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[sharp mauve]

Surely he will

[bleak gazelle]

While that's probably most optimal, it's still a game, so play your way. If you want to keep somebody out and do some backtracking go for it. Or maybe hit up the first W5 map for some levels

[nova lynx]

I am not a doot owner. 🥲

[tulip zealot]

so would i be better off grinding the last 48 lvls to get my 9th char before i put all my chars there or is it actually so good to delay that?

[sharp mauve]

I am also not a doot owner 🤷‍♂️

I just never find Omni to be ever useful even when I fall behind

[nova lynx]

I wish I had swapped to Omni earlier tbh (as soon as I hit 50 for multitool). Getting fury relic earlier would've been game changing

[bleak gazelle]

Yes but have you ever really been behind? How long have you been playing?

[nova lynx]

I admit when I'm "caught up" there will be no reason to ever use Omni

[solar seal]

acecow's gospel of the omniphau has a believer in jteegardin

[nova lynx]

I just don't have much of a reason to keep div points going up tbh. Omni is huge

[solar seal]

i'm not fighting it. just having some fun

[nova lynx]

I know I know, just stating. And with the state of discord's "rush through worlds ot unlock everything!" omni feels pretty strong after you've unlocked multitool and can run tranqi on most people

[solar seal]

you are choosing to do omniphau. you understand what that entails including the tradeoffs. i have nothing against that.

[chrome cipher]

whats the ideal island order?

[bleak gazelle]

While div levels are nice, unless you get doot they're only really beneficial for one god, and even if it's arctis it's like "ooh 3 more talent levels" compared to "here's 6/6 things I could roll that would all benefit me right now"

Having said that, I should probably preach this as just one play style that works for me

[nova lynx]

W2 fishing bottle islands?

[chrome cipher]

yeye

[solar seal]

i for one like having multiple playstyle. but ofc, this comes back to the hivemind "give me guide" mindset where people just want 1 thing

[bleak gazelle]

trash/shimmer > crytsal/seasalt/rando > fractal?

[solar seal]

generally taht sounds about right

[chrome cipher]

alright so fractal last? I can choose between rando and crystal then got the other 3

[nova lynx]

i did crystal > trash > rando > seasalt > shimmer > ... waiting for fractal w/o any input

But I think ace's sounds prob a better bet?

Crystal early for me was nice (when still in w2) because it got me free class levels on BB who was my main pusher

Now it's a map to get vman easy class levels

[bleak gazelle]

could go for crystal then fractal if you want to burn some candy

[chrome cipher]

I honestly was just thinking about going crystal for fractal candy

😄

[nova lynx]

Yeah luckily the game gives you a ton of freedom on gameplay without all of it feeling unforgiving if you don't min-max/"disc guide". Being a new(ish) player though it's interesting to see the feedback from people who were around much longer (even sitting in w6 lobby for a month or so) and how it clashes entirely with sorta the game experience of new players now (I was early w4 when w6 launched)

[solar seal]

different stroke for different folks

[bleak gazelle]

i need bread and jam to 10k, dare I gamble?

[nova lynx]

30% is pretty solid odds

[bleak gazelle]

maybe 5k each?

nah yolo life

[nova lynx]

what'll 5k of either get ya? nothin

[bleak gazelle]

[solar seal]

that's a nomwich face if i ever saw one

[solar seal]

oh wow

[bleak gazelle]

dang 2/2. i'll take it i guess

not ideal for the moment but i'll definitely take that

[solar seal]

10% to 100k 🙂

jsut do that 9 more times

[bleak gazelle]

16% akshully

idek what the meta is for gfood farming now. w5/6 colo if you need the ones they drop and use the coupons you get?

[solar seal]

no clue tbh. my plan is just hoard tickets until i somehow get to 40 DR

[frank prairie]

if the harder salts are an issue should i force a rank up?

[sharp mauve]

Nullo or?

[frank prairie]

green

my orange salts are fucked

[nova lynx]

I'd say as long as your upstream salts are good then yeah

[frank prairie]

i was a little dumb and used alot of my red salts on the salt lick

[sharp mauve]

Rank up green anyway bcs 2nd page is painfully slow, even with Construction Mastery. Some endgamers even meme-ed that

I could done multiple red rank up but not green 🤷‍♂️

[frank prairie]

yeah following this

[bleak gazelle]

[nova lynx]

this is the advice I follow. But tbh it's only just red/green levels at this point

Took me a while to balance it out lol

[frank prairie]

my construction basically doesnt need to much work anymore besides poisonic

[nova lynx]

red salts drive construction speed though. Need to pump up red prod

[frank prairie]

eh idk because i cant really get enough salts to craft gear

[nova lynx]

What gears are you trying to craft rn?

[junior dune]

I know Roo is missing

[nova lynx]

Nullo is still a pain for me, but green magically seemed to free up a bunch so it doesn't seem like a stranglehold on me crafting anything anymore

[nova lynx]

I don't see Roo listed in the breakdown on IT either though?

Unless I'm blind

[pastel kayak]

Slow,to level on my bc has only kill just over 17k a hour on it

[pale plover]

okay

[sharp mauve]

20 cards

[pale plover]

1/50m recipe for a tab i haven't unlocked yet

[nova lynx]

Don't worry about it then 😄

[pale plover]

but it's not blacked out tho.. i already got it

[nova lynx]

Nah it just means you've gotten an Adept Recipe

[sharp mauve]

+10% Total Damage from previous weapon

Only worth farming if u ever unlocked Kurk recipe from Task. 🤷‍♂️

[solar seal]

In the card loot menu:
Black box = have not discovered a recipe yet in that world
Recipe = have discovered a recipe in that world, but not this specific recipe
Nothing = have already learned this recipe

[pale plover]

ohh

okay, i was worried

ohhh yeah nevermind then, it was the food pouch from maccies

[sharp mauve]

Nice one 👍

[hushed ember]

so for the bear god, even if theyre not on the altar theyre technically in lab?

[wide lion]

Yes

[hushed ember]

sick sick

[wide lion]

But they dont get lab exp

[hushed ember]

i mean id rather get div exp and come back to lab since my dudes were in lab for most of W4

[nova lynx]

typical plan is to camp div altar w/ bear god until you unlock goat god.

[hushed ember]

yeah i assumed that i just unlocked bear and i was just making sure

[nova lynx]

👍 yeah get those lab bonuses while camping the altar

some people pull out a person to backtrack or start pushing w5 once you have nobisect

[hushed ember]

so the node in lab where all shrines act as if theyre in all maps in every world, the moai the pretty much first artifact you get from sailing does that as well, does the lab one do anythign that the artifact doesnt?

[pale plover]

as far as i know, no, not really

they kinda do the same thing

[bleak gazelle]

Lab one allows you to get shrine xp on all maps in that world if it's placed in that world's town
https://imgur.com/a/wrNktNQ

[solar seal]

w4 > primarily re: where you can get xp. the range of its scope is dwarfed by w5's effect

[bleak gazelle]

Make sure you click into the link to see all three variants

[zinc torrent]

dumb question player to player rigth?

[solar seal]

connection range is player to node

[zinc torrent]

ok skip pet xd

[solar seal]

those levels just for tome score pretty much

[zinc torrent]

yea finishing some pets to lv5, those that seem good

[bleak gazelle]

this was today's stamp

i've been so lazy with my pets. i've got IT threshold at level 7

[zinc torrent]

im going shiny spd, ref spd, meal, what else

mk

[sinful aurora]

I put mine at 20 just so it wouldnt bother me while i forget to swap them for 2 months

[bleak gazelle]

honestly don't even know what these bonuses are

so tired of breeding, still have one last map left though, once i get these last 2 locks done

[zinc torrent]

how much are all of those slots?

hvnt spent any on breeding

[sharp mauve]

Same as u I believe? But spent 2 Fenceyard gem upgrade

One actually

[zinc torrent]

oh i forgot to add how much overall gem cost

shits expensive

[sharp mauve]

Just 320 🤷‍♂️

[bleak gazelle]

wait

[zinc torrent]

lmao

still alot

[bleak gazelle]

sorry, linked regular storage first

and i was confused becasue i didn't htink i'd spent 7k

[sharp mauve]

Feels useless to purchase all unless u want min max

[icy stone]

anyone have any w6 bg's as an image

[sinful aurora]

That makes more sense. I also didnt remember spending that much.

