#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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oh, actually the 11 is better, not that it matters too much
whats an 'okay' detection% to go to the next floor with
i'll even turn off autotrash 
mines at like 30 and im not feelin it yet
i'm lazy, if i get more jade/xp on next floor even with bad detection - i'll move up
30 is fine to go with
i don't understand how any of the sushi seeds work... lava this is not how it works in real life
that's good knowledge 
i've noticed land ranks covers a lot of missing ground for next plant evo
sushi doesnt grow from seeds?
i unlocked nyanborgir or w/e last night and threw 50ish levels at it
i'd been stuck on the one before soy sauce with like 5% evo chance
got the next few at 100% 
!merit5
1๏ธโฃ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2๏ธโฃ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3๏ธโฃ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4๏ธโฃ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5๏ธโฃ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
โ๏ธ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
โ๏ธ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.
have you not been 200 stacking?
my speed is too slow for that
i've been working on product doubler
remember i was at like single digits or 17% or something before my last bean reset
imagine.
we all have such different approaches to farming its hilarious
how many plots do you have?
im about to unlock like 3 plots and just keep them pushing to get to the next crop i need for another land plot
i farmed out all gem plos and on the same one you have for day market
i learned today that you can use your instagrow clicks on plants that are already grown 
sadly yes
so i have 2 full rows and some change
yeah, that's why i was shocked to hear you got 80 w/ so few plots
man, can my fucking squirrel stop hovering on top of my t7 chem?
i still got so much shit to farm out in terms of gems though... its .-.
i moved my t7 into a safer spot near my chimera imports
i swear it always picks one spot to just live on and it's always the most inconvenient
i would believe it if someone told me squirrel has a heat map of where you click at lot to concentrate on just to fck with you
lol
only 30% of the way to instant gaming apparently
Why wouldnt you want to always click on the squirrel? Heโll still give the same acorns over the same amount of time right?
Or do i not understand how he works
ace and i are at a point in gaming where everything grows back in 5 seconds ("5 sec gaming") - so this can generate a lot of chem plants -> lot of chem plants -> lot of acorn collection
I don't want to click him when he's on top of my t7 plant because i'm trying to save it to force an upgrade
I still click him, but half the time the little ass is literally inside the plant
Alright guess thatโll be future meโs problem
And something iโll ignore for now
but squirrel is an annoying mf-er. will move to sit on top of shit yuo don't want it on
wish you could pen him in with the other imports 
kek. import jail
There's no way it's a coincidence
At least, so far for me, squirrel seems to have a rather dominating hit box. Iโve never had a misclick when heโs dancing on anything else (log sprinkler chem etc)
Bruuuhhhh wrong face artifact!
now your prints gonna be yuge 
as long as i wait 80 days between them lol
ik was so stoked for like half a second thought i got fury on the same day i got eldrich fury lol
grinding out those skill masteries is huge
for me my main focuses are: hourly clicks, leveling up my refinery salts, maxing the best stamps
and plunderous kills -.-
how many you at? 
nice
i'm around 125k atm which is good enough for now
how much dr multi does that give?
lol
nooo i was too eager with my clicks and lost one of my gstacks 
i was 19/20 now im 18 this is so sad 1 million likes
have you tried getting 21 GS so you have a buffer in case you lose one? 
im going thru this tragedy and ur mkaing jokes 

