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Those lanterns are 1 in 50k right?
1/100k
40x drop rate kinda helps
Ill wait till 100x drop rate
ez
Another atom knocked out before Lava increases the cap via jade coins.
I would craft that bag but I want the gloves more
except that 1m godshard is ganna take me like a year
but how are your tower levels 
just realised all these moster material bags are ass to craft
How did people have godshard weapons like day 2 of W6?
You mean on release?
Prob 2 min claiming the portal kills 
ohh, forgot about construct mastery showing like that
True
bit better than mine 
That level 103 shrine 
gold bars 
then i have to swap ore
Real
I just dedicate my last 4 forge slots to void ore for refinery
And swap out for marble/gold/whatever else i need
If im running low
Which reminds me i think im out of void ore
I think I've got like 3 void, 1 iron, 2 marble, and the rest godshard.
Iron 
I ran out /feelsbad
Fair
I have no bars green stacked should I green stack them?
You can greenstack copper
Copper and iron first
Im going to greenstack copper to lustre i think
@strong shale way the cold from here?
YES
Come and get it
Its so hot here ๐ฆ like 32c
Can get to 50c here
is this the last map before i can finally beat the boss in W5?
yes last map
but do i need to kill the moles?
need keys from minboss
or can i enter directly
No
got 10
do you do the required dmage
maybe
its a yes or no question
Is it required to enter?
no but you wont kill the boss without the damage
yeah you can kill]
maybe cards can help you do some more damage but overall 30m is whats rec
i already am with dmg cards
todays haul, need 1 more string 6 more capes
dang look at you keeping up with tools
I guess it's finally time to eclipse ๐
this good?
that's probably as good as you'll get 
what is that prayer you have on
Also I'm so close to 10k it hurts
without it it is 29M
but i get to 8k per hour kills
without it it is 6k
i guess use to open portal then get rid of it
it's fine since he can't hit mk with or without it
it's not a bad prayer, contrary to what people say, it's just situational and most people don't want to check with it on and off
i only equip it to open last portal
Ace, worth trying to redo my waves? 254% atom currently
yeah, should be fine. how's your cannoli meal?
could definitely get higher on most/all of those
yeah, 121 should be easy for most of those
my td needs some work
wish i had takent a screenshot of my tower levels back then
Alright cool I'll give it a go then
Yeah I just remember you doing all your td a few weeks ago
Mine are all like 63-72 now minus void ofc
My salts were cooked so havent got void up yet
yeah, think i was high 50s/low 60s when i started them
i was at 228 atom, not sure what cannoli was, probably lower than yours
you could probably shoot for 150+ on most
can I just say - just because you don't have royal traps doesn't mean you can't use silk 1hr or 8hr.
Sweet, I'll go work on that then!
those 4 aren't the only options you should limit yourself to
Yeah I'll just go until I can't
Nothing else to do rn other then eclipse and farm crowns for rings
fire up the alt account 
i dont really need shiny
i need just quantity
I should probably replace my trap, didn't realize I could hourly click call me ash so I got an extra like 300% eff
traps***
the point still stands
there are other options when you don't have royal traps. its not an, i cna only set royal or nothing at all
yuge
i placed the wood quantity ones
hey, what was it that happens with sigils and cranium cooking?
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Trapping covers every trap w/ every option
sigils pause when CC is up?
but thats it right? so if i wanted, i could just put my dudes on sigils and just take the loss every time CC is up?
if you want to micromanage sigil/liquid cauldron, you could do that
for w5 pushing with dk do i upgrade stone wis or str?
I should probably finish farming 100k dumplings soon also
most likely wisdom. you'll want 81k accuracy for moles
this is a you question. do you still need accuracy? wis. if not, str
oh, someone told me not to upgrade cost in cauldron boost. is this valid advice?
they said it was due to being able to atom earlier
this is an later game min/max situation that changes the outcome maybe 1% of the time. don't worry about it
just max it
I'm looking at the tower defense guides, what do they mean by dps mode?
but my carpenter bubbles
ok cool, its nice dopamine anyway. thanks
is that just them referencing slow roast
typically for boss wave of 180+, once you get down to just the bosses, you swap builds so that you can kill it before the next wave fires off automatically
Ahhh, gotcha. I'm totally not doing that
getting close to printer 
just remember 2 things if you really awnt to save on materials when close to atom threshold:
- upgrading on an off-class for non-yellow bubbles will increase cost cost you won't benefit from the cost reduction of the color 15bubble.
- then additionally, once you get to like 80-90% of the cost being 100M while on an off-class, you can deactivate the lab node that doubles vials to reduce the cost reduction bonus from barley brew to bump it up to the 100M. upgrade/atom a few times. then reactivate it to lower cost back close to 100M and upgrade until the bubble would cost 100M on the correct class.
welcoem back to lab jail
just in time for me to finish farming a set of lab scrub shoes
i was gonna try to get some rings too, but i guess it's time 
Id recommend only making like 8, i made 10 and wasted so much time
Rings and shoes yep
They dont drop though? The shoes
but you gotta prepare for lab 3.0 grind 
Lab 3.0 grind is nothing trophy 
lul
ya, lab shoes from donuts :v
Oh i didnt know they dropped those
i just made the upgraded one
The afk gains at 37% 
it's atrocious
Click some cogs
already did
Level 200 cons yet?
almost

