#lategame-chat-w5๐ŸŒ‹-w6๐ŸŒธ

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solar drift
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idk i just rolled whenever i could xd

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but well thats nice, i finish it ahahah

hoary oracle
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hello guys]

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๐Ÿ™‚

thorny nacelle
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Hello

hoary oracle
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hows idleon going for yall. just hit 2M yesterday and im gonna keep gaining(hopefully

thorny nacelle
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It fine, just grinding until new content comes out for now

hoary oracle
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what world are you in?

thorny nacelle
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At the end of W6

hoary oracle
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im always a world or 2 behind of the updates focus so im always late to new content

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rn im in earliesh mid w5

thorny nacelle
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Thats still good tho, reason why im ahead is since ive been around since the release of W3 lol

sterile bison
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Woot woot w3 release club!

thorny nacelle
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Wooooo Yeahh!!!

hoary oracle
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same here actully. except i probably made more stupid mistakes than yall so im behind

sterile bison
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I did a ton of active play which probably helps

thorny nacelle
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Oh alright, still fine though it's nice to have new things to explore lol, just working on increasing all my stats

hoary oracle
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ye same here i need to grind more damage for kruk when im there.

thorny nacelle
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Not doing too much active play rn due to playing helldivers 2 lol but im usually leaving bubo grinding

hoary oracle
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ive gained a good bit thanks to some sailing artifacts. man some of those artifacts really give good bonus

thorny nacelle
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oh yeah those artifacts are super useful

hoary oracle
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ive gained over 50% total damage from them and that will probably grow a lot

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sometime i should look up all the artificats

worthy steeple
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can u reroll the kattle obol to +1 on both afk gain (misc) and +1 on total damage (misc)

hoary oracle
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for a lot of the new skills in w5 and some of of W4 ive been going based on self knowladge and guidence to know what to do

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which isnt always a good idea but its worked okay.

thorny nacelle
thorny nacelle
hoary oracle
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normally i can rely on some genuises in the chat to help me ๐Ÿ˜‚

thorny nacelle
hoary oracle
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im halfway now from kruk.

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in terms of map

thorny nacelle
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nice

hoary oracle
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ye

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man i forgot what my crit damage and rate is but i seem to be getting a lot of high crits

thorny nacelle
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you got the mega crit talent right?

hoary oracle
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not yet actully. i try to get it but i cant get lv 100 on the talent book before that one

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thats probably bad. im behind in a lot of ways

thorny nacelle
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alright, it isn't too important if you do afk more than active, but it is useful to have anyways

hoary oracle
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ye normally when im grinding im either afk or candying. im too impatient to just wait for the kills and do something else

thorny nacelle
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yeah later you can leave your bubo active on certain stages to increase your alchemy level and liquid cauldrons

hoary oracle
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rn im using dk to grind.

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but i know bubo is useful later on

thorny nacelle
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yeah thats fine too, still haven't gotten pirate to the 1m threshhold on their skill for the achievemnt but feel like thats too much of a grind for now, also farming lucky lads to craft the luckier lad with bubo rn

bleak gazelle
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Lul, not me over here stopping for 2 years before world 3 even came out LUL

thorny nacelle
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Dam 2 years? ive stopped for a max of 6 months or so lol

bleak gazelle
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I also took a ~4-5 month break after the fall event last year

hoary oracle
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aperantly one of my friends was dormantly for like a year or 2 in idleon. he came back and saw he was mining copper for 2 years afk. he had gained a little under 50 levels

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max break i have took is probably like 3 or 4 months.

bright meteor
strong shale
hoary oracle
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does cloud order matter in sailing?

strong shale
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the earlier clouds have a lower distance to get to them

hoary oracle
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so the best way is just to go in numerical order?

strong shale
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pretty much yea

bleak gazelle
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More or less

strong shale
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wave 100 will have to do

hoary oracle
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what prayer is on wave 111?

solar seal
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rucksack?

strong shale
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  • carry capacity - afk gain
hoary oracle
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k

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would be useful in active situations along with crafting items that need a lot of recouurces

solar seal
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its mainly for stamps

hoary oracle
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oh ok

bleak gazelle
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Pog 10T with DR setup

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Place yer bets

late grotto
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Where can I get this?

flint nova
bleak gazelle
flint nova
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rip

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Ive gotten 2 sheepies in a row dont fret child

sterile bison
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A lot of places

bleak gazelle
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Most w3 mobs and later

flint nova
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call me crazy but I think sheepie is better than doot when you think about it

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you can have multi kill bubble with classs xp bubble just to name a few

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and call me bob

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Wait

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now that i think about it you can equip 3 bubbles and one divinity

bleak gazelle
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3 bubbles and can swap them whenever

flint nova
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so I guesse doot is better after all ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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im just trying to cope

bleak gazelle
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There are definitely some bubbles that are super strong, but Doot provides QoL that you normally don't have with divines

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also the amount of afk gains you get from doot is stupid

flint nova
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yeah I forgot you can only swap them twice a week

flint nova
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and effiency

bleak gazelle
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never have to plan samples around when you can swap gods

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or redo them when you forget

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same thing with bubbles, I guess, but you can swap from quick ref

flint nova
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yeah

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also only twice a week

solar seal
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not having doot would hurt less if we weren't limited to 2 unlinks

flint nova
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man I just want doot

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yeah lava should do that

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to make it more fair

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I spent 50 dollars on this game

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Im not spending double that on doot

sterile bison
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Why make it more balance when there is suckers like me who will pay for it?

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Though I did try to not pay for it for quite a long time

crimson thistle
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the only thing you need to spend money on in this game is autoloot

tall horizon
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๐Ÿคท I support what I enjoy, i also donate to all of the 3rd party sites lol

crimson thistle
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need

worldly lagoon
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new companion rotation please, let me buy lava a boat

quiet pewter
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so whats the owl all about?

sterile bison
hoary oracle
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have yall figured out who i am? in terms of my older username?(i changed my username for fun to see if people could find out who i was)

rain zealot
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Considering your @ is still the old one and I didn't even know you. On that note

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Owl speculation by what lava posted is a boost similar to party dungeons.

hoary oracle
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you wanna know?

rain zealot
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A perma upgradeable thing based on found feathers

hoary oracle
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idlenoob. used to be idlemaster before that but i got roasted because of how bad i was at idleon so i changed it

simple wadi
pure zenith
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Ayo. I just hit W5 and the divinity grind is killing me. No lab access feels like I am just spinning my wheels. I know that unlocking the 2nd god is the goal but I am getting bad RNG. Would it be a good idea to partition some characters into lab while others sit on divinity ot unlock the god there at a slower pace? Or am I just on day 3 of waiting?

bleak gazelle
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What do you need the lab bonuses for if everyone's on the altar ๐Ÿ™ƒ

pure zenith
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Because early on you don't get lab progress on Divinity?

bleak gazelle
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Yeah, that's fine. Once you unlock goat your people will be living in lab anyway, especially on the path to 1400/2100 lab levels

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The more people you throw at divinity now means more points means faster god rolls

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You can try splitting them if you want but I think you're just increasing the amount of time to get to goat so that you can get double gains on people

pure zenith
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See that's what I'm asking. "Once you unlock X" seems fine and I understand it, but I'm getting bad RNG and 5/7 of my characters are screwing around on a table and I'm not getting a lot out of it. Without brightside my portal pushing is pretty gimped, my salts are slowed, my prints suck, etc.

