#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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good luck tomorrow
bundles wont pay themselves
4 coin flips

only 1 orange
literally 0 bro what
i start off with 2
what u get from it
uhhhh
what chain
dogshit chain
LOL
literally end me bro what
140k off +1 slab
https://i.imgur.com/Rvt7WMY.png
pog
do u wanna run some more or nah
lemme swap to vman rq then
bro what is this
what bubbles cant you atom?
the w6 ones i believe
Is there documentation for obols anywhere? Like which will become squares etc? Doesnt seem to be on wiki
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Obols#STR_Obols-0 first thing you see on the page lol
I am fucking blind lmao, ty
I didnt see the seperate tabs lol
theres a full list by shape near the bottom as well
buddy im late w8 you're still stuck in w5 get better L + ratio
@strong shale ur still running?
yea
Can I join next run
stronk
actually imma leave
I’m figuring out my equinox
:(
no i meant
Oh ok
the run i was in
I’m hopping on💀
lowgun do i want everybody with a scarf
divine?
i wish
So how do I make my poison one shot citringes now
show talent tab 4 page
yeah u should get 10 scarfs on everyone
got all my mages printing 1b+ oak logs 
should bring my atoms up tremendously
I got my first print of 1m this morning @strong shale
you roll them when they are silver.....and make sure to put it on the left one
you roll 1 when it's silver, and put it in the left slot, the right slot doesn't matter
Ohh ok thanks
dont' waste rolls when it's gold
I didn’t know it transferred
Looking on the guidesheet it recomends to have 2x DK, SB, and ES. What is the use of the 2nd copy of all of these?
to not fuck yourself
1 sec if you aren’t asleep yet
I rolled all of them💀💀💀💀
that's cause your team noob
Real
Why would you want a 2nd ES? What stacks?
I don't think anyone recommends a 2nd bubo lmao.
you get to link 2 gods on 2 chars
I had a second bubo
and it's one of the best afk farmers
Hold'up, I didn't think of that. 👀 Anything else?
Log prints
Harriep+Arctis/Goat
Yeah that’s basically second link
Solid points.
Or be like me who has doot which makes all gods active @peak verge
step one. put towers. step 2 upgrade towers. step 3 win
like specifically wave 50 citric conflict
actually ill set up my cc farm first 💀
Simple Wave 50 Citric Conflict Guide
Levels:
Boulder Level 32+
Stormcaller Level 23+
Kraken Level 20+
Party Level 20+(Not sure about the actual minimum levels, I used level 29 which is definetly more than needed)
Void Level 1+
Salt Lick: Maxed
Cannoli Meal: Level 12+
Equinox: Unneeded
Atom: Unneeded
Traits:
Boulder B
Party AA
Stormcaller A
Kraken B
Void B
Guide:
Start with the 3 Boulder towers immediately, then place towers according to order.
Voidinator must be timed to place at the Wave 30 Gigao to remove its colour, if not your run is screwed
You may also try to time your Hunters ability to stop the Gigao from teleporting such that Voidinator can hit it, although idk if it will work or not
Hunter is the best class to do the TD, although using other classes is also completeable
Extra Krakens can be placed if needed
Ok done idk what am i doing tbh
why do i feel my gaming progress slowed down after i get squirrels?
i dont know how to get to 1T milestone easily
Ngl it just kinda... happens.
Keep upgrading your stuff in order and pray for a better nugget.
omfg, i just used a candy to level my fishing, and i blasted past my vman level fml
lol
i don't mean like, a little bit...i mean by like 17 levels
anywhere i can put this btw
how on earth did you candy that much
oh hell nah not the 1 damage in my hh
i went from 50 fishing to 82...lol
How much exp will candying on your vman get you? Or do you not have that great efficiency on it?
i used 1, 24hour candy on my bb he went from 51>85 because i just unlocked the fishing island...
my vman gets 30m/hr.....i got 5.5b on my bb fml
k wellllllll guess my vman livs in fishing for weeks
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
do i max out loot pile capacity before leveling up exp gain or do i level it to some extent and then exp gain
Imo max first
is there a sheet on when i should upgrade snail? i got to 22 and it feels like i can't rly go past it
can i 1/2 shot moles with 35mil dmg on my DK?
with decent talent level more or less yeah
how much would you say is decent
what is your max talent level in library
i maxed it first
What are the ways to bump talent max level on the library? Got 20d on a candy and wnet from 247 to 319 and and have toons of spare points in tab 1 and 2
Pet roll... drum roll
what do you mean? you went from 247 -> 319 in max talent or in class lvl?
another molti 
Class level
Well what is your current max talent level?
Most my talent are at 150 max
a quick idleoninsight search shows this:https://idleoninsight.com/?search=book
Key ones will be Salt Lick, Fury Relic artifact from sailing, Rift Slug pet, W3 achievement (takes a long time). Maybe a few more?
Search every bonus in Idleon!