5% 
ace... you are palying too optimally. you need to have all 5 on the board and no one on cogs until someone tells you otherwise
you have to make cogs to progress the quest though 
besides i afked for 6 days, lost most of my gains due to running out of food and my anvil cap is like 220
and my water cap
like 13 
Edvin gets this at tremor wurms
i don't even know where to CC
Sheepies 
i'll die 
Sand giants!!!
naw, i did sandy pots
Or honestly sticks in w1
i think i did pots last time
sticks is terrible map cause of the huge gap in the middle
Ur a terrible map
my CC lasts for 17s guys
LMFAO
if you move your shrines around in the same map does it still reset the xp to level
like look at my aura
Max your alch box
If I get 1 divinity exp/hr and claim 30 minute afk and get off altar, will the count reset or will I get the exp after another 30 min of altar?
Thats huge
When i was a noob i was wondering how to get more than 1 aura like griffybit
ccing w/o poison is big sad

it's awful
Ace is spamming those potion throwables like a vman speedrun
i gotta search for the highest density on a single small platform
The timer would reset?
Red mushrooms maybe
yes, because you'll only gain xp when you claim afk gains
Dang alright thanks good to know
how do i get 150 flag score??
i shoulda never set my shrines up on the dock 
yo yuge gains ## cc alch alt
make sure you don't have the vman enhancement that forces mob spawns at 100 score
a) gotta kill quick
b) turn off vman enhancement
c) 1 point only in flag talent, max skull coin talent
not even 1 water
ah i havent maxed skull coin talent, dont have vman yet
was gonna time candy the slime kills
gmush?
ye
Got all kills in worlds 1-3 to purple skulls now
Ok one last question. If I got 2 exp/hr, will I get 1 exp after 30 minute claim?
most likely yes
so im guessing the 150 flag score is rng, i got to like 80 smth, 1 shot all the mobs so that's not a problem but then coins just stop dropping
bit of rng, bit of more levels in the coin talent for the buff to last longer
LOLOL
Imagine if u used on iron or gold ore
Youd be at lustre in no time
how do you dose the hunter for td is there late game enough reset potions to reset before every td or do you just max the rooting atk and skill active talents?
@strong shale working on world 4 kills now
just max root/kick on your skill preset. or whichever. you'll eventually get plenty of points to spare
i want cookie chip so bad i might gamba
candy and money
candy ๐ค
so when i stuck 6 chars in lab and have artifact and lab i just stick every shrine in w4 for leveling shrines?
pretty much yea


