lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[solar seal]

after every odd MF, the boost you get pretty much will catapult you into next MF

[nova lynx]

Yeah that's what I'm experiencing with my 1st MF

The next orion bonus is way out of league so I know I'll prob MF reset way before I get the 100T or whatever is needed for my next orion

Figured "end game" might be trickier on picking a MF reset or farming for orion bonuses. But Lava does pretty good balancing numbers it seems

[solar seal]

the gains will slow down vs. time you put in, but for endgamers who have nothign else to do, i see why they are enjoying themselves in the min/max

[zinc torrent]

i will lv bonus while doing mf soo..

[nova lynx]

Yeah I figured that much. I am going to let one guy camp it for a bit while I get some early MFs, but ultimately think it'll be a check 1-2x a day after a couple of days

[solar seal]

gives easy 'access' to baba for BJP farm at least

[bleak gazelle]

easy access, there was already a map portal there

[zinc torrent]

make it free tp at the very least

[solar seal]

even with portal, people wouldn't do it

although tbf, that same logic could apply here. even though they 1 step away, they won't do it

[bleak gazelle]

the big part is remembering to do it on time

best thing is to probably just line it up with 1 hour traps

or 2 hour, w/e they are

[solar seal]

yuck traps

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, i'm just back on 10 hours

[tacit dagger]

How Many Bits Do You Need For A Green Bit Or Are They 2 Different Things

[nova lynx]

1QQ

[bleak gazelle]

although since i changed my daily reset it's been kinda fucked, so might need to adjust that again

[nova lynx]

1QQ = 1,000Q = 1,000,000T = 1,000,000,000B, etc.

[tacit dagger]

So I’m Very Far Off

[bleak gazelle]

Gaming is a very slow grind

Until it isn't when you unlock a new artifact or a big nugget

[nova lynx]

Possibly? My gaming bit gains seem to spike and then stagnate for a long while, they spike because idk why

[bleak gazelle]

And then it's back to a slowgrind

[tacit dagger]

And I’m Behind Because I Just Candied Through W5 To Get To W6

[nova lynx]

You aren't behind per se. But you'll be stuck in w6 at a slow rate like me

Just means gaming, sailing, div, etc. will hit harder

[solar seal]

the 3yr was a god send. i religiously use those silver stopwatches to keep my reset at +/- 15min of when i want it

[tacit dagger]

You Should See My Alchemy That’ll Hurt (But In My Defence Alchemy Crashes Me)

[bleak gazelle]

how does alchemy crash you

[echo gulch]

which card should i use cardifier on

[bleak gazelle]

I wouldn't use it on any of those

[tacit dagger]

I Go To The Cauldron Then When I Brew Game Decides That It No Longer Wants To

[bleak gazelle]

Maybe try submitting a #bug-reports-🐛

[echo gulch]

then on which cards would be better to be used on

[wanton obsidian]

W6 boss card

[echo gulch]

ah

[bleak gazelle]

Chaotic or nightmare troll are good, demon genie is fine, too if you have choco chip already. Emperor cards (w6 boss) and godshard cards are good

I'd probably just hold on to it until then

[wanton obsidian]

I'm thinking of using my cardifier on godshard

[solar seal]

dat do be a good one

[wanton obsidian]

From 120% to 180% right?

[short sparrow]

ooooo I finally hit a crit on my ES big enough to show T

[manic rivet]

another gs coming up nice

if i gs veiny logs, wispy lumber and alien hive chunk thats another 3

then i think i will only be missing 2 for 20 greensacks

time to fix fish prints

before

got this too

[zinc torrent]

u can now get good foraging team

[manic rivet]

yeah ik

bean snake board is the meta for early isnt it?

[manic rivet]

thx

over 4x my previous sample

not bad not bad

ehh i guess i can wait that gs out

[nova lynx]

finally my first nunchaku that does decent dmg and doesn't take me 15 years to unlock next floor

[nova lynx]

👀 I gotta go blow my eggs to rebuild farming groups. I did realize miasma is pretty op on the few I dropped in to random spicefields

[zinc torrent]

here is the cheatsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml?pli=1#

[nova lynx]

Aaah I keep forgetting to save the link to this sheet and lose it all the time

[zinc torrent]

i just hv it bookmarked

[nova lynx]

yeah gonna do that rn

[manic rivet]

another sample done

shouldnt take long for this to gs

if omni hits printer enough i can get it tomorrow

[nova lynx]

if you can leave an ES active AFK then it might be worth gs'ing gmush caps

I did that and buying w4/w5 foods to get my 20gs for equinox

[manic rivet]

i have it gsd somehow

i have no idea why but i own like 60m gmush heads

[manic rivet]

oh the foods tip is good imma do that

[nova lynx]

I think w5 you have 10m+ access to pretty easily each day (or damn close if your stamp isn't leveled at all). w4 i think you need to spread over 2-3 days

[manic rivet]

like 9.6 mill lol

its fine i get tomorrow

[nova lynx]

go increase your vendor stock stamp 🙂

[manic rivet]

i buy the tape every day

[nova lynx]

mine isn't that high

[manic rivet]

nvm this is hella expensive

i only have like 16 void coins

[nova lynx]

where are you at that you're about to hit 20gs? 😮 figured you'd be near me considering I just hit 20gs like a week ago

and the cost of lemons + w4 food wasn't that much

[manic rivet]

mid w5

purgatory spirits rn

[nova lynx]

oh dang you're making way better account prog than me lol

[manic rivet]

i have doot this game is easy af with doot

[nova lynx]

My ES was like lvl 370 a few maps into w6 and I had swapped to powering up my bubo - he was like lv300 when I finally had the coins and 3d prints to do all that

aah yeah. Doot the savior

[manic rivet]

at least i can buy cupcakes

easy gs there

but my food cap is so sht it takes ages to buy em lol

i wanted to make the void food bag but then i saw it taked 60 distilled water

which i dont have

as for the other equinox clouds, the lv100 all characters should be fine because most of mine are around 75

and 400 on killroy gets done whenever theres a decent mage room

oh im out of sand for blue salt i need to es active pots a bit

[solar seal]

There is not. W5 onwards, all recipes are rare drops from either mobs or minibosses, or are from boss merit tasks

[wary nymph]

Hi, I have a quick question! Regarding rare recipes like the one from Suggma (with a 1 in 50 million chance), would it be more effective to remain AFK for extended periods or to claim every 1-2 hours? I’m feeling quite desperate. I’ve had most of my characters on Suggma for quite a while now, with around a 7x drop rate and 58 million kills, yet the recipe still hasn’t dropped. I’ve never been AFK for longer than 10 hours. Could this be jeopardizing my chances of success?

[hoary oracle]

hello

[late copper]

I believe for higher rarity drops, AFKing longer at once will give you a better chance for it

I read somewhere when you AFK, the game calculates the time you AFKed, and what is the statistical chance you should get a drop, and then if reaches that, it will drop it. active will be fully relying on your DR vs the chance to drop.. but you typically kill more active

[wary nymph]

That is super helpful, thank you, so long afk + active is the best idea

[hoary oracle]

is 3645 kph on moltis good?

[simple wadi]

58 million kills according to... death note?

Because that isn't a good measure since rare drops aren't affected by multikill.

I had 3.8 billion kills according to death note when I got the recipe.

[wary nymph]

Well....... Yes, according to death note. 3.8B ? O.o I guess I will come back to it later then lol

[fast wolf]

i had less than 1m

[wary nymph]

Well, I guess it all depends on RNG gods

[fast wolf]

dont even have tab5 yet

[solar seal]

a good average i've seen is around ~1k royal suggma drops is when most seem to get the recipe. so you can use that as a better gauge than DN since loot is based on base kills rather than MK

[hoary oracle]

is 3645 kph good for moltis map? im trying to figure out if i need to get more kph

[manic rivet]

its fine

you can push with that but i wouldn't candy

[wary nymph]

Seems a better way of measurement than time. Yeah, I only got 250, long way ahead

[teal brook]

tips on how to use the arrow head artifact for sailing?

