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O yeah what makes SB so strong it's 3x stronger then my next strongest
Cool, thanks! Iโll try the rift floor again with bubo or dk
Bubo has a risk of wiping all your skulls out if too much poison gets put down. and you can more accurately farm skull upgrades with SB imo
If you know how to target upgrade them.
Do you need to do the onyx statue quesst on each character or is it account wide?
Ahh. I just set it and walked away
benefits of onyx statues is account wide, but quests are character specific
I should figure out which char has my onyx quest
Or is onyx the monolith ?
Yes
...So I only need to do the quesst on 1 character then if I drop the statues it will work for all?
Yes. Tho do it on all for Crit damage statues
Still wanna do it on every char either way lol
i need to finish doing it on all my people just for the crit statues.
I put it off tho because i been working on maxing more vials
I should finish getting those power statues.
Hoping I can finish this golden twine farm up in the next few days
My second ES will be able to come out of lab and I can start making a bunch of gains again ๐ฅณ
not me with over 2.5M statues sitting in my bank
how many vials you up to now?
still trash.
lets go
O yeah what's scaling people's dr so much ? Is it just a ton of small upgrades ? I'm at 10.2 with a obol set or 6 without. Seen people are easy 30+ now if not considerably higher
be warned- you now spawn 4 crystal mobs daily - so don't charge into suggmas recklessly
Wish I had all the statues I used for 150-170s was pushing 200s in w4 with spear bubo
Prob gonna do a vrun later and sample out new mob mats for vials
What does the world five pet do I just got it I'm not even at 4 yet still need to kill the boss
I assume vman you sample while that aoe skill is procd ?
yeh after 2 or 3 boss kills
Did you get doot?
Yea
lol
Insanely op. Makes all gods major links perma active
Theres a pin for doot
Where
Samples on point bby lol
How much damage does vman need to get past 3-4 bosses ? I'm just shy of 3rd at 1.5b
No idea. lol my vman is trash

Pulling the lava skull chat back. My bubo got his lava skull in like 2mins after having the whole map covered in death farts. My sb took like 25mins ๐ฆ idk how to target but they were in full auto
Damn
i need those last 3 printer slots lol
I kept wiping the map and the skulls and no where to go so it kepot resetting me. i spose everyone has different luck

Seeing that vman I def need to do some samples xD
my samples are so bad lol
Something like that was my experience as well. Bubo is great. SB and ES decent.
Looks comparable to mine from early w5 end of w4
Last time I really sampled
Not sure how to get the view you got tho
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What dmg i need to have to defeat w5 boss with es?
Umm ok!
I find just on nightmare with vman... but ok ty anyway , i will search on google
A oke thx, and sry
edited the pin, maybe it's a bit easier to read now
Someday ill have MK
where fibers of absence 
in the trash where it should be lol
decent set up? been sorta reworking my push set and not sure what i wanna use lol
you can skip the multikill card when you dont ahve multikill - if you do get it however you should use all multikill cards
thats kinda what i figured
quack, have you devolved into a w1er? 
Ace idk man. i feel like im getting worse and worse
in 90% of all scenarios this is useless
Does this autocast?
yes, but this is probably the 10% where it's better 
I could see why it would be useful atm. Since i dont have MK and im high enough dmg that i can afford the dmg hit for more portal kills
idk, the only point where i can see that being useful is when u already have multikill and want 30% more where the dmg decrease doesnt affect your multikill
Guild gift really popping tf off this week
only 6.6m more kills till dk gets to minichiefs 
even with it on at level 1 i dont think im anywhere close to MK on my bubo. i should check my SB he is way high
i mean if you're 1-2 tapping mobs and can't get MK and putting it on doesn't turn that into 3 hitting then it should be fine still
35 min left of weekly gold food bonus reminder. 
oh, gdi, this stupid thing
That accuracy prayer isn't helping ๐ค
yay artifact find chance for a whole week XD
Praying I can hit rift31 for eldritch artifacts this week.. just depends on my DK lmao
hahahaha totally forgot about that
looks like it was just copper...
is it worth redoing gods for fish 
survey says no
for just fish samples? id say no - but im a lazy af person so dont listen to me XD
i stopped sampling somewhere in w5 - im so lazy i probs wont resample until w7 or doot because i just dread having to redo gods
sounds just like quack 
-15% damage doesn't affect your multikill in most circumstances since it's by powers of 2
except he has doots* 
if i had i would be sampling the shit out of everything
now im at around 20% my sampling capacity i think because i just dont wanna redo then
im trying to be better :C I just suck so much its hard lol
assuming damage scales logarithmically, -15% multiplicative damage only brings you down a multikill tier 23.4% of the time [math is log(1/0.85)/log(2)]
hey you got life going on man, play the game to have fun
we'll just be here to bully you when you don't do things 
atleast my AR is almost up to early W6. last week it was still w4 lol
I find upgrading stamps to be such a nuisance
To grab random stuff out of my inventory potentially across multiple chars based on their highest carry cap
so many clicks for stamps. why no click and hold lol
carry cap is easy to fix, make best bag on vman and call it a day, him with prayer will be the best for it
i need to go farm that last thing for the followers stamp
am i really supposed to get soverign artifacts at 0,01% chanCE
Isn't his carry cap talent for standard mats only tho
Skilling mats would be the same evrywhere
I put a copy of all my best bags onto archer because of crafting instead
i mean, should have best bag on all really but...
except for mining, make sure you forgo bags on one person 
true
quantity > quality, but maxed turtle vial really helps
not that far into sneaking ytet
then we 
I'm almost at 4* for forge cards already lol thanks to forgetting about a copper pipeline i never disabled
how many does it take for 5*? a few thousand?