[zinc torrent]

10days of daily boss grind

[sharp mauve]

Cheaper than Zen Cogs?

[sinful aurora]

Zen xogs were about 7k right?

[paper sail]

Shiny buffs are pretty strong. More slots, faster shiny levels.

[weary citrus]

how do you get shiny buffs?

[zinc torrent]

what do u recommend i put/lv most

[bleak gazelle]

zen cogs

[zinc torrent]

after lv40 for shiny pet

[stuck river]

I have breeding level 39

[fierce cargo]

i just ate the entire can, i bought today.....fml

[zinc torrent]

do w4 colo

[stuck river]

I totally didn't use up my tickets in w2 Colo because I wanted efaunt cape

[sharp mauve]

Is it normal for Auto Review not asking me level Faster Shiny Pet Rate beyond level 9?

[solar seal]

given w6 summoning wins change to shiny speed, i think its more acceptable getting away w/ fewer fenceyard slots now than before

[paper sail]

I recommend you use the site I already spent time putting my opinions into Meal Effect though, for a single answer. Every shiny level is 90% of a plate level on every meal

[zinc torrent]

oh forgot shiny is in there i dont look that much shiny section

[paper sail]

Completely overshadowed by the w6 farming bonus

[solar seal]

good for traps at least 🙂

[stuck river]

What?

[sinful aurora]

Additive??

[solar seal]

efaunt cape is bis for trap setting when going for critters

[sharp mauve]

From 1 level 8 and 3 level 9 faster shiny

[bleak gazelle]

oh right, i'm totally glad i just left that on my BM and forgot about it

5s gaminng while active ES makes me feel like i'm going to crash the internet

not just the game or my pc

[icy stone]

here we go again...

[sharp mauve]

You are the one updating the gear section?

[bleak gazelle]

my alts only lvl 2 man, wait for me to catch up

[icy stone]

yeah

[crimson thistle]

can you move w5 amd w6 down a pixel

[paper sail]

You say additive like it is a bad thing. Base numbers are good, it is just a small number compared to the bonus from farming crop scientist

[solar seal]

its not final so i wouldn't worry about the image as it is now

[icy stone]

theres alot of stuff to do and alot of opinions to cover so it takes awhile hopefully ill be done tmrw

[sharp mauve]

So Amarok until World 5?

||Given on how many ppl ignored Maestro||

[stuck river]

raises hand

[sharp mauve]

Put down!

[stuck river]

Actually bb is more ignored so whatever

[bleak gazelle]

ez, gg guys

[icy stone]

gg im done

[solar seal]

perfect

[stuck river]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-celebration-joy-confetti-gif-25557730

@ornate pumice come look at this shit lmao

[sharp mauve]

Newplayer sweating hard on the Godshard spear

[bleak gazelle]

i feel like we need 1 tenacity ring in w4 or w5

[zinc torrent]

too overgeared

[stuck river]

I did 2 cuz yes

[bleak gazelle]

but take it away by w6 cause i'ts not that great

[sharp mauve]

I dunno if ever buying 3rd Tena ring is a good choice 🤔

[stuck river]

I would suggest

[icy stone]

I think 2 bejeweled in w4 then 2 tenacity in w5 and w6 opol

[stuck river]

Dementia/Ice weapon/Tenacity or steel bands in w4

[icy stone]

maybe 1 tena 1 bej in w4

[stuck river]

Steel bands

[sharp mauve]

Steel Bands? Just use Serrated Rex Rings

[stuck river]

Give more stats

[bleak gazelle]

man that means i have to get the recipe for that

when am i ever going to remember to do that when i have maps to push

[stuck river]

Extra slots

[icy stone]

steel has 4 slots tena has 3

[solar seal]

tenacity ring requires level 120 - that's too high for w4

[icy stone]

true

[bleak gazelle]

oof forgot about that

[stuck river]

Doable mid-late w4

I cleared w4 at level 150

[icy stone]

I used bejeweled but idk if thats best for others

it gives exp and has 3 slots

[solar seal]

gotta keep the image simple. putting in early/mid/late caveats changes too much and adds too much complexity

[bleak gazelle]

well you have to get at least one bejeweled to unlock later rings

[stuck river]

+1 slab for mman, end

[bleak gazelle]

so it's not the worst

[solar seal]

my opinion is 1 bejeweled only really for unlock

i don't think i ever equipped mine

[zinc torrent]

cant rlly put min gears w5-6 xD

[stuck river]

I think mine is somewhere in the void rn as well

[sharp mauve]

So Steel Band for stat haul, S.Rex for Skilling 🤔

[stuck river]

My rift slug was still in half amarok in w5

[stuck river]

Correct

[icy stone]

should I rlly put steel band?

[stuck river]

I personally would say yes

[icy stone]

anyone else thoughts

[bleak gazelle]

well, strong-armed this just a bit but yay 🎉

[sharp mauve]

Like, why would u spend more currency to buy 3rd Tena

[solar seal]

i would just leave serrated rexes

[icy stone]

kk

[sharp mauve]

Maybe for min max Vman dmg but I believe there are betterrings

[stuck river]

Steel band/Serrated rex

My dumbass used elf twist

[sharp mauve]

The only reason I put Rex is to not forgetful

[solar seal]

if you have budget for space to show neutron ice ring (ram drop) - say its not a bad option

[stuck river]

Think I had 1 in w4

[icy stone]

its lvl 95

[solar seal]

but i'm hesitant to want to add it cause people might want to farm it then

[icy stone]

it is rlly good though ill put it on the side incase

[bleak gazelle]

the potential problem with rexes is you're probably still using accuracy stones on rings, so you'd just have to swap them around when you go back to skilling/sampling

[stuck river]

A cheaper knockoff of tenacity(4% vs 6%)

[bleak gazelle]

but i guess getting people used to swapping gear is good

[sharp mauve]

Who still use acc stones since the W1 Owl 💀

[stuck river]

Back in my days owl didn't exist

[icy stone]

kinda easier to get + lower lvl req

[sharp mauve]

but it is updated sheet

[solar seal]

oh boy, we got the "back in my day" already coming out

[bleak gazelle]

all these DK's coming through to kill boss?

[stuck river]

1/1m drop

[icy stone]

back in my day when w5 took along time

[icy stone]

is it really that strong?

[solar seal]

i used to walk uphill both ways just to get me some accuracy in my gear!