7 after a few hours
I've tried searching but cannot find if there is a tip on how to beat nightmare kattlekruk with a blood berserker, any tips or strategy out there? My berserk does 65bil base damage
prob more damage would help
there's a ๐ with a strat for VMan which should be similar for BB, but more damage would def help
brute force it is
kattlekruk is a dps check so give it a couple weeks
yeah
im seeing it
we are in the same boat my friend o7
idk you seem clueless compared to him
Me:
yeah nah, 37M dmg aint enough
what are talens
U need 150 m damage min
no you dont lmao
New rings might help
portal too high
Portal wouldnt matter for kruk lol
doesn't matter for the fight, just need more lightning and chainbolt though
149 unused points
Also you could link to nobisect with your 2nd link
For the minor bonus of total damage
Ooo
48 points left
Talents from Bear link almost certainly more damage for a boss fight than Nobisect
can throw them into symbols
symbols to 40, last 8 into w/e
Any suggestions for bb
oh, 1 point into polytheism for bear link
did it
have you done all your zows?
now this
Really eh?
Zow?
@rustic sundial
Zowzowzow
100k kills
Yes
Apocalypse Zow, barbarian talent
then mostly just comes down to other account bonuses for damage. farming is a nice one from crop discovery. gear will also start to become more useful, too
book talent 4
and this?
Here stat for bb
book
done
every 33 level is 1% damage increase
Oh._.
these things work hand and hand
i honestly think you can just auto it @rustic sundial
es abilities should hit moles regardless if close
Go try to just auto boss now
maybe i can do it
๐ค
Ez
1k more soul statues
idk if you botehred, but i made sure i got both mobs that drop w3 statues rubied when i farmed for them
ahh, i'll do the rest later when i actually want statue levels
I CAN DO IT
Much better
okay now get chiz helmet and chest for 1b
early welcome to w6
hmm you guys think this is a risky egg
who wouldve thought it would be this easy to get here
eggshell good?
Its goated
i havent even hit wave 50
Your looter procs the crit ability that the boneman has a couple times and then eggshell gives u block% whenever u hit a crit
And eventually ur looter just SPAMS the hell outta that
somtimes
so whats the setup with 4 slots ill try later today
ALMOOOOOOOOOOST

okay is statue farming with dk still okay without choco chip or its not even worth the time
GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Where is his rock
oh is the diamond
i tought it was a snowball lmao
it's about 4x as slow i believe
are you already at 10dr?
9 ish
should give it a try and see how much you get in ~20 minutes
compare it to when you get 10x and 10.51x 
ace out here recruiting people to do his testing for him
i mean, gonna be a while before i can test it 
Side effects may include but are not limited to, nausea, heart burn, headache, cancer, leprosy, loss of limb
i don't know if i'm 110% without the stupid ballot bonus. or if i still need to keep a small stack on people
It should be 110 regardless
Or over 100, alongside your alch bubble
And sailing box..
Who needs doot right? :^)
.__. your refinery is now way ahead of mine. i wonder why that is
i'm still doing 2100 grind. i wonder why that is
i wonder what the common denominator is in this unknown equation

