#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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i may have crafted too many food bags tbh 
nothing in anvil 4 is easy
Trust lol
okay sorry nothing besides this
this is easy, but the same tab one before it has 1k green salts
https://i.imgur.com/zyJvDeF.png
compared to tab 5, tab 4 is like tab 8
my fav stuff are being redsaltlocked and greensaltlocked
my greensalt issues are gone now, now im desperate for grey salts...
i can craft this
yea thats good
its so cheap
its a joke lol
yeah im hording bro not wasting green salts on bags
real one
Just took allot,of rings and like out of storage and put on my eb has storage was full
Level 350 required 
i crafted it for everyone, now just chilling in some inventorys
Meant sb
Should I do that on main?
nooo not yet
you gotta get damage up on main by alot
Why? W1 monsters not hurt my main
for more multikill and kills
you are not ready for eclipse skulls 
ayy, sub 10 min cycles 😄
you can get like 50b damage minimum to make your life easier
50b for eclipse? thats very low
more like 2.5 if u have kitsune
thats with kitsune on lol
pretty sure its not
Main does 359-494m in world 6
oh it rly is
forgot the min
Bad bad bad @grand scarab
😦
i didnt think lava would calculate with it mb 😔
my SB damage yesterday 
dont steal my stuff @pastel kayak
thats so stupid
my alt that sits in lab
Time tos trap all materials in game from @strong shale now
@strong shale do I need to change gear on main?
we are not casuals lol we just havent played long enough
i have like 700t on sb and i dont think its reasonable for me to do them fast yet
guys btw u can change presets anywhere now if u didnt know :D
any guesses?
kebabs
jam
jam 100%
nope! you are good
I knew 

aw damn
😦
bro i swear i was saying this
lol
mm please more sammich
it was so unexpected when i randomly tried it and worked
Yeah that's how I found out 
gonna greenstack this shit some day 
lmao
same, i did like a month or 2 ago and was shocked
Your too dedicated 
thats insane rofl
getting some w1 shit done rn actually
could save a town tp if i wouldnt tp to town anyways
I'm a greenstack maniac 
how many are you at? 250?
240 
casual 
i know 
i need to start swiping more or something :/

lol
yall think we get new chars when new subclasses come out?
timeskip irl for a year or two
yeah id say so
Stealing in game is my thing bad @grand scarab
😔
😦
same
so sad
the one upside of me neglecting all my last chars lol. my second ES can still get all those quests
😭
Damn it man
hey at least scoli is happy
You have stopped yourself from getting every greenstack 
until new character slots come at least
the keys are flying in now D:
now just need more DR to actually farm the boss lol
Not even solid w8 prep 
why so weak...
💀
idk what to do with my keys now that bosses don't give unlimited gems 💀
With me cause I have learning problems is why my account was very very very bad
give some for the people, do some charity 
would if I could
why not greenstack them

Greenstack them 
now we're talking
lmao
Reaper the goat
You beat me to it 
doing this first though
Ima kill tokito 
hate farming that
Greenstack lanterns 
For vman I need to get 1m kills on bloodbones as well right?
no, 100k for vman weapon
||hes already dead wdym||
Shhh no spoilers
All monsters worlds 1-3
Oof I don't have a single chara who can multikill bloodbones, this is going to be painful
why do you think i spoilered it
put everyone there 🔥
its overall 1m kill and not per char
maybe you not ready yet then
I'll just active ES. The rest are in lab or pushing other w123 mobs
I did 2-3 per level to get the kills up
My ES max damage is 14m so I can active them, I just don't have any major upgrades coming to push to 20m to multikill
this is so weird to see ngl
what is
what a speedrun
99.1 instead of 100
idk why i couldnt get a good print on this though
did u have the active talent passive
yeah im 90% sure i used it at there
did you not sample with void radius on or smth?
initinally i wasnt planning on going far into the speedrun
also did u equip your afk gain cape
holy fuck i got ben and jerrys ice cream i need to get
i forgot i bought it like 4 days ago
i still got 3 more vials that should be vman doable, but i dont want to speedrun
okay what do i upgrade
candy them 
upgrade that pearl vial 
i just spent 1k hours of candy i dont want to spend more 
no
my precious pearls
yes 
Only if you could print rare drops
book your bottom row
rather get starfire tools on everyone
do both?
too long
..
😭
I printed them ores
i dont need the ores i need xp :D
im not quite there where i'd smelt godshard in high quantities
all this for some skill xp?
at most ill do 80 so everyone gets marble pickaxe
doesnt seem very soon to me
let me see how much candy it takes me for vman 100 one sec
its just 15 levels per char 😔
yea but scaling
just candy it eventually
fish :D
this really doesnt seem worth for you... is your vman even #1 anymore?
not quite

i have 4k hours of candies almost tho
its slowing down everyone elses xp farming, get him #1
fuck idk where you redeem it l0l
gotta roll for doot now
lol, ye
i have a whole 6$ on steam 
ill throw the other 40$ at it for the 4100 pack after i get paid friday
I shall now try to get to wave 50 on w5 td once more 
you missed it
use the strat i gave you
No 
i already got 6$ from a green m&m so im fine 
I got the goat pancake the person who has made all the td guides to find me this 
The myth the legend helped me 
i hope you walk into the portal trying to upgrade poison 
exactly, you need to at some point 
i'd literally spam d while standing on the other half of the map while trying to upgrade 
Seems like the reasonable thing to do
What kinda detection rate do you guys shoot for before you move up a floor?
