#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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mines trash. but still better than farming.
Summoning is also so rng
yea i just throw my 3 tries a day at it.
its gettin crazy tho. i want the mana regen that these bots have lol just constant waves of enemies from the jump. like bro whatchu got 40 energy /sec
i dropped down to m0 to try and get gloves but holy shit the DR on them feels worse than the first time around
bro it took me forever to get just a single pair of those gold gloves
cracked.
3 tries didnt score a single point lol
it's 4 gold, i can't 

slowly clicks the X on happy hour knowing I need rings and not done it in months.
Time to steal all materials in game from @tall horizon
Go for it, I have spares
I wanna know where @pastel kayak is gonna get all that stash space stealing everyones mats.
My own stash already maxed out for what i have room for
Going to use to level up bubbles and stamps
bold of you to assume i have materials
Says you have 82 green stacks bad @frigid swift
mk. got 5 extra portals on speedrun with full good prints... satisfied
new gloves were worth the 5k salts
nice nice
should make some easy work of a few vials
when i was in full damage build, i think it was ~3T?
fak me
i desperately need to level it though so it can wear divine scarf. will need to do that before i finish these 7 vials
mines so bad
still in green fists 
yeah i need to get mine to 450+, its sitting at 390 should just let it afk in w6
nullo salts are hard 😛
@solar seal time to steal all your mats in game now
im saving for troll sets
if you gonna steal something, steal ^ that for me
thats so little what you mean lol
don't make me show you how
my stack is
i need to math out how much nullo i need for a full troll set
its just under 10 for 1 full set
i think its like 8.5k or somethin
9+ something
damn., yea i need a lot more then
Sad that it goes from having none to having nothing to do with them
4k + 2.8 + 1.6 + .75 = 9.15
My nullo salt has been turned off / not producing for probably over 7 months now
i cant wait to turn mine off lol
let it just sit and forget about it until im ready to GS it
early game, people stuck on frosty souls... then mid game, people stuck on nullo salts.. i can't wait to be past this gear hump
phew, gstack nullo salts.. good luck
forgot the w2 bloaches lol
late game, guess its godshard bars
Will steal everything from @frigid swift storage and everything from @solar seal storage too in game
time to work on fishing :C
true true.. early game, bloach > frosty > nullo > godshard bars
i should stop being so neurotic and just make 1 divine set for slab
This looks like a free levell or two
I used allot of them to get a mage type to level 40 for mining to get to a star sign
What's the 4 pet arena team for equinox?
Oh ugh yeah I'm nowhere near peapod
apparently its that
ah fiddlesticks. my ES whole inventory filled with cooking clogs
you could say, your inventory got clogged up
ha
i did mine with a lot of rng luck with: rattler / looter / mono / refiller - but it took hours
not the worst
Is this full auto?
i assume its full auto but with skills pre loaded to 100%
pro tip. when farming mob mats for vials, be sure to not have them filtered
ah rip. i broke another GS
Oh hey I finally broke past 10x dr
yeah, this is kind of dumb, idk why he had tasks open at lvl 28 instead of 20 like they used to be
holy fark, you leveled your stamps. you are about 1000x ahead of those at your stage 
if you want true f2p experience, you gotta leave stamps at base level
said they wanted new player experiance but making endgame player moves
only the first 5 levels of what was auto unlocked and then the shop ones
this should help 
naw, you gotta never buy it or leave it at 5 max to get true newbie experience
hey now, i've talked to plenty of folks who've had it at 10-25
ok fine fair
lul, first vial requires a 1+ roll
he lures you in with amazing odds... then traps you into the 0.01% rolls
i suprisingly got most of the w6 ones on the first dya attempting then
w3-5 though was rough
you just got lucky
true, that's where all my doot luck went to
whats the reasoning for having more damage in home town?
Your DK refinery damage talent requires 1.5x mob accuracy to activate. No mobs in town, thus 0 acc requirement
ahh that would be it thank u
Ain looking ok and do I need to change golden food I am using?
this hurts a little.
Will steal it @frigid swift
i'd swap out movespeed pots with either sandwich or jam
went from 238k to 952k though. so now maybe i can afk for a whole hour before i max my inventory
game didnt save my wave i was on w140
but i got the prayer lol
i hate that i need to redo frosty for souls
sadge
I have found 5 crops @frigid swift is that bad?
better than 4
Better than 3
worse than 6
should i reset my talents and use then all on one step ahead for my first run?
for w5 boss? usually the right call, talent resets are plentiful at this point
i mean you've got two presets and most of the time you'll only be in your fighting preset during a speedrun or candying some levels
no reason it shouldn't be setup for that
right
running out of liquids to upgrade atom bubbles when using golden pocketwatch 😦
rip
hello, i just have a question concerning sailing: i just discovered the last cloud, do i have to remove every "cloud discovery speed" captains for other stats ?
that would be ideal whenver you can
swapping speed/loot or loot/loot is typically the play now
game is just trollin me now.
lul
we round down in this neck of the woods
does the dna splicer genes give you bigger pet power when hatching that pet?
or is that always based on egg rarity and BM talent
ty
primarily breeding level and BM talent. egg rarity only affects the highest you can roll, doesn't directly improve what you roll
i neglect the shit out of breeding. I just do new pets randomly since i maxed the arena bonuses. and hit shinies when i can
Does SB Sailing talents stack for 2 SB's
im unaware of any talents stacking across characters.