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So sure I'm getting divinity progress(debatably, as far as a dice will let me) but I can't really do anything else.

empty oracle
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Hiya
Been waiting for some time for the collider to get the first atom
Item already shows as 15M in the chest
Anyone knows how close the game rounds to millions?

bright meteor
zinc torrent
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do roll for 100% if. u can

bleak gazelle
bleak gazelle
empty oracle
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Mhm to both

bleak gazelle
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you can always pull out a million into separate stacks to see how close you are

bright meteor
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Still lacking in td ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ

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Too lazy

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But w5 is next

empty oracle
bleak gazelle
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can you pull 500k?

empty oracle
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Just about 100k

bright meteor
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I don't even want to talk about trapping ๐Ÿ’€

empty oracle
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I also generate quite a little amount per hour so wanted to see how far i am

zinc torrent
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dont even think of atom if u cant print 1m

empty oracle
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It's probably not 15m yet, I'm assuming the game rounded it there
Just don't know how much is missing

zinc torrent
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its just a waste of everything

empty oracle
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I mean I'd like to start lol

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The resources are just sitting there and slowly growing anyways

zinc torrent
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do better like samples then

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bubbles/stamps/etc

empty oracle
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One atom doesn't do anything in enough time?

zinc torrent
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1 atom is worth nothing xd

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i need like 10k for 1 lv rn

empty oracle
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It unlocks the first thing in the collider so I thought it'd get the gears going until I can get more

zinc torrent
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lv1 hydrogen is like -2% not worth much

empty oracle
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No idea what it gives though

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Hmm

lethal aspen
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collider is only worth it once you start getting past 1b resource stacks and it converst automatically

zinc torrent
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better put ur focus to min-maxing skillings

empty oracle
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Gotcha

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Yeah I need to sit and remake all the builds

lethal aspen
empty oracle
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I've been away for like 3 months so got some levels but it feels so hard to sit and min max everything lol

zinc torrent
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min-max we all hate it but we need all that we can get

empty oracle
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Yeah

empty oracle
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Got so much to do
Carry caps
Armor to max
Focus on bubbles

empty oracle
bleak gazelle
empty oracle
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Been so out of it

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Oh?

bright meteor
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Imagine making a to do list

empty oracle
bright meteor
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@empty oracle look at mine

empty oracle
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It's been sitting on my desk for days ๐Ÿ˜‚

bright meteor
empty oracle
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Weeks even

bright meteor
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Forgot it existed

toxic saddle
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The only list Iโ€™ve ever made, was a guide

empty oracle
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Noice

toxic saddle
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On what every resource did in the game

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And how to get each and every one effectively GuyMontag

bright meteor
toxic saddle
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Never used it tho lol

empty oracle
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That's idleon for you

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You think something is important and in 2 days the focus changes

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Important thing becomes an idle grind and you start looking into a whole new kind of gameplay

toxic saddle
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Itโ€™s just thereโ€™s so much in the guide I made, I have to separate it damn near, and those little partsโ€ฆ are everywhere

bleak gazelle
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and then you have to update it

empty oracle
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Oof
Yeah haha

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Lava moves a number and everything you've written about is out of date

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That's kind of my pickle with the updates
I guess each to their own but I like having my builds persist indefinitely
When there's build changing updates I don't enjoy having to do everything all over again ๐Ÿ˜…

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It's a fun game
Just really tiring for an idle game lol

bleak gazelle
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Thankfully he doesn't tend to shake up old things that often

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He might rework new things that get introduced and maybe fix some bugs for old stuff, but primarily just makes new, more ridiculous systems

bright meteor
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Bruh there is a spider on my bed

bleak gazelle
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tuck it in

worldly lagoon
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charge it rent

bleak gazelle
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tell it to play for you while you sleep

strong shale
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rko it

worldly lagoon
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teach it to hourly click

oblique zinc
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Which mobs should i farm for cranium cooking

solar seal
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tremor wurms > citringes > flombeiges > bloques. if you can't 1 shot one with poison, go to next one

oblique zinc
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Thank you!

bright meteor
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Soon lab 1.6k

bright meteor
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Time to push w5 td

oblique zinc
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I m in w5 and i sample 85 bloaches that s bad isnโ€™t it

strong shale
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very bad

junior dune
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How are your tackles and lures? Depth is very important for bloach samples

hoary oracle
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hello

junior dune
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Fishing food is also real good

bright meteor
junior dune
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130?

bright meteor
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90 right now I'll see

bleak gazelle
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114

junior dune
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Are you going for the cloud?

bright meteor
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Yes

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and just working on to increase msa because I can

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and more souls

junior dune
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Be mindful of the party starter range. It may be wise to put one on the bottom platform, especially if you don't usually buy as many towers as the guides do

bright meteor
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why bottom

junior dune
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Because usually you put them on the top platform, but with towers in the 60s the later party starters won't be able to reach the furthest towers from up there

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And you won't quite fill up the bottom if you don't usually build all the towers in the guide so it doesn't matter if you take up a spot on the bottom

bright meteor
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I got enough range

junior dune
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Nice! What are your tower lvls?

bright meteor
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nvm I messed up

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not all of them actually

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๐Ÿ˜ก

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it's ok

junior dune
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Yeah, I got to 130 while messing up as well

next temple
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I just got this quest...and I'm literally wearing the scarf, so not sure why it's 0/1?

proud pumice
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maybe you need to put it on, if you already have it it doesn't count

next temple
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yu mean...craft it again?