[icy stone]

I had to like tripple my acc for w4

[bleak gazelle]

back in my day when w3 didn't exist 🧓

[stuck river]

Back in my days physics wasn't invented

[solar seal]

its a little exaggerated. i think by w4 you'll still be alt-class stoning for acc instead of strict damage

[icy stone]

ok ill add then

[stuck river]

Actually let's justs see the current chart and make amendments

[sharp mauve]

Oh wait W1 Owl never gives Accuracy. Just stats 🤷‍♂️

[icy stone]

ive been thinking about how to word it for a few hours

[stuck river]

Roo gives accuracy Iirc

[bleak gazelle]

for the majority of new players, I would assume they haven't sat at owl to get to MF10+, same with kanga

[stuck river]

U can leave the word part to us, just do the graphics for now

[crimson thistle]

i havent either

[icy stone]

[solar seal]

slave driver kek

[stuck river]

That thing needs to be desperately updated

[solar seal]

crack that whip

[icy stone]

fr

first one took 6 hours

[sharp mauve]

I think is big enough not to use acc stones, but ppl be like "idleon has free choice" 🤷‍♂️

[stuck river]

ALCHEMY EXISTS FOR A REASON 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[sharp mauve]

Wrong person

[stuck river]

But yes

[icy stone]

anyway... for w4 im doing dimentia, ice tools, plat tools, rex rings and that one neklace I used in w3

[frank prairie]

its been 3 days cant get a kunai to drop lmao

in sneaking

[bleak gazelle]

rip

[stuck river]

Camarok/Bludgeon

[solar seal]

kangaroo is good. but its %, so still needs something to modify - where i think off-class stoning still serves its purpose. should allow you to not have to run full acc cards

[frank prairie]

they are just tied forever

[crimson thistle]

i dont think new players are going to sit there and farm for that though

[solar seal]

i should dust off my alt and do fish a little more to actually see though

[sharp mauve]

"10% AFK Gain is too small, not gonna touch roo"

[bleak gazelle]

can always go down 2 floors if you're failing too much there

[frank prairie]

im low detection

so its not a detection issue

[bleak gazelle]

no, more that i'd wager the majority of people who start this game aren't starting it for thrilling cookie clicker minigames

[frank prairie]

ive been focusing this too

[sharp mauve]

Can't disagree

[bleak gazelle]

so they're not going to be sitting there clicking even if it might be optimal, it's probably not fun for them

now if they completely ignore it then yeah, bad

[crimson thistle]

its not fun for me im only Megafeather 12 and Megafish 2

[frank prairie]

roo and owl need to be quick ref its so boring to sit there and just do nothing

[stuck river]

For w5 uh

[bleak gazelle]

i'm at feather 18 and fish 4 i just cba

[frank prairie]

or a max buy option

[tulip zealot]

for divinity do you get fractions of exp when you login? like if afk gains are 0 exp, or is it a waste to not login 1hr increments?

[bleak gazelle]

early on you do not

[crimson thistle]

both ideally

[bleak gazelle]

so make sure you check in after the hour passes

[frank prairie]

and then add more from w1-7

and make beast master the clicker hero

[sharp mauve]

If ur base Div gain is high enough, u still get fraction of it iirc? 🤔

[stuck river]

@icy stone for w5 how about put Void/Chizoar, Void weapon, dementia tools, Tenacity, Chizoar Scarfs?

[icy stone]

ye except im doing chiz

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, idk when exactly it pops up though, probably at least level 5 when you swap styles

[sharp mauve]

Newplayers cry at Buldgeon

[stuck river]

I farmed a month for that mafioso recipe

[bleak gazelle]

cluster is better

[stuck river]

Cannot disagree

[bleak gazelle]

20 water for that recipe man, that's insane

[sharp mauve]

Ngl Lava should make the recipe drops more easily

[icy stone]

idk if its adobe ai but for some reaosn when I paste something in the quality is shit then it gets really good

[solar seal]

personally, i don't like the neck option. w4 is just really awkward for necks thuogh so i can't offer a better alternative rn

[stuck river]

Early game pendant

[icy stone]

I was thinking death pendant

[stuck river]

That's literally what acecow said bruh

[icy stone]

I said that too

but ace is correct

[pastel kayak]

how to fix up the time on idleon efficiency site has it has sydney time worng all the time?

[solar seal]

yeah that's not bad actually

though i wouldn't want someone buying 10

[icy stone]

I had that in my w3 one

[solar seal]

would it be risky to show base chiz scarf as alternative?

[stuck river]

Can still work in w4

[icy stone]

imma put the icon to respec

[sharp mauve]

How big is the sync gap?

[crimson thistle]

i would say so i didnt get my first scarf until w5

[stuck river]

Probably better to show in w5

[pastel kayak]

At times 10 minutes other times can be over 20 minutes

[solar seal]

fair. that's why i questioned it

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, it'd be ideal, so that people aren't buying 10 clusters, but hard to farm then

[crimson thistle]

also new players probably arent doing boss keys

[stuck river]

Yep

[frank prairie]

this is a pretty good one early

[stuck river]

I recall the time when I got chizoar obol at my second kill

[solar seal]

oh god you are right. its not even boss key, they aren't doing the boss quest. particualrly chizoars

[stuck river]

That's too tedious I haven't even really done it yet

[bleak gazelle]

think that one's rough because you have to kill a giant eye, yeah?

[sharp mauve]

Try Cloud Save ur game and wait the ie to sync?
Otherwise try Idleon Toolbox?

[stuck river]

Yes

[crimson thistle]

i havent done efaunts quests either lol

[stuck river]

Put steel rings as alternatives as well

[solar seal]

which weapon tier are you showing? out of curiosity

[sharp mauve]

"No need to min max hard just for 1 slot"

[stuck river]

Godshard

[bleak gazelle]

man, 2k bloaches and 7k fruitflies for plat rod/net

[stuck river]

Some of my chars are still using copper

[icy stone]

ice

[stuck river]

Ice for w4, fair

[sharp mauve]

Gonna get roasted by Griffy

[solar seal]

honestly if everyone even remotely followed and had full gold tools by w3, i would be a happy camper

they can keep gold tools til w5

[icy stone]

ok

I was ganna say plat but it would be expensive

[bleak gazelle]

Can leave it as a note?

Pick is probably doable

[icy stone]

yeah w4 is ganna be a long note

[stuck river]

Think so

[bleak gazelle]

hatchet too, just 5k chain links

[solar seal]

not to make more work - can you show tools as individual boxes instead of link - to make it show taht's it not everyone needs it but hopign to show its just for primary skiller

if you do that, i would be good w/ showing plat tools

[stuck river]

Or whatever you can afford

[icy stone]

yep

so individual gold fly/fish but plat axe/pick

and t3 traps are not hard

[sharp mauve]

Do you need to make a note to always upgrade Worship Skulls? 🤔

[icy stone]

yea

[stuck river]

My vman has the shop one iirc

[icy stone]

or people will keep the one I had in w3

[stuck river]

I just decide to upgrade it and forget everytime

[sharp mauve]

That';s what whale do

[patent moss]

Question... with having Doot pet, should I still have all my characters on the TranQi style in Divinity or it doesn't matter?

[pale plover]

i only just recently realized how good those are.. only 2 of my 8 guys didnt have the shop one

[sharp mauve]

If u already done in Div for now, yes.

[stuck river]

I just kinda don't like it when somebody breaks in the chat with a random question when we have a discussion

But anyways

[sharp mauve]

If u want to seriously make progress in God Rank and Div level, then use Mindful

[solar seal]

in lab - not-tranqi
anywhere else - tranqi

[stuck river]

Tldr yes

[patent moss]

ok

thanks

[stuck river]

So back to where we are rn

Ah right tools for w4

[sharp mauve]

Mostly just ppl not updating Worship skulls even if they are cheap 🤔

[solar seal]

its not that they won't update it, most fall into syphon charge trap

so they can't even if tehy wanted to

[stuck river]

Yea

[sharp mauve]

Syphon fan 💀

[icy stone]

I really gatta stop switching up the format

[solar seal]

ngl, i was surprised you added tools to the earlier worlds

[icy stone]

you guys think people are able to craft ice gloves in w4

[ornate pumice]

Who

Who do u think u are

[icy stone]

tell me abt it... when you guys left abunch of people told me to take it out

[bleak gazelle]

if they want to farm the cubes, yeah

[sharp mauve]

I think they are too busy to farm Yellow flake

[spice lion]

😳

[bleak gazelle]

nice

[stuck river]

Idk

[bleak gazelle]

ooh, the splicer

[stuck river]

And right the gun is a great stat stick

[icy stone]

imma put the upgrade stone on it

[stuck river]

So is anybody gonna put steel bands as an alternative

That shit is so Good why nobody trust me

[solar seal]

i don't think i pushed for tools, now i gotta check my chat logs - cause if i did, i would punish past me

[icy stone]

I cant have the entire screen spammed iwth items

[bleak gazelle]

i like having tools on there

otherwise you get this

[icy stone]

I forgot who but someone told me to make a skills guide for each world

imagine how painful that would be

thats literally 6 different skills I would have to do

[stuck river]

Put a small icon on the bottom right corner of the slot

[bleak gazelle]

like... how-to guides or?