ES family bonus. Tab 4 talent 15 on all elite classes (not jman/mman/vman)
scolibot list all the different ways you can increase book level and max talent levels
Oh I didnt know that tyvm
Oh yeah I forgot about that segment
149 atm i think
any more bonuses on extra regenrate levels?
therea re tons, and your rates are low
thats why i asked smh
stamps, cauldron
might be a issue of i never purchased any gem shop
decant level, stamp, sigil
just drop all that liquid you have into regen right now
not really at your stage
im just active ccing and abusing the equinox
what am i talking
doesn' t the equinox give less
it gives a certain percentage
yea but you're active af, that doesn't make sense, unless i read the equinox wrong
yea to me that reads like you're getting 1/10th of what you would get if you just upgraded it yourself. i could be wrong though
it's like an insurance thing if you're afk or forget or whatever
yeah if you can decant it manually its always most efficient
equinox boost is only good when you get it to 99%
you thought you were abusing, but you were getting abused
also any tips on this
higher bubble and talent as always
salt lick helps for water
and 200 tenteyecle if you dont have it yet
is 199 tent good enough
before i had 200 tent my record is 49 seconds
where are you CCing
citringes
also might be an issue of my poison 2 shotting only
what your aura max lvl ?
6 aura
would be nice if you can get it to reach 210 for +1
im afraid not my tent is fully maxed at 201
what level is your bubble
114
does your hotbar look like this
cc swapped with raise dead
are alchy and mana po box maxed ?
way too low
this no
Does Mantra not work with the goat god? I have 6 toons with Mantra, goat god, and in the lab. The others that arnt in the lab are not gaining any div xp
i knda slacked on my po
getting your po done and working on the bubble will help you get better cc
just ignore PO and let atoms take care of it 😛 thats why i have 30k pens just sittin not being used lol
30k rookie number
im trash! you should know that by this point
i barely have more than 10
sitting at 151k with collider burning some everyday :3
myriad sitting at 19990 currently
might me an issue with my depressing dr(only had emperor card on rn)
!mantra
Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.
In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.
(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)
i can get up to 8x when i stack everything
Thanks!
did you farm your obols ?
i did the family tab
you'll probably want to do a personal tab for your active farmer too
where hex and sparkles
not made yet
do pristine charms have levels
Yes, but do nothing
i think biggest i've heard of in recent times is ~4B
if you leave w4 town and use eggs, you can. i'm not sure if you have to start with an empty nest or not though
everything's big gains until you realize you're out of reach for the next 50 upgrades you want 🙂
towards end of gaming, the only gains that are left are 1) nugget gamba and 2) 25 snail lottery
that's the whole reason to play the game
this game is great cause there are so many scaling vectors....honestly it's overwhelming
gaming is not a fav for me though. too cyclical in bursts? I guess
I feel like I need this (+50% bits per 10 total waves) or snail or a magic nug hit when I don't even have the equinox dream for nug gains. But when saving up 2B green bits took over half a week, these all seem not tangible lol.
oh it's definitely only fun right now, cause i just got shovel last week. and i was getting like..a few mill now i'm getting trillions
lotsa upgrades the last few days, so i guess i see what you're saying
but i like the step ladder up vs consistent gains
it feels like an upgrade, vs you gradually getting better-without noticing
the nice thing about w5 skills (outside of divinity) is that there are definite 'end points'. so there's a finality to them
yea sailing is nice in the same way... you race race race untill you get the thingy, then the ancient...
Yeah and I guess for me, I don't even feel like I know why some of my step ladder improvements come so it's just like "oh randomly I get power jump" rather than even slow drip feed like alch where I understand I'm pushing bubble levels slowly
not sure how long the fury? eldritch? takes
I'm still opening up islands and sneaking is slow'ish, so I don't have to worry about 3rd or 4th tier artis for a while
just got this today so i'm happy
im already done with gaming
i don't even know what that is, so happy with that
it is the bane of most people's existence
See I don't have anceint, but I felt like this artifact didn't give me nearly as big of a gain in bits as I expected
aww yis
why do peeps be snailing even after done with gaming? Just in case there's new additions?
and now we wait
fear of superbit page 2
that's fair
game has coded in purple and blue bits... if its coded, means lava can always add it
getting purple bits for self achievement
can also finish leveling kattle's blessing
Aah forgot bits for div blessings. ANd yeah I was curious how far IdleOn would take the tiers that he used in Idle Skilling
5* solar dmg is still haunting me cause I don't want to active spelunking enough to finish for my trophy
kek idle sklling. active spelunking was the worst
ugh
Think it's the only thing stopping me from getting my stupid trophy lol. Way too much time wasted to get as far as I am in spelunking/construction. But feels bad trying to min/max those like 5 second cyclings between the dig loop and construction page lol
don't remind me, i still have to finish that
IS did help me early on with gems and w3 packs tho 
in IEautoreview tool, what are these tiers mean exactly?
Tiers are usually tied to early/mid/late world X prog. Some sections have more than 18 tiers though because there are interim steps in those sections. So you might have tier 15 stamp at early w5 but tier 17 for mid w5 after you clear tier 15 because tier 16 is an easy farmable stamp but tier 17 is a harder questline stamp or something
its jsut a way to break it up. to give you an idea of roughly where you are for that world expecations. like Tee said, early mid late
The main thing to focus is the world progress section it's tied to
also helps make it less daunting to some
and completing log book in the process
How do you have t7 chem before so many others? Just from chem chain farming?
Anyone know why my pab traits disappear when i switch to another char with bear divinity?
Possible that some characters are right on the edge of connection range, going to the lab and moving the slider left and right can normally fix that.
Or if you have doot, make sure everyone is div level 2
When skilling up my Maestro, should I put +str or +luck on his mining gear?
