#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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Hello
hows idleon going for yall. just hit 2M yesterday and im gonna keep gaining(hopefully
It fine, just grinding until new content comes out for now
what world are you in?
At the end of W6
im always a world or 2 behind of the updates focus so im always late to new content
rn im in earliesh mid w5
Thats still good tho, reason why im ahead is since ive been around since the release of W3 lol
Woot woot w3 release club!
Wooooo Yeahh!!!
same here actully. except i probably made more stupid mistakes than yall so im behind
I did a ton of active play which probably helps
Oh alright, still fine though it's nice to have new things to explore lol, just working on increasing all my stats
ye same here i need to grind more damage for kruk when im there.
Not doing too much active play rn due to playing helldivers 2 lol but im usually leaving bubo grinding
ive gained a good bit thanks to some sailing artifacts. man some of those artifacts really give good bonus
oh yeah those artifacts are super useful
ive gained over 50% total damage from them and that will probably grow a lot
sometime i should look up all the artificats
can u reroll the kattle obol to +1 on both afk gain (misc) and +1 on total damage (misc)
for a lot of the new skills in w5 and some of of W4 ive been going based on self knowladge and guidence to know what to do
which isnt always a good idea but its worked okay.
Yeah personally I don't search anything up better for me to just go with whatever I find
No idea, ill try rerolling one a couple times and see
normally i can rely on some genuises in the chat to help me ๐
Nope it's either one or the other it seems
Yeah they know alot about efficiency, though personally it is too much effort to go for efficiency for me
nice
ye
man i forgot what my crit damage and rate is but i seem to be getting a lot of high crits
you got the mega crit talent right?
not yet actully. i try to get it but i cant get lv 100 on the talent book before that one
thats probably bad. im behind in a lot of ways
alright, it isn't too important if you do afk more than active, but it is useful to have anyways
ye normally when im grinding im either afk or candying. im too impatient to just wait for the kills and do something else
yeah later you can leave your bubo active on certain stages to increase your alchemy level and liquid cauldrons
yeah thats fine too, still haven't gotten pirate to the 1m threshhold on their skill for the achievemnt but feel like thats too much of a grind for now, also farming lucky lads to craft the luckier lad with bubo rn
Lul, not me over here stopping for 2 years before world 3 even came out 
Dam 2 years? ive stopped for a max of 6 months or so lol
I also took a ~4-5 month break after the fall event last year
aperantly one of my friends was dormantly for like a year or 2 in idleon. he came back and saw he was mining copper for 2 years afk. he had gained a little under 50 levels
max break i have took is probably like 3 or 4 months.
I never took a break after joining back when w4 existed
survive till 111 https://i.imgur.com/rPCxS5C.png
does cloud order matter in sailing?
the earlier clouds have a lower distance to get to them
so the best way is just to go in numerical order?
pretty much yea
More or less
what prayer is on wave 111?
rucksack?
- carry capacity - afk gain
k
would be useful in active situations along with crafting items that need a lot of recouurces
its mainly for stamps
oh ok
Where can I get this?
doot

A lot of places
Most w3 mobs and later
call me crazy but I think sheepie is better than doot when you think about it
you can have multi kill bubble with classs xp bubble just to name a few
and call me bob
Wait
now that i think about it you can equip 3 bubbles and one divinity
3 bubbles and can swap them whenever
There are definitely some bubbles that are super strong, but Doot provides QoL that you normally don't have with divines
also the amount of afk gains you get from doot is stupid
yeah I forgot you can only swap them twice a week
4x kills at all times with 8x sample
and effiency
never have to plan samples around when you can swap gods
or redo them when you forget
same thing with bubbles, I guess, but you can swap from quick ref
not having doot would hurt less if we weren't limited to 2 unlinks
man I just want doot
yeah lava should do that
to make it more fair
I spent 50 dollars on this game
Im not spending double that on doot
Why make it more balance when there is suckers like me who will pay for it?
Though I did try to not pay for it for quite a long time
the only thing you need to spend money on in this game is autoloot
๐คท I support what I enjoy, i also donate to all of the 3rd party sites lol
need
new companion rotation please, let me buy lava a boat
so whats the owl all about?
Owl let you know when itโs out
have yall figured out who i am? in terms of my older username?(i changed my username for fun to see if people could find out who i was)
Considering your @ is still the old one and I didn't even know you. On that note
Owl speculation by what lava posted is a boost similar to party dungeons.
you wanna know?
A perma upgradeable thing based on found feathers
idlenoob. used to be idlemaster before that but i got roasted because of how bad i was at idleon so i changed it
Bold of you to assume that I care who you are.
^^^
Ayo. I just hit W5 and the divinity grind is killing me. No lab access feels like I am just spinning my wheels. I know that unlocking the 2nd god is the goal but I am getting bad RNG. Would it be a good idea to partition some characters into lab while others sit on divinity ot unlock the god there at a slower pace? Or am I just on day 3 of waiting?
What do you need the lab bonuses for if everyone's on the altar ๐
Because early on you don't get lab progress on Divinity?
Yeah, that's fine. Once you unlock goat your people will be living in lab anyway, especially on the path to 1400/2100 lab levels
The more people you throw at divinity now means more points means faster god rolls
You can try splitting them if you want but I think you're just increasing the amount of time to get to goat so that you can get double gains on people
See that's what I'm asking. "Once you unlock X" seems fine and I understand it, but I'm getting bad RNG and 5/7 of my characters are screwing around on a table and I'm not getting a lot out of it. Without brightside my portal pushing is pretty gimped, my salts are slowed, my prints suck, etc.