lol
i was going to get 20 gs, then spend most of them on my sample bubbles and resample today
but now i just lost one early, and also i have 9 water
where did the water go 
oh hellz naw
i aint touching gem shop with a 9 foot pole
you gonna have to recruit someone else
keychain in 2nd tier 
they starting to stack up now ๐ฎ
i wonder if all the gemshop images are in the one google drive
if you want to come up with it, but need help w/ graphics. i can do that. but i'm recusing myself from offering anything concrete
Just use griffy tier list video and snip the image lol
my only 2c - a proper tier list needs to be separated by worlds, but not limited to just that world's items - if that makes sense
i agree
I think the big issue with tier lists is that people start at the top and work down. Sometimes you dont need whats at the top, you need somethin a lil further down based on what you got goin on
for instance, forge upgrade slots - technically a w1/2 item -- but the full extent of value doesn't shine until w6
in w1/2 - its f tier, in w6, its S tier
Thats true. I think gem shop stuff is better as a video so that can be explained
maybe an early - mid - late and have 3 breakdowns or something?
the downside of these 1 image only type graphics - it doesn't explain evolution of worlds and needs
this is the one i was using
something that a world-by-world graphic provides - is you can see if next world requires a whole lot more and so its better to save. i.e. w5 vs. w6 gem shop items
it'll make the image a lot more complicated, but comprehensive at the same time.
It can be tricky not making it too complex people will get lost in it
but this is jsut my 2c. like i said, i'm not touching the actual content... cause that's a whole hot bed of a mess
i'd probably just go in order of importance for S and A tier, can always pull info from Scoli
like I put printer over golden anvil and have saved for that on alt, I don't think spending 300 on anvil that early is that useful...but maybe i'm wrong and i'll run into level issues
Yeah the Scoli list is by far the best gemshop tier list
nice, got one nearly right away
These are basically worth hiring them no matter what mods they have right? (for the passive?)
that one is a def buy. it has loot value at least
and actually that's some nice passives too lol
Looking at it I disagree with a ton of items
Probably mostly due to it being outdated but also partially other things as well
oh im sure its outdated. its just the one i had when i came up lol. yanno "back in my day"
the gemshop command one though is criminally worse, iirc
!gemshop
Keychains?
that's what i said!
Yeah that's a bad one
finally about to get 20 books is it time to max out something or just gamble
it says on the image that it was released like a year and a half ago
t3 keychains right up there with kitchen upgrades and (checks notes) w1 and 2 card packs?
Also from W4
Still better than the command one though lol
for sure, the command one is simply a scam
i think out of the ones that float in main-cord, the one in !guide is likely the best one
Chat some1 get lava to Nerf amarok again heโs too hard
but it still has some faults
gamba keychains and w1/w2/w3 card packs in 2nd tier is just a joke
this is that one, yeah?
yea
it's only a few months younger than this one
honestly if everyone would jusjt whale out and buy everything we wouldnt need tier lists ๐
Anyone wanna adapt the Scoli list to an image? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16I-rURrVeyvltK2wxcQSiPgO07QY015RVNG4MAgUsGw/edit?gid=366037426#gid=366037426
I probably could. but season 5 drops tomorrow and im painting my house. so time is a lil short lol
i'm not what one would call a graphic designer
i don't mind doing that - i can just blame scoli if anyone disagrees with the content 
lol
I'm fully capable of admitting I'm wrong / outdated 
You could just adapt SS-S-A tiers and then refer them to autoreview
kek
Nah they are great at incorporating feedback. That's what makes auto review so great
Scoli shows up anytime you say their name. Like beetlejuice lol
scoli...juice? 
Easy is in quotes for a reason ๐
lol
smh my head
lol
man ace already autoreviewing on "main"
lol less than 1?
yeah, i forgot what i did to boost it
probably got a new rod
or maybe leveled up str buff 
the 1 bloach print is such a rite of passage for idleon players. its classic
it's honestly been a while since i've seen one
i'm sure w3/4 sees a b unch
you know what actually needs to be made? a step-by-step 1-2-3 "how to get started on building cdr/dr"
sorry, not cdr as in cooldown reduction.. cdr as in card drop rate
oh that makes more sense
KEK
literally just did that in w3
this is why i have a mini faq that i copy/pasta at people
so then what's the play. What are we assuming, like 4x DR?
nah, between owl and at least baseline cards they're probably at 2x by the time they get to w4
Are we breaking it down by world progression so we can use it everywhere then?
ultimately, i think it should
damn, that's some sad gains. where's my pop obol 
13 stamps though
imagine afking frogs for 2 days tho :C
imagine afking for 2 days tho
oh look, phoenix wings pack
i assume its altcow_x
look, i'm trying to channel my inner casual new player as much as possible
lol
so 6 month break once you hit w2?
i got my subclasses then took my first 3 day break
then i got to w3 and got overwhelmed with skills and because i can't kill sheep that well
so i took a small break
you should've said the sound sheepies make when they died, traumatized you, so you took a week break for therapy
did they make you pet a sheep in therapy
lmao
i haven't played this game with sound on willingly since ever
feel
anywho. my barb
oops
so anyway, kinda can't start exactly at 1x
due to base luck and maybe a bribe i bought?
me too 
15 more until 
i dunno, cool number

opening them 1 at a time makes me
so im stacking a few for 
lol fair
idk, something is very slightly off
if i drop that shrine to 0 then it says i'm at 1.25x
which also isn't right? 
like 99% of it will be from Grind Time bubble
ive heard that too, but like.. surely mine could be higher rn without dumping water into that bubble when i need to be using it on more important bonuses, right 
what's your character level?
260
and are you in w5 still
more or less, yeah. i opened 6 to start chipping at sneaking and such
yep, you're fine then
if you want to grind some levels for now, just throw on the moonmoon and flies card along with the active exp star sign
If you have tent at 200 you GT forever for free
i still think about this from like, a week ago
ah, found the missing DR
bro got all the luck
kek has unboxer on an alt
that guy had like, 5.4x and was saying things like "i have points in the star talent" and "my grind time is level 22"
and i still don't know where it was coming from 
i still don't know what's wrong on the calc but w/e 
Hey All! Is there a way to increase divinity efficiency?
In terms of it showing on the afk info screen, no. There are ways to increase the amount of xp/points you get though
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=(divinity (gain|for|points))%7C(gives.*divinity)
Search every bonus in Idleon!
i've got IT for my alt now 
for kruk straight dps through,
i know 20m is recommended but is that minimum or max damage
max sheet damage
ok, idk, maybe the shrine has like base 12 DR on it?
k ty
feel like that's close enough
and sheet dmg is the dmg you see when looking at your character info right?
sorry yes. "sheet" is short for "character sheet"
k ty
Okay, I think this is a very realistic and under representation of someone who wants to start getting DR
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTX2M7Zwh1PiBXgcBONpP9v8Lk7litUd_E0SJFiyqqHPW5g2JPHHCKxSKw8cDe1xwJIsMUaHKQIOFn9/pubhtml?gid=1005058354&single=true
thank you
i'll be honest. i was wondering why you were filling that sheet out. it only dawned on me why 
if i take away the 2 levels of guild dr (realistic) and pretend they never unlocked a yellow bubble (maybe?) and didn't touch owl (doubtful if they're on discord), then it's still like 1.21x from Luck value alone
why do i hate this lava mace so much lol
just upgrade to kruk sword. its way better looking
im bout to just because of that
Leave my DR alone!