proud pumice
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no

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take it off and then put it on

next temple
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oh yeah, tried that, left map too...hmm

proud pumice
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if it didn't work, maybe taking it off, rejecting quest, accepting quest again and putting it on works

bleak gazelle
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Do I really want to resample?

raven pasture
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took me like 10 months

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to get chemical plant

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i got a 2.8m nugget before i got it man

bleak gazelle
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that's rough

next temple
bright meteor
raven pasture
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yeah

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i got doot like a week after the update dropped

junior dune
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120 is the hard round as usual. After that 130 is free

bright meteor
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I'll pass u

worldly lagoon
bleak gazelle
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starting to get nuggets close to my current kittHM

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better not give me some shit 1% increase

junior dune
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The higher your nuggets get the bigger the risk is. You might get something huge, but it also gets more likely to get a tiny increase

bleak gazelle
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I demand at least a 3% CoL adjustment kittSLAM

bright meteor
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wave 120...

ebon helm
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is it more of a priority to push through W5? or to unlock the Vman? i can get the million with about 5 hours of active ES, or I can send my ES to push W5 and gain levels

toxic saddle
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Put blood berserker instead of es, and push w5 with es

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Chows and getting the vman happy

oblique zinc
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In gaming, does the box costing 3m actually contain nothing?

bleak gazelle
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you can also throw other people at deathnote instead

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these are the only two that actually contain nothing

echo gulch
bleak gazelle
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future expansion? same as the thing that requires lvl 999

echo gulch
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Ah a placeholder

bleak gazelle
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most likely will just be forgotten KEKW

oblique zinc
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Should i leave chars in divinity even after i get bear?

bleak gazelle
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Though feel free to rotate 1-2 out to do other things

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You still have plenty of gods to unlock and div levels to gain

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Refer to ๐Ÿ“Œ for what else you'll want to do

oblique zinc
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Alr thank you!

bleak gazelle
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Oh, i finally unlocked dungeon drops last run Pog

worldly lagoon
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oh i should start doing that too xD and pearl drops too

solar seal
left dirge
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can

deft grail
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No way to increase Divinity AFK gains right? sitting at 100%

bleak gazelle
bleak gazelle
solar seal
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6x gains, yuge ๐Ÿ“ˆ

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can almost hourly click :3

junior dune
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You can definitely hourly click with 2x.

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187m in 2 slots doubled by lab gives almost 800m and you should have enough printer buffs to take it the last bit I think

bleak gazelle
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yeah, DK bonus is at 1.2x and i've got eldritch obol

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pretty much all those gains were 6x except this, lul

junior dune
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I gotta set up some more good hourly clicks and get to a point where I can use the artifact efficiently

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My plan is to use my 6x ES to print atoms and dedicate everything else to hourly clicks

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But that will probably be like a month away

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I've turned billions of godshard ore into bars at this point. It takes a lot

bleak gazelle
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i didn't even have my right keychain on. had a 2% instead of 6%, oops

eternal wasp
bleak gazelle
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i would call that 1000% gains?

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or like 900%? idk what the "correct" terminology is

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so 10x it is

junior dune
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I think we might be referring to different things. I was thinking of the lab and god doubling when I said 2x and 6x

bleak gazelle
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Oh i know that, I was refering to my actual print gains

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All the previous ones were about 6x

floral hull
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Anyone knows what tab 4 skills on dk affect passive fighting

junior dune
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It's also in the pins

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That post is real old though and I don't know much about how talents work with afk fighting

bleak gazelle
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not bad, not bad

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i need to go back and see which bugs i actually need though

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w5/6 and equinox for vial kittHM

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and w6 to get to atom range

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realized this 2nd SB doesn't have w6 mats unlocked, oops

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only one map away from ladybugs, so I can probably let him afk there while I do others KEKW

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good thing i went backwards

vocal ibex
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Hello for the ships making them level 300 where do I start?

bleak gazelle
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Wdym, start with whichever boat is highest on work on the mats you need for it?

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You've probably got 1-2 boats which are clearly higher than the others

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Most likely upgraded when you were going for fury or one of the last 3 islands, so you probably had a bunch of mats to upgrade boats that used those

junior dune
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I got the achievement by selling a bunch of rare last island materials and then upgrading the first boat

vocal ibex
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I tried upgrading last boat it takes days to 1 up

sterile bison
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For the 300 upgrade first ship cause sell items for gold

remote grove
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Quick question, assuming a player knows every single thing to do as efficiently as possible, what's the earliest time someone could unlock W5 from a fresh profile? Curious

vocal ibex
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Interesting sell materials

bleak gazelle
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but my damage gains from artifact PepeHands

tribal vessel
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im on round 201 in pet battle should i stop or keep ?

bleak gazelle
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keep going for science grumblo_steal

sterile bison
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Other than the science

vocal ibex
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Push it for sheets and giggles

tribal vessel
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i just click exit ?

vocal ibex
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Unless it going to take a long time

sterile bison
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I usually just turn off auto and let it end naturally

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Maybe someone else can confirm it works if you exit

bleak gazelle
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i hit exit on mine and it recorded

junior dune
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Yeah exiting works

bleak gazelle
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caveat i also checked on IT beforehand

tribal vessel
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exit work xD

bleak gazelle
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๐ŸŽ‰

tribal vessel
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pog !

bleak gazelle
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at the rate i'm going, i'm really gonna have to break this up into two days, smh

wispy fulcrum
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With doot, these dont just stack together right, to where you would have arctis putting them in lab and therefore also counting in divinity

bleak gazelle
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With doot it works regularly, you have to be physically in lab to gain lab gains (and additional div gains via goat)

wispy fulcrum
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ah ok ty

bleak gazelle
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You just get the bonus of never losing lab connection when you decide to walk out YEP

worldly lagoon
# wispy fulcrum ah ok ty

however once u take the cahrs out of lab the nodes stay connected just no exp or div gain, so you wanna swap to tranqi divinity style

bleak gazelle
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why are there so many damned logs in this game

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Thanks Scolibot happytroll

wispy fulcrum
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How many golden grilled cheese nomwich do you have just curious as to what the % is at your stage

bleak gazelle
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thats the 10k stack there

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I'm like 5k off from adding the 100k stack

wispy fulcrum
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ohh i didnt even read what that was giving you lmao damn

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So the beanstalk gives you the bonuses of the golden food that you give it aka 10k and then also increases it?

bleak gazelle
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It says all sources, so I guess it adds all your account wide golden food bonuses like stamps, bribes, achievements, meal, star sign, not sure if I actually have enough for 248% though, so maybe it adds something to that too?

