lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[hard grove]

How many kills are needed to open the portal?

and you might get more kph if you remove the prayer idk tho

[frigid swift]

keep in mind thats only if your afking. and its bad because your afk rate is super low

[main kettle]

let me check

95k

[hard grove]

ehh itll get done in about 6 hours

the rams are much harder to kill tho

[main kettle]

yeahhh that’s the issue

[hard grove]

I can straight up wear the devious slippers of the diving despite not even having troll armor...

[main kettle]

I was meant to do WIS in these but I put STR instead and now I wasted them

[hard grove]

why are grounded nano chips permanently sold out for me? I have 2 equipped and 0 in my storage?

[hard grove]

still damage

[main kettle]

eh true

[hexed lark]

are symbols of beyond account wide?

[main kettle]

No it isn’t

[hard grove]

the only account wide one is ES family bonus

[hexed lark]

;-;

[hard grove]

and technically bear god but you have to individually link to them

[hexed lark]

still so far from bubo farming then

need 200 tenteyecle

[hard grove]

what does a 3x all mean when fishing up shiny fish in poppy?

[frigid swift]

means you get triple the fish from that shiny catch

i.e if you had 1 yellow shiny you would get 3

[nova lynx]

The numbers in your shiny catch change to reflect the multipliers

[fierce meadow]

can someone tell me some bout secret upgrades in kangaroo

[nova lynx]

I’ve been bubo farming with like 170 tent. It isn’t OP like 200 tent but still pretty solid to wake up to 10 tries in each cauldron

[hard grove]

oh ok

[main kettle]

just to make sure. nothings wrong with my talents right

[fiery wagon]

Your book level is too low, you're overvaluing base strength and missing some points in the most important talents in tab 1/2/4 while ignoring construction exp and build rate in 3 altogether which you shouldn't imo

Also assuming you're active DK dont need first 2 abilities in tab 2 at all

[main kettle]

oh ok

[bleak gazelle]

more progress

[strange pond]

Im early w5 is it worth pushing my main to w6 or getting my other characters ready too?

[wise spindle]

How long do Sprouts take to grow? Is it based on the 2nd upgrade?

[frigid swift]

a lot of things factor into sprout growth. ik.e upgrades, kitsune, etc

[bleak gazelle]

Completely depends on where your pusher's damage is. Check out the 2nd 📌 for a infographic for w5 boss

W5 is normally where you'll have to make some hard backtracking in order to progress

[strange pond]

K thanks

[steep kiln]

There is one external multiplier to sprout growth in W6 that isn't displayed in the fertilizer page when looking at gaming. Like mine says 1.3min cycle but they respawn in like 5 seconds

[wise spindle]

Im early W5, is this the time it will take?

From what i understand, its best to let it grow fully before harvesting

[steep kiln]

Yeah without w6 that time should be accurate. Squirrel, fertilizer and kitsune are your options for decreasing that time

Gaming is a very long haul of a mechanic that requires lots of luck and is quite time gated.

[frigid swift]

yeh it starts giga slow then it gets faster and faster

[steep kiln]

And then gets really slow again

Stupid snail

[bleak gazelle]

stupid nugget

[wise spindle]

ye, i don't know what those are, but im sure i will find out

[frigid swift]

i dont have snail yet. im lazy and just have 15 chem plants sitting

[wise spindle]

Dvinity is so slow, its driving me crazy

[steep kiln]

I have a good nugget but I can't get snail up. Spent 21 mail to go from 12 to 11

[bleak gazelle]

Do you have mutations unlocked yet?

[frigid swift]

if it helps. my next god unlock is 60 million div points

[wise spindle]

nah, i don't think i do, i reached w5 less than 24h ago

[bleak gazelle]

Ah, yeah, then letting it sit is fine then. Once you unlock mutations (the tab under Fertilizer), the normal gameplay loop is quantity > quality so you can roll for new ones

[wise spindle]

i failed a 50% for the first god, felt so bad 😅

[bleak gazelle]

it do be like that

[wise spindle]

ye, mine is 98 points 😁

[bleak gazelle]

if possible, i'd roll the left choice until the middle choice becomes 100% then just wait for that, especially for the first 2 gods

[wise spindle]

ye, im trying to decide what to do.. im so close to the 50%, i will just give it a try, if it fails, i will do the 100%

[bleak gazelle]

fair enough. also if you really want to keep playing the game, feel free to take one person out and go work on some previous world stuff. not the most efficient, technically, but it's still a game and most people play to have some type of fun

[wise spindle]

ye, im a bit underlevled, i will have someone out leveling. DK is 175 while the others are are +/- 100

[frigid swift]

we are allowed to have fun?!

[bleak gazelle]

depends on the kind of fun

bruh

[frigid swift]

bruh i went from 11,350 to 11,498 i dont wanna hear it lol

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, that happened on my previous upgrade, 841k to 849k

[frigid swift]

struggle

like just give me a 1m jump. lol

[main kettle]

:D

[bleak gazelle]

you can have decimals?

[frigid swift]

need more KPK :C these portals are nuts

[main kettle]

what are decimals :o

[bleak gazelle]

the .

[main kettle]

huh

[bleak gazelle]

well the .7, i guess

[frigid swift]

yes you can lol

[main kettle]

o ye

what is this

[bleak gazelle]

probably

[main kettle]

o and what dose it do

[frigid swift]

eats your nuts

[main kettle]

i dont want that :c

[frigid swift]

and gives bonuses

[main kettle]

good ones orr

[junior dune]

Damage is very important if you have just a multi kill tier or two. Hourly clicking bubble 1 is huge for that

[main kettle]

if this is my KPH, active would be better right

[bleak gazelle]

active will nearly always be better

[main kettle]

okay

[bleak gazelle]

bruh

well, 559x to 775x so not a complete waste...but seriously?

[frigid swift]

rip

how many MF you up to 5?

[bleak gazelle]

0

[frigid swift]

o

[junior dune]

None of my hour plus claims have had any fish 3 to 6

[bleak gazelle]

but i have no desire to sit here since i'm trying to push this spice for jewel

[junior dune]

I guess I should try to actually care about fish, but I'm generally just annoyed by it

[bleak gazelle]

same

[frigid swift]

feel that

im up to 8 feathers on owl and im like....i just dont care anymore

[junior dune]

It's quite decent fishing efficiency for example

[junior dune]

You should have some fast but boring feathers ahead of you

[wild forum]

should i focus first island ancients or unlock artifacts for speed?

[junior dune]

Tusk for artifact chance probably

[frigid swift]

farming is whats really killing me atm. its so slow lol

im only 28

[short sparrow]

Try to get the bonus from sneaking, it boosts your w6 exp

[molten pilot]

the (passive) on world 5 cards means i get the bonus without equipping them right? im reading that correctly?

[short sparrow]

Skill exp I should say

[short sparrow]

Yes

[molten pilot]

perfect

[frigid swift]

bruh where did hte w6 town constellation go. i litterally just clicked on it lol

[bleak gazelle]

gotta wait for the camera to pan. may need to rezone into town sometimes to get it to work

it's kinda dumb

[frigid swift]

it really is lol

[chilly anvil]

in sailing how can i increase the odds of the second ressources of each island ??

[strong nexus]

so bore i could unlock my tier 6 craft table.....but i missing 2 level and it take a eternity to gain them

[zinc torrent]

how many star signs are available and how many will there be if lava finished seraph
cuz mine says this rn
You have 87 infinite star signs

[strong nexus]

im not sure what you trying to said you mean you have 87 point why you didnt unlock any star whit them

[hard grove]

I got my first ancient artifact earlier (the cat one from the first island)

[strong nexus]

im still praying for my first eldritch

[hard grove]

and also unlocked the totem health in the superbits store ( Igot it while progressing to MSA totalizer)

[bleak gazelle]

I think if you have 37 pet levels then you should have enough for all available stars at the moment. 75 stars?

[zinc torrent]

sry if confusing
i wanna know how many star signs are available and should i get those shiny lv up for future star signs

[bleak gazelle]

Err, 78 maybe?