[hoary oracle]

k

[bleak gazelle]

don't unless you're going afk for a long time

[hoary oracle]

i have only 2.9-5.9 million damage but almost everytime i get like 20-40 mil. why is that. my crit rate and damage arnt even that good i think

[manic rivet]

what class

[hoary oracle]

dk

is it the attacks?

[forest dust]

Can I go fight NPC's while the owl gets feathers?

[hoary oracle]

ye it always is going

[teal brook]

the %dmg boost your abilities get

[hoary oracle]

k

[forest dust]

Ah that's quite confident

Can't spell but yh

[mortal sage]

what should my 3rd mage be, I have 1 ES and 1 Bubo

[teal brook]

1 more ES

[hoary oracle]

ye = yes / yeah. uses less letters. wastes less time

[teal brook]

ye i gt t

[hoary oracle]

[manic rivet]

2nd es

[mortal sage]

alr ty

[peak verge]

Once you enter W5, I know there's something that also gives double kills and you can stack it with the lab one. How hard is it to get that thing?

[ripe tinsel]

Depends on your luck and how many people you throw into divinity.

But the most difficult part in reaching it is patience.

[peak verge]

Is divinity another lab type thing?

[ripe tinsel]

Yeah

But once you get far enough in divinity you can do both at once

[peak verge]

Are divinities active at all time at least or something along those lines?

[ripe tinsel]

If you've got Doot, all are active all the time, otherwise you'll have to chose between a single one and can change them twice a week.

However they all have a permanent bonus which is active all the time anyway which can be upgraded individually as you progress

[peak verge]

What part of div is luck based?

[ripe tinsel]

Unlocking the Gods in the first place, and getting the currency to earn a "try" is the time based component, as well as leveling Div

[peak verge]

Lord grant me patience for if you grant me strenght I'll defenestrate this laptop...

[main kettle]

What the heck is this

[fast wolf]

SO CLOSE

in a few hrs ill get it

[peak verge]

I'm trying to dredge through this and contemplated whether to convert to full afk and just candy my way into W5 so I can 4x push everyone else... but I don't think that's the play.

[main kettle]

Could you please show the stats, I know am not even close to it but I’d like to know

[main kettle]

holy moly

[peak verge]

Wait, armor recipe drop? Tf? Not anvil unlock / boss gear?

[solar seal]

w5 on, all recipes are rare mob drops, mini boss drops, or boss merit tasks

[fast wolf]

need this asap

[peak verge]

https://tenor.com/view/cod-mw2-cod-mw2ghost-cod-ghost-ghost-stare-stare-gif-27067874

[fast wolf]

any suggestions abt what i should set this to

[teal brook]

is it hard to get wave 50 in W5 totem ? or any must have req?

[solar seal]

don't touch it

[fast wolf]

y?

[echo crag]

the odds get so small that you'll basically want to toss at wall till it stick and bigger chests dont really make it better

[solar seal]

like every other thing in game that has low odds rolls, you want as many attempts at low odds versus less attempts at only slightly better odds

[sharp oyster]

i'm about 60 hrs away from kattlekruk on my ES, sitting at ~20M max damage. should i try to just candy the last map and give the boss a shot? i don't really care if it takes long to kill

[teal brook]

the main part is you need the dmg to kills the moles unless kattlekrurk becomes unkillabel

on ES you should be abel to easily have 30mil or more tho

[sharp oyster]

yeah, that's what i've heard, but i don't really see a way to push damage much further quickly, feels like i just have to work on everything but the increases are pretty small

[bleak gazelle]

W5 is typically when most people have to backtrack to work on things they glossed over

Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, artifacts, divinities, owl, dungeon flurbos, and talents are all sources of damage

[echo gulch]

can anyone help me with breeding

i am kinda stuck and cant even get a new pet even when chance is 1 in 60

[bleak gazelle]

What level are you?

[echo gulch]

which kinda affects my spices and cooking

[bleak gazelle]

lul, this pack rolled in

[fast wolf]

pain

i can get it in an hr or smth

[fast wolf]

y does this pack exist

and wat lvl is ur turkey

[warm pike]

Ace I’m getting mad at you💥

I’m gonna steal your storage chest

[junior dune]

I believe it's the best value on a per gem basis.

[peak verge]

In W4, cooking and lab start very slow while breeding is sorta quick enough to get going.

What about div, gaming and sailing in W5?

[echo crag]

all slow

[peak verge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/647203981059293188/871439464696795247/mercy.gif

[echo gulch]

lvl 30

[bleak gazelle]

You've got access to the PastPres multiplier then, I believe. So working on earlier world pets helps with unlocking later worlds. Beyond that, for now, just make sure your BM has the highest possible XP talent and claim on him

Splicer and breedability levels, but you should know that already

Don't let eggs build up, just use them as fast as you can, similar to rolling mutations in gaming, quantity > quality

[teal brook]

anjy tips on what to use to clear wave 50 in w5 Totem?

[bleak gazelle]

The one in !guide should be good or you can use pancakes https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084925174517866496

If you search through endgame chat you might be able to find more setups he's done

[teal brook]

all of them go for so late tho and i know my lvl on poisonic , party and kraken aint at that lvl but i only need 50

[vocal ibex]

What's max level of towers end game ?

My fireball sitting at 90 can't go past that

[junior dune]

50 base + 40 from normal atom lvls + 20 from last superbit atom lvls + 30 from construction mastery = 140 total

This is the account with the most building lvls on the toolbox leaderboards. https://idleontoolbox.com/account/world-3/buildings?profile=Speshled The max tower they have is 110

Their build rate looks significantly lower than some in and game though so it's probably a bit outdated.

[calm bridge]

tips?

[junior dune]

Try looter, refiller, peapod, borger

[vocal ibex]

@junior dune thanks I see why it's stuck can't go past

If you can get some good upgrade stones do it asap it helps with damage and efficiency (3d prints )

[manic rivet]

finally smth decent from sailing

havent gotten an arti in a good while

[strong nexus]

what hapen if you megafeather after you have all 10/

[modern meteor]

whats the 9th mf do

[strong nexus]

the cost of feather generation scale 25% slower

10th feather =orion bonus 6x

[ivory heron]

Heya, just quick question. How does slab work? Do you need to drop and pick items? Or store it in?

[strong nexus]

drop and pick

it count only the item you pick from the floor

[ivory heron]

Hmm thanks idk why but i tried that with the sculpting tools but still doesnt count lol

[nova lynx]

each one adds +0.5x to the orion bonuses

[strong nexus]

is it better to just try to push the level or megafeather

[teal brook]

my guess is feathers until 10 then orion until its hella expensive then back to feathers

[strong nexus]

well my bonus is level 17 is cost me 6e25 is that costy?

[nova lynx]

Yeah I'd assume push megafeather if orion isn't close or cheaper than MF cost.

After MF10 orion might be better to farm to a certain extent, not knowledgable enough in teh area. But a 0.5x multiplier to all orions is prob better from MF than farming a specific single orion bonus lvl

[warm pike]

My cousin js dementia plated like 4 meals with 3.5k cooking spd😭😭😭😭 does someone have a link to a guide

[nova lynx]

wtf how lol

Prioritize cooking speed upgrade meals - IT/IE should help you figure out quickest to lvl

Get a michelin kitchen (at least 1) if youcan

[fiery bronze]

what is a megafeather and how do i get itø

[bleak gazelle]

10th feather upgrade, should get it around the time you reset 5 times

[strong nexus]

megafeather is the last box of the owl systeme you need 100b feather total to unlock it gething the magefeather will reset the systeme (restar bonus and shiny feather) in exchange from a permanent bonus 1 megafeather is 10x on the valu of feather generator

[fiery bronze]

thanks

[main kettle]

What should I do in this situation

[strong nexus]

wait until you get 70-80 shiny feather then reset

[main kettle]

okay

I maxed everything important for now, what should I put points in

[modern meteor]

either checkout talent books

or dump it into other talents

[main kettle]

likee?

