lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[pastel kayak]

Had to wait for the laptop to charge @strong shale was dead

[main kettle]

yess i was windering why it didnt level up the meat shank enough and realised its capped lol

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/CygqWf3.png

this should also be maxed on your DK

[main kettle]

holy fuck almpst 100K :O

[strong shale]

yeah thats a bit better

[main kettle]

just got it so it wasnt given enough love

[strong shale]

so now you have 1.5x the accuracy on almost everything in w5

[main kettle]

yeah the req was 81k and i crossed it by sm

[strong shale]

also, go back and 2-3* your total damage cards (snowman, dr d, bloodbones)

citringes card is also total dmg in w5

[pastel kayak]

https://deirdreamber.idleonefficiency.com/

[strong shale]

lemme take a look

[pastel kayak]

Just updated it

[main kettle]

yeah i aws doing that to bloodbone but needed some Gmush

[bleak gazelle]

omfg, i was actually paying attention for once for my daily reset but I had my afk info window pulled up for a sec

[strong shale]

i have no idea how you got an extra slot xD maybe it was from a gem shop purchase?

[bleak gazelle]

WHAT STAMP GOT LEVELED UP, LAVA

[strong shale]

i got the thread chopping eff stamp leveled today

[bleak gazelle]

could be worse

[pastel kayak]

Nope did not buy

[bleak gazelle]

seems like it was this one

[strong shale]

wow, lucky

great comms on that stamp

https://i.imgur.com/eSHAwq7.png

https://i.imgur.com/WUKY50A.png

forgot i had took a sample of those xd

[pastel kayak]

I leveled that stamp one 1 last night @strong shale now I have to wait long time to level it again

[strong shale]

yeah, expensive!

[pastel kayak]

Did level some other stamps too

And some bubbles too

[strong shale]

i see that, you gained like 400 stamp levels

and so many bubbles

[pastel kayak]

Is that good?

[strong shale]

yeah very good

[pastel kayak]

Been getting some new bubbles

I let them sit for days then upgrade them

Almost 9m iron now in storage

About 5m bleach now

[main kettle]

howd u get dat

[pastel kayak]

Can it remember sorry @main kettle

Meant can not

[main kettle]

its ok i found

[pastel kayak]

@strong shale did not buy it

[strong shale]

weird 😮

[main kettle]

wait dont everyone get 4 slots?

[pastel kayak]

I went in game to check cause I buy candy bags and chests mostly did buy other stuff not that one

Was last night I think it showed up @strong shale

@bleak gazelle you have 4 building lots without buying one?

I had 3 then another showed up

[solar seal]

this is where you have 3rd and 4th slots

[pastel kayak]

I forgot about that not sure if I got that

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, it'd have to be that if it's not gem shop

I was trying to look for something else, but I guess you already start with 2 default

[green pier]

any way of identifying what captain youre picking when placing them on a route?

[solar seal]

you can turn on "show identity' or something like that to see the ships -- but i use !IE or !IT cause it helps provide much more and better info than in game ui does

[pastel kayak]

Yep I just checked was that

[scenic nimbus]

I wanted to say thank you because I almost tripled my damage in these last hours thanks to your all advices appreciate you all

[pastel kayak]

Which one to save for?

[strong shale]

the 100%

[pastel kayak]

How to get more,points has only getting about 2 per alt a hour?

[strong shale]

change the style to something higher

also more sailing helps

[short scaffold]

RNGesus was with me tonight, just went from a 3.2k nugget to a 53.4k nugget

[strong shale]

nice!!!

thatll carry you to the equinox cloud

[frigid swift]

get outta my chat. this is the no/bad RNG chat

[strong shale]

ace got a jackpot though!!

[frigid swift]

knowing ace he prob had the worst RNG getting it

[strong shale]

jackpot is tome gains

[frigid swift]

im just glad he dont got doot. he already a menece on that alch and stamps. if he got doot he would shoot to top 5% ez

[strong shale]

easily

[pastel kayak]

@strong shale added one of my chopping alts to the alter in world 5 and they get more points a hour

[strong shale]

sounds good!!

[pastel kayak]

Chopping is still,printing logs

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, because they have a style that gives twice the base points as your other one

[pastel kayak]

Had 6 on it now have 7

[frigid swift]

oh cool i got the 1.2x dmg and 50% farming xp pristine charms today

[stuck gate]

The depths of your foolishness knows no bounds

[bleak gazelle]

soon soon, one more to sky doggies

[pastel kayak]

I have 9 alts on the alter in world 5 and main is killing moles in world 5 for coins

[warm steppe]

so i just unlocked the 6th evo for plants should i just not pick them til they hit max evo to green log the plant log or let it happen organically

[strong shale]

let it happen on its own

[warm steppe]

ic thanks

[solar seal]

i'm on 1K red bits, and i've only done 2 t6 plants. if you just unlocked it, you aren't anywhere close to getting them

[strong shale]

had that 6th evo for like a month now and ive only had 3

[warm steppe]

oof

[strong shale]

got the atom for snail today, and gained 2 levels

from 64x to 256x

[solar seal]

the multi from log book is tiny compared to nugget or snail. you don't push t6+ evos until late late gaming

[strong shale]

i cant get this blue gemstone in sneaking lava fix it

[pastel kayak]

What one to upgrade next?

[little trail]

Prob boulder roller

[pastel kayak]

Thank you @strong shale @solar seal @bleak gazelle for helping me all the time

[solar seal]

don't use a slot for fire lobber

[pastel kayak]

What one is that?

[strong shale]

😄 no problem im always available

she has boulder already building

[little trail]

Its the brown wizard tower

You should level it up

[pastel kayak]

Already is upgrading

[little trail]

Ok that’s good

[bleak gazelle]

Can always work on shrines, if they're low

[strong shale]

cost cruncher, and chest slots are good, even death note too

[pastel kayak]

Think they are not sure

[bleak gazelle]

You know, I realized there's a bubble that affects that no wonder my multi was so small from it

[solar seal]

cost cruncher should be prio

[pastel kayak]

Then building now

[strong shale]

👍

[pastel kayak]

Not get many points a hour

[strong shale]

that is how divinity is

[pastel kayak]

Main is killing moles for coins

[little trail]

I’m struggling to get enough damage to push world 5 I’m in almost full lustre and around level 160 and suggestions to get more damage?

[solar seal]

Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, artifacts, divinities, dungeon flurbos, and talents are all sources of damage

[bleak gazelle]

Biggest thing will just be levels right now, as well

Most people are in the 225 range or so

[little trail]

Thank you guys I’ll keep that in mind

[bleak gazelle]

Base stats are always a good goal to level up for alch and stamps

[little trail]

K

[solar seal]

i'm going to add owl + k.rat to that list

even tiny, they prob help

Alch (base stat bubbles), stamps, tools (serve as stat sticks due to upgrade slots), cards + card sets, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, artifacts, divinities, dungeon flurbos, clickers (owl and kangaroo rat), and talents (booking for higher max level) are all sources of damage

[pastel kayak]

@little trail my main

Updated that allot

[bleak gazelle]

well if you'd copied my last one it would have already had owl

[solar seal]

oh well

it sits at the bottom of my idleon notepad - not like i need to update it alot

[pastel kayak]

You are both silly @solar seal @bleak gazelle

[solar seal]

i think i broke my vman. last 4 days, printer go brr has not procced reset.