No
Happy now @bleak gazelle ? lol

man im only missing like 2 or 3 more prestines and they look huge.
Overgrowth, jade coin, and printer output
man i cant hit the power for the area i just unlocked 😦
gah why my printer wont go back to purple :C
nope on ES
already tried cloud saving, and restarting the whole game :C
Dooted and properly lit up
weird
For new spice, use 3 tsars 1 forager above to buff your team. Can replace with whales if you need less tsars
do you have two discord accounts in here? 
Check on IT instead, there's visual bug sometimes
Damn for a whoot whoot that's the sound de la police type of person ur nosy smh smh
Im on my phone. Its on a diff account and i cba to fix it
das illegal
Split personality disorder
When starting to upgrade snail from 10 + do I need atom snail upgrade lvl 3?
U need it at up to level 10
which should be level 2
oh then i can go ham on snail upgrade 😄 Iv got 29 snails
i will try this
thank you
If u reach 15 tho get it to level 3 before u keep going
All right, thanks!
@terse verge it worked thank you
ill just use this til it gives me the spice then leave it til i can get better pets
Nah i didnt get another lol, got another starsign doubler tho
Oh and pendant doubler coop
Cool* thatll do well for samples
You reckon i turn off my atom collider and just let my 3d samples stack for a night to upgrade their bubbles?
any god roo player?
so reset 1 mf3 60pts available how do i distribute points
0 blue 0 yellow 0 green 48 red 12 black?
u still hv cap item at 1050m
O
do u wanna atom range them to just use daily boron
just put it into atom range 
Did all the quests for the npc outside of boss room of world 2 and still have red question mark on it? What is rhe rare drop from the boss?
red ? just means you have no space to claim
Bags was almost empty and room in storage too
There is no more quest there
He just says something like stop bothering me and gives a red question mark
Made the world 2 boss gear for a quest what stat to put on them?
I have world 3 boss gear on my main
gears are so bad until u reach troll
which W5 gem purchases are permanent?
Is 10 million damage enough to kill w5 boss?
Should I use multikill obols for voidwalker?
Don't want to waste keys if not
Check pins
No
Es needs at least 30m and dk atleast 35m
K
Does someone mind answering this one for me? I see lots of consumables in W5 shop, I'm uncertain which are actually permanent if any
Green permanent, red consumable, purple upgrades stuff that can be found by just playing
I forgot how slugs work. I think not all are needed to get max chest cap, but might be wrong
Hello 
Time to steal every thing from your storage in game now @teal lynx
how do i give pirate porkchop these sailing gold bars
How do I speed this up? 
If you have them from sailing, you just talk to him.
Gotta check the pile on the character you wanna complete it on so it "updates" how much currency you have. Had the same on my ES.
how can you be bad at alchemy
There's nothing affecting your vial unlock chance, so that's just yolo assuming you didn't neglect your P2W tab.
Wdym by speed otherwise?
Anyone? 
Level the blessing of Arctis + Harriep. Get as many points as you can in the ES Polytheism skill and try to work on sailing / your slab if you already got the sailing artifact
Other than that idk
Artifact from sailing won't fucking drop reeeeeeeeeeee.
Ty for reminding me of Arctis and Harriep tho. Good stuff.
sad, i got the other one on the island for sigils.....so sad
there is no way to reduce anvil crafting cost right ?
No way to reduce them unfortunately
Are you stuck on salts? Then the Omniphau divinity god could help you progress your refinery 
im planning to craft troll gear now
and i need 91500 of the last salt 
and i see what he does now, should i just bind everyone on him ?
Depends on what your characters are doing currently. You still want to have your Lab lit up
So if you have an important goal that involves people being outside of Lab I would consider only 1-2 omniphau
If you want to go full ham you could bind Omni to all of them. Then one guy active farming other materials for the gear / statues + gold food / pushing the world if needed
all of them sitting in lab right now xd
most of them is connected to goharut
Ah on goat then. I love my goat links 
Then sure. If the salt is the only thing holding you back it isn't a bad idea to put most/all of them on Omni
Also can help you improve sailing or get some more Atoms if you don't get the refinery proc
true
time to take a break from divinity then, i also only need bagur so thats ok i guess
So ive just got the ashen urn from sailing but my divinity gain hasn't gone up at all? Have I done aomthing wrong or does it not display it?