Should be in autoreview under breeding, they say 37 pet levels is fine

[hard grove]

I finally got my weapon and skull upgraded

and w1 1m kills done so just w2 and 3 left

Now I just need squishy souls, starfire, nullo, and full troll 🙂

[modern iris]

how can u maximise anvil production? grinding for thingamabobs takes so long

[bleak gazelle]

max points in speed, all production on thread. if you candy, make sure you claim anvil so that it doesn't cap

if you need more capacity, upgrade your Material Capacity bags/stamp

[hard grove]

Bruh this 1.53x artifact find chance would've been nice to get my first ancient

also 78 nugget!

[scarlet geyser]

I have just completed the W5 Colloseum and can claim my prize.

[strong nexus]

there 90 star in the systeme but each starsing you find have a diferent point valu

[scarlet geyser]

The prize: Enough Frozen Souls for the W4 anvil tab.

[strong nexus]

there less star sign than star

[bleak gazelle]

Should be 92 if you're counting the unreleased ones

[scarlet geyser]

Now I have just one small problem...

[strong nexus]

probably

is just miss counted

[scarlet geyser]

...okay, nevermind. I do have a character at level 50 Smithing - just.

[molten pelican]

Sorry for this sad post, I just wanna make sure that it's not just me - or is it? Bug or cursed; you choose

[frigid swift]

cursed is what i hear

[bleak gazelle]

remember that multikill doesn't affect rare drops. a decent tracker you can use is how many Royal Urns you've gotten. About 1k is average time to get the recipe, but I've seen a number of people get up to 2-4k before the recipe drops

So i'm gonna say cursed 🙃

averages and whatnot

[frigid swift]

Ace whats yuur vman dmg at these days

[bleak gazelle]

no clue. i did NM kruk pretty fast though and that was before I made too much progress into w6 i think

[molten pelican]

As always, I'm just starting to loose hope. And I don't know if it's cuz the card says it's already found (?)

[frigid swift]

not yet found if it shows on card

[bleak gazelle]

Recipes on cards will show in three ways

• If it is black, you have not found any recipe of that tab type
• If it is lit up, you have found any recipe of that tab type
• If it isn't showing, you have learned that recipe (or there wasn't a drop on that mob)

I had 225b about a month ago after a level push #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

How many of these do you have?

[molten pelican]

Agreed, but suggma only drops one recipie and it's lit up. Only have 642 saved

[bleak gazelle]

Recipe item shows the same across all monster cards, so if you've found any tab 5 recipe drop, then it will show lit up on all w5 monster cards

[molten pelican]

Ah, cool. Thought it was monster-specific

I'll give it a few hundred hours more before I'll come back to rant xD Thank you

[bleak gazelle]

What's your DR at?

[molten pelican]

11.98x

[bleak gazelle]

I'd probably just work on something else that can give you progress, tbh. There's load of other active things that you can do to increase either DR or other account buffs

[molten pelican]

yeah, most of my chars are stuck at skydoggies, just wanted to complete "cracking the kruk! 10" - currently stuck on my beginner and wanted to get new gloves

[bleak gazelle]

I can confirm from personal experience that you don't need the gloves to complete that one how are your vman skill levels?

[bleak gazelle]

Ah, sorry, actual skill levels. A lot of power is tied to this talent

[molten pelican]

lvl 61 lowest skill, lvl 173 skillage damage - total bonus 465% dmg

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, so that's something you can work on. I'm at level 254 talent which is 42%, so not too much of a difference, but the extra 26 levels increases that

for reference. just talents, no obols/cards/set. When I did nm kruk on vman a month ago I had about 185-225b damage I think

[frigid swift]

damn. boi is stronk even with lab ring

actually way stronger than even my strongest

[bleak gazelle]

i got lucky with rolling 10k golden tickets for kebabs

[molten pelican]

23'831m -52'784,6m - I'm lacking alot of dmg

[frigid swift]

this is what happens when you do Alch properly lol. you end up like Ace and not me

[bleak gazelle]

Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, artifacts, divinities, owl, dungeon flurbos, and talents are all sources of damage
On top of that, all the w6 stuff, unlocking new plants, beanstalk grilled cheese and kebabs, summoning bonuses, getting to higher TD waves for MSA bonuses

Honestly I don't even think i've been doing too much alch recently besides letting NBLB hit stuff

summoning and new crops from farming have probably been carrying me

[molten pelican]

have the 10k bonus from stalk kebab and grilled cheese. 7,2x total dmg from summoning, 840% dmg from crops

[frigid swift]

my stalk is sad

[molten pelican]

tot.dmg 349% from slab

[frigid swift]

and last i heard kebabs from colo got nerfed

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, that's why i gamba'd my tickets

[bleak gazelle]

not too bad on the % from w6, probably better than where I was at when I tried. I'd probaby just work on skilling and some more talent levels, if possible. Can also throw more p oints into Yellow 1

[molten pelican]

king tut pet - so should have +51% tot dmg from 'kattlekruk' and +21% from flutterbis

[bleak gazelle]

Honestly your slab % is slightly better than mine, I just happened to get sovereign yesterday to bump up to 440%

[sage zealot]

i LOVE resampling

[molten pelican]

+361% dmg from 'The tome'

[frigid swift]

i need to work on getting skilling obols

like a full set for each type

that would zoom my prints so hard

[sage zealot]

are skilling obols an actual big deal?

[bleak gazelle]

oh shit, speaking of tome, guess I got enough levels and got a new line

[hard grove]

whats the upgrade that makes gold nugget less rng based?

[frigid swift]

its from equinox

[hard grove]

oh nvm metal detector

[molten pelican]

Don't steal mine, I'm fighting to stay in the top 25%

Turkey lvl 41 - +82% dmg, octoplop lvl 34 - +68% dmg, onion lvl 26 - +78% dmg, massive fig lvl 26 - +78% dmg. Maybe should work more on cooking

[frigid swift]

someday ill get back to cooking

after i finish my 100m on rift kills

and my leek lock

[molten pelican]

+63% dmg from MSA

[sage zealot]

if you can hit 41 turkey your onion and massive fig should be way higher

[bleak gazelle]

how much luck does your vman have?

[molten pelican]

6639

[bleak gazelle]

do you have points in this tab 2 talent?

[molten pelican]

On this build yes, but not when I tried the boss

as this was for looting the recipie

[bleak gazelle]

got an IE/IT you can share?

[molten pelican]

Not familiar with those abbriviations (I'm old as the road and English isn't my first language)

[frigid swift]

!it

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[molten pelican]

Changed to my boss build; 38'207m- 84'626,4m dmg

[bleak gazelle]

!ie They're both helper tools that allow you to analyze your account a bit easier

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger

[bleak gazelle]

Ah, honestly, you should be pretty close then. You could trying candying some skill levels to get more damage from that one talent we talked about earlier.

[frigid swift]

wish i could give yall lsome peals. all my skills that i can pearl are 50 already

[bleak gazelle]

Honestly couldn't tell it wasn't your first language

I wish he'd just change Flutterbis to do something else

[frigid swift]

theres a lot of things i wish lol

[serene coral]

how does the elephant god work? i feel like when it says "1 hour to 3D printer" it just doesnt work

[frigid swift]

like the dang new classes

[red mauve]

It rounds your afk time up. So 2 min reads as 1 hour but ... its just 2 min.

[strong shale]

It rounds to the nearest hour

[serene coral]

so its not actually an hour its whatever time it was

then what is the 2min claims everyone talks about

[red mauve]

Those are for smiting on your archer or splicing DNA.