[icy stone]

like how this guide is formated but with skills

[stuck river]

Nah

How-To-Idleon

[bleak gazelle]

nah we still got !mining etc that's perfectly fine for w1-5

[icy stone]

yea

[stuck river]

!chop

[bleak gazelle]

!chopchart

[stuck river]

Yeah that's ok

[icy stone]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vROpoiWi9XQVNm6gy0hHjvD0RKQFcGFzUmX2f-1rsbv8OPQX583Er0AEZndX6JzxMhz6HG2dSOqa6GT/pubhtml#

hehe

[bleak gazelle]

look at this quality man. top tier pig

[solar seal]

chefs kiss

[icy stone]

lolol

[bleak gazelle]

i love these charts

[sharp mauve]

Does the player still playing idleon?

[bleak gazelle]

they're in the discord still i think

[pale plover]

i regret my post office

[bleak gazelle]

assuming that's the same name/player

[stuck river]

Yep it's him

[pale plover]

nearly all of my characters have 150+ boxes into def/acc from before w3 boss was out

[sharp mauve]

Last msg from June 9 2024 🤔

[bleak gazelle]

it's fine, PO Box is finishable once you get choco chip

[solar seal]

don't worry too much about that. once you are crystal farming on dk with chocochip, you will easily fill out po box orders

[stuck river]

October

[icy stone]

I got all max boxes (except for myriad)

[stuck river]

Wooooo

[icy stone]

I really cant spell rn

[solar seal]

my myriad is ~50% done. such a slow slog

[pale plover]

hopefully my DK is crystal farm ready within 85 days

which box is the best one to spam silver pens on to crank out boxes? i started doing it on the first one but the req items started ramping too much

i'd imagine it's the 2nd one huh

[icy stone]

I keep doing this thing where I do one part of this then space out for 10 mins then do another part and so on

[solar seal]

on any given day, you want to only do po boxes in multiples of 100 to maximize the bonus boxes.
once you finish your daily set, use 1 more pen to start next order but don't finish it - use 1 more pen to clear shield --> then you are ready for next day w/ 0 stack

[pale plover]

wait huh

oh, to avoid the cost getting rly bad?

[icy stone]

for food should I do 2 speeds 2 food or 3 speed 1 food

[solar seal]

if they prioritized correctly in construction, technically it should just be 1 food. but i would do 2 food to be safe

[bleak gazelle]

wonder if one red pot would be okay as an option for mages

[solar seal]

i know i had food refiller from auto arm in w4 - but i know i heavily prioritized it

[icy stone]

I could add that with a mage icon

[bleak gazelle]

food is only 2nd upgrade i think, definitely doable

[velvet sun]

quick question for yall. i just got a bunch of magma armor and can easily upgrade to cruk, the question is should i?

[bleak gazelle]

man, fuck hoops. half the time i hit enter then i move and exit out

[sharp mauve]

If your base stat is not super high and more focused on fighting, yes. 🤔

[solar seal]

for sampling purposes, at the very least, i would leave 1 set of str/agi/wis until you are ready to make 1 set of each in marbi

[velvet sun]

thank you very much!

[bleak gazelle]

I would make at least one set of kruk

[solar seal]

the other 2 sets (assuming 3 sets) - i think you are fine to go kruk

[pale plover]

i found it does this nearly every time if u click 'you know it' while ur on the div altar

[icy stone]

ignore the dude in the food

[solar seal]

i spy with my eye a guideline :3

[icy stone]

where

[solar seal]

oh no its fine, i'm just poking fun

[icy stone]

ah ah

[solar seal]

not like it'll be in published version

[icy stone]

wym

ok hes gone

[solar seal]

i'm a big fan of guidelines so 👍

[icy stone]

im so confused

[bleak gazelle]

oh, updated skull/traps here?

[icy stone]

still need to craft it

[solar seal]

dw, just ignore my comment

[bleak gazelle]

think these should be okay, 20 and 25 red salts each

[icy stone]

was thinking these since theyve been in w3 for awhile

plus its only 50 salts

[bleak gazelle]

oh, i skipped over those, oops

uhh, how fast can they get the other mats though

[solar seal]

7k rooted souls is quite a lot for the skull

[bleak gazelle]

think i was on purple skull for a while due to souls

[icy stone]

maybe the trap and the skull ace recs

[bleak gazelle]

how many starfire bars per troll set?

[solar seal]

38k

[bleak gazelle]

38k?

[icy stone]

ye

380k starfire bars, 1000 troll scales, 30 gold twines (w4 drop from flombeige), 80 cooking clogs (w4 first map), 3,3m condensed zaps, 250 pearler shells, 91500 nullo salts (FOR 10)

[bleak gazelle]

well, i can finish off the one set that was missing boots and make another one for now

oh, shit, the clogs too

[solar seal]

kek this is why i made all my troll shoes first cause fck hoarding 80 clogs

[bleak gazelle]

oh and pearlers cause i used them for something

[pale plover]

wowwee

[solar seal]

if you updated your tools recently, you might have lost a bunch there

[bleak gazelle]

ah, that's right

[solar seal]

20 per starfire tool

[bleak gazelle]

i also made this which i'm sure someone can use

right, my vman and my first ES 🙃

but it rolled with 15 str, so i feel like I should give it to a warrior

oh nvm, it just has 15 str on it?

wtf

[solar seal]

a lot of the tools just have x amount of misc stats in lower amount

[icy stone]

ok I think imma finish this tmrw

brain no work

[warm kelp]

Doing these is burning my candies pretty fast

[icy stone]

I think I should be done with dogs tmrw

[frank prairie]

I low key need new rex rings with new stones

think i still have t3 stones on

[bleak gazelle]

spike trap in 2 minutes btw

dang man, saw a ghost

[tranquil gorge]

Is w5 colleseum worth doing?

[bleak gazelle]

at least once for the questline to get the trophy, beyond that, it probably will be depending on what you're farming for, but typically best to wait till higher DR levels (20+)

[still apex]

W6 Is more ticket-efficient for gold food, So I personally haven't touched it. also judging purely by map layout W6 is easier to clear

[bleak gazelle]

Is W5 better specifically for bread though, since it's a direct drop (iirc)?

[crimson thistle]

is there any reason to keep my chars in colour bubbles after unlocking all of w6 and boosting to max?

[still apex]

The wiki says 100 bread in gold chests, I don't how exactly that's affected by DR but yeah, W6 doesn't have it

[still apex]

only preparation for later bubbles, but that's not necessary.

[crimson thistle]

gotcha

[pale plover]

on my quest for my last DR card, i've been pushing some w5 maps to get stronger and dang yo, the exp/hr is stating to get large

[pastel kayak]

What items to keep?

[stuck river]

Not like you don't have extra space

[grand scarab]

I put smoke bombs on everyone and it helped me push up floors, got my detection way lower

[pastel kayak]

Not unlocked next door yet start that now?

[grand scarab]

If it doesn’t take too long I probably would

If still takes super long maybe farm some better nunchucks if you can

Prob can’t get much higher tho I’d guess so I’d prob go ahead and open it yeah, what’s your detection like? Pretty low?

[bleak gazelle]

so close

finally maxed this out

[fierce cargo]

....

[pale plover]

why these crystal mobs got hands

[cyan mantle]

Close?