[modern meteor]

this is combat build?

maybe into the one with 2 swords

forgor the name

more dmg

[main kettle]

Double strike isn’t more damage

[tardy ridge]

reset and next time buy mega

[hoary oracle]

700 kills from next map

getting close to kruk

sort of

[modern meteor]

which map

[hoary oracle]

the purgatory stalkers. i got there actully just a minute ago

[dull ember]

I got the megafether

[dense coral]

Nice now it’s 10x faster

[gusty mantle]

how ot optimise dmg?

strugglin to push at a reasonable pace in W5

[hoary oracle]

can i see ie?

also dk or es

[gusty mantle]

ahhh im pushing with Zerker

So thats probably my issue

[hoary oracle]

ye bb is fine but es and dk are better.

es is good if your looking for damage

dk is good if your looking for aoe and active play

[gusty mantle]

https://thebiggestding.idleonefficiency.com/

[bleak gazelle]

afk pushing with BB is "fine" you'll mostly struggle with damage for boss due to lack of consistant aoe

you can check 2nd 📌 for an infographic on recommended ranges for killing boss

[hoary oracle]

really the ie isnt looking too shabby i would say

[gusty mantle]

i think im a bit sandbagged in spots, and in other areas I'm really lacking. Like Blue souls

Struggling on that TD

[hoary oracle]

yeah

just switch to es or dk. really either one is fine tho. just see which would be better for u

[gusty mantle]

probably DK, has better gear

should i swap BZ gear to DK?

[hoary oracle]

if u want

normally a mix of dementia and void is good enough

what is damage for dk?

[gusty mantle]

3-5.6m

[hoary oracle]

not that bad

thats around what im at

[gusty mantle]

BZ is 15-45m

[hoary oracle]

oh i just realized you need to unlock nubisect still

that will help a ton with damage and kills

[gusty mantle]

what is nubisect?

[hoary oracle]

the third divinity god

[gusty mantle]

oh ok

should i get an ES onto that?

[hoary oracle]

ye

[gusty mantle]

kk

[hoary oracle]

also the third island has a artifact called fun hippote that gives 6% damage per power of ten construction build.

so thats good for damage

[gusty mantle]

oooh

[urban minnow]

Does anyone know if King Doot companion still gives undiscovered dinivities

Or if there is any issue with the Doot because I don't seem to be getting the bonuses correctly?

[bleak gazelle]

https://imgur.com/rfx0Wvm

[urban minnow]

Ty so much

[gusty mantle]

is there anything that actually boosts exp for div

[still apex]

Multiple. They just have to specify divinity.
A Stamp, a bubble and a card. I don't know any more off the top of my head.

[uneven jacinth]

is there a known rate of shiny feather gain?

[solar seal]

there is, but its not simple. if you want to know the math: look #endgame-gen-chat message

[gusty mantle]

no access?

[bleak gazelle]

#👀read-me react with on second message

[solar seal]

ace got my back

[ebon helm]

how does the arrowhead work? I don't see any new interface in the sailing stuff

[bleak gazelle]

it's on the lefthand side of the map

however, you very rarely want to use it, typically only if you're going away for a long time

with how sailing (and gaming) work, quantity > quality when rolling for artifacts/mutations

adjusting which chest level you get sounds nice but it just leads to lots of time with no chests since they'll discard anything below your threshold

[ebon helm]

cool, on the note of gaming, what is best to prioritize for my bits? so far I've been getting more sprouts whenever it's down to about 10x the speed and values

[bleak gazelle]

max sprouts is always the play then just level up both speed/value whenever

there's really no wrong upgrade

[thorn kindle]

anybody got all the feathers unlocked?

[bleak gazelle]

Quite a few people, if you want a list of mega bonuses then check here #endgame-chat-w7🐟 message

[thorn kindle]

ty

[hoary oracle]

hi

[short sparrow]

Kangaroo rat, fishing in the desert, hmmm

[sage latch]

whats the best map for crystal farming in w5?

[short sparrow]

Citringes probably

[sage latch]

oh yea

[bleak gazelle]

wurms or citringes are both pretty close

wurms gets you boss keys too

[frigid swift]

wurms fer lyfe

[bleak gazelle]

ayo you're alive

[frigid swift]

alive is a loose term.

[bleak gazelle]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1208108939313684621

tl;dr just spam bottom row

assuming you're pre-red color

[zinc torrent]

early game u need more hp, and u can spam bottom lane and pray for rng not much mobs spawn in bot lanr

[wild forum]

does keeping pink pets increase their stats?
breedability from it increase their power?

[frigid swift]

talkin bout the pink ones with hearts? they go into hte fenceyard to "breed' which increases the chances to unlock the next pet

[bleak gazelle]

Nope, only thing that affects power is BM talent and egg rarity, but most of it is still just rng. Breedability just helps you unlock the next pet

[delicate herald]

Is there a 11th feather?

[bleak gazelle]

#endgame-chat-w7🐟 message

[bleak gazelle]

🎉

[gilded pond]

is there a TD guide for lvl 121 on citringes?

[bleak gazelle]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084925174517866496

Check top of that thread if you don't have access to endgame-talk channel

[rancid zephyr]

how do i even get mega feather

[worldly lagoon]

that's one of the best vials in game, huge congrats

[bleak gazelle]

you collect a lot of feathers

[worldly lagoon]

it's the final upgrade in feathers, it's a mega reset, resets everything but gives you a new perminent buff (doesn't reset orion either)

[rancid zephyr]

ohh how much is it

[worldly lagoon]

the entire goal of owl is to push mega resets for mega feathers

[worldly lagoon]

first one is 100b, scales higher each time

[rancid zephyr]

oh ok thx

[umbral nexus]

Does the fun hippoete make a crazy difference in damage?

I feel like 6% for every 10 build rate is brazy

[bleak gazelle]

depends on your build rate
like most other things it'll start off slow

[umbral nexus]

Does a 10k build rate make a 6000% increase in damage?

I honestly know I’m not reading that right

[bleak gazelle]

pretty sure it's power of 10

so 10^4

so 4*6

which in itself isn't terrible, but it gets thrown into the pool of other "total damage" modifiers

[umbral nexus]

Try to explain that as if I were 6 years old.

[frigid swift]

more build rate = more dmg. but not as much dmg as you math'd

ex. 10 = 6% 100 = 12% 1,000 = 18%

[bleak gazelle]

A power of 10 is any of the integer powers of the number ten; in other words, *ten multiplied by itself a certain number of times*

[umbral nexus]

Ahhh yes the example made it make alot of sense

[bleak gazelle]

And yes you get partial amounts in between those numbers

[umbral nexus]

Is it across all the other damage multipliers

[bleak gazelle]

what do you mean by across?

[umbral nexus]

Combined?

Idk I’m super stoned

Account for

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, all "total dmg" multipliers get added together

Then they're multiplied with other types of damage modifiers

[umbral nexus]

Ahhh okay

[bleak gazelle]

So different damage modifiers will give different results

Based on the size of the group they belong to

[frigid swift]

so slow. lol

[bleak gazelle]

Some things like the Phoenix Wings are in a group by themselves (or with maybe one other item) so their effect is quite large

[bleak gazelle]

Aye, you're about right where I'm at

[umbral nexus]

Phoenix wings go hard is there something better than them?

[bleak gazelle]

For damage? I don't think so, not in the cape slot, at least

[frigid swift]

isnt the bouquet supposed to be super good. or was it jujst super rare

[bleak gazelle]

There's the Gladiatory Trophy from the quest and the Deathblossom Pendant from the last limited shop rotation that were pretty good, too

[manic rivet]

10m

[severe spire]

Hey, I just got to world 5 :), could anyone advice me on how to start divinity? Seems the exp per hour is pretty low. Any tips on getting this up?

[gentle furnace]

No tips to skip early div pain

Its timegated

[severe spire]

Oke thanks

[wanton obsidian]

Get everyone on divinity then join the owl staring contest club

[severe spire]

1 more thing, it seems my Bubo gets 2 exp per hour, but I cant figure out how

[wanton obsidian]

Mage specialises in divinity that's why

[severe spire]

Ahhhh oke oke

[wanton obsidian]

Altho it says es specialises with divinity in reality it's all mages

[severe spire]

Is div Wisdom driven?