Make sure you grab tusk and use the star sign when you check the map
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=artifact find
Search every bonus in Idleon!
at least 5 thousand
upgrades. lleggo
I lied, 4590 total for 5* forge cards
meh not really, per lava rounding that is 5k :3
true
I love when my bubo just stops using its respawn ability for like 30 seconds at a time. even if its off CD
yeah how do you fix that
just started leveling my bubo cause i wanna have em boosted level just in time for goat god
and this mfer just stalls all his skills
what skill you got on its bar ?
it doesnt happen super often. i think it has something to do with if the map is cleared before it comes off CD then it puts a delay in because they are no longer in combat
nver really saw that one, and bubo been whiping the map every sec last time i did some cc
no gas?
nah CC is only 4 skills.
gas should not be needed beside if you only wanna do 1 cc to pre load the map

ghost will spread the gas
i see
still need the points in gas tho
That delay is specifically because of the syringe skill. It requires a target, so if it gets queued while everything is dead, you get stuck waiting.
ahh that makes sense. ill just drop that one. not like it does much at this point anyways
the blue Energy Bolt thingy does the same, Crazy Concotions from Shaman is similar
bubo deleting a map every sec is such a beauty
is there an issue having my dynamo dice skill on the bar too? or is that fine
still aint got trophies for all my toons
should be fine as far as i know. but i stopped using it when i woke up one day to 4 new trophies from it
It just wastes a bit of time, since it rolls constantly. Imo it isn't worth the loss to get more than 1 trophy for Slab
My first bump in months. From 1.3m to 8.5m
wished i could get that kind of luck
looking at the upper end of what a nugget can roll is always such a disapointment
Mentally, I look at /10 that max number and pretend that is it
Rolling outside bottom 10% is somewhat rare
nugs are weird. one day i was at 10k for a month or so and suddenly within a week i was at 250k
i was at 120 for the entire time then i just shot up to 3.9k glad this is normal
was gonna ask about it later lmao
WTB add farming to doot procs lol
you mean weekly doot.
i wish i had a single bean
ive been dogstuck in sandy pots for since i started playing
doot is 50/50 bro just hit and you good
i got sheepie as my first pet and then just sandy pot bloque frog non stop
no
wtb R essence gain lol
this noob sitting here waiting for essence ticks >_> bahaha
or playing his daily summonings ๐
nahhhh :p
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lol, you on same floor as me now
can someone tell me the best tactic to beat best wave with 4 pets?
need better bombs
same lol
which wave are you trying to beat? Just to unlock 5 pets? or are you doing the 115 equinox?
I cant get better bombs to hit
i see you are also the same rn
yall got bombs? ๐
yeah, ive been sitting at veils for like 2 days
just got a new veil, moved everyone to bombs now
if i get 2-3 new bombs i can push that floor pretty easily
got my detection on that floor down to low 20s though so getting very close
whats stealth per level
I should try to push rift again soon.
divinity question
base level gives bonuses right?
like that lower buff
i dont think so
No idea. maybe like 4 people i know off the top of my head might know that one
blessings are for everyone without connecting
im jsut thinking king doot's effect
all divinities count as active
just like sheepie's all big bubbles count as active
same with sheepie
some big bubbles have a lv 0 effect
like the +1 hammer slot in the forge bubble
im pretty sure you need to unlock bubble as sheepy because level 0 bubble gives nothing
a select few do
thats why i asked this question
blessings you still need to unlock god
if i got king doot pre W5
would i get the divinites blessings
but since you have doot you can start lab grind early
damn
i doonot
it was a hypothetical
otherwise id be able to tell just based off that first one
#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message here ios doot info
becasue 30% is a very large amount of xp increase
getting there ๐
and i make like 1m+ an hourish on rats
nicee
not 3 digit?
lol
and so it begins
I know you been out of this chat a while. but I am still just as trash as when you used to be here lol
whats your detection rate on average
the trap one doesn't work like this for some reason lol
im basically 0% up to the highest floor since i dont have the rift yet for prestiege
insufficient dmg for the rift or havent done it?
both most likely.
dunno what dmg it requires but thats what im averaging on most of my people
it scales very fast
so does your dmg
not sure whats really needed to do it in a timely manner
ill send ss of rift 30
what really holds you back is the 5m kills afk
that can be a pain. but its easy to deal with early on. put your BB in there and leave him alone until you hit one
or even a couple people if they just lab soaking
I did that when i knew i was going to push several levels in like a week. i just stuck them in to collect the slightly lower level KPH
Ill finish upgrading everyone to kruk gear. or atlleast my main people. then ill prob push rift
or just the damage makes it really easy to push upwards of 1M KPH
to get sneak mastery
I dont think ive ever seen 1m kph in rift. usually like 100k or so
is this still the best build for spice?