[bleak gazelle]

to sky doggies

[fierce cargo]

close when it's like 15m to open

also i just made that up

[pale plover]

The normal monsters are only hitting me like 500 but the crystal ones do like over 3k

I thought it was 2.5x

[cyan mantle]

There's still 652k left

[bleak gazelle]

idk pretty close

[fierce cargo]

wtf he's cheating

[bleak gazelle]

took a break to go get some books

[fierce cargo]

that was 3 mins ago

[bleak gazelle]

i got them multikills

[pale plover]

I think I gotta fall back to the map where I'll still have 100% acc on crystals, bc these ones are just killing me

That or I go to sleep not caring about it and just let my dude rez

[cyan mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/you-cheated-trelane-star-trek-the-original-series-cheater-gif-23455067

[bleak gazelle]

eh, idk who else needs to do this. probably bb

[frank prairie]

whats your afk on rams @pastel kayak

[past creek]

1 more day to rank up

[pastel kayak]

Depends if on main or a alt

[pastel kayak]

204.8k on main

[stuck river]

@icy stone how's the guide rn

[pastel kayak]

@frank prairie want to pet a Bigfoot?

[frank prairie]

no

[pastel kayak]

Why?

They are harmless

[sinful aurora]

Thats what you would day if they werent harmless.

[pastel kayak]

My dragons set people, on fire for fun the Bigfoots do not have fire magic

[stuck river]

[pastel kayak]

Bigfoots have ice magic not fire magic

[sinful aurora]

Do they have foot magic and use spells based on their strength stat?

[pastel kayak]

They have ice magic

[tranquil gorge]

How in the fuck are you supposed to do the w3 tower defence? The stun monsters fuck my entire towers, even with BM the snare doesnt last long enough

[fervent gate]

enough damage to kill kurk?

[frank prairie]

yes

[fierce cargo]

no

[stable temple]

Should I buy this? Will he be useful?

[sharp mauve]

May not be fast enough and does not help on upgrading ships. 🤷‍♂️

[zinc torrent]

if u book ligthning yes

[pastel kayak]

@zinc torrent is bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad

[past creek]

My abandoned account,2 secret class

And i got custard Lol

I need ram

[sharp mauve]

Wait for 2 Vman meta and revisit the acc again

[past creek]

I only do free weekly pets Lol, this account is really bad, I don't want to fix it

[cyan mantle]

Hi Pichu

How's your day been

[stuck river]

if i dont get this tear in 58 minutes i will litreally kms

[stuck river]

afternoon reaper

oh the rift is done

[cyan mantle]

Afternoon

[pastel kayak]

Getting the skills up on my account what to get up next?

[sharp mauve]

If possible, 300 on Fishing, Chopping and Catching, so u can use better cards.

[zinc torrent]

u hv equinox fish thatll be the easiest by active fish there for like just 5mins to lv30+

[pastel kayak]

On what one?

[zinc torrent]

equinox map - equinox fish - for skill mastery lv300

[pseudo iron]

quick question but execpt for a better tome score, whats the point of god ranks from divinities? do you get a bonus to something?

[gentle furnace]

extra div exp gains

[zinc torrent]

iirc the es talent

[pseudo iron]

thats all? so not really a point to doing it then?

[stuck river]

@cyan mantle found your relative

[cyan mantle]

I have a copy cat in the mix

[sinful aurora]

More div levels is always important. Es talent gives a small dmg multi. And gr also gives a small multi to all gods' blessings (the bonus you need to upgrade at the bottom).

If it's easy enough to reach, do it. If it seems too time consuming dont.

[pseudo iron]

ohhhhh, then ill do more divinities when ill finally be done with doing eclipse skull on all my worlds, w5 is the only one left😂

thanks very much for the info

[sinful aurora]

You finished w6 before w5? Nice

[pseudo iron]

yeah, i wanted to increase my characters lvl a bit before doing the other worlds

[sinful aurora]

Good idea

[pseudo iron]

pretty sure i did w6 before w3😂

[sinful aurora]

But yeah finishing eclipses before pumping god ranks is the way to go. Specially if youre close to done.

Gj in advance

[pseudo iron]

thanks a lot and thanks again for the info

[sinful aurora]

It was just 3 little things.

[stuck river]

ok uhhh

its 23b today like 20 minutes ago

[whole slate]

i made 10 of those it was nice

[zinc torrent]

any got +slot/stat?

[strong shale]

Nani?

Ooo i see what ur referring to

[dense forum]

You don't have blood marrow?

[pliant moat]

What's next on ES?
Or what to book 1st?

[stuck river]

Instead of going BRRRRR it goes brr

So I’m in the process of making it go BRRRRR

[zinc torrent]

how much meal lvs, cuz iirc mine went brrr at 2k

[strong shale]

Stamps talent, the one ur highlighting, and the alchemy bubble one

[stuck river]

600

[zinc torrent]

yea still slow but getting there

[dense forum]

I need to take another print of krakens
Took it out last time I sampled.

[zinc torrent]

idid this so i can see what i forgot before sampling

[peak verge]

Does summoning level do anything? Or is it just for the sake of "based on your level" boosts?

[junior dune]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aW_lVDeIMZjIc5u5yy8Np1z7ixmNV-Hy49aCWYGv210/edit?gid=0#gid=0 I made this when I resampled

Looks similar

[zinc torrent]

i was planning to add bubbles but too much work, urs will help with bubble lvs

[junior dune]

The worst thing is that I didn't follow my own advice

Procrastinated on sampling my ores and bugs and ended up with these amazing samples here and didn't want to fix because my relic was starting to become significant

Will fix when I don't care about atoms anymore

[zinc torrent]

i want those sample slots but with 7 i get most of then other than fishes

[stuck river]

how many is recommended

[zinc torrent]

from my experience 7 to get all sample and dupe of the 1st skilling node for atoms

what i currently run

putting higher tier logs on es to make use of hari

[fresh fox]

where do you see this info?

is that in the rift or can I access it in my character screen?

[fresh fox]

ahh

it looked like an ingame screenshot

ty

[stuck river]

aiming for 1 set of troll for my bubo rn

[solar seal]

thats what the skill mastery ui looks like in game

[fresh fox]

where is that?

[solar seal]

rift 16 reward

[fresh fox]

oh ok, so you have to go to the rift

[fresh fox]

good luck, I looked at the recipe and noped tf out

[stuck river]

is chizoar helmet or troll helmet better

[stuck river]

i feel like its time

[solar seal]

don't dismiss troll. it is the starting point for current end game armor

[zinc torrent]

need opals

[fresh fox]

I feel like it's close, but the extra % stats + slots would probably make it more versatile

[bleak gazelle]

steel bands

[fresh fox]

oh yeah, I am aware. I just don't have the salts atm to make them

[fresh fox]

what're opals?

[zinc torrent]

dg rings stat%

[fresh fox]

ahhh those are nice

8 WP too on top of the stats, nice. are those the 10k fluro points one?

okay I won't do that for a while either then 😂

I don't even have the tenacity rings with total damage (correct me if I got the stats wrong)

[zinc torrent]

use rex rings

[fresh fox]

wait I don't have the bejeweled either

[zinc torrent]

its a waste

[fresh fox]

yeah I am

[bleak gazelle]

still need to get one tenacity to unlock opals

[fresh fox]

I am planning to skip the nullo salt material bag too. so I can afford the weapons/troll armour earlier. worth it?

How many hampters should I be getting per hour for it to be worth farming?

[solar seal]

w5 hampter bag takes time but definitely better than taking away from troll nullo farm

[zinc torrent]

i just candied them

[fresh fox]

how many candies was that?

