future me
my bubo needs help
it was second in alch lvls 💀 after vman
skill issue
helps too tho
I can't even touch green
Yeah
Oh maybe that
I am getting 2 Q per full clean
is any one class better for gs this than another?
ok, wont be able to do it now look slike just wanna make sure id ont complete it
It’s impossible for me to get 2 of the quest green stacks
completed an all your characters?
RIP
fair, cant do the mustard one on mains so will have to be on one of the newer guys
dont you have to do mustard to get class though?
been a while so not remmebering
was that or picnic
congrats welcome to w6 now catch up your entire account
I'm just happy I can work on whatever I want at my leisure now 🙂
do i need lab level 75 and divinity level 40 before pushing again?
no
you want to always push with best char
if in w6 then until you do 100b damage dont bother pushing
yeah thats super nice lol, im trying to get more pets 😦
Okay ty
Now I gotta catch alllll the way up to be ready to push W6 when W7 drops 
do you have this
ye
Im in w6 bamboo spirits but lab grind is boring
i just need fuckin nutto so i can move on to w2
i better get done with it now
I would push for some meals
i just cant get it
i got it down to like 1/50 with upgraded eggs
dont have the spices for that one yet :/
you want the highlighted meals
stamps too
this could be way higher for me but i was poor
aye, guess i can level that one
gotta imagine with lab whatever you see there its double
tru
bjorn leveling stamps, wild
lol
it takes some convincing
but he can do it
4 digits
https://i.imgur.com/puMuR47.png
im about to go on a big stamp grind once i finish getting anvil mats for w1 i think
do all the stamps with w1 mats
once lab grind is over right?
nah, prob tomorrow or the day after next lol
lab grind is honestly wrapping up, dk finished tonight, vman next then im basically good because its just second classes mostly except bb
jesus lol, you like triple my lab exp lol
think my highest is like 600 lol
oh hell yeah, you about to be done too, thats sick
im going for 2100
I am actually gonna cream 
might sneak overnight tbh want better kunai
Having this achievement in a new account just feels right
my kunai are pretty sick
oh wow yeah yours way better than mine
nunchucks cooking too
need to push for these
Anyone got free guild space ? •∆•)
imagine cooking speed with the farming buff
these are going to be so nice to get
i should really figure out a team to get at least a few more spices until i can get mono probably
do you make a team for fight first or getting spices
idk, my breeding sucks lol
Try upgrading your breeding skills I guess
The gatherer and a bean is good if you're just starting up
Of course a combat one if you need it
everything costs so much meal and i dont even have that good speed 😦
chows with BB is your first step in increasing cooking speed
are snakes only good for earlygame?
once i went though w1-w5 my cooking started doing really good
If you upgrade meals don't put luck on other cooking stalls
this outperforms snakes
Just your first one
my best rec is get the w3 DNA gun
and do your 100k kills on your BB on every map w1-w5
And yeah the snake is like good for early to mid
then go for 1m on each
do i have to keep my bb in kitchen to get the effects? cuz i have some chows dont really see the difference idk
nope
DNA gun helps with only getting DNA or with anything else too?
vman is also very big once you level up meals
I mean if you want ladles
i have 1% :'3 on vman idk why
good stat stick but higher tier dna gun = better dna
oh wait 2% now
I don't have no vman ;-;)
i just need another 0 on my lvls
Still lack 10 1mil per diff mobs
there is also super chows but im not ready for that
:'3
mob + map
max the skill
respec and get rid of this
Okay gotcha
what does taste test does exactly? i didnt get any help using it
When you unlock new recipe if I recon
when you are trying to get new recipies you can use that instead of having to wait another hour for a new meal
it doesnt work tho idk
Yep like you look at the new recipe and it's ready you click your skill
What's this ?
this is what i mean by dif map i have acorns done but not at the roots
IT ?
