lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[peak verge]

Oh right afk info, I completely forgot about that lmao. Was scouring IE/IT/literally anything else.

[pulsar flare]

should i skip bubo leveling hes aroudn 200 rn and just wait til later on when i get better vails alch stampes tc

[echo crag]

if you do it, i would make sure to cc at the same time and dump most of hte water on gt bubble

[pulsar flare]

what's cc?

[echo crag]

you can dump the water as you get it while cc is up

cranium cooking

[pulsar flare]

oh cranium cook

yeah ok ic and gt bubble...

[echo crag]

grind time

exp big bubble

[pulsar flare]

oh mine is level 1

that might be an issue lmao

[bleak gazelle]

don't forget to resample mining in the next 3 hours if you want to make use of the ballot buff

[echo crag]

dump all your water in it now lol xD

[pulsar flare]

is there a good map to do uh

cc run on? should i be making sure it 1 shots

[echo crag]

wurm > citrine > flomb > cans (?)

[pulsar flare]

okie dokie

[echo crag]

make sure your bubo got the alchy and mana po box maxed

[pulsar flare]

not even at that point

i have 156 total po

[echo crag]

and see if you can give some levels to the CC big bubble

[peak verge]

When do you start basically printing PO boxes? I remember there was something involving farming pens.

[pulsar flare]

iduno when u farm pen i've seen ppl say when u get cookie chip for lab

[echo crag]

atom colider will use X pens per day

[pulsar flare]

i also dont have atom yet lmao

[echo crag]

pen farming just happen naturally at higher DR and playing active DK/ES/SB/Bubo, even afk will still net you some

[pulsar flare]

my uh es is 340 just trying to work on divinity

[bleak gazelle]

oof, failed 2/7 stones on my pick

technically 1 was an extra slot

[echo crag]

yeah those fail stone hurt

[bleak gazelle]

just a marbi one, so not too bad, just don't want to waste more pearlers atm

[echo crag]

cake grind ?

[tender pine]

when should i start doing the starsigns for the worlds later than 2

[pulsar flare]

i just did starsigns when i could why not

[tender pine]

that does not help
when should i do the starsigns to the point where it would be important to pregression and i would not waste time doing them now when i could do them much faster later

[chrome cipher]

yay just over 2xd my nugget 😄

[echo crag]

unless its the afk for x, most of the other ones are pretty easy to do

[pulsar flare]

yeah most of them are timegate and ur not rly going to feel the impact of like afking one char for 8 hrs at a spot

[echo crag]

and even then, the time/candy spent will improve your mk

[pulsar flare]

no time like the present

ur in w5 like just finish them lol what are u wainting on w7

[echo crag]

you definitely want to have them all done by the time you reach breeding 40 that's for sure

[bleak gazelle]

yuge

[echo crag]

thats good

[bleak gazelle]

armor and other tools

still don't have cake recipe

but half my alts are still naked

[echo crag]

i finaly got off my lazy ass and made all mine some magma xD

[bleak gazelle]

oh, forgot peanuts actually

[echo crag]

i should make more peanuts, but

[chrome cipher]

What items does auto trash for sneaking trash ):

[paper sail]

Sorry Peanuts, I've got a shrine to level first

[paper sail]

Bottom 2/3rds, roughly. It will not trash ANY hat or Gemstone though

[bleak gazelle]

don't remind me

[chrome cipher]

Copy that, ty 🙂

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, about 6x across the board, not bad. wonder what my other DK will be. don't think i got all his books ready

[gusty grail]

how do you get the siege flag to 150 for the achievement? when it hits 100 it spends 25

[bleak gazelle]

okay, forgot a few pieces of gear, so copper is a bit better, probably won't update anything else

[echo crag]

remove the talent from vman :3

[gusty grail]

ty

[echo crag]

sampling, never do it right the first time !

[bleak gazelle]

omfg, i had a fight afk chip instead of skill on

[solar seal]

ace... you are a glutton for pain. doing resamples in the AM on a monday

[bleak gazelle]

cause that stupid ballot bonus

figured i'd just do them now

just the mining ones

[echo crag]

yeah thats gonna be a pain to manage now

[solar seal]

after people in w6 said its additive, i said fck it - i'm not messing up my schedule

[echo crag]

funny how the next bonus is easily wining that poll

[solar seal]

i'm not surprised though

[bleak gazelle]

honestly wonder if that would be a bigger bonus to mining sampling than the eff

maybe not for me since I barely have any peanuts

[solar seal]

i should work on my 100k g.peanut

[echo crag]

i need to work on more gold bard for that one ...

a certain shrine killed my stack xD

[bleak gazelle]

yuge

[solar seal]

did you only do your logs when you resampled last? your ore seems like its older

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, just logs

i cba to do the whole family in a week man, that was awful

[echo crag]

considering the amount of time you redid the samples cuz you forgot something, yeah

[solar seal]

3 resample chars per day over 4 day period = how i've settled on doing my resample

[bleak gazelle]

it's the swapping for snapshots, even if i only do it on copper/oak i somehow forget something, either gear or a star signs or cardset

[peak verge]

Is there any use for this?

[solar seal]

i resample often enough that i don't care to snapshot

[paper sail]

Pretty ignorable imo

[bleak gazelle]

i typically only do it for copper/oak since those are primary atom sources

for full snapshotting at least. i'll do a lazy one with just cards/sets since that's just 2 clicks

mining is nice since there are 2 nodes per map

[echo crag]

i should look into snapshoting, but i know i'll be too lazy to do it

[bleak gazelle]

herus has them on their sample sheet for chopping/mining

soon

[stable temple]

I just noticed I didn't shift my shrines either

[chrome cipher]

[peak verge]

Can you be a bit more liberal with 4* cardifiers compared to 5*? Or should you still save them for W6 stuff?

[chrome cipher]

I'm so close T_T how absolutely rare are collo tickets from w4 post office?

[echo crag]

generally getting card to plat is not all that hard, beside some specific ones

[solar drift]

how do you sample on your vman ? speedrun (highest score possible) -> speedrun again after cooldown and sample

[paper sail]

Not at all worth- May as well not exist.

[solar drift]

or do you speedrun and sample at the same time

perfect i was also thinking the same

since i probably dont have time to sample while speedrunning

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-timmy-yes-gif-25221541

[echo crag]

its basicaly as you think, for sampling you do a run and kill as many bosses as you can within your time frame, then go sample using the aoe whipe skill before sampling

[chrome cipher]

Sadge, I'm like 6 tickets off of getting to 10k

I wish it was easier to use these 30k pens 🤷

[solar drift]

but this is basically second run right ?

[echo crag]

yup

[solar drift]

and just kill boss then sample

perfect hope this time im not clicking on a dungeon map again

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/941384512510754836/1178644424822104107/IMG_5799.gif?ex=6576e529&is=65647029&hm=6b6098fb134607c331fe4af9e354ddc05cf2e42ea4fc747c2dd4bbaca6bdf331&

[peak verge]

I mean...

[echo crag]

thats nothing for an es

[peak verge]

I am on ES but it still takes forever even with 1/hr card. Maybe I'm just lazy knowing that I need to do the same shit for mimics, bop boxes and thermisters afterwards.

[echo crag]

it will get faster as you get better dr/cdr

and that skull is not eclipse, you aint truly wasting your time XD

[peak verge]

That's why i'm working on snelbies, to max out all my cdr cards so I can start on regular dr cards.

I don't even have eclipse unlocked but I don't think active ES is the way to go kek.

[grand scarab]

Already have your obols farmed out?

[peak verge]

CDR cards farm -> DR cards farm -> obols farm, since I was having terrible luck with 1/100k for pops

[pseudo hinge]

Just unlocked Purrmep, which character am I meant to link with this god?