[dusky hedge]

acecow was it you who had the snail encourage chart posted awhile ago? i cant seem to find it

[solar seal]

cosplays as ace

[dusky hedge]

thank you been digging around for awhile as i apporach 15

[solar seal]

should probably make that into a better formatted image instead of a phone screenshot, but too many people are used to how it looks for them to spot it

[pastel kayak]

All my alts have the green trap now @strong shale

[strong shale]

remember to choose the silkskin

with the arrows so you can get lots of shinies

[pastel kayak]

Will change it later @strong shale

Still sorting them out only up to 2nd row

[strong shale]

wow

[pastel kayak]

They are up firends

He was given tubs full @strong shale

[strong shale]

oooh thats a ton

[pastel kayak]

Meant are my friend

They are Pokémon cards @strong shale

[strong shale]

that is really cool to have that big of a collection

[bright meteor]

I thought it was a full mangatheque 😭

[pastel kayak]

He has allot more cards then that I just helping sort some

Main has the silver like colour trap @strong shale is that better one?

[strong shale]

yeah that one is better

[pastel kayak]

So will try to make that one for the others later

[strong shale]

that would be good!

https://i.imgur.com/NbeMeXz.png the arrows on the top left can swap to silkskin

and you can use any trap and swap to this one to do shiny

[pastel kayak]

Is that the best trap for shiny ones? @strong shale

Got like 7 hours before the traps are ready

[woven sinew]

!gear

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[strong shale]

yeah until later ones i believe

[woven sinew]

oh wow I'm real behind on gear LMAO

ive been doing w5 in dementia gear 💀

[pastel kayak]

I have full gear from world 3 boss I think it is

[strong shale]

dementia is fine

that command is outdated

[woven sinew]

fair!!

[strong shale]

work on void/chizoar while you level salts up and then move to troll

[woven sinew]

also is this okay or bad damage at this point in w5

[pastel kayak]

@woven sinew my main

[woven sinew]

im guessing bad lol

oh damn

[pastel kayak]

Can not even kill 6.5k moles a hour on main

[woven sinew]

also omg I was just candying a bunch to progress and didnt realise how much I levelled up

[solar seal]

your damage is actually pretty good for where you are. you just need a little more and you are already prepped for kruk

also don't take what !gear says to heart. its a little outdated but also overzealous for what it asks

no one progressing w5 has troll set

[woven sinew]

oh sweet good to know!! tysm c:

[chrome cipher]

does unending energy work for div?

[gentle furnace]

no

[chrome cipher]

dope, ty

One last question, while crystal farming on world 5 should I stay on oranges until I can upkeep 2 statues?

and then move to worms?

[gentle furnace]

you can move to wurms as long as you can survive 1 hit from crystals on that map

and 2 shot them

[chrome cipher]

I can 1 shot them, just wasnt sure if they'd be more efficient without 2 statues

[bleak gazelle]

map is tiny

[chrome cipher]

copy, just realized i need oj for the bubble tho

sooo 🙂

[frigid swift]

This gonna take a while lol

[solar seal]

save orange grind for SBs - that's their only map to truly shine to you'll farm a ton with them when you get your 100k/1M PK

[solar seal]

will prob go very quick when doing trophy grind

[frigid swift]

statue grind?

[solar seal]

oh i thought you mean using up the 4k keys, not gathering them

[frigid swift]

i did mean using them lol

[solar seal]

70 per attempt at cape with 1:3k odds. even with like 20 DR thats almost 11k per cape

[frigid swift]

takes too long to do nightmare so im doing chaotic

[solar seal]

i think we are still talking two diff things so i'll stop :x

[frigid swift]

maybe lol

[short sparrow]

Finally trying to sort out my damn spice production 😭

Rebreeding everything for higher power is so annoying

[chrome cipher]

copy

[north palm]

Is the "feature" where you click out of the sailing map fixed? I'm seeing a bunch of "guides" and "tips" but I can't seem to get it to work. It always seems to lock into the map window until all the boat movement is caught up.

[bleak gazelle]

Yes, that was a specific addition to prevent bug abuse

I think if you hit C it'll close out a bit faster though

[pastel kayak]

That folder holds 1200 Pokémon cards about that is from Amazon

[north palm]

That sucks. What are the ways to increase the saililng loot pile?

[strong shale]

thru sailing, gem shop

[north palm]

how does sailling increase it? is it levels?

[strong shale]

theres an artifact that increases its max

[sharp mauve]

Try your best to do 777 Merchant achievement if you have some stockpile of Treasures. So every chest claim in future u get more.

[north palm]

just the one that gives +2? theres so few loot slots lol

[strong shale]

gives +4 in the end im p sure

[pastel kayak]

Bed now bad @strong shale

[strong shale]

nuh i sleep in 5 hours

[pastel kayak]

I sorted ou half that big box of Pokémon cards now

Checking cards friend gave me on weekend in huge folders

[frigid swift]

what are you sorting by. type? dex number? evo?

[pastel kayak]

Type @frigid swift like all the water type together

[frigid swift]

makes sense

[pastel kayak]

Plus had to take out all trainer energy cards too @frigid swift

[frigid swift]

i always hated how many energy cards i used to have lol

[pastel kayak]

Have 5 pages 16 per page of eevee and it forms in this folder @frigid swift

[pastel kayak]

Just got my 5th green stack and was iron ore

[frigid swift]

grats

[pastel kayak]

Ty I had to redo the samples for gold on 2

[ivory heron]

noob question here, should i start Divinity ASAP? is it difficult to level Divinity?

[pastel kayak]

What to green stack next? https://deirdreamber.idleonefficiency.com/account/storage? Already working on gold and logs

[sinful aurora]

Sorry we didnt answer earlier. You should start it as soon as you get into w5. Get at least lv 5 on everyone (i do mean all 10 characters) and unlock at least the first 2 gods before even stepping outside to kill mobs.

[ivory heron]

thank you bro!

[mellow mountain]

Hwo do i increase my k/h for world 5 pushing

And what is active bubo farning

Thx for answer guys

[lethal anvil]

is there a w5+ talent point guide for every class

[sharp mauve]

A way to speed up progress of Alchemy thanks to Cranium Cooking, Raise Dead, and level 200 Tenacity Eye combo. Bad for Sigil progress.

[pastel kayak]

What I am upgrading right now

[sharp mauve]

Cost Cruncher. Arm can stop at lv3. Beyond that are not useful for long time.

[jagged owl]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[jagged owl]

is 18.211m-43.523m on an ES enough to beat normal Kattlekruk?

[raw tundra]

when does efficiency increase?

[wispy wedge]

How is your xp 10x mine?

Can you share your IE?

[raw tundra]

https://f_forrespect.idleonefficiency.com/ what is ''xp 10x mine''?

[wispy wedge]

Like you get 10x more xp than I do

[wispy wedge]

Do you not do your weekly free rolls? Or is this bugged lol

[pastel kayak]

I keep getting ones I have from the weekly free roll I just need 3

[lusty lintel]

Where can I find optimal builds?

[flat plume]

what does the mantis's blessing scale off of?

[wispy wedge]

scaled basically means that if your char sucks at that skill he will get a bigger boost(e.g. maestro), but if he has a decently high efficiency he wont benefit much from it (A char that specializes in that skill).

This is a nice buff to newer players. will allow them to skill in midgame easier, especially on maestro.

[flat plume]

ohh oke

thought it was scaling w divinity level and was wondering why my sb got higher bonus than es but it makes sense niw

[long gate]

!merit6

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[long gate]

!merit6

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[mighty helm]

what is the best strategy to do fratal island ? like is there a good moment or with a good char ?

[sterile bison]

Just best char for that weeks challenge I suppose if you are gonna get a big bonus before it resets then do it then

[mighty helm]

sorry but i don't understand your answer, there is a weeks challenge for afk island ?