So sure I'm getting divinity progress(debatably, as far as a dice will let me) but I can't really do anything else.
Hiya
Been waiting for some time for the collider to get the first atom
Item already shows as 15M in the chest
Anyone knows how close the game rounds to millions?
I'll try this next I think
its called sleep grind for a reason xd
better put all to div, take the L
do roll for 100% if. u can
You're also getting div exp which doesn't go away. Higher div levels unlock new styles which are typically better (faster, more xp/points), and also give you high effect from the god minor links that you're linked to. So, again, if you think splitting people in half is best, go ahead and do that, your game, after all 
Is your atom collider turned on and set to 15m threshold? If so, change maps and it should process
Mhm to both
you can always pull out a million into separate stacks to see how close you are
I can't pull a mil ๐
can you pull 500k?
Just about 100k
I don't even want to talk about trapping ๐
I also generate quite a little amount per hour so wanted to see how far i am
dont even think of atom if u cant print 1m
It's probably not 15m yet, I'm assuming the game rounded it there
Just don't know how much is missing
its just a waste of everything
I mean I'd like to start lol
The resources are just sitting there and slowly growing anyways
One atom doesn't do anything in enough time?
It unlocks the first thing in the collider so I thought it'd get the gears going until I can get more
lv1 hydrogen is like -2% not worth much
collider is only worth it once you start getting past 1b resource stacks and it converst automatically
better put ur focus to min-maxing skillings
use wiki for that
I've been away for like 3 months so got some levels but it feels so hard to sit and min max everything lol
min-max we all hate it but we need all that we can get
Yeah
Still at 700m oak ๐
Got so much to do
Carry caps
Armor to max
Focus on bubbles
I've been away for so long, I remember this being some brag but forgot where it started lol
I added 100k stacks to a 10m pile and it didn't change to 11m until it was exactly there. If i took away 1 from the stack it went back to 10m. So no rounding
Imagine making a to do list
Ty โค๏ธ
I did make a list
@empty oracle look at mine
It's been sitting on my desk for days ๐
Weeks even
Forgot it existed
The only list Iโve ever made, was a guide
Noice
On what every resource did in the game
And how to get each and every one effectively 
Too much to do omg ๐ญ
Never used it tho lol
That's idleon for you
You think something is important and in 2 days the focus changes
Important thing becomes an idle grind and you start looking into a whole new kind of gameplay
Itโs just thereโs so much in the guide I made, I have to separate it damn near, and those little partsโฆ are everywhere
and then you have to update it
Oof
Yeah haha
Lava moves a number and everything you've written about is out of date
That's kind of my pickle with the updates
I guess each to their own but I like having my builds persist indefinitely
When there's build changing updates I don't enjoy having to do everything all over again ๐
It's a fun game
Just really tiring for an idle game lol
Thankfully he doesn't tend to shake up old things that often
He might rework new things that get introduced and maybe fix some bugs for old stuff, but primarily just makes new, more ridiculous systems
Bruh there is a spider on my bed
tuck it in
charge it rent
tell it to play for you while you sleep
rko it
teach it to hourly click
Which mobs should i farm for cranium cooking
tremor wurms > citringes > flombeiges > bloques. if you can't 1 shot one with poison, go to next one
Thank you!
Soon lab 1.6k
I m in w5 and i sample 85 bloaches that s bad isnโt it
very bad
How are your tackles and lures? Depth is very important for bloach samples
hello
Fishing food is also real good
guesses on what wave I'll reach?
130?
90 right now I'll see
114
Be mindful of the party starter range. It may be wise to put one on the bottom platform, especially if you don't usually buy as many towers as the guides do
why bottom
Because usually you put them on the top platform, but with towers in the 60s the later party starters won't be able to reach the furthest towers from up there
And you won't quite fill up the bottom if you don't usually build all the towers in the guide so it doesn't matter if you take up a spot on the bottom
I got enough range
Nice! What are your tower lvls?
Yeah, I got to 130 while messing up as well
I just got this quest...and I'm literally wearing the scarf, so not sure why it's 0/1?
maybe you need to put it on, if you already have it it doesn't count
yu mean...craft it again?
oh yeah, tried that, left map too...hmm
if it didn't work, maybe taking it off, rejecting quest, accepting quest again and putting it on works
Do I really want to resample?
took me like 10 months
to get chemical plant
i got a 2.8m nugget before i got it man
that's rough
but do you have doot tho
110 rn it's just gonna take so much time
120 is the hard round as usual. After that 130 is free
I'll pass u
take it off and put it back on maybe? remember u have to get the cape as a drop u can't just equip it
starting to get nuggets close to my current 
better not give me some shit 1% increase
The higher your nuggets get the bigger the risk is. You might get something huge, but it also gets more likely to get a tiny increase
I demand at least a 3% CoL adjustment 
wave 120...
is it more of a priority to push through W5? or to unlock the Vman? i can get the million with about 5 hours of active ES, or I can send my ES to push W5 and gain levels
In gaming, does the box costing 3m actually contain nothing?