103 minutes... clocks a tickin
7.89x 
why can't i live longer
The automation arm works wonders try building it
me when im 15
ah shit, don't have w3 merits unlocked
i don't think i've ever seen that number be that high before
me neither
me when im 80 why cant i die now
that's most people when they're 80 tbh
yay i think im done https://i.imgur.com/ww2yTPQ.png
or are you
Any tips for kattlekrunk ? โขโโข)
ah gdi, forgot to save liquid for vials
Dang how much damage need ?
pins
bought one gem and some liquid though
DK, bubo or es do work
ES and DK are typically the easiest, with ES getting damage a bit easier and DK being a bit tankier
My damage is only 8mil tho gotta grind then I guess ;-;)
ooh, gotta go spend my daily CC, i think last time was like 14s?
lol
let me see if i can find it
And also the lava boss one shots me ;-;)
triple digits this time surely
I should really tag my pictures to find them easier
also set up your lab so the shrine world tour bonus is active, get the moai head artifact, put all your shrines in the w5 town for less painful grinding
So much progress 
oh, last time was 44
Does doing cc in colo still work?
I'll catch up to your alt soon trust me 
wonder if sandy pots is best
Tbh I don't do a lot of dungeon stuff the thing stresses me I just arrived on w4 last month and now w5 I feel like I'm asking for more than I can manage ;-;)
thats not dungeon, thats w4 lab + w5 sailing
Things chill out a lot in w4 and 5 cause lab and divinity
yuge progress ## cc alch alt
Triple digits 
ayy, triple digits, told ya ๐
I say that like I haven't put nearly 20 hours of active play in since coming back and haven't done a sample run
i think you are ready for the equinox dream challenge
Yeah but I need the bunny god I so I can chill on lab ;-;)
if i just do it a thousand times it counts, right?
^ goat
I don't even own a single chip and gem
Then your super Chillin
In a month your gonna unlock a ton of em
Ooooo okay imma check the sailing stuff thanks โข0โข)/
Have you been doing giants for weekly gems ? It helps get the gems
I think that explains why people think cranium cooking is bad
i have to do my part to try and balance it
yo did you check my gains though? 
Speaking of giants are the crystal giants affected by chocolate chip ? I assume not
someone remove this fool from w5 chat
be sure to check out the pinned messages too, there's a lot of info for getting started in w5. best do the same with the channels for earlier worlds, sounds like you might be missing some info
they are. but when you trigger choco, it just spawns a regular crystal - not a giant one
Ahh. Hmmm kinda worth
Hopefully so I'm pushing w5 with my es for now so I can get to w6 by December hopefully โขโโข)9
You will reach d6 quicker then that
it definitely is still worth if you have someone lke vman or others who need class levels
W5 was a breeze compared to w4
I'm only at 400s I need the lvls just have so much else to do
got 9 more health, surely my next afk gains will be slightly better 
I still need to figure out rerunning samples
Those skyrocket once you can do crystal mobs actively
you should go for 10x missed opportunity next time
This my stats any suggestions bro's โขโโข)
Not from looking at that.
Oh i know, i'm just messing around on the alt account 
Check out this spreadsheet for sampling stuff if you need some checklist type material
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YkCE1KdcXPoF3hxFUjC0EtEUTkpuBmYcAtGodkuNOJ4/edit?gid=1826222324#gid=1826222324
https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ put your account name/data in here and it'll look through and give suggestions
there's a lot that we can't tell just by looking at your stats
huh, apparently chopping pants are better for defence than iron, TIL
I'm pushing w5 with a w3 armor feels like I'm doing a crime ;-;)
pretty normal
Semi useful xD I don't have most of that stuff within reach. What happened to the old doc ? Or the pictures with a wide range for setup?
First of fibers of absence is usually not good. It only works on base kills and not multi kill. Test removing it and see if things improve. You will definitely get more loot
I just push in skilling gear
There's this one too
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vROpoiWi9XQVNm6gy0hHjvD0RKQFcGFzUmX2f-1rsbv8OPQX583Er0AEZndX6JzxMhz6HG2dSOqa6GT/pubhtml#
Or you can just use the !skillchart commands, best done in #bot-commands
I uhh, don't think he'll be hitting multikill on 130m hp mobs
honestly fibers is probably great for most of w4/5 progress since i'd wager 90% of people won't have damage for mk on 90% of maps
Yeah but more damage improves base kills before multikill. I don't know how it ends up tbh
oh, that is true, i guess i forgot about that part
Alright, I shouldn't try to help here I guess. I feel like W5 is a different world
i think fibers at base level 0, can out pace the damage loss in most cases
i know it did when i pushed pre-mk
it honestly is nowadays 
and i'm still learning how it's changing daily 
I tried it is dropped down to 3700 kills โขโโข)/
Don't leave
we appreciate your insights
trial is now held hostage in w5 until further notice
It's a nice channel
Thanks will test it out. I gotta make a list for vman samples still.
How long does a 10 player sampling take these days ? I know I gotta do 2 god swaps. Put everyone in lab. And move around trinkets, wings, hat+ chips.
Are obols a big enough boost for sample size ? Would prefer not to move em 1 by 1
IE reviews are just not something I can do well here
you can swap full obol sets in 3 clicks
Multi kills is good for pushing down worry bout the fiber prayer I remove it when I do bosses โขโโข)
only 2 swaps? my friend, have you heard about sampling around your weekly reset for 4 resets? 
Mine mite be more your speed xD I was stacked out during w4
i'm also not the right person to ask, my sampling sometimes takes up to 6 days 
I get 3
3 god swaps is pretty standard - then use #4 to go back to your baseline
Mmm I forgot about harrip and that other one
Guess I'm waiting for reset. I still need 3 LVL 220 books for stats on vman to boost everyone before I do sample
I was hard stuck on w3 for 2 years I gave up cuz of salts tbh and just came back ;-;)
welcome back
Why did salts get you stuck? Were you trying to force make gear ?
I didn't know I was ready for the snowballing part ;-;)
Salts was why I just used skilling gear
i took my 2 year break before w3 came out 
Gears and salts I don't know how it works the w3 was pretty new feels like I'm doing a ton just to progress 
Now with tutorials on w4 feels like I just passed by there for a day โข-โข)
W5 is pre quick once you get some damage unlocks viable sailing and Slav
time to use your winds :3
oh, i do have 41
Yep I bet I'll reach wurms with no issues โข^โข)
guess i might as well do it on SB
just rotting in my bags now
I haven't been able to get the Light House in sneaking... I must be doing something seriously wrong, because my sneaking is just not working out
Tho if I did imma just craft new armor and try again
how are your items setup?\
can mix lotus and smokebomb afaik
I just do afk gains and do have speed potions and a muffin only since I have automotive arm lvl2 โขโโข)
Kukukuk
I don't have enough veils to do that setup right now, I do have the buffers with double lotus
time to farm some veils 
I am, but bad RNG
veil + rosary is a must. the two sneaking multis multi on each other
omg, a second glove! miracles do happen
oh rip, didn't unlock orange salts yet. want to take some info for wiki
it's so big
Oh yeah anyone free to say hi for me on the snake dude on w2 ? โขโโข)
i lied. i have none. i apparently used them all when i unlocked sovs or turtles
what server?
Need the candy for pushing โขโโข)
I also need it, want a mutual help?
cog 4 
thanks mate, I'll finally be able to craft 2 of the W2 trophies
now you get to start the real grind 
Still 1 god to go
And I have to complete my Divinity collection anyways
oh right, forgot bagur is after kruk
10th character is just linked to arctis smh
Gonna slap the bagur link on it for literally no reason
not me needing 56M jdiv points for badgur
only at like 34m when i puleld everyone from div
Oh yeah if you wanna do it with some of your char my I still have seven on them undone โขโโข)9
sure! let me just craft these trophies real quick
Yondergreen is really bricking my w3 trophy progress
yup, I hate those AFK quests
Okay imma just wait on the snake dude or go there with my eligible char
rip
Yarp
bro i forgot i should have done the shrine quest on everyone when i did it on ES when i was statue farming
Ooooo the pig with candies for quest rewards
Jade emporium makes you not losing anything anyways
Imma do it me need some good candies
still a pain moving them
you know how long i had them in w4 town? 
though apparently in the time since, shrine footprint got reduced, because they only take up like half the table now
the expensive one
They'll be back to keeping Gobo company before you know it
Auto Review said my next step to world progression is going to the gym in RL again. So ill see you fellas in a few hours.
Can i get lvl 5 plants in gaming without any upgrade
i tried for so long but i only get up to lvl 4
you know, i never even thought to put them up there. mine always sit in breeding yard or on dinner table
Under the Mutation tab, read what this says for you 
Should I be saving my plants to get more evolution tiers unlocked for the log book?
For T1-T5 evolutions, you will get them naturally and easily over time as you progress through gaming. Do not save your sprouts, just harvest them all.
For T6, you will get them all by time you reach around ~1B/T red bits.
For T7/8, do not go for them until you are at 5s/instant gaming (very late stage) - requires deep farming (W6 skill).