[wanton obsidian]

Same as how beast master also specialises in catching but just lacks the skill talents for it

[wanton obsidian]

Nope

[wanton obsidian]

It's this that increases it

I'm on warrior but you get what I mean

[severe spire]

Ahhh yea yea I get it!

So all mages are specialized in Woodcutting and Div for example?

[wanton obsidian]

As well as lab

[severe spire]

And all warriors are Specialized in Mining and Fishing?

[wanton obsidian]

That's right

[severe spire]

oke oke thanks!

[wanton obsidian]

But obviously blood beserker is always gonna be better than dk with fishing cuz it has the right talents for it that dk doesn't

[severe spire]

yea that makes sense

Thanks a bunch! There is so much to learn 😛

[wanton obsidian]

If you're ever low on bugs you can use beast master on catching

[severe spire]

is this talent worth it early?

[sweet temple]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[wanton obsidian]

For sure get it

Book it if you have to

[potent gust]

i'm so dumb. I just realised how many infinite star signs i had now

[rancid zephyr]

what does multiplicative even mean

[hazy atlas]

I'm at 1.5b kills of Suggmas with 9.88 drop rate. Over 2k royal urns. Still no adept recipe drop. Is it at all possible this is bugged in some way?

I once lost connection after claiming afk but before picking it up off the ground and I can't help but feel like the recipe dropped but I didn't learn it yet it's flagged to not drop again.

[gilded sedge]

lets say u have a 10x boost, and then u get another 10x boost. if the other 10x boost is additive, then the total boost will be 10x +10x = 20x, if its multiplicative it will be 10x*10x = 100x

[rancid zephyr]

ohh i understand thx

[worldly lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/calculating-puzzled-math-confused-confused-look-gif-14677181

[prime stone]

The flag to not drop again is only triggered after using the recipe afaik

[zinc torrent]

u unlucky that's just it

[sharp glacier]

The pinned message says on an es you only need about 30m damge to get through kattlekruk

This is my stat sheet and it's not working?

[lethal aspen]

wym not working

[sharp glacier]

I mean damage is not enogh

The moles have too much health

[lethal aspen]

you using maxed* abilities?

idk who came up with that 30m anyway

[sharp glacier]

Yes they're on auto

It's not possible with 30m i think

Watched a video and it said I should be able to 1-2 shot the moles

And that's really not happening

[lethal aspen]

oh u dont have 100% accuracy either

[sharp glacier]

Yah I fixed that just needed 4% more

Anyone know a better damage number to aim for before trying kattlekruk?

[sharp glacier]

All my es abilities are at 110, my tornado and volcano are at 150

[lethal aspen]

110 aint enough

get the lightning barrage maxed as much as u can

that'll be huge

and your an ES, you should have way more free talent levels too 🤔

[sharp glacier]

Free talent levels as in?

[lethal aspen]

bear god link, ES family bonus, family bonus buff thing, etc

[sharp glacier]

I think I'm too low leveled thats why

[lethal aspen]

go book it first

[sharp glacier]

The max book I can get evrything to would be around 150ish

[lethal aspen]

150 is still good for barrage

[sharp glacier]

Ah thanks then I'll take some points out of utmost intellect and put those into lightning

[lethal aspen]

want tips on your talents?

[sharp glacier]

Yes plz

[lethal aspen]

post what you got now ig

[jolly oak]

Anyone around willing to take a look at my IT to recommend bubbles to atom?

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=Punky_Monkey I see that eyeball 👀 I'm currently hourly clicking stats, Call Me Ash, Slabo Critterbug, FMJ, drop rate bubble -> I know the drop rate caps but what else is my BB going to print )

[lethal aspen]

I'd probably look at w5 bubbles for now?

slabi orefish, power trione, slabo agi, slabe wis, slabe logsoul

If your really out of ideas just get every bubble atomable first lol, you got a few that aren't even at 100m res caps yet

[jolly oak]

I got bored cause those that aren't atomable seems... pretty useless, but I'll look into that again!

[lethal aspen]

Just look at what nblb is hitting and if its not trapping/souls i'd probably upgrade it normally

[jolly oak]

5 bubbles for 50 atom upgrades

[junior dune]

Hammer hammer is nice for hourly clicks and you should manage it on just one slot

[jolly oak]

what about... smithing mats

[jolly oak]

I used to do that, now my carry cap can't handle it anymore

[lethal aspen]

and that too 😅 , its still doable but i wouldnt bother with it lol

[jolly oak]

I was legit so burnt out doing threads and nails vials

[lethal aspen]

But yeah not much advice i got for you, maybe #endgame-chat-w7🐟 can give ya some

imagine having doot

[jolly oak]

you've helped a lot!

[jolly oak]

I got mine like 2 weeks ago

[lethal aspen]

I'll use my free try now

rip sheepie

also @jolly oak not sure if this is atomable yet but its huge

[jolly oak]

I got 135m mats so I just made it atomable xD

time to spam that I suppose

[lethal aspen]

but yeah just look at getting w5/6 bubbles to 1b cap first

[lethal aspen]

well the ones u can do (fuck farming)

[jolly oak]

xD I used bargain tags on anything farm mat required

[junior dune]

Trione tritwo and trithree should give some decent damage boosts with not that many atoms

[jolly oak]

I'll look into getting them to 90% of cap then!

[lethal aspen]

like how u hate archer tho

[jolly oak]

I don't hate them it's just been a hot minute since I've actived on one so I've... neglected their bubbles

[junior dune]

I don't know if 90% is worth it since dmg isn't that relevant endgame, but like 80 or 85 should definitely be

[lethal aspen]

at least 75% 😅

[jolly oak]

80 is definitely doable in a week or so

then I may just go on a call me bob spree 🙃

[lethal aspen]

oh right let me take a look at what bubbbles you shud get atomable too 🤔

[jolly oak]

hot damn thank you

[sharp glacier]

Okay wait

@lethal aspen

[lethal aspen]

bruh i did not just see that

[junior dune]

Accuracy is irrelevant now and it doesn't take up a NBLB spot so it's fine imo

[jolly oak]

I could future proof it from NBLB

[lethal aspen]

it will soon lol

[junior dune]

This shouldn't be in NBLB though

[lethal aspen]

anyway shiny chance and the talent point ones are good too

[jolly oak]

that bubble is ugly af 😦

why did I ever level it

[junior dune]

Not that I'm one to talk...

[lethal aspen]

i dont even look at nblb anymore

[junior dune]

I really should fix that right now

[lethal aspen]

if only it could hit w6

[jolly oak]

we can pray

[sharp glacier]

?

[lethal aspen]

Tab1: book mp + put points in crit
Tab2: Add some points in the bottom right one, it gives dmg
Tab3: Those points in vial thing are only needed the first time, put points in the statue talent
Tab4: You don’t need wormhole for bossing, max out the wis% thing and barrage

@sharp glacier ^

[sharp glacier]

Aaaah

Got it

I'm gonna max out some of the damage I can before hand first then I'll reset and try this

Thanks alot!

[severe spire]

Does the Blunder Hills Card set bonus apply to skills aswell?

[gentle furnace]

no

only class exp

[severe spire]

Ahh sad 😦

[forest dust]

Where's this world 2 thing that lava is telling me to go to

[gentle furnace]

future content

[forest dust]

Ahh

[severe spire]

Do you know if Royal Sampler should be off when leveling Divinity

[gentle furnace]

w5 skills is not affected by any outer source

they have their own eff and exp multi

[candid oracle]

this dang bird needs an 'use all feathers when clicking' option

i spend most of my time keeping the mouse pressed

[zinc torrent]

gonna sov in a few days

[zinc torrent]

needs an auto deposit button that spread them evenly

[soft canopy]

Am I just Sol on the slab for the items that I can't get anymore (old quest items).

[toxic saddle]

Our artifacts basically look the same

I also get sov soon too

[severe spire]

Could someone tell me if I am able to only Link once per week, or am i only allowed to unLink once per week in Divinity?