Ugh, was hoping to wake up to a fury relic lol, still no luck. On the bright side though, almost have a second boat fast enough to move it over 🥳
Strength for the eff, luck would only give you the tiniest bit of skill xp through various talents, either way, shouldn't be super noticeable i'd think
Where would be the best place to farm pens and what cards?👀🫶🏼
yeah since harvest all doesnt harvest chems
i have some chems just sitting at the corner and keep evolving
DK > W1 beans or W2 sandy pots > cards something like this, important ones are genie/poop in those spots for card doublers, rest are just whatever DR you have
Bet thanks mate
this is also the same for statue farming that comes from crystals, can check 📌 here or in w3 chat. ideally you want at least 10x DR
same for dice obols from w2, also
Yeah my DR is fine, I’m just so far ahead and haven’t even done a lot of the basic stuff and now find myself not wanting to retrace just to clear certain things 😅
I think if I can push pet battle soon to get starfield skies I can get omega nanochip in time when it comes out in 3 weeks 👀 That'd be nice to do. Then choco chip in October. Ooh maybe I'll be ready to start throwing my DK at some stuff by then lol
I think by doing that I'll also be prepped for omega motherboard which would be out end of Oct
Also, is there a better way to stack/optimize inventory with samples? This ain’t cutting it for me
What's not working with that?
I ain't there yet, but I thought that was how you did the multi 1b stacks in bank
Separating them just so I can maxfill them and then stack
whats the point doing that?
It just seems tedious especially when atom procs without it being on
So I can continue getting more into my inventory
The scaling skills that give X per power of 10 oak log banked, etc.
why would you ever need 5 stacks of tropilogs?
oh i see
For atom
????????????????????
As soon as I stack them they disappear
lol
But what does 5b tropilog do for you?
you can get atoms before you get atom collider
Atoms.
you do'nt need to save them until you unlock it
If you have a stack of 1050m, the rest convert ot atoms lol
oak logs > other any logs for atoms
Who is having resource issues before unlocking atom collider? I was hella slow at it and def was not even above 250m oak banked before i got atom collider
They convert to atoms after 1050 lol
yes... by becoming atoms
Yeah but….
my man. storage caps at 1050. anything above gets converted to atoms at rate of 10M : 1
Oh fuck
you do'nt manually make atoms
you set a threshold -> they get converted automatically
That’s dope! So you’re telling me I been separating them for no reason?
Tbh it seems like I get atoms faster this way tho
But they get converted regardless even with collider off
set threshold in atom to 1050 and turn it off
Yeah, only reason to turn it on is if you’d want a cap other than 1050 for whatever reason
that way if you ever swap devices, you don't suddenly lose everything you have in storage
you separate oak logs and copper later on if you want ot min/max those power of 10 skills
oak = the 1 true king of atoms
is there a max cap for power of 10 skills? 1b?
Don’t think so
No cap.
Bank space is the cap I guess lol
but thats why there's an atom that increase your power of 10
Okay so, this brings me to another question; do I keep these for whatever reason? They’ve been taking up too much space in bank
only keep rainbows for stamps
And the green ones right?
i didn't think i needed to specify that but yes
You didn’t but I just had to make sure😅
fair
yeah w6 and all mystery stones you should keep
What's the best divinity build for my ES? Considering I got Doot.
i really need to clear out this stash 
max the first two on the bottom row. i'd probably start with the 2nd one if you only have one ES as that's an account-wide xp multiplier for div
first will just be ES-only div point increase
I finally beat the world 5 boss
Here's the W6 guide 
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1208108939313684621
get those w6 town quest done so you can start working on the new skills and power up your account
ah thank you
Assuming u are using Skilling Preset
armor stone C are used for a recipe, make sure you craft it for slab before selling all of your stones
Bruh
I sold them all already
they're super easy to get, it's fine
Should I be keeping construction or multikill obols?
you'll get some again before you need it
Get DR and you can upgrade construction obol to Max and give it to DK its fine early 🤷♂️
So the ones from the events aren’t the ones I’ll need?
multikill obols are safe to fragment
I thought construction obols only worked while active
Ye, already have DR obols, just wasn’t sure if I should be making a construction set for the DKs or if that’s not worth it
no, I'm pretty sure it drops from bosses
Kay bet
MK obols can be nice for early speedruns, you'll want to craft one of each type for slab, at least
make sure you equip and then check with slab to make sure it saves before upgrading it
Gotcha, thanks 🙂
cant wait to get my pc fixed, playing on a laptop sucks lol, i have so much shit going on on my screen :S lol
i dont wanna blow my laptop up lol
fair enough
my monitors are huge
and with idleon running 24/7 i dont wanna add any more stress if i dont have to haha
lul, this baby aura
lol
this was me when first trying active CC like wtf y'all talking about? bubo sucks
lul
that's with 59 points in it too, didn't realize it scaled so badly in the beginning
I think you need like 125 or something for "5 auras" which is when it starts becoming somewhat ok lol
iz rough life
orange is now at 1m cap
How to increase meat shank as a berserker? The library won't let me check out the book
green just needs 2.5 more levels
you can't, only way would be if you sub/elite swapped from a squire/dk
Ahh, thank you. I know I've seen people with high levels
Yeah you can book the xx Bottles talent to get higher Meat Shank / CritiKill / etc.