[sterile bison]

Ohh nevermind I did the wrong island there’s basically no “good moment” per se to do it but allot of people use candy for the first few bonuses or if you complete all the maps in the latest world you can set people then. It’s always kinda rough to have characters doing nothing

[mighty helm]

yeah ok i was wondering if you were talking about challenge island x)
Okok, i'll probably wait end of w6 then and use candy in the mean time to farm small chall. Thx

[solar seal]

curious what you think strategy is for island that just requires pure time.
if your question was best way to get the nothing trophy, you use vman to increase odds of reroll on afk for more chances at trophy.
otherwise, it is purely: how much time are you wanting/willing to sink

though tbh, with po6 nerf, pumping candy into nothing island seems like a bad move, considering all the other spots that are better used for candies atm

[main kettle]

gonna go crazy here ( i have 4.50M dmg only )

[mighty helm]

My question was connected to the god/lab strategy to farm other thing in the mean time with (5 or 6th, i don't remember) god. But yeah its seems quite correct to think that you cannot rly optmise this afk time

but i'll keep in mind your answer, thx

[wispy wedge]

Should have way more than 4.5M by this level. Star signs? Cards? Bad talents?

[main kettle]

totally not talents or star signs or cards too i think it’s just some stamps and alchemy stuff

heres gear too

[wispy wedge]

Send ie

[wispy wedge]

You're def missing something. Should be around 45m+

Just from personal experience, because you're right around where I'm at right now in progress/level

[main kettle]

damn?

[main kettle]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=MannyManny

[wispy wedge]

!ie

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger

[wispy wedge]

!ie

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger

[main kettle]

https://mannymanny.idleonefficiency.com/

[wispy wedge]

Easy Combat Stamps to obtain -
• Diamond axe stamp from 'Everyone move it' quest
• Stat graph stamp from 'ok, now it's peak gaming time' quest
• Vitality stamp from the W1 forest vendor
• Manamoar from 'mutton clout chasin' quest
• Polearm stamp from papua piggy questline (W1 giga frogs) - This will take 5 days to complete as all stamps are bought in shop that he requires

[main kettle]

howd i get party points tho

[wispy wedge]

Alchemy
• Unlock more bubbles and vials ASAP (if you're struggling with cauldron speed, put swap talent points on bubo from stupendous statues/wis wumbo and put them in sharing some smarts/busy brewin' + buy the better cauldron from gem shop if haven't already)

[wispy wedge]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Capital_P

If you can't figure out quests, the wiki has every NPC questline

[wispy wedge]

And if you're struggling with 3D printer mats for bubble/vial upgrades (specifically on your fishing it looks like), ensure your star signs, cards, card sets, + fishing food is proper before you 3D print [I had the same issue you're having until I prepared for 3D printing properly, then I went from 30 bloaks to 3k+ which is still not good]

As well as all skills^^

[dense forum]

Does liquid investments max lvl give 99% excess liquid to cap and rate?.

I'm currently doing the dream to increase its max lvl

[dense forum]

Damn that's op

[main kettle]

ahhh okay okay thanks appreciate it

[wispy wedge]

Cooking
• focus hard on cooking speed dishes early on (I recently swapped focus to this after being diversed and went from 1k speed to 17k speed)
• Cabbage
• Corndogs
• These won't help your damage initially, but after 1 week of focusing, your speed will help you get the other important damage dish levels higher

[wispy wedge]

Lab levels are really low, but that's just more time consumption than anything.
Your bubo should be helping a lot with lab, looks like you put the wrong talents on focus.
• Move from utmost intellect talent and skill wiz talent to green + purple tubes. Or just green for now to level everyone up over the next few days.

[main kettle]

a, focusing on getting the goat god rn so i cant hit two birds with one stone

[wispy wedge]

I did the same thing. I think it's good, but others disagree

[main kettle]

ive never seen someone disagree lol

[wispy wedge]

You should spend about 30 minutes getting as many constellations as you can finished. Even if it's only 2 or 3 you can do at the moment. You're 1 away from a decent damage boost star sign
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Constellation_Locations

[main kettle]

yeah ive done every cosntillatin i can

all of em are just afk for 20H or more

[wispy wedge]

I do believe you're higher than lv 30

[wispy wedge]

Should be there on 3 players

[main kettle]

huh what map

[main kettle]

yeah didnt stumble upon these

[wispy wedge]

haha np. Click the link I sent and give it a run through

[wispy wedge]

Why are you focusing on mana for DK? (I might be missing something myself if there is an actual reason)

[main kettle]

the CD reduction

[wispy wedge]

Ah, for active pushing then?

[main kettle]

yessir

wahhhhh

where am i getting the 3 this fast lol

eh done

huge

[wispy wedge]

Welp that's all I pretty much know. I'm still relatively new to this game as well, so just letting you know what sent my damage personally. (I lacked focus in a lot of the areas you are right now just a couple weeks ago and when I did spend time on fixing them it 10x'd me easily).

I'd say prio 1 is alchemy bubble + vial unlocks ASAP (re-do bubo's talents to help with this)
Prio 2 are those easy combat stamps
Then mix prio in tandum is cooking/lab/div

Just my unprofessional opinion as I know relatively little compared to others here 🙂

[main kettle]

which vials

[wispy wedge]

Click alchemy, then read the bubbles + vials you haven't unlocked yet and B-line to those (if you want spoilers)

If you want to just play without spoilers, then unlock them whichever order you like 🙂

In Idleon efficiency app^^

[main kettle]

okii

[wispy wedge]

Anyway, off to work. Goodluck

[main kettle]

thanks man u too

[chrome silo]

Is there any way to recall a specific captain when they're all on top of each other?

[pseudo shadow]

can someone make an IE review to give me progreess? pls help me out 😄

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, easiest to hit "Show Identity" on the Map tab, then go to the Crew tab and hit "Trash" on the captain(s) you want to bring back. They have to be out of the boat to actually delete, so no worries on accidentally doing it from that screen.

[chrome silo]

Perfect, thanks

[dense forum]

Lava should really overhaul the sailing interface and captain and ship management

[bleak gazelle]

I'd normally say send it, but I'm tired af right now.
Have you checked out Scoli's AutoReview bot? https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203
https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

owo, wot's this one

[dense forum]

Afk window kek

[bleak gazelle]

bow recipe

[raw tundra]

i have all except 10% frog i don't want to do it anymore

[bleak gazelle]

IE doesn't share companion data for public profiles, unfortunately. IT does though

[raw tundra]

soooo sparx i have seen some people increase efficiency but i don't see anything in game that would affect it. i reached lasst god by meditation differences leveling up and all that stuff

[bleak gazelle]

btw div efficiency will never increase, it doesn't exist. only div exp modifiers
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=divinity exp

[pseudo shadow]

https://idleontoolbox.com/data?profile=InsFresse

[nova lynx]

@main kettle I did a quick check over to make sure your talents weren't on the wrong preset cause that dmg does look low. I think a big focus should be bubble 1 and 2 on orange cauldrons since oyu're pushing with DK. 52.6K oak logs and 6.9K gmush spores aren't very high numbers for being at citringe maps. It looks like you've really neglected alch by this point.
Your oak log print should be way higher than 1.03K (it's obvious because even your bleach log sample is 2.29K). Try setting up your woodcutter to have more optimal setup when sampling. Get your ES onto log sampling as well (I know it's a lil rough when you don't have double print boxes and don't have Vman to handle mob drop sampling at good rates).
You can leave your ES active at gmush for a period to really ramp up gmush items since your prints are so low rn. If you still aren't getting many an hour (portal should help this a ton), you can always get your deathntoe MK rate up in w1 which will make your active ES rate go up higher.

If you have time to leave your ES active at mobs, it is prob worth having your ES do "active" work to keep your refinery alive (gmsuh and sandy pots for now) this early on.

You should really look into Scoli's auto review though. It calls out your bubbles as being early w3, but that's for a lot of reasons other than the 2 bubbles I specifically mentioned. It also looks like you got quite a bit of other mechanics that you've sort of ignored.
You haven't even attempted w3/w4 vials yet (you don't have to unlock them in order but it looks like you already know this), you really should be trying to burn your daily vial unlock attempts as long as you have mats.