[sterile bison]

A couple can be reclaimed from the codex but for the most part yeah unfortunately sol

[soft canopy]

Rip, ima try and reclaim what i can

[sterile bison]

Unlink twice per week and that’s for the whole account not per character so make sure to unlink everyone you want to at the same time

[bright meteor]

1st Endercaptain

[soft canopy]

none of them are reclaimable...thats a bad spot to have to just deal with

[sterile bison]

Yeah plus they don’t count for looty which sucks too

[soft canopy]

yeah i've been having to drop my wings, name tags, and some other odd things here and there to get it to count

[sterile bison]

Yeah that’s become my habit get/craft something and immediately drop it

[soft canopy]

or sell it off, then need it 3 steps later in a process

[severe spire]

Wait so u can only unlock 2 characters per account?

[soft canopy]

unless you get doot as a pet, You can only unlink\relink 2 a day or a week.

unsure of specifics there

[sterile bison]

No per week you get 2 unlinks which is for multiple chars you can unlink all ten chars twice a week but to do that you have to unlink everyone at one time then again at another

[gusty snow]

how to open the divinity link overview?

so you can see each character etcv

[lethal aspen]

the what

[celest cypress]

You mean this?

[gusty snow]

yeah that one, i was afraid to click unlink, but i got it 😂

[strong nexus]

would the fishing kangooroo another owl systeme or something else?

[vital crypt]

Whats the best stat for a captain in sailing

[sharp mauve]

Loot > Speed, Artifact Chance

[vital crypt]

Alr thx

[thin lark]

Needs more Omni

[peak verge]

What's the best way to go about div? Do you gamble on the 50% or do you just hoard for 100?

[nova lynx]

Two main strats: if you get a 100% opportunity, save and guarantee the purchase. Until then roll the lowball offer.
Strat 2 - lowball forever even with 100% option (I vote the first strat)

[solar seal]

to provide 2nd opinion, speed (if your boats can't do min time to furthest island, 100M) > loot

[frigid swift]

Alrighty so whats worth it from the limited shop this rotation? Feather name tag or dmg keychain?

[bleak gazelle]

not the keychains

[bleak gazelle]

is it even it's own slab item?

[frigid swift]

eyyoooo new slab emoji

[solar seal]

i stole it from rasha, dunno what server its from :3

if its not on there yet, i suspect it will be

[frigid swift]

that silly feather tag worth it? the 1.2x dmg or

[bleak gazelle]

i figured since that style of keychain already exists from dungeon, i don't think this is a second slab item, just higher rolls

feather nametag is on slab. might be useful for ES portal farming? but we've got ther 40% DR nametag, too, so idk if it's actually worth it

[frigid swift]

i already have that 40% dr one

[bright meteor]

buy it for me I wanna reach x16 dr

[frigid swift]

Sure thing. soon as trading is introduced

[bright meteor]

what's your dr at on dk?

[frigid swift]

dunno been gone for a month

[bright meteor]

Yeah I noticed that

[strong nexus]

2 more pristine charm on my colection today got +1,5 drop rate and +1,5 money drop

[bright meteor]

bruh drop rate op

[frigid swift]

Spose i should prob start w3 statues eh? lol @bleak gazelle

[bright meteor]

I have x1.2 dmg and x1.4 money f2p

[peak verge]

Anyone?

[bright meteor]

I'm working w5 statues...

[frigid swift]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[bleak gazelle]

idk man I did box traps and then realized I should have picked up yondergreen's quest so now I just don't want to do any of the others

[frigid swift]

lol

[peak verge]

Oh I'm blind mb.

[bleak gazelle]

since then though i've gotten like 6x DR so

[frigid swift]

im too lazy to check my actual DR on my DK

[bleak gazelle]

There's also a div guide in 📌 that covers it a bit, talks about yellow bubble too. I would probably roll to 100% at least till goat (or tiger) then yolo the rest if you don't care that much

[frigid swift]

but its around 18+. currently just with switching my cards to crystal chance set and using my basic farming dr set im at 16. without doublers or star sign or w.e

[peak verge]

So never fuck with the 25 and 50%?

[solar seal]

only if you are a gambler

[nova lynx]

Up to you

I love my 1%’ers more than any other except the golden 💯

[peak verge]

25 nah but 50... coin flips and all

[peak verge]

So you just roll 1s until you get 100 on high?

[nova lynx]

I roll the low (not always guaranteed to be 1) until I get the god or have a 100 opportunity

[upper mulch]

why does the dreadlo pick need you to put starfire bars onto a starfire pick?

[solar seal]

don't ask logic of crafting materials. 8 cooking clogs to make 1 troll shoes is behind odd

that's 7 needy children that could've had shoes!

[peak verge]

Well whaddyaknow...

[upper mulch]

also does doot make it so everyone is connected to the only 1 connection gods or no?

[nova lynx]

lol on first god? I didn’t get this dilemma but I think it’s more optional.

[peak verge]

Just got to W5 yesterday, trying to get my bearings about div and sailing.

[nova lynx]

Div is mostly just camp a bunch until you unlock bear then link everyone to bear except pushers and then camp more until you unlock goat. Then everyone is goat and goes to camp lab (since they get div as well in lab w: goat)

Sailing is a bit more straight forward where you can’t entirely go wrong and slow as well

[peak verge]

What do the artifacts from sailing do?

[bleak gazelle]

Many things, there's... 30 of them? 33 now with w6?

[peak verge]

Wasn't there a lab feature that did the exact same thing?

[bleak gazelle]

Check second 📌 to see the differences

[peak verge]

Oh, I see. Pretty solid buffs ngl.

What's with the ancient form?

[bleak gazelle]

Upgraded versions you find after unlocking the regular, just sail back to the same island, lower find chance

[peak verge]

Solid solid.

[frigid swift]

when you collect traps on hte wrong person and now youir depositing all your critters 121 at a time

[bleak gazelle]

lul

i just made it a habit to always login to BM first

[frigid swift]

this sucks. im tempted to just take the L

[vital crypt]

I still have 3 islands left to unlock
Takes too much time

[bleak gazelle]

time for some more speed

[frigid swift]

how your feathers lookin ace

[bleak gazelle]

lul

still just mega 1, a few resets in

[main kettle]

So for divinity, my gods bonus increase with my level?

so if I have a low divinity level I get a lower bonus

[bleak gazelle]

the minor link bonus increases with div level and the yellow Big P bubble

major link is always the same. blessing increases with resources spent to upgrade it and eventually with god ranks later in w6

[main kettle]

Ohh alright that’s why I wasn’t getting much accuracy and defense lol

[strong nexus]

2 troll boot finish 8 more to go

[frigid swift]

Might go for my 2nd mega this reset.

[nova lynx]

i don't think it's worth

[bleak gazelle]

I think these were recommended levels unless you're afking for a while

[nova lynx]

yeah and your resets make you go uber fast

Just hit MF reset 11, think I'll get shiny feathers going again and then taking BB back to lab

[frigid swift]

yea iu just went from 1.4m /s to 10m/s

im not really paying attention to how many resets im doing.

i just check it every couple hours and reset

[nova lynx]

basically just see if your reset costs more or less than mega reset. If you aren't getting mega reset to pop up pretty instant after like mega reset #3 or 4 then you know you need to do base reset 🙂

[frigid swift]

yeh its startin to slow down now that im at like 30m/s

[nova lynx]

this is where resets come in clutch

Shiny Feathers is the break point where you can basically do reset cycles real fast

until you're ready for Mega reset or orion bonus

[frigid swift]

this is where im at atm. so prob need to base reset once or twice more.

[nova lynx]

🤷 depends on upgrade costs. You might be able to spam upgrade shiny feathers and other bonuses to put that at 200m/s

[frigid swift]

atm about 100m per click

[nova lynx]

then yeah prob worht resetting

[bright meteor]

still didn't get those 10 mf hah

[hoary oracle]

hello

[nova lynx]

ello

[bleak gazelle]

[hoary oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-wave-cute-anime-cartoon-gif-13975234520976942340

[nova lynx]

pet roll, weeeeee. let's see what t1 pet i end up with today

[hoary oracle]

ya never know. i got a rift slug a couple days ago

[nova lynx]

Just another sheepie for the 5th time.