I was getting 400kph when i first started pushing it
really unoptimized SB on rift 37
current rift
can i collect rift tears afk? or do i9 have to active?
my dk
I been tryin to figure that out for a few days. dunno.
illegal dmg 
this is a kek vote. sorry non w6-er. there's no way that's not winning
oh bro that farming needs to win for sure
the fact that cash is even a bonus
gosh that is going to be nioce to speed up my farming
but i dont want the center
wow so nice to see
This is the only correct vote, trust 
@solar seal do you know if thats the best build for spice?
yes dont see why it shouldent
whats best build is really about where you are w/ atom collider and pet unlocks
because its kinda old so im just making sure it still is
i can only get 1 of my 2 W6 spices to actually collect lol
only if your d chef is already at atom range or else you still have to boost beach docks
the pet sheet is still good even if its old - nothing has changed w/ breeding
alr thanks
my comment is really about what jaegar said
it depends on 1) your diamond chef level (if its still low enough that you can get levels w/ discount tag which goes into 2) whther you have atom collider NBLB bonus
i tried to follow a guide someone gave me a while ago for frigid souls and i still cant make it to end of roudn 10, do i just need to level towers a bit?
they usless only need 1 for meal fr fr
Pancake has the best imo for TD
whats d chef?
thats why i need htem lol. i have everything else up to jade plate almost
if you can't even do frigid souls to 10 then yeah you have a massive tower level issue
if you don't have a wave 40 w3 TD, then yes likely your towers are still too weak
twinsies? lol
oh you dont have 1 of them?
you are using 1 forager / 3 tsars || 3-4 burger - correct?
that bubbles sclaes so horribly wow
its more that it has a lot of decimals that don't show
whaaaat?! lol
getting 0,07 more for 957 levels has to be bas scaling no?
row 1 above spice you want = 1 forager, 3 nukes
row with spice you want = 4 burgers, if not 3 burgers + 1 flashy or other buffing pet
im only missing the last 2 spices from w6 but no chance i get there very soon
oh....
just trust me. nuke power doesn't matter. do my set up
bet will do.
nope it scales amazingly because it's an exponential
not here
try typing these into a calculator:
1.29^100
1.3^100
Then you'll understand why it's not bad scaling
so doc is not meta spice build?
i thought it was just a X plier never red it properly
tis broke now lol
the doc has couple build according to your progress
it is for general collection. but when you have new territory w/ low power and you just want 1 spice to gather to get new meals - this is the way
im baiscally running this
that's not a forager - its the leaf
forager not the plank 
how yall got such high pets my highest is 18K and i used that to get every spice๐บ
higher breeding level
pet power is rng with a touch of breeding level and BM talents booked
yall got breeding levels? lol
any chance you send a picture of your spice build?
i am higher then quack and he got 2x my pet power
One step closer
245 is really nice cause you can get symbols 240
any reason you using cool bird rather than a nutto or a flying worm?
Birb is cool
no reason, just which ones i have that are stronger
i have farmed a bunch of birds because of the w4 task
really think the book quest is done 
i have a few wurms down later
nvm i lied, i have a stilt seeker. but all burgers are same - jsut cosmetic differences
(diff though in shiny bonuses)
any chance you can make a build for me to reach a level 300 upgrade in kitchen?
for the rng item achivment
easiest 300 is just any of the first 3 spices for kitchen 1. alchemics w/ spice pillage talent should easily get you enough to reach 300
so does 4 alchemics in the jungle and 4 badumdum above and below works?
Honestly almost any setup will work if you are just going for the 300 achievement. Even if you go full whale above / below - you will cap out on production if you donโt collect often. Remember that the requirement goes up each time it finishes. So if you need a lot of spice, you will want to check often - this is why spice pillage is important in this case. So you dont run into trouble with the daily 100 cap
what is spice pillage?
If you have 1+ hr afk, have x to 100% chance to collect all spices without going against the 100 limit
that seems very broken for infinity spice
Not infinite, but yes a lot of spice
If you are hella~~ diligent~~ sweaty- you cycle 1 character every 6 minutes to maximize your spice collection
what the fuck... trump is on adin ross stream right now LOL
were in a simulation for sure, jesus christ
That's the kind of shit you do when you desperetly need a few more spices for a jewel an hour before reset
CAUGHT im just here to give info
I dont know how desperate jinx is to get 300
wish theyd hurry up with my pay so i can go pick it up lol
Iโm slowly pushing to W6 but I donโt know what to focus on anymoreโฆ should I target equinox at all?
poggggggggggggggggg

ah damn what do i do for my 9th toon
what you already have?
es then sb
yeah ES is easier to power crunch and then i can split my 1st ES's AFK skill in half
damn now for the hardest part
making a name
yeah, and the strength of the second sb imo is the forge progress which you prob wont have cooking that early so i think es better first
If you can improve it do
lol, i have the most uncreative names ever
If its too hard leave it be
all my equinox now is either waiting game or luck based so i am ignoring it
probably, if theres things youre relatively close to, otherwise prob push w6 then go back and fix everything before you start pushing w6
at first i went my old name i use on everything, then wuxia names, then sanskrit then jackie chan adventures
yuoooo jackie chan adventures used to be fire
What should I prioritize leveling
You should also afk in W6 to level up your chars, the exp thereis insane
leveling up isnt much of an issue really, more about getting the skills cooking since theyre so time gated
Its very important if you havent unlocked 10th char like me when reaching w6
fair, my account was made before he changed it so idk how that changes certain things lol
Its not much after w6, pre its going to slow getting new chars alot
Yea I didnโt grab the 10th character before he changed it. Literally said to myself no need to rush that when I can focus on this and then it changed ๐.
damn lol
Massive L
i dont think it matters much honestly
when i made my 10th char i literally did nothing but send him to lab at level 1 lol
But its fine
Iโm ready for these new sub classes though. Excited to see how they take effect.