Ty
ok, ready to start
i don't tell them that. i jsut say its for later
most are content just knowing its 'locked' behind something they haven't gotten to yet
is The Divine Scarf the best neck piece for fighting?
Some will argue deathblossom
active, likely deathblossom (fomo) or strung tooth (uncrafted form) are likely better
but for afk, divine scarf definitely king
btw, do we know if you can unlock the jade emp gaming evo before the superbits one?
like would it just give you the 5th one, i assume?
I can try that
I haven't did it yet
like i assume that's how meal plates work, too
Both skills aren't up to that threshold anyways
I unlocked emporium first
Ok wow
i would assume it just raises evo cap by 1
Yeah same
but can't remember if I got the top plant before getting the superbit
yeah, that's what i'd assume, too. but figured since discrete unlocks like artifacts exist, who knows 
got this on alt, yuge
Artifacts did strictly mention that
i mean, we can't really rely on anything that lava says in game 
someone could probably look at lavacode, but i'm not built for things like that
!merit3
1๏ธโฃ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2๏ธโฃ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3๏ธโฃ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4๏ธโฃ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5๏ธโฃ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6๏ธโฃ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7๏ธโฃ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
By default the material cost to produce each salt will increase starting at rank 3. This does not increase the amount of salt needed and the efficiency will be somewhere between 80% at rank 3 and ~50% at high ranks. As it's generally difficult to get enough materials early on consider buying it when it starts being applicable.
โ๏ธ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.
1๏ธโฃ One point into obols makes it possible for them to drop at all. Obols are rare items giving stat boosts when equipped.
2๏ธโฃ Buy for all unlocked characters. Afk gains are very important and 2% per character is quite a lot when you start out with just 20%. Purchase more every time you get a new character.
3๏ธโฃ Mob respawn increases your kills per hour making opening portals faster. If you are done with world 2 for now you can skip this in favor of purchases that help in all worlds.
4๏ธโฃ When maxed you are likely to get a bit over 7 gems for every 10 kills on average regardless of boss or difficulty.
5๏ธโฃ Obols are rare and more drop rate will help you fill out your obol pages faster.
6๏ธโฃ More balls = More gems, arcade bonuses and other items.
7๏ธโฃ Not much better than Amarok gear for a significantly higher price.
8๏ธโฃ EXP Converter is not worth using.
โ๏ธ The two star talents boost card drops and mana regen. Put a point here as soon as you start farming the W2 minibosses. The other points increasing the drop rate are less important. Buy the Silver Antique and Capitalist Case from the forest shop daily for more chances instead until after arcade balls are maxed.
man, w2 merits are so meh early on
time for arcade balls
solid first print ## alt copper sample
and apparently the same print for iron too? 