im almost at 2100
i really wanted to be done w/ 2100 before today cause i gotta resample. but i'm going to be in awkward spot for next week since i'm not
145k more fire spirits before I reach the boss arena 
the siege breaker skills?
if it's active I imagine you want plunderous mobs to proc as much as you can kill them and the respawned mobs
I think the most important part is prolly having the siege breaker skills first and highest prio since they hit way harder than the archer ones
the arrow one is nice though
Also might wanna put the movement speed buff up front too
I've seen this one before
ignoring the funny chest
I don't think it's important as bubo since you'll probably get every skill off before the others are off cooldown
im assuming this is normal but without food my es has a MUCH lower survival rate than bb?
my bb was pushing w5 without needing food where as es is needing food almost right at the start of pushing
lack of hp probably
ok
Defense, too. Warriors Rule increases the value of FMJ for defense while active on a Warrior
are the yellow bubbles basically necessary to use discounts to upgrade because these prices are getting disgusting
atoms 
i need to work on my adams
i feel like getting all of w1-5 bubbles into atom range is like mid point of alchemy
isnt atom range 1b of an item
100M
what do you call being lazy and getting NBLB to do it for you? Asking for a friend
bad achemy
the slow roll to mid point
My meta strategy if i was a guide writer.
to answer your question though, yellow bubbles while generally more annoying to get into atom range - tend to also provide some of the better bonuses
yeah so I redid one tower defense and now I don't want to do anymore
so it is worth using your discount tag on it. once you start getting into deeper CC, you can use up to 3-5 sets of discount tags daily so it becomes a lot easier to level up the really annoying bubbles
WTB 1500 more CC bubble levels
You'll hit the 1b cost cap shortly after atom range anyway
I guess i can prob click my liquid cap soon
wtb fury relic
any suggestions
I would try to get tab 4
Your w5 and only 3 tabs 
normal
No it's not
hehehe should i got for w6 without page 4??
blue souls and blue salts? normal
Yeah w5 with only 3 tabs is v normal with the game's state
i didn't have tab 4 until after w5 and i was in the before time
but maybe i just hated TD
not like it matters cant even craft anything in anvil 4 besides the dna gun lmao
the only reason i dont have tab 4 is bc i havent upgraded my towers enouugh meaning my towers are too weak to defend
So your neglecting construction?
Eeeh. Much better stuff to rush than towers in w4/w5 tbh
Honestly good call. Meta strat is to ignore construction until your so far behind on it that it takes a month to catch back up
my poison tower been waiting on me to click upgrade for a month just taking up a build sllot for no reason
build speeds are so slow and salts are so scarce early on that I don't think you can gain that much by forcing higher towers for further TD early on
this man talkin like he wasn't salt lack earlier 
You know you can remove it from teh build slot and it'll stay 100% prepped right?
i do indeed
you finish your boss keys @cyan mantle
I need to gs dog bones
remake time
nah only the defend towers
im focussing on the top and bottom row
I try to forget about nullo for a month or two at a time. It was once said that you always need Nullos until suddenly you never need them again.
I just wanna make all my gear but i keep using nullo salt on bags and shit 
Should I do gs dog bones on es or dk?
Alright I got a q on pet spices since I'm pushing them. Is there a way to make shield auto cast if I start it on off by default?
es easier
u can only off/on before battle, so u manual 1st shield then auto nxt with monolith comp
so strat is to leave auto off for everything ot manual the first shield then turn auto on after first monolith?
I see. Was attempting that but was whiffing it bad. Oh well, now I will try super meta push ๐
pay for mine now too 
lets go
ggs
Time to get ancient pls
now time to save like 200 books
do i save the books or do i just gable
I'd gamble, esp if you're going to have ancient soon
Also do you ahve the 1K book w3 achievement yet?
thanks
guess i could wait for ancient
bruh, connection range is dumb
LOL
nice hat
Book aura/cc/tent/respawn now
lol. can't wait for mine to break like that
just taking DK out for minibosses
you know how nice it is to just roll up to the dungeon shop and buy 2 opals
and then not have to worry about stoning them?
HOW!
okay w2 and w3 now
Easy
Yea use them
Actually w2 might be hard
this is what happens with 2100 account lab levels and a bunch of other bonuses. but still the real issue is connection range to nodes
do i just start maining bubo now?
2100 O_O
actually, i'm up to 2333 now 
Jeez who has the most there!
currently active in this channel? probably me
I mean on the lab levels
Like his highest leveled character?
wonder if lab levels are on the leaderboard

Probably in the high 280s
I'm at like 1k lab do I win?
look, i'm right behind hugh 