Because we are lazy
hell yeah, me too. im excited that ill actually be somewhat caught up and ready for the release
Where are you?
i mean, im still way behind, my account sucks. i havent really been playing that long though haha. im in w6 but havent started pushing yet, playing catch up
but not as far behind as when i started playing again a month ago and was struggling to break 10m damage lmao
lol Iโm mid W5 with only 3m damage.
Early w6 with 250m
True
this my bubo rn
Yea as soon as I saw my kills drop I knew I needed to target damage and accuracy.
I just worked on my account for about a month (mainly div and skills that dont need Anybody to work) then candied to kruk
A shame you cant candy w6
I candied out of W4, probably shouldnโt even be this far into W5 ๐
cant ever candy new worlds or people would be done in 20 minutes lol
i actually kinda like that he does that
Youre talking about late game players?
Yeah probaly seeing as how they could kill Nkruck Before w6 (right?)
not being able to candy the latest world is a thing that lava implemented after endgamers candied w3 to the last room in a matter of hours after release and started to complain that there was nothing to do
Thats crazy lol
haha, love the mentality of speed rushing shit then being mad at the game for it xD
Reasonable I think
Insane times next week.
endgamers got to the last map in w5 after less than 24 hours due to bubo respawn mechanic though, so no candies really didn't do much there either
as a giga end gamer, do you like spirit locks?
yes
Wut r those
in w6 you have to have multiple chars clear maps to get to the next one
no characters can progress at all until a spirit lock has been cleared by the required amount of characters
I heard of it, do you need to unlock the portal on multiple chars or something?
last spirit lock requires 9 characters to beat the map before continuing
took me like 4 days to reach the last map in w6 due to spirit locks, so yeah it's a decent mechanic
jesus, i dont wanna know how long its going to take me if it took you 4 days lmao
4 days is wild ๐
tbf he prob one of the most stacked accounts ive seen around here lmao
well my damage now is kinda wild, I'll comfortably be able to oneshot nightmare w6 boss
wild lol
Is w6 boss lame like the last one
not out yet
Is his card only from packs then?
same with w5 and w4 before it. Card was always available in the packs before the boss even existed
Is the card info accurate?
spending time getting your power up for w6 push is definitely worth it though. beat w5 beginning of april, just now pushing skydoggy lock but doing it very quickly with 1-5M kph
you mean the hp and attack etc?
Ye
probably
Dang really in April? ๐ I thought you were much more senior than me (idk how long youโve been playing but assume not that much longer than me in this case)
thankfully ||for you guys|| lava doesn't balance the game around endgamer numbers
I canโt even remember when w6 dropped though tbh
lol
I feel like being able to kill nightmare variant of the boss pre next world release shouldnt be possible
w6 was february. i started playing in january only. i'm pretty new compared to others in here
early feb iirc
Alchemy never ends though so you can always be more stacked than new content
6 months ago or so
Oh we are about the same start time then Kaito
implement edvins alch mastery asap
that has always happened ever since w4
and even if lava made it "impossible" to kill the nightmare version, a few players would be able to anyway and all the other 99.99999% of the playerbase would complain massively
What does your damge look like
oh snap, think i can finally craft the next vman wep lol
alot, this was my archer 6 days ago
jesus fuck lmao
6 days ago as in it grew much or
6 days as in that's when I posted that image, and I'm not really up for doing full damage meme build now
I don't hourly click anymore, can't stand that brainrot
candying bubbles has also never been easier fyi
still better than 2 min claims
I hate "godshard" screw it
godshard bars are kinda pain, but candies is really the only way to do it
Whatโs your guys advice on the easiest first 10 greenstacks?
Logs
ores and logs
First 10
just go in order
Hahaha
Iโm like thatโs 2 ๐
5 easiest ores and 5 easiest logs
trust 
oak > bleach > jungle > etc...
copper > iron > etc.
Cool I was thinking about doing that. Glad to know Iโm on the right path.
Logs are Easiest by far
That I agree
Yup, logs on logs op
logs definitely easier due to logs on logs, your prints are likely stronger there
so you'll prob end up with 6-7 logs, 3-4 ores for first 10
Not even an opinon its a fact, due to that one wizard abillity
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How far have you made it in vman speedruns @open mountain
80, not gonna sweat for 85 anytime soon
Sooo.... In caveman terms which mob is that
oh idr
been a while, vman speedrunning is something I do like once every 3 months and forget about how to do until I think I can go farther and then check up what the latest strat is
So like in W6 or w5 you made it
w6
80 is like most w4 done, half w5, and easy couple in w6

I should attempt to speedrun today for the cloud
I really don't want to and I'm unsure if I will be able to do it
If you follow the person who got 85 and posted to youtube you should probably be fine
don't forget to 299 book the relevant talents 
My reset is tonight so I would like to relink before then
Done since a while ago
Think I will put ES to farm the last suggma 1000 cards first
Im not sure that would help much
Still stands
"Useful"
Barley but do whatever u want
The real reason is that I don't want to do it
then you should also not forget to make sure your mkpt shinies are like at least level 12 or 13
Thanks, I will use that excuse if I can't make me do it after dinner
How would you allocate points here? Everything is 299
Obviously max speedrun
do you have enough points to max all the ones you already have points in or no?