[grand scarab]

Fair enough, I did it the other way around but it didn’t take me crazy long to farm the pops

[echo crag]

and farming the snelbie can net you a few dice obols if your lucky

[peak verge]

Pops drop rate is miserable for me atm.

[grand scarab]

I did obols > cdr > dr lol

[peak verge]

https://tenor.com/view/cod-mw2-cod-mw2ghost-cod-ghost-ghost-stare-stare-gif-27067874

[echo crag]

equiped in family and on the character farming them ?

[grand scarab]

Hard to get the dice until choco

[echo crag]

make sure to upgrade all those dr obols

[bleak gazelle]

Ideally whoever your highest div character is, since minor links scale with div level. I threw it on my 2nd SB who lived in lab forever so was always top 3 for levels

probably better to do 2nd DK though since SB should ideally be on gmush farm or something

[peak verge]

the dice? or the pops?

[echo crag]

both

[grand scarab]

Both for sure

[echo crag]

update them so they get the +1%dr bonus, then try to upgrade the rarity

[peak verge]

Once I can get a full set for family and one for ES, I'll start upgrading but for now I'm just trying to fill the slots.

[chrome cipher]

Wooooh, still had the woodlin quest to do

[peak verge]

I still don't understand the purpose behind rerolling. I read the explanation on that one spreadsheet but it's eluding me.

[echo crag]

pop obol is base 3dr, rerolling it allow to get to 4dr

[peak verge]

Mine are 2dr, wtf

[grand scarab]

You reroll one to get +1%. Put it on the left to combine it, then the upgrade has the +1% on it and you save shards from rerolling it at a lower rarity

[echo crag]

copper pop is 2dr rerolled to 3, when you combined it to get a silver it will reach 4

doing the reroll on lower quality is cheaper, which is why its done on the lowest available rank of that obol

[peak verge]

Can you only reroll once?

[grand scarab]

Negative

Can do it as much as you want

[echo crag]

as much as it required to get the bonus

you rarely get it on the first try -_-

[grand scarab]

Costs fragments every time though

[peak verge]

Not in terms of attempts but in terms of bonus. Can you not get it past 3DR while in bronze?

[simple wadi]

And you can reroll any obol, even event and shop ones. Just costs more shards the higher tier obol you reroll.

[echo crag]

tis only 1 reroll slot per obol

[peak verge]

so a bronze pop can only be 2dr or 3dr

[simple wadi]

And 1dr

[peak verge]

joyous

[grand scarab]

It’s not that bad, you can get the +1 pretty quickly

[peak verge]

What about the dice obols? They start at 5DR.

[grand scarab]

Same thing, reroll em up +1%

[simple wadi]

It's +/- 1%

[peak verge]

And you always go just for +1%?

[simple wadi]

Yes

[grand scarab]

As far as I’m aware

I don’t think it goes higher than +1? Not sure though

[chrome cipher]

I can just wait a while to do the 2100 lab grind yeah? I've got 700 and 1400

[peak verge]

Doesn't seem like it, if I'm reading the wiki correctly.

[echo crag]

the bonus to dr will always be +/- 1

[chrome cipher]

I'll just wait 723d until it's in the jewel spinner actually

[peak verge]

So for this setup you're looking at 4% dr on silver pops and 8% on gold dice?

[simple wadi]

And obols with multiple bonuses, such as Kruk's obol, both bonuses can go up or down 1%

[heavy prawn]

How do I unlock eldritch artifacts

[grand scarab]

Oh I didn’t know that, well that’s a fucking nightmare

[echo crag]

rift

[peak verge]

Rift I believe.

[grand scarab]

Rift

[heavy prawn]

Damn, that's annoying

[simple wadi]

Lol I just burned 3k shards to prove that point. I hadn't tried until just now.

[grand scarab]

😦

[echo crag]

damn that still a 1/3 of my stash of frag i never use

[simple wadi]

Yeah I had 13k shards

[echo crag]

sparkle obol are costy

[grand scarab]

Jesus Christ lol, I’m rocking around with like 75, wtf

Waiting on shards to finish my gold dice lmao, already have the silvers ready to go

[peak verge]

Do you just frag luk obols?

[grand scarab]

You frag pretty much every obol from what I understand lol

[echo crag]

pretty much once the board are full lol

[grand scarab]

Seems only things worth keeping are dr/skilling obols

[solar drift]

some people keep a set of everything

[grand scarab]

(Keep one of each for slab purposes for sure)

[peak verge]

obols were on the slab? the fuck?

[grand scarab]

And tome score

[echo crag]

remember that you'll at least want to make 1 highest of each obol type for slab

i still need to make 1 more of

[chrome cipher]

2 minute claims suck ):

[echo crag]

dont remind me

[simple wadi]

12 hour claim gang

[chrome cipher]

I want my marbleglass gear T_T

[peak verge]

I weep at the thought of having to start making troll gear...

[solar drift]

im in the that state right now

after wasting all of my gold swine before when i was opening portal with all char

deleted (used) 6-10 of them

[peak verge]

gold swine?

[simple wadi]

I weep at the thought of godshard gear. 150k bars for one weapon.

[bleak gazelle]

gold twine*

[solar drift]

oops

[peak verge]

1/1mil

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-gosling-blade-runner-split-did-gif-27098529

[terse verge]

You need 30 of them too

[solar drift]

[peak verge]

I was about to slap you. 3 not 30 my guy, leave my poor heart alone.

[echo crag]

[peak verge]

30x 1 / mil roll would've downright made me uninstall

[terse verge]

3 x 10 = 30

[chrome cipher]

My brain wont let me stop until I make atleast one godshard weapon

[peak verge]

oh for all chars, that's what you meant

[solar drift]

yes

[peak verge]

Fuck that, ES is getting a set and he's stalwartly pushing through W6.

[stable temple]

Imagine getting 3 gold twines then using them by accident

[simple wadi]

Oh I intend to make a full set for slab.

[solar drift]

wish i knew earlier that marble set is easy to craft

since you only need marble bar

[chrome cipher]

I just definitely DON'T need it right now, but I want it

[peak verge]

Could you link separate gods on ES based on preset? (via talent)

[solar drift]

yes

[chrome cipher]

110 more 2 min claims until I can make my first weapon

[solar drift]

with the rabbit divine when im fighting

and when im afk in lab i have it on omniphau right now

[peak verge]

Perfect.

[paper sail]

Yup. Pretty common to have a real link of Harriep, then an Arctis poly-link for combat spec, and Omni or Goat for skilling / lab

[peak verge]

Yeah, I just need to adjust to goat on the skilling preset.

[solar drift]

hope you know how to reset that skill

if not just stand on the left side of divine platform

[bleak gazelle]

there's a handy dandy 📌

[paper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/blues-clues-notes-handy-dandy-notebook-gif-8454827

[peak verge]

Yeah it's cool for ES to adjust things. The hard part is adjusting on everyone else.

[solar drift]

just get doot

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/941384512510754836/1178644424822104107/IMG_5799.gif?ex=6576e529&is=65647029&hm=6b6098fb134607c331fe4af9e354ddc05cf2e42ea4fc747c2dd4bbaca6bdf331&

[bleak gazelle]

imagine

[peak verge]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-lightning-vanish-vanish-from-my-sight-point-gif-16564052131561773235

[simple wadi]

Mfer you just made me realize I forgot to claim pet all weekend.

[solar drift]

np

bean is coming

[peak verge]

Reminder to stock up if you don't wanna be caught lackin'.

[solar drift]

world 6 spice 💀

im crying right now because i couldnt get the current jewel

my spice rate is way to slow

[paper sail]

No sane people are buying the Pure Opal jewels lol. Earn them via lab levels instead

[peak verge]

What's the play after unlocking goat in terms of div styles? I assume the goal is to get to div 40 and 50. Mantra on everyone? Or just the 2div/2xp one?