I can't complain, only waiting on rift slug and doot at this point. but seems like it'll never happen

[hoary oracle]

lol

[hoary oracle]

before i got rift slug i hadnt even cracked to the top 4

[bright meteor]

What are you up to today?

[hoary oracle]

grinding w5

[bright meteor]

What precise xD

[hoary oracle]

at purgatory stalkers

[bright meteor]

Imma go back w5 statues farming 😒

[hoary oracle]

;((((

[warm kelp]

I only have W6 and accuarcy statues left. Ill wait until I have equonix drop rate upgrade

[nova lynx]

statue farming... still don't have enough DR to start any of that

[bleak gazelle]

what are you at?

[nova lynx]

current leveling a noob so his is pretty bad. Think my bubo/ES are in the 5.x range?

[bleak gazelle]

ooh, yeah, that do be a bit low still

[nova lynx]

Isn't it like 8-10x is the eaaarliest to start attempting?

[bleak gazelle]

Just make sure you're ready to pick up choco chip in october if you don't have one already

[nova lynx]

I do not 😢

I should go peep what it needs

[bleak gazelle]

I'd say you can start around 8x if you go with sandy pots, that'll help you out with getting dice obol too

honestly maybe even earlier, but that's if you have choco

otherwise i'd just focus on pop obols and card farming

[frigid swift]

sadge. back to slow feathers again

[warm kelp]

Quack can u share your idle efficieny

[frigid swift]

its gross. but sure

https://cptbear.idleonefficiency.com

[warm kelp]

We used to be pretty equal in some areas so i'd love to check out

[frigid swift]

Ive been gone for a month

[warm kelp]

ur snow miniboss is full 😄

[frigid swift]

yep

[nova lynx]

aaah pop obols. I need to do that for sure.

I think my current active AFK to-do list is:
Get every char to 250 (pretty easy now, just a day or two in w6 active AFK)

Then dancing between active bubo and the two below:
Card farming (not sure what all I need to do except the obvious ones, poop + demon genie for crystal spawn)
Pop obol farming??? @ gigas? with ES?

[nova lynx]

Ah I forgot I need ot start working on skilling for all my peeps outside their specialties since I got Skill Mastery from rift recently

[junior dune]

Welcome back Quack!

[frigid swift]

ah what the crap. my idleon just did a white screen on me

[bleak gazelle]

smash that ctrl r

[frigid swift]

i just force closed

[junior dune]

Alt F4

[nova lynx]

wait ctrl+r fixes white screen?

[junior dune]

One of the few times that is actually reasonable advice

[bleak gazelle]

so i've heard. haven't actually tried it because no white screen in a while and i'd probably forget when it happens

[nova lynx]

I white screened on the owl when I didn't realize you could just hold the mouse down

[junior dune]

Play some cog clicker and you will get one soon enough

[nova lynx]

But besides that, haven't white screened myself in a while either

[junior dune]

They are better but definitely still there

[frigid swift]

yea i dont really get it often either.

except like if im running Idleon, CoD, and another game at the same time

[nova lynx]

Damn DK goes pretty hard in w6 map 1 for power leveling hah. 100 -> 165 in the past... 12mins? Definitely quicker than SB and BM (at least w/ my stats)

the weekly refresh on giant spawns is helping a lot too I'm sure

[bleak gazelle]

at that low level anything should honestly

[nova lynx]

Yeah I know. W6 exp just so much better than others since my account is solid enough now to be mostly 1 shotting the first map

[junior dune]

I wonder just how hard the lvl 500 dream was before. Must have taken weeks of grind time lvling at least

[nova lynx]

There's one that requires lvl 500 on everyone? damn

[junior dune]

Yep. Will be completing it today

[nova lynx]

That's a distant dream for me. My pushing Bubo/ES are slow crawling in the upper 300's. Plenty of account bonuses to go before I see anyone at 500 lol

[frigid swift]

my bubo used to be way higher than my others. then i started statue farming with DK. lol

[devout holly]

Why cant I get the Suggma monster rare drop for beginner class gloves?

[nova lynx]

because drop rate is ludicrous

[echo crag]

500 is easier than you think with w6

use bubo a littl to boost gt a little and it goes fast

[nova lynx]

If I was in w6 lobby when it launched, sure. But since I was in early w4 when w6 launched, there's a ton of account creep I needa work on

Yeah still need to get sailing going more to get 200 tent and then can really do bubo moves

[echo crag]

200 make bubo dumb, but anything above 165 is ok for gt farm

[nova lynx]

I think I can get CC every 1-1.5 hrs with my bubo rn (tent is like 167)

[echo crag]

ppl where constantly farming with bubo when w5 wasn even out

[nova lynx]

And I get like 20-25k seconds of prog, so 5.5 - 7hrs

[hoary oracle]

im only at 14k accuracy for my es? how can i get it up quickly?

[nova lynx]

get strength

get the accuracy prayer

[echo crag]

important part is to get the cc bubble and alch pobox

[nova lynx]

I thought mana box was more important?

[echo crag]

mana helps too with cc cooldown, but alch po box increase the duration of cc

[nova lynx]

Either way, looks like I can go pump some points in. I had been neglecting POBox real bad

[modern meteor]

Is there a way to increase dmg fast

[echo crag]

did you manage to pick up choco last time it was on rotation ?

[nova lynx]

if you entered a new world, redo armor with higher world stones.

[nova lynx]

Nah. Not even sure when it last was on rotation

[hoary oracle]

which world?

[nova lynx]

Don't think it has been since I've been aware of it

[modern meteor]

6 💀

[hoary oracle]

oh ok

[echo crag]

ok =/ since crystal farming would help with po box through pens

and bubbo want crystal farm build for more mobs

[hoary oracle]

im not in 6 so i cant rlly help sorry

[modern meteor]

lol

[nova lynx]

What's your dmg? Why does it need to go up (for map prog)? Give some context + IE. Truth be told in w6 it's prob just account bonuses

[nova lynx]

Didn't know this. You know how to see the choco that's coming in October? I can only see up until Aug via IT

[echo crag]

summoning wins and more crops will help get higher dmg

[modern meteor]

;-;

[nova lynx]

you're ahead of me but two easy changes are void -> chiz for helm+Chest

[modern meteor]

Nah I’m going for troll

[sharp glacier]

Does goat god also give divinity exp?

[modern meteor]

If in lab

[sharp glacier]

Ah cool

Thanks

[bleak gazelle]

you can use your royal urn count as an average (if you haven't used many for stamps). 1k urns is in the ballpark for getting thr recipe drop, but plenty of folks go beyond that

[nova lynx]

gracias. choco chip is pretty easy to get, but i'll make sure to have my 200k pinion spurs ready by then

It'll be here in October and then 4 weeks later 😄

[echo crag]

get both if you can, makes less swaping around

[modern meteor]

I got it in 300k kills

[nova lynx]

Yeah I will definitely shoot for that. Then Omega Nanochip and Omega Motherboard are the other two chips for crystal farm build right? Since you enhance your Crystal spawn cards. Not sure I'll have access to the spices/meals in time (nor the mats but I can try to brute force the fairies and krakens TBH)

[echo crag]

yeah the 2 black chip are the card doublers

their great for crystal farm, but everything else too obviously

helps with sampling

[nova lynx]

I'm 20 and 22 meals away from the stuff neede dfor black chips, crap lol

How do I go from 26 meals total rn to 46/48 meals in a couple months 😅

[echo crag]

reach w6

[nova lynx]

I'm there. But my cooking/breeding are crap

[echo crag]

cooking get bufff from the summoning wins

when your sneaking reach turtle, it will helps your cooking by a lot too, breeding you only need like 10k power and specific pets unlocked to reach the end of w5 area for spices

[bright meteor]

do u have vman

[echo crag]

oh yeah that too

[bright meteor]

lemme check my marrow talent

[nova lynx]

Yes I am Vman

My marrow talent don't do shit 😬

[bright meteor]

how big is your bonus

[echo crag]

i think 800-1000 total lvl is where it start to snowball

[bright meteor]

...