basically similar to someone reviewing your account and telling you what to work on
oh its chip day
nothing
you wait till its done then the skill finishes the recipie but you still have fire if you fail
so congrats you used it on nothing'
yup
Do you generally hit a point at like lvl 300-350 on characters where you have too many talent points for page 1/2 or am i doing something wrong
All my chars have tab1/2 lvl 299 base all talents max and over 1k left over points
There are bubbles to up talent points
does all quick auto deposit
ye
bruh so why have i been individually clicking lmao
Christ lol
ima use candies on vman
i wonder if i could reasonably push to leeks to get access to the stamp quest and be able to trade beans in
need to level these skills
trying to do that rn
whats your damage at
~10b or so
probably not ideal
yeah, most likely not, thats why i havent started pushing yet lol, maybe soon
maybe when i get closer to like 50b i might try
so my 30m damage is not enough either?
lol
i havent pushed past bamboo spirits with ~140b so
all that matters is that you can multikill tbh, otherwise it takes annoyingly long
still fine to do without multikill tho
what would be a good kph for afking then?
im gonna be afk for two weeks in september, maybe ill do it then since im gonna be away anyways
u can push without mk but thats a long ass time
i forgot 
if that long I'll leave ppl in wurms farm keys
is it really worth spending 2 weeks of progress on smth that could be done in just a few days tho 
oh really?
maybe, who knows. Havent planned that far ahead as to what i wanna do yet. lots of gains between now and then so dont wanna decide yet
im at 75k/h with my sb
im doing it rn xd
maybe i push to beantrade
yea get og fast
think you guys hating
no mk is sad
20b damage
at that rate your gonna spend almost a month just on the map before leeks
how many kills is that
8m
8m?? lmao fuck that
lol
what about just to get the pet battle spices
thats why i said get multikill 
time to focus alchemy
the next one after woodlin is the leeks portal 
so 12m on i think 5 characters
should start making atoms and atom ranging bubbles

once i redo prints i can easily get
i have like 500% skill eff compared to last time i printed
my bubo looks naked without phoenix wings 
~34hours to get past lanterns not terrible
i dont have any capes at all 
best mk i got
thats some sad multikill
does drop rate % impact card find chance?
is there anyway to remove the minimum 2 hrs from sailing ?
yeah my damage just isnt enoughn
u can lower it with sb and shiny pet
Star signs?
almost have w1-w5 done
There's a +20% dmg star sign with -movement speed
Yea that one
what shiniy pet can make it go under? 2hrs i have unlocked all pets but havent made them shiny yet
its sad thay -ms can lower ur kph
shiny pet the w4 dog
ty
i hv 105mins iirc but thats weeks ago
alchemy is key
oh ur missing huge dmg
sailing isnt that hard once u actually focus spd on boat and captains with good sail procs from ghampters
bottom 3 dont matter but the power trione/two/three are all massive
those are minimal dmg

im still waiting for sov winz lantern 
tri are game changers
so is tri affecting all char

so i would get damage based on all these
the orange cauldron affects warrior and jman, green cauldron effects archer, and purple cauldron one affects mage
doesnt seem that would take me from 20b to 200b though so have to be missing some other things
it does rlly
you just have low stats
meals too
i hv 30-40k stats
my meals are good ish for where im at
u can lv ur first stat bubbles too
30-40k main stat usually or all stats?
main others are 20k+
time to focus skilling and print 1b per hr xd
not that big
i could get more stats since im using kruk rn and can switch to marble anytime
4% all stat is an increase at least tho
Once multi tool acquired I can get decent damage from skill mastery as well
skill mastery gives dmg? 
the lv400? iirc
I’m also trying to superchow rift before it gets too hard
dont its a waste u can just do it later
it's better u can get all rift bonuses
only the w4+ skills do
w4-w6 gives total dmg
which means multitool wont help much
ladles 
Hmm 🤔
summoning comes later since its a multi, can't multi if there's nothing to muli
u can lv those to 30+
waiting for the buff from sneaking so i get more speed
plus i am still unlocking meals spice just takes a little bit
do u book and max bone marrow?