[sharp mauve]

Owl

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[bleak shore]

lava bein lava 😦

[inland topaz]

any tips on where to put voidinator in worship lineup? Right early next to the portal?

[nova lynx]

If you've made the trade once before I think you can refresh map (gem shop, portal, whatever) and the price should go down

[bleak gazelle]

!guide Depends on what you're aiming for. This spreadsheet should be good up to 80-100. Otherwise check out https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084925174517866496

[obtuse orbit]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[bleak shore]

yea but i SHOULD have enough but the game is cooked in the rounding section

[nova lynx]

Eeh it's not cooked. Technically 703,500 - 704,499 would round to 704K. So for all you know the game is asking for 704,999 and you are 704,498 (or 703,500) 🙂

But anytime I see a trade like that, it almost always matches my exact resoruce # since it drops to 0 after the trade.

[inland topaz]

I appreciate you

[nova lynx]

Dang, haven't looked at those TD guides in a good while. I def need to go back and do some tower defense lol. Pretty much could push wave 80 through w3 and hit wave 50 on w4. Haven't attempted w5. That'd be pretty big gains on the MSA

[sharp mauve]

W3 is the only annoying one 😢

[nova lynx]

Why is W3 annoying? Just require you to be more active?

[sharp mauve]

Long, stunners, challenging early on, and sometimes u have to put Krakken on bottom.

[nova lynx]

oh the wave 70 pic guide shows 3 krakens on bottom side unless you meant right in front of the worship shrine

[sharp mauve]

I recall there was an annoying Wave 1XX where you need a longer lane to stall the boss. I forgot. 🤷‍♂️

The top right platform is just too short

[nova lynx]

Aah I'm not in the 1XX land yet 🙂

[sharp mauve]

Then too long to worry about

[nova lynx]

I'll cry when I'm there lol

first juicy blue pull ever lol. Been under 100 my whole fishing career until this pull 🥲 MF3 is starting to make this juicy

[ionic lintel]

im tryna get sovereign artifacts and i was getting roughly 3% chance on the 5th islands but i was only getting around 0.08% chance on the 6th island is this normal

[nova lynx]

this is getting wild

[wispy wedge]

"If you still aren't getting many an hour (portal should help this a ton), you can always get your deathnote MK rate up in w1 which will make your active ES rate go up higher."
Can you explain the ES portion, I don;'t see any talents that mention this. Or you just meant for active ES farming?

[nova lynx]

ES portal will spawn mobs continuously, every 20mobs killed they get buffer. And they have increased drop rates.

So portal = tons of mob mats in a short period of time

[sharp mauve]

Yes. Just try keep checking for Elder Captain once u unlocked from Sneaking. and never use Unending Loot Search.

[nova lynx]

For example, my Vman can sample like 10K gmush caps/hr during speedrun (highest way to get mob drop sampling). My ES, with my multikill rate, can get me millions of gmush/hr if I leave him active at gmush

[wispy wedge]

I see

[nova lynx]

Worst part of leaving ES active with high drop rates is I don't have great carry cap, so gotta bank stuff pretty often on things like gmush. 🥲 but drops stay on the ground for up to an hour so if you check in every now and then you're fine (but having tons of drops on ground does cause game to lag like crazy)

[sharp mauve]

Ruck Sack prayer help but never active too long with ES. Too buggy. 🤷‍♂️

[nova lynx]

I only active if I know I can check in and bank every 15min or so. Def more often on gmush

But I don't active ES farm that much anymore. Been doing a lot more bubo CC lately

[sharp mauve]

Same thing, I may active again when farming Gold Twine. 🤔

[nova lynx]

I agree. my bubo finally hit multikill on citringes and I can't leave it on overnight anymore without coming back to omega lag (and a decent loss of desync time)

[zinc torrent]

getting good

[ionic lintel]

yo im at like the exact same spot and the next island is like very small odds compared to where u up to now

[zinc torrent]

im getting better % on sov then some further island so thats where im focusing

[ionic lintel]

yeh thats what i was doing. i was getting around 3% for the lightning island and then snow island drop down to this

[zinc torrent]

0.03% is tough

[ionic lintel]

im curious are you getting similar %?

[sharp mauve]

Totally normal without Elder.

[ionic lintel]

thats cringe

[sharp mauve]

At least the Treasures are helpful for ship upgrade 🤷‍♂️

[ionic lintel]

wait are you talking about the endercaptain from sneaking?

[sharp mauve]

Yes. I dunno why I said Elder. and never seem him once 🤷‍♂️

Probably gonna done all important Soverign before they even appear, so stupid.

[ionic lintel]

have you been focusing good artifact find chance captain?

[mighty helm]

when is it a good time to start farming onyx ?

[sharp mauve]

Loot Captain to upgrade Ships beyond 50m is much better.

[bleak gazelle]

typically when you have a Choco Chip and about 10x DR

next choco is in rotation in october, so make sure you're setup for that and work on DR if you need to. or just

[sharp mauve]

Okay... my first one. Not too bad. 😱

[mighty helm]

humm okay i'm currently full obols, should i go for crystal mob card farming until choco or just farm w6 ?

[ionic lintel]

oh shit nice

[sharp mauve]

No Loot Value 😢

[bleak gazelle]

you'll want 5 star crystal cards and as much DR as you can get. Chaotic Chiz card for shrine effect % is good, too. Make sure you level your crystal shrine

[sharp mauve]

4* Genie is good enough

[ionic lintel]

it has the hidden 25% account-wide so broken

[bleak gazelle]

you'll want a crystal card setup for things other than onyx, regardless, so it's good to farm it

[sharp mauve]

Probably not too OP with one Ender

[bleak gazelle]

but that 5* cardifier

i've seen people take double cloud ender captains

[sharp mauve]

I farmed with that for months. done 23 Onyx.

Srcew it I just 5* it

[ionic lintel]

is the bonus addative or multiplicative

[mighty helm]

So i go for more cards or just farming gear/lvls/... in w6 (i just finished w5)

[ionic lintel]

like the 25% loot and artifact

[bleak gazelle]

You can throw some people onto first few maps of w6 if you need levels, but card farming would probably be great now

[sharp mauve]

I believe not multi cause the Loot modifier

[bleak gazelle]

If you're struggling to get past W5 boss or through W6, now is a good time to do some backtracking! Courtesy of @Trickzbunny
https://i.imgur.com/c1RhPXA.png

[sharp mauve]

5* Genie only +15% 🤷‍♂️

[nova lynx]

Trickz wants me to take everyone beyond my pusher's gear (Chiz) as backtrack? 👀 that crazy

[bleak gazelle]

When W5 was end-game?

[nova lynx]

Ok fair point. I thought maybe it was updated since it says "or through W6".

I mean most of that's true though. The gear one just stood out to me lol since the rest seem significantly easier to do than gearing.

[bleak gazelle]

Maybe I should make an updated version

[dusky hedge]

https://i.imgur.com/4ns7cGm.png how is this guy at worms?

[ionic lintel]

that list has get 10th alt surely ur not even past w4 without tenth alt

[bleak gazelle]

weinerbutt

[nova lynx]

You are. Especially with the latest update to alt level reqs

[ionic lintel]

wats the lvl req for tenth?

[bleak gazelle]

with the changes, def, but even prior to that you could get to w4 with just 7 or 8

[strong depot]

yo any tips on how to get suggma recipe

[nova lynx]

idk but I snaked my 10th char like a week before he raised the req. I think I finished w4 with 8 or 9 and I changed my pusher twice during W4

[bleak gazelle]

more DR and more mob respawn, damage/multikill don't matter

[simple wadi]

Get as much drop rate as you can

[mighty helm]

thx

[bleak gazelle]

Don't forget that you can snapshot card DR when farming them

[ionic lintel]

idk i got to w5 in like a month and a bit after starting the game and im pretty sure i had all ten chars well before that

[mighty helm]

what do you mean by snapshot (sry about my english)

[bleak gazelle]

It means you can "save" some stats (max health/mana/card DR) if you have them when entering the map
Then, you can make changes to your cards/star signs, but the game will still think you have that max value

[mighty helm]

oooh rly ? like i'm using my DR card set and go in a map, change to max multikill and i have them both ?