There's more than just 1m deathnote for unlocking vman, if you haven't started on mman gmush kills, i'd probably just throw ES to pushing W5
you can also throw other people at deathnote instead
these are the only two that actually contain nothing
Then why are they even there
future expansion? same as the thing that requires lvl 999
Ah a placeholder
most likely will just be forgotten 
Should i leave chars in divinity even after i get bear?
Though feel free to rotate 1-2 out to do other things
You still have plenty of gods to unlock and div levels to gain
Refer to ๐ for what else you'll want to do
Alr thank you!
Oh, i finally unlocked dungeon drops last run 
oh i should start doing that too xD and pearl drops too
can
No way to increase Divinity AFK gains right? sitting at 100%
someone tell me why i do this to myself
Correct, you can increase experience multi and point gain, but afk % will always be 100
You can definitely hourly click with 2x.
187m in 2 slots doubled by lab gives almost 800m and you should have enough printer buffs to take it the last bit I think
yeah, DK bonus is at 1.2x and i've got eldritch obol
pretty much all those gains were 6x except this, lul
I gotta set up some more good hourly clicks and get to a point where I can use the artifact efficiently
My plan is to use my 6x ES to print atoms and dedicate everything else to hourly clicks
But that will probably be like a month away
I've turned billions of godshard ore into bars at this point. It takes a lot
i didn't even have my right keychain on. had a 2% instead of 6%, oops
It's 100%, isn't it?
i would call that 1000% gains?
or like 900%? idk what the "correct" terminology is
so 10x it is
I think we might be referring to different things. I was thinking of the lab and god doubling when I said 2x and 6x
Oh i know that, I was refering to my actual print gains
All the previous ones were about 6x
Anyone knows what tab 4 skills on dk affect passive fighting
This might help you #midgame-chat-w3๐งw4๐ฎ message
It's also in the pins
That post is real old though and I don't know much about how talents work with afk fighting
not bad, not bad
i need to go back and see which bugs i actually need though
w5/6 and equinox for vial 
and w6 to get to atom range
realized this 2nd SB doesn't have w6 mats unlocked, oops
only one map away from ladybugs, so I can probably let him afk there while I do others 
good thing i went backwards
Hello for the ships making them level 300 where do I start?
Wdym, start with whichever boat is highest on work on the mats you need for it?
You've probably got 1-2 boats which are clearly higher than the others
Most likely upgraded when you were going for fury or one of the last 3 islands, so you probably had a bunch of mats to upgrade boats that used those
I got the achievement by selling a bunch of rare last island materials and then upgrading the first boat
I tried upgrading last boat it takes days to 1 up
For the 300 upgrade first ship cause sell items for gold
Quick question, assuming a player knows every single thing to do as efficiently as possible, what's the earliest time someone could unlock W5 from a fresh profile? Curious
Interesting sell materials
but my damage gains from artifact 
im on round 201 in pet battle should i stop or keep ?
keep going for science 
You donโt gain anything for going further
Other than the science
Push it for sheets and giggles
Unless it going to take a long time
I usually just turn off auto and let it end naturally
Maybe someone else can confirm it works if you exit
i hit exit on mine and it recorded
Yeah exiting works
caveat i also checked on IT beforehand
๐
pog !
at the rate i'm going, i'm really gonna have to break this up into two days, smh
With doot, these dont just stack together right, to where you would have arctis putting them in lab and therefore also counting in divinity
With doot it works regularly, you have to be physically in lab to gain lab gains (and additional div gains via goat)
ah ok ty
You just get the bonus of never losing lab connection when you decide to walk out 
however once u take the cahrs out of lab the nodes stay connected just no exp or div gain, so you wanna swap to tranqi divinity style
How many golden grilled cheese nomwich do you have just curious as to what the % is at your stage
ohh i didnt even read what that was giving you lmao damn
So the beanstalk gives you the bonuses of the golden food that you give it aka 10k and then also increases it?
It says all sources, so I guess it adds all your account wide golden food bonuses like stamps, bribes, achievements, meal, star sign, not sure if I actually have enough for 248% though, so maybe it adds something to that too?
It gives you the bonus of a 10k stack to all your characters and that bonus will add additively with golden food in your inventory, making it better than if you had the 10k+inventory only
damn so thats a really nice bonus to get
mhmm
w5 ones are super easy to get since you'll probably CC and statue farm there for a bit
Just as importantly it is very satisfying to see your beanstalk get more full
yeah dropping my last stack of cake felt so good on it
so smol
but i'll take it
bleh, only got 3 people finished 
i'm so slow at sampling
well, got +1 slab
why does it have so much defence 
Ready for your 11th character
prob a week or less lmao
depends on how much u whale
It would be a bit fun to try it. I'm sure it could go really quite fast with liberal candy use and lots of gems
I should always choose the black sailing captain right ? No matter the stats
Almost certainly. You might not want to replace a captain with 500% more loot value than the ender captain will get, but even then it is debatable and depend on how it actually is calculated
If you are still going for artifacts I would say always get ender captains with no asterisk
Ok, I would replace the ender captain after I get all sovereign aritifact. Since my lowest captain is already 700%
The assumption here is that the buff works as if it gave +25% loot value to all captains. Since there are 20 captains that would mean +500% total loot value. If the captain you are replacing can beat that you probably will get less loot with the ender
I'm not certain that is how it works, but it seems reasonable and the effect size seems to be about the right size
upgraded my blood marrow from 161 to 225 and gained like 220m% cooking speed, holy fuck
I think I'm in the QQQ range currently. Exponentials get insane fast
Yea my first kitchen just hit QQQ
Almost 1.9k meal levels and havent started the last w5 area yet
hmmm
how do you check your raw kph (without bubbles or prayers or w/e)
Active you can use guild tasks.