got basically highest i can 175/176
I just need to progress in sailing I guess which is a big pain it seems
ghampter farm we all go through it
and i dont hv choco which made mine worse
if only -3k gems
little does bjorn know ima switch accounts with him to steal the choco chips
I mean, I’m worse on everything else so I think that’s an upgrade for me tbh
Guess I should go to sleep at a semi normal time tonight, falling asleep in my chair lol
is there a print guide
I have 47 green stacks now @grand scarab and I will steal all your materials in game now
Damn, you’re flying, I think I’m up to 38
I need to sample some new mats soon so can green stack them
I just don't greenstack anything 
i am at 32
Bro I swear siege is shit now everyone fucking cheats
its been like that for 7 years
Yes but why is everyone now using mnk on console
console is worse for gaming than pc 🤷♂️
by the time i get enough nullos for all marble gear on my chars godshard will be easier and then ill cope saying i want the bars first before i make all the gear

For tools do i stone for acc or my main stat
by mid m5 you'd want to stone for main stat over acc unless on DK and if you're really lacking you can find acc elsewhere with clickers
basically, up to wherever your acc is lacking
but what if its not lacking until i reach w6
then go for main stat
Main stat if ur strong
once you reach w6 you wont push for a while
you'll backtrack once u reach w6 and acc is easy enough to get later on
Acc stop mattering as ur base stats go up
if its void armor id say acc if really needed but anything higher than chizoar is perma main stat
dont you guys love accidentaly breaking greenstacks by spamming bubbles
Time to steal all materials from @strong shale now
what is the upgrade where you don't lose your hours when you move a shrine to another map?
jade emporium in w6
Jade emporium i believe
just love b2b +1 gems for sneaking mastery just useless
Hm should I farm hampters active or afk?
is it worth to spend 100 points to level shrine architect star talent then? or just leave it at level 1
active es or candy sb, i pref active
its worth to spend
most of your chars will be in either w5 or w4 after goat
and once u get 2100 lab or push your chars in w6 just move them, by then youll have the upgrade
i believe in your oak print
Halfway there with BB.
yeah for vman nobi i believe
im getting 50m
oh nice
could always candy at the end of the day
welp ima get a super chow before you to flex my candy storage
Good for you.
first super chow aquired

Be honest, you already had that :p
na used a few (5) 12h candies
smh yall actually doing chows
what your KPH?
jesus that is not worth it LOL
prob not
its a nice boost and autoreview made me do it
i have 7M /KPH tho
i took forever to do them l0l
I'm doing the Schow because I want to, because cooking and for the extra money.
true the money is smart bonus as well
bro ... thats insane lmao
extra 100m kills is good for the gmush
i was at 2m an hour and was avoiding
built different
do you have regular chows done w1-w5?

In seriousness.
All W2 mobs have been Chowed, only Brown Mushrooms haven't been Chowed from W1.
From W3, got 5/14 Chows.
chow w1-w5 before a super chow
like 20k less seconds than wurms, also ass shot https://i.imgur.com/4aQojCq.png
Then no Chows W4 and only Moles Chowed W5.
So yeah, I got my work cut out for me.
Noh. Doing Gmush Schow first.
hey dw i procrastinated even my zows until i could schow every map rofl
how was the rift
rift super chow
...what the hell do you mean Red Mushrooms haven't been Chowed yet? 
lmfao
is this the only use for these
that bubble + the chip yes
not zowed equinox SMH
Soon™️...

How much dmg do i need to finish rift 11?
its just collecting rift tears, i never had an issue on es/dk
no i mean till 11 :'3
i want the infinity star sign but idk when i should start grinding rift
go see what the task is, do it if you have multikill or can do it easy
all the rift bonuses are sick
just looks like its orb score/wormhole to 60 on es
and a few annoyances until then
sold a bunch of my crops and went from 1x evo, 4x speed, 1.1 og to this https://i.imgur.com/opOMPmC.png
now we farm
Is the 42% Divinity Exp on the Divvy Slippers multiplicative? Or diffrently ask is it worth it?
craftable lab shoes are decent
is +700 efficeny that good?