i assume artifact chance is where i should focus?

really? i only thought arti cause people seem to have a hard time getting th em
Ram?
plenty of other sources of artifact chance, only a few for forge cap
oh poor you
i mean you have doot
And like a fuckton of moltis
some days i believe ram and sheepie are the true best pets
speaking of its time for my free pull, wish me luck!
but then i remember how much QoL and passive gains that doot gives
no luck, another custard

man, i really can't afford my red salts 
arent red salts the easiest to afford?
i print 23 spore caps, one cycle is 80 atm 
ram is big game changer
this another account?
yeah, alt account i made to try and get a feel for early game progression given all the changes
also to get some info for new gear command we were working on
tl;dr w1 is a joke, w2 is pretty easily afk'd through with some owl/roo, then you hit sheepies and it's kind of wtf
tbh, sandy pots was kind of my first wall on first character since you can do amarok so early now
now sheepies has been a bit rough, i probably need to throw people on skilling for some more levels
if im trying to get skill level son maestro do i focus effeicency and put him in equinox? or focus exp and just send hin to respective location?

the latter, you don't care about efficiency as long as you're at 100 (or 90+ typically)
only asked cause in equinox you seem to get alot more xp off base(well needing more eff as well)
next one is boss door well last one is actual boss room right?
115 with 4 pets done 
Cant afk in equinox
only active farming there?
iiii guess, active pushing w5 with es so wouldnt wanna give that up
whats the link to the pet breeding guide yall seem to just have all this stuff
everyone else still on div for now, i have sacrafice for goat god just need to wait for enough points
didnt know there was a guide for that, thought i guess theres a guide for almost everything here
!guide probably
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
yes it was thanks
@bleak gazelle just got