[solar seal]

'worth farming' is entirely dependent on your DR. at ~20dr, i can get like ~250 on an overnight ES iirc

[zinc torrent]

its was some time ago like 4/hr

[daring prism]

Can anyone help me figure this out - when I’m in town my damage is 25m but when I’m at w5 monster it’s 13m

[bleak gazelle]

DK refinery damage talent requires 1.5x mob accuracy to activate

[fresh fox]

hmm, I only have 7x DR atm

[fresh fox]

hmm that's quite some candy

[zinc torrent]

ye that time i just hv alot

[daring prism]

You’re right, any tips to get more dps for w5 boss, I’m full chizoar with 6% rings from dung idk how to boost dps by double or triple im only at 13m

[bleak gazelle]

Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, sailing artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, dungeon flurbos, and levels/talents are all sources of damage

[teal lynx]

^ gear/tools + sailing

[bleak gazelle]

W5 often requires a bit of backtracking to catch up on some other skills that require more time to get going. Alch, in particular, will require time as you need to invest in alch/stamps to get good samples so that you can boost your damage bubbles/stamps, then you boost your sampling abilities again, etc

[stuck river]

how about w6 /j

[bleak gazelle]

too expensive

[zinc torrent]

w6 just full focus on skilling

[solar seal]

xayayah missed artifacts which is sailing :3

[bleak gazelle]

maybe i should change it

[warm pike]

Yeah guys I’m included now😃

we don’t question how behind my sailing is as well

[solar seal]

you have 1 sovereign, thats a w

[bleak gazelle]

it's the important one too

[zinc torrent]

W with first sov

[daring prism]

How do you get things sovereign? I’m crazy behind on w5 skills that could hurt my damage a lot too

[bleak gazelle]

Regular and ancient tiers are unlocked by default, eldritch is unlocked from Rift (26, I think?), sovereign is unlocked from W6 Jade Emporium (sneaking)

Then you just sail and pray to rngesus

[zinc torrent]

eldritch rift, sov emporium

[daring prism]

So much to do for me actually I only did rift 2 so far

[zinc torrent]

should get to rift 16 min imo for skill mastery

that alone is alot

[pastel kayak]

I am over half way done with rift 25 now @zinc torrent

[warm pike]

Definitely but I feel like I should definitely be stronger for what point I’m at😭

[bleak gazelle]

Rift 16 is the first goal, but I would worry about just getting to W6 for now

[zinc torrent]

ur steak and stat wise maybe low

[bleak gazelle]

level the triangle artifact too for more NBLB bubbles

[pastel kayak]

I did get another new relic today

[zinc torrent]

almost there

[past creek]

Woah 10% drop

[bright meteor]

Finally unlocked royal eggs map

[terse verge]

Home stretch

[pastel kayak]

Gotten them in last 24 hours

That one too

[past creek]

[fresh fox]

Does bubo aura duration also increase with levels? or only the width?

[gentle furnace]

Only width

[fresh fox]

oki, any ways to increase it then?

[echo crag]

aura size increase every 35pts

duration doesnt really matter when tenta+rez make so you can cast aura almost every 2 second really

[astral stone]

I just built the atom collider and I'd like some advice. I'm mid w5 and nowhere near printing enough materials for the atom collider. However, I do have like 30M oak logs and I was wondering if it's worth unlocking the first atom. If i turn the atom collider on, how long will it take to make an atom?

[echo crag]

instant

[astral stone]

then why is it not working

[gentle furnace]

10m= 1 atom

[bleak gazelle]

is it actually instant or does it require a map change?

[gentle furnace]

Maybe this too

[chrome lily]

Should I start using the atom collider as soon as I can or until I get good prints

[gentle furnace]

On printer proc or map refresh

[astral stone]

that doesnt seem to work either 🤔

[chrome lily]

My copper ore print is around 11k

[bleak gazelle]

does the threshold amount trigger as soon as you're above it or do you have to be 10m above it?

[astral stone]

Am I misunderstanding something here? "Resources only converted if you have more than 25M". I have 30M oak logs so it should make 1 atom and stop

[astral stone]

oh that could be it

[bleak gazelle]

apologies, i honestly can't remember

[astral stone]

okay that was it, thanks!

[bleak gazelle]

oh that's good to know

i assume you got 2 atoms then?

idk how good your prints are, if you can unlock the 2nd one relatively quickly, might be worth it to help with samples, then i'd turn it off until later

[bleak gazelle]

i wouldn't even build it if that's your best print

[chrome lily]

I alr built it

[nova lynx]

Yeah I built my atom collider and it sat forever

[chrome lily]

Also I didn't even go all out on that print

No food and stuff

[astral stone]

No, I set the threshold to 15M and got 1 atom

[chrome lily]

Also it was long ago

[bleak gazelle]

well, if you want to scrounge up 10m resource to unlock first atom that's probably fine

[bleak gazelle]

ah, didn't realize there was a 15m threshold

[chrome lily]

What does 1st atom do

[nova lynx]

x% a day per upgrade up to 90%

[bleak gazelle]

at level 1 it's not really worth it since it takes forever to stack

[astral stone]

Going for Helium might be worth it instead

[bleak gazelle]

but hey, 1 stamp a day will get 1% discount

[chrome lily]

Hm

Useless stuff

[nova lynx]

Like it might be good if you don't think you can push stamps anytime soon lol

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, if you can push for that, definitely worth it at the start

[chrome lily]

I don't rly upgrade stamps cuz I am poor

[weary gulch]

Getting rid of green stacks for 5-10 atoms doesn't seem really good

[chrome lily]

I only upgrade later stamps and they eat all my money

[nova lynx]

You can't get rid of green stack, min atom conversion cutoff is 10m I believe

But yeah, forcing early atoms isn't really worth

[chrome lily]

Also what do green stacks do

Surely it gives a boost

[astral stone]

Yeah I'm not quite there yet, I should AT LEAST do the Equinox dream first

[echo crag]

with lab they give dmg

[chrome lily]

I sdr

[nova lynx]

And also required for some equinox dreams, but biggest reason is dmg from lab buff

[chrome lily]

I don't have it lightened up I think

I am pretty bad in the game

So I guess I will wait

I got 1 green stack tho

But can't make atom out of it

[nova lynx]

Where are you at @chrome lily ?

[chrome lily]

Late w5

Can't beat the boss

[daring prism]

I pushed on one character and neglected the rest so I’m stuck on rift 5 right now where 4 characters need to kill the healing guy

[nova lynx]

I mean it's not too bad. I was barely getting gs'es in w5 due to all the resource hogs. GS only reasonable if you're forcing it from farming or I started just waiting on my better prints to be abovce 10m before I started spending them (and is still my current strat)

What class and sheet dmg are you at for w5?

[astral stone]

The lab node is one of the last ones isnt it? I aint reaching that anytime soon lol, I gotta unlock the lab/div god first, maybe 10th character as well

[chrome lily]

My dk is the pusher

[echo crag]

what the average connection length of your characters ?

[chrome lily]

I can share IE or IT

[zinc torrent]

I have all the articfacts of these 3 islands, is it worth sticking around to find the gold form (Or above) of all 4

or discover a new island?

[echo crag]

tusk would be worth waiting for

[bleak gazelle]

i would always try unlocking new islands if your boats are in the 2-6 hour range, any other boats can stay behind to farm artifacts or mats to sell/upgrade

[zinc torrent]

makes sense, thanks. At this stage gold or above?

[nova lynx]

If you want, I won't be able to give any real insight rn. Got a meeting coming up then driving into work afterwards

[chrome lily]

Sure which one

IT is bad cuz it shows my damage wrong

Ie doesn't even show

[nova lynx]

I look at IE more. You can just tell me your sheet dmg

[bleak gazelle]

You'll only have access to regular and gold at this point. Next tier is from Rift 31, last tier is from W6

[chrome lily]

I think my max is around 30m

[zinc torrent]

ok great 🙂

[astral stone]

around 230 px

[nova lynx]

Aah so you're getting close to being able to contend w/ Kruk then

It's ok cause when you get to w6 you'll have plenty of time to go back and clean up all the other systems that are a little neglected 🙂

[chrome lily]

I barely kill the healers

[astral stone]

but i dont have any of the lab w4 merits so connecting to nodes is a bit tough

[bleak gazelle]

what class are you on?