well first 3 needs to be maxed that's for sure, then probably master of the system, power orb, voodoo statuefication, and whatever is left I'd split between quad jab and eternal luk
Do I need more than one point here? I won't take any samples and the rest is just respawn I believe
having that maxed and having killed a few bosses actually lets you stay on the last maps while the mobs respawn continually from you having an absurd amount of respawn%
respawn shuld still make a difference even if you are just portal pushing
150% respawn per nightmare boss is kinda nuts
Alright then I will max it
that's 600% after you've killed w1-w4 bosses
I still don't know if crystals count for portals tbh
Considering if I should max cmon out crystals
oh damn feels like I've looked up the answer to this before but I've forgotten
@junior dune @open mountain it does not
Wow thanks for testing that!
i was curious
ty for testing, I have no more maps to test on 
Same otherwise I would have done it
it sort of mkes sense that they don't. otherwise choco chip would be #1 chip for active portals
not that it isn't already busted, but would be even more so
Very smart vman
Don't forget speed pots for some damage
Does chaotic effaunts card (skill exp gain) affect lab and divinity?
Both lab and divinity must explicitly state div xp or lab xp
Chaotic troll (skill eff) does work for lab though
Can't come up with much more optimization
coldseeker bullets probably
FOMO damage necklace if you have that
Was so long since I considered that
otherwhise it's looking good
My 2 mil damage is gonna take forever to delete his 350 mil health tho
Don't have those but I can probably find some better ones
Just giving you the info ๐
What about cookie 
if you don't have it, then kruk scarf is probably your best bet
Didn't buy it
I've absolutly never used that but turns out to help
Yeah thank you for the help man. once I settle in to w5, my damage should go up alot and it will be doable
Is godshard chest/leg better than divine for speedrun?
I helped! 
I wouldn't imagine this being optimal
Yeah mk per tier
Even though they have strength stones
What talents are vital to book x20 because they're pretty strong game changers? (i.e. on the same tier as tentacleye for bubo)
Blood marrow
Nah it isn't nearly as great as you would expect
i don't think there's really anything besides tenta/blood marrow that are game changers
logs for logs
Good point. Does it need a certain level? Or just as high as possible? Also I assume the same for that one talent that one vman talent that enchances various talents on other classes every 25 levels.
orb?
Just high as possible
enhancement maxes out at 250, i think 225 is the statue one which is good
enhancement bounses* max out at 250
You dont always use the 20 book check out? Your going to spend more than 20 if you gamble for max books.
I know most actives are good to book but i'm talking really really high prio like tentacleye since basically it enables your whole class to go into turbo mode. It's way above just a regular boost.
Honestly, this is a weird one, but the dk boomerang upgrade talent is really nice to have at max level for it to be large enough to one cycle w5 brightsides when you miniboss stack
i mean higher orb means you get to have max uptime on it
but there's nothing else as strong as tenta really
I'm working on getting the fury artifact to ancient so I thought I'd do some research into what to book once I actually get it. 
is there any good way to grind xp balloons?
have sheepie and start a new character 
I still don't know what exactly you're supposed to do with DK and minibosses in the wild / colloseum.
Just stack orb as much as possible and kill boss before it ends?
yes
before you get a lot of pickles, it's relatively easy, once you have pickles you'll want to math out how many to use so you aren't sitting there for half your orb cycle trying to whittle the boss' hp down 
For the minibosses that you summon at will I can see it. Colloseum is limited by the mob spawn but it's still working by the end. Anything else where it can be used?
With only 270 orb, i can safely stack 700+ on w5 minis to get enough roll attempts to get that damn obol
"Only" ? Wasn't max lvl like... 283 or something?
I havent finished summoning yet. Iโm on 13/14 cyan
i'm at 343/295 with no bear, could get 4 more levels but haven't booked it
Nah just as high as possible
The fuck even is max lvl anymore? Not the actual level which gets boosted with slug/symbols etc. but the one that's shown on the right.
Do someone have the 85 portal video?
You have way more pickles than i do. I only have like 190 rn
299
Yeah, i'm at 245, but not like i use them all for w5/6 
hi everyone, noob question (i didnโt see the answer in the pins) Whatโs the point of boat speed in early level sailing ? The min time for everything is 116min so even if my speed is greater than it was i donโt see an improvement in my chest per hours
If you're on min, it hardly matters. It starts mattering when you unlock further islands.
okay thanks
Wow Idleon has music apparently judging from that video
nooo i just got the lucky 7s achieve inside a dungeon and didnt get the gems or candy bc of that 
Good things that I don't need 85 portals because I definitely couldn't do that
got paid, got the car washed, and got phoenix wings, what a productive day
and broke the big 10b damage for the first time ever pog
surely doot and slug in these 4 rolls right?
does DR effect card pack drops?
dumpster card pack lmao
double chatoic kruk, fuckkkkk ๐ฆ
rip
1 month closer to pity I guess
another week, another 2 gem shop jewels pog
hoping for orange and green
purple fairly useless i think rn, dont think i can reach it
first one :/
trimmed slot i guess, gotta go see if i can activate it, idk where that one is
fuck, no shot lol, thats so far away
what should i skill here ?