[bleak gazelle]

2 minute claims are typically for Forge progress (bar smelting) through archer's tab 2 talent

[serene coral]

ok thank you guys

[spiral path]

I finally managed it, had to put all my best stuff on VW, but I managed to squeeze just enough damage that I overcame the healing and just auto's

I don't know if you were around yesterday, but the cape dropped on my 10th character's kill and he didn't have the quest... I never expected my lowest DR character to get the drop... woops

we need a "Buy max" toggle for feather... late game restarts take so long to buy everything

[fallow aurora]

thats been suggested a lot and lava still hasn't added it

[serene coral]

golden food farm and active thing? and what dr should i be looking for to start

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, I saw that

[bleak gazelle]

Yes, most of it is from crystal farming, which you can reasonably start around 10x DR with choco chip and with DK. Special consideration for Bubo if you need to CC, also

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084925174517866496 should be a list in there of where to farm the more farmable ones, can pair it with statue farming. Check 📌 here or in w3/4 chat

[serene coral]

if i dont have choco chip should i just wait on the crystal farming

[bleak gazelle]

Depends on your DR, if you're around 10 then I'd probably wait and work on other stuff, if you're above then it's doable, just ~4x slower (at least for statues, unsure of exact rate for g.food)

[serene coral]

okay thank you, appreciate it

[bleak gazelle]

In the meantime, can always work on your cards (card DR, DR, crystal spawn %, shrine %) with ES (and VMan for c.Chiz)

[serene coral]

vman for what?

the scarves?

[bleak gazelle]

boss cards

[serene coral]

ohhh i understand

[bleak gazelle]

it's the shrine effect card to help with crystal spawn shrine, in particular

[serene coral]

yeah i got like 70 left for 5 star

[pastel kayak]

Finally got my laptop back from mum @bleak gazelle

[bleak gazelle]

i should go farm some cards

[serene coral]

im guessing drop rate affects card drop chance

[pastel kayak]

https://deirdreamber.idleonefficiency.com/ @bleak gazelle thinking I updated all I can for now

That stamp can not upgrade yet

[bleak gazelle]

Still no journeyman/maestro yet?

[hard grove]

say you afk kill 25000 tremor wurms I heard you get a guarenteed key is that right?

[bleak gazelle]

assuming it's the same as other afk drops, you'd have to kill a base 50k (i.e. before multikill/2x lab and div bonuses/kpk bonuses) to get a guaranteed 2x drop. not sure if you can guarantee 1x drops
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[bright meteor]

How's lab going

[pastel kayak]

Yes still none of them @bleak gazelle

[bright meteor]

I'll claim my lab gains soon

[hard grove]

does claiming shiny fish when over 100% do anything?

or should I always claim at 100%

[pastel kayak]

Doing rift 2 how long does the 3rd item takes to drop?

[main kettle]

get this or save up for purpel salt

[strong shale]

you can get those

remember u have multiple ppl that use the same stat so

once u upgrade to troll on one u can move those to the others

yay https://i.imgur.com/jSVFLUf.png first scarf inc

[pastel kayak]

@strong shale do you ever sleep?

[strong shale]

mhm!

i slept around when you pinged me

[pastel kayak]

Not believe you

https://deirdreamber.idleonefficiency.com/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2sCn9Dtkoh8hbJfc0iV9UaPTmBOuNLqZOGlrytWln3lE2mEmZdCq0T7XM_aem_lse9wcwj7HnwzywxGalGFw think I fixed up my sailing right

[strong shale]

yep!

youre missing another island that is close to you that you can unlock

https://i.imgur.com/YLBpmvR.png

otherwise though it looks good!

10/11 worked https://i.imgur.com/eR8vEO9.png

good enough for my first one :p

[pastel kayak]

Would take over 8 hours I think

[strong shale]

nono, i think it would be quick if you use the higher speed boats you have

[pastel kayak]

Not sure what speed m boats are

[strong shale]

https://deirdreamber.idleonefficiency.com/world-5/sailing

it shows the speed, like the ideal distance

you want your ideal distance to be as close to the island distance as possible

with ideal being a bigger number

[pastel kayak]

Will change later

I unlocked rift 3 this morning @strong shale

[strong shale]

good!!!

keep trying on those

[pastel kayak]

Was only 2nd try on rift 2

[hasty harness]

another one

[oak crane]

how do you get alot of chest slots

[pastel kayak]

I have brought some with gems some with coins others gotten has drops from monsters @oak crane

[oak crane]

oh no i meant sailing lol

[pastel kayak]

Not sure about sailing

[zinc torrent]

gemshop, relic, achievement

[oak crane]

oh okay thank you

[oak crane]

thank you for trying tho

[pastel kayak]

@strong shale I did get my laptop back from my mum this morning

[torpid pier]

How ~many weeks / months would it take an experienced player to reach w5 on a second account?

[thin inlet]

are these blessing active even if no character is linked to it?

[sage zealot]

yea

[strong shale]

the bottom yes, not the minor link

[strong sand]

i have mestro but i dont have pete the peanut in my slab

how do i get the peanut back

is there a slab check?

[solar seal]

like many of us, we will never get pete for slab, it will forever be missing

[strong sand]

is lava gonna fix the issue?

[solar seal]

tech there is no issue. there are several items that you can get soft-locked from slab and pete is oneo f them

[strong sand]

could he make it reclaimable?

[solar seal]

you aren't the first and you won't be the last who've asked to make it reclaimable. no change as of yet

[gilded sedge]

F2p with autoloot 3 weeks is probably doable

Even less maybe

[main kettle]

gear looks ok? am farming smithing levels so i can craft the caustic blankey

[pastel kayak]

@strong shale my main now

[spiral path]

obviously I should be going for level 13 in all vials for even more mastery, but now that I have snakekin vial at 100% (and turned in all my statues for some very nice bonuses), is there a priority for which vials I should active on my ES, or should I just keep going in order? Currently on wrappers.

[main kettle]

should i candy it or save ma candies

[torpid pier]

Thank you 🫡

[solar seal]

generally its in order - but the mob materials you want to only be supplementing what you can print using vman speedrun with what you get on ES. grinding out 1.1B mats generally probably not a good use of your time

[spiral path]

yeah, I'd been focusing on ones with extra materials or keys, which is why I wanted to skip wrappers to go to stillted seekers

and the suggmas

[solar seal]

the w6 ones you might consider rushing as they are very useful (outside of the untying one) - but i don't know how prepped you are for that

[spiral path]

my ES is level 442, with 720B dmg and 15% DR

I could focus on rice cakes, as that one seems pretty important

[solar seal]

you could probably easily lvl 8-10 the vials and can always circle back and finish while benefitting from the stronger bonuses

[spiral path]

I can one shot the crystals at rice cakes, so I guess I'll give it a try. Thanks!

looks like Wormhole max of 127

Golden food are a nice bonus on top

[main kettle]

woho finally

[solar seal]

little trick to be aware of. after you get 1 mirror, every one has access to both rams + bones. just port using mirror and then walk backwards. how you can easily get the constellation on bone map w/ no extra work

[main kettle]

whats this?

[echo crag]

rare drop from suggma

[hard grove]

is the fishstonks or whatever upgrade in poppy worth it?

[bleak gazelle]

so close

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle what one to save for?

[bleak gazelle]

Ehh, bunny isn't super critical, so you can go either if you want

getting to Purrmep kind of is though so

[fallow aurora]

it worked ace

[hard grove]

what does purrmep do again?

oh its that one

[bleak gazelle]

wait what worked?

[bleak gazelle]

you can onyx without buying it?

ggs though

finally got 1 purple fish, multi went up 200x

[strong shale]

you do 1 reset right

for fish, then perma bonuses?

[bleak gazelle]

1 reset, aim for like 18-20 investment then go for 1st mega reset i think?

[strong shale]

Wait whats this fisheroo reset? is that the MF?