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It gives you the bonus of a 10k stack to all your characters and that bonus will add additively with golden food in your inventory, making it better than if you had the 10k+inventory only

wispy fulcrum
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damn so thats a really nice bonus to get

bleak gazelle
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mhmm

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w5 ones are super easy to get since you'll probably CC and statue farm there for a bit

junior dune
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Just as importantly it is very satisfying to see your beanstalk get more full

worldly lagoon
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yeah dropping my last stack of cake felt so good on it

bleak gazelle
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so smol

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but i'll take it

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bleh, only got 3 people finished KEKW

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i'm so slow at sampling

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well, got +1 slab

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why does it have so much defence KEKW

steep kiln
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Ready for your 11th character

strong shale
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depends on how much u whale

junior dune
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It would be a bit fun to try it. I'm sure it could go really quite fast with liberal candy use and lots of gems

dapper kraken
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I should always choose the black sailing captain right ? No matter the stats

junior dune
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Almost certainly. You might not want to replace a captain with 500% more loot value than the ender captain will get, but even then it is debatable and depend on how it actually is calculated

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If you are still going for artifacts I would say always get ender captains with no asterisk

dapper kraken
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Ok, I would replace the ender captain after I get all sovereign aritifact. Since my lowest captain is already 700%

junior dune
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The assumption here is that the buff works as if it gave +25% loot value to all captains. Since there are 20 captains that would mean +500% total loot value. If the captain you are replacing can beat that you probably will get less loot with the ender

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I'm not certain that is how it works, but it seems reasonable and the effect size seems to be about the right size

strong shale
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upgraded my blood marrow from 161 to 225 and gained like 220m% cooking speed, holy fuck

junior dune
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I think I'm in the QQQ range currently. Exponentials get insane fast

strong shale
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Yea my first kitchen just hit QQQ

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Almost 1.9k meal levels and havent started the last w5 area yet

crimson thistle
uncut knot
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how do you check your raw kph (without bubbles or prayers or w/e)

still apex
gentle furnace
junior dune
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If you get 1M kph with the lab doubler and 1000% MK you would get at most 50,000 raw kph, but it should really be lower because of kill per kill

uncut knot
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hm ok. still trying to figure out the drop calc and figure i need it accurate so that i don't waste 3 months to get the t5 knuckles

zinc torrent
junior dune
teal brook
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best character to use if i want too time candy for a stamp?

uncut knot
teal brook
zinc torrent
teal brook
zinc torrent
uncut knot
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lol 2 lucky lads and still havent gotten the w3 splicer recipe

teal brook
junior dune
# uncut knot these are the suggma knucks? bc if so i'll move ppl around but i'm kind of at a ...

Suggma is the ones with the bad recipe. They give 10% damage and 10% respawn, which is a terrible upgrade from diabolical which has the starfire in the recipe. Therefore almost everyone upgrades to the next tier which is the kruk gloves in the image. The recipe should be easy enough. If you struggle with starfire bars I have bad news about godshard and like all the W6 recipes. Be sure to check out this guide from the W6 pins to improve bar production though #1208108939313684621 message

uncut knot
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you dont need the suggma glove to upgrade to kruk? bc if so i've been wasting so much time lol. and yeah i've heardabout starfire+ and i've resigned to doing everything i can short of 2m afks

junior dune
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If you are struggling with w3 splicer recipe it isn't time to go for the suggma recipe

uncut knot
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oh nvm, i afk'd for 2 m and got it. idk why it took so long active -_-;

junior dune
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Sadly you do. Molten core is the suggma gloves

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The archer smelting talent doesn't account for mk when active for some reason. It makes it almost useless active

uncut knot
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even less reason to use archers active. that w4 achievement is going to stay dark lol

zinc torrent
silk yoke
#

Im kind of stuck

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I cant kill kattle cruk...

zinc torrent
silk yoke
#

Thank you

short jacinth
#

skilled dimwit affects divinity exp gain ?

short jacinth
dreamy cosmos
#

yoo world 5 finally

dreamy cosmos
#

what is the best upgrade?

mighty hinge
#

do boats have a max lv?

mighty hinge
zinc torrent
dreamy cosmos
#

oh

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doesnt sound fun

zinc torrent
#

there is pins here for early w5

dreamy cosmos
#

everything from lab straight into divinity i guess

sharp glacier
#

I feel like my gaming bit rate has stagnated pretty hard after reaching the trillions, any idea what I may be doing wrong?

zinc torrent
#

its the artifacts

sharp glacier
#

Hmm but the artifacts that give bit multi are pretty far for now...

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I'm only around the snowman island so far

dreamy cosmos
#

i got this artifact from my first boat expidition. Isnt it the same as the lab bonus?

sharp glacier
dreamy cosmos
#

oh

sharp glacier
echo crag
#

at this point lab is level from any map within that world, artifact is bonus on all maps

dreamy cosmos
#

i see

lament patrol
#

what do i do wish chem plants?

dreamy cosmos
#

where can i find the slab bonusses

sharp glacier
#

Is there a list where I can see all the sources of bit multi?

sharp glacier
dreamy cosmos
sharp glacier
#

Yes

dreamy cosmos
#

guess i have to do slab now

sharp glacier
#

Atleast the ones affected by them

#

Not all artifacts obviously

sharp glacier
#

Shows all the slab stacks you may have missed

dreamy cosmos
#

wtf i just got casually 300% coins?

sharp glacier
dreamy cosmos
#

thats grazy

sharp glacier
#

Plus its pretty easy to get the ancient version

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Which makes it 600%

sharp glacier
dreamy cosmos
#

nice

dreamy cosmos
sharp glacier
#

Helped me out a ton

dreamy cosmos
#

where?

sharp glacier
dreamy cosmos
#

i hate this game

sharp glacier
#

You need to upload your profile to idleon efficiency first tho*

dreamy cosmos
#

i alr did that

sharp glacier
#

Then it's super simple just follow the steps listed in the site

twilit goblet
#

Gaming Breakpoints (SPEED)

Some different breakpoints for 5 sec Gaming I've gotten so far (from others):
Keep in mind, this doesnt show how many upgrades into that "timer" they are at.
Once you reach 5 sec gaming, speed becomes "irrelevant" and you want to push anything for more bits, to get the 90Q red unlock.
Vid of 5 second gaming: โ questions-w6๐ŸŒธโ 

0.9min with 5.42x Evo chance from W6 farming
1.2min with 6.21x Evo
1.4min with 7.57x Evo
1.7min with 9.05x Evo
1.8min with 8.36x Evo

Now that I am 1.7 Min with 8.68x evo, what am I expecting from gaming?