What class should my 10th character be?
Whenever you get a new artifact, you need to reload the map to have the displays be updated
Most recommendations would be for a 3rd archer to prepare for w6 godshard bar needs.
SB or BM?
If you want, since new classes are prob only a few months away - you can leave it as a beginner and keep it a lab slave until we know how meta will shift
Generally sb over bm - but like i said - i cant predict how meta might shift
alright, thanks. beginner lab slave it is
This guy worth taking?
Yeah since I think every ender captain gives a buff? Idk haven't unlocked it in emporium yet
Yea it gives a loot buff, for all, but this ender captain is just so terrible
no other stat matters in the long run, so stack the ender captains when u get them
when another tier comes out you will want the buffs they offer
i just unlocked w5 do you guys have a priority list that u can give me as well as gem purchases for w5
second pin
tyy
yea okay thx
can someone explain how ur meant to kill 3 things without killing the others on warrior
I do it without skills and auto,is off
take off your weapon and just click
yeah i figured it out
my dk isn't placing a second knightly disciple until the first one runs out even though there should be overlap, anyone know why that might be? the skill comes off cooldown and he just doesn't cast anything until the other disciple dissapears
i think my hotbar is optimized too - orb, intervention, disciple, boomerang, slash, strength
it lets me place 2 if i manually click
nvm its working now
i think alchemy isn’t increasing my dmg anymore 
it is if your doing it correctly
i still get bumps in alch and most of my people are at like 140,000m or so
This gave me a massive bump
Following a guide for divinity, it's taking quite some time
Stating the obvious I know
div do be slow. its basically Lab 2.0
what bubble
also wym correctly? i just upgrade the bubbles that boosts my str and damage
Im about halfway throgh w5 is there any armor i should change
Chizoar, void at the very minimum
And work towards troll armor
do you run midas minded for afk hampter farming if you can still one shot the mobs? because multikill doesnt affect amount of drops right?
im not doing active ES, i said afk
@strong shale unlocked book thing in lab so I redid samples on my miners and can print more now
Nice!!!
That
How does Harriep link stack with the lab bonus, are they an additive bonus or multiplicative?
multi, so you'll get 6x. Color should be purple in lab
awesome, ty
WTB purple :C
Cant wait to crystal farm today 
Why
Vial
I don't have Choco so my statue farming is trash atm, I just want my power statue 
Yea imma try and maximize my carry capacity before i statue farm for that vial
I wanna have greenstacks in my inventory 
i did a new bag last night. so i can hold 1m bean slilces per slot
Finally 2k killroy kills. Against poops of all things.
i keep forgetting to do it
nice, how many points did you have in time?
idk what sheet this is from
103
Ive already fucked up so i think ill just keep megaing until im fed up with it lolol
might as well right
Cause thats asking me to get 115 pts on investing
That's what I did.
And im at like, 70 atm with tar
yea i just make it up as i go tbh. i cba to actuallly do it proper
same with owl. every time i reset its a slow start then i have to stand there for 2 hours while i spam reset. then come back days later to actuallly mega
Yep
I just figure its an eventual need, afk gains + fishing eff
And more damage ofc
Yea leveling my BB to use my scarf and needa resample fish again
Currently leveling my vman fishing to 120 for this reason
Not at W6 fishing?
wheres that at? is it better? lol
The raft next to the troll at the end of the docks
i unlocked the snowy south island in sailing and im wondering if i can farm treasure chests at the safari island and still get artifacts from snowy south
Nope, have to send ships to the island that you want artifacts and treasure from 
I suppose you could send your ship with the highest artifact find chance to snowy region.
or speed if necessary 
Only 900m more to go lol
Unlocked all first page now and started 2nd page
English, sir

Wrong channel
rng be rng 
well shit. w6 fishing is waaaaaaaayyyy better
Lol mfer 1 away from nametag
You're welcome =3
how are your fishing cards?
Do you have the passive feature from Rift unlocked?
yea
worth saving for this?
Absolutely
What are some big money sinks besides alchemy? Stamps?
w6 bank chests. lol
My bit production skyrocketed as soon as I got this
About done with 1b W5 kills. Debating staying here to farm keys until I get the kruk cape.
i just save my keys from CCing at wurms
how powerful is divinity?
Godlike 
first 7 are quite strong and necessary to get, after that is kind of 
WTB 50 million div points to get last god lol
How do you even play it out post goat? It's rather difficult to keep swapping between nobi/bear/goat.
i just had 6-9 people in lab with goat at all times
2 of them being ES who were linked to bear/goat on different presets
But I still need to push everyone through W4 and 5 tho.