[echo crag]

yeah makes sense with 371 meal level

[bright meteor]

It will get big later and book the talent if you can

[nova lynx]

Yeah I understand. My BB can only make 71 ladles/day (his cooking lvl is also crap). So I haven't had him camping the kitchen.

I just need to hit the snowball lol

[bright meteor]

I don't really use ladles except if I can get more levels instantly with just 1 lol

[nova lynx]

Sneaking reaches turtle...? What's that mean. But good to know on the 10k power. I am pushing w2 pets to get the key peeps to push arena/spices

[bright meteor]

and all my chars are farming lab to lvl 2.1k

[echo crag]

jade emporium turtle critter

the vial for those is

[bright meteor]

show IE or IT

never checked yours I think

[nova lynx]

I might pull them all out at 70'ish to go get Skill Mastery rolling

[nova lynx]

😮 that's crazy

[bright meteor]

is ideal critters farming active 20mins

[echo crag]

yep -_-

[bright meteor]

...

[echo crag]

better than the 2min godbar claim but still just as annoying

currently finishing some of my other pet vial that i... erm... ignored... while getting feathers

[bright meteor]

I'll have to force myself in order to advance trapping

[echo crag]

on the plus side, i did get a lot of shiny pet progress while doing it

[bright meteor]

I'll just have to switch to bm to collect all the traps every 20mins so no constantly farming w5 statues on dk

or just tp

[echo crag]

with the crazy shiny buff from w6, managed to get like 10 shinies to lvl 10 working on another 5, currently lvl 8 with 10d to lvl13

[nova lynx]

Aaah I'm two jade emporium upgrades from the cooking upgrade. That should help me quite a bit too

[clear topaz]

I just unlocked Opera Mask, and it says the bonus is based on per 10 gold bars owned, and I own 1276M, but the bonus is still 0. have I misunderstood something?

[nova lynx]

if you just unlocked it, refresh map

either portal in/out, goto gem shop, etc.

[main kettle]

What should I start with

[nova lynx]

1 golden sprinkler

[main kettle]

Divinity one seems good

[nova lynx]

and 2x div flames

[main kettle]

I can only get one atm

[clear topaz]

thanks. It worked. still its only 9%?

[nova lynx]

That sounds about right?

that's 1b or 1000m. So you have ~9.5% bonus dmg

it's per POWER of 10 gold bars owned.

[hoary oracle]

hi!

[main kettle]

sup man, how’s ur progress

[hoary oracle]

pretty good

got to the map after moltis

[fast wolf]

i got goat yesterday huge

[hoary oracle]

noice

what is the goats bonus?

[fast wolf]

chars in lab are also in divinity

[hoary oracle]

cool

[fast wolf]

huge god

[hoary oracle]

you got some gems? i saw you were looking what to spend in gem shop

[main kettle]

just a 300, I’ll save for splinker

[hoary oracle]

k

keep saving.

[fast wolf]

get sprinkler

[hoary oracle]

i saved up a lot so i could get stuff

guild giftboxes are really good for gems. u in a good guild?

[main kettle]

ofc

[hoary oracle]

k

i remember back when i was in like w3 i started a guild. it actully got kinda big. it was a lot easier back when there were a lot of new players that were not in guilds. nowadays everyones already in a guild

[main kettle]

What lvl

[hoary oracle]

i forgot. mabye like 30-40. i left like a year ago

[main kettle]

Awh dang

[hoary oracle]

hows damage looking for your dk? i just cracked 6 mil

[main kettle]

Dang u going in quick, I’ve reached 1.40m

[hoary oracle]

not bad

u gaining a good amount

[main kettle]

lol am gaining more accuracy then dmg

[hoary oracle]

there both important i guess.

[fast wolf]

dk dmg is low at first it skyrockets

[hoary oracle]

im im at 45k accuracy rn

[main kettle]

yep true, I also need a lot of accuracy so dk can do its job

[main kettle]

49k x)

[hoary oracle]

its even more important to get 100% on dk so you can get that persicion power talent going

[main kettle]

yessir

[hoary oracle]

wait im actully at like 47k accuracy i just forgot to put on my boots. 😂

[main kettle]

never forget em boots man 😔

[hoary oracle]

but my equipment is pretty decent. i already have both emperors opal rings

oh no.... im running out of teleports

i dont feel like walking

[main kettle]

worst thing.

[fast wolf]

?

in w5 thats rly good

[hoary oracle]

ye

[fast wolf]

but tenacity rings may be beter for ur lvl

[hoary oracle]

ive been grinding x20 power

or imean x20 party dungeon

[fast wolf]

12% dmg may be bettter then all sstat

[hoary oracle]

rlly? i tried on them both and emperors opal gave more damage im pretty sure

[split wharf]

hello, just got into world 5 should i remove royal sampler for divinity?

[main kettle]

How the hell u get a lot of 20x

[fast wolf]

i feel tenacity rings may be better than opals since ur w5

12% dmg may be more vluable

[hoary oracle]

nope i tried its 200k less damage

[fast wolf]

oh ok

are u dooted?

[hoary oracle]

no

[fast wolf]

ok good

do u have nobisect god?

[hoary oracle]

yep

[fast wolf]

alr then prob work on dmg and w5 can be ez

[hoary oracle]

i have it equiped rn

[fast wolf]

i think u need a bit more accuracy

[hoary oracle]

k

[fast wolf]

bc the moles in the boss fight require 55k

and dk needs 1.5x that

[hoary oracle]

oh ok

[silver panther]

what was the popup about? I kinda clicked it away without really reading it. Something about the owl moving to world 2?

[bright meteor]

I'm getting my last shiny % to lvl10 then I'll work on meal bonus % or something else like dr

[terse verge]

Lava just teasing what will likely be owl 2.0 for w2

[echo crag]

already did meals, working on artifact chance and sumoning exp. sovereign odds still kicking my but -_-

[silver panther]

Ah ok, that's fine... I haven't even got a single big colourful feather from the first owl anyway 🙂 This game is getting more and more idle-unfriendly - or you have to accept that people are coasting past left and right all the time of course

[chrome cipher]

Just getting back into the game, will be in world 5 when I get off work today, any gem shop things I should be buying? Sitting on like 7k gems. This goes for w6 also, anything I should save for?

[hard grove]

All I need to get luster weapons for my ES is some frost souls and green salts but once I do where do I go from there do I just get troll or what?

[bleak gazelle]

Eh, it's single player so you can ignore comparing to other people except to get a guage of what's possible
For owl, you can spend a few minutes early on in a reset to make sure you're setup then just don't check it till much later for an easy reset. Not the most efficient, but good enough if you do't care that much

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, keep upgrading weapon and hoarding nullo salts

[hard grove]

I have not even gotten to purple salts yet

[frigid swift]

Just dont compare yourselfd to ace. that guy doin some shenanigans lol

[hard grove]

But hey at least I have enough frost souls for anvil tab four

Bc of w5 collo

[bleak gazelle]

Nothing major in W5, one golden sprinkler to unlock it early is good. 1-2 Div sparks to speed things up, but not necessary, and loot slugs to your comfort, early on probably not necessary unless you only play once a week or something

[bleak gazelle]

W6 is more important, can check here #1208108939313684621 message
I would get at least 1 insta grow (it will stack). Land and summoning plots are a good boost of time, but the most important time saver is probably pristine charms for sneaking which are 920 gems each. These are the W6 equivalent of Lab Jewels, you can find them through regular Sneaking but at 1/1000 (average 3k items found) and you can roll duplicates if naturally found. Gemshop can't be dupes

[sharp glacier]

Why does the orange bubble cost more than the purple even though it's like 15 levels lower

[frigid swift]

switch to warrior class for class discount

[sharp glacier]

That's a thing??

[frigid swift]

yes

[teal brook]

is onyx statues something i should work towards (atleast the first few that are easy to farm with DK or wait with it until i am progressing to troll armor and leveled all my chars up?

[sharp glacier]

Applies to all bubbles in their specific cauldron?