Which class is that 
wizard, barb got like 32 or something
New account or smt?
also to get some info for new gear command we were working on
tl;dr w1 is a joke, w2 is pretty easily afk'd through with some owl/roo, then you hit sheepies and it's kind of wtf```
I'm not at pc and my phone won't let me switch accounts so I cwnt progress 
It just sky rockets
uhh, about a month now apparently
getting to amarok was just a couple of hours
#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message
but i don't check it everyday outside of the first week or two
Bad day with the pain @bleak gazelle so not been on much today
hope it subsides some
My rsi is playing up
I miss idleon already. But I'm getting new PRs for rep weight at the gym so....I guess not total loss
my red salt speed is getting so fast im becoming unable to live a life outside idleon
jesus christ lmao
gotta check omni procs every 59 mins
bro is hourly clicking salt
._.
Send them all to the same island that's how 
Go grind the suggma recipe then maybe lol
Heya any help with leveling catching on my VW? Im at 65 catching now, I have like 30% chance to catch stuff in w5. Exp going very slow, his efficiency sucks and idk how to boost it. Got lustre net/rex rings/all the catching gear
My suggma stats have been tainted by vman speedrunning so the skull is already diamond
Long way to go lol
Can you do equinox?
Still ass, my efficiency is so low
Ahhh damn, Iโm not sure then, youโre a bit higher than me still
Thats like 2 whole kills.
chaotic troll skill eff card and multitool stamp will help greatly. catching is always pretty ass
Yeah im 5 div levels off multitool atm, Will be a big help
see how your xp rates are with w4 if you transfusion it?
I guess I should go get that stamp now that my bubos 50 lol
Not even 2 kills, the m in 2m must mean mini
It seems to be exactly the same, the gain in EXP isnt worth the loss in efficiency
But ill try anyway...
just unlocked w5 what do i do
...I just put 60 points into maestro transfusion and it seems like my efficiency is somehow exactly the same and my EXP hant changed
SOmething strange is going on here
Have you thought of using it
Wait its not passive???
Oh my
No thats why corner is triangle
Ok well yeah my EXP rate goes down, its too much -efficiency
yeah, with 60 points might be too much 
if w5 with dimwit isn't good, try w4 with the other prayer that reduces eff but +xp?
I feel like it wont be, +30% is very small considering I already have +400% as a baseline but I'll try. Think I might just wait for multitool stamp
Work on catching stamps/bubbles while you wait out the last levels too, can prob get a pretty good jump in a couple days
ayo, bribes be huge, i got my 2nd alch bubble slot
aka everyone gets level up bonus now
๐
stop snorting the pre workout mate
I almost wanna do prints i am so motivated. almost
I dont take pre workout since i work out so late i dont want to dick with my sleep
fair haha, i never liked it personally
just protein and creatine right before.
im getting so close to done with my cut, cant wait to start bulking again
I havnt really started my cut yet. Ive worked a desk job for like 12 years so i was working on rebuilding everything that deteriorated. A month ago my bench was only 95. today i broke 205 for rep weight.
thats huge, keep it up man
should i have all 7 of my characters in divinity
205 is very nice man
I used to be a beast back in highschool so i have a lot of mass still. but the deterioration is rough.
If you dont have doot you want to def push for goat before going back to lab. i think ttheres a pin
yeah i was looking through them but its all so confusing lol
I know 205 is not a lot or anything special. but the progress I have made in a month has me so hype atm. starting to feel like i used to be.
i wish sneaking would give me some god damn smoke bombs so i could go back up floors
I need to go back and look at the sneak meta build again. i just threw my people on veils for a bit since i know that was part of it
i hit 135 the other week at 125 bw so 205 is pretty good man
ty ace. coming clutch as always
im not high enough for the lotuses or the bead things yet
Think you can help out Sar with div? I am doot scum so not sure the answers.
need some more info, got an IE/IT you can share?
yeah thats how ive been pushing. my level 6 floor detection is kinda high though so pushing bombs to get it a bit lower before i start freeing all 3 people on that floor
its crazy to think only 1 person is technically the jade farmer.
ye, where's your scroll at?
I bet someone out there has something for giga jade farming
hehehe... 58 :C
i only had a level 1 scroll so i ditched it for an extra veil
and didnt seem worth to go back to that low of a floor
share your public link
just to farm a new one, you think it would be?
oh bro scroll is sick. worth going back for if you can get a semi decent one
oh shoot mb
Cuts suuuuck.
Hmmmm
you arent wrong bro. I just hit 6 months sober though so thats actually making it a lot easier than it was previously for me to cut lol
Im not good at cuts. never have been. My body style doesnt compliment it well so my goal is to lift enough that eventually the fat burns away on its own and i end up just yolked but not ripped.
Oh, yeah, you just got to W5? Welcome to full afk simulator. If you want the most **efficient **gameplay, then put everyone on Div and close the game. Check afk gains only after the hour has passed and check sailing/gaming at the same time.
If you want to keep playing, that's fine too, I'd probably just take your DK or whoever and go do some backtracking stuff (skilling, dungeon, deathnote farming, just getting levels, card farming, etc) and leave everyone else on div. Just not that basically everything will be much better once you unlock some gods
Congratz to you mate! That is fantastic! That might be my problem right now. Cuz I do enjoy a cocktail or two every night. Very proud of you
This is also assuming you don't have Doot
Thanks man, appreciate it ๐
im not really either lol, but im shallow and have no personality so i need the six pack to get hot girls l0l
hmm ok thanks
yeah no doot
or really any good companions yet
lol. im going for like a Hafthor Bjornson look pre cut. kinda like how he was in GoT
hey man, as long as you got something you're good at 
haha, thats pretty much how i look now and what i go for, hence the bjorn name :p
im just not quite tall enough haha
Ironically I almost always go with Bjorn for my names or something viking-esk. But i didnt think i was gonna take idleon too serious
But once i realized i was sticking around....
Looool
yuge
Bro.... have you seen my names... lol
stuck stepwood is still my favorite
i really need to farm 110k pearlers huh
Id rather make out with a moving semi truck
Is there a calculator to un-fuck you refinery? Ive levled the later salts way too much and cant keep up
justlickit lmfao
huuuuuge
wait even better, forgot to resample after i unlocked multikill 
you konw what the worst thing about beginner drop rate is? you kill mobs that drop nothing, not even coins 
If I have 2 SB do the stacks for plunderous kill stack together? i.e. if I did 1k kills on 1 SB and 1k kills on another would the passive count 2k total?
forgot what it was like not getting materials and coins from everything you kill 
i understand drops, forgot about coins
i tried rolling for some books but have just gone on full skill eff since now
@strong shale I got today
maybe one day i'll roll for the book again
Getting min 1m kills for each monster on my 2nd bb
what do these guys do
sparkle can be decent for certain spice set ups
tdy is a good day
one of the best spice and combat pets pretty sure
you know you can check it here right
expecting an idleon player to read is crazy tbh
word. same with doing quests
get damage up big dawg
@bleak gazelle 
how many do you need?
i meesed up 
22 more
why are you guys opening alts
dang bro lol
total
get rekt noob
30
i got bored 
(i didn't use 7 rezzes on mine or anything)
play other game lol
do i respawn in the room if i wait 10 minutes 
no
aw
why cant i play idleon 
How many more purple cogs I need now please?
for what
cuz its boring
1 big spender 1 ftp