lab node disconnected
Dividing by your MK and kill per kill is the way in theory, but I know I had some issue when trying to account for kill per kill from the bubble and talents
If you get 1M kph with the lab doubler and 1000% MK you would get at most 50,000 raw kph, but it should really be lower because of kill per kill
hm ok. still trying to figure out the drop calc and figure i need it accurate so that i don't waste 3 months to get the t5 knuckles
lv220 just got a few lvs already doubled
I would say that it probably isn't worth getting for a long time, I would say at least like 25 dr but more doesn't hurt. You don't do much combat on vman anyway and the respawn for the kruk fists are largely drowned out by bossing vain in speedrun. You will get damage plenty or other ways anywat
best character to use if i want too time candy for a stamp?
vman
these are the suggma knucks? bc if so i'll move ppl around but i'm kind of at a loss of what to do bc starfire bars take so long to make without bs afking
why is dat?
vman has +dr
and MK wont be important aslong as i 1hit them?
oh mob stamp idk, i candied on vman on all skilling dropped ones
lol 2 lucky lads and still havent gotten the w3 splicer recipe
yeah on skilling i see but no idea on mobs
Suggma is the ones with the bad recipe. They give 10% damage and 10% respawn, which is a terrible upgrade from diabolical which has the starfire in the recipe. Therefore almost everyone upgrades to the next tier which is the kruk gloves in the image. The recipe should be easy enough. If you struggle with starfire bars I have bad news about godshard and like all the W6 recipes. Be sure to check out this guide from the W6 pins to improve bar production though #1208108939313684621 message
you dont need the suggma glove to upgrade to kruk? bc if so i've been wasting so much time lol. and yeah i've heardabout starfire+ and i've resigned to doing everything i can short of 2m afks
If you are struggling with w3 splicer recipe it isn't time to go for the suggma recipe
oh nvm, i afk'd for 2 m and got it. idk why it took so long active -_-;
Sadly you do. Molten core is the suggma gloves
The archer smelting talent doesn't account for mk when active for some reason. It makes it almost useless active
even less reason to use archers active. that w4 achievement is going to stay dark lol
i hate molten no drops
u seen this?
Thank you
skilled dimwit affects divinity exp gain ?
No
tyy
yoo world 5 finally
what is the best upgrade?
do boats have a max lv?
u need them all
u can take a week break from the game to div grind 
there is pins here for early w5
everything from lab straight into divinity i guess
I feel like my gaming bit rate has stagnated pretty hard after reaching the trillions, any idea what I may be doing wrong?
its the artifacts
Hmm but the artifacts that give bit multi are pretty far for now...
I'm only around the snowman island so far
i got this artifact from my first boat expidition. Isnt it the same as the lab bonus?
The lab bonus also allows you to.level them up from any map
oh
As long as they're in home town*
at this point lab is level from any map within that world, artifact is bonus on all maps
i see
what do i do wish chem plants?
where can i find the slab bonusses
Is there a list where I can see all the sources of bit multi?
Usually artifacts
so slab boosts artifacts bonusses?
Yes
guess i have to do slab now
You should use the auto review tool
Shows all the slab stacks you may have missed
wtf i just got casually 300% coins?
Yup that was a huge boost to me too
thats grazy
Trust me the coin costs are also going to be crazy
nice
understandable with these boosts
Can't recommend this enough though
Helped me out a ton
where?
i hate this game
You need to upload your profile to idleon efficiency first tho*
i alr did that
Then it's super simple just follow the steps listed in the site
Gaming Breakpoints (SPEED)
Some different breakpoints for 5 sec Gaming I've gotten so far (from others):
Keep in mind, this doesnt show how many upgrades into that "timer" they are at.
Once you reach 5 sec gaming, speed becomes "irrelevant" and you want to push anything for more bits, to get the 90Q red unlock.
Vid of 5 second gaming: โ questions-w6๐ธโ
0.9min with 5.42x Evo chance from W6 farming
1.2min with 6.21x Evo
1.4min with 7.57x Evo
1.7min with 9.05x Evo
1.8min with 8.36x Evo
Now that I am 1.7 Min with 8.68x evo, what am I expecting from gaming?
can't seem to be able to do the spam harvest as they don't seem to spawn fast enough
oh nvm somehow it seems like I need higher evo with 1.7 than 1.8
lets be honest its 3
unless your sort of lucky and you get the first 2 in 3 days.
Is: forager, miasma, borger, converter still the meta for spice farming? I get a (way) higher speed with forager, miasma, borger and flasy (the rabbit)
how does this math work? 50% not to reset trekking progress, but does that equal 50% speed? And isn't that than just the same as flashy which also gives 50% extra foraging power?
Every spice takes longer to collect than the last, so 50% speed is worth way less. You can also not reset unlimited times in a row.