anything to speed up lab tbh
total? nah. Base? yes
okey then im gonna keep my Lap scrubs and not go for the Divvy Slippers
with the div shoes, without
I'd imagine this'll become a great upgrade for Cooking, even with only 20 crops so far.
yea that is useless jesus LOL
im gonna wait a few months so it dosent dent my progress xD
Okay, gonna wait for the updated Weekly Boss guide to show up...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z1P2ouvYhe2pryWoF0kIQE7QichYpJt1GaPPos-e-aw/edit?gid=0#gid=0
Right...as I followed the previous guide and didn't end well.
which infinite star signs to go for?
more pocketwatches 🎉
they automatically go infinite, you dont choose
Still working on getting to Shiny Pets 
Ah, I see it now in my star sign page.
So if I set one as active, does it give double the bonus?
ITS BEEN FUCKING MONTHS
L
what do you mean wait for the updated guide? i update it right on reset every week, sometimes just a couple of mins late at most
how tf do i get this guy out of the like rope
#endgame-chat-w7🐟 pins
Ignore my NL video, lets fucking go finished sailing
I was looking at the one in tips&tricks.
yea... and it looks pretty updated to me, unless you are living a week into the future
if you follow the guide and fail to get 5 skull even after following the guide, it's not the guides fault your accounts stats are just too low
don't blame the guide, just up your accts skills etc.
how much stats do i go for btw? is there a minimum lvl or something
each page when fighting a weekly boss has a stat (maybe kills on a mob, maybe skill level for a skill, etc.) that ups how much dmg you do etc., if ur stats are too low for that specific page u may not be able to kill bosses
just try to get all ur skills 100+ for starters
there is a lot of variables for it. cant give you a proper answer to hit the minimum needed.
50+ should be fine mostly
great thanks
there is also variable, for instance the nuget cake boss u could get a crapton of kills on crab cakes or u can get 70 cooking on ur 7th char, both works
just get as high as you can, use my 5 skull rotation and if its not enough then up the skills needed for it
the 5 skull rotation guide is the best way to get 5 skulls, if u follow the guide perfectly and still fail at it ur accounts too weak to 5 skull that boss, find out what skills etc. that weekly boss needs and work on those
which boss is the easiest?
to 5 skull
Axel I need help increasing my es damage 
look at this, so my ability on this next attack depends on my 3rd chars cooking level
throw money at it
while each boss does have different amounts of health, doesnt mean the ones with more health are harder to kill. it depends on the rotation used
ohhhhh these are character specific i thought would be acc widde
no i meant the one that can be killed with lowest lvl of skills
unless thats not how that works
thats what im saying, it depends on the rotation, some weeks lvl15 in a skill is enough to win, other weeks you need 120+
its all based on the rotation available
nope it goes thru chars 1 at a time, and also lists the skill or variable needed to up ur dmg on that char
early/mid game all ur dmg comes from skills, like the w5 alch bubbles, meals, summoning etc., late game once all those skills are more or less max it's all about base stat bubbles
so its not boss related i see
Alright
it's both, all the bosses have pre-decided stats needed, but each char has it's own requirements too
lets say one of the boss needs cooking level 50, as the weeks changes and it comes back again, do i still need lvl 50 cooking or the lvl can change but the skill stays the same?
skill stays same, everything is pre determined based on the boss
but once the boss changes the requirements change
you cant base it off just needing lvl50 cooking, because the rotations change, you wont always be able to get the same setup to boost your damage in the run, so you may need more cooking to compensate or you get a lot more buffs next time allowing for a lower cooking to work. but end of the day relying on a set skill level for every week wont always work
the 50 cooking there isn't a requirement, it's just what my cooking level happened to be on that char
my account is really really strong so even if i have a low skill like lvl 50 cooking the rest of my variables carry
aside from cooking (which is 50 on most of my chars) and breeding (which is 87 on all my chars) all my skills are way over 100 on all my chars
Is there a list of all MSA upgrades somewhere? cant find it on the wiki
Guys how tf do i progress in gaming. have like 2 green bits and its very slow to go up. Nuggets are pure RNG and i havent got an upgrade in weeks
here they are
hmm those last 3 are from jade emporium?