[chrome lily]

Dk

[weary gulch]

Is it worth it to stick with floor 1 in sneaking after mastery 1? Or just keep going for veil

[nova lynx]

Yeah but if you get 35-40m and rebook (even with rough max levels) you should be able to clear Kruk easily. You might need to play manual though

[bleak gazelle]

probably need to redo talents

[chrome lily]

My talents are good

I got some extra and booked the most important ones

[echo crag]

in that case did you try to make a straight line to connect to, might allow you to enable a lot more stuff with the bonus of that one

[bleak gazelle]

what's your blue gem up to?

[chrome lily]

My alchemy is the problem

[weary gulch]

I have yet to drop one

[bleak gazelle]

then i would wait

i guess, alternatively, you could try next floor if your discovery chance isn't too high and farm some meteorites

[weary gulch]

Alright , rng was always shit on sneaking for me lmao

[chrome lily]

https://azekiller.idleonefficiency.com/players

Here for anyone to check and roast me

[astral stone]

I need some more time to reach that I think. I've unlocked 9th char but havent made it yet because I haven't had time. Also the 230px are my first 6 chars (I dropped the game for a year and they leveled up a lot). 7th & 8th character are at like 110. So I need some time still lol. And I only got 3 gods in divinity so no lab xp

[echo crag]

6 character is what was needed to light up all of the lab pre w6, so you might actually be able to do it, or are pretty close if all those character are at about 230px

[weary gulch]

Can't open the IE , internet too bad for a review

[chrome lily]

6 characters for whole lab before w6?🥲

[echo crag]

yup #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[chrome lily]

Nah I can't do that

[astral stone]

not quite there yet. I mean, I do reach it but... characters are fully stretched and most nodes arent lit

[nova lynx]

6 chars pre-w6 means having them all super buffed and peeps end game when w5 was the end, not for people progging now just FYI

[chrome lily]

I can only get the double stamp max

[echo crag]

now that its lit, try to see if you can adjust other characters

[chrome lily]

With my 8

[astral stone]

this is with 6 chars. Maybe i should link some more to arctis

[echo crag]

like the bonus of the last node should make it easier to connect to stuff now

[weary gulch]

Just everyone to arctics , unless leveling lab or reprinting . You will need for w6 nodes anyways

[nova lynx]

Go back and fix your prints, please. 🙂 You have an 11.4K copper ore print that you claim is pretty old and not optimized, but your best oak log print is 2.97K. Oak logs should be your king print and going to redo this will tremendously help you buff first orange bubble which will help a ton since oyu're pushing with DK.
Same with spending some time to go farm half donuts on active ES if it's strong enough so you can buff orange bubble 13 (Multorange).

With just that info and not looking at your mages or anything else I assume you can prob hit a 50k+ oak print

Will give some more input in a lil bit

[astral stone]

If that archer gets a few lab levels and connects to Spelunker... and if I make my 9th character and link 2 more characters to arctis I THINK I should be able to have most nodes lit up

[echo crag]

you might need to get a few more level as well as see if you can get some of the connection range merit or equinox upgrade to help you

god the equinox connection range seem far in retrospec tho

[spiral path]

Does anyone else punish their characters that get a lucky lad drop by forcing them to keep it in their inventory? No? Just me?

[astral stone]

w4 merits really are a struggle lol

[echo crag]

go slap the troll a bit XD

[weary gulch]

21 on bank and 10 on vman

[astral stone]

Yeah I need to do the troll one. The pet one will be done in due time as well. The chip one... maybe soon

[spiral path]

I took them out of my bank now that I'm pushing W6 on all characters, I don't get enough drops in 8-12hours to fill my inventory, so storage space is more premium than personal bag space

[echo crag]

any 2 ez w4 achievement you could do?

[astral stone]

maybe the dance one and the 800k bottle caps one. Not exactly easy but doable

[weary gulch]

If only kruk dropped the damn tooth

[astral stone]

the vman one is also a work in progress, im at like 3/40 so not quite there yet

all the others need more time

[echo crag]

yeah w4 task/ achivment are mostly time gated

[bleak gazelle]

they're so rough man, like i finished both w3 and w5 before w4 merits

[astral stone]

this maybe

i could buy one more

[weary gulch]

Oh hell no

[echo crag]

those are line width, would be "ok" if just starting, but you're at a point where they not worth the gems

[solar seal]

finally got this stupid constellation done. what a pain

[bleak gazelle]

oh nice

[stray hull]

for gaming, is the evolve chance the chance it has to move to the next stage of growth or is it something else?

[bleak gazelle]

what's your FMJ at?

[solar seal]

atomed it to 200. that was able to get my warriors to 29-30k defense

[nova lynx]

Maybe if I ever got any to drop

[solar seal]

using 5 chips and the w3 card set

[echo crag]

i need to stop being lazy and unlock that second -def prayer already ...

[bleak gazelle]

damn bruh, these things really gonna be useful for once?

[spiral path]

my BB needed this, my dks in luster armor just had enough with a few points in their skill

[bleak gazelle]

guess i can do that tonight

[solar seal]

ok yeah you ahve 8 kek

[bleak gazelle]

forgot about them tbh

[spiral path]

is active farming gold twine with my DK the wrong choice? should it be with my ES?

[solar seal]

oh i forgot about dk skill. this was just sitting there w/o anything

ES

[weary gulch]

Wait only 200 fmj? What level are your warriors

[solar seal]

like 450ish

they are like half naked still cause my gear sucks :3

[stray hull]

so like: estimate time for max growth = ( Mutation% * growth cycle time * total stages unlocked) ?

[spiral path]

my FMJ is only 122 and both my DKs could do it

[solar seal]

i neglect my warriors

[weary gulch]

I can do it then , but it's so much work

[bleak gazelle]

Mutation chance goes down per level each higher tier. I'm also not sure if any of the mutation modifiers are a separate multiplier or if they all just modify your speed. Maybe xayah knows more

[echo crag]

bah tought my dk could do it naked... well probably could if i remove balance of pain prayer XD

[bleak gazelle]

tl;dr though is don't chase tiers until you're in 5s/instant gaming range

except for chems

[spiral path]

I'm at 13k defense with the pain prayer active wearing divine armor, luster without the prayer would be like 30k, probably

[bleak gazelle]

and even then, unlocking plants for log book is piddly gains until you've invested in the bubble

[stray hull]

hmm well just trying to guestimate how long I should be expecting to wait for a plant to reach max growth cycle for log book. because it seems infinite atm unless there is a cactus lol

ah so maybe I should just be harvest cycling asap until later

[spiral path]

what level plant are we talking about, though

[solar seal]

i believe even at 5s gaming odds of a t7 is ~100 days

[bleak gazelle]

except for chem

[stray hull]

very low

[bleak gazelle]

ez gains

[solar seal]

... you are on white bits

why are you asking about t6+

[bleak gazelle]

i would pick as fast as possible so that you can roll for mutations as soon as possible

[stray hull]

yup! beats me lol just trying to figure it out

[spiral path]

yeah, your plants only have like 4 levels

[echo crag]

wouldn bother with t5+ until much later lol

[stray hull]

kk lol

[short sparrow]

Gaming will just get easier as you unlock bonuses in other skills

Mainly sailing

[solar seal]

you will get t5 naturally by gaming. t6's come by time you push late red bits. t7 is just and t8 is sacrifice to rng gods afterwards

[bleak gazelle]

You basically can't farm for mutations until you have chems unlocked, which are the last plant mutation

[echo crag]

start by getting your cycle to be every hour first XD

[stray hull]

😄

[spiral path]

oh god, 6h+ per cycle, I didn't even remember it started that bad.