In the same duration, Flashy might increase from 200 to 250 spices, whereas a single Converter proc is +200, and could be more. This only gets more exaggerated as you get higher counts. That extra speed might only be worth 40, 30, 20, 10, etc. extra spices when you're collecting 300 or 800 at a time
Flashy should only be used on the very bottom spices where rate for even a single spice sucks.
Hello, I have a question regarding gaming growth cycle. In the endgame chat, some players say that doing gaming in the w5 town in better perf wise, whereas for me, in the w5 town i have 1 new plant every 2-3 second and in any monster map, I have all plants in 4-5 seconds. What am I missing?
nothing
there must be a reason no?
There is a much, much higher speed threshold where w5 town will spawn a full board every 1 second while other maps would be every 5 seconds
got it thanks, I guess I'm just too slow for now
Same lol. I don't have exact numbers to offer, but 0.8 min is too slow for me
Probably down closer to 0.3 min
is this still the case? (sorry for necro ping)
Is there any shiny pet tier list?
Scoli's autoreview has a section for shinies (and speed bonuses now, too!)
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203
https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/
Still the case usually. Vman now has access to 250 Enhancement Eclipse which lets their Lucky Charm talent also provide Skill EXP. Everyone else though, still no skill exp from LUK
Is DK good for w5? If so should I afk or active Beacuz the afk gains are horrible
brother DK is the secret to w5
active play too
im p sure for orb kills, exp rate, and drops
am still at the second map so am not seeing the best from him
make sure to boost your Dk accuracy
I do itโs 27k when used all acc buffs
What why? I just made them cuz I they were strongly recommended
for skilling yes
but for example this gives you way more bang for your buck
and can be gotten fairly quickly from dungeon shop
only get 1 and save for opals after
I do have it but I was strongly recommend this, weird but Iโll change em
strongly recommended is always based on your progress. in w3? yeah probably best rings you'll have. in w5? not still the case
Yeah, accuracy is low so you're missing damage from your refinery talent. Mostly just need levels
oh lul, imagine if i scrolled down all the way
happens to the best of us
Just realized the accuracy for w5 mobs changes in groups instead of individually
at least your only late by like 5min
true, i was still relevant, just repeated what you said
had time i did similar but with a convo for hours ago XD
This?
yeah... then in w6 it goes back to changing by map
I'd probably just keep smacking them to gain some levels 
Suggmas may give more xp because they have lower hp and you can kill more 
mkay
Map is much better for DK too with just two levels
Try that, get some levels, spend some talent points, get a bit more accuracy than push forward 
can also give him the +crystal card if he can manage to kill them safely and it will level up faster too
Oh yeah would u happen to have the class talent guide sheet?
Thanks
If you think you can drop 1-2 cards, then equipping either or both of these cards will greatly increase your xp gain
okay sure!
Is the quality of cogs you get dependant on the level of the character producing them?
dependent on your best character's max construction level
you'll see people pull their DKs off the board to make ulti cogs -> but this is just cause they are the fastest since they'll have highest production speed. doesn't mean you must have dks in the ulti slots when you are just making them normally
You mean Construction level?
this is my main, am i that undergeared? lmao
i was trying to unlock evergreen for 2 weeks and got chemical on second try on 0,4%
should i keep chemical to it 4 evolution then use it?
this is my build that's let me comfortably cruise through the w5 enemies, this was roughly the same 100 levels ago (130). I'm not too sure what the standard for w5 is, but id look into getting at least lustre level gear
That's a lot of luck! It took me 3 months to get evergreen I think...
I have chars that are all 'green' at level 450 in w6 ๐
i just reached w5 like 5 hours ago, i am not even close to getting full void gear with my materials so ye
Just gave this one a better weapon yesterday:
And he's at skydoggie in W6
still using accuracy ring? isnt that like early early game?
This is my 9th char, I don't give him much attention
fair enough
brother void armor takes w3 resources no?
And he's my 2nd blood berserker so he gets the leftovers. First blood berserker (roughly the same level) is in divine outfit with 2x emperors opal
why is this world 5 shop stamp sooo mcuh cheaper then the world 4 ones, :/
ye but i reached w4 a week ago, then everyone was in lab and then i reached w5 just now and everyone is in divinity
I've been debating on trying for the 1b sample cloud for equinox. My sample multiplier from artifact is currently at 3.40x. But I keep putting it off because I'm afraid the sample is going to be like 980m instead of 1b and it'll reset that artifact bonus, haha.
lul, true. i just gave up on artifact bonus and worked on all the other skill eff/afk bonuses
resampled on my 3 last characters last night and got 6-10x gains
need to redo the first page now
best to get it to 5th rank (i guess technically evo 4) so that it gives you 25 hours and resets logs
If you end up getting void, the recommended upgrade path is Chizoar (at least Head/Chest) since it gives damage. Lustre and Diabolical after it only give defence% which is typically unnecessary. You'll stil want to craft a set of each at least once for Slab though
Beyond Void/Chiz though, everything after starts from Troll armor
What is the best way to farm does strength statues for monolith? It is taking forever to get those an I already have like 15k lumber statues
can anyone make a ss from the world 5 miniboss card?
ty let me screenshot that
Check 6th ๐ Beans at W1 is typically best, with a DK with chocolatey chip and crystal spawn setup
10+ DR minimum too
ty
mine finally upgraded
got the beanie recipe too
Thnx! Is there anyway to get the choco chip without being lucky?