yep
which is more important?
and for farming, do i want all my crops to evolve or do i want to lock some from evolving(only on first 2)
with some night market evo farm 200 each crop while lvling some day market
https://i.imgur.com/0CdQkd7.jpeg Kattlecruk down
enjoy not making it past the first map in w6 
I've heard it's overtuned?
it's not overtuned
people who bumrush w6 are just very surprised
Ah! Thank you
do i absolutely need 30m dmg on dk to beat kruk?
if u can 1-2 hit moles u can do try
aint no way im 1-2 hitting a 900m health mob
then you absolutely need 30m damage on dk to beat kruk. Glad you could help yourself come to this incredible conclusion
then u cant rlly kill kruk
im not even sure if i can do it with 30m dmg. im at 18m rn
what talent level is your shockwave ability
around 140
i mean i probably need to work on stamps more than alchemy
but i can level up the dmg bubbles
skill issue then
??
u can but hvnt
i meannn
sure blame is on me
im just working on death note bc i have nothing to do on my dk and es rn
the thing is. . . my stamp lvl is 1600
im already at the final map of w5
your total stamp level?
w5 should be 3k
ye
yeah definitely needs work then
i think i need like 1m kills on moles no?
should i do that instead?
ill push since u cant kill kruk
what do wurms do for me anyway
oh sounds good ill push wurms then
im not pushing on bubo
yeah each shockwave does about 30m dmg and 67m when crit
but thats without my squire 6th talent boost tho
!merit5
1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.

i did loot storage first
3k stamps is a lot for current w5 pushers imo
Should probably finish w5 around the ~2k range
The newest world is tuned appropriately. When w7 comes out, w6 will be “down tuned” in a handful of ways - the two biggest ones being portal count reduction and allowing candy.
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO my ass just hit a 1%
i just got goat yesterday and i did my first reroll
jack pot 7 - 7 -7 🤑 💸 💰
gambling by accident always works out
Elephant will give you gains when you learn the beauty of it (after some goat grinding)
man my stamps is 1.06k
in w5
this means i have successfully done it right?
yea if you see the gravestone you win
great thanks 😄
the misc ones?
yea
will do 😄
how to get crystallin talent
Drops from crystal monsters
Well I was pretty on top of my stamps and spending every coin on them lol. So don’t feel too bad about it. I think I was like 1800-2000 when I first looked in w6
best to run chakra and grind div xp or go straight for focus?
At the start, it is best to focus on divinity point gain until you get at least goat (or up to purrmep) unlocked. So generally I recommend using focus on all until you reach that point
makes sense. thanks!
how far away am I from a new nugget with 1972 tries? 😄
would depend on your current nugget
3.4M
I tended to find a new nugget was "soon" once my min roll was 1% of my current roll - which you're within
so you're in
territory, it's just gotta hit
My rule of thumb is that 1 in 1000 nuggets are above 5% of the max. That makes 5% a reasonable ball park figure for people with thousands of rolls but if you only havr 2000 rolls a bit over 1% seems reasonable
Got it, thank you. I watched one youtube video where the person gave that opinion and I just took it for fact
if a random youtuber says w6 is overtuned, that just means he wasn't as ready for w6 as he thought
Time to fight kruk
feeling very salt locked in very early w6 (just got there a couple days ago and just got my vman)
im supposed to rank my green salts up as much as possible, but already at these ranks i seem to not be able to keep up with the blue salt production for my green.
I feel like i need so much green that rank up is a necessity, at the same time i don't want my other salts rank out of wack to support that.
Im considering ranking up my blue early to support green, but i can already now see that orange and red will run out quickly as well.