[bleak gazelle]

So you can enter the map with something like this (you can go to gemshop and exit, too), then switch to regular DR setup and you will keep the Card Drop benefits

[mighty helm]

😭

[bleak gazelle]

Yep, it only works for a few things, I think just max hp/mana for sampling and card DR, idk if there's anything else

[sharp mauve]

I recall u need to keep the Card DR effect to Candy Catching. 🤷‍♂️ I dunno what has not been fixed after years.

[bleak gazelle]

lava probably doesn't know how

[sharp mauve]

Just make them passive

[bleak gazelle]

true, at this point

[sharp mauve]

Newplayers too lazy to farm cards and benefit them a lot

[bleak gazelle]

gigafrogs you get a decent amount of when farming pops

and I like to recommend snelbies for early dice farming, too

but i also think they'd be great as passive

[sharp mauve]

I farmed Pop Obol during early W3, got half the brozne

[bleak gazelle]

oof

[neat barn]

hey guys, do you know how many gfood cupom u get from coliseum at w5?

[gentle furnace]

depends on your score and dr

[bleak gazelle]

#1208108939313684621 message

[neat barn]

28x DR, how many more or less would it be?

thanks btw!!

saving me form expending to find out

[neat barn]

sorry, just noticed your response was also to me, thank you!!

[south agate]

World 6 stones or World 5 stones better? i know w6 has better stats obv but is it worth the chance

[bleak gazelle]

Not my drops, personally, from Trickz. I'm sure if you go look through W6 chat more you can find some mor enumbers

W6 is better if you hit like 80% of them, maybe even fewer

Maxed guild bonus will make you have an 83% chance to succeed so odds are pretty good

[zinc torrent]

always w6, if bad stones then remake

[south agate]

Grinding the hampsters just takes forever

Hit 4/5 tho

[zinc torrent]

if fail 2 kinda 50-50 if 3 remake imo

[bleak gazelle]

just craft it with +1 slot, so when you fail when it's like you had a 100% success rate

[zinc torrent]

could hv been +1 and all success

[south agate]

Finally hit a billion damage

[rotund trail]

apparently I'm getting old.. wth is "drops" in Gaming?

[fast wolf]

soon 1b

[sharp mauve]

Sprinkler?

[rotund trail]

beats me

[sharp mauve]

Maybe it is ignored bcs spamming Shovels is already busy

[alpine yacht]

Isn't the drops from the rift?>

[bleak gazelle]

it do be lookin like sprinkler

[grave tundra]

am i doing something wrong or am i just unlucky

[bleak gazelle]

rng

[grave tundra]

i hate my life

[solar drift]

if i sit in lab with divvy slippers does it still give me the divinity exp bonus ?

[bleak gazelle]

If that character is linked to goat, yes

[solar drift]

noice

[fierce cargo]

is there a sneaking guide somewhere for points

[bleak gazelle]

#1208108939313684621 message

Sneaking (DETAILED NEW!)
If it doesn't take you to the right section

[solar drift]

WHERE ARE MY FISH

[bleak gazelle]

I kinda feel that

oh lul, just checked my gains for more purple

[solar drift]

btw i heard from soneome before that ~200m was small soft cap ?

or atleast he said he couldnt get more than 200m

[bleak gazelle]

no clue, i'm barely touching fishing or reading about it. but #endgame-gen-chat should have everything

[solar drift]

spamming at 40k%

[solar drift]

have no access to it D:

[bleak gazelle]

#👀read-me

[solar seal]

#endgame-gen-chat message 732M, def not a cap

[solar drift]

noice

also i should have just spamm click the shiny

my multi is jumping rn

[ripe peak]

1 more week of grinding divinity then 40 on all 9

Then it's time for lab

[bleak gazelle]

Do you have goat unlocked?

[solar drift]

you didnt get goat ?

[pastel kayak]

My gold printing not going up much

[solar seal]

@bleak gazelle #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message this would explain why my NBLB got f*cked when my lvl 4 bubbles randomly were being leveled

gdi lava

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, redbean mentioned it a while ago after the NSLB update dropped

posted in suggestions to fix it

[solar seal]

i strategically had all the bubbles at 4 to not get hit

[pastel kayak]

What to,put the points in to?

[bleak gazelle]

think all red/black until they catch up, then mostly red after?
idk, everyone has their own ratio

[pastel kayak]

Before I reset for 3rd mf I put points in yellow

[strong nexus]

what exacly red do?

[bleak gazelle]

Makes other bonuses higher? I haven't even gotten my first megafish

[pastel kayak]

Was my 3rd mf @bleak gazelle

[ripe peak]

still on rabbit

[bleak gazelle]

what style are you using?

[ripe peak]

mantra

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, that'd be why

[ripe peak]

didn't realize that goat would allow both

[bleak gazelle]

were you following the div section in !guide perhaps?

I would honestly just throw everyone onto Focus to try and get goat asap

[ripe peak]

got it

[bleak gazelle]

Unlock that, link however many you want to goat (can keep 1-2 out if you want), move them to lab, stay on Focus until you unlock Purrmep, then you can move back to Mantra to round off your levels for the folks that aren't in lab

[ripe peak]

got doot so linking aint a problem

[bleak gazelle]

oh

my friend

[solar drift]

ah

[bleak gazelle]

https://imgur.com/rfx0Wvm

[solar drift]

gz

[bleak gazelle]

You could have been in lab a long time ago

[ripe peak]

faaaaaaakkk

[bleak gazelle]

You still do want to unlock Purrmep though, so i'd throw them on Focus for the points. Definitely feel free to keep 1 or 2 out to do something else though

TranQi at 40 is nice, but it doesn't work on any active characters, just fyi

[ripe peak]

ok

[solar drift]

dont he still need to unlock goat first ?

[main kettle]

ive been leveling these two and i dont see a big difference

[ripe peak]

i should have guessed i could go into lab when i saw the extra printer buffs

[fallow aurora]

2nd bubble doesn't affect the 1st bubble

[main kettle]

huh?

[main kettle]

wym, it does thats what the desc says

[solar drift]

i mean you shouldnt go into lab if you dont have goat

but if you have doots all your cahracter are active even if you are not connect

unless im somehow wrong here

[main kettle]

yes they are connect but dont gain EXP

[fallow aurora]

the description isn't entirely correct, it doesn't affect the carpenter bubble either

[solar drift]

im wondering with doot, do you even need to connect to lab to gain exp from divinity and lab ?

probably yes right ?

[main kettle]

yes

[ripe peak]

you have to be in lab, i would have been higher than level 1 if i didn't need to

[main kettle]

if u dont connect no exp gained, just counted as connected

[main kettle]

awhh so whats the solution? my dmg is massively low

[fallow aurora]

idk, I just got carried by damage bonuses in w6

[severe plaza]

what skill do balloons give exp for in w5 town?

[frigid swift]

I think its based on where your standing. so if you stand in the breeding area it should be breeding

[severe plaza]

so if I stand by divinity it should give divinity?

[frigid swift]

oh wait w5 derp

im not actually sure for w5

[severe plaza]

the popup said exp only, no modifier

[frigid swift]

I was thinking w4

[terse verge]

Balloons dont work on w5 skills

[bleak gazelle]

No, he has doot, he has all major and minor link bonuses except for tiger minor, as long as he's div level 2

[severe plaza]

cool, so don't waste em. Thank you kindly!