~20-25
Below 50 is what I usually aim for, also depends on the charms and stuff on the floor
yea
like would the next floor be worth a day or 2 if its for a good upgrade
cause u gotta remember that the floor above it youll have an even worse detection rate
I'll sometimes even go to a floor with high detection rate if it has a usefull charm/gold charm/gemstone on it
My Biceps hurt so bad man
Damn
What should I put on minimum chest?
maybe i give these away 1 day
yeah, i just knocked a new door down and moved up but im at like 40% detection rate, thinking it might be a bit too high rn 😦
leave it on wood unless you barely check
gotta get the bombs on everyone
@frank prairie where is the td thing you showed me Mr Pancakes one don't work
maybe have to go back and get higher level bombs
is this goodd enough for first vman run? or what should i lvl up?
first 4 is good for first run i think maybe also 1 in talent 14
4 doesn't really do much unless you dont one shot
But yea try to lvl 1, 2 and 3, that should be fine for first run tho
do i skip bosses since 3rd is super low lvld?
No they still give portals
Kill nightmare for +3 portals
Assuming you can 1 shot ofc
the 1% thingy ?
Yeah
yeah it will be 40k div pts for 100%
Yeah, it’ll be the same amount of points, just don’t have to worry about rng
I’m chipping away at my 100% flutterbis rn x.x
after the goat i can finally rest and just grind peacefully, because all my char are in 2 prison at the same time, X2 happy
yes
@cyan mantle u here?
just wanna tell you that the race is over before we started
its gonna take me a month for sov fury now
Why?
do i have to do speedrun on my 2 loadouts seperately on vman? waduhek
what race were you having?
nope, just put 1 point in speedrun on 2nd set and you get the points
just discovered xD would've been willllllld
nine char? SB? BB? ES?
He set it up it was whoever got sovereign fury first
Dont do BB.
what should i lvl for my skilling set
ES/SB
From someone with 2 BB, just dont do that.
oh damn, you even have eld yet?
es then sb
Okay, any particular reason why?
everyone with 2bb just agrees that it sucks 
With the es to sb
es for 2x god link, and more atoms, and sb helps a lot later on for bars
and there just isnt better 2nd options
I got doot not too long ago, but es is still better?
Es or bubo are pretty equal if dooted.
Bubo is normally active no?
resample day tmrw.
No wait who ever got eldritch first
so you already lost then 
Bro I legit said being dooted doesn’t matter 😂
ES or SB regardless
when 
Considering i don't need the 2 gods
At this point, up to you. It’s honestly a toss up
gen chat 
Probably should have been more clear
That’s where he asked
Ello gapple 👋
No worries mate. Just decide on what you want to focus and go with that. Considering everyone’s suggestions ofc
Sup fam💪
Considering sailing doesnt get boosted by 2nd sb, where worship gets boosted by second es, i might just go that. Also if i want to atom soon. (which i am no where near)
You will be if you start sampling oak w your new ES
My oak print right now is 300k, which is like 1.8 mil effectively
Is that good enough?
I didn’t start Atom until I found out even tho atom off it still procs every hour
Efficiency you mean? Honestly don’t know where you’re standing but from the looks of it (considering you still haven’t all your 10 characters) your print and efficiency is good enough for where I’m assuming you’re at
1.8 mil effectively (6x prints)
Ah
Mmmm no then that’s not good 😅 but as I said, you’ve still some catching up to do
I’d like to take a look at your IE at some point but tbh rn imma sleep
Cuz 4am and I open today 💀
Welp, go sleep man!
Also, thanks for the help. Right now im just in dying need of liquid (can press every bubble multiple times with ressources but no water), and welp... gotta take an hour or 2 for stamps upgrades
Hey guys, got a question. Just unlocked the first god in divinity, and I just can’t seem to find a way to see the bonus description on mobile. I don’t know if it’s me clicking on the god the wrong way, or if there’s a bug for mobile. Any help is appreciated!
Considering I’ve had substance abuse problems in the past. I think I’d rather sleep now than stay awake for days on end doing nothing important and withering away slowly
Ah ok sorry
Nah man is all good lmao
Is there any reason why this wouldn't work if you're 1st in that skill? Or does the buff not show up in afk info?
💀
He floatin
if it aint 0 its 100%
It's only 100% when trying to break doors / untie.
nah always 100%
hmmm anyone need ladles
I'll take 30k 
Lemme get uhhhhh... three fiddy
Not even 1m.
Green stack them
Do you even have 1m ladles?
Is the log game in gaming rigged like the arcade red dice?
Aka the visuals are just for the sake of it, otherwise pure rng?
You make a good point
I fucked up the first one despite seeing exactly where the skull would be, even clipped it after to make sure I wasn't hallucinating.
Yea its just rng
Amazing. Truly incredible. Thank you lava, very cool.
Yes, i have 1.09m atm. I am allowed to pinchy this.
No greenstack?
1/10 of the way there.
Unrelated but what's the best way to go about getting new pets in breeding? I've been trying to make my way through W2 and it's really pissing me off, since I kinda need it for better spices/arena.
hi reaper
past pres multi is big for w2
Cooking is huge
The best splicing map is unintuitively enough sand giants
Past pres?
I just spam badic egg, get breedability trait, wait for it too get good while getting better eggs, then try to get it
And upgrading dna ofc
last upgrade on the first row of upgrades in breeding
Upgrade that multiples chance of next pet based on amount of petd in previous world
Ok I just threw some ladles to unlock that recipe, now the problem is being out of DNA since I kinda threw a lot at "reduce gene boost cost".
Damn, y'all really wasn't lying.
Ello
Is no more praying actually worth?
Not at all
Scam
i got eldritch fury >:)
So we whaled 
Tropilogs were useless outside of gstack iirc, right?
the fuck?
I know blue is from lab and purple spiral is from divinity. The hell is the star from?
purple is lab+bunny, so yellow is only divinity i assume
Just divinity
Ofc you only assume you doot haver 
sorry sorry sorry
oh my lab fucked up, i don't have arctis on the skilling loadout

i didnt get to experiment that
!merit5
1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.