Do i keep ranking green or should i slow down and focus other things?
keep ranking green - the cycle speed for the second set is slower and you'll regret holding green back eventually
kk ill keep chugging on, should i forget about infinite salt produciton and just rank up all salts? been following the salt chart so far
for example, I've never ever turned green off
and i assume youre overproducing blue with ease?
yeah, if anything my orange is a problem
I've paused my orange for now to stack red for the vial
okay ill just keep ranking green and following chart, god knows i need to go do my stamps anyway lol
10mins later kruk still isn't dead at 35% hp
as long as it's not healing you're fine 🙂
I burnt a truckload of candy to rush to kruk so my other charas are hilariously underlevelled
Should I try to get my levels up after this? Or doesn't really matter since lab slave anyway
don't sweat that too much, you'll be changing your game progression once you get to w6
Level as a whole is a very minor thing. It helps at first, but all it gives is talent points
Yayy
was excited to see first. but then
, but i'll take it
Harsh. But you're probably right
it's not so much w6 is overtuned- the other worlds are undertuned. He nerfs previous worlds when new ones come out so people can rush the new world
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if they arent in w6, how are they supposed to spend gems in w6 gemshop??? 
hi ! i have a ES with 32 M damage and probably enough candies to push to W6, should i do it ? i know the ping says 35 M damage but someone told me i had enough damage (and honestly i should reach 35 M before reaching the boss)
depends on your talent levels and crit chance as well I guess
Yes 100%. youll shoot to 100m within a day of having w6 open
i did it with about 33m dps on es, aint too difficult
okay thanks !
Is there anything that increases the shop stock per day besides the stamp?
if you use library to get your tab 4 attack talents as high as they can with a spattering of other damage talents - you should be good to kill kruk fairly easily
there's a bribe
hows this done?
stand behind w5 shop guy
YOOO
Instructions unclear, needs more arrows.
The tutorial used 3, do we need more sir
This what you were thinking of? 
If game does 3, you need at least 5
:
behind
well if you get a new one tomorrow, let me in on how you managed that
Ive gotten a new one every morning for hte last like 3 days lol
the first half of sovreign are much easier than the second half. Enjoy the suffering once you get there
i figured that was the case
there's a massive drop-off on rates once you hit the ice island
Well i rushed through W5 with my es, spend all my candies went from lvl 150 to lvl 313, from 32M to 44M
and just before the last map run out of candies
need 3 more hours before i can reach W6…
yes i did both yesterday 🥲

Oh then you have todays giant island at least? That's at least 2 hours of candy probably
and of course last week i spend an REDACTED amount of candies on something meaningless and useless
I must admit i don’t know how giant island works, i only go once a week 😅
i would suggest just going down the list of quests on wiki and seeing if there any easy pickings available to you
3 hours should not be too hard to find
Giant island spawns 3? giant crystal mobs per day which should drop at the very least 1h of candy each
3 for the first day then I think 2 each subsequent day until you kill them
doing it daily is more candy but that's a lot of effort
I do with vman so it's not like he does alot of aoe damage anyway, I should start doing mine daily instead of weekly tbh
lucky, all i got was -_-
just a tad expensive
What's the theory begind boss killing? I have 15 kattlecruc keys
Do you go for the base boss? Or always go highest possible tier
theory?
I mean whats ur damage at
I don't think you can handle anything other than the normal kruk boss mate
yeah
2.5t hp on ckruk
whats the dmg for ckruk you need around 1b no?
Base went super well with that damage
But lets say I wait til later, I just don't know when I should be choosing which difficulty
yeah well according to pins you need abt 30m
So it's always whatever the hardest difficulty you can challenge is?
base is only 100b hp
might wanna save keys for wings and neck bcs of challenge
How much damage do I need for Chaotic/Nightmare Kattlekruk?
Chaotic has 25x the health of normal with increased Biggole Mole spawn rate but still at same HP (900M). Simply multiply the recommendation for normal by 25x maximum sheet damage.