Just 300 more ghosts to go so I can clear out all these stupid DNA Splicers I have been hoarding 👀 will also be my first gs mob mat besides gmush spore caps lol
as someone broken the news to you about needing lots more of those ghost for gold cake ?
just the pearls 
ghost are just as bad as pearls lol (since its 10ghost per)
lava made ghost 10x easier to get, but we also need 10x more to craft XD
yep
Well at least by then my DR should be immensely better
I'm in the 5.X range for DR. Hopefully I'm like 15+ by the time I'm doing gold cake grind lol
cake are dr food, so once you reach 10k you can drop then on beanstalk and start farming toward the 100k
I think my DK can hit 31x DR but still not cake recipe drop 
I have 195 already, so close to 10k 
golden grilled cheese gonna for sure be my first 10k stack
yep and hamsters should be shortly after
yeah w5 and w6 arent that hard to get to 110k
after that it just depend on the food really
shortly?
I'm at like 7k grilled cheese and only 1.4K golden hampters
oh 
only one i have maxed is grilled cheese for now
i'm just thankful that my 10k golden ticket yolo worked out and gave me kebabs
my dumps are strong
1 nigiri 
That is pretty nice
So the +913% is already applied onall of those? And you get +913% whatever your held golden foods woulda been pre-w6?
i think so yeah
yeah, you can see if you compare with a warrior vs without (assuming you have tab 2 talent 10 leveled)
yeah tahts on my dk
Aah ok.
well well well
butter ?
turn up the brightness
starfire bar
butter would be better with that 69 imo XD
Later captains are much more. Use the siegebreaker 11th talent to boost loot if needed, and claim chests as often as you remember.
i thought that talent is really really bad to level if you check actively
As far as I'm aware, it's a good talent and haven't heard otherwise
It enables chests to level up, which is good, and it boosts gains from each chest. Also good
but it doestny let you hit your cap of chests
Untrue
and people say quantity > quality
You will still hit max chest slots
ive noticed having more chests wihtout that personally
I could see how it could be worse. If you claim often enough to never hit max chests, that talent could make you lose a chest by being a failed upgrade. (Idk if it even works like that though)
Personally I don't check that often so upgraded chests are worth it to me
What is sleep? It is 3:34am here
That's a w6 question
Ok I'll give you all of my stuff if you can survive till 6am
It reduces your max chest size by 1 and gives you 20 less chests from your returning boats
With SB Talent you can get a max of 29 chest and without you can get 50 chests
Unending loot causes you to be unable to "bank" finished sails. you stay at 1/2 potential chests found
Decent if you're going to be gone for a long time though 
Pog, second SB few hours away from 40 div, so excited for cat god lol, gonna lose a lab node though I think since I won’t have him active in lab anymore 😦
i'm finished sailing so I leveled it for the extra loot and sailing xp
and never check it again 
Just have them all sitting in gaming hoping they evolve
without chems to cycle through?
what's your speed at?
Any reason I shouldn’t be pushing rift as far as I can now that I’m starting to cycle chars out of lab? Haven’t even started on it yet 😅
mostly just depends on damage
first two bonuses are kind of w/e, nice but nothing to write home about
Fair, I was mostly looking at like skill mastery and stuff like that
Got so many bonuses I can get if I unlock that lol, that and was hoping I can get close to eldritch artifacts now that my boats are getting better
here are the first 15 challenges. ideally you want multikill damage on the afk kill ones
is divinity like lab where you have not be 'active' to get xp?
Yeah its basically lab2.0
Once you get like the 4th god though i believe they can go in lab and get exp (or be active?) for both divinity and lab
Even with Tran-Qi style, you don't get Div and Lab progress as long as u are active
@bleak gazelle want the cold from here?
Damn, yeah I easily have multikill on all that lol, got another summoning win so pushing closer to 2b damage now 🥳
Wdym, daily auto trap claim is one of the best QoL unlocks in the game
It’s only once a day tho on reset right? I collect mine all day lol
Buddy is Santa's neighbor
Yeah. I'm the type of person who never claims anything unless there's a flashing red exclamation (: so it's too good
Fair lol. Started to second guess myself and wonder if I should be doing 24 hour traps instead or something lol. I collect mine every 3 hours rn
If it weren't for the spice collect star talent I would have 4 spices (:
It's 5th not 4th, and no active, still must be afk
damn....i looked at the screen for nothing all the time...kinda triggered XD
once a day QoL and you can easily get around it by just logging into BM once. It's "nice" but doesn't do much else
and infinite star signs are basically useless until you get shinies
we also pretty much need to suffer the 20min traps if we want to realistically cap the vials
I wish there were trap presets, that’d be nice, be able to quickly change between 20 min while able to play then swap to longer ones for at work or sleep or w.e without having to manually go through and do it every time
i gave up swapping traps. they stayed 20min traps until i was done
Haha, that’s why I sat on 3 hour ones, seems the best balance between getting a good amount of checks in and decent quantities for when I’m at work/sleep
Gonna switch to 20 mins once I start on the bubo and make my alch push though I think
How rare are the 100% gods in divinity? I’ve been in w5 for a week and I had 3 100% already
Not that rare
The challenge isn't getting teh 100%, the challenge is getting enoguh points to utilize the 100%
ace, you mean you don't freely have billions of points just lying around to reroll? :3
nah, i spent most of my lab time on goat to catch up
hit rank 22 on orange salt today and green is at like 18.5
should be zoomin pretty soon
wookie where w7 😠
If my 50% on goat doesn’t hit tomorrow im going in depression mode
The pain will never go away
me who got it with 1% 
I’ve missed 4 10% so I’m saving for the Coinflip of 50%
i remember hitting at least one god on a 1%, wonder if I can find what it was
couldn't find it 
Chamarok pendant - > mages
Bludgeon pendant - > Warriors/Archers/Vmans
^is that right?