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can't seem to be able to do the spam harvest as they don't seem to spawn fast enough

twilit goblet
#

oh nvm somehow it seems like I need higher evo with 1.7 than 1.8

hoary oracle
#

unless your sort of lucky and you get the first 2 in 3 days.

silver panther
#

Is: forager, miasma, borger, converter still the meta for spice farming? I get a (way) higher speed with forager, miasma, borger and flasy (the rabbit)

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how does this math work? 50% not to reset trekking progress, but does that equal 50% speed? And isn't that than just the same as flashy which also gives 50% extra foraging power?

paper sail
# silver panther how does this math work? 50% not to reset trekking progress, but does that equal...

Every spice takes longer to collect than the last, so 50% speed is worth way less. You can also not reset unlimited times in a row.

In the same duration, Flashy might increase from 200 to 250 spices, whereas a single Converter proc is +200, and could be more. This only gets more exaggerated as you get higher counts. That extra speed might only be worth 40, 30, 20, 10, etc. extra spices when you're collecting 300 or 800 at a time

Flashy should only be used on the very bottom spices where rate for even a single spice sucks.

arctic steeple
#

Hello, I have a question regarding gaming growth cycle. In the endgame chat, some players say that doing gaming in the w5 town in better perf wise, whereas for me, in the w5 town i have 1 new plant every 2-3 second and in any monster map, I have all plants in 4-5 seconds. What am I missing?

lethal aspen
#

nothing

arctic steeple
dreamy cosmos
#

HOLY F

#

after only 2 weeks is grazy

paper sail
arctic steeple
paper sail
#

Same lol. I don't have exact numbers to offer, but 0.8 min is too slow for me

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Probably down closer to 0.3 min

arctic steeple
#

aight. I'm still at 1min, that explains a lot

#

thanks mate

gusty snow
#

is this still the case? (sorry for necro ping)

upbeat stratus
#

Is there any shiny pet tier list?

bleak gazelle
paper sail
main kettle
#

Is DK good for w5? If so should I afk or active Beacuz the afk gains are horrible

solar flame
#

brother DK is the secret to w5

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active play too

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im p sure for orb kills, exp rate, and drops

main kettle
#

am still at the second map so am not seeing the best from him

solar flame
#

drop stats

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if possible

main kettle
solar flame
#

seems a little undergeared

#

also switch your rings

echo crag
#

make sure to boost your Dk accuracy

main kettle
#

I do itโ€™s 27k when used all acc buffs

main kettle
solar flame
#

for skilling yes

#

but for example this gives you way more bang for your buck

#

and can be gotten fairly quickly from dungeon shop

echo crag
#

only get 1 and save for opals after

main kettle
solar seal
#

strongly recommended is always based on your progress. in w3? yeah probably best rings you'll have. in w5? not still the case

bleak gazelle
#

Yeah, accuracy is low so you're missing damage from your refinery talent. Mostly just need levels

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oh lul, imagine if i scrolled down all the way

solar seal
#

happens to the best of us

bleak gazelle
#

Just realized the accuracy for w5 mobs changes in groups instead of individually

echo crag
#

at least your only late by like 5min

bleak gazelle
#

true, i was still relevant, just repeated what you said

echo crag
#

had time i did similar but with a convo for hours ago XD

main kettle
solar seal
#

yeah... then in w6 it goes back to changing by map

bleak gazelle
#

I'd probably just keep smacking them to gain some levels YEP

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Suggmas may give more xp because they have lower hp and you can kill more peepoShrug

main kettle
#

mkay

bleak gazelle
#

Map is much better for DK too with just two levels

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Try that, get some levels, spend some talent points, get a bit more accuracy than push forward peepoShrug

echo crag
#

can also give him the +crystal card if he can manage to kill them safely and it will level up faster too

main kettle
main kettle
#

Thanks

bleak gazelle
#

If you think you can drop 1-2 cards, then equipping either or both of these cards will greatly increase your xp gain

main kettle
#

okay sure!

sharp glacier
#

Is the quality of cogs you get dependant on the level of the character producing them?

solar seal
#

dependent on your best character's max construction level

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you'll see people pull their DKs off the board to make ulti cogs -> but this is just cause they are the fastest since they'll have highest production speed. doesn't mean you must have dks in the ulti slots when you are just making them normally

sharp mauve
#

You mean Construction level?

dreamy cosmos
harsh glen
#

i was trying to unlock evergreen for 2 weeks and got chemical on second try on 0,4%

#

should i keep chemical to it 4 evolution then use it?

solar flame
silver panther
silver panther
dreamy cosmos
silver panther
#

Just gave this one a better weapon yesterday:
And he's at skydoggie in W6

dreamy cosmos
silver panther
dreamy cosmos
#

fair enough

solar flame
silver panther
#

And he's my 2nd blood berserker so he gets the leftovers. First blood berserker (roughly the same level) is in divine outfit with 2x emperors opal

dreamy cosmos
#

why is this world 5 shop stamp sooo mcuh cheaper then the world 4 ones, :/

dreamy cosmos
simple wadi
# bleak gazelle ๐ŸŽ‰

I've been debating on trying for the 1b sample cloud for equinox. My sample multiplier from artifact is currently at 3.40x. But I keep putting it off because I'm afraid the sample is going to be like 980m instead of 1b and it'll reset that artifact bonus, haha.

bleak gazelle
#

lul, true. i just gave up on artifact bonus and worked on all the other skill eff/afk bonuses

#

resampled on my 3 last characters last night and got 6-10x gains

#

need to redo the first page now

bleak gazelle
bleak gazelle
#

Beyond Void/Chiz though, everything after starts from Troll armor

dusk kelp
#

What is the best way to farm does strength statues for monolith? It is taking forever to get those an I already have like 15k lumber statues

dreamy cosmos
#

can anyone make a ss from the world 5 miniboss card?

simple wadi
bleak gazelle
echo crag
#

10+ DR minimum too

dreamy cosmos
bleak gazelle
#

mine finally upgraded Pog got the beanie recipe too

dusk kelp
echo crag
#

next october

bleak gazelle
#

I think next one in rotation is October Sadge

#

so keep GAMBA

dusk kelp
#

๐Ÿฅฒ

dreamy cosmos
bleak gazelle
#

honestly, not bad. middle of the pack, there are definitely worse things you could have gotten LUL

dreamy cosmos
#

guess so ye but i needed that choco chip

bleak gazelle
#

lab chip will be quite useful for a while

echo crag
#

i wont ssay what my first 2 gamble gave me cuz...