[bleak gazelle]

no, that's the regular one

[strong shale]

so just regular reset whenever

[strong shale]

oh 1 reset then you just scale it

[bleak gazelle]

1 fisheroo reset, then pump investment, then greatest catch

[strong shale]

sure

[bleak gazelle]

i don't know when you do the next fisheroo reset

i'm so beyond caring about this one

[strong shale]

whats the points for

for the bonus, does it matter?

im just lost when it comes to this

since i stopped caring about owl

[bleak gazelle]

#endgame-gen-chat message

[strong shale]

oh well i already used my pts on

6x blue 4x orange which is fine ig

[bleak gazelle]

not the best, but in the end it doesn't matter too much

as long as you don't regular reset too much

I think the Bonus Point ratio is like 2-2-1-5-3

idk how often that pin is being updated by trickz

[pastel kayak]

I done 1 normal reset and 2 mf reset now

[bleak gazelle]

still working on pushing investment some more

[pastel kayak]

I got that to about 25 for first mega mf @bleak gazelle

[solar seal]

the hardest part of fish is not accidentally clicking reset after being trained in owl to just faceroll all the upgrades til you can't do anymore

[short jacinth]

should i open my sailing chests whenever i can or no ?

[rocky ginkgo]

i know it recommends 35M dmg for DK but what damage is it possible to beat kruk on, currently sitting at 20.5M

[bleak gazelle]

30 definitely, below that, not sure

[rocky ginkgo]

Cause i dont mind the amount of time it will take, i can leave the game running for a couple hours

[bleak gazelle]

basically whatever you need to 1-2 shot the moles on the map outside of the boss room

[solar seal]

should easily be able to get at least a few keys (kill your w5 minis if you haven't yet) - can always test run whether you can just overnight it if you really want to limit test it

[short sparrow]

First megafish 😌

I only did one regular reset for that lol

[scenic nimbus]

Is it ideal to use colosseum tickets in W5 or should I save them for W6

[gentle furnace]

Thats how its recommended to do

[bleak gazelle]

I would save them all until you're ready to farm for gfood, unless you're trying to complete the quest chain for the trophy

[scenic nimbus]

Thank you

[fierce cargo]

is there a sailing ez access/quickref

the wiki is down :(((

[bleak gazelle]

seems fine to me

[solar seal]

you still active-ing bm ace?

saw you almost done w/ the spice

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle just got my 3rd green stack

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, let me see how close i am

[bleak gazelle]

good, good, 17 more to go

[peak summit]

how do i stretch the game out to not have borders?

[bleak gazelle]

would be great if my converter would proc more than once a month on this spice...

[bleak gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[bleak gazelle]

save me

[pastel kayak]

Yep have 2 chopping 1 mining 1 killing in the sewers and 6 on alter in world 5 @bleak gazelle

[bleak gazelle]

lemme see if i can get some omni procs

[pastel kayak]

2 are printing the same ore

[peak summit]

?

[solar seal]

redid samples.. my logs have crossed into hourly click threshold. i'm happy and sad at same time

[bleak gazelle]

The only way i've found that you can do it is to move your taskbar to the side, otherwise you can manually size the window to remove the bars, but you won't be "fullscreen"

I remember to click my orange and green bubbles once...when I can

[peak summit]

ah damn okay thanks, also any idea on how much damage i need to beat w5 boss? just tried him and i basically did nothing :c

[pastel kayak]

That is why I use my iPad for screen shots @bleak gazelle

[peak summit]

damn...

50-80m kinda rough

[bleak gazelle]

probably 50-60, SB is a bit rough since their AOE is a bit weird

[pastel kayak]

Trying to green stack iron now @bleak gazelle

[peak summit]

yeah my other classes are no way near that, they're all around 3-6m

[peak summit]

anything that gives a ton of damage straight up?

[bleak gazelle]

Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, artifacts, divinities, owl, dungeon flurbos, and talents are all sources of damage
Most of those are going to be incremental sources apart from unlocking a new artifact. For gemshop, getting the W6 Emperor damage multi card or Phoenix Wings bundle are pretty big

[peak summit]

ah, yeah i haven't bothered with starsigns, probably a bit of damage in there

[bleak gazelle]

owo what's this one

yooo

[solar seal]

winner bonus?

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, 2nd page has a nice one

Ancient rubics cube artifact should be possible since it's first island. Regular Fury artifact if you've been in w5 for a bit might be possible for more talent levels

[peak summit]

ah but that movement speed loss for siege breaker...

lose quite a big of dmg

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle I can not level that stamp yet

[bleak gazelle]

Time to deposit some speed statues

[solar seal]

should still be a net gain on SB

[bleak gazelle]

Time to work on some other stamps then

[pastel kayak]

Trying to get green stacks so can not use my mats @bleak gazelle

[bleak gazelle]

oh no, are they telling me it'll be time to resample soon?

yeah, i guess so

[solar seal]

uh oh, i smell another weeklong sampling adventure for ace in the near future

[warm kelp]

im gonna resample mages and archers today

[bleak gazelle]

lul, just got like 3 things.

[solar seal]

what in the actual fuck ace

[bleak gazelle]

oh lord, shimmer bonuses?

[solar seal]

stop

you can only handle so many sovereign in one day

[bleak gazelle]

guess that's a bit of skill eff

[warm kelp]

do you have Souvereign Fury relic ?

[solar seal]

at this rate, acew ill have it in about 20 minutes

[bleak gazelle]

i'm assuming that just shows base value, so, not bad

lul

[warm kelp]

jeez 😄 Whats ur find %

[solar seal]

🛑

[bleak gazelle]

nothing crazy

[warm kelp]

oh wow thats pretty high, im at 136

[simple wadi]

Geez sovereign as well. Congrats

[bleak gazelle]

nah, just ancient one of that. sovereign was NBLB extra bubble

though at the rate i'm going

[solar seal]

you sovereigned 10% in 2 minutes

[zinc torrent]

I'm finally in 2 world fuck 1 world

[simple wadi]

And ones that weren't easy at that

[zinc torrent]

🖕☠️🖕

[simple wadi]

2 world 1 cup?

[zinc torrent]

._.

What the hell

Is wrong with u

[simple wadi]

You do realize this isn't w2 chat, right?

[zinc torrent]

😭

Bruh a just realized

Thank u mirai maku

Sensay

😘✌️

[solar seal]

o7 see yuo in 3 worlds

[bleak gazelle]

true, though I feel like that's the case for most people, assuming they unlock Tusk kind of fast

[zinc torrent]

Stop

Is not Fair

🖕☠️🖕🔫😭

[solar seal]

the random gaming bit book you got without even trying

[bleak gazelle]

yeah man that one was kinda funny

[warm kelp]

I need to catch up

[zinc torrent]

Ni

No

🪵🔫😭 fuck u wood slave from ideleon

🪵🔫😭

My reaction when a want bones from this stuff wood's

[bleak gazelle]

🦴

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle doi need to change the postoffife boxes?

Post office

My spelling is bad today

[bleak gazelle]

Should be fine

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle want my headache?

[bleak gazelle]

pass

[solar seal]

post office gets 'fixed' by just completing all of it - i wouldn't stress about changing existing ones. just invest smart going forward

[whole slate]

double it and give it to the next person

[thin lark]

Anybody got the optimal snail encouragement doc lying around?

[bleak gazelle]

I should look at this again too

oh, lul, 0 for 16, too

[thin lark]

just got to 18. I'll stop there for a bit

[bleak gazelle]

nice

[pastel kayak]

That is bad

[bleak gazelle]

the only benefit of active BM for this jewel is that i'll get it to 500

[simple wadi]

I was at 19 and had encouraged 22 times. It was at I think 11% reset chance, and it reset. I swear I'm never getting to 20.

3 days ago

[bleak gazelle]

rip

[whole slate]

do it trust

[whole slate]

im at 16 im catching up

[pastel kayak]

Bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad evil @whole slate

[whole slate]

me? evil? neveeeeeeeeer

[pastel kayak]

Yes you are evil @whole slate

[whole slate]

i think u got the wrong person lady

[pastel kayak]

Nope

[whole slate]

yep

[pastel kayak]

All males are evil and bad

[whole slate]

wait hold up this is not where i thought this conversation was gonna go

[pastel kayak]

More then half way to 2 more green stacks now @bleak gazelle in food

[whole slate]

im not him but

[pastel kayak]

Crazy @whole slate

[whole slate]

ok now you're saying the truth

[strong shale]

what in the 4x my arti chance

youre getting so many sov artis!!!