Any suggestions for getting the nutto pet? odds are at like 1/120, breedabity is 3.5x and DNA is at 10x, no other mods I can stack on it
more dna, then pray
at leats thats what i did
or try stacking up higher rarity eggs
How do I es farm
Do all ES go on goat and rabbit for skilling?
Who is dis dood
78 book
Im working on it
But how do I es farm for green stacks he is lv 102
You click auto and wait.
Then dont ig

It’s that simple?
Well yea
yk i had a stroke seeing this guys ie yesterday
78 book?did dis dood buy checkout from killroy
Im speaking facts of how shit is your account now, but i do trust you
https://bartek_smartek.idleonefficiency.com/
@dreamy merlin look at your own risk
I dont wanna
Bro it’s not like he’s gonna die
not a big deal tbh just the 78 library books hallucinated me
What’s wrong with 78 books
I mean I just simply don't want to look at ie rn
Means your ignoring them a lot
Do they generate slower the more I have
yes
And anyway I try checkout but it says I can’t
Some talents cant be booked
he probably tried to book str talent
told ya
my sweet summer child you cant book this talent
I was born in December
I just said some cant be booked, look at other talents
The main stats can't be booked
I bought all the books for warriors
Then why can’t I upgrade meat shank
The main rule is, if another talent buffs its max lvl, it can't be booked
So you instead have to book the talent that buffs its lvl
Ok bye i will es farm now

I genuinely despise how forgetting even 1 single thing fucks up your samples so much.
https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ for a start. Then ask about what you're struggling with. 
I'm using it but it doesnt cover everything
Efficiency wont help my skilling xp/hr after having 100% chance to succeed right?
Well what are you struggling with?
Yeah, you just get more resources.
I'm not struggling with anything, I just need general directions/what to focus on. I'm currently working on vman, should have it in 2-3 days. I'm thinking of putting everyone back in Divinity while I work on vman then because I only have 3 gods unlocked
Should I do that? And leave them all in Div until Goharut unlocked
It’s my last DR obol I need .. am I doing smt wrong ? I’ve tried to merge it almost 30 times the past two days
Div until goat is a good idea but trying to get vman at the same time is gonna be slower than usual. (assuming you need more than just gmush)
Give me a minute, I'll look over your stuff in a few.
I'll do vman first, then put everyone in div
Also, I've been pushing w5 and I'm close to unlocking mole map. How much damage is needed for kruk? I don't think I can beat him yet so I need a few more sources of damage
-Your samples are a mess for the point you're at in the game. Take some time to do a proper sampling setup session since you're denying yourself a lot of materials.
-Your last 3 characters should get started with worship and the minimum skilling to get some samples.
-Your cooking is quite behind for how many spices you have unlocked. Take some time to unlock recipes and get everything to lvl 11. (Octopus % dmg)
-Your lab is very behind, try to at least make it to the final node since it will make connections easier. (after divinity)
-Your spice setup need some work now that you have bloom axe. (picture below)
-Try working on your rift at least up to lvl 16 so you unlock skill mastery. (especially since it will help vman)
-Put everyone except 1 in divinity with Focus style until you get goat, then put them in lab.
-Half your boats are sailing to islands way above their paygrade, adjust accordingly. Also don't ignore the loot upgrade on the boats, since you seem to only exclusively upgrade speed. (pic below)
-Try getting the hippo artifact from island 3 for the dmg boost.
-You have a lot of constellations in W1-W3 (and a few in W4) that you could get easily and reach the 6% and 20% dmg buffs in Hydron.
-Try to slowly inch closer to 1000 items in slab.
-Farm gigafrog and moustache cards -> farm mimic, bop boxes, thermister cards, doot cards.
how do u do equinox zow?
Dont remember who asked but someone did at some point about how much more cook speed i ould get if i respecced and maxed it
Sit in there, There is a invisible one and just kill it
hmm if i auto i go and do skilling tho
You can't afk I equinox
where in eqi does it spawn?]
Stand on top right platform and throw axe to the right
Can someone explain how the breeding multi works? You just put heart pets in the fence and then something happens.
yes it give a multi look at pet multi
wait for abit tho it takes awhile
The pets will gain breedability over time. This increases your next pet odds. It isn’t anything overly complicated. You cant notice it with early gaming - but by time i was on final w4 pet - when i filled my fence yard with pet - i could visibly see pet odds increase in real time
btw for maps like roots in w1 u can schow it but i cant eclipse it?
To those of you with doot, do you bother skilling ever? or do you just sample and 3d print everything
u still wanna lv skillings for better gear
yeah other than for gear
There would be no point to eclipseing it because it doesnt have its own DN line. Schow is just unique causes its about single char kill count which isnt tracked by DN
skill mastery
thnx just making sure xD
You can do it if you are really insane though 
and no eclipse skull dmg no thnx lol
Can flex on the rest of us
I want to farm ore cards. I have drop chance and card chance equip. Does it works afk?
Is it permanent? Or does it decrease if you fail a new pet attempt? (or anything along those lines)
snapshot? no
Permanent. It also counts to increase your shiny pet odds once you unlock those
Hmm okey thanks
@near wolf one caveat to wisp’s answer. You can snapshot cdr - if you candy skill nodes
time to do roots 
thats too high level I dont understand xd
You put on card drop cards when you enter the map with the skill node you want, swap to skilling cards and then use candy.
Oh I see thanks guys
For instance, you want to use vman to get your early resources node cards to at least 4*. A lot of folks will use candy to speed this process up. So either enter map/reload map with cdr setup. Swap to dr setup. Then candy nodes. Rinse repeat
Thanks! I was aware of some of these but definitely not most of these. I'll work on them
ah thats why i didnt understand it at first. I didnt unlock vman xd. But thanks I will keep it in mind
I really should start candying some skill cards now that you mention it...
It doesnt have to be vman. All the necessary dr talents you will have even as mman
Btw kaito, is there anything that could cause this to not work if your vman is in the first place? Or does the increase not show up in afk info?