dreamy cosmos
bleak gazelle
#

i gambled 3 chocos in a row after setting up to purchase one and then didn't login for a week smh

#

2 is kind of QOL, 3 is just overkill imo

echo crag
#

at least you dont need to move them around anymore XD

bleak gazelle
#

i wonder if we'll get lab chip quick swap

#

like obols

echo crag
#

would be nice qol

dreamy cosmos
#

chips arent to hard to swap, i dont mind

echo crag
#

not all complext since its only 7 to sawp, but still faster than unequip and requip

dreamy cosmos
#

(i got 2) ๐Ÿ™‚

#

is there even a reason to afk cooking except for levels

bleak gazelle
#

looks like i'll be able to finish this in 10 hours

bleak gazelle
dreamy cosmos
#

what is the ladel chance?

bleak gazelle
#

based on your efficiency and afk gains. PO Box also gives you a chance for 2x

#

you typically don't afk for ladles for quite a while though. need to complete your chows on BB and work on other things

dreamy cosmos
#

i get 12 a day, aint no way i am wasting time on cooking

#

or i put every char on cooking for a year, deff worth it

echo crag
#

yeah it goes a lot higher later on

elfin cypress
#

I went afk for about 400 days when w4 first came out. I left all my chars on cooking and came back to 50k ladles. Not bad considering that I had low efficiency and levels before leaving the game for so long.

Those ladles have certainly boosted my meals greatly.

grave tundra
#

I have the void walker talent for cooking at 0.66 percent and it is only giving me a 1% boost total even though I have 74 meals levels

#

Is there something Iโ€™m missing

bleak gazelle
#

Meal levels hehe

bleak gazelle
#

It'll start taking off once you get to around 500 i think

dreamy cosmos
grave tundra
echo crag
#

800-1000 is where it goes alot higher, i think 500 might be like 10%-25%. i dont recall how to calculate that again

bleak gazelle
#

the math doesn't work quite how it explains it in the talent. if you search through discord you can probably find plent of discussion

main kettle
#

best way to get this?(am two maps into w5)

bleak gazelle
#

Mostly events, some quests, and Killroy, though I don't recommend spending skulls on that

livid anvil
#

what to use in w5 pushing,afk

bleak gazelle
#

Easiest to push through afk is BB, but that typically has the hardest time with the boss

#

ES/DK or SB should be good

livid anvil
#

i think Dk then GuyMontag

#

i need to get 30m damage as well

bleak gazelle
#

I believe Grumblo_Pray

main kettle
#

when the hell do these spawn

#

(the fish)_

icy pulsar
#

fish were THANKFULLY removed

main kettle
#

how can i complete my treasure hunt :(

icy pulsar
#

there was an announcement about it

main kettle
#

so i cant anymore or what

livid anvil
#

it's simply requires you to enter the world 2 colosseum

#

no need to fish

sharp mauve
#

Worth using over Fistcuff in Wurm CC? ๐Ÿค”

gentle furnace
#

No

ebon helm
#

are 50% offerings worth saving up for in divinity, or should I keep rolling for better odds?

sharp mauve
#

No respawn rate... I dun like it ๐Ÿ˜ฆ I was doing Eclipse Skull grind

sharp mauve
#

1% rolled a God Rank, imagine. happytroll

icy pulsar
livid anvil
#

red or black

icy pulsar
#

black always because black = no light and only in darkness will winning shine brightest Grumblo_Pray

ebon helm
livid anvil
ebon helm
#

does mantis count for Chow?

bleak gazelle
#

still 3x Pog

#

next time ez though

worldly lagoon
sharp glacier
#

Is lustre gear worth it?

simple wadi
#

Oh well

worldly lagoon
#

yeah but those extra atoms will help u get even higher

sharp glacier
dense forum
teal brook
dense forum
#

Some still dementia though since I keep running out off water lol

teal brook
#

water is a pain can only buy so much daily and cant farm it like distilled water

bleak gazelle
dense forum
#

My vman is for monster mat bubbles like name I guess

ebon helm
#

does gold relic reset if anyone does a sample, or does it track per character, or per sample?

bleak gazelle
#

anyone

#

even if you accidentally take it YEP

sharp glacier
sharp glacier
#

Until troll*

teal brook
sharp glacier
#

Hmm okay thanks for the help

teal brook
#

ofc

dense forum
teal brook
#

takes soo long better things to use it on then armor at that point

dense forum
#

Ye probably

sharp glacier
#

Plus I can't farm out that many monster drops either

#

As my es dosent do enough damage to get that much

#

And I think by the time I'm doing that much damage I should be able to get troll gear anyway

short sparrow
#

2nd magma wep crafted wheee

oblique zinc
#

All my chars are max lvl 10 in div btw, crazy luck

#

4th day of w5

paper yarrow
#

What level of BB would you recommend to take on base Kattlekruk? With void armor or equivalent.

bleak gazelle
#

level is mostly irrelevant. You'll need about 80m damage to be comfortable, might be able to pull it off with 50-60m

#

You can check ๐Ÿ“Œ for an infographic on recommended damage for classes. There's also a pin that shows VMan doing nightmare kattle, the strategy for that is similar to what you'll do with BB if your damage is a bit low

paper yarrow
#

Check what sorry?

bleak gazelle
#

Check the pushpins in this channel. If you're on desktop should just be right up at the top

#

If you're on mobile, tap the channel name then Pins. Should be the second ๐Ÿ“Œ

fast wolf
#

my BM does 85m i might push w5 with it

#

bruh how do i get 180 orb score in rift 8

#

i can one shot the enmies

bleak gazelle
#

fair enough, its active respawn talent is...rough though, so you could try pushing afk with if while being active on something else, too

#

for orb, you'll probably need more move speed and higher orb talent levels

#

or more points in boomerang/statue

fast wolf
#

my orb is lvl 117

#

prob need more

#

kinda low

bleak gazelle
#

what's your movespeed at, too?

hazy atlas
#

do I have to put on the scarf to get the cape?

bleak gazelle
#

no, cape is just rng

fast wolf
#

can ez increase just equip pots and lab chip

bleak gazelle
#

I would do that and try again YEP

fast wolf
#

alr

#

alr its 175 now

#

still at 120 max

#

127

bleak gazelle
#

well, either more movespeed or just more talent levels, not just in orb but boomerang and statue, too

next temple
#

what do yall target for snail rolls

bleak gazelle
#

like for encouragement chance?