Can do that after level 75 lab
Awfully specific. Why 75?
whats the best anvil item crafting layout? also which item gives most skill xp?
Threads.
75 for all chip slots unlocked
If you check the console part of lab, it shows chip slots
Ah, chip slots.
okay, should i just put all my characters to craft that
all thread, all speed, upgrade material capacity bags if you're capping or check faster
craft boost food/coldseeker bullets if you want faster levels. if you're doing a lot of these then you can respec to exp while you do it
I assume you can just leave everyone permanently on threads if you have 4th automation arm, right?
alright ty
One char has 10k capacity in anvil, the others like 500k
Bags?
That upgrade only works 1x per day on your reset. So thread only if you don’t cap each day - otherwise spread it out
Bricks for the crystallin stamp is very common
i love you
is actually so good
ye and i didnt know you can also get pet procs
since i need them breeding level right now
and 1 more unlock, just got the bunny 
Exp anvil points only increases the value of production items, like Thread. It does not increase the value of items you craft, like Bullets
Learned that the hard way 
Wait a minute…
Ah, well blame someone in W6 chat who said that 
Auto arm
doesn't work as nicely as you want it to. Your characters don't constantly produce anvil materials over time. Instead, they all get created at once between login and the afk claim screen. Because of that, when the Auto arm proc happens at daily reset, characters you haven't logged into have 0 thread available to deposit.
imagine if auto arm worked like we all wish and it just auto deposited everything made into stash consistently
or atleast like once an hour
Would be nice. I wouldn't need 500-800 capacity points on everyone lol
l,ol
Just got this =3 Now my max library level is +292
My library is cooked I have 100 talent points I can’t spend anything on
No more skills to get to max on?
so close to peapod
Not enough books
And I can’t upgrade because im salt locked

Didn't you just say you have 100?
Points as in talent points
Well 3500 kruk keys down and no cape. Rowr...
Did get two necklaces though, so that's something.
atleast you can work on those scarves lol
I think that someone was me... I guess I've been spreading misinformation
Already way ahead of ya. Only failed once 😉
not me skipping another HH knowing damn well i got several people with no rings
copper helm life
u made an alt? how’s that going?
well they died. so about as expected
i dont even know how many i have. ive not died in so long
LOL
eventually you just stop dying to things lol
i keep dying to w5 crystal with my bubo at wurms
i think too much hp on them with jawbreaker on
just buy auto loot lol its basically mandatory anyways even for f2p
I have to collect drops every 5 mins
oh you not buying it?
Without autoloot
probably not this is mostly just get a feel for w1-4 now
auto loot should be free at this point tho imo.
but its smart not to. once people put money into the game for it they are more likely to stay longer
oh gotcha
does the kattlekruk minor bonus ever show itself?
Best map to use cranium cooking on? (Early w5)
OJ
What
U mean major
Citringes
I don't have that unlocked
Idk then
W4 Flombeiges then
↑
Ok thanks
Never tested. I assume Rift monster gonna have too much hp since you pushed it to your limits
Ig
assuming you push it
I’m like on 46 or smth
imagine even having the dmg to consider CCing there
What? Ur grammar is peak
bro idk what happened there lol
@tall horizon
NordVPN says you trynna steal my money. pass
got them, ty for the ping

🔨
i dont even know how many i have atm. not many lol
Yeah I'm pretty stalled out on w6 skills right now
Heh
im stalled on levels and evos lol
Have you gotten to the bean guy yet?
God damn it... here I had hopes I'd never have to check that shit constantly anymore.
Rush first 5 gods (Goharut being the last you unlock), then put everyone on goharut and put them into Lab
Once you get enough carry cap then just check it once a day when you login to them 
All except 1* if you want.
You actively play with one character. The rest on the altar
Once you unlock 2nd/3rd god feel free to take someone out. I'd still leave most people on div/lab
W4 and W5 have huge timegates with Lab and Divinity. Goharut makes it so you get experience for both
So we rush to Goharut -> Put everyone into Lab (except that one active person) and keep them for a while
The buffs both provide are too good to pass up
In that time you backtrack some stuff you missed. See how the W5 skills work and maybe push a little bit
2nd 📌 should have a bunch of info for ya 
I hit a fat 5% on bnuuy and now I was blessed with this mf early. Just gotta thug it out for a long time to get all that div. 