[solar drift]

get max divine style probably

mindful is broken

[paper sail]

It'll go in phases. TranQi on everyone at 40 is a big milestone. If you don't have Doot and have people in Lab though, you'll want to be using the highest style that gives both points and exp

[bleak gazelle]

I'm a fan of keeping on focus until purrmep unlocked, but old advice is keep on mantra unless your double xp chance is 50%+ then you can use vitalic. but that was also with 9-10 chars unlocked, not sure where you're at

[peak verge]

Ok but until then?

[solar drift]

also depends on what you need i think

this is my setup right now, because i want more egg/refinery

[bleak gazelle]

Focus till purrmep imo, maybe swap to vitalic when you unlock it maybe vitalic on just one person to boost them to 50 faster

[paper sail]

I'd stick with highest Points stance until Purrmep. If you're still under 40, then swap to highest EXP stance

[solar drift]

bb is doing super chow right now and sb is farming gmushroom

i should probably get my vman and the 2 bb to 40 if possible

for transqi

[peak verge]

Is this not repeatable?

Or better yet, what makes it reset?

[grand scarab]

You only have to buy it once. They merge automatically

[simple wadi]

Resets every 4 days.

[grand scarab]

I think they merge when it resets but haven’t quite figured that out yet

[peak verge]

Oh.

[grand scarab]

Day 1 of attempting to quit smoking, this fucking sucks :S

[bleak gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/dew-it-galactic-republic-palpatine-gif-21847982

[paper sail]

They merge on their own. Just that 1/1 is all you need.

[peak verge]

Amen

For people later in the game, how low are your refinery/combustion times?

[peak verge]

christ

[frank prairie]

@grand scarab

[bleak gazelle]

kek

[peak verge]

Were shiny pets at lvl 40 breeding?

Pain ❤️

[frank prairie]

i am so close

[peak verge]

Do you just keep upgrading until you're less than 1/100? Or how do you go about new pets?

[frank prairie]

w3 nda splicer

this one too

you just need to keep trashing for more dna points tbh

[frigid swift]

that totally wont take long at all. whoever said exp cogs were the meta doesnt like me

[frank prairie]

almost level 3

[peak verge]

Ngl I don't really understand how the breeding multi works. You just put heart pets in the fence and then something happens.

[bleak gazelle]

but why

[grand scarab]

Broke 3b with those stamp upgrades and a lucky 204 book

[frank prairie]

i have literally nothing else to upgrade

[paper sail]

Gotta reach 3 to eventually reach 11

[grand scarab]

Wonder how high I gotta get to be able to 1 shot wurms, like 7-8b prob?

[compact temple]

all my upgrades cost about the same in gaming, is there some kind of tier list what i should be more focused on upgrading?

[bleak gazelle]

work on those salts and w/e you need then

[frank prairie]

im trying to upgrade 2 salts rn

reds and orange so i have no blues to get greens etc...

[chrome cipher]

Yay over 5k 😄

[peak verge]

You kinda try to keep everything at the same costs but if possible, you can always upgrade the main 3.

[frank prairie]

a

[bleak gazelle]

Don't think anyone's made one, it's more or less just upgrade whatever is cheaper. I suppose things buffing speed is priority. So Fertilizer speed, Squirrel speed, Squirrel/Kitsune imports, mutation up to about 200ish

[compact temple]

feel like i read from someone squirrel gets most important

[bleak gazelle]

also just depends on where you're at in gaming and w6, if you have equinox upgrade, if you have all your artifacts, what your nugget and snail are at

[frank prairie]

my sailing just doubled lets go

[bleak gazelle]

i followed @junior dune example and stopped squirrel bit multi around 5x and have just been dumping everything into speed. may have been able to stop it at 4x

[grand scarab]

Just nuked my entire gmush stack leveling stamps @frank prairie… whoops 😅 😂

-1 green stack, feelsbadman

[frank prairie]

vman speedrun with time cape and fight afk gains and youll get like 400k an hour

i didnt have a greenstack last night btw

[compact temple]

i think im pretty high on all these, if i get close to first fertilizer ill focus on on that, but its about double the cost as the squirrel

[frank prairie]

'

[solar seal]

i think 5x is still right. 4x is way too low to stop

[bleak gazelle]

[grand scarab]

Just ballooned cooking to 30, definitely the play for more money, this is awesome

[bleak gazelle]

i guess i just hate gaming much more than y'all

or maybe just didn't hit fast enough speeds till later, too

[bleak gazelle]

farming be damned

what's your growth cycle at?

[compact temple]

kitsune on

[grand scarab]

My vman printing 9k lol 😅

[frank prairie]

you use the multikill thing and take samples in speedrun

[grand scarab]

Ye, I only ever did my first speed run then put him on lab, haven’t had a chance to do another yet

[bleak gazelle]

ah, you're just a smidge ahead of me. from here it's mostly just nugget and snail luck to be able to finish gaming, more crops too, i guess

i'm only at like 93 found i think

[frank prairie]

im trying to improve my deathnote so i can open portals faster

and get to w3

[compact temple]

whats your snail lvl at, im 21 w 19% success and 9.4 fail...im scared lol

[frank prairie]

this will help with coin gains by alot i guess

[bleak gazelle]

i've put in a few more than suggested amount of encourages, just saving up some mail in case i fail

nugget is at 17.7m

[simple wadi]

I was at an 11% chance to reset that roll last time and it reset

[compact temple]

ah you got me by quite a bit on nugged - im 4.3m

[grand scarab]

Seeing void coins drop on the ground is so beautiful, so glad I got American tipper lol, money issues slowly becoming easier to manage

[compact temple]

have been debating on trying for gaming achievement, not sure how much boost that gives to bits

[bleak gazelle]

i went from like 9k to 89k in 1.5 weeks then hung out there for a month or so, had some really low bumps (1%, 10% etc), finally broke 1m, then nthink i had 1-2 more upgrades between there and this 17m one

[compact temple]

10k score is about 2.03 multi

[bleak gazelle]

i was clicking so much i didn't even see it pop

it's pretty trash

[solar seal]

the best nugget upgrades are the ones you don't catch, and get a nice surprise later

[peak verge]

Where was the nugget metal detector from?

[solar seal]

equinox

[compact temple]

how is your log book looking? im at 55

[grand scarab]

Pog, just got enough damage for another multi tier on oranges, lfg 🥳

[bleak gazelle]

also 55. all t6 and t7 chem

[solar seal]

55 gangy

[compact temple]

does t8 exist, or am i holding onto my t7 chem for no reason?

[simple wadi]

56 here 😎

[solar seal]

depending on your speed, the t8 chem requires like 100+ days worth of gaming time

[peak verge]

Any way to improve the chances for the 2nd to last plant in gaming? Or still pure RNG and spam chances?

[simple wadi]

Am I counting wrong or are there only 7 tiers? 4 base and 3 from superbits.

[bleak gazelle]

1 from jade emp

[chrome cipher]

Should I be going for the shimmer book, or just straight pushing skill eff?

[frank prairie]

going to make the world record

[bleak gazelle]

i gambled some for book, wish i'd just gone straight eff though

much better earlier on, can gamble for book later

especially since we have a new artifact which boosts the bonuses from shimmer island

[chrome cipher]

copy that, yeah just got that one to ancient

[frank prairie]

bro what lmao

[bleak gazelle]

could be worse

[frank prairie]

only 16 years not bad

[solar seal]

100 days of gaming isn't really that much. thats 100 chemplants, and if you are 5s or instant gaming = thats maybe a few hours?

[frank prairie]

yeah ive been waiting days for my crops to evo so i can get more land plots

[bleak gazelle]

man, i've got good sense, felt like i was really close

[grand scarab]

Farming sucks :S

[peak verge]

Ngl I feel like the time for farming is either very odd, or it just feels like it because I reached here too early. I can't even get enough evolutions to discover enough crops for the 3rd bonus. I might unironically reach lvl 10 and plant the new seed type before it happens.