[whole slate]

damn thats low but his arti chance is lower than mine

[strong shale]

idk how to get more tbh

besides sailing shit

[bleak gazelle]

idk, just git gud

aww yiss

[whole slate]

need to work on my sailing some more

[strong shale]

like BRUH what is your luck ace

how do you get that high of a chance? just from captains?

[whole slate]

[strong shale]

is it overall arti chance on captains or certain ones

like to their boat

[whole slate]

my boat wit the highest arti cahcne is like 800x

but then again this guy helps plenty

[bleak gazelle]

[strong shale]

i mean is the line for artifact chance on captains only tied to that boat, or the overall fleet?

[bleak gazelle]

pretty sure it's per boat except for the ender captain bonus

could be wrong though

[whole slate]

take em i dont need them

[whole slate]

you're right

[pastel kayak]

Who wants the cold from here?

[bleak gazelle]

hmm, guess it's just the tuttle vial that I got

[whole slate]

practically the same

[pastel kayak]

Going to be 2c here tonight

[bleak gazelle]

oh speaking of, i can get another level

[pastel kayak]

@whole slate you Aussie?

[whole slate]

but then again how many max vials do u have

[whole slate]

nah im kenyan

[pastel kayak]

I am Aussie so is winter here

[whole slate]

never seen snow and the same year we left israel it snowed

[bleak gazelle]

26, true, getting 73% at level 6 now

but now it's time

[pastel kayak]

I never seen snow too cause not snows in my area but does snow in Australia

Night bad @bleak gazelle

[whole slate]

im at 29 with 88.5% at lvl 7

[whole slate]

https://tenor.com/view/a-mimir-gif-26093646

[toxic saddle]

Sleep well friend

[broken tapir]

if I want to farm tremor wurm cards on my bub, would snapshotting card drop% before I farm help me get more during active?

[gentle furnace]

Yes

[pastel kayak]

Not long got my 4th green stack and working on 5th but ran out of coins

[broken tapir]

cheers 👍🏿

[tepid sail]

Any tips for wurm spice battle ? Can beat it with looter, monolith, defender, 2x refiller and rattler.

[dark creek]

Im confused, i have Doot and recently got to w5. according from what i've googled they should all be active directly. Now most of them definitely are, except for goharut (combine lab/altar gains).

I guess i'll just have to work on my divinity skill and unlock that normally to get the gains? or am i missing something?

[tranquil seal]

goharut only works when in lab regardless I believe

[dark creek]

oh i've tried putting someone in lab, but they dont register on the altar screen as gaining points

hmm.. possibly it works but doesnt show up in the altar screen? i have to try placing one in lab for an hour and see if they get any divinity.

[tranquil seal]

yeah I haven’t looked at that, try doing a 2 min claim in lab and see if any divinity messages pop up

[dark creek]

indeed, will do that. need a bit more though to guarantee some actual gains with my very low skills.

[sharp mauve]

Altar interface won't show users who pray via Goat god or Tran-Qi style.

[dark creek]

oh. then my test should show positive in a moment then. Thank you.

[plucky scarab]

Hey guys what multiplicative mean?

[sharp mauve]

Multiply with another multiplier. Such as the different shiny fishes in Kangaroo.

Instead of 2.4x + 3.6x + 5.2x, you multiply 2.43.65.2 for the new number.

[dark creek]

In other words, if you have 5 instances 50% additive bonuses you gain a total of 250% increase
if you have 5 instances 50% multiplicative bonuses you get 1.5x1.5x1.5x1.5x1.5 (1.5^5) equaling ~750% bonus.

essentially multiplicative are better

@sharp mauve

you were right. thank you.

[wispy wedge]

Am I missing something? This will take 57 days of full praying

[gentle furnace]

what style you using

[wispy wedge]

Vitalic on all chars (they're all around lvl 30-37)

[gentle furnace]

did you max the talent on es that boosts div exp?

[wispy wedge]

Yes as well as 2 ES. Do they both impact all chars?

[gentle furnace]

i believe so

you can also upgrade blessings on gods to boost your div point gains

[wispy wedge]

Yeah I am. They all cost 500T bits. Unlucky rolls on my mutations at the moment

I assume atom collider will help divinity gain?

[gentle furnace]

not really related

[wispy wedge]

Well that's about 20 days away anyway lol

[viral python]

anyone got the pet battle sheet?

[zinc torrent]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml?pli=1#

[sharp mauve]

For Div specific talent from ES, only the highest leveled talent from one ES count.

Mage Inner Pace also affects Mage Div XP gain, but individually.

[pastel kayak]

I have updated the 3 gods I have for what I can for now

[zinc torrent]

thats super low you are def missing bonuses

[hard grove]

Do I reset or get fisheroos investing?

[solar seal]

never ever fisheroo reset until late game MFish12+

[hard grove]

Ok

[sharp mauve]

Keep rolling new shiny fish so u get better multiplier, and more investment before mega reset.

[dapper kraken]

farm divine scarf with DK or ES ?

[solar seal]

neither, vman is the world boss farmer

[dapper kraken]

kinda tough on vman to clear thouuuuu

[solar seal]

if you were strong enough to beat n.kruk on vm for recipe, you can easily clear normal kruk blind folded on vman

[dapper kraken]

i clear it already but i need to farm the strung tooth

to craft more

[solar seal]

yeah do it on normal. only reason to do chaotic - if you need the cavity tooth, or nightmare - if you are farming for cape with quest active - you don't farm for neck on anything but normal

[dapper kraken]

okkkkkk thanks ! 🙂

[solar seal]

to give you statistical odds,
70 runs on normal @ 1:100k odds -> 1 in 1428
14 runs on chaotic @ 1:28572 odds -> 1 in 2040
1 run on nightmare @ 1:2500 odds -> 1 in 2500

might as well do 300 kills/day while you farm up the necks for roster. easy ~200 gems/day

can also fill out all your sparkle obol needs with obols at the same time

its a win/win/win farm

anyone else seeing no random daily event for another... 19 hours? what a dearth

[bleak gazelle]

you check the calendar? next one after that is like 13 hours and then 11

[solar seal]

holy, you are right. i'm so used to an event like every 5-8 hrs at worst

4 snakes back to back in 5 hour period then.. wtf lava

[hard grove]

can you reroll dice obols to get more DR?

like before combining

[brittle hawk]

Did the captain shop get nerfed_

[strong robin]

What’s the easiest way to get golden hamsters?

[gentle furnace]

use dk to farm at wurms

[strong robin]

Hmmm

Damn, there’s no higher drop rate anywhere else?

[gentle furnace]

it drops most from crystals

[strong robin]

Aight

Ty

[gentle furnace]

dk makes crystal drops most

[whole slate]

well i'm too lazy to go onto a char with 9x lower dr

[brittle hawk]

If you have high catching on your SB, try to candy scarabs

they give alot of golden hampters

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle

Thi king will not be getting for months

[frigid swift]

noice

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, roll them to +1 at silver and it keeps the +1 when you combine it

[hard grove]

how many fisheroo investing should i get before MF

I have 11 and I kinda wanna go for my first MF is that viable rn

[gentle furnace]

i got my first with the same as yours

[hard grove]

Ok

What bonus do I pump into now?

[nova lynx]

this is what I did after reset 1 + MF1

Not saying it's ideal, but I think shiny pump is the dominant trait until MF3 when you unlock red + gray bonuses

[gentle furnace]

all in yellow

[hard grove]

And at what point do I stop pumping yellow?

[nova lynx]

waiting for one more finvestment point then will mega reset unless I magically pull some more blue fishies to pump my multiplier

[nova lynx]

Basically when you hit Mega reset 3 lol and have red/gray to pump into.

[hard grove]

Ok

[nova lynx]

But it'll look something like Jaegar's at that point where you start balancing. But yellow still gonna be a top choice

[nova lynx]

what reset / megareset are you on?