next october
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i gambled 2 times and got a multikill chip and a lab chip :/
honestly, not bad. middle of the pack, there are definitely worse things you could have gotten 
guess so ye but i needed that choco chip
lab chip will be quite useful for a while
i wont ssay what my first 2 gamble gave me cuz...
ye dont
i gambled 3 chocos in a row after setting up to purchase one and then didn't login for a week smh
2 is kind of QOL, 3 is just overkill imo
at least you dont need to move them around anymore XD
would be nice qol
chips arent to hard to swap, i dont mind
not all complext since its only 7 to sawp, but still faster than unequip and requip
looks like i'll be able to finish this in 10 hours
afk is for ladles, mostly, balloons and pearls are better for levels 
what is the ladel chance?
based on your efficiency and afk gains. PO Box also gives you a chance for 2x
you typically don't afk for ladles for quite a while though. need to complete your chows on BB and work on other things
i get 12 a day, aint no way i am wasting time on cooking
or i put every char on cooking for a year, deff worth it
yeah it goes a lot higher later on
I went afk for about 400 days when w4 first came out. I left all my chars on cooking and came back to 50k ladles. Not bad considering that I had low efficiency and levels before leaving the game for so long.
Those ladles have certainly boosted my meals greatly.
I have the void walker talent for cooking at 0.66 percent and it is only giving me a 1% boost total even though I have 74 meals levels
Is there something Iโm missing
Meal levels 
get goat and its time for lab
It'll start taking off once you get to around 500 i think
not again๐ญ
Shouldnโt it still give me some kind of boost or is it like hard capped until I get a lot of meal levels
800-1000 is where it goes alot higher, i think 500 might be like 10%-25%. i dont recall how to calculate that again
Aight thanks
the math doesn't work quite how it explains it in the talent. if you search through discord you can probably find plent of discussion
best way to get this?(am two maps into w5)
Mostly events, some quests, and Killroy, though I don't recommend spending skulls on that
what to use in w5 pushing,afk
Easiest to push through afk is BB, but that typically has the hardest time with the boss
ES/DK or SB should be good
I believe 
fish were THANKFULLY removed
how can i complete my treasure hunt :(
there was an announcement about it
so i cant anymore or what
it's simply requires you to enter the world 2 colosseum
no need to fish
Worth using over Fistcuff in Wurm CC? ๐ค
No
are 50% offerings worth saving up for in divinity, or should I keep rolling for better odds?
No respawn rate... I dun like it ๐ฆ I was doing Eclipse Skull grind
always 100%
quit gambling
1% rolled a God Rank, imagine. 
this comment was fact checked by real gamblers and we have determined itโs misinformation
black always because black = no light and only in darkness will winning shine brightest 
ngl this quote goes hard
lol the 1% gave me mantis
told u
does mantis count for Chow?
/sadface
that's still massive gains
Is lustre gear worth it?
Perhaps, but it's not 1 billion for equinox. And that was my goal with it.
Oh well
yeah but those extra atoms will help u get even higher
Or should I just skip it and stick with dementia until I can get troll
I made one set for slab
I made dementia for everyone and upgraded to void then chizo when i had the spare materials and salts witout really grinding for it
Then gave it to my bm all my others are on chiz and void
Some still dementia though since I keep running out off water lol
water is a pain can only buy so much daily and cant farm it like distilled water
gotta upgrade him to diabolical sometime 
Yeah that's what I'm planning since I don't really use him. Other than being in lab he's just printing refinery mats
My vman is for monster mat bubbles like name I guess
does gold relic reset if anyone does a sample, or does it track per character, or per sample?
Yah but I'll just do that super endgame ig
I think I'm going to do that for my main pusher but then should I leave everyone else at dementia then?
Until troll*
i rushed chizpo on my pusher and now i upgrade the other ones gradually when it does not affect my materials
Hmm okay thanks for the help
ofc
Lustre is pretty cheap though
green salts are way too hard toi get early on
takes soo long better things to use it on then armor at that point
Ye probably
Yup
Plus I can't farm out that many monster drops either
As my es dosent do enough damage to get that much
And I think by the time I'm doing that much damage I should be able to get troll gear anyway
2nd magma wep crafted wheee
What level of BB would you recommend to take on base Kattlekruk? With void armor or equivalent.
level is mostly irrelevant. You'll need about 80m damage to be comfortable, might be able to pull it off with 50-60m
You can check ๐ for an infographic on recommended damage for classes. There's also a pin that shows VMan doing nightmare kattle, the strategy for that is similar to what you'll do with BB if your damage is a bit low
Check what sorry?