Wow 265!
that's actually kind of impressive compared to my other levels
imagine what it would be if you stopped quitting for a year at a time in lab lol
nearly everything else is like rank 500-1200 
imagine how good my construction could have been if i afked after w3 came out
Real
imagine how good mine would be if i actually stopped sucking
Imagine how good mine would be if i 
Fishing bubbles
if you were a duck?
Bro thats spongebob
my only fishing bubble atm
Wow, I didnโt realize you got so much exp from the daily mini game skill things
I havent done a minigame in forever 
Make sure your mining is higher lvl
+2.46% pls
Guess I shoulda been doing those this whole time and not skipping em every day ๐ ๐
so much xp i bought all the increases....and never do them
I bought extra plays with gems too
I bought them cause I maxed out antifun so now I have 17 uses so I can use antifun on Vman for a smol exp buff
Prob pointless at higher levels but just got my mage 39-40 mining in like 2 minutes, that was nice
The only skill below 110 on my vman rn is fishing and that minigame is pain
Well i dont count trapping, nothing i can do about that
Drop some nature traps doi 
i was lol. but i was dumb and kept him on low critters with everyone else
Ah rip. My vman is actually no.1 for me
mines no1 still. but lower than it should be
But rest of my skills need work. He just finished 4*ing all the wood logs (I have avail) for me. Now he's moved onto mining. Hope I end up around ~100 in all of them when he finishes 4starring them all
What else my vman gonna do?
I should ruby all of easy resources for whatever the set gives but man
Ive just kept my vman skilling on w6 nodes and shit

I don't really have w6 nodes unlocked, so......
w1-5 farm for him
I should probably do that... you are onto something sire
Im now activing in poops for the small blue potions for w2 key quests
What is best class for running w4 colo for some eggs? Does it matter if I'm getting gold chests on every class?
Dk
W1-4 - DK
W5-6 - Bubo
Because mini boss spawns?
just get all ruby ez
Because orb
I never knew w5-w6 bubo but why?
Because no orb
DK Orb doesn't work in Colo 5 and 6 specifically, which is why Bubo instead
DK Orb does work in Colo 1 - 4
had no idea ๐ฎ
I dont think ive done any colo for 5 or 6 lol
How strong do my pets need to be to beat calamity clammies
they're plenty strong
bro you should be smoking that. mine were trash when i beat it.
Idk what setup i need then
just as FYI
Get a looter and 2nd refiller then follow this strat.
you can clear everything with those pets lol
Err idk what ring man does. You can prob do w/ what you got
God i feel so dumb
Nah I just literally 30mins ago got the spice battles going with the advertised strat
I only have 5 slots
Then go beat arena. You can easily 200 wave
Should i have two refills or one and a borger
This will carry you to at least 125. You can probably go to 200 since you have such high pet dmg

Also if that doesn't beat 200 for ya, use this to beat 200.
Think that setup with my pet dmg took me like 1.5-2hrs to get over 200?
God
Idk I started it during a 1hr work meeting, then drove to work after and I was at like wave 190.. checked like an hour later via remote desktop and was beyond wave 200. You should clear much faster with your big pet dmg
still no magma obol 
๐คท I've been stuck for a while but haven't put much effort until lately... literally only got to wave 50 for 5th slot like a few days ago
I'm just putting in a lot of effort for spices so I can have spices/meals ready for big chip run in a few months
I did it with 15k
Remote desktop?
I setup chrome remote desktop on my PC so I could remote into my desktop from my phone (at work) since I left pet battle up active on home PC.
How do I set up one?
My arena took me 10 hours
wtf 
Is like 2min effort lol
Great I'll check later when my computer is fixed
Mainly because my ass forgot to off badumdum again
Wait my time was leaving badududmdmudm on o.O
I forgot how much desync I had probably around 5 hours
Rip
I didn't follow the guide for 50 arena btw
I used rattler/forager/refiller/borger
Yeah ass but it works
still one map to go though 
we ball
you get the crowns so fast
i mean i still have more than 100m chiefs to kill
thats only like 2-3 days
@bleak gazelle done 2 more in world 4 now
yeah, think i saw you leaving town 
Was checking how many done on the tvs
God i wish i knew how strong looter was
oh hey, hit 500 on BB, now it's just vman 
I died at 113
Yeah I didn't understand until I started rolling through the arena
Rip. You need some luck with looter casting healing to keep you alive
I figured badumdum made it so fast it didn't matter
you can turn off borger to make refiller spam badumdum/looter faster
Kinda sucks I canโt even get on my game because I need to wait for the hour mark to get divinity exp
Why do people use goblin over the stick
I just have more genes on my goblin
Would that even matter I thought genes donโt equal pet power
it aint pretty but I got 6 new spices cooking in territories. Tomorrow I can make like a ton of new meals
Increases chances of stronger pet
then why does it matter goblin or stick? just need refiller
Gene simply increase next pet chance and shiny breed odds. has nothing to do with pet power
Iโve just seen people using more goblins maybe itโs better idk
Booo
Goblin is just the first refiller option. Stick comes later
So peeps prob have higher pet cap from breeding lvls + more rolls on a stick than goblin (at least that's my excuse)
I was building with Lego this morning
Why mono
No blooming axe?
Idk i thought it was the meta
I really donโt know what Iโm doing
Pretty sure I used rattler comp
Itโs like lvl 3 or something
Looter/Rattler/Badumdum/Refiller/Borger
Just use Borger
For the longest i tried rattler/mono/refill/defend/refill or borgor
Did not work out
No badumdum is the issue
Defender is for 6 slot comps
U need 6 slot
Guess ill try again in 22 hrs
Bro forgot bm existed
My time just ran out bc the run took too long
As always, you shouldn't have brought mono
Anyways gotta wait ig