got orange for the second one, lfg
holy shit, that orange one is massive
im now connected to everything i need to be in lab except that one blue way the fuck in narnia up there
coming along nicely ๐
oh shit, i just realized i get the damage one doubled because i have all 4 orange jewels too, so many gains
worth to drop that bottom purple one to pick the blue on up prob right? only lose like 200m damage
the damage one is kinda bad since it's additive with a whole slew of other +damage% sources
but it's always something! 
tru, yeah, itsn ot adding much damage, think ill light the blue one up instead
phoenix wings give me 3b damage right now lol, thats insane
Order of priority?
yes
No chance you could disconnect from sigils for that jewel? Trimmed is good
lol, id prob go skilling first personally out of those
I was thinking either skill xp or cash.
accuracy if you need it, otherwise probably afk then w/e you want at your level
I have everything else. Only those 4 are left.
oh, if from just those...idek, probably cash honestly 
either cash because... cash... or skill xp for vman
i got it connected now, i just dropped the purple damage one
Speaking of, how much should I level vman's skills?
I'd rather not have him solo 2100 skill mastery levels lmao.
my flurbo grind is coming along nicely 
be a real gamer, do it
Is the sailing loot filter just awful? If I tell my ships to only take the second tier or higher, they listen, until the loot pile is full...
Then when they return with a T1 chest they sit at shore and just get skipped when claiming. How is that the way it works?
The arrow artifact is garbage in like 99% of cases. Leave it on minimum.
Im getting 120 on all first
All w1-3*
Any specific reason as to why 120?
Nope, just a clean number
Also its not hard to hit, its probably gonna be the level of the next tool
90-100 depending
Pickaxe 100, net 95, 90 rest
But it COULD be great if my ships would just return with a bad chest and go back until they get a better one
If you wanted to claim a big afk gain of sailing, swap it to iron chest and when you get filled up with iron chests swap it to wooden before u claim any
If you can check sailing often, it's complete garbage. You can use it if you're away for like a week or so and put it on iron.
I fill it up in 6 hours on iron
Then keep it on iron and swap to wooden before u claim any chests
Or check sailing more often
Oh yeah that's a good one. Didn't realise you could swap before claiming lmao
Yea else your guys who dont have an extra iron+ will just trash it
Ye that was my problem
But now you activated my second braincell and I will just swap next time
ayy, just hit last yellow bubble, 2 green bubbles and i have everything ๐
lol, just hit a green one too, so lucky today. 1 bubble and im done ๐
How do you unlock last plant in gaming? Pray to the 0.1%?
yup
Yeah
Amazing
soon 

Onyx'd my sneak statue yesterday. Close to essence.
Ess is the only w6 i need onyx'd and its like meh i dont wanna since im done summoning
but the deposit bonus 
you know it provides more than just the statue bonus
How the hell can you even break 10 DR... I barely got 6 after upping alchemy, cards, stamps and obols.
honestlly bro my DR just be going up and idk how lol
just get more
lmao
first 100%+ cog
you got all of these 
lets goooo ๐
Thats just sad
who cares what the secondary stat is
my poor build rate does lol
There's this updated calculator apparently https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l3RFWq1Zypqkfby1YncOkuY_K4aSist14KUK5dJQ3as/edit?gid=1005058354#gid=1005058354
you get build rate from construction levels not from board cogs
This + directional exp are the only things that matters in construction. The sooner you figure this out the faster it's gonna become for you to do anything in construction
also, focus on Bob bubble any time you can
Lemme hold some lol
sure have a couple of bil BR 
lol
this is with my DKs removed from my board
yeh i know its about hte xp. just so slow still. since i am not currently focusing on bob
This was for you @peak verge btw
Oh
yeah but i dont wanna depo any statues until theyre all onyx and w3 is just bleh ๐คฃ
are you at 30 DR yet?
im at 27x i think, also is this @frigid swift https://i.imgur.com/zm1Xv1X.png
close enough, it should be pretty fast now tbh
3 days ago
oh it says
smol gains.
i wanna see how delgado's looks after they finish filling it out
oh wqait im stupid. gotta upgrade to kruk not magma
lowgun who's your pfp? i feel like i've asked you this before but 
pekora
how is this not in the Ts yet!! curse u lava needing 10t
Bruh i went down going from lava to kruk thanks to bad RNG on the stones.
u also lose all stat from the top/bottom + shoes
@peak verge how many plunderous kills you got?
fml im stupid. i already did the TP pete quest on my DK before i did a GS for the items
is it bad to just send it on salts
yup
then turn off when i need some of previous
ideally you shouldnt have to ever turn any of them off
I like pictures
here is the extended one
ooo yoink
Ever since i stropped streaming i turned my discord server into my own personal Iddleon quick reference server lol
thank you
lol
so is it ever worth to get it to max output at the 1mil cycle?
its always worth
coolio
its how you get to stuff like this
after 1m, each additional rank takes less time because you produce more each cycle, but it's still capped at 1m
I like my salt
visible now
the only part of this i dont get is why does it stay at 11/6/3 for 2 lines
do u just mainline pg2 for a bit there?