[gentle furnace]

i put about 5 points into blue and green every reset then like 10 in yellow and about 20 in gray then rest in red

11 MF 2 small reset

[nova lynx]

aah ok. Guess that makes sense with almost 400 in red lol

[gentle furnace]

i get about 80+ points

[nova lynx]

Dang nice. And your fisheroo investing ain't even matching your MF cost yet. Are you MF resetting closer to the cost or are you still pumping fish invest to 100-1000x higher than MF cost?

[gentle furnace]

5-10x

[nova lynx]

IDK how much tarr reset pts scale, but I'm guessing you'll hit 100+ pts pretty easy this MF

[gentle furnace]

that means im gonna leave this overnight and MF tmr morning

[nova lynx]

Is it not morning for ya now?

[gentle furnace]

11.39pm here

[nova lynx]

Aah. 10:39am for me 😄 so just waiting for this last finvest then will MF.

[scenic nimbus]

which are the best artifcats to transform?

[nova lynx]

What do you mean?

[bleak gazelle]

Island 1 Tusk (artifact find %), Island 4 Tablet (boat speed), and Island 9 Fury (talent levels) are typically the go-tos. Island 8 Dreamcatcher is good to ancient but useless after that.

[twin token]

How long is it supposed to take to do the kattle questline?

How are you supposed to do it on smth like vman with no active abilities?

[bleak gazelle]

just get more damage

[twin token]

O I forgot abt candies

How did ppl do it before w6 tho

[bleak gazelle]

they had nothing else to do

[twin token]

The quest doesn't count mk right?

[bleak gazelle]

it does

[twin token]

Dang endgame privilege

[twin token]

Oh

[terse verge]

Only when afk. Cant get mk during active

[twin token]

Ah okay

[main kettle]

i dont know what i should do with this tab. help

[twin token]

So they just afked the whole time

[terse verge]

Pretty much

[twin token]

Ty

[bleak gazelle]

more shockwave or refinery

[main kettle]

okay

[scenic nimbus]

Thank you!!

[bleak gazelle]

aww yiss

[pastel kayak]

I have 4 green stacks now and working on 3 others one of them stopped working on ran out of coins

[hard grove]

are tarpit upgrades permanent?

[nova lynx]

just for the reset

[scenic nimbus]

can nobisect stack with lab for faster portal opening?

Thanks

[pastel kayak]

Who wants the cold from here?

[bleak gazelle]

[pastel kayak]

@bleak gazelle I got 4 green stacks now and working on iron and bleach farming and printing them

[hard grove]

is there a fractal type megafish in the new update?

[sharp mauve]

Why no max Construction exp?

Dumping Statues and Mastery talents will give enough points for that

[fervent gate]

how tf do i get more damage like im still having trouble killing the w5 boss

[wispy wedge]

Okay, so I need at least triple more damage to kill kruk (yes, I know using mage will be easier with their skills, but I'm attached to my bb. Any recommendations?

[wispy wedge]

lol same

https://camolee1.idleonefficiency.com

[fervent gate]

you need to upgrade bubble quick slap

[wispy wedge]

I assume you meant to tag him, I am a barb

[bleak gazelle]

• Throw some points into NPNG, drop points in tab 4 orange skills and boost the greens
• You have a few Zows which you're pretty close to finishing, at least go do those, can do the other W4 ones too if you want
• Lot of stamps to level, don't neglect your base strength stat ones, see if you can unlock some you're missing
• Pump this first orange bubble to 100 and aim for 150, aim for 75 with second bubble
• Try to unlock Octoplop meal
• If you don't need the accuracy, then swap BB to Nobisect for minor link damage bonus

[south agate]

How far can this carry me? Already unlocked 5 new spices lol

[wispy wedge]

Just the god and NPNG already doubled my damage lol Thanks!

[sharp mauve]

• Disable Unending Loot talent on your SB. Not worth the half chest claim.
• Works on Sailing artifacts that benefits your Sailing, then work on ship upgrades or artifacts that will be useful.
• Ignore Ayto Arm upgrades, focus on maxing Cost Cruncher
• Maestro skill levels, stop using Siphon and upgrade everyone skulls.
• Ignore Sigil, unlocks bubbles instead.
• Anything that does not give dmg actually improves dmg in another way.

[bleak gazelle]

just be careful that you don't die from moles hitting you now

[fast wolf]

ur cooked if ur doing it on sb

do it on ES is much easier

[strong nexus]

omg im farming humpster and i got a 3day time candy and got 120 hampster instantly

[fast wolf]

and ur sb will be able to do it easily later with all the w6 boni

[fast wolf]

rings have to change

now is the time for tenacity/opals but if those are too expensive get serrated rex rings for now

[fast wolf]

chiz scarf defo

or blankie if u have no recipe

[wispy wedge]

I've killed chiz maybe twice lol lacking in pushing W3 on the other char's since they've only ever seen the lab/div altar since I killed him

[fast wolf]

chiz scarf is just a drop

and try to get chiz armour but it expensive so i understand if u cant

if only

[bleak gazelle]

🎉

[hard grove]

You can actually just click the shiny button even while the shiny menu isn’t up in the fishing

Which tar pit do I go for?

[fervent gate]

bet

[hard grove]

I’m assuming the shiny one

[gentle furnace]

early on yeah focus on 2nd

you can upgrade 3rd couple times

[nova lynx]

The first tarpit is crap 😦 complete bait. I wasted a pt in it just for science lol

Got my first blue pull on this reset and it was pretty juicy. Way better than last Megafish round. Now I can coast most of today on this round

[strong nexus]

what is the best place to get a lot of obol i have everything to finish all obol on my slab but the scrap

[bleak gazelle]

W2 sandy pots

[hard grove]

How many fisherovesting should I get before MF3?

[frigid swift]

only like 80 more hours to go lol

[hard grove]

Im assuming that I should get as many as I can before its more expensive then the MF reset itself

[nova lynx]

Think it sorta depends on your shiny luck for what’s tolerable

You should get it above what the MF reset cost is

[rotund nest]

How do you get shiny bored beanie?

[nova lynx]

I am giving myself a full day (so reset in the morning) to try and get all 6 diff shiny fish to get a big base multiplier. Then usually I’ll just increase bluefish and shiny gains throughout the day, leave it overnight and buy a ton of investment points. If my overnight shiny point doesn’t super boost my gains, I’ll usually take MF or wait for 1 more investment point if it’s close.
This strat has thus far put my investments 1000x or higher over the cost of MF

[hard grove]

From w5 miniboss you have a chance to get the recipe for tab 5

and it costs a royal urn and some normal suggma ashes (and a bored beanie)

[main kettle]

its on my skilling tab

[sharp mauve]

It does not work unless you are actively mining, in which you should never do it without a good reason.

[main kettle]

o ok

[bleak gazelle]

finally

[sharp mauve]

Same goes for Breeding, Sailing, BB's Super Chow, Vman Talents, etc. You need to level them and keep having the preset active.

[hard grove]

I think ill just go for my MF at 20 fisheroos that i just got

[winter trout]

With these pets is there a team that could help me unlock more territories cause i am stuck on frosty peaks and arena round 35

[hard grove]

What to spend points on

Im assuming the other reset one

[winter trout]

Some in other reset and 2-5 in the tar fish

[hard grove]

how many is "some"

[winter trout]

Most

[hard grove]

I have 30 points left over

[winter trout]

All

[hard grove]

ok

[next temple]

Is there a trick to getting vman to stay at large fish? He keeps bouncing back to the docks when I log into gim

[hard grove]

does the other resets count for MF resets?

[winter trout]

Large ?

[next temple]

Seasalt

He won't stay on the island just auto bounces back to docks

Oh is he dying or something?