[bleak gazelle]

It got changed some time ago (or never worked?) Scoli told me the other day

[frigid swift]

man im going out of town for like 5 days. gonna come back to gainz lol

[bleak gazelle]

Correct, and blessings are not Major/Minor links. They're the ones that you spend resources to upgrade that are always active for your account

Two lines up it says that all Major and Minor buffs are active all the time

[main kettle]

aww thats sad

[solar drift]

Damn

[peak fjord]

Do all divinity gods count as active with doot even if they aren't unlock?

[bleak gazelle]

Yes, scroll up a bit to see an infographic

Also in the 📌

[peak fjord]

Thx

[chilly anvil]

how can he have his stats that low and be lvl 790?

[bleak gazelle]

Report and move on

[azure garnet]

10000%legit

[pastel kayak]

Mine are a bit low I think

[hybrid halo]

Don’t neglect alchemy

[pastel kayak]

I am not @hybrid halo I have to green stack 20 items for a quest so an not use all my mats right now

[frigid swift]

I find neglecting alchemy is fun. makes it like playing a hardcore version of idleon 😛

[pastel kayak]

But you are crazy @frigid swift

[frigid swift]

i think the word your looking for is stupid. or lazy 😛

[hybrid halo]

Neglecting alchemy isn’t considered lazy just stupid imo. Neglecting sampling and trapping is lazy.

[frigid swift]

lemme just uhhh -covers my samples page-

[pastel kayak]

@hybrid halo doing first one of that

[frigid swift]

Just need so many materials lol.

[red mauve]

No no your just stacking gold relic.

[frigid swift]

yes thats what im doing lol

[hybrid halo]

Good luck. Keep working on those green stacks. Gonna need 200 at some point

[pastel heath]

200 is a pain

[pastel kayak]

After I get to 20 I am going to upgrade bubbles

[ripe peak]

I should have probably focused it back before i dropped the game over a year ago now i'm dealing with the concequnces of not leveling the cauldrons

[frigid swift]

the issue with alch is it always feels like im behind no matter what

[daring oar]

What make the tremor worms better then the oranges for bubo

[pastel kayak]

You think mine is ok?

[daring oar]

you really have to get ur 3d printer grinding and get bubo lvl 200 tect so you can get your bubbles up

[frigid swift]

more kills. theres more mobs and when your bubo is good enough it kills more

[frigid swift]

Dunno. I would say its a bit low but so is mine lol

[daring oar]

do u use this prayer when playing bubo for the giant kills

[pastel kayak]

All but for my main is on alternin world 5 so can get the next god which is over 8k points I need

[frigid swift]

that prayer is always active on all my charsa

[daring oar]

how long have u been playing for?

[frigid swift]

30 years

[pastel kayak]

Not sure and when I started was in bad guild and was not in this server

You behave bad @frigid swift

[daring oar]

few weeks?
months?

[frigid swift]

go drink your water! lol

[main kettle]

how hard is getting purple salt

what does it require to produce it

[main kettle]

gosh

[hybrid halo]

Honestly not that hard in regards to the resources needed.

[hasty harness]

Guys, what are all the bonus that having more green stacks give?

[fallow aurora]

only damage afaik

[hasty harness]

i know about the extra money on the lab

nvm

thats green mush

[strong shale]

Any1 want some mana?

that take dmg for more dmg upgrade is wild, won like 7 more battles just inting at the start

[frigid swift]

tf

The difference lol

[junior dune]

Looks like you probably want have a few crazy days in summoning now. It really speeds up a ton with cyan and red

[bleak gazelle]

y u no summon yet?

[strong shale]

yeah i dont have cyan unlocked yet, but i think i won 4-5 times in red so ill be saving soon

[compact zephyr]

What's the best class to push w5?

[frigid swift]

kind of depends between active or afk. and alch

[junior dune]

Probably ES or DK since it's the best for the boss

[frigid swift]

in the end all that matters is that you hate BM like everyone else

[solar seal]

but BM is like new w6 beloved child with all the summoning bonuses

[hybrid halo]

Bubo still the fastest killer but DK and ES are still good options

[junior dune]

Thing is that you can use candy now

The boss has become a much bigger issue for current players wanting to do it asap

[hybrid halo]

Didn’t think about that.

[solar seal]

also no one has tent200 yet when pushing kruk. so bubo kind of slower

[junior dune]

Bubo should still be the fastest map pusher, but not by nearly as much as with tent 200

[solar seal]

if 200 were easier to hit, i think bubo would be included in the list

[frigid swift]

what bonuses

[solar seal]

mainly shiny speed. shiny level 10+ are feasible now so people are pumping the good shinies

[frigid swift]

Im still over here struggling to breed past the purple shroom for w4 :C

need the damn peapod so i can do the 115 area with 4 pets

[solar seal]

you got the w4 splicer yet?

you can do 115 with rattler, just slower

[hybrid halo]

I’ve done zero active BM and I’m 10th on the boards. Still can’t deny it has value to active BM tho.

[frigid swift]

yeh but dont got 100 batteries lol

[frigid swift]

You got a lineup for the rattler comp? ill give it a try since my equinox is hard stuck for that oen atm

[solar seal]

do you have alchemic unlocked? the rng comp w/ rattler only works pre-alchemic

[frigid swift]

yeh i think the popcicles are

[solar seal]

but its nothing fancy. rattler / looter / mono / refiller. use BM skill to enter/exit arena until your team is full energy - then put on auto and go afk for a few hours

[frigid swift]

lol few hours

[solar seal]

alchemic could f*ck it up and make you lose some defensive buffs when you need them. i'm not 100% sure since i did mine pre-alchemic

[frigid swift]

gotcha. ill give it a look thanks

meta strats i hear 😛

[solar seal]

for as much as you disparage regular parts of the game, surprised you are doing fish

[frigid swift]

its easy. i set it up and check it every few hours then go back to what i was doin

[solar seal]

true i guess

[frigid swift]

working on setting my owl up nicely since ill be going on a trip for 5 days on thursday. hopefully come back to 2 upgrades and a new mega

[solar seal]

yeah owl is nice and braindead. my restart is at 3 days so its ez to coast on it

[frigid swift]

it just gets to a point where its like reset every 4 seconds for an hour. then bam no more resets for atleast an hour lol

my mega isnt that high atm. its like 8 i think atm

Once i get the leek lock finished though im prob gonna spend a lot of time manually farming up mats to upgrade my gear and then reprint for alch

[solar seal]

quack... resampling?? who are you, you imposter

[frigid swift]

ikr

but i need more mats to progress. esp with atoms

[bleak gazelle]

whats resampling

[frigid swift]

its hard to balance atoms/alch mats and vials mats.

[hasty harness]

what are those numbers?

my friend is strugling for krook and he says he has those numbers on his DK

[bleak gazelle]

does he have 81k accuracy for moles and are his talents setup right

[junior dune]

I think ace and kaito could give you a better answer than me tbh

[bleak gazelle]

aka does he have shockwave/statue as high as possible and refinery/boomerang leveled too

[frigid swift]

would have to see his stats but yea need enough accuracy, correct talents, and the dmg

just having the dmg isnt enough.

[hasty harness]

he says he has the acc

[frigid swift]

also is his character sheet dmg over 35m? or does he just hit for more than 35m. thats a difference too

[bleak gazelle]

yeah that's a big one too

[hasty harness]

hmm, he lied to me...