If you arent #1 in that particular skill, maybe?
I am.
Any particular setup to have these for auto active drops on divine knight? Or doesn't matter
I don't think they matter for afk as long as they're on the bar.
which skill are you attempting to test re: left hand?
Catching.
it should be fine. i can go test it on my vman if you are having an odd issue
I was candying when I went from R2 to R1 and the xp hardly even moved in afk info, even after reloading the map.
realize that its not that crazy of a bonus. what is your catching xp multi?
122% xp doubled to 244% for vman? I feel like I should've seen a spike.
that's only if you have no other multi's of that same category so it exists purely as a multiplicative bonus. but xp is lumped in w/ lot of other bonuses additively so that's why i ask about your skill xp
Movement queuing. If you can spam the others off cooldown, then you're just slowing down by having to also cast the basic warrior ones.
i can go test on my vman rq give me a sec
Controversially, is it a problem that I'm skilling on whatever gives the most xp, even if I don't have 100 efficiency in it? (without transfusion)
if i want to quickly level div would mantra on everyone be better or focus
left image is 0 pts in left hand 0 pts in enhancement / right is full left hand full enhancement
Depends what for. If you don't have goat, you should probably stick to focus. Past goat, you can try working towards vitalic/tranqi/zen.
my left hand level
so you see that it does increase but it will be diluted by bonuses from other sources
yeah i have the goat now i just wanted to get vman and bb that i was pushing portals with to get some xp(lv25 for the pig quest)
How many suggma kills did i take yall to drop the knukkle recipe ?
1b still none
I have ___ kills on Suggmas. Why haven't I gotten the recipe yet?
Understand that DN count includes MK, KPK, and other multis which aren't accounted for when you go for loot. Loot is based on base kills so you have to factor all those out. Generally, a good comparison is to look at the number of Royal Urn drops you have. On average, most get it around 1K urns collected (or roughly 1B DN kills if you insist on using this count as a measure).
Ngl I never actually checked the skill tab, I was focused on afk info. Sitting on 12x rn.
Also wow you had this shit on speed dial lmao.
Remember that bonuses often go into "pools" of similar type bonuses - particularly dmg and xp, as these are very common bonuses. so the more you get of them, the less power they have individually
i have a "faq" section in my personal notes of my idleon to-do list. i'm lazy and i'd rather not re-type out answers to really common questions so i just copy/pasta my own responses
for those that aren't easily answered in text form - i might consider making a graphic for instead and just bam copy/pasta an image instead
got a 1% elephant by accident just now too nice
You could ask the mods to add them to ! commands.
naw - some of them are my personal opinions which aren't really suited for a pin
So far they were all pretty spot on. 
if you are looking at an xp bonus, it is better to look at the xp multi rather than the actual xp you are getting in the AFK window because that value is also affected by your AFK gains %. a lot of times, the AFK gains % might be a stronger factor so another reason why the increase you saw might have been further diluted
Is lab total level ultimate goal 2100? What build do people use to get there and how long does that generally take?
a butt ton of skill eff and afk 
I see
I have around a 100 levels left before I’m finished. If you don’t have doot with 9 dedicated in lab - it takes around 3 weeks. Doot can lower that to around 2 weeks
Any advice for getting over 200 ladles/day? have chowed all of w1/2/3 and have stamp as high as i can afford and good afk gains
how many laddle does that give you ?
get more efficiency
Thanks. This is very helpful.
cooking laddle is basically lv ur laddle stamp and multi tooll stamp to lv200 min
ladle*
it aint pronounced like saddle fyi
How do you pronounce lad or is it spelled ladd?
this is how you spell it
it's pronounced lay-del
So you would pronounce this Lucky Lay-d under the same reasons?
I just think the English language is so funny and unintuitive.
Seriously. Why do we have letter combinations that are not pronounced the same?
Tomb, comb, and bomb. Three different pronunciations for 1/4 letters changed. But I digress. This is not relevant to idleon.
Any tips for pushing with bubo? His dmg sucks balls and I'm nowhere near to 200 tentacleye.
What if Lava actually pronounces it Id-Leon 🤔
no following letter after the d, so no
Does anyone have basic tips on what to upgrade in gaming, im stuck at about 1m green per day, and ive been stuck there for the longest time
Can I borrow some green bits? 
Alchemy
as many as you want
240 at most 
send a screenshot
im saving for spice is nice at the moment, its hell
I don't think alchemy alone should be able to help.
Starting to get close to having all my characters being able to access Kruk at least.
What are you pushing with bubo?
Got 5 characters at Fire Spirits, 2 at Lampers and the rest already at and beyond Kattle...
remove royale sampler bro, its gonna take you forever to level
Any advice on Kattlekruk for a Blood Berserker? Currently doing 25m min damage but can’t get anywhere near beating it.
Ideally W5 so he can reach the end but W4 is also going kinda slow.
Do u guys use Roxie? I think it is only for active but maybe I am wrong.
Roxie only if you are active to pay attention to it, yes.
BB is one of the harder classes to beat Kruk. Prob better off swapping to a meta class for Kruk if you wanna get it done faster
only good if you check on the game a lot
Youre right, i dont
Okey thanks
Shit. All my other characters are WAY behind 😄
Nah, sampler stays on. Levels are hardly an issue.
Good thing is the two "preferred" classes are DK or ES. ES will scale with stamps and as you gain lvls pushing w5, DK you can swap all gear to... just gotta make sure accuracy stays 1.5x higher than req
Also, more money!
Check pins (Ib elieve?) for a quick breakdown on Kruk vs. classes
Actually at higher levels of a gaming, it's best to keep Roxy on at all times because you'll get more bits that way. General rule of thumb is if you can get your growth rate up under 5 minutes with Roxy.
Why don't you put bubo in w6 for faster exp? Or are you trying to get through W5 to prep for active CC since you don't have 200 tent yet?