Check the pushpins in this channel. If you're on desktop should just be right up at the top
If you're on mobile, tap the channel name then Pins. Should be the second ๐
my BM does 85m i might push w5 with it
bruh how do i get 180 orb score in rift 8
i can one shot the enmies
fair enough, its active respawn talent is...rough though, so you could try pushing afk with if while being active on something else, too
for orb, you'll probably need more move speed and higher orb talent levels
or more points in boomerang/statue
what's your movespeed at, too?
no, cape is just rng
129
can ez increase just equip pots and lab chip
I would do that and try again 
well, either more movespeed or just more talent levels, not just in orb but boomerang and statue, too
what do yall target for snail rolls
hello
have you been doing slower bonuses like shaquracy and the bonus from flurbo?
holy shit that talent is broken
struggling with getting enough of the red fish
try to get samples up through several ways
try to get a vman then you can get much higher levels of basic stat talents
too hard at this point, dont have the nessecery items to craft the better vman weapon
ah right
rather poor ;-;
uninflated gloves are pretty easy and it is quite enough for me tho
and just make sure you do the dungeon hour when you can that can give you a lot of flurbos. also secondary stat is important sample the recource you need for your secondary stat. for example you would want to get copper ore for the 1st bubble of the green cauldron
only 15
ah yeah good point! totally forgot the 1st bubble
you should sample it
in the next map, total left spot
also change your fishing equipment
there you can change your fishing items
and also why are you using a dk for fishing
ooh
there are some specific for specific fishes
use a bb
and also the spots, and yes, use a BB
this is what i use
!fishingchart
use a bb they are specialised in fishing
!fishchart
yeah should probably do that
@dry bough it's a bit outdated but still useful
ah yeah will follow that!
holy shit just listening to all of yalls advice has upped my accuracy by 4k
dk is shit at fishing
yeah i figured
but my bb is cooking
and well uhm
he's my mining slave
nice! just keep saving up recources increasing bubbles and getting bonuses to sampling through stamps, and construction! after a while you should have enough to 100% most or all of w5
good point i totally forgot stamps!
gosh i feel so dumb
theres a lot of bonuses to accuracy that are hard to notice somtimes
!ie
https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger
why u use bb for mining? xD
yeah i just found out
dk = mining
bb = fishing for sampling then cooking
made the chars before world 4
or world 3 actually
yes but after you reach w4
i didnt have a choice
i left these two alone for 4 years just mining and fishing
ohh got it haha
that explains alot. getting back into the game after a long time can be confusing
yeah lava really updates frequently.
thats a good thing haha
some games take forever to get the slightest updates
also just so you know you need 39k accuracy to get to the last map but kattlekruk for some reason only needs 3.75 k accuracy so dont worry about him in terms of accuracy
ah thats sweet!
39k suddenly seems reachable after all these tips
yeah when you know the bonuses then accuracy is really easy to get a lot of
everyone has things to work on. you need accuracy. rn i need damage im grinding to get more.
i need a lot for kruk
ah how much dmg are you currently at?
only 2.2 mil at max
how can I boost DK dmg since I just started using him to push w5
i need this much
pushing with DK?
ye
im trying to do the same thing. one thing that has helped it some of the artifiacts. some can really boost your damage
i dont know how far you are in sailing but that helped for me
uh yeah i think
like which ones
Still 1st island
I just started w5 and my main was BB that pushes w4 so heโs the highest lvl and my best but am switching to DK for w5 so it will take me so long wouldnโt it
Which island is the hippote
the third
definintly work on it then. in island one theres ruble cube in island and in island 3 theres fun hippotae ruble cube is good but i see you have that. the one in island 3 in hippote is really good
okay Iโll try pushing the 3rd island
6% increase every power of 10 for construction speed. so hopefully if youve been working at least some at construction you should have at least like a 24% increase
yeah i think. also has some good active attack talents.
yeah giant boomerang is also good it can hit a lot of enemies at once
havent unlocked dk myself yet
really?
so havent gotten the chance to test it yet
i shouldnt be talking either cause ive only unlocked like 3 or 4 of the elite classes
i have some pretty big level gaps too
i really mained a lot in world 2-4 so i have some pretty big level gaps
whats the meta for gaming mutations? im got 5/8 on the 6th plant and i swear ive done like over 50 attempts at 5-8% all fails
This is what am working on with dk rn
yeah i honestly ONLY played on bubo, the other ones i accidentally left on some enemy for about 4-5 years
thats really low.
The accuracy? If so itโs 27k rn
thats INSANELY low
how did you get to that map with only 480k damage
i had 1 mil and i was on the third map
eh itโs not that hard
you need to stop take a break and gain at least 1 mil damage before you go any further and definintly dont go doing kruk with anything close to that also sorry im freaking out im just allerigic to low damage so i kinda hate myself
man i need to take a breath
can you show me your ie
the accuracy is fine
Okay hold on a second
please pick ur keys up
and redeem ur pachinko balls
do ur minibosses aswell(this is a massive one)
get ur vials up
try to get them all atleast at lvl 4
I let em gather up and do at once
world 5 minibosses are already at max
yeh I didnโt reach the map for w5 miniboss
this map is beyond that
Yeah not yet but only 23k to go
get ur traps setup, this is MAYOR
all of your accounts should have traps placed at all times
first things first you need to start sacrificing some of your acc for damage. you can replace 1 or 2 of the cards with damage cards. also start putting your post office boxes into damage. alchemy is not looking good. try to get unlock more bubbles if you can with bubo/shaman skill bubble breakthrough
not all your acc you still need it but you need more damage
yeah first divinty give a lot of acc and defense so you dont have to worry as much about accuracy
his divine knight is level 86?
you need to level that up
I did
yeah thats definitely a game changer
idk why it isnโt shown
you know how to update it right?