Nightmare has 10,000x the health of normal (400x chaotic) with even more increased Biggole Mole spawn rate but still at same HP (900M). Simply change the recommendation for normal from 'M' to 'B' maximum sheet damage. Note because of increased spawn rate, the weaker AoE classes (particularly BB) while doable at the 80B range cannot be done on auto and requires a lot of micromanagement of mole wave spawns.
amount of drops per key drops significantly at higher levels. If you want to get wings you have to do nightmare version
its all about key efficiency, hours spent farming, keys available
there is no "This is the best way to farm bosses no matter any circumstances"
that doesn't exist
^ you do difficulty depending on why you are farming
For me I'll probably only do nightmare kruks forever
That should be about the right amount of keys for nightmare 5 star
If it’s a 10kx jump to NM why does dmg rec only go up 1k? Is that because the assumption is you 1 shot moles with everything now and it’s more about dwindling Kruk down and managing moles spawn?
farming a couple of bosses for gems and cardifying it to ruby will use less keys and less time lmao. And I'm done with bosses anyway
Yeah, but there are higher priority cards to cardify hence why I haven't and might do that one naturally
i shall steal this and add to pasta
Actually most of the higher priority ones are already 5 stars for me
bruhh
i unlockedmy vman today, that reuired 12m green mush kills, why did they dissapear?
did a initial speedrun for talents not sure what happened
What happened to my 12M gmush kills on my VMan? Why do I have more/less maps unlocked on my VMan?
This is a byproduct of having used the 'Speedrun' mechanic. VMan will immediately get all portals unlocked up to the furthest non-VMan map you currently have unlocked (this is also a way to get +1 count to every spirit lock in W6). Every associated mob's deathnote count for the VMan will be set to the bigger number between either 2M or whatever is required of the portal (currently only the 2nd half of W6). This means you will lose 10M from your gmush death note total while having every other W1-W5 mob set immediately to 2M.
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General strategy: harvest all -> make an attempt. Have sprinkler charge? Use sprinkler -> harvest all -> make an attempt. Have a log game game? Use log game -> harvest all -> make an attempt -> use sprinkler -> harvest all -> make an attempt.
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i’m confused, i read the pin and i’m far above the necessary damage on my ES, what should be my strat ? out damage the healing or kill the mole as they come ? Edit : to kill the normal version of W5 boss
if your attack talents (particularly tab 4) are booked and leveled, lightning will be the bulk of the damage to kill boss while the rest of the aoe should allow you to clear enough of the moles that you will outdamage any healing, if you do absolutely nothing but leave on auto
you may need to micro some at that level. i can't say for sure
i will try, it’s only a key, i have 7 more
make sure to use lightning on CD on boss, and use the rest as you need to
if you have damage, you can probably just get away with using skills manually and get boss down
meteor and chainbolt should help clear the moles
chainbolt my beloved
it works on auto, it's just very slow, the boss should be dead in 20~ minutes
chainbolt is great when it can bounce 40 times per cast
indeed, though im only at like 13 and still love it
imo its better than meteor
agreed, meteor can be a bit iffy sometimes, especially on multiple platform maps
When do the gods unlink reset? Is it based on weekly or when I last used it ?
weekly
which skills does mman left hand/right hand not work on? alchemy, w4 skills....?
I’m early w5 and I’m wondering how I should resample. The snake god will give me more gains than the stamp doubler lab node I would get from bear god right?
Good to know. Well hopefully I can do a sampling with just 2 links. Used one trying to check xD
true, but are you sure in changing gods, you could only change gods limitedly every week
plus if you really want resampling, use royal sampler
I get a 100% roll later today so it’s gonna reset anyway if my understanding is right
that -60% is a subtractive bonus, not multiplicative
Yeah I’ve been using royal
just farm souls to upgrade it
what's your prints like
Yes when you unlock new god you get your 2 unlinks back
make sure everybody on bear then when you get goat, every link to goat then go to lab
This is why for early div it’s recommended to bounce around the gods that you unlock rather quickly
Yeah I’m just waiting to get the auto arm upgrade so that I can worship without unlocking the roots
do not NEGLCECT worship
Is this assumption correct? I’m not really sure how much stamps actually help me
upgrade your towers and start farming more waves, get more charge rate from alchemy and also get better skulls for everyone
and then in w5 those waves start making a difference with MSA
Yeah I always have my towers in build slots, and I always make sure my charge doesn’t get to max
hows alchemy
razadon.idleonefficiency.com I dont think it’s bad
i cant check lol
The links not working anyway
whats the total alchemy lvl
Give me a sec
here are some good priorities
-DO NOT NEGLECT KAZAM CAULDRON
-invest money in alchemy
-get alchemy gem upgrades for orange cauldron or you could buy for all
-FMJ, SHAQ good start
-Mr Massacre and Diamond Chef nice upgrades
-Skilling alchemy bubbles are a must
-Get all multiplication bonuses up (the ones that cost green spores)
Stamps put in work. Crystal spawn stamp alone is insane
Sailing and Gaming are skills are a good priority
TRUE, NEVER NEGLECT STAMPS
alchemy is very lacking for w5
Your stuck in w5 for a few months with that alchemy
no wonder your prints are bad
yeah i just dont know if the doubled bonuses from stamps outweight 30% afk gain rate
i just got to w5 some days ago
what does this mean?