Thanks
You have access to w6. You shouldn't really be pushing old chars through old worlds unless you're trying to unlock bosses, resource maps for sampling, etc.
Whatever you say bro, also, use more cards and use upgrade stones on tools
This is bad advice. Royal sampler isn't a multiplicative / total % exp reduction. So if you have 5.5x class exp and his royal sampler is lvl5 (-42% all exp gain), he is at 5.08x class exp
Trying to push to slowly prepare for CC eventually. As for W6, not even my ES/DK can keep up properly in the first map.
shit,sorry youre right
Infinite passive cards on skilling + he's on lab rn.
You don't need to push W6. Maybe wait for some early w6 bonuses before you can throw people at w6 map 1. But should be an easy power level for your behind chars. What is your talent book level total rn?
what?
That's what I meant by keeping them in the first map of W6, not actually pushing. Bad phrasing on my side, but I know what you mean for leveling. Max book talent is 150 and I'm like an island or two away from the fury relic.
and youre mining looks great, so try upgrade name i guess bubble
Power of 10. So 10 = 1, 100 = 2, 1k = 3, etc.
Aah yeah. Without rift slug you have to wait for ancient fury relic (I was stuck in this hole for quite a while until a couple weeks ago). I'll take a look at stuff to buff your bubo in the meantime for a bit, but pushing to citringes in w5 is prob good enough tbh until you level the bubo a lot more and have 200+ tent.
You can do CC before 200+ tent, but 200 is a massive spike for CC
The problem is that the dmg is very low for pushing in W5, at least imo. Even with just passing the same gear from my ES. I tried with both gloves and staff and it's... not great.
How much CC are people getting on Samurais? Because that map is insane for respawns. Sadly only my SB has made it there and my Bubo is in the lab until at least lvl 210+
Not there but p sure the wurms are still best
Good to know
What is your sheet dmg on bubo?
Sheet dmg?
This is sheet dmg
It's not very indicative of what you hit, but helps people reference stuff.
You get that much with gloves. damn
Why use gloves again, i forgot?
For bubo:
Get all marble (equinox) resource vials and lvl 4.
Get w4 soul, zaps to lvl 4.
If you can push dreadnog bar + dusted drink to lvl 4, great. More lv4+ vials = more bubo dmg.
Your bubbles are super weak.
Purple 1 should be 100+, esp w/ how high some of your other bubbles are.
Purple 6 can be an easy push - you print 95K gold base.
Orange/Green/Purple 11 can easily be leveled to push some more dmg.
Push purple bubbles if you can (why is purple 9 at lvl 1? That's free BREW speed and more alch push!)
Getting purple 21 (w5 first one) will let you pump up some dmg on your bubo.
Gloves = short range, so your bubo runs to new mobs to drop aura. Otherwise bubo stands still and autos rather than dropping aura all over map
tbh doesn't matter. The dmg change shouldn't be that big
would that also be beneficial to es cuz of volcano?
No. ES almost entirely relies on lightning and bolt for dmg
I can not level all my bubbles cause do not have that mats for them
okay
great success, gloves take awat 3B tho
@peak verge looks like there's a decent amount of account-wide improvement you can work on at this point though. But until you get major summoning/farming buffs, you might not have huge MK and w5 prog will seem slow. But def worth doing that (or w6 m1 when you get there, active farming) for exp over w4
I feel like i m stuck at gaming. after 10~ hour I can barely get 2-4 green bits. What did u guys do to get more to unlock the next tool?
Let other systems prog to give you gaming bit boosts
Gaming is def a step system rather than linear prog
Send full sheet / gear / talents?
Do u mean I should unlock the elephant first so gaming would get easier?
if youre AFKing, staff will get you more dmg = more MK = more kph. If you active, gloves are better
That's one way, but there's some sailing artifacts, MSA bonuses, etc. that give you higher gaming bits.
I completely forgot that equinox vials exist, I'll check them out at some point. Condensed zaps I can deal with. Questionable for dreadnog and dusted. I resampled today so I'm going for most of the bubbles mentioned there but iirc purple 9 was shit due to scaling, am I misremembering?
Okey thanks
IDK about purple 9 for end game meta, but maybe so? This is what I'm at, but after 200+ tent I was able to pump through all bubbles pretty quick
21% multi sounds good to me 😅
No worries on dread nog or dusted then. The bubble buffs + other vials will be pretty ezpz
(cba to swap rings)
Had to max active talents.
So I think tab 1 & 2 could use some book focusing. Are all of your gear and tools stoned with w6 stones? You'll be surprised how much that +WIS boost gives you
Also don't need 109 luck on bubo when you have other things to lvl in tab 1.
But tbh with 300m dmg you should be able to go camp w6 m1 and get some super fast levels.
You might need to stack some red pots / golden jam as food to not let you get 1 shot
Getting aura to 140 = 5 auras, 175 = 6 auras just FYI for future breakpoints
Yeah I haven't booked tabs 1-3 yet since I can't go past 150 regardless. Gear is stoned with W6 but tools I haven't yet.
Hi everyone, i just reached W5 (like 20 minutes ago) And watched a tutorial on youtube but i didn’t quite get what i should focus on early, divinity to rise the skill with the lab ?
yes
Divinity until you get everyone to bear (as a first step) and then to goat. After goat you can move everyone to lab.
Ace isn't here, so I'll do my best imitation.
Welcome to w5! Go check out some pins 😄
Also yes, most people put all (or all minus 1) into div altar until you unlock bear. Then link all the div people to bear so you get lab bonuses. Then push div until you get goat so everyone can be linked to goat god while going back to lab camp.
So i wait then like everyone to bear then wait and like everyone to goat ?
Thanks you ! I just checked them before asking ^^
If you can push a few tool tiers to get more upgrade slots it'll help. I only recently stoned my tools across all my chars and they're pretty beefy stat buff.