pretty sure you do now?
i also only check once every 2-3 days
he wouldve healed anyways 
Need to get 78 purple cord so can get world 3 boss keys in ex access menu
what are your stats looking like?
i just open up on my dk and let em auto minichief the whole day
its not like an alt slows down my actual progress so why not 
if not bubo for water once
here was my warrior that didn't need 7 rezzes or anything
i didnt think the stomp would kill me 
dang yo, already 1.12x DR?
lol
i wonder why my hp/mp didn't show up on stat sheet
you had none 
i just kinda whaled for serenity
no way you guys did owl you should have like 400 base damage
because it was just uh conviently there
owl is slow
yeah rush alchemy to speed up progress
hi
hi
yew can do it!
use pots
die
Almost done getting kills on world 5 monsters
@bleak gazelle main now
best killroy ever 
oh, i guess i can actually live this one
the first time i tried it was like wood mush or tysons and i just died right away 
i should work on my BM... but i hate it so much lol
did you at least get the +1 second
i don't remember 

Ohhh, active BM arc lfg ๐ฅณ
nah. just killroy
got my first elderich artifact
๐ฆ lol
BM is so bad lol
@strong shale iron chest method good but i notice less chests
Probably good first one to get eldritch I guess lol
should i try to upgrade my squirrel more or just focus on bit gain?
cause with kitsune off the wait is 11.7 min
and turned on kitsune is at 2min
you can tell the game wants me to stay poor by not even giving me ancient maneki cat
So wild to go from barely getting green bits to getting over 1m in 1 collect lol
keep kitsune on and push squirrel speed imo
can it go down lower than 2 mins?
Yes
yes
oh that is crazy, guess ill push on with that
you'll hit 5 second gaming around 1.7min if you've got enough crops and the upgrade
i've got a bit to go for instant gaming, too
i think i need more crops then to help boost
my farm lv is at around 116?
so i am hitting a wall on new crops
5 seconds at 1.7 seconds? 
1.7 mins I think he meant

farm is lv 119
crops found is 104
and sadly my mush is stuck at 1.1% chance at ranking up
you've got some more crops than me, so shouldn't be too long for gaming stonks to go brrr
Can use that to get an idea of how close you are
then i guess you just were able to game better than i in world 5 then
Pfft I have 9 hour gaming๐
i mean, i've technically been in w5 for a year so 
same xD
been here before the W5 release and so happy i can use candy there now
i just had terrible nugget luck
was on mobile and lost a 2.5mil nugget when my phone died
so my new nugget went from 550k to 775k and im salty still

There is no reaction emoji that will display the unfathomable agony this sentence evokes
lol
BM so bad lol
pft, only 680000m higher than me, noob
worst part is, i got proof it is older due to a lower farm level at the time
just noticed the name lol, fucking cptpewpew lmao
nice lol
I told you bro i got interesting names lol
i love it
needed someone for S and P so i made one PlsGibName
xD
the before and the after
the 2mil where i had a farm of 110 vs the 700k i have where my farm is now at 119
I'll be MIA for ~2 weeks, remind me then.
Won't have access to my PC, maybe laptop at times but ill see
my favorite trick for kilroy is to make your char go autoplay and comme back with like 15 kills cuz your DK decided to catch flies instead of killing sand pots
lol
why do our BMs have similar names
yall are soul mates
would be nice if auto did not affect skilling if you were in combat
now kith
idk what ur talking about i do kilroy to catch bugs
๐ฅฐ๐ฅฐ๐ฅฐ
also, just thinking of the nugget pain again
gonna go make a lil guiness and jump back to elden ring i guess
need a break
sounds nice lol, have fun ๐
came to f11 to get the hat but look at all these nice gloves so far :o no hat yet
just need 5 more gloves and a hat and im happy XD
just want to confirm this doesnt actually upgrade anything and its not some dumb lava joke? lol
it does nothing
cool, i thought as much which is why i havent leveled it yet, but started second guessing myself thinking maybe it was weird lava shit lol
@grand scarab I got a suspension warning today for the dumbest reason
So their were infertile abandoned little eggs right I rolled one of them and it exploded
Their was only yok nothing else
And then the other 3 went missing
o.o
They thought it was me
stop stealing eggs
They checked camera footage and a hawk had taken the other three
ayy, vindication
I DIDNT STEAL FUCKIN EGGS
haha
well at least they found proof so you dont have to deal with that, still annoying though
I'm still on a suspension warning 
I thought you were talking about discord suspension for a little bit
No
i did at first too tbh lol
just get suspended so u can play more idleon
i mean thats a valid point
Big brain move
get those hourly clicks movin
Guys what am I missing out on?
the last bubbles?
What should I upgrade
the last few bubbles
gdi, just closed steam and realized that my red salt is ready to rank up
i would guess real life
lmao
my red salt is always ready to rank up ;-; it's getting so tedious
I'm at school rn. So sadly I do have a life
xD
Jealous
im only using 40m gmush caps per hour, i was hoping i'd get closer to 1b faster so i could just put it on auto forever but so much more optimization
My parents would take all my shit so I couldn't play idleon