specifically unsure about vman
Not if you are in w5 - everyone should be in upgraded chiz scarves
even if i used all my keys every day wit highest possible DR i could get i would be lucky to get one
my BB made it to kattlekruk door in dementia :((
If you are getting all 10 daily keys and killing slush weekly, you should have more than enough keys to farm chizoar
5 day wooden trap gang
i got 117 keys, been hoarding them until i had decent droprate, but im not expecting more than maybe 2
we hate looking at trapper drone
we love leaving our dk afk all night in the wrong talents
Siegebreaker sailing build ?
im guessing early xp is best xp
not sure tho
Unsure what you are asking exactly. Avoid unending loot if you can check your sailing often enough. Otherwise just ensure talent 12+13 are maxed on one of your sb at all times
any way to calc what my library to 20 time would be if i maxed out the cons building?
There’s not really much to it
yuge, +60% upgrade
nice
man, this has taken forever
Kinda lost, so should I max 12 then 13?
dang those are cheap
Or split between those 2
well, IT shows all your bonus levels, could just...pretend to do some math and come up with a number
i love just watching the cons exp number go up slowly https://i.imgur.com/zZAYjeN.png
.45 .46 .47
I wanna pinchy that
what's your xp% at?
i got a new crop plot 
oh, maybe cause i deposited 1m red salt
exp doesnt get effected by that
no, my build rate 
sov fury 🙃
oh my fault lolol
wish i had a golden watch to try and level my snail again
Build rate changes based on which character you check it on. Idk why kinda weird. That could be part of it
you got construction obols? 
it still changes
Construction obols belong in the trash
Warrior Rule should not affect that Carpenter Bubble anymore
I don't really know what thay means but I do know what I said is still true
BB just get more con xp showed on the board. That's all it matter
oh mine prob changes becuase of obols my bad
idk it went from 9.4b to 11b to 9.7b to 9.5b
Zakly
Only Con Obol does. After I slab them I change those to DR obols.
idk
i checked 9 of my chars and mine only moved when I checked on DK with obols
bcs that's how con obol works
yes, I know 
i was just saying I didn't have anyother fluctuation with other characters
@bleak gazelle colder now here
that do be chilly
my man has had 2 hot takes today that i've seen and both have been terribly wrong. i'm starting to suspect you don't have the right info
yea ace wth are u doin
@strong shale want the cold from here?
i would love it
Can you tell Santa I want a red rider for christmas
hey, i said chilly, not cold
I am in Australia not the North Pole
X to doubt
Sydney is in Australia not the North Pole
It's been proven Australia isn't real
how many flurbos does it cost to max a non-dungeon stat?
toolbox shows it
6785 from level 1
if i have a print, and go print, then get a smaller print, does it overwrite?
nah i dont think u can downgrade a sample unless u delete it
or else sampling fishing would be hella annoying
hidding in a place we dont want to visit
for vman speedruns i sample all the mats i want before i go in the speedrun so i dont accidentally misclick
yea cause i'm not paying attention and that is a trap
wdym
also beeg fish https://i.imgur.com/zq0Z3BR.png
too bad it wasnt the blue/black ones
Poppy is too much work
dang, that's some 5head move there
one more quest GS done. these are so annoying
this happens so often 😔
go smack the tree
plat axe required 
go work on your chopping 
literally skill issue
yeahj
is it understandable to not ever be relevant at 4th frog at rank 35 dungeoning
ever happy hour rolls around and i just get owned by those green guys
yeah basically
think it's in reference to the pink breedability trait
i put them in fenceyard, but i lowkey have no clue what they do
i assume they help their specific breed get better numbers?? idk
helps increase new pet odds
this number goes up over time
no matter what breed the pink is?
and it's this specific upgrade 
breedability of pet x = increase odds of getting pet x+1
Each pet has their own breedability multiplier
oh its slow.. i put them in fenceyard and expected immediate output, that confused me
thanks!
if you have more of same ones, it goes up faster
by time i finished w4 breedability, i can actually see my 1 in ___ odds unmber dropping in real time
yeah mine goes sloow
huh, oops. forgot this SB i'm on had unending loot on his combat preset 
always funny seeing your boats fly in from off screen
lava skull rifts are the worst
just use sb done
nice u got tusk 1st
yea
sb seems to be working, i'm lazy so we'll see if i can active it in an hour or so
sb should be super easy if ou have vman enhancement since you basically never run out of mobs
just make sure if you're doing skulls, you probably need it on multiple characters. if you're doing skull points then sail ahead
Damn,with Shiny snitch prayer,so much shiny
What rift is construct mastery,41?