#

I've just been following this

hoary oracle
#

hello

dry bough
#

hello

#

does anyone know how i can get an massive accuracy spike? im an bubo

hoary oracle
#

oh dang

#

thats low

dry bough
#

yeah

#

no clue how to up it though

hoary oracle
#

have you been doing slower bonuses like shaquracy and the bonus from flurbo?

dry bough
#

holy shit that talent is broken

dry bough
hoary oracle
teal inlet
#

try to get a vman then you can get much higher levels of basic stat talents

dry bough
teal inlet
#

ah right

dry bough
#

rather poor ;-;

teal inlet
#

uninflated gloves are pretty easy and it is quite enough for me tho

hoary oracle
#

and just make sure you do the dungeon hour when you can that can give you a lot of flurbos. also secondary stat is important sample the recource you need for your secondary stat. for example you would want to get copper ore for the 1st bubble of the green cauldron

dry bough
balmy kelp
#

in the next map, total left spot

#

also change your fishing equipment

teal inlet
#

alchemy

#

it is all alchemy

dry bough
#

it isnt bad

balmy kelp
teal inlet
#

and also why are you using a dk for fishing

dry bough
balmy kelp
#

there are some specific for specific fishes

teal inlet
#

use a bb

balmy kelp
#

and also the spots, and yes, use a BB

dry bough
#

this is what i use

balmy kelp
#

!fishingchart

teal inlet
#

use a bb they are specialised in fishing

balmy kelp
#

!fishchart

obtuse orbitBOT
dry bough
balmy kelp
dry bough
#

ah yeah will follow that!

balmy kelp
#

each fish has a "best possible spot"

#

and of course, use a blood berserker

dry bough
#

holy shit just listening to all of yalls advice has upped my accuracy by 4k

balmy kelp
#

dk is shit at fishing

dry bough
#

but my bb is cooking

#

and well uhm

#

he's my mining slave

hoary oracle
dry bough
#

gosh i feel so dumb

hoary oracle
#

theres a lot of bonuses to accuracy that are hard to notice somtimes

dry bough
#

!ie

obtuse orbitBOT
balmy kelp
balmy kelp
#

dk = mining
bb = fishing for sampling then cooking

dry bough
#

or world 3 actually

balmy kelp
#

yes but after you reach w4

dry bough
#

i didnt have a choice

balmy kelp
#

you have to re-organize them xD

#

to specific tasks, and fishing is w2 skill

dry bough
#

i left these two alone for 4 years just mining and fishing

balmy kelp
dry bough
#

just now getting back in the game

#

about 2 weeks ago

hoary oracle
dry bough
#

yeah everything's changed

#

for the better atleast haha

hoary oracle
#

yeah lava really updates frequently.

dry bough
#

thats a good thing haha

hoary oracle
#

some games take forever to get the slightest updates

#

also just so you know you need 39k accuracy to get to the last map but kattlekruk for some reason only needs 3.75 k accuracy so dont worry about him in terms of accuracy

dry bough
#

39k suddenly seems reachable after all these tips

hoary oracle
#

yeah when you know the bonuses then accuracy is really easy to get a lot of

#

everyone has things to work on. you need accuracy. rn i need damage im grinding to get more.

#

i need a lot for kruk

calm bridge
#

why 0?

dry bough
hoary oracle
dry bough
#

im at 4.9m rn

main kettle
#

how can I boost DK dmg since I just started using him to push w5

hoary oracle
#

i need this much

dry bough
#

pushing with DK?

hoary oracle
dry bough
#

smart

#

good defense/accuracy yet bad dps right?

hoary oracle
hoary oracle
hoary oracle
main kettle
#

I just started w5 and my main was BB that pushes w4 so heโ€™s the highest lvl and my best but am switching to DK for w5 so it will take me so long wouldnโ€™t it

dry bough
#

get this one

#

this one aswell

main kettle
dry bough
#

the third

hoary oracle
# main kettle Still 1st island

definintly work on it then. in island one theres ruble cube in island and in island 3 theres fun hippotae ruble cube is good but i see you have that. the one in island 3 in hippote is really good

main kettle
#

okay Iโ€™ll try pushing the 3rd island

hoary oracle
#

6% increase every power of 10 for construction speed. so hopefully if youve been working at least some at construction you should have at least like a 24% increase

hoary oracle
dry bough
#

yeah those are insane

#

especially the slash one

hoary oracle
#

yeah giant boomerang is also good it can hit a lot of enemies at once

dry bough
#

havent unlocked dk myself yet

hoary oracle
#

really?

dry bough
#

so havent gotten the chance to test it yet

hoary oracle
#

i shouldnt be talking either cause ive only unlocked like 3 or 4 of the elite classes

dry bough
#

this is all i got

#

dont mind the "slight" level gaps

hoary oracle
#

i have some pretty big level gaps too

#

i really mained a lot in world 2-4 so i have some pretty big level gaps

warm steppe
#

whats the meta for gaming mutations? im got 5/8 on the 6th plant and i swear ive done like over 50 attempts at 5-8% all fails

main kettle
#

This is what am working on with dk rn

dry bough
hoary oracle
main kettle
dry bough
#

thats INSANELY low

hoary oracle
#

i had 1 mil and i was on the third map

main kettle
#

eh itโ€™s not that hard

dry bough
hoary oracle
#

you need to stop take a break and gain at least 1 mil damage before you go any further and definintly dont go doing kruk with anything close to that also sorry im freaking out im just allerigic to low damage so i kinda hate myself

#

man i need to take a breath

hoary oracle
hoary oracle
main kettle
main kettle
dry bough
#

please pick ur keys up

#

and redeem ur pachinko balls

#

do ur minibosses aswell(this is a massive one)

dry bough
#

try to get them all atleast at lvl 4

main kettle
dry bough
main kettle
#

yeh I didnโ€™t reach the map for w5 miniboss

dry bough
main kettle
#

Yeah not yet but only 23k to go

dry bough
#

get ur traps setup, this is MAYOR

#

all of your accounts should have traps placed at all times

hoary oracle
#

first things first you need to start sacrificing some of your acc for damage. you can replace 1 or 2 of the cards with damage cards. also start putting your post office boxes into damage. alchemy is not looking good. try to get unlock more bubbles if you can with bubo/shaman skill bubble breakthrough

#

not all your acc you still need it but you need more damage

dry bough
#

try getting ur first divinity on

#

the +30% is insane.