So what are the important bubbles I should level? for skilling
get new parents, play idleon

all of them
IE auto review helps break that down
it's better than asking ppl cuz half the time ull get good advise and half the time ppl will troll u
yooo, got the last sushi crop
mushroom time
feels
Damit
its fine vman speedruns past him
what wave of frozen td do i have to get to get souls
pretty sure it does
idk what i want to do less. new samples, or updating myTD waves
I mean doing wave 1 would get you souls
Just a tiny bit
lol

i dont think ill ever do that cloud
its for the best
im getting stuck with all the hard ones. :C
yeah, mine are all pretty easy rn, just not in a rush
why not
close to the shrine one, prob can hit the 1m sample one, 250 all chars will take like 1 hour once i have everyone out of lab, half way to 75 GS
because dungeons are awful. aand theres no point at all in doing them except w1 for opals
i have the w3 solo one done somehow
can you just cheese it like w1?
just need to get w2 which is ass and i need better tools
yes but i never cheesed it
but i check IT and it says i did
I got to like wave 10 and it still says highest wave 0
And gives me no souls
gotta clear all the mobs faster
if you dont clear the waves before the boss spawns it doesnt count unless you kill the boss
Yeah
Thereโs a video guide for that td in w3/4 chat pins
What level do you have your towers at
In construction
any good
is okay semi early on for the extra speed.
dang i was right. im lookin at like a week at rats active on DK for GS these dang ducks
whelp off to bed i go. season 5 drops tomorrow and i gotta finish some painting before i gotta get that grind on
Gn ๐
finally, another golden twine
think thats my first one in like 8 hours lol
no lol, nor do i have the bars lmao
but this one i can actually farm and is prob best done on bubo so i wanted to get it done now
@grand scarab @frank prairie I got today
How do I verse the higher difficulty snake in w2?
pog ๐ congrats. i dont even have eldritch unlocked yet ๐ฆ
why would it be best done on bubo
its best on es
best for me*
i still had a lot of work to do on alch
I only unlocked them yesterday
two birds one stone kinda thing
how many you got so far
i need to start pushing rift lol. i stopped at skill mastery
just got my 9th. hopefully have like 11-12 by the time i wake up
can you do at least oranges for bubo yet?
because if you have 9 you should be fine for now
i mean, i can do tremor wurms lol
All my alts up to 2nd last level in world 5
wurms would likely be better to go to then, if you dont even have the salts or bars for more sets i would reccomend it so you can get the amazing alch bonuses sooner 
yeah, i agree, especially considering im salt locked on a bunch. im just the kind of person that likes to get shit done and not have to go back to it ya know, have that piece of mind that its done and i can move on and focus on the next thing
fair reason
plus i only have 1 bubble left to unlock at this point, i was sitting at wurms until i got close to done with bubbles for that reason
just dont accidentaly use the twines 
locked em instantly lol
What map in world 4 to farm them in please @grand scarab
Floms
Ty
Been bad day with the pain so been hard to think today @worldly lagoon
i'm sorry :( get some rest?
I had a nap already and almost 5pm here
wtf? o.o
pretty sure locking just prevents moving it
@worldly lagoon you saw new relic I got today?
yeah lock prevents moving not using
oh bruh, what the fuck...
which one? been a while since i got a relic
well thanks for letting me know that, holy christ
want some more?
greenstack them 
lava should give us more uses for those kind of things
workin on it
congrats! do u have eldrich fury yet?
You need a good enough claim really like 8+ hrs its not worth to use unless its like that
today i got 2 more good yellow gloves
No only unlocked them yesterday
Bro wtf how do I initiate the higher difficulties on w2 dungeon
break the rocks and dont fail
i also broke sub 1 hr red salts today
Ohhhh
every single area in w2 dungeons has a rock, break all the rocks (before finishing the task cuz they are immune once task is complete) and fill the completion bar
w2 dungeon is weird 
like there would be weird things in idleon
thicc
I got to rift 31 last night @worldly lagoon
making good progress
Stopped for now not sure what to do in next rift
i miss rift, those gains were so huge
i miss getting good gains
now it's all just tiny gains over and over
make a ftp alt
thats what your second account is for ...
u don't understand, i wouldn't last f2p
Main now @worldly lagoon
nice xD
Just got anew green bubble then
oh my DR has been getting rly good lately