Ohhh,so rift 36 is vial mastery,right?
which way should i be going in seraph?
up has more sneaking stuff on that first branch and gets you to the large node which is quite nice
going further up that path has DR and Mk/tier
Going left at the bottom gives farming xp and OG chance, base stats, gold food bonus, and total damage
i'm just missing one sign on green and red and 3 on blue
give me a bundle god dammit I'm trying to give you my money lava
Just want these phoenix wings T_T
nvm you were right i just spent 17 keys and got a blankie lol
how
DK
Dammit I don't have enough lads now to craft my next scarf
just unlocked sovereign artifacts, time to not get any from sailing!
i was thinking about this earlier today. should i just try to open w6 instead of using my best dude to backtrack thru like, 1-3

I get molti the most
So many beans
Last week was sandy pot for me
wow, cogtimizer found me like 20% more build and +28% more XP. I hadn't run it in a while.
Wtf wrong w my bubo dog?
That actually works?!??
yeah, it's the best
just gotta be careful with it, not sure it works with player xp% cogs
and only 24 steps tonight
your ideal setup is just to get something like this going eventually
it is pointing them at my dudes, so seems to be working, even made me move my dudes a bit
yea do the catching up on w6, the skills on w6 are pretty damn good and timegated so...
That’s literally me lol
My iPad just died as I tried to SS it but I’ll show u
if anything it will make the catching up easier...though I suggest getting atleast Nobisect so pushing isnt painful 
if you're somewhere close to the damage for boss, then yes, you'd want to push, if you're far away, then backtracking is fine as it should be backtracking to help you push damage
just remember that player xp and bonus xp are 2 seperate counters, which makes player xp way more valuable since there are fewer sources of it
I'm lvl 299 on my higher DK, 295 on the second, so close to the equinox cloud
Nobisect on the Pusher [If ES use Snakenhotep and have Nobisect as 2nd Link] + Arctis/Goharut on Everyone else for Killer Brightside in Lab
If you have Fibers of Abscence prayer use it too
I got roughly 15k kph with a 30m damage ES with this setup without the mob respawn merit 
well, Fauxory Tusk as my first Sovereign, don't mind if I do!
I feel you brother
these are my stats for the first map
what's your max sheet damage at?
with killer brightside and nobisect?
we don't talk about the dk 
Well, levels will be a decent chunk of damage, as well as all of this
Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, artifacts, divinities, W1 owl, W2 kangaroo, dungeon flurbos, and talents are all sources of damage
For alch and stamps, backtracking to get better skilling to get better prints would be useful.
I'd probably focus on that type of backtracking and avoid going for too much card/DR farming though. Easier to do that after W6
what class are you using?
that screenshot is on an active spec'd ES
ok
first
Book the Wizard talent that gives damage per stamp you have
Unlock the stamps you can easily get from w1-w3
On another preset add some points on the talent that looks like a Vial this increases overclock
On the main preset max out the increased cap Overclock
book damage talents as well, battleaxe,gilded sword, mage talent that gives more damage per WIS, mage talent that gives more damage from weapon power
it is sort of the foundation for all damage and skilling
145 is huge
for context my ES was 4m before booking then got to 12m back in w4, only had 130 books back then
i've got 10 more lvls from salt lick, and im only like a quarter of the way thru chekout takeout
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message - i try to stress to people how much of an impact skill levels makes. this post shows you just numerically what you miss out on by not booking your skills
and i guess i dont have the sailing artifact? but that one seems a little unreasonable rn
Damage* what’s wrong with my bubo damage?
Pretty sure for bubo u needa have every talent on the bar for kph its so bad
idk man, you literally only gave us a single piece of info 
Also u got fibers of absence on
the afk is low cause 30% survivability
wtf didn't even notice that 
also yea, wtf using fibers
either take off balance of pain or more food. assuming you're wanting afk kills
🦅 👀
5 sovereign artifacts, not bad for just getting them unlocked
Main went up in damage again @strong shale
yeah, first 5-6 islands fly by, it's kinda fun
I unlocked a new island too today @bleak gazelle in sailing
Me stuck on sov fury for god knows how long 
I should focus on speed on sailing right? I wanna rush to fury
Yes
I thought fibers was good 🫣
100k is massive though damn
fibers can be good, but you have to check
can multiple chacters do sneaking?
using fibers blindly when you are in MK tiers is bad idea. if you can't MK at all, you can use it blindly but not in conjunction with MK
it's probably fine for your damage tier
Gotta unlock those chars in higher floors
I used about 20m gold ore upgrading bubbles today
You just need to find and untie them
Here then
https://the_gapple.idleonefficiency.com/
nunchuk - door, kunai - free other characters
okay okay I get it thank you
are you specifically going for afk pushing?
Not specifically
its hard for me to accept how good book levels are when most of my characters dont have great talent points to begin with (especially in tab4
)
I was active afk when I sent yall that
donut can get mob respawn? interesting
by the time you are at kruk, you will be around ~230-250 with enough points for tab4 to make a difference
Dungeon Flurbo gives +50 tab points on ALL tabs if you can get that btw.
Theres a W3 tier Alchemy Bubble that also gives talents on ALL chars
I forgot dungeon exists, is dungeon important?
yeah i got a bunch of talent points from dungeon today!
Ye I said the same thing it’s why I kept
is there anything in this game that isn't important?