hoary oracle
#

yeah first divinty give a lot of acc and defense so you dont have to worry as much about accuracy

dry bough
#

his divine knight is level 86?

hoary oracle
#

you need to level that up

main kettle
dry bough
#

yeah thats definitely a game changer

main kettle
#

idk why it isnโ€™t shown

dry bough
#

ah. this is from multiple weeks ago

hoary oracle
#

you know how to update it right?

main kettle
#

Yea

dry bough
#

i dont

hoary oracle
#

go do that then things might look a lot different

dry bough
#

if this is still the same

#

please immediatelly change that.

hoary oracle
#

you need to get some tools.

dry bough
#

that is an absolute game changer

main kettle
main kettle
dry bough
#

whats the error say?

main kettle
#

alright good

dry bough
#

wierd not for me

main kettle
hoary oracle
#

so here ima list some things you need to do so you can remember this: work on alchemy get and use some damage cards. put some post office boxes into damage. use up your keys and miniboss uses. get traps set up. get tools(and good ones) keep working on divinity. do more sailing. and i think thats it. sometime you can copy this down or something and check these off.

hoary oracle
main kettle
teal brook
#

is the items for the mutton quest a base drop or a rare drop? if so i ES or DK better?

hoary oracle
#

but its good that levels are looking better. im geussing that it was 86 before you started doing w5 but now its gone up to 116 so thats good

hoary oracle
hoary oracle
#

uh ok

main kettle
hoary oracle
dry bough
#

nice alchemy dude

hoary oracle
#

thx

bleak furnace
#

what does green stack an item mean?

hoary oracle
dry bough
#

except for the vials

hoary oracle
#

when youve done that it should be green

hoary oracle
dry bough
#

cooking is INSANE

hoary oracle
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insanly bad or good?

dry bough
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insanely good

hoary oracle
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k

spice meadow
bleak furnace
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fk that for now Iguessz

dry bough
hoary oracle
dry bough
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try making an straight line out of boa's

spice meadow
dry bough
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like this, then place beans for the rest

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that would more than 5x ur spice production

teal brook
bleak furnace
teal brook
dry bough
teal brook
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https://nils_peder.idleonefficiency.com need this

bleak furnace
hoary oracle
bleak furnace
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sorry

dry bough
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also do ur minibosses lel

bleak furnace
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I didnt know there was a meta to spice production lol

dry bough
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there aint

spice meadow
hoary oracle
dry bough
hoary oracle
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alchemy is realitivly good

dry bough
bleak furnace
dry bough
bleak furnace
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hm I dont think ive killed one of those yet

teal brook
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also do your minibosses that is the most obvious i see

hoary oracle
teal brook
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i whould say push ES to w6 asap or start to backtrack getting 9th char atleast and working on your skills

bleak furnace
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ES almost at w6, I was halting all progression on divinity

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but im so close to w6 already

hoary oracle
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anyone know the best build for dk

teal brook
hoary oracle
bleak furnace
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ok I get my mush and slushies

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is that all Ineed to do?

teal brook
bleak gazelle
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A lot of it right now is just character level, need more talent points peepoShrug
You also haven't spent any books in tab 1/2, I'm sure you have at least a few spare points.
A lot of DK power is tied to your refinery damage talent which requires 1.5x accuracy and refinery ranks, so it starts slowly and builds from there.
You have no obols or lab chips equipped, a mining star sign, and no PO boxes assigned

main kettle
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I think my chiz is allergic to dropping the blankey

bleak furnace
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wait a damn minute I had tghe w6 boss portal open all day b ut I was farming the 1mil kills lmao

strong nexus
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if i have my doot pet but haven unlock all my divinity does the one i haven unlock are activate and if im link to a bonus does it count 2 time?

bleak furnace
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what is this fight bntw what do the moles do?

bleak gazelle
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not the end of the world, you'll want to do those quests eventually

bleak gazelle
strong nexus
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and so now the question is should i just switch all my character who sit in divinity in lab now?

bleak gazelle
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Yep, you do still want to unlock Purrmep (tiger, 7th god) to link someone to him

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Usually your character with highest Divinity level

solar seal
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hot damn, got molten knucklers in 103M kills. ๐ŸŽ‰

bleak furnace
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bout to enter w6 and I only have w3 anvil unlocked xd'

solar seal
bleak furnace
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critters holding me back

strong nexus
bleak gazelle
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Minor blessings scale in strength with your divinity level (and Big P yellow bubble)

strong nexus
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well idk if the gaming speed blessing is really useful to me same for sailing speed

teal brook
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do i level aNything else but red salt here?

strong nexus
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12min/gaming circle is not that bad

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i mean how fast can it go in the end

bleak furnace
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I dont get sneaking at all lol its telling me lv up pending! login to this player?

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but im sneaking on the player?

sterile bison
strong shale
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so you can get excess of them too

raw oracle
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is td6 wave 50 doable with these towers?

hoary oracle
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hello

raw oracle
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hullo

strong shale
bleak gazelle
main kettle
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anyone knows why this happens

slim rose
main kettle
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Yep

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accuracy talent isnโ€™t it?

slim rose
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Yep

main kettle
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dang it

slim rose
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Shaquracy

strong shale
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PSA, redo your td waves once you level your towers up 10-12 levels youll get so many more waves

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soul gain STONKS

strong shale
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tower defense

bleak furnace
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o ye

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im strugging on the w3 one trying toi get more frost souls

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w30 boss is insane

slim rose
strong shale
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top tree stormcaller could help

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im redoing w4 and im going from 50-> 83+

ebon helm
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is BB the only elite class that doesn't have some way to improve enemy respawns, or did I miss something about them?

strong shale
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BlobSweat survived

solar seal
strong shale
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40 td waves is gonna be hooge for souls :d less soul locked pogg

ebon axle
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Whatโ€™s a good divinity level to go for before progressing w5

bleak gazelle
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at least arctis unlocked, whatever level you get it at peepoShrug and then you can take 1-2 people out while the rest keep on praying

strong shale
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40~!

solar seal
strong shale
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just maxed skilled dimwit the other day, gonna try for balance of pain -> midas minded

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should help hella with gmush kills

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havent started on my 5-10m kills on w1-4 yet EHEHE

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but ive done everything you wrote down for me to do @solar seal !

solar seal
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

strong shale
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except things that are bc im salt locked, ie traps + salt lick

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but i think this last red upgrade will put me in excess for the first 3 salts

steep kiln
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first one and he's good!

strong shale