Why is the talent guide telling me to upgrade wisdom upgrades instead of the sailing talents?
@frank prairie w2 keys done
Where do you think its telling you to upgrade wisdom?
Not wisdom itself, I just grouped the talent with the net and the one with the shoe into one general โwisdom talentsโ because they both involve wisdom
Nvm thatโs agility lol
Question still stands tho
none of the talents shown has anything to do with WIS
Yeah sorry I meant agility
meta comp current uses 2 SB - in a budgeted talent economy, you designate the secondary SB to hold your sailing talents while primary SB maximizes efficiency for prints
that's why sailing is low priority when strictly considering skilling + prints
if you don't have that luxury, its best to utilize talent resets whenever you need to sample
Oh ok I see now. So I only have a second dk atm. Should I upgrade the strength mining talents on first dk and gaming talents on second?
yes, you can do a similar thing with a 2 DK setup as well as for a 2 ES setup. designate one to be the talent holder for the account wide talents as you cannot double up on them, and then the other can use their talent points freely
once you get to a point wehre you ahve more talent points generally through levels and alchemy, this is less of an issue as you end up simply maxing everythign across the board but it is something you do until you can reach that point
Awesome! That helps a lot thanks
wonder when he realises w3 is giant mobs

Should I try to push for w6 or chill in w5 for a bit?
do you do enough damage
--- yes --> w6
--- no ---> get more damage ----> w6
How much dmg is enough dmg?
Ah, thank you
is this a SS of the image? kek
yes it wouldnt copy
my yellow essense is already cooking
there we go we got a high roll
Hell yeah
Green is so dog shit for no reason until u get a higher level
Yellow with the hp multiplier is nice
136-->172
Bloomy mana regen 
176
why 176 
Whats your symbols at
did you not max merit or salt lick?
Probs salt lick
Youd be like 1 level off
dont need rift slug if you just get that
Well no
rift slug on top of the other things
180 symbols gets it to 191 and 8 more is 199
when reaper finishes the challenge i gave him ill roll pets
you linked to arctis?
Looks like it
no i am linked to goat
Oh link to bear
also wdym rift slug and other things, its just other things or rift slug