One more day to get the 4th divinity god i cannot wait to put people back in the lab
to account for the fact that both rank 1 and rank 2 nullo cycles fit within it
mmm ok
l0l
imagine being strong enough to get on the same server as Low
Thatโs what i like about this game (and this discord) i can go in whatever channel and end up seeing something i think is absolutely impossible
I wonder at which point the multiplicators start to make everything blow up
it blows up sooner or later
i bet jargon has like 7 second refinery cycles
lol i reach 20 M max damage yesterday XD
Ah, guild was 50, I wasn't aware which it was. SB probably but I'd need to respec. Points were kinda willy nilly between duplicate classes. I have fuck all for plunderous so that's something to work on.@bleak gazelle
sometime after where im at now lol
A few more mega feathers would help some, but I think plunder levels would be good. At like 125 talent level, even 1k kills was like .5x
I pretty much have like 0 orb and plunderous. All my girth went into wormhole.
will screenshot soon when it turns to next cycle
i basically gave up at 10 mega feathers lol i barely check it now
This is my cycles
bruh lmao
Could throw a bit more into it, but easier would be just to respec it. Work on Owl a bit, and then try and 4 star Chaotic Chiz card, too
you mean orb kills? 
looks like ill be living at rats for a while....
look man, i'm somewhat close
yall need some orb kills?
1 in 250 card.
Even with Vman I somehow do not trust the process.
...... lol
how tf i got more orb kills than ace. lol that shouldnt be possible
probably cause i went and did 100k plunders and then ES farmed statues
Ace > Almost everyone else > Poops > Me
lol, youre way better than me ๐ฅฒ
me too 
one day 
at least i have my 1m portal kills done i suppose, ill take solace in that
Felt
How many more purple cogs do I need?
8 i think
Ty
time to work on those card DR and DR cards 
ur boards the same as mine, iirc its 8 more flags unlocked + swap the players out
my dr cards are all 4*
Yeah, realized I was looking at my simulated page, sorry 
Midas will likely be good on DK but rn I'm trying to reach close to 10 on ES.
using midas minded prayer on ES gives you less drops per hour fyi
I am aware. That's why I said I wanna reach it on DK with midas and on ES without.
book this!! https://i.imgur.com/FLPLVmF.png
alright, boss cards for card set, owl, stamp, and plunder talent level
then maybe some dungeon rng with keychains
it is booked on my 2nd DK

dont worry
we use books still? I thought that was only good up to w4 ๐
@open mountain yes thank u
realized i needa put those dr shinies in my breeding
So close
why is today so unbelievably hot
96 here rn ๐ฆ
@frank prairie
Bro this new sun we got taking its job way to serious
8c here @grand scarab
35.5 c here
feel like a European
Can get to 50c here
quick, how much does 10m nigiri cost from w6 shop
@strong shale so when claim chests change to wood?
am i a gamer now @frank prairie ? got phoenix wings today ๐
need more damage
That is $30 Aussie for the bundle
so nice though if you have the extra money for it
I have $20 left in my account Friday
i just dropped a fat downpayment on a house 
got to get that damage up
lol, i have dr cards on rn
still chugging along with this lol, need all the DR i can get
When sister brought the house we live rates was 17%
17%, wtf lmao?
why do you stack these?
troll armor
oh fr? who drops
floms
yoooo lets gooo! i got my loan to require $0 down and i got closing costs covered and credits from the seller etc.
need 30 total iirc, think its 3 each for boots or whatever you use em for
Where to farm gold twine?
floms
How do I get rid of this fucking pack pop up
buy it ๐
it fades after a bit
I had to click on it @cyan mantle
nice. we found a new build townhome, using points to buy down rate to 6%, but seller provides 10k closing costs which covers all that, basically. 3.5% down and it was about 15-20k cheaper than everything else we were looking at but about the same sq.ft.
nice nice
i went the USDA loan route because i didnt wanna put a bunch down. 3% fixed rate for 30 years
imagine if wed have just bought pre covid lol, rates would be so low
Rates here was 17% or higher when sister brought our home
how much damage i need to kill w5 boss?
Now the value of my house is up 80k. so i might sell and buy something new in a couple years.
thats way too high lol ๐ฆ that sucks
My memory is actually horrible I've lost 3 hats somewhere in my room
They are allot lower now
whats the best place to get the square drop rate obols
snelbies/pots
what if i hord better chests till i get elderich
which is about 2m more kills
this square grind is taking forever
absolute best is probably tysons by some marginal amount, but pots is typically recommended so you can get glass shards for carry cap stamp (and sand for refinery doesn't hurt) or snelbies if you need to level you card
the card is max
i was all happy with all those glass shards....until even with the 90% reduction i still ran out
so i highly recommend pots if your card is max
ok thanks
i farmed up almost 3 sets from squares to sparkles on them.
geez
then i realized ill never really need more than 2 sets. 1 for fam 1 for active char
Pots is best bet overall for sure
but yea them shards dont last as llong as you want once you start dumpin this
How do I check how many Loot pile + i have
you can check max value in IE/IT, otherwise just let it fill up. If you have Unending Loot turned on (not recommended), add 1 to the value
from idleontoolbox, should I aim to have the same amount of loot pile as ships or is it ideally 2x
Depends on how often you can check
If you check ~4 hours and your boats are at minimum distance, then that's fine. If you can check every 2 hours, loot cap is less important, if you're at like 6+ hours then you want more loot cap
some of us still at 19 hours or so for the last island even after grinding speed for so long >,>
pps always seem to rush worlds but how? i need 35m dmg for w5 boss how do pps reach that high number in one or two months?
Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, dungeon flurbos, and levels/talents are all sources of damage
A bit of rng on sailing artifacts and companions, but most people can do it within a month on average
I've made it to the promised land 
you just made me look, my lowest 3 ship are at 74m and only cuz they are loot/loot captain :3
bruh lemme hold like 10m of each.
all im missing is sov steak and im done with sailing too
lol
i was really hoping that when i got my eldritch fury this morning i wouldl get sov today just to feel good
yeah would be nice, not wasting book on partial max talent
but you need to get all the sumoning bonus for that too
and the elusive charm from sneaking
dunno which one that is but i have most
need the sumoning win one
1 month is crazy i feel like i watched a decent amount of guides and still am way slower then w1-w6 in 1 month what am i doing wrong :C
yeh i think im only missing 2 charms atm.
i'm just glad that I got 299 without having either of the 1.01x achievements, though I got one shortly after
Different people play at different speeds, some people have purchased more bundles, as well. As long as you're having fun while progressing, then you're in a good spot
Beyond that, using tools like IE/IT with Autoreview can be helpful on where to improve your account to speed things up
Or you can also drop your IE/IT in chat to get some help on what to focus on
for someone who is on idleon all day everyday because i WFH... i am really bad lol
meh i ignore idleon when at work, yet i still have it opened on my work comp
some things you're further progressed than me and somethings you're far behind. idleon progression is such a mystery
if i would just stop being lazy and CCing for 2 weeks because im bored and not even use it on bubbles, and othjer stuff like that...id prob be better lol
hey, as long as it's going into liquid/gt it's not a complete waste 
i assume you're farming statues/gfood too
what artifacts give damage
cube and hippo
by proxy of the fact that i was at tremurs. i did manage 100k of hampters and the other one.
https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=ZanzibarTheHip can someone have a quick look how i could improve dks dmg?
Power up your Legends of Idleon adventure with Idleon Toolbox's essential tools and resources for optimizing gameplay, character builds, crafting, and more.
both of which should be obtainable by the time you get to boss
you got beanstalk unlocked?
yep
for early, yeah
after that you have Fury, Steak, Opera Mask, Socrates, then like 3 of the lanterns
yuge gains then
card farming with ES
man, idk why reviewing IT is such a struggle when I use it so much
dr D should be silver or gold starting w5
isnt he once a day ?
i struggle reviewing my own IT more than looking at others
other than that snowman 4s bloodbone 4s
I assume you're swapping from BB to DK. Honestly the #1 thing that's going to give you damage right now is levels. I think average is like 225 by the time they get to kruk
yeah thats exactly right
better start signs
very easy to do alot of em
w2 should be completly done and w1 and w3 should be almost done
oh is it? i thought i was pretty far with star signs thx
You should be able to complete nearly all of W1-3 around the halfway mark of W5, but you're doing good since you've got three slots unlocked
should i farm cards afk? or stop pushing for a while?
I'm in early w5, do you think I can complete the full w4 colosseum with my SB? I need to have 400 gems before the week reset, and it's the only way to get the 80 I'm missing (bosses won't be enough unless I were to farm "base" bosses instead of nightmares)
Think we will get a new update teaser sometime soon? lol
Boss level doesn't matter when farming for gems, normal is often recommended due to key efficiency
a big thing is just book the good dmg talents that will add millions of dmg i started pushing world 5 at like 30 mil on es and ended up with like 50 mil by the end
oh i didnt even thought this would be good
stamps
ye, I meant as in I would need to do normal boss (which would be a waste as I would get nothing of value other than gems). If doing w4 colo I'll get the 80 gems I'll do that instead (I have 135 colo tickets). But not sure I can complete the colo in time, since my only strong char is SB.
(I had sent my idleon efficiency link before, if the context is useful)
For DK damage
- Levels and talents will likely be your biggest gains, getting up to ~225 and booking talents (Tab 3/4 talents 1 and 2 and T3t6) will provide massive increases
- Equipping a third food item will be useful, you've got some golden kebabs that will provide a bit of an increase
- Pushing for another megafish could be useful, as in the time you'll probably level another bonus or two which might be accuracy/damage
- Getting more salt levels will also contribute to the damage you get from your refinery talent
- Cooking - can throw some more levels at turkey and possibly unlock Octoplop
- Tome - as you gain more levels, some more challenges will unlock and give you more points, boosting the damage gain
I assume if you can one tap all the last W4 mobs then you should be okay to do it? SB aoe damage can be a bit wonky sometimes due to bomb rng, but could be worth a try
bruh imma be at rats so long. rip progress
finally ๐
can crystal farm w2/3 for them too
aww yiss, one more thing i can't make
same lol
don't lie. you can you just choose not to 2min claim

yeah cause 2min claim (like 2s spelunking) is not a real mechanic
y'all a bunch of bots
should i start farming card drop stuff before farming cards? like should i farm bullfrog card first?
2 min claims suck lol
How much damage is needed to kill world 5 with a BB?
kaito, any update on doot graphic?
he talked in endgame like 3 hours ago
attempt no. 2; @dapper prism (ace said you were active 3 hours ago so trying again)
edits re: the graphic after conferring w/ @bleak gazelle to help clarify some of the language a bit