[bleak gazelle]

🎉

[frank prairie]

because its sevearly ptw

more land plots = way better time

[bleak gazelle]

same with gaming plots too, once you get fast enough

[compact temple]

oops, glitch

[peak verge]

pay to win?

[frank prairie]

yes

[peak verge]

how

[bleak gazelle]

both are yuge

[bleak gazelle]

i should reset my vman talents and get that oj bay flag achievement

[peak verge]

I have 1 plot and 1 insta bought. I was told to save up on instas and extra plots are just... fine I guess? Are they really that big?

[bleak gazelle]

more plots = more crops = more upgrades/beans

more chances to evo, too

[peak verge]

Beans?

[solar seal]

i love going from 1 heart to 8 hearts (i wish)

[bleak gazelle]

secondary resource for upgrades later down the line

(i hope you've been buying the crop transfer tickets from w6 shop)

[peak verge]

The what now?

[bleak gazelle]

even if you may barely use them at the start like me

[frank prairie]

my summoning is cooked

[simple wadi]

*cooking

[simple wadi]

You have nowhere to go but up

[peak verge]

In my entire career, I only saw 1 green coin and that was when I first entered W6. This ain't it.

[bleak gazelle]

time to farm some gmush

[peak verge]

My bubo is peepeepoopoo in terms of gear/damage/max talent, gmush won't save it smh.

[grand scarab]

Lol

[frank prairie]

you were right

[simple wadi]

I know the feeling. I don't see green coins either.

[frank prairie]

now its cooked

[peak verge]

Artifacts pls come home.

[bleak gazelle]

wdym, birds aren't real

lord, the gp boost

oh, lul, is that why my damage spiked? gold food bonus came into effect

[simple wadi]

Consider your vote cancelled out, mfer. #democracy

[bleak gazelle]

this is going to be awful

think lava said if they all get 33% then we get all 3 bonuses

how true that is

[peak verge]

Pls no, I just want these.

[simple wadi]

I don't remember who argued with me that the mining bonus from voting was additive and therefore worthless, you were wrong. It definitely was multiplicative.

[terse verge]

Oh man. The vote this week might be close

Catching efficiency might actually make a difference for samples

[strong shale]

Yea i redid all my mining samples during the mining week

Got well over a 1b copper print

[terse verge]

I think im voting catching since my last two sovereigns arent that worth

[strong shale]

Well the shimmer bonus is still decent

[simple wadi]

But you need that extra 25% shiny pet chance, Kaito. NEED IT

[strong shale]

Its like what 40% catching eff vs 15% overall eff?

But also! Catching eff is guaranteed artifact chance isnt

[terse verge]

Catching has so few bonuses though

[bleak gazelle]

i still need a handful, but i need to resample catching

[strong shale]

Real

[bleak gazelle]

besides, i can still find artifacts

[strong shale]

Yea

The people voting artifact are just too lazy to sample

[echo crag]

i mean, can you really blame ppl for not wanting to sample

[peak verge]

Sampling should have its own loadout separate of everything else. While we're at it, why the fuck are star signs not preset based still?

[simple wadi]

Because most people have infinite star signs unlocked, so we get all stars all the time.

[peak verge]

Oh right, those exist. I completely forgot since I unlocked 5 and then the game told me to eat shit and unlock shinies.

[chrome cipher]

10 more levels till 5k class level 😄

[frank prairie]

what a upgrade tbh

[grand scarab]

Almost 4b damage now :O. Be worth it to push towards wurms for higher exp now that I’m closer to being able to farm em or just keep farming oranges?

[frank prairie]

okay ancient tablet did not help my sailing as much as i wanted

[grand scarab]

1 CC away from 80 alch 😮

[frank prairie]

i do have these guys though

39 seems like a high roll for clouds

that prob is a good choice to get tbh

dont think i have a trade though

[grand scarab]

Think cloud discover is kinda dog, not 100% sure though

[peak verge]

Idk how far you are into sailing but up to like... cloud 7-8, I don't feel like I ever missed out for not having cloud discovery. As long as the boats were fast enough for the trips, it was all gucci.

[frank prairie]

i think i am on cloud 8

[strong shale]

Speed is prob better

[frank prairie]

really bad rolls on the captains

[strong shale]

I tried to use cloud discovery until i got nearing the last cloud and realized 2h runs are much better than some cloud discovery + speed doing 4h

[frank prairie]

yeah realistically i need speed speed high rolls

[strong shale]

Yea, sailing do be rng sometimes

[peak verge]

Is there any reason to light this up?

[frank prairie]

i dont think so

[echo crag]

some do it when they cc to push GT to dumb lvl

[grand scarab]

No, maybe if you’re gonna be away from game for a super long time

[grand scarab]

Nah, you leave it off when doing CC

[echo crag]

nah when you reach 20-30k GT you need the cap it gives XD

[grand scarab]

Oh fair, well at giga high levels maybe, touché 😣😅😂

[echo crag]

that was why the at dumb lvl XD

[grand scarab]

Yeah, I thought you just meant like regular dumb, not dumb dumb 😂. I just broke 500 today and thought I was doing alright lol

One day my precious GT will be that high

[echo crag]

mine is still smol compared to others ive seen

[grand scarab]

Wild lol

[chrome cipher]

i use it so i dont have to cc daily while hourly clicking 🤷

[gilded elk]

Apreciate some guiding on this. I imagine the character you collect is the one getting xp, and we should keep a balance between all our chars? (since the xp required to lvl becomes larger and larger)?

[frank prairie]

thats disgusting

is this to get everyone to 500 fastger?

[peak verge]

Try to cloudsave, might be a desync. Sailing should be account wide, not char wide.

[echo crag]

yes, bubo does help making it lvl super fast when you get 300k every 15min

[chrome cipher]

smol ):

[echo crag]

and with lava adding bubble that get stronger for lvl above 500, you want them to be higher

[solar drift]

i fucked up with linking and now i cant speed run again

bro i cant with myself

[whole lotus]

the equinox bubble that says i need to print 1mil item on a single print does that mean without any buffs it has to be 1mil?

[solar drift]

just 1 mil print in printer

[gilded elk]

Wow, everything bad in this game seems to be a desync fault, lol

[whole lotus]

like it has to show 1mil?

[solar drift]

yes

[whole lotus]

what if its 500k and i have lab connected

[echo crag]

you need to sample 1 mil

[whole lotus]

okay okay gotcha

that would be tough ooof

[solar drift]

well i want to cry myself to sleep now i need to wait 6 days for speedrun

[peak verge]

Did it work?

[echo crag]

you're on the easier one :3

[whole lotus]

well since the bar is full feels like its going wasted thats why

for sailing any reason to change the minimum chest that i get

[peak verge]

No. Never do it.

[whole lotus]

alright

[chrome cipher]

do I just run and use my 72 hour candies for eclipse skulls

[bleak gazelle]

sounds like a waste, but i tend to hoard my candies

eclipses probably are one of the better things to candy

[peak verge]

Eclipses, vman unlock, vman skill fuck ups, chows if you're lazy.

[whole lotus]

thats almost 2 years holy

[frigid swift]

ill hold those candy for you. prob go for that Nothing trophy or w.e it is

[whole lotus]

for vman unlocking how much candies you think would be spending too much?

[gilded elk]

I don't know yet, as I've recently started w5 I have all chars on altars so I don't want to lose the "1h blocks" progress

[chrome cipher]

Already did all my candy super chows so I guess it's just eclipses

[strong shale]

Should have 2100 lab by the end of the day :d

[chrome cipher]

SB is at 3000T so probably an alright time to do it

[peak verge]

Are we talking for the W1-W3 chows? Or the 12 gmush stacks?