[stray hull]

it started like 8.3 hrs 😛

[bleak gazelle]

oh, guess i finally got my last t6 finally

[nova lynx]

Yeah gaming sucked early on and they gave you gaming fertilizer to make you feel like gaming would prog fast lol

[stray hull]

lol def got baited by that one for sure

[spiral path]

pretty sure my only t6 are mushroom and chem

[solar seal]

be like me and raise a nice t7 chem in a corner

[bleak gazelle]

he's a bottom mid

[solar seal]

oh nice you have one already

[nova lynx]

Gaming def is something that has "power spikes" btw. So you'll make a ton of prog then stall for a bit until other systems give you buffs and what not

[bleak gazelle]

sometimes more than a bit

[nova lynx]

gimme

[stray hull]

ok that makes sense, only got w5 like this weekend so just trying set things up well as I know it will take ages

[echo crag]

my chem dont wanna t7, but i did get first tree species to t7 XD

[solar seal]

i randomly procced a 2nd t7 chem.. i don't want to use it but i know i should

[bleak gazelle]

at least until equinox upgrade, then it makes it more bearable until you get to higher end

[nova lynx]

I still need shovel equinox 😦

[stray hull]

ill just keep harvesting regularly and upgrading

[nova lynx]

Two more dream unlocks and I'll have it

[solar seal]

actually impressive you got 3 different ones before chem XD

[echo crag]

ive been busy every weekend of late and neglect the game during those day, so when i check on moday i get like 72h of afk to claim

doot make some of those bonus go higher

[bleak gazelle]

can't imagine

also swapped everyone back to goat in prep for sampling but then i unlocked last summoning bonus so i'm still booking

[echo crag]

are you at 299 book yet ?

[bleak gazelle]

nah, i don't know how long it'll take me to get that so i'm not even bothered

[echo crag]

missing the achiv ?

oh and prob that one charm i guess

[simple wadi]

I just need the charm for that

[bleak gazelle]

i'm at 25, so not sure what i'm missing atm

i do have the charm

oh, artifact isn't sov yet

[echo crag]

w6 related

[bleak gazelle]

ah and both achievements

i'm up to 6 tonkas, so hopefully i'll get that one soon

[echo crag]

should be o nthe next tonka

[bleak gazelle]

missing 3 constellations, should be able to do one tonight

last two will be a bit though

[nova lynx]

Soon'ish (I think but shrines may take forever) for nugget dream
But also have to clear a couple filler dreams before the refinery one is avail. Think I can gs 75 and solo Snakenhotep when I'm ready to pop these to clear the way

[quasi solar]

what quest do i do to get one of the divine?

[vale fox]

I think its the mole next to the boss area

Not sure though

[spiral path]

not on Royal Eggs with enough characters?

[bleak gazelle]

1.5 on sky doggies still

[echo crag]

yeah the last few of w6 take a bit of time on the more neglected characters

[whole slate]

i hate this game

[desert mango]

Is it normal to have a boat missing on your sailing map interface?

[nova lynx]

If it doesn't have a captain, I think so

[desert mango]

The captain's gone missing with it :p

Captain E, on boat 5 is gone

[echo crag]

its under captain f

[desert mango]

Ohh, is he actually?

[echo crag]

yeah look at that F closely

[desert mango]

You're absolutely right

Time for glasses

[desert mango]

Thanks :)

[grand scarab]

First sparkle dice obol 🥳🎉

And first sparkle obol period I guess lol

[nova lynx]

@chrome lily
Looks like you can almost max red/orange salt lick bonuses which are pretty big for general account prog.
Might be worth going back to get some ancient artifacts. Mainly Ruble Cuble (dmg) and Fauxory Tusk (arti chance) on island 1, but prob lower prio.
On your DK who is your pusher - book the following: tab 1 HP, tab 2 HP, reset talents and DO NOT put points into tab 3 balanced spirit. You're losing dmg with this. Also don't need to spend points in mastery skill . BOOK TAB 4 - everything is base here. Book knight, megarang, imbued shockwave, and orb at the very least. You do not need 105/105 in hand (divine intervention). You only need 1 until you have all other skills maxed. Your gaming is prob pretty weak so drop the 105pts in Gamer Strenght and pump those into Overblown Testosterone and your freshly booked skills

Honestly if you book tab 4 and reset your talents, you can prob go kill Kruk

Also, DK PO Box might be worth pumping into Mana for cooldown reduction which helps a lot.

[icy stone]

@bleak gazelle how is this worded

anything else I need to include

[bleak gazelle]

can't think of anything off the top of my head

[icy stone]

ok i'm moving on

[bleak gazelle]

bout to be dementia with w5 stones

[icy stone]

I think people can get chiz

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, maybe top half chiz/bottom void if they want

[icy stone]

should I put the legs and bottom on the side if they want

[bleak gazelle]

either that or you can do like a half/half visual on a diagonal in the pants/boots slots?

[icy stone]

oh yah I think I can do that

[solar seal]

top chiz/bottom void is usually what i recommend for w5

[icy stone]

void boots make my max dmg higher

people should have tena rings

[solar seal]

chiz scarf, either form + tenacity rings -

[tranquil blaze]

Should I push w5 with ES or DK?

I can active afk if that makes a difference

[solar seal]

your preference, either is fine for kruk

[icy stone]

caustic is ez so ill put that

[solar seal]

oddly, w5 is pretty easy to do now that i think on it

[icy stone]

yeah

same tools as w5 right?

or dim axe/pick and plat rod/fish

[solar seal]

i think going up 1 is fine

[icy stone]

I think imma go up on the trap and skull too

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, dementia pic/hatchet should be pretty easy

[solar seal]

i wouldn't go up on skull

i would say easily 50% of people we see in here don't have frigid skulls to even make anvil 4... no way they will have souls for skulls

[tropic birch]

Is there a merit shop tier list?

[bleak gazelle]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

1️⃣ W5 skill XP will speed up the divinity grind since it helps unlock stronger styles faster.
2️⃣ Aim to keep the loot pile capacity greater than your ship count so you can claim two entire cycles at once without waste.
3️⃣ Mob respawn will help afk kills in W5.
4️⃣ Total all stats will slightly improve most things. Don't buy it if you don't have the star talent points to use it.
5️⃣ Tab 4 talent points can be scarce but you only get 3 per purchase and there are a lot of other ways to get them including class lvls, skill lvls and the alchemy bubbles.
⚛️ The Atom Collider is the last building on the top row of construction requiring Nullo Salt and 10s of millions of resources to use. The discount should be bought before you start buying atom upgrades.
⚔️ The last boss recipe is The Divine Scarf which is among the best items in the game and reasonably easy to craft. This recipe should be gotten as soon as the task of beating nightmare Kruk on all characters can be completed. Earlier recipes are for armor and weapons most of which gives mob respawn significantly improving kills per hour. Get these if you can afford to craft them.

[solar seal]

recently updated and jazzed up

[bleak gazelle]

nice and new as of the other day

[tropic birch]

Ty

[icy stone]

yea true

[solar seal]

curious what you'll do for w6. cause i know what i'd put but interesting to see what others might do

[icy stone]

I mean I persnally had lustre when I got in but maybe troll

problem is are we talking gear to beat w6?

[bleak gazelle]

Nah, W6 gear is just troll as a minimum since that upgrades to everything else

[solar seal]

you can prob add a tiny note at top of w6 saying just "start of" cause we don't have a boss yet.
personally - i would do full troll for w6. its hard but it really is the best to put

[icy stone]

yep

[nova lynx]

guess I need to start working on Troll gear

[bleak gazelle]

gotta get them clogs

[solar seal]

lustre is a stop gap for bad geared alts at best - cause you do'nt need damage at start of w6 so gear is semi-irrelevant

[bleak gazelle]

them twine

all them starfires