[winter trout]

If he was then he woul go to town

[next temple]

Nah he just appears back with Omar

[main kettle]

giant mob chance changes from character to character or it’s the same chance

[hard grove]

OH WAIT the other reset bonusses means that getting that up means everything else gets up im dumb

[terse verge]

If you are leaving it active, yes it is dying. Active fishing you take damage as you fish

[next temple]

Nah it's some kinda bug, only when swapping

[terse verge]

I dont have any issues leaving people at seasalt. Not sure what you are running into then

[bleak gazelle]

same chance for whole account. resets with weekly reset

[bleak gazelle]

And still all i get is this from w5 miniboss

[fallow aurora]

I get around 30 with less dr than u

[solar seal]

guess i should go for mf2 now. 4638x invest cost of MF

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, w5 miniboss hates me

[sinful bear]

Is there any easy ways to beat kattlekruk with voidwalker?? My dude only has 49b dmg and it does nothing lol, it's lvl 450

[solar seal]

nightmare kruk, 49B likely too low

[fallow aurora]

the guide in pins recommends 20-30B+

[solar seal]

see 📌 , that was at 80B and it still took the author like 15min

30B would be like an hour of micro..

[next temple]

What is tarpit strat? My first megafish

[fallow aurora]

pins in #newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳ or #endgame-gen-chat

[sinful bear]

Ok, ty ... vw is a serious pain for tasks that require all characters to complete lol

[bleak gazelle]

Biggest thing I typically see are low skill levels. A lot of VMan damage is tied to your tab 3 talent that gives dmg% based on lowest skill level in multiples of 5

[pastel kayak]

Got heaps fo fish this time

[bleak gazelle]

w6 miniboss

[timid drift]

is the artifact find chance drop from stomy north to snow south normal? i had like 0,50~% chance on all soverign until now but as soon i got to snowy i can only get 0,02~~% which is wild

[bleak gazelle]

well, actually i think i got sovereign on the blues pretty easily, it was after that I noticed a drop

but that was also like... 3% to .3% or something

oh, got a jackpot

[rotund nest]

How do you get this?

[bleak gazelle]

smithing anvil production

level 60 to make it

[rotund nest]

How do I have negative

[bleak gazelle]

and a based right tilt

[bleak gazelle]

!acme

[obtuse orbit]

Having negative anvil points is NOT a bug
Using the skill "ACME Anvil", spending the anvil points, and respeccing will leave you with negative anvil points. This is not a bug, it is an intended feature. If you spec back into "ACME Anvil", you will no longer have negative points.

[frigid swift]

lol 200k

[bleak gazelle]

lul, the other side of right tilt

[thorn kindle]

https://i.imgur.com/fVDnbjt.jpeg

[hard grove]

Im assuming from this pointon I should just hard focus the red bonus for poppy

[fiery wagon]

Does the sailing speed star sign need to equipped all the time or only on opening the sailing map?

[bleak gazelle]

just when opening the map

similar with cooking speed, I believe it just checks when you enter W4 town

I think crop evo needs to be always on though, which is different

Unsure about jade/sneaking

[fiery wagon]

Sweet thanks for info 🙂

[hasty harness]

this is going to taking so damm long...

[hard grove]

yea

[bleak gazelle]

that one didn't take too long since you get good CC progress out of it or gfood farming

better than w3

[hasty harness]

doing with dk to speed it up

[hard grove]

but hey in the end you will get some more stats

[hasty harness]

i know i need alchemy

[hard grove]

still after hundreds of attempts I have NO FUCKING BLUE SHINY FISH

[hasty harness]

but i dont have the mats to upgrade what i need

and i am a bit lazy to go grab them

[bleak gazelle]

ahh, dang it, forgot I needed to hit 500 on this guy

guess I can setup for farming the next spice in 6 weeks

[hard grove]

I am s close yet so far from vman

but I have 1/3 of the gmush and worlds 1 and 2 completed for the deathnote

[main kettle]

this is my 8th character and i want to gain levels in him, what box should i consider

[hasty harness]

all of them

eventualy....

[main kettle]

151 boxes ;/

so?

[hasty harness]

well, idk, i also didnt knew to myself

and when i knew what to place on, i already had boxes for everything so idk

[frigid swift]

Its typically recommended to put points into gathering box first for that class.

but its your 8th so you have an option to not do that i spose

[hasty harness]

i focused Drop for my DK and ES

[frigid swift]

someday ill use some boxes

[cursive bane]

Anyone know what's the drop rarity range need for Strung Tooth of the Divine ?

[solar seal]

as high as possible

[frigid swift]

yeh i mean it really depends but higher is better

[solar seal]

there's no magic breakpoint that makes them easier to farm. get best DR you can on vman, and throw it at kruk 300x/day

[rapid rover]

Kinda dont know which direction to go to get more damage for kruk

[frigid swift]

Alch and stamps direction

[rapid rover]

Which stamps?

[frigid swift]

beats me. im trash.

have you booked your skills?

[bleak gazelle]

Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, artifacts, divinities, owl, dungeon flurbos, and talents are all sources of damage

Damage and base stat are always good

[frigid swift]

dont forget to add fish to that now 😛

[bleak gazelle]

Pump your strength bubble

[rapid rover]

https://zubrownie.idleonefficiency.com If anybody has free time 🙂

[frigid swift]

Anyone else hate when you hit fire pit multiple times in a row and spend 30 minutes waiting on plinko to end?

Oh look.... another....

and a 3rd lol

[bleak gazelle]

[frigid swift]

save me

im in lava pit of hell!

[bleak gazelle]

dang bruh

[bleak gazelle]

Should work on these for now

[pastel kayak]

Kees failing adding new vial today again

[frigid swift]

i should go back to vialls. ive not tried adding a new one in like 2 months

[pastel kayak]

Meant keeps

[bleak gazelle]

Btw what are you looking for, general advice or trying to push w5 boss?

[hollow palm]

What is the maximum number of gems a boss can drop?

[solar seal]

300 world boss kills daily net me just slightly over 200 gems/day

[hasty harness]

i wasted my w6 today by having too many pickles 😦

i had 2

[bleak gazelle]

i almost lost orb buff when killing one, i would have been so mad

because it happened the last two times

[hasty harness]

i just think that stacking orb is such a pain

but i do it for the extra loot

[pastel kayak]

Mum took my laptop last night and not given it back yet @bleak gazelle

[hasty harness]

and then making sure you kill them right on time so that you dont lose the bonus too

[hasty harness]

play on phone?

[pastel kayak]

I can play on my iPad bigger then my phone

[hasty harness]

play on tablet then

maybe play on fridge, leaving it on wont be an issue running idleon 😄

smart fridge gaming

[pastel kayak]

Will later has sorting out allot of Pokémon cards for a friend

@hasty harness them sorting out

[fallow aurora]

how many does ur friend own.....

[pastel kayak]

He was given tubs full @fallow aurora

He lives in same area has me

[strong shale]

wonder how fast i could get 1b materials of the w1 mats

[pastel kayak]

4 green stacks now and working on 2 more plus one stopped working on for now cause ran out of coins @strong shale

[hasty harness]

gl

[hard grove]

I got 1m multi for the shiny fish!

[strong shale]

took time to get a sample on these things and redid my board once i got 48 double cogs last night

https://i.imgur.com/tN2tzhs.png

build speed went from 3m -> 22m

[pastel kayak]

@strong shale spent almost all my coins on upgrading that stamp one time last night

[hard grove]

What should I spend my tar fish on now?

[bleak gazelle]

man, bro dropped his IE and then just ghosted us

[strong shale]

grats on the jackpot you are so lucky

(ignoring all previous luck) so lucky !!

[rapid rover]

Just push W5 boss

Sorry i got busy with work

[bleak gazelle]

All good

[rapid rover]

Would ES be better to work on for W5 boss?

[bleak gazelle]

How's your DK damage?

[strong shale]

got 3 sov artifacts from my procs this morning :3

[rapid rover]

12m-24m

[bleak gazelle]

Should be fine to stick with that, 35m top-end is a solid place to be at, can do it with a bit less though

Do you have doot?