Any tips on doing 180 orb DK rift challenge?
good book on orb and mostly just dmg and move speed
what do i need to kill katlekruk?
check pins
📌
?
thx going to take a while
Should I link with my first god? I just unlocked the snake one
Doesn't matter too much if everyone is on div still. If you happen to pull someone off, then sure
And should I go for the 50% ones or the 1% ones
Yes, you can unlink once you unlock bear. Snake gives 30% afk gains and acc/def, no downsides to being linked
I would roll the left option until you get a 100% in the middle and save for that, up to goat or purrmep, after that you can yolo
Like is it a waste to go for low % ones?
Alright
Do you Need to link divinity if you have king doot?
Theres an image somewhere
You only need one person linked to Purrmep - Highest Divinity level person to get max bonuses
but yes you need to link to cat on one person or somethin
100 second orb and only got to 150 😭
movespeed pots?
feels bad
yup
I just got Bored Bean. Do you have a guide for him?
Is this stamp a scam?
- Get Bored Bean
- Cry
- Think about other pets
- Cry
- Wait another week
- Get Bored Bean
- Cry
No but it isn't good early on
I get 0.3% per lvl times 140 lvls =42%
When does the Profit step come into play?
try step 200. Guaranteed Doot
Leveled more bubbles @bleak gazelle but they did not do much for chopping yet
No
it's also very frustrating 
so tru
poetic
lets go im considered mid w5 now
how do you see that
really depends on the refinery levels
he also offer this advice 
kinda useless to cut off the levels after i just said it depends on the levels
Farming spore caps on main cause still need more for the green stack of them
Farming green mushrooms and checking Pokémon cards in big folders
just unlocked the last spice territoy
how about make sure this number
now to wait for it to finish so i can get the last meals im missing
is smaller than this one which i fucked up
does anybody know how much rarer sovereign artifacts are than eldritch
a bit
10-20x if you go based off of some of the chest %, granted 0.01 is probably the lowest it can show, so later ones are probably much rarer
Are you using uBlock Origin?
i just downloaded that
close 
so close
thx
2 bubo or 2es if u have doot
2 es
well, think i got all the twine i need but don't feel like making gear. what now 
same tho
guess I could push to sky doggos
or could go for w3 statues now that my DR is better
oh, maybe wood mush to make appease scolibot
i need to do anvil points to appease scolibot
Candied a bunch of w3 statues the other day
have you hit 50 DR yet?
i'm sitting at a nice 25ish 
think I was around 15-18 when I did box statues
No, 44.6x with crystal cards, 47.42 full dr
Was getting around 1K soul and construction statues per 4 hour candy, a little less of trapping statues
ideally with choco chip, around 10x DR, and 1% crystal spawn should be okay to start
If you're lacking choco chip, start working on crystal spawn/DR cards and pop/dice obols
To work on cards you can first go for Card DR cards
I am currently card farming + leveling deathnote to prep for vman
trying to get 9th character as well
Can work on these for card DR (sans 4th one since that's event only)
I'm at those stats, without choco chip. I'm just overnight active statue farming because I can have all my statue needs by October anyway, when choco comes next.
Then work on these, top left/bottom right are crystal spawn. Others are DR. W2 Mimic is another DR card
Plus or minus a few months, but still. It's far and it's either wait then try or try now and have the statues by the time I have the chip.
Time to chip gamba 
@bleak gazelle not long got anew relic a sailing one
so many for 5 star 
ah its fine. thats like 2 days with your MK and card drop
Rubifier !
25 cards in 5 minutes 
that was scary accurate
48.83 hours 
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
Some consideration, if you play active and can check boats often you can delay loot capacity till later
just dont get lazy about it.
I am not very active at times
I like Sailing and Trapping, wait a bit, get big loot
hmm, 40 levels into card stamp, so maybe that'll speed it up a bit
Also just noticed that im getting pretty consistent crystal spawns now damn
Moai head,crystal 4 dayyss, and crystalin finally doing their jobs
oof, down to 18/5min over the last 1.25 hours
Rings? @solar seal
prob same as me
Or cooking
twins!
new shoe rack
Have a task for world 6 have to over grow crops 100 times is that hard?
eh its time consuming at first
OGs double your crop gains and can occur if you wait to harvest crops after they are grown when you have unlocked the upgrade from the night market. You will eventually do it thousands of times, but at first it won't happen often. Due to a bug you can get progress for that task even before you unlock the upgrade
Is there a way to change the elite class on a chacter?
yes theres a token for it
ltierally in limited shop right now
what a day to have no gems
What are you trying to swap?
that's not how it works
Make sure to get it before next update. It will take a lot of time before it shows up again
ah, that's a no go
really?
bb <-> dk, es <-> bubo, sb <-> bm
reading is hard once more
bb <-> es is impossible, you'd need a new account
ah okay that makes sense it doesn't change the main class
I'll change my bubo for es then
since I was told I don't need 2 bubo
If you are dooted it doesn't really matter if you have 2 bubo or 2 es, but for us non-dooters it's really nice to get an extra divinity link
I refuse to spend money on gatcha at least
And especially knowing how expensive it is
Do you know any ways that I can get gems?
bosses and mini bosses
Killing world bosses is the go to. You can only get gems for the first 300 kills
The minibosses are also good, especially W2
Done 20 over grow already but need to do 80 more times yet
Use vman for W2 minibosses and DK for the others
does the difficulty increase gem drop chance or?