[teal brook]

i realized that yesterday the materials and time i have wasted is insane

[frigid swift]

statues is mostly a DR gate. so depends on your DR imo.

[frigid swift]

yup all orange you should get on a warrior, all green archer, etc

[sharp glacier]

Why does it not say that anywhere

[solar drift]

wait with me

only 127 left for cookie rerun

[frigid swift]

↑ that is huge for statues

[teal brook]

i got around 12x DR coco chip and plat cards for Crystal mob chance i can get my crystal chance to about 1/60 with optimizing but no idea if its worth the time

[solar drift]

that sounds good to me

[frigid swift]

should be okay. atleast for the earlier ones

[teal brook]

i will pass on the waiting bit

[sharp glacier]

This discount thing is insane

Holy shit

Missed out on so much alchemy progress

how did it take so long to notice this

[teal brook]

but is it worth the time investment? or whould it be better to work on other stuff? i am in the middle of catching my chars up with gear and lvls and pushing towards the nullo salt block

[sharp glacier]

How do you tell exactly how much of a discount u get?

[teal brook]

1 why does that matter.
2 look at cost with another char and find the diffrence and make it a %

[sharp glacier]

Just wondering

[frigid swift]

its just a flat discount based on char type.

[warm pike]

How much damage is needed to beat nightmare kruk on blood berserker

[teal brook]

rough estimate seems like somewhere around 60% cheaper

[junior dune]

Wanna share your crystal chance contributions? There may be some low hanging fruit

I started my grind with similar stats

[sharp glacier]

Yup I think so too it's insane

[teal brook]

where i can see all the contributors?

[sharp glacier]

Took 2 months into the game to notice wth

[junior dune]

You should have better odds since you have card doublers

[sharp glacier]

Also how do I tell if my damage is enough for base kattlekruk

[teal brook]

these are all the factors right?m (this is a random char without anything soecial on it)

[teal brook]

check pins

[sharp glacier]

Yah I followed this, dosent work

[bleak gazelle]

bubble 2

[sharp glacier]

For me?

[teal brook]

on which char?

[sharp glacier]

Es only

[chrome cipher]

Copy that, I guess I'll just candy through w5 then

[junior dune]

Yep, those are all of them. Chaotic Chizoar card is a bit hidden though

[bleak gazelle]

make sure you have damage for w5 boss

[frigid swift]

Personallly I think 30m even for ES is a bit low. you may not have as much crit or skill points or w.e else to help with it

thats why i hate those minimum dmg things.

[teal brook]

sadly i got 0 of him with my card packs will get it silver since i got the keys for it

[bleak gazelle]

30m is okay with proper talents

[sharp glacier]

Is it something to do with my talents cuz my sheet damage is actually 41m now

[bleak gazelle]

we've seen people do it with 20ish

[sharp glacier]

But the moles still don't die

[chrome cipher]

Sitting at 78-180m or something like that

[bleak gazelle]

just takes...a while

[sharp glacier]

How

[teal brook]

i had 31mil on my DK when i did it it took maybe 15-20min but worked

[chrome cipher]

I was afk at floms for 3 years 🙃

[bleak gazelle]

i feel that

[sharp glacier]

Is it okay if I send my talents sheet here

[chrome cipher]

Logged into a lvl 363 bubonic

[frigid swift]

ES kruk is pretty dependant on timing lightning correclty

[chrome cipher]

And like 10b green mushroom kills on my hunters

[teal brook]

whould you say the bonus is worth it thati what i am thinking about right now

[junior dune]

It is quite big honestly and you won't need many cards either. Just 55 for ruby since Lava messed up

[sharp glacier]

The sheet damage is 41m*

[teal brook]

you can get it ruby without the rubifier thing?

[chrome cipher]

The game is genuinely trying to convince me I could die afking this sucks I have to put health food one 😭

[fiery bronze]

got it to 1 now

[junior dune]

Crystal card chance is always super big since everything is multiplicative and you get better orb scores with more crystals.

[teal brook]

are you killing the moles that go to kattlekruk you had way better stats and higher lvl then me

[junior dune]

Yep when you unlock it in rift

[teal brook]

what rift lvl?

[sharp glacier]

Yah that's the main problem they don't die fast enough

[teal brook]

are you on auto or manual?

[sharp glacier]

I leave the mode on auto

[teal brook]

thats why then go manual and free

[bleak gazelle]

Can you book tab 4 lightning, and then chainbolt and meteor, if you have books.
Then drop points from portal, I'd drop it to like 30 ish or something and throw all your points into lightning then equal for meteor/chainbolt.
Rest look fine, maybe more into tab 3 #10 to boost tab 1 #12

[junior dune]

Used to be the last one so 46 I think

[teal brook]

oh damn im agews away from that lol

[junior dune]

Yeah I suspected that much

[chrome cipher]

Also is there a reason I was farming green mushrooms so hard, I don't remember

[sharp glacier]

Yup I was told by another person to do all this too, just been booking talents since then

[nova lynx]

i think you're at the point of playing rng. this should help. manual makes it much easier to use aoe properly on time to nuke moles. auto to weaken + lightning should be main dmg on kruk tbh.
Your crit % is super low so pump this and it'll help a ton

[sharp glacier]

Okay got it

[nova lynx]

Getting crits to hit is huge when trying to push kruk at your dmg

[sharp glacier]

What should I be doing on the manual mode

[teal brook]

i think il be doing it alot earlier then most but no idea if its even worth to use the time on onyx yet

[sharp glacier]

Like exact strategy

[teal brook]

focus the moles and kill kattlekruk

it aint much of a strategy for kattle

[nova lynx]

mainly just auto + lightning 24/7 on kruk, don't use other CDs. When there are mole waves dump your AOEs (chainbolt, meteors) + lightning them

if you have spare cycles, dumping tornados + the volcano spouts (idk what they're called anymore) on moles too

but fr at your dmg, it's a lot of just getting RNG to stack to tick kruk down

[sharp glacier]

I put all my spare points in this and not it's around 90

[sharp glacier]

No but which attacks

Cuz my attack speed seems too low, by the time I'm done killing one side of the moles the other side reaches kattlekruk

[junior dune]

You can probably optimize it a bit more quite easily but given that you have choco chip and chip doublers I really think it will be

[sharp glacier]

Hmmm okay I'll try again on kruk now then

[junior dune]

Like po box should be easy enough to get when you start crystal farming

[sharp glacier]

Where can I get more keys tho?

[teal brook]

why po box easier to get when i start to farm them?

[sharp glacier]

Cuz I have only 2 which I don't even know how I got in the first place actually

[teal brook]

the minibosses

[nova lynx]

you don't super need mana shield, but the book helps with attack speed.

[teal brook]

use DK orb and you get a good amount of them

[sharp glacier]

Oh yah

[nova lynx]

and moles in front of kruk i think drop the mtoo no?

[sharp glacier]

Nowhere near enough damage for that yet but good to know for the future

[junior dune]

Silver pens drop from crystals

[sharp glacier]

Thanks guys

[teal brook]

yeah most definently i havent optimized at all yet some things are only leveled cause i was aiming for a certain stamp lvl or farming drops and randomly getting the cards etc pushing it down alot will be no problem.

[sharp glacier]

I'll go fix my es and try again

[nova lynx]

tbh i was at your point (around 40m and not everything booked well due to library time) and RNG was letting me dwindle kruk down and then I'd have a bad stroke and kruk would heal a ton... so I cut my losses and just went and grinded more ES levels while working on alch, library books, restoning rings/neck (if you haven't done that with w5 WIS stones), etc.

[teal brook]

what? use food and kill them that aint hard i did them the second i got w5 took some time but none the less

[nova lynx]

Went back soemtime in 50-60m range dmg and it was so much easier. Moles weren't a worry and could leave my ES to auto

[sharp glacier]

I thought you need like 200 kills on orb or somthn to get decent results?

[teal brook]

why is ES most recommended then? if its rng at 30mil when i did my DK it was no rpoblme beating kattle on first try

[teal brook]

if your orb is leveled you can still get good results by using hes abilities

[sharp glacier]

This is probably what I'm going to do if my two attempts fail ig