[frigid swift]

he prob saw that he was hitting 35m

[solar seal]

at least he has 240k accuracy

[hasty harness]

yeah, he said he saw the 35m showing

[solar seal]

hopefully he doesn't have that talent active nor the prayer

240k is overkill

[hasty harness]

no prayers

[bleak gazelle]

well, good news is he can probably change out cards to find damage there

[hasty harness]

note: he is shy so he wont show his IE so dont ask for it

[hasty harness]

cards he is using:

[bleak gazelle]

yep

[frigid swift]

oof

[bleak gazelle]

i assume he could drop all of that accuracy and be fine or at the very least just keep neptuneye

[frigid swift]

I cant say much. my cards are giga trash

[solar seal]

my man has 4* event cards, mad jealous

[frigid swift]

ya boy need to spend some time actually optimizing which cards to use lol

[hasty harness]

he didnt reach w6 yet LOL

[solar seal]

but yeah, he's prioritizing accuracy just a little too much

[frigid swift]

i ment me i need to optimize lol

[bleak gazelle]

See if he has OJ and Snowman card

[frigid swift]

but yes your friend does too. OJ is good, bloodbones are good nightmare troll is kinda OP

[bleak gazelle]

lke, those copper and oak cards are just...why

[frigid swift]

might 5 star my troll actually

[bleak gazelle]

also those event cards are passive

[hasty harness]

what is OJ?

[bleak gazelle]

citringe, sorry

[solar seal]

man i need to finish farming w5 cards

[hasty harness]

this?

[frigid swift]

thats a start.

[bleak gazelle]

oh, that's good

[solar seal]

just add snowman and thats most of the dmg*

[bleak gazelle]

these two, also?

[bleak gazelle]

ez, almost there

[frigid swift]

ez bump

litterally almost doubled

[solar seal]

can you ask them to share SS of their 4 tabs of talents

[bleak gazelle]

maybe one of these for last one

[frigid swift]

progress. if they really want they could also spend some time farming more OJ cards too.

while they work on other stuff like alch and stamps

[solar seal]

why is crabcake still in there?

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, one star on orange card should be easy

[lone marten]

What do i do when i get ""

[frigid swift]

i still use crab sometimes. mostly because im running lot on some pots

[bleak gazelle]

ideally link your highest level div person to it

since the minor link is based off of it

[lone marten]

Oh? I see okay 👍

[bleak gazelle]

but typically it'll be your 2nd SB or whoever checks boats the most

aka lab slave

[frigid swift]

is any of that booked? they should for sure book statue and boomerang

[lone marten]

Hmmm BM

[hasty harness]

i think he was working on that

[frigid swift]

also i found the one at the top right on tab 4 (currently at 51 points) is very useful.

[solar seal]

yeah if they booked a few important talents, i could see them easily hitting over 30M - very close to getting into 'smooth sailing' territory

[frigid swift]

pretty much yea

[hasty harness]

what are the prios?

[solar seal]

guessing you missed the jewel when it came around for ez 99% non-consume

[frigid swift]

prob

[hasty harness]

(i might have baited him a few days ago to put a book on bubo...)

[frigid swift]

statue, boomerang, the force wave on tab 4. all 3 are very good since he will be auto attacking quite a bit

[solar seal]

not in any order, just doing for ease of typing:
tab 1 - talents 5, 10
tab 2 - 3, 6, 7, 8, 9
tab 3 - 1 (actually very important), 6, 9, 10
tab 4 - 1, 5

doesn't even need to hit max, even like 20-30 more points across the board in all of these can provide big boost

also, tell him he only ever needs 1 point in tab 4 talent 3 (the respawn). extra points only provides c.dmg which is not important as he's still low on crit. better use those points in other talents

[solar seal]

kek. he's already doing it

[frigid swift]

as long as he can kill the moles fast enough

[solar seal]

my man wants in w6

[hasty harness]

he saw the light when he was killing the moles

when before he couldnt

(at least fast enought)

all we realy did was change cards right?

[solar seal]

nod, the 35M is to make it easy and cushy. the 30m is sufficient if rest of account is built sufficiently which it looks like his was

[bleak gazelle]

pretty much just cards, talents would have helped a bit, but we changed like all of his cards

[hasty harness]

update:

[solar seal]

my man had enough acc to get to 1st spirit lock in w6

[hasty harness]

he is saying auto doesnt work

since he has to step to the side

i call talent issue

[solar seal]

yeah his talents are low - so low skill damage - that's to be expected

[frigid swift]

prob doesnt have the dmg to just stationary it yet

[solar seal]

just needs to shuffle back and forth a bit

[hasty harness]

i was thinking maybe talent order issue

[solar seal]

left right left right

[frigid swift]

really for this fight the first 3 or 4 should be the only ones that matter

[hasty harness]

he is saying the issue is when they come from his back

[solar seal]

its really when statue is on CD and getting bad procs from auto

[hasty harness]

i did with ES so that wasnt an issue

[solar seal]

just tell him to swap from left to right every so often to make sure the auto proc on boss sends the shockwave

[frigid swift]

slowly but surely

[solar seal]

then swap when that one side feels clear

this'll be like 15-25 min fight cause low talents

[frigid swift]

yeh as long as he can keep up with the swaps he can win.

but if he starts slacking kruk will just healback up

[pastel kayak]

I think I need to level that star talent

[frigid swift]

i dont even know where i got that talent from but it was 300 when i got it

I got super lucky with mega crit. 1 book and it was 100 lol

[solar seal]

its merit shop

[frigid swift]

ohhhh i prob maxed it before i even payed attention thyen lol

[bleak gazelle]

ehh, there are better priorities if you have them unlocked

[hasty harness]

hmmm

[solar seal]

its an ok talent for extra points, but it doesn't get boosted by all stats

[frigid swift]

thats a terrible skillbar set up imo

[hasty harness]

yeah...

[bleak gazelle]

yeah that's part of it

honestly if we change that he'll probably be fine

[frigid swift]

statue > boomerang > Forcewave > litterally anything else because its a boss

[hasty harness]

what is the order?

[solar seal]

my man put skills on bar as he unlocked the class/sub/elite > then never moved them

[pastel kayak]

https://deirdreamber.idleonefficiency.com/players? @bleak gazelle my talents are ok?

[frigid swift]

mine are getting there.

[terse verge]

Why is your flag leveled?

[bleak gazelle]

max your orb and drop the points in King of the Remembered, since your 2nd DK already has it

[frigid swift]

because im dumb. and dont wanna respec

however, due to having a leveled flag it forced me to make big changes which gained me a shit load more dmg

[hasty harness]

soon i will be asking w6 guide

because i dont remember starting w6

[frigid swift]

w6 is portal opening simulator

[hasty harness]

i remember something about using the fertilizer in right time

and the sneaking skip on right time too

but dont remember those times

[terse verge]

Farming zzzz

[frigid swift]

me either. i just made it up as i went

[hasty harness]

i know you can get softlocked for 1 day if done wrong

also 😮

[frigid swift]

nice

[terse verge]

Wow. Your friend is one lucky soab

[hasty harness]

this is me

[frigid swift]

^

[hasty harness]

that cant even drop on base krook...

[terse verge]

Well then. You are one lucky soab

[hasty harness]

yeah...

[terse verge]

Yes it can

[frigid swift]

i burned 2200 keys yesterday and didnt get one. got 4 obols tho

[terse verge]

Just very rare. I’ve gotten 4 so far from normal

[frigid swift]

This should be fun lol

[hasty harness]

what i do with it now?

[terse verge]

You save it until you finish ^ that task to make the divine scarf

[hasty harness]

this one?

[frigid swift]

yep

[terse verge]

I’m on my phone or otherwise i would link you the recipe

[frigid swift]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/The_Divine_Scarf

[hasty harness]

i can craft it 😮

[terse verge]

Not until you finish the task

[hasty harness]

just no recipe

so what was the things to do on w6 starting?

he just beat it

[terse verge]

Just gotta do town quest like every other world

[hasty harness]

i remember you needed to use the skips on the sneaking on the right order

or else you were screwed

[frigid swift]

i believe the quest tells you when to use it

[terse verge]

^

[hasty harness]

ok

[terse verge]

Or you can just wait it out and save the skip for later

[hasty harness]

hmm, vman has an issue..

they come soo many...

he gets some damage done

but then the boss heals back to full ...

look at this...