For W1-W3 I just sent BM, BB, 1 SB, 1 ES and Maestro to afk fight and they got it all done in about 2 or 3 days while getting w1-w2 samples along the way.

For 12 gmush on maestro tbh I just busted out like 3x 24h candies for the first time ever and called it a day.

[whole lotus]

chow is a mil?

[peak verge]

Yep.

[whole lotus]

i've been thinking of finishing all with my dk instead is that a bad idea?

[chrome cipher]

MMMMMMMMM I could keep doing claims for a godshard weapon, or just make a set of tools. but big cool weapon

[peak verge]

1. The less people, the slower the process.
2. Why dk? BB actively needs the zow/chow stacks so you might as well pull double duty.

[strong shale]

2 min claiming godshard
2 min claiming other bars for gstack

[chrome cipher]

big cool weapon ):

[strong shale]

Tru

[chrome cipher]

I don't even have my marbleglass sets I just want weapon

[whole lotus]

thats true less ppl because all of them are chilling in altar mainly and dont wanna wake them up xD andd for BB his lvl is pretty low so his kph would be very low

[chrome cipher]

I just realized I actually have 7 finished marbleglass sets that's crazy

I was in chizoar like 1.5 months ago lmao

[strong shale]

Yep, salts go brr

[chrome cipher]

Doot goes brrr*

[peak verge]

My BB is currently lvl 136 (sent him to crystal island once or twice) and pulling chows easily with afk star signs, multikill/afk fighting cards and this gear. W1 is pretty much flying by, the only issue are maps with a naturally smaller mob count where he pulls less than 200kph but otherwise it's smooth sailing.

Nobi also helps considerably if you have it unlocked.

[chrome cipher]

Lets see was end of w4 1.5 months ago after like a 2 year hiatus and now we're at samurais

[whole lotus]

ig i should also mention he isnt that well built :'3

[whole lotus]

this is mine lol

[peak verge]

If you can get him void/chiz, it's fine. You'll likely be cucked by afk gains / multikill rather than damage.

[peak verge]

That was the same gear I had before void. Neck and rings are from dungeon and I just passed them down from ES.

[whole lotus]

tbh i could take my gear from DK and put it on him instead

[peak verge]

If DK is your main pusher, you're prolly better off crafting another set.

[whole lotus]

dk is currently mining so gear isnt being used

[peak verge]

It's all cool then. Also stop mining so you don't cuck your vman too hard in the future. I'm now paying for that mistake.

[whole lotus]

i just wanted to get lvl 65 for next tool :'3 i got 2failed upgrade on luster tool thanks to w6 stones

[peak verge]

I said the same thing dw.

"Well I unlocked goat and I ignored my skills since I entered W4 so I should probably catch up."

Then you get like 30-40 levels in about a day.

Then you unlock vman and realize you ignored his skilling since you unlocked him and now he's not 1st rank in like... anything.

[whole lotus]

feel ya lol, but he is rank 1 in finishing currently and probably 2 other skilling smithing for sure

[peak verge]

Mining, chopping, fishing, catching, trapping and worship. Keep these in check.

Trapping is insanely easy to recover from. Worship is ass but you can candy charge worst case. The others... lmao. Pain.

[whole lotus]

yeah idk how im gonna get TONS of efficiency on vman considering he doesnt master anything

[peak verge]

As long as your efficiency doesn't dip below 100%, you don't care about it. You care about skill xp.

[bleak gazelle]

passive skill cards, chaos troll, normal amarok, hit transfusion and slam some candies.

[whole lotus]

long way from passive skill cards

[peak verge]

Rift wise or levels wise?

[whole lotus]

and for transfusion, if i cant hit anything how do i gain exp?

[whole lotus]

both

[peak verge]

You ignore transfusion if it fucks up your efficiency.

Tbh I'm not 100% eff on void ore but it still gives the most amount of xp so I'm sticking with it until the situation improves.

[whole lotus]

i may have talked too early it seems my maestro is fked as well lol

[peak verge]

R2 you're more than fine. I had to fix multiple things being anywhere from R4 to R7.

[bleak gazelle]

if you drop to around 90-95% you're usually still fine to use it

just have to check each node. can go to a party dungeon map to remove the buff

[peak verge]

As for passive cards... trapping, worship and fishing (bless equinox) is basically free. The rest you just use cards as usual.

[whole lotus]

ig i'll wait till this hits 12mil tomorrow then chow the f out of every map w1-w3

[peak verge]

That's on maestro, right?

[whole lotus]

yes

[peak verge]

Ok, just so you don't have any unpleasant surprises / realisations tommorow.

[whole lotus]

but my deathnote kills will vanish when i do my first speed run right?

all 12 mil of it? 😦

[peak verge]

Yep

[bleak gazelle]

well, it'll drop to 2mil

[peak verge]

You'll have access to whatever maps any other character has pushed to tho, so that's pretty baller.

[whole lotus]

i still gotta learn that later fastest route and what not but for now just wanna focus on highest kill with lowest candy spent

[peak verge]

Your first route/result is probably gonna be atrocious, just like mine, but you'll still get like... 500 vman points out of it which is more than enough for whatever you wanna use it.

I'm getting cucked by max talent level rather than speedrun rn.

I just wanna hit that one island with the fury artifact and get a fat ancient to unlock right hand and green tube.

[whole lotus]

needd that too 😦 you got fury relic yet?

[peak verge]

Nah the uhhh... the sailing distances kinda fucked me after a while. It spikes from 25k to 100k and to 300k so I'm back to the drawing board trying to recalibrate some things. I could get 100k on a few but lord knows how I'm gonna reach 300...

Sailing speed yellow bubble finally decided to show up and that was a sexy 50% boost but now it's putting a dent in my gaming bits so I need to find other upgrade avenues. Worst case I start backtracking islands.

Sailing stamp would be great if it didn't render me bankrupt.

[whole lotus]

you only sail if its 2hr distance??

[peak verge]

3 at most, 4 if I'm desperate. (clouds not withstanding)

[chrome cipher]

😄 I'll do wood later

[bright meteor]

Did you unlock all w6 maps already?

[chrome cipher]

Yeah

[bright meteor]

Okok

[icy stone]

only 8b gmush

[chrome cipher]

dont @ me

those 8b came from a 2 year hiatus lmao

havent went back since

[bright meteor]

Work it on when you get all eq

[chrome cipher]

all eq?

[icy stone]

equinox

[bright meteor]

Eq skulls

[icy stone]

oh

[chrome cipher]

Ok I was gonna say

[icy stone]

what abt the 100b equinox

[chrome cipher]

Yeah I'm already on that

[bright meteor]

Do that too actually lol

[chrome cipher]

But working on level 500 rn

a much closer goal

[icy stone]

thos drip is crazy

[bright meteor]

I'm doing the 4.2k meal lvl missing like 100

[chrome cipher]

I'm at 4.15k ):

I need to just send everyone back to wurms I'm missing like 6 scarfs

[icy stone]

whats ur guys cooking roadkill lvl at

[bright meteor]

Gonna use some ladles

[chrome cipher]

low

[bright meteor]

I'm currently focusing on carpenter

[icy stone]

is it even worth to get to 2k

[strong shale]

Yeeaaa i needa eclipse later

Im just like ;-; my candies

[icy stone]

maybe I shud eclipse every world

[icy stone]

6% for 4000 levels is wild

[paper sail]

It isn't just 6% though

It is 6% on 4 different stats

📈

[icy stone]

hmmm

that is a way to think about it

[paper sail]

It is sincerely a fantastic bubble

[icy stone]

yeah true

im think weather I shud lvl that more or get all my bubbles to 1k

[paper sail]

You're gonna need a lot of liquid to take all bubbles to 1k

May as well get that liquid more efficiently by leveling Cookin Roadkill

[icy stone]

true true

I need that 500k cc or wtv is a good amount

[paper sail]

500k kinda smol now

Get those 600ks

[icy stone]

really?

oh man

pls give me slug next week

btw why do people say use mittens of the gods instead of stingers

I cant even equip them bcas im not a beginner right?