48/50 from that
Runes
Anvilnomics
wtf are runes
I trashed two pages of them yesterday
obols?
upgrade stones? are you high to think stones are useless?
saying that to gapple btw
I'll never be able to balance out my account at this rate
The ones I trashed were
90% of upgrade stones are useless though
@bleak gazelle is my witness
+1 slab
you can't categorically say they are bad cause now they are useless to you. if you used them to prog at all, they were useful to you
How is bubo supposed to level up quickly? I'm running the same setup I ran on everyone else so far in terms of gear and xp gain. Everyone blitzed from 100 to 150 in like 2 hours, meanwhile Shaman is at 140 after like 5-7 hours.
I… didn’t though
for obols should I focus on drop rate ?
Yep
DR or skilling your pick
active play
It's all active play.
This I learned recently. Like an hour ago recently
Does DR affect mob prints or nah?
Why would it
My mman got from 1k to 1.7k spores which is aint nuff for refinery
for XP, you want crystals and XP cards, it's all about the crystal mobs at least in my limited experience. After all, I AM an idiot who doesn't know his colors
I need more spores...also 5k/h sand...god I love refinery speed
my family page is coming together slowly 
theres no way im getting 2.5k sand when I cant even go past 1k on gigafrog horns
how far away from VMan are you?
very
mman doesn't have the tools for the big mob material prints. those are all vman talents - so don't expect anything big from mman
oh
- starsigns
- keychain/trophy doubler chips
- work on skills to get better tools for better runes for more stats
- you have a 1.3b oak print, which means your bleach should be pretty good too so you can hourly click your wisdom bubble
- flutter/kruk god blessings could use some levels
which class do u guys use when candying hampters
kek I started leveling mman to 150 today I should get vman in...a week or so, 12m spores done thankfully
how much 1m kills w1-3 uve finished?
@charred hollow
candying is whover gives most kph
you are better off doing mob prints with hunter/bm at this stage
like...7
Make sure you get 1m of each monster of worlds 1-3 @teal granite
yeah I did the 1k gigahorns on BM
I need to redo my sampling, but I don't wanna 😭
make sure to move your shrines if they aren't in w5 so you make use of the time
Time to steal everything from @zinc torrent account now
ty forgot about them
should be easy...do I have to do that on all chars 
i hv nothing xd
i'm assuming you already have the w6 shrine buff btw
Can be on any
I have my chars on lab rn...
yea there in w6 rn gonna move for a bit
Got it, thank you maestro 🫡🫶🏼
would be faster to do it on everyone though right?
Was there a card farming guide anywhere?
Debating between lab prison and vman
yes
cdr - dr - any card u wanna farm
just keep killers brightside on in lab
or do u meant cdr snapshot switch to dr card set
I'm interested for the skilling cards, not the mob ones.
oh nah forgot im dootless... was thinking of both nobi and killer brightside
vman + time (candy)
i do those on vman
imma do it on BB for zows instead
Rip
I did it on all about 2 in each level so went faster that way
I cant get killer brightside if I do it on all though, I can get nobi
ye know what
screw it
everyone except ES on nobi ES gets snake and nobi ill push with everyone 
monke together strong 
come back home after 6 hours of active farming
idek if vman will be worth it that early on 
My refinery will die if I dont do it
a lot of vman power requires account progress, opposed to mman being mostly skilling
gotta get the chows
Red salts starting to ramp up big time 
VMAN just got upgraded to Crakled Skull Destroyer from Kuckle Sabers
Is there a difference in doing CC with a staff vs a boxing glove?
Bubo dosent know how to rotate between platforms
use stingers. it makes a big difference
only in that you drop aura on top of the mobs
it makes all the difference
Not like I had enough damage originally anyways but ok
I'll try citringes again since I think poison one shots them now
Pineapple apparently.
https://cursed_koga.idleonefficiency.com/
i can barely get 100 food
It'll be the first seed. The wiki can help in seeing where specific plants are
Why do all of my islands have the same minimum time ?
bro ftp farming is so bad bro someone buy me a bundle lmao
that's just how the mechanic works
It's the minimum for all islands...
because 2 hours is the default minimum travel time (and minimum visual time)
Oh .. regardless of the speed of my ship ?
speed just determines how far you can get within that minimum time
So it’s pointless that all of my ships have 3k speed
Until you reach one far enough away to need 3k speed
each island is progressively further away. so more speed > more ideal distance > better ability to farm further islands
You generally place every ship on one island to get specific artifacts
Yeah
speed is good until 100M, which is current furthest island
If you have 3k speed, you try to send it to an island that's 3k meters away to get the most out of it.
Oh this is the norm? I do all ships on 1 island to focus on 1 resource
Ohhhh, thanks .. yeah I should unlock more islands than, thanks 🙂
I just got an ancient artifact that bumped the speed of my ship again to 5k lol
Er, actually 8k , so 8k means i could go to an island 8000m away at the minimum time ?
Around 16k actually. As the speed is per hour.
Was the distance for a 2 way trip?
Yeah, ideal distance is 2x boat speed when your minimum travel time is still 2 hours
I remember testing it. And coming up with that.