Yea
i dont
go do that then things might look a lot different
that is an absolute game changer
I think thereโs something wrong, it doesnโt let me and hit me with an error
what hell no, yeah def outdated
whats the error say?
it worked it say 6/5/2024
alright good
wierd not for me
so here ima list some things you need to do so you can remember this: work on alchemy get and use some damage cards. put some post office boxes into damage. use up your keys and miniboss uses. get traps set up. get tools(and good ones) keep working on divinity. do more sailing. and i think thats it. sometime you can copy this down or something and check these off.
thats weird
yeah Iโll try my best with that, thanks
is the items for the mutton quest a base drop or a rare drop? if so i ES or DK better?
but its good that levels are looking better. im geussing that it was 86 before you started doing w5 but now its gone up to 116 so thats good
but just take it easy. my ie isnt probably that good either. we all know our ies are really bad and we could be doing more.
can i see it?
uh ok
yep Iโll try taking my time in w5 by upgrading and getting my account to good
https://gual.idleonefficiency.com fyi my pusher is named yogag
nice alchemy dude
thx
what does green stack an item mean?
you have 10mil of an item in chest i think
except for the vials
when youve done that it should be green
i always forget about those
cooking is INSANE
insanly bad or good?
insanely good
k
This gives me pain
oof I need to greenstack 20 items for equinox
fk that for now Iguessz
the foraging in the nest is very bad though
gl with that i geussโ ๏ธ
try making an straight line out of boa's
k
20gstack should be easy enough with just skilling
depends at what point in game but after Vman and some levelling yes its easy but takes a few days to get all 20
https://www.idleonefficiency.com/ why does my dk suck so bad 
njeed to send your profile not the link to idle efficiency
just buy from the shops
https://nils_peder.idleonefficiency.com need this
k i just did that
sorry
I didnt know there was a meta to spice production lol
there aint
Spice is nice
im too weak to do the w5 it always kills me
start by doing minibosses
alchemy is realitivly good
yeah i got through it by using this
minibosses like amarock etc.?
those are main bosses, minibosses are the dilapidated slush and the giant mushroom
hm I dont think ive killed one of those yet
work on star signs , need hgiher stamp lvl aim for 3k , better gear get him chizo , and you need him higher lvl , + talents spent better
also do your minibosses that is the most obvious i see
definintly do that they can give keys and candy and gems and stuff thats useful for the corilating world skills
i whould say push ES to w6 asap or start to backtrack getting 9th char atleast and working on your skills
ES almost at w6, I was halting all progression on divinity
but im so close to w6 already
anyone know the best build for dk
as in talents or gear`?
talents
work on star signs , higher stamp lvl aim for 3k , better get chizo , higher lvl char lvl , + talents spent better should keep you busy for some time
A lot of it right now is just character level, need more talent points 
You also haven't spent any books in tab 1/2, I'm sure you have at least a few spare points.
A lot of DK power is tied to your refinery damage talent which requires 1.5x accuracy and refinery ranks, so it starts slowly and builds from there.
You have no obols or lab chips equipped, a mining star sign, and no PO boxes assigned
I think my chiz is allergic to dropping the blankey
wait a damn minute I had tghe w6 boss portal open all day b ut I was farming the 1mil kills lmao
if i have my doot pet but haven unlock all my divinity does the one i haven unlock are activate and if im link to a bonus does it count 2 time?
what is this fight bntw what do the moles do?
not the end of the world, you'll want to do those quests eventually
You don't need to unlock to get the bonuses, links don't count twice
https://imgur.com/rfx0Wvm
and so now the question is should i just switch all my character who sit in divinity in lab now?
Yep, you do still want to unlock Purrmep (tiger, 7th god) to link someone to him
Usually your character with highest Divinity level
hot damn, got molten knucklers in 103M kills. ๐
bout to enter w6 and I only have w3 anvil unlocked xd'
this is more common than you might think. i've seen a lot of anvil3/4 people
critters holding me back
why the one whit the higuest
Minor blessings scale in strength with your divinity level (and Big P yellow bubble)
well idk if the gaming speed blessing is really useful to me same for sailing speed
do i level aNything else but red salt here?
I dont get sneaking at all lol its telling me lv up pending! login to this player?
but im sneaking on the player?
Green probably
good to just keep leveling red/green, and when your red/green get higher you can level orange/purple
so you can get excess of them too
is td6 wave 50 doable with these towers?
hello
hullo
remember you can choose which trap you want with the arrows above the trap
this is good for shinies https://i.imgur.com/WdZgi9G.png
like 1 second 
anyone knows why this happens
Is it a dk?
Yep
dang it
Shaquracy
PSA, redo your td waves once you level your towers up 10-12 levels youll get so many more waves
soul gain 
td?
tower defense
o ye
im strugging on the w3 one trying toi get more frost souls
w30 boss is insane
I redid goblin the other day got to wave 200
is BB the only elite class that doesn't have some way to improve enemy respawns, or did I miss something about them?
this is why BB gets relegated to AFK only
40 td waves is gonna be hooge for souls :d less soul locked pogg
Whatโs a good divinity level to go for before progressing w5
at least arctis unlocked, whatever level you get it at
and then you can take 1-2 people out while the rest keep on praying
40~!
time to max your prayers
just maxed skilled dimwit the other day, gonna try for balance of pain -> midas minded
should help hella with gmush kills
havent started on my 5-10m kills on w1-4 yet 
but ive done everything you wrote down for me to do @solar seal !
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except things that are bc im salt locked, ie traps + salt lick
but i think this last red upgrade will put me in excess for the first 3 salts
first one and he's good!



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