[terse verge]

Not mitten. Godshard wand has low range so you can upgrade out of stingers

[slate flare]

Is there any good way to farm "Strung tooth of the divine"?

[terse verge]

Kill boss and pray

[bleak gazelle]

kill boss on normal for key efficiency and pray

or kill boss on nightmare if you have the quest and pray harder

[paper sail]

The godshard wand has a range roughly comparable to Stingers, but with way better stats for damage and money

[peak verge]

Any HH gamers?

[bleak gazelle]

so close to unlocking new bribes

[dire anvil]

Woo just beat my record for cranium cooking .. still need to work on getting my cranium cooking level up but still 150k seconds isn’t too bad :), phone lag kinda made it worse

[icy stone]

they kinda expensive]

btw ace I got the recipe for god gloves yestarday at 1.8bil kills

[bleak gazelle]

i should be able to afford all of them except last

ggs, i'm still waiting on farming the molten ones

[icy stone]

[dire anvil]

Also my alch bubble is only level 30 for cranium cooking

[bleak gazelle]

can always disable orange slice drops

[dire anvil]

Ohh true .. I always end up getting the bug where the mobs turn invisible

And I’m working on getting the 100m+ orange drop achievement

[crimson thistle]

time to not craft anything here

[echo crag]

remmeber to drop it before using it

[near wolf]

Hi guys, is this tool good? Should I save my bits for this or keep going upgrade the other stuff?

[frigid swift]

feel that. i made mine the other day and was like...whelp another month and i can do somethin here...maybne

[paper sail]

They're all good

[near wolf]

Ok thanks

[fallow aurora]

even pong?

[paper sail]

Assuming you can get a 2x bit multi out of it, sure, yes, even poing is worth buying once

[bleak gazelle]

or if you can get the achievement

hit 21k once on accident when I was active farming on ES

i'll never get close again

[paper sail]

y'all gonna make me play poing again

[icy stone]

alr on it

[paper sail]

Haha yeah I totally got close once too

[frigid swift]

someday ill bother with poing again. i stopped at 6k score. that bot is just too good sometimes

[paper sail]

Just lost because I couldn't see through the nonstop loot scroll to tell where my paddle was

[earnest palm]

Can someone explain to me why my pile gets full, even though I have Unending Loot Search? I would assume it wouldn't be possible to fill it up if I had that talent

[chrome cipher]

):

[bleak gazelle]

is unending loot on your currently selected preset?

[earnest palm]

Yeah, I switched right before claiming

[paper sail]

Because you don't have Unending Loot, despite thinking you do.

[bleak gazelle]

before checking the map, correct?

[earnest palm]

🤨
Do I have to re-enter map for it to work?

[dreamy merlin]

probably

[paper sail]

Probably

[earnest palm]

Yes

[dreamy merlin]

unending loot search is usually bad anyways tho, how long afk were you claiming?

[bleak gazelle]

time to test

[chrome cipher]

game just, please

[icy stone]

how is this bot even getting these shots

[earnest palm]

Uh.. 3 hours + a bunch of procs from golden hampter

[bleak gazelle]

yep, seems like you need to refresh map/cloud save when changing

[earnest palm]

Welp, wonder how many times I've fucked that up then 🙃
Thanks

[icy stone]

there is absolutely no way it got that shot

[bleak gazelle]

If you're still farming a number of artifacts, it's typically better to not use unending loot and eat the wasted time on ghampter procs, check more often if possible

due to quantity > quality when rolling with low rolls

now if your base chance is like 2% or higher then maybe better to just be lazy and go with unending? particularly if you were gone a few days

i'd still check map between each afk claim though

[dreamy merlin]

thats crazy

[jolly junco]

How many evolution stages are there to gaming plants by default?

[bleak gazelle]

4

[paper sail]

Not too crazy, honestly. The final lantern is several times more rare

[earnest palm]

I see, thanks for letting me know

[bleak gazelle]

same thing with gaming mutations if you haven't gotten all of those

[jolly junco]

Damn, okay, so I've had some bad luck so far getting the 5th evo on any of my sprou species

[paper sail]

For a sanity check, mutation tab shows you

[whole slate]

Scoli

[jolly junco]

OH

THANKS SCOLI!

[bleak gazelle]

3 unlocked from superbits, 1 from w6 jade emp

[whole slate]

I'm 1 eclipse away from finishing eclipses

[jolly junco]

I feel like I should leave my plants for a bit to just unlock the 5th evos to go into my log book to increase my bit multiplier

[bleak gazelle]

how's your speed?

and your bubble?

[jolly junco]

1.37 Hr

[jolly junco]

lvl 54

[earnest palm]

As in, claim in between afk claims or what is the parallel to gaming?

[bleak gazelle]

do you have chems unlocked yet?

[bleak gazelle]

when rolling for plant mutations, especially the last two, you typically just want to roll for them as often as possible instead of trying to make the % higher

[earnest palm]

Ah in that way

[bleak gazelle]

i wouldn't bother with waiting for tier 5s, your goal right now should be to unlock last two mutations by claiming as often as possible and rolling as often as possible

and pray for higher nugget

[jolly junco]

[whole slate]

Remember in gaming and sailing more chances Is better than Better chances

[dreamy merlin]

im still yet to get chem

[whole slate]

Skill issue smh

[bleak gazelle]

have you tried clicking harder?

[fallow aurora]

click more often

[whole slate]

0.1 is the perfect range tbh

I got evergreen the same day as doot and I got chem a week after doot

[bleak gazelle]

iirc evergreen took me a long time then chem came shortly after

[dreamy merlin]

doot haver

evergreen took a long time and chem is taking even longer

[bleak gazelle]

not that it helped much at the time cause my speed was still so low

[near wolf]

what does this mean? I have 8 apocalypse. should I spend 8*33 worth of points?

[grand scarab]

No, you level it in 33 point increments

[bleak gazelle]

no, level the talent in multiples of 33

the damage boost increases every 33 levels

[near wolf]

ahh okey

thanks guys

[peak verge]

same as symbols has X*20, since it gets a level every 20 points

[bleak gazelle]

and atom collider on (x*10)...+1

[solar seal]

i never realized that about Bb - shows how much i play it

[grand scarab]

lol

Just need to squeeze a bit more damage out and I can be ready for wurms today I think 🤔 🙏🏽

[bleak gazelle]

you got the hp?

[icy stone]

im poor

[grand scarab]

Yeah :). Worst case I might have to drop 1 crystal card for hp card, but I think I’ll be Gucci without

[solar seal]

moar cc

[bleak gazelle]

red pot

[icy stone]

I was leveling raodkill

[grand scarab]

Actually nvm, I could drop gold bread for extra hp pot

[icy stone]

I buy the upgrade for more retries and it insta refills it

[grand scarab]

Yeah, thats accounting for 1 already, maybe have to run 2

[chrome cipher]

how many tome points is top 10?

[bleak gazelle]

what else are you using besides crystal cards?

[frigid swift]

atoms go slow

[dreamy merlin]

ill use my bottled winds next week

[frigid swift]

idk what the opposite of brrrr is lol

[paper sail]

Toolbox tells you

[chrome cipher]

Thanks 😄

[frigid swift]

Oh snap. almost 25% maybe if i actually worked on tome at some point

[grand scarab]

Be waste of time to go try to get snowman cards with bubo? That’s only 2*, could get some easy damage there

[strong shale]

Just get em on ES

[whole slate]

Boutta hit 5%

[paper sail]

You don't get anything for hitting the thresholds so I never cared 👌

[whole slate]

BUBO

[whole slate]

It's a ego stroker tbh

[icy stone]

yeah im doing it rn

[whole slate]

It's usually brrrr but ok

[frigid swift]

mine arent "brrr-ing" enough lol

[whole slate]

Me too

[pulsar flare]

the account meta build is 2 sb correcT?