[rapid rover]

Im assuming if im able to one shot the moles then itd be doable

yeah

[strong shale]

doot havers

[rapid rover]

I mean my main issue is that im trying to go into W6 too fast even though my acc isnt ready but my impatience is causing me to bum rush through W5. With alch/stamps leveling ill be able to get there eventually but i was more so looking to see if Im missing something thatll give me a major damage boost

[bleak gazelle]

Your sailing is...have you touched it since the first day?

[rapid rover]

If im gonna be honestly im pretty confused on how it works

Not really confused but idk if im doing something wrong to get artifacts or if its just RNG

[crimson thistle]

its just rng for artifacts

[pastel kayak]

I had help fixing up my sailing from the good @strong shale

[rapid rover]

OK i just answered my own question, got it right after i sent that message

[scenic nimbus]

When people say for example need 30 million damage to defeat boss it means the minimum damage right?

[bleak gazelle]

• Get that artifact from first island,
• Change your star signs
• Swap out afk/multikill cards for damage or acc (dr. def and snowman for damage, stump tree for acc, if needed)
• Spend your PO Boxes
• Redo your talents, book green, drop all points in red, reduce points in orange, if needed to max out green

Honestly, once you do that you should be perfectly fine

[bleak gazelle]

Max sheet damage, also assumed right talent build and a decent amount of crit, particularly if you're ES

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, basically send ships to islands, bring back chests, open chests and pray for RNG. Chests also have loot that you can use to upgrade ships or trade for gold and buy new captains/ships. At the moment, I would buy a third boat/captain if possible and send everyone back to the first island for the missing artifacts there

[scenic nimbus]

Thank you!

[bleak gazelle]

If you click on the silhouette it'll show you the effects of the artifact. If you get a new artifact and it pops up on the platform above but doesn't show a bonus, that's normal, just reload the map

[crimson thistle]

i still need ancient tablet

[rapid rover]

This is actually huge dude thanks so much

[bleak gazelle]

I didn't look too in-depth, so if you want more guidance after I can put something together. Work on your first two alch bubbles, too. Aim for 100/50 for now then push to 150/75 when you hit W6, same with the other two cauldrons

Also, once you unlock the first rank of Wisdom sigil, I would take people out and throw them onto liquid/color cauldrons, you've got a lot of alchemy progress to do

[rapid rover]

Yeah my biggest issue with alch was liquid speed being too low

[bleak gazelle]

Once you get your Bubo online and start CCing then it shouldn't be too much of an issue, but for now, putting folks into those cauldrons will help, also get them xp, too

[zinc torrent]

early on dont rlly do sigils, once u hv unlocked all bubbles up to w6, dont need those chars in cauldron and can move to sigils

[bleak gazelle]

think the first 3 base stats are fine, though I wouldn't have gone for the 2nd rank in them

[rapid rover]

Okay cool, for CC should i just use it on whatever i have the higher Kills/hr for?

[bleak gazelle]

If you can do it on W4 cans, otherwise W3 bloques or mamooths should be good. For now just do it once a day when it's up. Level up stuff if you can, you can dump extra water into grindtime, but you'll primarily be using it to gain progress in your color cauldrons to unlock boost levels and new bubbles

[zinc torrent]

do it on flom/cans w4, citringe/wurms w5 if u hv tentcylce at lv 200 min

[bleak gazelle]

The real CC journey starts with 200 tent, like Wisp said

[frigid swift]

Then it actually begins when your prints can actually keep up

[rapid rover]

Sounds good, thanks again guys this is a huge help

[strong shale]

@sand kettle watching mane's video on your acc, sick account and big love for helping me thru party dungeons when i was a smol boi

[sand kettle]

tbh i cant remember the party dungeon part but np! and thank you, for my playtime i would say its decent enough

[strong shale]

oh it was like 3-4 months ago i just remember your name specifically in w1 chat or something

[grave tundra]

My friend is stuck in world 5 even though his es has 30m max damage is there anything I’m missing or does he just have a skill issue

[strong shale]

skill issue

[grave tundra]

That’s what I thought

[strong shale]

could need to book talents

[grave tundra]

His max talent level is 148

[strong shale]

ES kinda rng with meteor strike

[pastel kayak]

Need 2

[strong shale]

😮 getting close

[sand kettle]

something rings iirc. i am barely in w1 chat so not many moments to remember

[pastel kayak]

Do I need to upgrade it more?

[strong shale]

yes you will need to upgrade it to get all plants !

[strong shale]

may have been party finder

[pastel kayak]

Main in world 5 farming coins and printing iron and one alt is mining and printing iron 2 alts farming and printing breach

@strong shale what to mini after iron? Gold?

[strong shale]

yep!

[pastel kayak]

Over 8 m iron now have in storage

[sand kettle]

at least I hope my account is not roastable

[strong shale]

im sure someone will find SOMETHING to roast you about :p

yeah, go redo your 3d prints

[sand kettle]

true that, can double all of them maybe

since i did them 1 day before the summoning update

but before i didnt finish my books, i am not doing anything

[strong shale]

cause you know you need a 100b oak log print not 40b xd

do you still need atoms?

[main kettle]

as an overgeared level 190 DK with 4,50M dmg. does the damage come along or is there something wrong

[sand kettle]

hm, atoms rn are just to increase the one atom collider upgrade with the power of 10

even with m lowest prints i would produce enough to daily boron click

[strong shale]

alchemy, stamps, PO boxes help

talent levels, sailing, gaming

cooking is big too

thats right boron exists

[main kettle]

which po boxes? ive put all into mana for the cd reduction

[strong shale]

do u have the 2nd page?

[main kettle]

nope not yet

[strong shale]

ah prob nothing then yet, theres deaths storage, and gaming one which gives 9/15% total dmg respectively

can you link your ie? i can look for some easy damage sources

[main kettle]

the second one is for page 2 right

[main kettle]

ofc

[strong shale]

the last one :x

[main kettle]

bruh

[main kettle]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=MannyManny

[strong shale]

nice https://i.imgur.com/w6wQ6Il.png

https://i.imgur.com/wwEoMKG.png

the bottom left 2, top right and middle one are really good for dmg

[main kettle]

the middle jsut for boss dmg right

also how to get this one

[strong shale]

no idea, would have to wiki

[scenic nimbus]

I think quest

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/jxgAPzL.png remember to level the speed on these, dont do sigils until you have all bubbles unlocked

take off your characters that are on liquids, put them all on bubble

[main kettle]

done

[strong shale]

did you just get to w5?

[sand kettle]

nice indeed

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/t7alONs.png Unlock these bubbles (pretty far down) and dont neglect your bubbles, you can easily level some of them slowly by 3d printing the resources from w1-2 pretty decently and reinvesting into your printer gains too

[main kettle]

the only problem are the odds and brew speed

[strong shale]

unlock them through your bubo

[main kettle]

i do

[pastel kayak]

Some now I have 4 building slots is that normal?

[strong shale]

it gets low, the chance to unlock them is low but the only thing you can do is just level your speed as high as possible

[main kettle]

o ok

[strong shale]

yeah, did you unlock something new in lab? maybe a bubble unlock?

should also remove this @main kettle https://i.imgur.com/VmgpiP1.png

[pastel kayak]

Not sure will update the link soon so you can check for me

[strong shale]

and get your accuracy up thru fruitflies (shaquracy)

[main kettle]

why? it gives good accuracy

[strong shale]

you can get accuracy elsewhere (cards, alchemy)

[bleak gazelle]

dungeon, w2 fish

[strong shale]

even w5 stoning your tools with wisdom

[main kettle]

yeah i do

[crimson thistle]

there are issues if you need the accuracy that prayer gives

[strong shale]

holy your accuracy is maxed in the dungeon

[main kettle]

my accuracy with nothing but the prayer

[crimson thistle]

later on at least

[strong shale]

yeah its alchemy for sure

https://i.imgur.com/d610vhy.png

[main kettle]

oh yeah i forgot abt it. its lvl 16 for me

[strong shale]

and this talent is really good once you start scaling the 2nd orange bubble https://i.imgur.com/ySQ9zla.png

[crimson thistle]

that would do it