for divinity resampling
even for w4 standards, this is still lacking
I would just print one of each type of ore, wood, fish. Hard push A BM I to meals and ladle production. Then do mushrooms, + refinery stuff than carrots, flags and check your vials
shouldnt that be a BB
W4 was easy 100-150 range from what I remember
really? what should my alch look like?
Yeah it should name elude me xD
like everything should be in the 60s-100s for w5
not necessarily everything actually, just the good ones
50-75% of this
alriught thanks
larry is one of those things i level first
get your multioranges and stuff
also do you guys ever cloud save after a session of active play, and it tells you have been afk for 2 hoursa
What's the tiers for MSA ? Only came back and haven't done anything besides a wave 80 for equinox
i forgot sorry
tiers?
How many waves per increase of a %
im gonna sleep now, its 12:30 Am for me
hopefully my advice helped as a fellow player who recently got to w5 a month ago
I think I just barely got stats to do 130 on the first one
every 10 waves
they are all like this
Ahh never seen that xD had it already bought it gaming it seems
Do need that bits one
I think I'm only a month 2 tops deep into w5 when it came out then took a break
Gambling on BM active farming overnight at crawlers pushing to last map still. That it will give me a decent amount of shiny lvls
Yeah, that’s desync
you and me both 
yeah your prints are a meme but mine are def not the best

i can pull my dk out whenver, just leaving him in lab for a bit to keep juicing a bit of exp since im focusing on es atm
Is this worth early on?
think im gonna pull him out when vman is done so i can swap em both at the same time
ye, i think so, i like it
i think meta is spam alot all at once and you need full mana for that
that with spike
Yeah but if you spam, you run out of mana so that buff is null. Am I reading it wrong?
ye, but you let it cap a couple times before you start spamming
and you get a bunch of free extra mana regen
it stacks
With what?
itself
I don't get it.
every time your mana caps out, your max mana/regen go up
if you have 10 mana takes to 15 then 22.5 then 30 something
and regen goes 15-30-45 ...
is the general consensus still to have all your characters sit on divinity the moment you unlock w5?
Oh it goes more than once. I thought it would only increase the caps once.
Its required to be able to do part of sussy gene’s quest
You just made up that name. That's not a real name.
you want to unlock some of the gods before pushing makes it 2-3x faster
one day well get up to sussy map lol
also i got lied to spices are locked behind different maps in w6 not just the super late ones
Each new territory is locked behind a spirit lock
but first spirit lock is not too bad like 400k
like 10 hours on BB and few hours active with bubo
but as far as can i harvest that spice maybe a few day grind lmao
the rift one only one ive seen i like so far lol
you see the meal levels? @terse verge
Rift was sick but galaxy is my preference
Purple always solid
😮 i dont think ive seen that one yet
It was 2 rotations back I think
i hate that choco weekly boss most my characters havent even killed a choco lmao
oh that is pretty sick
I thought so
i liked the wood one
ayy, almost done with that GS finally 😄
how many gmush kills do you have now
lol 😦
I’ve had that happen when I switch between different platforms, but never on the the same one
What causes it?
What happened to corndog? Not a fan of mystery meat in breading?
i just used 1 ladle and thats where it got
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