[worldly lagoon]

2 sb 2 dk 2 es, 1 of everything else

[crimson thistle]

10 vmen

[pulsar flare]

that's what i thought it was just wanted to double check

[thorn osprey]

just opened w/5 and wanted to know if it was worth pushing for 10th toon before doing divinity/lab grind? I'm only about 100 account lvls away.

[pulsar flare]

last charcter, and least used class :S

[worldly lagoon]

i would highly suggest pushing world 6 before u stop for divinity/lab

unlock w6 skills (summoning, sneaking, farming) then slow down for lab/divinity

[thorn osprey]

bet, thank you

[tranquil gorge]

How do people generally reach 200% crit chance? whata the main source?

[worldly lagoon]

crit statue

[worldly lagoon]

with all the buffs to statues this is 400% to all my chars, and 700% to my ES

so onyx beholder statue gives u infinite crit more or less

[tranquil gorge]

damn thats stong, You kinda need good crystsl rste to farm that though right

[dreamy merlin]

statue does an insane amount

[worldly lagoon]

beholder statues are some of the easiest to farm btu mostly yes, crystal spawn grinding

[tranquil gorge]

hmm.. worth it without choco chip?

[dreamy merlin]

this is how much mine give to everyone

[tranquil gorge]

I see

any google docs/guides on statue farming min/maxing out there?

[stray hull]

step 4, get choco chip 😉

and max out geenei and poop cards

[tranquil gorge]

Yeah were about 50 days from it being in shop.. ive got the matts sitting here :p

[worldly lagoon]

this is all my sources of crystal spawn, im at 1/23, so aim for these

[stray hull]

lol yea, im short on the mats still but def waiting for it

[peak verge]

This is genuinely fucking bull.

HOW? ALL I WANT IS A KUNAI

[grand scarab]

Damn, my internets dead, hopefully this shit comes back on soon and I don’t waste too much time not making gains :S

[weary gulch]

Kunai floors are harder to get items

The nuchaku floor on the other end , only give 1 item at a time if you are active

[peak verge]

Wdym?

[wary sparrow]

is it possible to beat kattlekruk with 21m damage?

[weary gulch]

What class?

[wary sparrow]

DK

[weary gulch]

If you one shot the moles , yes

[frigid swift]

which is unlikely at 21m

[wary sparrow]

haha, yeah, far from that

[weary gulch]

DK does have more crit so

[frigid swift]

the pin is pretty much the bare minimum you need to do it and not spend 45 mins in the fight

[wary sparrow]

i'm gonna leave it afk for an hour or two and see if i can even make any decent progress

[bleak gazelle]

i'd just check like 10 minutes and see if you're below full hp

[tranquil gorge]

shouldnt be too hard to get most of those. My dk doesnt really need to be strong either right becsuse its just w1 matts

How do you get the star talent over 100?

[worldly lagoon]

100 gives 116%

[jaunty harbor]

snail got reset back to 15 for the 3rd time 🙂

[bleak gazelle]

rip

i've been chilling at 19 for a week or two now

[jaunty harbor]

I've chilled for 2 months at once point

dumping all to encourage 🙂

[worldly lagoon]

i haven't touched my snail since like january

[icy stone]

WE DID IT

[bleak gazelle]

wanna lend me yours?

maybe your nuggie too

[icy stone]

gatta remember to atom this time

[worldly lagoon]

nah he's not allowed around other people or else he will tell about the abuse

[icy stone]

is ur snail maxed

[worldly lagoon]

after much abuse

[icy stone]

gimme 🔫

[worldly lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/omw-slow-on-my-way-cute-monsters-inc-gif-13117511354565041783

[icy stone]

ill give you my 20

do you even need the 33mil

[worldly lagoon]

i mean, i need a better nugget mostly

[icy stone]

exactly

[dire anvil]

Is worms better than oranges for bubo alch farming ?

[icy stone]

ye

[worldly lagoon]

wurms are best CC farming in general

[icy stone]

just send the 20

[worldly lagoon]

even better than w6 spots

[dire anvil]

Huh ok

Cc?

[icy stone]

cranium cooking

[dire anvil]

Oh oki

Just pumped up my cc alch bubble from lvl 30 to 105, and am bout to unlock wurms looking forward to the improvement

Is 700m dps enough for wurms ?

[icy stone]

they ahve 1.5b hp

[dire anvil]

Darn

[icy stone]

its more like can you survive

[dire anvil]

I’m hitting for around 2.5b should be enough , no?

[icy stone]

if ur gas is hitting atleast 1.5b ur good

[dire anvil]

Okok yeah I’m good then

[crimson thistle]

whats your defense at?

[dire anvil]

10k

[bleak gazelle]

you'll want to remove Balance of Pain prayer if you have it on and then throw on at least 1 health pot, maybe two

[solar seal]

you aren't good. sitting at only 7.5k HP, you will constantly die to crystal mobs - i suggest equipping 1-2 red pots until you get ~20K hp to survive

[wary sparrow]

ok didnt testk afk but active is kinda working. just a long process

[worldly lagoon]

i need more defense :(

[dire anvil]

I one hit the crystal mobs at oranges , are they different at wurms?

[crimson thistle]

They'll likely oneshot you

[solar seal]

crystal scales to the map they are on

[dire anvil]

Ohh

[worldly lagoon]

crystal mobs scale with the monster on the map

[bleak gazelle]

solid, you said you were at 21m max sheet damage?

[wary sparrow]

yep

[solar seal]

capybara love eatting up low HP bubos on wurms map

[worldly lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-capivara-funny-despiuvas-piuvas-gif-25552392

[dire anvil]

I might stick with citrines for now then .. lol

[wary sparrow]

here's the overall stats

[worldly lagoon]

actual footage of a cappy eating a bubo

[tranquil gorge]

what should i do with colleseum tickets? I just hit w6, too weak for w6 colo, was thinking of doing w4 colo for troll tickets?

[crimson thistle]

i stopped getting oneshot from wurms at 18k hp and 4k defense

[worldly lagoon]

save them, hoard them like a dragon, look at colo and hiss like a terrified cat and refuse to spend them until ur DR is over 40x

[dire anvil]

40x? Damn .. I was happy filling out my obol table yesterday hitting 13x lol

[solar seal]

better question: how long have you been in there so far

[wary sparrow]

around.... 30 min...

[tranquil gorge]

lmao im currently working on DR only around 6x, idk how to pump it much higher besides cards

[solar seal]

yeah thought so

[dire anvil]

Farm obols @tranquil gorge that’s what I did this week to get from 6x to 13x

[bleak gazelle]

i think i'm glad i was lazy before the change?

[worldly lagoon]

there are a bunch of sources of DR, all pretty small but they add up. here are my sources of DR i just hit 48x today (i don't have my sparkling dr obols on in this list so it's only 46.64x)

[bleak gazelle]

so let's say an hour active play at 21m on DK?
not terrible, i know a decent amount of people would take that

[lime geode]

at last maybe my pain will be aleviated soon and I will get the funni trader

[solar seal]

@wary sparrow can you show your tab4 talent investment

[wary sparrow]

it's a little crap at the moment and i'll probs respec properly later

[pastel kayak]

Morning

[wary sparrow]

put points into kill per kill just to push faster

[solar seal]

its not crap, its proper for your stage. i had a feeling you'd prob have it correct but glad to see it is

[worldly lagoon]

morning squish

[wary sparrow]

🙏 thanks!