Redbean made a list, I assume it's fairly accurate
#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message
not enough dmg for kruk yet
thank you
@bleak gazelle upgraded what stamps I could until I ran out of coins again
i feel that 
you get slightly over 200 gems/day doing the 300 world boss farm
kruk gives back slightly over 100 keys so you gotta have a net +200 key farm/day somewhere
https://deirdreamber.idleonefficiency.com/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2gM243KYLFKELslWnek86IlyADuY4bth_n3GpkdUEpvPFa9xOBpvKIaGg_aem_EsHqEbJUYlMlez5cq4MJLA @bleak gazelle plus upgrade a new bubble had for a while but not had items to use to upgrade it
Nice sheet, wasn't aware of that one
pretty new
I should try to catch spiketrap surprise for tome
this sheet is formatted terribly for a general audience
i haven't even looked at it 
the logic... i can't even start with this
Can't call the presentation nice
But it fills a gap
We have this from the guide sheet I guess
i wouldn't mind if there was some thought put into the math
just spitballing 30 w/o any logic/reasoning is really terrible
12.77 DR DK. you know the sheet is old
yeah, that also has the old div leveling method on it
wdym?
throw everyone onto mantra right away
you delay unlocking gods so much by doing that
i know because i was here when that was the given method 
ace is a proponentadvocate of rush to purrmep
also the description on focus saying that xp is most important
like yeah, sure, great, xp, i just want to move to lab
Yeah getting goat is really important and purrmep doubles your gains which is huge
i'm ok stopping at goat
i also think it helps new players when you can unlock gods faster for that positive feedback loop
I think it was more applicable when you could expect people reaching W5 not to care about lab anymore
Aka W5 release
yeah, and that was also when you'd have 8-9 people on arctis with a decent amount of lab progress, too
nowadays it's like...6-7 and they can maybe make it to KB node 
What to clear out of my storage it is full again https://deirdreamber.idleonefficiency.com/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2gM243KYLFKELslWnek86IlyADuY4bth_n3GpkdUEpvPFa9xOBpvKIaGg_aem_EsHqEbJUYlMlez5cq4MJLA
I kind of like advocating rushing to purrmep because that means you unlock omni and can throw some folks onto that, too
Equipment
Some of the gear is for mini fishing and catching so need to keep
can i even call rushing to purrmep rushing? 
that gives too much credit that people are wiling to stay in w5 and not bumrush into w6
can always hold gear on character inventories
i mean, have you seen half the people that come through here? 
i'm just saying, 90% of rushers will not even have bunny by time they want to push kruk
i know i didn't
I support rushing
I do to, I just go for the holistic approach to set them up for future progress
i do too. i'm just saying, purrmep is big reach - people will likely be ~bunny/goat by time they kill kruk
I did not rush I used candy to get coins on main
No idea how it is now. I did my pushing right at W6 release which made everything a bit weird
but shrug. its better to tell people to reach for stars and have them short at bunny/goat then ignore div altogther
woooo green helmets on everybody...too bad dense waters are so hard to get:(
Can buy them @fierce cargo
i wouldn't go too crazy making so many lustre sets. you only need so many for slab/crafting gear
I think given the fact that we know about 2100 lab being a thing, it makes it easier to set as a goal to keep people in there. but maybe i'm just lazy and only like having 1-2 people out anyway 
why do you skip them?
because they only upgrade to diabolical and stop there
gear progression starts anew at troll > magma > divine (kruk) > marbi > godshard
lustre > diabolical - dead end
so once you have enough damage to kill kruk, all gear progression/focus should switch to troll sets
do you not run void on everybody? cause void is where you need the d water
same reason for void 
i only made enough void to get the crafting pieces
and slab
otherwise completely ignored
a long time ago when i was pushing through w5 i was like... half chiz/half void
i pushed 5 with all purple gear
yep and that's totally fine too
figured it was time to upgrade, but....i guess i'll wait
focus 1 gear set - only to kill kruk
not sure what you mean by crafting pieces though
i was in void/chiz because i had weird account progression due to long afk breaks
these are upgraded skilling (my bad not crafting) armor pieces you'll use alot
I am still wearing world 3 boss gear on my main
thats 5 + 10 = 15 lustre boots
otherwise, i only ever made max 1 piece of lustre armor
Over 8m spore caps now
I wouldn't recommend w4 players to grind 2.1k lab levels as they get to there lol
Well this is taking forever I just need to beat this wave then I will just need to do 3 other ones so I can get the next equinox upgrade
you don't have to follow this obviously - just saying, you could avoid a lot of headache/haertache if you do'nt make too many lustre piecse right now and just focus 1 armor set with killing kruk in mind
cmon man. i'm not telling them "hey stay there till 2100" it's just makes it easier when people are like "why should i be in lab still"
ace is also someone who nearly had 2100 before even unlocking the jade unlock
i'm already halfway through w6
I have 9 in ghe lab right now
it just also feels like such a waste having people out of lab with arctis smh
oh then you should definitely not be making lustre gear
but that's just me
you need to be preparing all the mats for troll / magma / divine
I’m so confused about the lab thing I quit using it after world 5 released
sounds like you've got a time grind ahead of ya 
@bleak gazelle what wood print next?