So close
just max the talent and upgrade symbols to 140 
Use your killroy skulls
need books. I could do the killroy yeah
For books!
will do in a little
i only have 2
man, you have just enough to get to 200 if you get salt lick, booked symbols
Nah more than 200 now
symbols only gives 3 more, if salt licked is maxed thats only 4 more. 201. am i missing something?
i have 1 mage 1 warrior rn 
Symbols technically 4
no books
And arctis
how is symbols 4?
Salt lick -> 180
100 -> 160 is only 3
Did u forget the 180 max :p
dont even need salt lick, 176 is there max book apparently
172 + 4 from salt lick = 176
so even just salt lick would be enough
Gamba 
yall book gamblers instead of saving 20
Yea but he's missing salts
im assuming no auto arm or smth
No his 0 to 20 books is lke 4 days
depends on the talent 
oh, that sucks
it only works for that ES
it says given
Should i use SB or BM for killroy?
there's a reason why at the bottom, ES has diff max potential
bm mostly
this is what im getting
Are samplrs for catching generally a lot smaller than mining or chopping?
Same thing
So close to done with work, so ready to make more gains :S
This work shit is for the birds man ๐
who do i use to kill nightmare katlekruk ?
DK might have enough damage for it?
congrats
es?
lets say hes been chopping wood 2 updates ago
considering bubo cuz tenteycle at lvl 200
tenteye wont do much for n kruk anyways, dk just better
ight
Lmao I was 81 damage short on 5 skulls ๐ฌ
My last lantern copper chest was ~0.02
I finished 2100 lab grind now I dontk now what to do next
I'm almost done finishing the key quests I'm doing w3 now
But I'm stuck on the giants quest
I'm close to being done slowly 
This island has taken me the most time.. ๐ฆ
@terse verge thought it would take me 2 weeks min to get kills in all worlds to purple skull but already done worlds 1-3 and half done world 4 now
Just started sailing.should I continue to find artifacts on the first island or should I move onto island 2
I got 2 artifacts so far
i would at least get the tusk, but all 4 of the first ones are pretty good
moles' health don't scale with kattlekruk difficulty, right?
It's probably advisable to get all artifacts but you can probably skip to next island if you miss the PO box artifacts
Since getting to w5 now is so fast that you probably don't even have second page of PO box unlocked
I donโt even have the 5th order tab yet๐ญ
Unlock the crystal shrine and stack crystal mob chance on your ES I guess, then spam pens. That's what I'm currently doing now since I don't have 6th order unlocked yet
I thought pens only allowed you to refresh an order?
Huh I never knew that
Now you know
I got w5 today so po is pretty low on my priority list, but Iโll get to it eventually
there we go just got this to speed up my books
Get the maoi head artifact and put all your shrines to w5 town then all charas to worship until you unlock bear is probably the best action to take then
Early w5 is so slow unless you get good rng
Yeah thatโs what Iโm doing rn. Does div points go up with each divinity level?
Not with level
Really annoying to have to wait until the hour ends to get my 1 exp and point
You can put skill exp gain cards for div exp, and also biggie hours card for double afk gains
That really helped me early
What cards are skill exp gain?
Most of the skill exp cards Iโve seen say something like โfishing exp gainโ
The only card I have that works for all skills is amarok and Iโm told it doesnโt work with div
Time to kill chaotic effaunt
My hard resource cards are so bad rn since I pretty much only printed resources by the time I got to w3
I donโt think I even have the set bonus
can you rerol trapping obol for higher trapping power? or do you just get stats

finally home from work, time to start cooking ๐
Who knew getting chows sped up cooking so much
When you can do a chow in 1-4h
After you get nobisect god to double your kills
My progression was: all to divinity > unlock bear > enough bear to double kill in lab > unlock nobisect > BB and maestro to nobisect to start chowing and 12m gmush for vman
So at least 250k kph, thatโs prob still awhile away from me
I personally think best course of action is get all 10 char in w5
I started chowing at 50k kills per hour. Once you have nobisect it's probably fine
I'm in mid w5 and I only have 8 charas 
you cray using all those candies at gmush lol
Hey man I have 300m kills on gmush because of those candies
fair lol