[pastel kayak]

Not even 7:30am here @worldly lagoon

[worldly lagoon]

2pm here

[solar seal]

its mainly about not wanting to see nothign booked and sitting at max 107 or so levels. but you have them booked and leveled like they should

[wary sparrow]

yeah trying to push for the book achievement and since dk is my main pusher i put a lot of books into him

[worldly lagoon]

just do what i did with my dk talents

[wary sparrow]

i think my book max rn is 148

[solar seal]

humble brag :x

[chrome cipher]

I dont want to do 20min turtle claims anymore ):

[solar seal]

yeah i don't do 20min traps cause i'd go insane

[worldly lagoon]

i did 10 hr claims to get my turtle vial up cuz 20 mins is insane

[chrome cipher]

I think I'm gonna have to stop, I'm already doing 2 min claims trying to get godshard and I keep forgetting

[worldly lagoon]

just set a 20 min stopwatch to remind you

[chrome cipher]

or I swap to 10 hour claims and go back to forgetting

[solar seal]

doing a double insane grind. you are mad

[wary sparrow]

let's gooooooooooo

[worldly lagoon]

congrats, huge

[crimson thistle]

just listen to dogs by pink floyd thats close to 20 mins

[wary sparrow]

definitely not repeating this fight until i have 100m damage

[solar seal]

welcome to w6

[worldly lagoon]

gl winning first summoning match xD

[wary sparrow]

oh speaking of summoning, i've heard you can soft lock yourself out of something related to that, do yall know what it was? an achievement?

[chrome cipher]

quest stamp

[wary sparrow]

ooh gotcha

[solar seal]

stamps because the npc is not until deep in world

[chrome cipher]

I've already accepted that I'm soft locking myself can't be bothered

[tranquil gorge]

thanks this helps

[solar seal]

you can save the last white/green battles and not do them in prep for when you finally get tthere

[worldly lagoon]

np gl, as u notice most sources are pretty low but they all add up

[wary sparrow]

noted, thanks for the advice 🙏

[chrome cipher]

I'm stuck with cyan battles and still on the second quest 🙂

[tranquil gorge]

I really need to grt onto fsrming

[icy stone]

axel do you play brawlstars

[worldly lagoon]

i played for a few days when it came out but i hated having to do daily stuff on it

[icy stone]

yeah same recently got back into it and its pretty good

[chrome cipher]

maybe I wont softlock myself I didn't realize I got the 1hp thing done

Just need 2500 mana now

[icy stone]

just realized ive been ccing for the past 20 hours with my chopping cards

knew my rates were low

[chrome cipher]

Is there like ever an actual reason to use w5 stones over 26

w6*

like if I brick my godshard weapon I deserved it

[worldly lagoon]

Always use w6

[peak verge]

83 is such a big success rate... it's in God's hands past that.

[worldly lagoon]

Even if u get fails its still better

[chrome cipher]

I hope I fail 7 in a row

[peak verge]

reverse psychology doesn't work if you make it that obvious

the karmic forces feel it

[chrome cipher]

Naw I want it, it'd be impressive

[worldly lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-bride-bow-cary-elwes-gif-22918306

[chrome cipher]

At what point are you supposed to stop leveling shiny snitch?

[dreamy merlin]

max it

[worldly lagoon]

Which ones that? More shiny pets? Max it

And equip on all chars

[chrome cipher]

Shiny critters yeah, I thought you weren't supposed to max it buy maybe that was once upon a time

[dreamy merlin]

doubt it, only prayer im aware of that people dont max is royal sampler

[icy stone]

but the tome

[solar seal]

you can max royal sampler once you are 90% w/o it

[bleak gazelle]

oh, gdi. i forgot to remove sampler from my DKs

[solar seal]

then your tome is safe

[peak verge]

90% what?

[stray hull]

90% sample rate

[dire anvil]

Does “fibers of absence” prayer for death note and portal kills count for the green mush lab node too?

[peak verge]

Where can you see that stat for the sample?

[solar seal]

but you shouldn't be using it if you are already in MK tiers

[bleak gazelle]

skill info screen in-game or IE/IT

[grand scarab]

Construction skill info window

[stray hull]

construction skill on haracter

[peak verge]

Ah construction, ofc.

[stray hull]

😄

[solar seal]

you have to check IE/IT to see when its safe to take off. see #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[dire anvil]

Huh

Close

[solar seal]

god. the panic seeing your nuggets suddenly at <1k cause you've just been chem-chaining without paying attention, and then you realize you got a new nugget and it thankfully wasn't a 5-10% increase

[bright meteor]

Oh yeah I really need that xp boost

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, couldn't be me

[icy stone]

nice

[peak verge]

Where is that stat found? Which site/tab?

[bright meteor]

Still 900k nugget

[dreamy merlin]

it isnt that big tbh

[bright meteor]

I know I won't do that

Was joking

[icy stone]

construction

skill tab

[peak verge]

Can't seem to find it on either IE/IT.

[solar seal]

on IT - account > w3 > printer
on IE - not sure if it has it

[peak verge]

Ah printer, not construction this time.

[stray hull]

yea I dont see it on IE.

[peak verge]

Unrelated but it's criminal that the DK talent works on a certain amount of refinery cycles rather than hours. 8 cycles is like... less than 20 minutes after a point.

[solar seal]

agreed

its great at start of construction, not so much later - why you see people stop using it at a certain point

[peak verge]

At the start it was insane but now... and I'm not even as low as I can get with the refinery speed.

[solar seal]

though, it becomes useful again once you get to insane high refinery levels

i.e. when you can finish the 1M within that many cycles... but thats like bleeding edge levels

[peak verge]

Unrelated but do you have any advice for managing salts?

I feel like I'm running out of salts rather often, either because they need to convert into different salts or because I need to use them to upgrade plenty of things, so I'm kinda stuck until a new 0% finishes on red salts to begin again.

On red and green I'd rather not cash out early and reset an entire cycle worth of progress but I'm tempted rather often.

[bleak gazelle]

My advice
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=refinery

[worldly lagoon]

use the autoreview website to see ur salt ratios, try to keep them all positive, here's mine for example, all mine are in the positive aside from pink so i have my nullo salt turned off until i get my pink back in positive, just pay attention to this and do ur best to make sure things stay positive

[terse verge]

There are more complicated ways of preparing for/budgeting salts but it requires a bit of planning

[icy stone]

man I need my water to boil faster

[terse verge]

An easy trick i suggest sometimes is to store away a small amount of salts on a character and lock them so they dont go into storage. This way you can have a small bank to use when you need it

[pastel heath]

i think you got a tiny bit of excess red salt

[dreamy merlin]

just a bit

[worldly lagoon]

yeah i only worked on red for like 6 weeks, i was too lazy to resample the logs for orange

[peak verge]

I mean....

[worldly lagoon]

i would at least get ur stuff in the positive lol

maybe turn off all but red til u do a few cycles and turn on colors one by one to keep them positive

[dreamy merlin]

says with -20 purple

[peak verge]

0 is in the positives

[worldly lagoon]

i rly wanted a good stockpile of nullo early on, so i went a lil hard

[dreamy merlin]

0 isnt possitive or negative

[worldly lagoon]

'

[peak verge]

I need to keep producing purples to unlock atom collider and voidinator, after that I'll have to stop some of them.

[frigid swift]

bruv. i was so sure that the next coin would get me to the last w6 chest...i was wrong lol

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, it do be like that

[worldly lagoon]

just need 200 more quack

[frigid swift]

lol

[pastel heath]

just start the 100bil gmush grind

and all your money problems will go away

[frigid swift]

i have more tremur kills than i do gmush

[pastel heath]

welp

that may be the problem

[dreamy merlin]

banish all archers to gmush