Yea but I didn’t know what was so good about the lab because I don’t even have many of the crystals I might have like 5
most of the nodes are strong enough without jewels 
oh well my guys arent even past level 100 on lab they might not even be at 75
I have 7 lights on in the lab is that good so far?
like i cant get to the last area but thats difficult ding
You can keep going with jungle till you get gs, otherwise I'd work on oak/bleach for more bubble levels
lab:
main nodes - you need levels to be able to stretch across to keep everything lit up
console - need at least level 75 to have every chip slot open - chips are sources to double star signs, trophies, cards - very powerful
jewels - icing on top of the main nodes
so should i go back to lab for a while
how's your divinity?
divine
its alright i belive i need 2 more of them
Unlocked next floor in sneaking but need to level more before I go on it
you quack me up
Ah, well if you've got goat unlocked that's all your need then. I would swap links to goat and send people to lab then. You're missing out on quite a few bonuses if you can't connect to later nodes
alright ill do that
yall this is rough. having to leave shit on the ground again
close enough
my alt got ram before my main did. so glad cause i could afk for weeks at maps and still get everything
lol
had to give up so much stuff
feel that
ram is chefs kiss for pre-w3 and you get the storage star talent
i never picked that one up.
its poor mans ram. mandatory until you get ram
it should be a w1 talent and move hemo to w2
screw the skill xp conversion talent
awww only +3 to power trithree
Is megafish 12 a fractal like the leaves?
after 12 yeah
8 on sploosh sploosh?
Have green stack of jungle log already
no, the fiber ones. i think you're already printing them
I had to sample that one on other mage type and was not very high number
@bleak gazelle good set up for chpping?
do i wanna 2x crystal chance or drop rate when statue farming (rubified emperor/genie)
i prefer crystal chance. but thats because i was told to use it
since most of hte statues seem to come from crystals
but theres some that dont come from crystals so obv DR for those
crystal 
!chopchart you have something besides doot to use?
the end is in sight, maybe? (no its not)
what's your equinox count up to now?
did you roll another 1%? it seems low
your nugget rng really is shite
i used a lot when i went from 9k to 841k in 1.5 weeks
i think you used up all your rng karma in your sailing sovereign arrtifacts
tbf the early ones are pretty easy yeah? that was like first 4-5 islands
and the random bit one from a later island
you got them all in like a 5 minute period though, as if htey were on clearance
but true, they were the 'low hanging fruit'
true, i did zoom through them
then i think it was a week for sov fury which isn't too bad
i've made mushroom island my 2nd home
4319B = 4T, yes?
Gaming last tab when?
world 9
weird though.. Door only lost 2T
0% detect?
only 17%
you likely got caught
damn
the display shows your "average" including if you get caught and such
1 in 36 on 20x drop rate 
so it can be a lot less with bad rng
they're right next to each other
@bleak gazelle 
using my ergo mouse so sometimes i misclick
im almost exactly the same 😄
i finished my saw statues today, so w3 is officially done. 
nice, got my 2nd ender captain today
havent seen a single souverign articaft in 3 weeks now 😦
have you tried looking harder? 
im trying 😄
gotta start doing farming by the guide now. Iv been doing just random stuff and at lvl 80 but only 55 crops found
i'm like... lvl 73 or something with 57 plants i think
fun times, white screen in the middle of a cranium cooking
I finally have 99% liquidvestments, so back to CC for a while
time to farm up some kruk keys 
holy shit choco chip is broken
@bleak gazelle What's your snail at by now? My snail just got back to its all time high
ive just been chillin here for a week
make sure you haven't BLed hot dogs
Nice
you need at least 22M of those
Getting 1T bits is so much faster now
It's so nice
I won't sleep before I get a new nugget
Hopefully it takes less than like 2-3 hours
where can you track this?