Everyone except 1. Keep your main pusher out and send him to backtrack or farm things or just push into W5.
okay thanks a lot !
700 more golden grilled cheese for 10k 😄
nice I'm jelly. I'm at like 7K. Maybe i should send my bubo back to wurms to finis hthose off... is it gonna be your first beanstalk stack?
yeah 🙂
hopefully golden hampters wont be super far behind
how many hampters you have? 😭 My hampters are like 1/5th the amount of my grilled cheese lol
I feel like my drop rate hasn't been super good on those
~4k
im about half as many rn
10 bubbles left total and i have every bubble unlocked 🙂
getting very close now, got all boosts up to 150 too
Dang. How did I max bubble/cauldrons way before you with all your cheeses/hampters? 🥴
I feel it's time my Bubo goes back to worms for a while. Could finish the golden grilled cheese grind, that should be a nice bonus for everyone. Only... 11k more to go on those. I really want to finish the Golden Dumplings first, though, 12k to go on those.
Think I was at like 5k golden cheese when I maxed w6 bubbles/cauldrons.
Think my goal is to finish 10k golden hampters and finish every bubble/boost then I’m gonna shelf my bubo for a little bit and start making progress on other chars
what other prog? 
And are you talking about all bubbles or just all of w6 bubbles?
You inspired me to put my bubo back at wurms for the time being, but I have to turn off drops so it doesn't become a lag fest while I'm at work 🥲
just w6 bubbles for now, ill go back and work on w7 bubbles as we get closer i think lol. prob level my SB as hes the only other one out of lab rn 😦
Yeah that's sorta my thought too on the bubbles. We'll have way better CC/brew grind by the time w7 is close to launch anyways. My ES is out of lab AFKing in the rift (I should prob have someone else do it but don't have time to change it rn). After golden hampies maybe my bubo can finally go back to lab and someone else can come out to play
My vman has been grinding 4* resource cards for a long while now lol. Maybe he needs to go back to the lab/div at some point too
Hi everyone, thanks for the advice on starting W5 ! I have a question : Would you say that W5 bring a big improvement to Cooking/pet and building ? because i feel like their are my better path of improvement
Also Is it the world where i should push for my V-man ?
I agree, def go back to it when I’m juiced a bit more.
I got the SB in rift rn, about to unlock skill mastery 🎉
Everyone else in lab jail lol 😦
They all help your previous systems. At some point, yes, in w5 you will want to push for Vman.
Not particularly, there's one somewhat early artifact that will help some and then a superbit a bit later that will give speed based on worship TD levels, but nothing crazy. Nothing for building afaik.
Yes for vman, but typically you'll wait until you've gotten Div to either god 2 or 5 unlocks
So I am trying to sort out my sailing a bit and wnated to make sure I had my head wrapped around it. (I am reading the guide image that I think came from pins so in reference to that)
Speed is like the 'distance' they can travel in a given time. so if one is trying to optimize trips and loot (most trips per check interval) then one wants to have the ship fast enough to make the 2 trips per check interval
And then do you want to maximize the loot rating for the boat as well I assume?
And what can be done about early islands where a given ship would be way too fast or just gotta deal with it?
skill mastery is huge (esp when you get everything passive).
My v-man is working on dandelion logs then all logs I have access to will be 4*... Then I think he'll get lab/div jail before move on to ores or catching or fishing but that could change at any point.
Bubo is out farming wurms
ES is in rift
Vman skilling
Everyone else... lab slaves. I might start pulling people out and putting them on bear since all my peeps are above 100 (except Vman). I will most likely do the 1400/2100 lab lvl grind later.
how do orion's shiny feathers work? is the "rare chance" to get a feather happen every time i upgrade 'shiny feathers', and are those permenant? or does it increase the chance when i hit some other button?
I can’t wait to get vman out and start skilling with him hehe. Need my 10 troll sets :S
I'm pushing rift though hoping I can unlock edlritch artis soon though since I'm having to go back to early islands to grind out speed/loot materials
I have 0 troll items 👀 how is vman gonna help with that?
I need to skill for the starfire ore lol
Oooh. So really just getting your warriors high enough to sample starfire?
and I assume speed = distance directly
yup pretty much
Pins in #newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳
and also I assume replacing captains with higher tier ones is the right move?
hmm, i looked there
I might need to take SB out and put him at gmush though when I start pushing for trolls. I have my starfire sampling going but no bars yet.
Not always necessarily, it's based on stats but IT will usually tell you when a captain on offer is better than a captain you own.
TBH nullo salt gonna gimp me for 10 troll sets first though
jesus bro, my prints are so cooked lmfao 😢
im very early on so it seems its a flat yes for now anyways but thanks
Replace captains with captains that have better skills than The one you were replacing. Just because a captain is of a higher tier doesn't mean that it's going to have a better skill. It's completely random and they all share a minimum skill
Honestly after you get skill mastery, hit passive cards, then go grind card drops out. Makes sampling go brrrr
Oh, also while getting passive card tier, you get higher tier tools on everyone which means more STR on miner = better prints
Ship speed is how far your ship will travel in an hour (iirc)
- So if your minimum travel time is 2 hours, then you want to target islands that are within 2x your speed. Note SB family bonus and Corgi shiny pet lower minimum travel time, in-game will still show two hours. Check IE/IT to see actual time
- If you want to optimize filling your loot pile + having all boats back with an extra chest, then send boats to islands that fit your schedule. If you can check every 2-4 hours, then send to minimum distance. If you can check twice a day, send to 3-4x distance (3-4 hours travel times)
- Maximize both upgrades if you still need speed on some ships, otherwise loot and swap to loot/loot captains
- Nothing to do about early islands unless you have new ships/captains to send there
It snowballs pretty quickly tbh. But it took me like a week of saving up w6 tool stones to re-stat everyone's new tools (dem/void level for most tools is where I got everyone to) so might start buying them now
awesome thanks. one other issue I have is how the heck do I tell which captain is in which boat? not seeing a way to figure that out
yeah, im slowly pushing people out of lab to void tools, thats my goal for now
Make sure to rebook Vman's skills. Should make grinding to void tools with just a few candies pretty easy tbh
just gotta keep spamming those multi chance bubbles i guess, one day ill have decent prints. ill have multitool stamp next time i resample too which should help a ton
toggle that on, it'll show in boats on map as well as on crew tab and when they're back in dock
Yeah, this + passive cards + multitool stamp will be a big buff imo
oh right its just the captains and then correlate from there
Also pump this bubble/talent up if you can @grand scarab
yup, definitely :D. Cant wait hehe. hes getting kinda close to done
i need to go get that lol :S
may or may not have it unlocked >_>
One point in Shiny Feathers allows collecting them, these are only collected while you're in the Owl map. Unsure if more levels in the upgrade gives higher % chance to spawn them.