You only need 12m to get vman
Also idk if you saw I got fury
yoooooooooo!! gzzzz ๐
Das crazy
come to wurms with me ๐
And getting vman speeds up so many other things so try to get it soon after you unlock nobisect
If I can 20 book it I 100% get
W5 seems so intimidating
3 more hours of active ES for vman for me 
Yeah then you get to w6 and you canโt progress in the skills
Bloodbones is pain when my ES only has 21m max damage for 1 tier multikill
ayy, on another keymaster, finally almost to another zone. idle skilling so fucking slow l0l
w5 aint bad
Es portal kills make it faster
I was getting 25k an hour at the time and did it in 4h
es portals mobs dosent count towards deathnote or portal kills iirc
they dont
They respawn mobs though
tru
this is fact
That respawn makes it zoom
In w4, I just had to put all except one in lab and push. In w5, I gotta do vman, set up BB for cooking, set up bubo for cc?, rift, equinox, farm obols and cards, get onyx statues, and farm pens for post
World 4 is the world you just ignore and come back to lmao
honestly kinda tru lol
Should I grab every ender captain I see due to the passive bonuses? One came up with an okay artifact find chance and cloud discovery speed, which is useless to me at this juncture, so I'm not sure if I should skip or not.
or gamba? 
I think i need a salt luck upgrade so i guess i wait for now
i believe thats the consensus
or or rift slug gamble
yes grab every one
Okay, good to hear. I've got a green guy with pretty bad bonuses so it's not going to be too painful to replace him.
also got sov meal level artifact finally, 3 more sovs left 
Thanks, both of you!
also you were right @strong shale this shit busted
better than this fake 7% it says
were pretty close in damage lol
lol
its the wings
Mine is 187 and I used a book on it
why?
you dont use staff until godshard, stingers all the way until then for aura placement
godshard only staff with small enough range to be worth using
no
I'm suck on w3 ones now 
The giant quest is a dick
Also I don't want the "Prize" anymore from it because me doing this helps my account
uhhh
Nice
big
i have also sped up the book thing
nice
with the 40% checkout speed
max book your fuckin thing
By the way Edvin I finally claimed w1 keys after the 145 days
only if the world 3 one wasnt 78 purple cogs
so does level 200 tenticle give you 3s instead of 2
W1-w3 key quests
hmm if i can get enough blue salts i can get 180 and get it tomorrow
I'm getting 5k kills an hour for afk so it's taking me about a day. Just 1-2 more hours to 1mil for vman
but i think even with 178 i can get
Edvin you know that wave 50 w5 td setup you showed me what level does lighting have to be
wait i can get with 175 i think
was i even using lightning?
i did everything with very low level towers
lol
@cyan mantle I have gotten all kills for worlds 1-3 now to purple skulls

gonna have so many attempts when i wake up lol, if i dont get at least 1 bubble im gonna be sad
o.o
you almost done with purps?
oh i guess i could just look at the cost, nvm l0
is there anything that helps with forge capacity? got the upgrades from the forge, 16k aint cutting it
I just got this artefact but it doesnt seem to have changed how much xp and or points im getting per hour, is there a reason?
Walk out of map and come backj
I had to close my game for it to work it seems, thankyou
didnt have to close game you couldve went to w4 and came back
I Decided to gamble and we fucking hit big @grand scarab @strong shale
this is why we keep gambling in life
ayyyyyyyyyy
there are winners and there are quitters
gamba good 
doot roll time?
i used 50 keys and got like 100 golden hamsters so
ayyy, over 1k, im starting to really cook now
at least you know exactly how many you gotta pull worst case scenario
thats sick, time to start CCing
can you survive wurms now?
damn, your defence is way low, that might be an issue but im not 100% sure
How do I get my other characters to shimmer island?
? move em there
thats def closer, im at 4090 rn
I have to get fishing that high to get them there?
yeah, 30
gholy ahuitr
crazy how i got it and then get rift slug right after ...
shit its a rift slug
yeah but the hype of the gamble simmered down
Time to steal all your materials in game now @strong shale
chill bro that slug is huge for your alch gains
+25 to tent, aura, cc, brew speed, alch exp for others
giants are spoiling me https://i.imgur.com/KuRgnC4.png
Will steal them all @strong shale
i can gib some
Why do you have 65 unopened guild gifts
rainy day
cuz i dont open them weekly
doesnt even open them monthly
From the looks of it you havent opened them in nearly 3 months 
oh you havent seen the time where i have 200 in my storage lol

do you have to manual these pet battles