I'll check on tb
Thanks all 🙂
My travel time is 96 minutes, which is 80% of 2 hours. If i double my speed value, I'd get 24.6m and if I multiply that by 80%, I get 19.68, rounded to 19.7m ideal travel distance
decided to stop being lazy and finally start upgrading my armors
someday ill get purple dmg
you know, there's probably an easy path for you to get there - but you aren't goign to like the intermediate steps that i have in mind
does it involve using my pens and juicing my PO box? lol
nope, it involves another thing you don't like to do
samples
bingo
gah. i do need to sample. i managed to spend 30 seconds getting new oak prints but then i went back to doing nonsense
at least your atoms will thank you
Everything is oak logs and copper ores now
yeh thats why i really need new prints
!gear
i've hit my maxed boron stage, and boy is it nice
a lot of this is a little out of date. what info are you looking for exactly?
so close 
i'm still using rex rings
i have 2 of the dungeon ring, just wondering if there is something better/easy to get
invest in 1-2 tenacity rings - but don't spend more flurbo on rings and save for opals
yea gotta do equionx first
if you haven't boss gem farmed today, 300 kruks usually nets me around 1k ghampters
Mum not given me back my laptop yet after she took it yesterday
42 Speedrun, slowly getting there
is .1% still the play for gaming last evo
now I know I can't get pass Mr Brightside at my current stats, Void Raidius hit all of them and did not open the portal
yes
Me in w6 making my void gear
wtf lol
dang, jelly. i've been waiting for so long for a 100% on that one
2,859m will take me like 2week xD
ah I'm just crystal farming, almost done
this is the run
surely
i'm candying levels on vman so i can wear this damned trophy 
Royal Eggs constellation was underwhelming, maybe 20 seconds per character
also just used all my keys trying for a cape 🤷
how do i level breeding faster
higher level BM talent, spam eggs
few other bonuses too
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=breeding exp
Search every bonus in Idleon!
see egg? use egg. that's how you level breeding ;3
i wonder if I can hit 1b oak logs or if i should just wait
just go hit tree and check your afk
I would like to ask what is the minimum pet power required for 200 arena
I have full 12k or above
Looter/Rattler/Defender/Badumdum/Refiller/Borger?
rattler defender refiller looter badumdum borger
Looters like 12k, rattler 19.8k, Borger 14k
do you have alchemic?
no its a good thing. the comp becomes unstable if you have alchemic unlocked
Oh great
i would aim to get 1) 200 and 2) 115 on 4 done before you get alchemic if you can
What do I need for 115 on 4 then?
equinox challenge
I mean the comp
peapod looter refiller borger
^ can replace peapod w/ rattler but it'll be slower
Not like I have peapod
and you may need to restart a few times if you get bad start/rng on refiller procs
Anyways I just need the 200 for now
Wanna rack up my damage on bubo to one tap worms with my poison
the 200 bonus damage isn't its own multiplier, so don't expect anything crazy
Every bit matters
I'm working on my matching scams anyways
just wanted you to have realistic expectations
Speaking of matching scams I rolled for marble vial for 2 weeks straight already
yaaay

Did you farm those
surprised you didn't already farm for that
bro i haven't gone back to amarok in idek how long
kek. i mean the cards are worth it
Are vials pure rng
if you mean the discover? semi. make sure your p2w tab is maxed and drop lot of single stacks at once for your attempts
I did that already and didn't get the vial for 2 weeks straight
Marble
And yes I needed that bonus like right now
i was just asking out of curiosity - at that stage, everything is a 1% roll so /shrug
its painful that i have to afk 2 days just to get the bear god 😭😭
lets go 
congrats
altcow going hard
Anvil Tab 2 after chaotic amarok is pretty good
i somehow have the water before that many fibres 
oh you got tasks still
the accuracy struggle already
idk if i'm leveling my stamps too much or if this is normal
i mean tbf, my wisdom isn't maxed yet
i probably should have thrown some into strenght and luck to be more realistic
12 in defense. i love it
the true f2p experience would've been max str, 0 wis - then ask why you can't hit anything
i'm really strong but the monster won't die
but usually that lesson is learned by mafiosos or so, so i guess we can let it slide since you are on sand giants
you know what newbie mistake i definitely made? investing my early po box points in terrible, haphazard manner
here, i swapped to acc% card and am at 100%
the fact you are using cards already puts you at top 10% of new f2p
no, i expect people to use at least one card, the first one they see drop
and then forget the system exists
ok that's fair
mp is probably not terrible early
it was honestly kind of nice
@bleak gazelle you're confusing me. Some of your posts are end game stuff and others are begging stuff. What's going on
it's an alt account I created to try and see what the new player experience is like after all the recent changes, including owl and kanga
my main account is mid-late w6, probably mid-game progression wise
you are halfway throuhg skydoggies, give yourself more credit
yeah, but two of the remaining three characters I have to push on it are at like... 3rd map 
I should ruby amarok eventually..
i know i'm procrastinating getting skydoggies done, but everyone is sitting at ceramics at least :x
i didnt
pushing samurais in skilling talents yeah me too guys
Coulda had samurais unlocked on dk if i wasnt an idiot (2 days in a row)
doot problem smh
I really had to pee so i rushed my char back to minichiefs,changed my cards and set
what's worse. is that you were 2 clicks since specs are bugged rn
Didnt change talents, but my copper print 2x'd
i managed to push bm to samurais while doing shiny pets
You're built different
gdi, i keep forgetting to loot this other account
Bros got time candies irl he's hourly clicking
not that it's much cause damage is low, but still 
no, i mean autoloot
ram + no autoloot -> must create odd situations