IT
are you instant gaming?
So with my 24m nugget I should more likely than not get a new one in the next 1k
hmm
not that bad, I guess? Mine is only 167k though
you and ace both due for a 1M+ nugget soon
if my next one isn't 1m+ then i'm just gonna quit
Wanna switch nugget and snail?
with your powers combined, you'd both be done w/ gaming
lul
Hopefully like 50 in like an hour
Yeah if you borrowed my nugget I think you could finish gaming with a long grind
it'd be rough, only 1.9min speed
That's no 5 sec gaming
Do you have a purnep link?
1.9m seems slow
Oh wait your squirrel is probably a lot weaker
yeah, you're like 3 times higher i think
oh, well 2x cost. i'm at 207%
saw you talk about pumping speed over bit multi and decided to follow, but i was basically at 5x bit multi already 
If you don't have 5 sec gaming definitely go for speed
Kitsune is getting upgrades, right?
twinsies. i stopped at 5x cause i saw irineu say it
yeah, 200 now
I'm currently sitting on max chem plants, since my next cloud is the chem plants one, so I haven't gotten bits in a while...
if you have the 15 and have checked mirror you should be good to use them
if you got 15, just go check mirror - it'll snapshot the completion
oh, really? I though I needed it to be active when the cloud pops
ace verified and i double checked. you can complete it beforehand
nearly all of the clouds will snapshot, it's quite nice
I've wasted so many days of gaming...
it's why i was able to complete the lucky lad one right away 
rip to all the plants that were missed
somehow my VW hadn't gotten a lucky lad yet, even though I had all the Lucky Lads to make the trophy already, so I had to burn lots of candy

wow a luckier lad before vman ll is nuts
I had over 80 lucky lads, I was praying for storage space
dang yo, already got one of thsese with my impressive 1.05x DR
how's altcows prog coming along?
kind of slow man. active play feels awful with how little my damage is
but couldn't make new weapons cause missing bricks or w/e
You have a alt?
yeah i just started it last night 
ace is being proactive to learn about new player experience post-clicker
i died 6 times to amarok
You will never be able to have the new player experience since a ton of this game is just understanding how it works
But I'm very curious how quickly ace will progress
Oh I know (as I upgrade some of my stamps)
^ we gave him so much grief about leveling stamps
But then forget to touch the cauldron on new characters and set anvil production 
so i guess it evens out a bit
its like opposite account review - you cannot do things to improve, must be as inefficient as possible
tbf, i think when you unlock the pig you'd probably upgrade stamps right then
and then when you can buy the ones from the shop you'd upgrade those
then probably forget about them
until you get a new stamp
oh ace. i deposited stamps then walked away when i first played 
lul but they have cool arrows now!
tbf, the stamp ui is a lot better after lava did lava-ify it
game definitely feels better when you can 1-2 tap mobs instead of 5-10
Imagine not one hit killing every mob and boss in the game on your vman skilling setup
game would also feel better with autoloot, but i aint paying $5 for an alt 
Try one hit killing the w6 ghost with 300 bone joe pickles in ur inventory
Yeah I usually only take 150 bjp
I just turned in the heart stamp from a shop in w1 soooo
Like 4 hours ago
better smash that level up
idk what to atom now that I have 500 larry T_T
oh hey, i did it
make sure it's 501 at least
kind of overshot mine because i just went by atom count instead of actually watching the level, lul
totally not negllected
"tiny"
still in the millions lol
I've spent many hours clicking nuggets now, if it ended up being above my 24m I would have cried
Like all this effort for a percent increase
i kinda wanna know what the current highest multi someone has is
In the billions
It gets easier with insta gaming, higher shovel lvls and the fractal island bonus, but still increadibly time consuming
not me almost only doing dmg from fractal
i should do more skill eff tho
ah
i only have 2.6k hours of candy damn
Keep it just do other stuff
yeah it's like 503
figured i'd finally 5 star some cards which means i can finally finish my 2nd set of DR obols
W1-W3 will get done when eclipsing
well i am on ES so
all part of the journey
Fair enough, I should do some ES myself kinda soon
Like all W4 cards and the good W5 cards
Es is the least fun to active out of the 3 big classes imo
Idk it's not satisfying
DK is nice due to loot explosions
And it also feels less rewarding then dk and bubo
it sucks i didn't hold out and try to finish sussy gene quests before enemies getting too strong
Oh damn.. im 3 maps away from unlocking all vials
Balljoepickle?
W6 vials
should i have all characters entering w6?
this mf
I give up. I won't get that nugget today.
I did my math wrong and it isn't 1 in 1000 to get above 10% of the nugget , but 5%
That changes everything and I will likely need several thousand more
Is the SB talent unending loot worth it? I only check the game once or 2 times per day