[proud pumice]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message here's how to do it

[hasty harness]

😮

also i was doing it similar to that but with auto

the R trick i didnt knew

do i lose progress on the achiv if i do with another char?

[proud pumice]

need to do them in order for the mission

[hasty harness]

but lets say i do with 1,2,3 4

and then i do with 6, do i lose all progress?

and have to do with 1 2 3 4 again?

[gentle furnace]

no

[hasty harness]

:F

who deserves this the most?

[frigid swift]

noice

[junior dune]

You will probably move it around quite a bit

[hasty harness]

then what stones should i put?

[proud pumice]

or grind 10 of them, one for each char

[junior dune]

I would say BB for schows or SB for pushing death note

[hasty harness]

i was thinking bubo for CC

[frigid swift]

that def makes sense given the stats

[junior dune]

That takes time but I imagine that's the goal eventually

[frigid swift]

you afk with BB or SB more than any others

[proud pumice]

more than time that takes keys

[junior dune]

CC doesn't benefit from respawn or AFK gains

[junior dune]

Not if you do normal kruk. Then time is definitely the limiting factor

[proud pumice]

if you grind those necklaces by using normal kruk that's scary

[junior dune]

One normal boss is like 0.6 keys since you get some keys back as drops

[hasty harness]

so archers are the bets users for it?

[junior dune]

You want the gems as well

[frigid swift]

archer or warrior since BB is an afk powerhouse

[proud pumice]

fair

[hasty harness]

so this is the archer scarf for now

next one will be warrior one

where is best place to get kattlekruk cape»

what dificulty?

[frigid swift]

cape is nightmare only right?

ye according to wiki its nightmare only

[hasty harness]

so yeah

i got the quest to drop wing and have scarf activated

[balmy garnet]

i keep forgeting how mat cheap scarf is lol

[solar seal]

the waiting game

[frigid swift]

i neglect quests so hard

like out of everything in this game quests get the most neglect

[solar seal]

its not a bad thing. there's only a few that really need to be done

[short sparrow]

I only do the quests that give stamps or important stuff like that

[frigid swift]

yeh i need to go back and do a few that give stamps i dont have

and storage space that i didnt get

[solar seal]

i just prioritized the kruk quest in the very slim but off chance i happened on cape drop when i did the first clear on all 10 for the task

[proud pumice]

i'd never neglect quests

[frigid swift]

Same

[solar seal]

at least its active on everyone so you can slowly get the 100k, i did the same at least

[proud pumice]

i'm not even sure i have accepted the quest on everyone lol

[frigid swift]

lol

[solar seal]

if the circle is orange, should mean they accepted it... or at least i hope

[frigid swift]

orange is accepted. green is complete

[proud pumice]

true, if they didn't it'd be ggrey

[frigid swift]

i swore i had more statues done than that for mono.

[solar seal]

BB aint completing 100k statues any time soon

[frigid swift]

oh well

i can worry more about mono quests when i actually unlock vial mastery. and get more vials up

[solar seal]

vials are my pain point right now, 21 of the 27 needed for 100%

then i can finally free up an entire box in storage

[frigid swift]

I havnt messed with mine in a while. Mostly i need to reprint and prioritize either vials or alch.

The dang ingot ones and anvil ones are a pain tho

[solar seal]

there's that word coming out of quack's mouth again... "reprint"... you imposter

[frigid swift]

lol

[proud pumice]

one of them was not ready

[solar seal]

60k kapow statues

yuge

[bleak gazelle]

Ah, think I hit 27 or 28 yesterday

[proud pumice]

that got me 50 kapow lvls, now i need w6 nightmare boss to have ridiculous health so that i have a use for those kapow

[tiny lantern]

For the quest that gives the fivine trophy, do you have to have the quest active in order for the wing drop to count?

[solar seal]

cape can drop regardless of whether quest is active. but quest must be active in order for objective to be completed, it isn't retroactive

[tiny lantern]

i was farming it on my vman and realized I hadn;t reached that point in the questline, but now that im at that point, it wont update the quest progression

[tiny lantern]

thanks, was asking if the quest had to be active in order for the objective to get completed

[red mauve]

You can get the drop but you wont complete the quest.

[solar seal]

not retroactive, you must get another cape

[tiny lantern]

that sucks lol

got my first cape tho

[red mauve]

I know I did the same thing.

[tiny lantern]

so thats cool

[tiny lantern]

ouch

[pastel kayak]

Just got done sorting them out 3200 in the box my friend said

[frigid swift]

I should DK for hampters right? since they are not first item on card

[bleak gazelle]

ES

it's not a crystal drop

[frigid swift]

I thought ES was only for the first item on card. ill never be good at this game! 😛

Another 500 down.

[bleak gazelle]

i need to finish the last 4 levels on BM

[frigid swift]

gross

[bleak gazelle]

did all that active time and got so close

[frigid swift]

i gotta swap all my DR stuff to my ES tomorrow

so i can farm hampters for the 5 days im away ill just leave it up on my pc

[bleak gazelle]

better filter out everything

[frigid swift]

pretty much

figure i would benifit more from hampters than i would leaving him at suggma :C

[bleak gazelle]

let's see what today's charms are

yuge

decent

[frigid swift]

3 mins and ill see what i get

lol that +9 and +8

[bleak gazelle]

aww yiss

[frigid swift]

rip

[bleak gazelle]

nb nb

[gilded sedge]

Why rip this is big

[frigid swift]

big if you do stamps 😛

[gilded sedge]

Even if you don't its big

[bleak gazelle]

NSLB got that for you

[pastel kayak]

Had put one of my alts back on mining gold has not get allot a hour

[south agate]

Could there be a reason I'm not getting the rare resource from islands? I've had most of my ships on the third island for days and haven't gotten the rare drop once. Two ships farming for fury relic and I'm getting that islands rare drops constantly

[bleak gazelle]

just rng, unfortunately, as far as we know
not sure why it happens, but it happens to plenty of people with various islands

[rapid rover]

@bleak gazelle 🙂

[frigid swift]

That will work.

[stable whale]

Imagine getting decent nuggets :(

[frigid swift]

you have no idea how long that took me lol

[stable whale]

I can imagine haha

[rapid rover]

More than 10 minutes at least

[south agate]

I was about to ask how long lol. I've been stuck on 5k for 2 months

[frigid swift]

shame im ignoring gaming atm too lol

[bleak gazelle]

should be saved if you've checked the mirror anytime recently

confirmed it myself

[frigid swift]

ive checked the mirror a lot since i maxed chems.

my clouds are trash lol

[stable whale]

You can probably do vengeful grandfrogger at this point

[frigid swift]

maybe. too lazy

[stable whale]

Fair lol

oh shit only one more to go

[pastel kayak]

I got 14 to go @stable whale

[stable whale]

It be like that

[frigid swift]

I lost a few when i was doing crafting

[pastel kayak]

I need to steal them @frigid swift

[stable whale]

Okay I got the beanstalk
How do you farm golden foods?

[ebon helm]

how do you get a card to 5 star, besides rubifier?

[frigid swift]

DK and pain

[frigid swift]

rift

[stable whale]

Is it crystal farms?
This is gonna take forever then lmao

[frigid swift]

it used to be colo. but i think i recall it got nerfed at some poiint im not sure tho

it was during one of my breaks

[stable whale]

I'm statue farming right now anyway but I only got ~4k golden nomwiches from it so

:(

[scenic nimbus]

W5 my favorite world so far

[visual grail]

Question I was at the giant wurms in w5 and I got a record where I killed 200 wurms in 90 sec

So for what is it

[frigid swift]

tome i think

[pastel kayak]

What food to green stack next?

[junior dune]

W5 shop food

[rapid rover]

Anybody know why my blessing bonus is showing as +0? (I have doot)

[stuck river]

U need to upgrade that

-Doot user

[lean spindle]

can anyone tell the bonus of 1st megafish

can anybody tell