Shiny feathers persist through regular Feather Restarts but will reset to 0 upon Mega Reset

😮
almost level 420 lol 🙂
im yet to see a better captain 😦
Main now @bleak gazelle
jesus lol
slab obols can be annoying
I'm also working on my obols, slow going with the Obol stack RNG though
have to make sure you are buying out alchemy shop everyday
I spent almost $190 Aussie on 2 Lego sets tonight saved up for them
I need to stop neglecting spices/cooking. Have so many still to unlock, but I suck at pet battles still.
Now I'm imagining IdleOn LEGO sets
you just need the spirit lock
guess i should get that started
🐱 🍔
Okay, suddenly the game has completely stopped giving me Obols in general...oi vey.
how do i snapshot obol for construction ?
and can i confirm it somehow ? without it switching back
Check this post from scoli if you're farming on DK
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
Alternatively, #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message if you're on a different char
Time to steal everything from your account, nvm actually
Bad bad bad naci
racks on racks on racks. or w.e the kids say these days
meals on wheels?
i got a sweet dirty joke with that punch line lol
lol
Is it a donkey punch?
I'd only steal your doot
That will never happen
I'll make 99.99% use of it
almost done D:
Now what? I'm barely on floor 4 and the detection rates are between 35 and 50. Can't even untie a mf properly.
Oh..... oh........... we playing that sorta game huh. I see you.
Yeah stack bombs then stack veils when you get to that floor, makes shit way easier
As for upgrades? I can put one more in charm or several in stealth/xp/jade/item find/door rate.
xp/jade/stealth are prio
Keep them at similar costs or?
Between those 3? Or out of everything in general?
Everything in general personally. The other stuff jumps pretty quickly so generally only have to put a point or two then go back to stealth/jade/exp
Haven’t run into any issues yet really, just got to f7 but having to go back and farm better bombs/veils to get my detection a bit lower on that floor
I'll try and get xp to 100k in price just so it's on par with jade/stealth and then get some of the other cheaper upgrades.
Feels so bad having to put someone on a baby floor just for gear.
Once you get up a few floors and have more ninjas it’s not so bad, I just move everyone to whatever floor I need to farm and I get stuff pretty quick
Again, none of this is probably efficient lol, but it’s what’s been working for me, I haven’t found really any good early sneaking guides so just been winging it
Yeah, so fun seeing "early no guides, just wing it lmao" and then "mid" is just once mastery starts. 🤡
Yeah… lol 😦
It seems pretty straight forward though I guess once you kinda figure out the items and what early builds seem to work
sneaking can be a bit complicated if you wanna min max it
Times like these when I wanna write guides that are based on recent experience and doesn't rely on the memories of people who went through this content some years ago and forgot how accounts look in terms of alchemy/progression for that point in the game.
that's part of the reason we're updating the gear and merit guides and why i made an alt account 
Ive definitely somewhat considered it, especially as an account that’s kinda rushed so I think it would resonate with more people, but it would be so much work lol
I could do it for pre-W4 stuff but most has been covered pretty properly, albeit a bit overcomplicated / out of line with progression for that particular time in the game. (minmaxxing not included) Whatever struggles I had at the time are likely even more aleviated due to owl/kangaroo these days.
It's easier for me since I went through all this in like... the past 3 or 4 months? So I can remember all the mistakes I made and how to avoid them, especially after getting solid info and help from more experienced people.
Still not fully comfortable giving overly expansive advice for W4 and W5 (despite thinking I have the basics down) and I'm not at all qualified to talk on W6 past the bare minimum. 
God's work. 
yeah, i really like what yall did with the new gear graphic
did yall ever figure out what to add to the doot graphic lol? was curious
doot graphic? the companion one?
yeah, Kaito was wanting to add a couple things last night but had a brainfart and couldnt remember what it was he wanted to add xD

then we ended up with a cursed version with cursive font because of it xD
cursive seem to fit doot perfectly for me, as not having him is a curse XD
lmao
dropping my first big green gem pack on it after i get paid this weekend :S
hopefully i get lucky and just knock slug and doot out so i can be done with that
You on tier 5 treat yet?
yeah
i think i have to buy 8 max packs to hit pity doot so not the craziest thing ever i guess
I been slipping on weekly pulls. Still trying to get through t4 :/
weekly pull, what are those again :3
Where I cry for my 500th bloque
clearly need to work on my atoms.
think im just gonna buy a big pack every paycheck and pray, use the free rolls in between to push the pity timer
Yes
lol 😦
guess i should actually get samples on my 2nd chars of each class
Isn’t there a gem pack with green gems which is pretty good? Do you have that waiting for your paycheck?
yeah, ive bought most of the packs
think i got like 1 pack left with green gems in it
Only pack I've ever bought was for auto-loot.
i buy pretty much every pack when it pops up in the shop lol, i did skip the dungeon one though, that one seemed kinda lame
I’ve bought auto loot and then sacred methods cause bro-in-law gave me an Apple gc and I got nothing else to spend it on lol
work on your particles young padawans 
this pack is lame. i might get it just because $10...but its lame
i like the trophy
Gimme
not the best ever, but i dont have anything better and im hurting for gold lol
I just bought a drone, tablet, and two pairs of shoes. So I think I'm going to let my bank account recover from the gut shot for a bit, haha.
I assume that trophy is additive and not a multiplier for gold right?
it's additive with a few other sources yes.
so it's not as good as it seems
feel that. I just bought a whole ass jeep. and $200 pair of shoes just for the gym lol.
Thinking about selling my car lol, it’s in such high demand rn
Could prob make a nice chunk of money off it
Every time I think about buying something I just go look at my budget and go “oh yeah… all my $$ is gone” lol
Ayo? New drone? Thats sweet
The best part about you writing this in chat... not 1 minute earlier, I remember "oh shit, i owe trickz my comments on the graphic"
dang not even the starter pack for 16 storage slots?
Does anything speed up kitsune in gaming besides upgrades to it and the regular fertilizer speed?
squirrel speed and evo chance from farming both get applied to speed
mutation, too. it all gets thrown into speed iirc, regardless of wording
Lava logic 👍🏽
Ofc... I too hate when things make sense.
Does playing actively with SB will make my smelting bars go faster?
pretty sure offline is faster because of the way shit calculates
doesnt count multi or something along those lines while online but i dont remember exactly how it works
active doesn't count multikill for the talent, afk does
day 4 of no ancient artifact from the first island
can someone send their vman talent points presets both skilling and fighting
I need more godshard bars badly. 😵
Welcome to 2 minute claims 🙂
@halcyon viper
Is there a way to see my BB kills so i know what mobs to farm for zows/chows?
Cards
I think I saw this pack spammed after i bought auto loot and was bitter about it
@dapper prism (i don't know what time zone you are so i pray
you aren't asleep - forgive me if it does wake you)
edits re: the graphic after conferring w/ @bleak gazelle to help clarify some of the language a bit
@strong shale you have this one chowed?
you can prob snoop his account to see if he does
https://lowgunn.idleonefficiency.com/players doesn't look like it
Bro that was in here last night with 50m statues prob has that shit super chowed lol :S
why do you have his like lmao
he's asked me to review his account several times. only reason i remember what his 1st char name is
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yeah, imagine not even having 10k stamp level >_>
tbf his public is like 3-4 days behind
if you just search by name and include links only, you can snoop a lot of people's accounts
crazy bro likes to gamble and doesnt even have this
mine on the other hand 
I doubt he decided chow drams in that time
just saying
good thing I got it yestarday
my vials
im gonna get mine to level 2 some day x.x
ok thats just sad
man is slacking on his vials
i like how he's not even here and he's being roasted. this is amazing
xD
waiting on my red bars
I cant get any of those w6 ones
ooh those are your vials. ok that makes more sense
lmao
i was like.. he's missing turtles still? i could've sworn he's gotten that to like 8-10
think i'm doing okay on mine, probably need to redo traps to finish off some of the critter ones
needs to use more candy to get that 4th vial
mk this makes more sense
D:
oof lol
kek
2b, imagine being dooted 
Wtf
LOL
SCATTER
LMFAOOOO
that just legit made me laugh out loud lol, thats awesome
2 choco chips crazy
man's a professional gambler
I said i got them b2b
he doesnt have arcade pickle though
no 5 star dungeon cards
Carrying your ass ill get there eventually
that was pretty good

yk you should totally carry me too so I dont have to grind for it
Hahahahaha
humble
💪
i hold lowgun he should've made Highgun and Midgun, but no 
you couldve done Slowgun
That shit looked bad bad
you skipped 7878
LOLOL
because 789

6 when 7 walks in

And yes my copper print was still wrong, glad to know im consistent

tragic day
I'm tired boss.
Takes so long to find shit when you only have a couple guys unlocked
gotta spam upgrade this
You have 5 guys (no burgers and fries). How the fuck is your item find chance as low as mine? (and I have +15% from a charm)
i need better bombs
its based off time
Pardon?
Yalls action time is similar
you also dont even need to click the bag
Are you taking the scooby fucking doo rn?
Ok so what's the play then? Spam claim? Let it add up?
i need better kunais bro these things just dont drop at a higher level
I mean, it’s still effectively the same amount in the end though correct? It would be a higher chance but it’s 2 rolls instead of 1 if you wait 2 actions
Or am I looking at it wrong?
just check every 4h
check sneaking when you do farming
I assume the xp/jade still adds up, right? The bag is just to check for items.
Correct
I mean when does the chance get affected? When you check the bag or the inventory? Or it's the same thing.
I think it’s calculated every time you finish a cycle, clicking the bag might just be a graphic but I’ve never checked to see if I have items without clicking bag
I’ll check next cycle and see if I get an item
Yeah, I’m up to nmlb purchased
Haven’t got enough for the next one yet, pumping upgrades to move to next floor
Yeah, my summoning starting to cook now
Please do let me know.
when do you decide to save up for next summon stone
When I’m capped out on battles and enough generation that it doesn’t take days
I’m only on yellow though, but worked for white and green
Darn
hmm i think ill save up tbh
yeah, not a big deal either way
green generation just suck tho
green essence will always have terrible rates. so best to get yellow unlock sooner when you can
i mean unlocking it just lets you not really have to save up anymore
yeah, i mean once you unlock it, the upgrades yellow brings
little mana dude makes shit way easier lol
not sure where to put points any help? :"3
live or die bloomy (then sparky)
bloomy yeah lol, couldnt think of the name xD
not in red, that's for sure.
feel the same
the green essence bubble in the green cauldron can help a little if you got the logs for it
summon gain heavily affected by level as well right
kinda yeah, goes up every level




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