lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[paper sail]

Sand Castles were a good Maestro farming map years ago. They're shit on DK

[solar flame]

generally speaking what should i spend killroy skulls on? are the shiny white pearls worth it?

[junior dune]

I would check what orb score you get on a few different maps. It is very important for gains and how good various maps are changes a lot depending on if you can sustain two statues or not

I think tysons have a significant advantage over all other maps if you don't have two statues at the same time yet.

[junior dune]

Alright, sounds reasonable. A lot of the things Griffy says seems to just be outdated or a bit weird

[solar seal]

i wouldn't say the pearls are worth it because class XP becomes easy to get and iirc, the pearls give
otherwise depends on where you are in game. if you haven't gotten the 1k checkout acheivement yet, you should funnel everything into books so you can get that faster
if you have gotten the 1k, and still are working on getting up to w5 territories unlocked and meals discovered, eggs and/or ladles are never a bad choice - especially in post-po6 nerf world where colo tickets are more precious

[bleak gazelle]

what div levels are your folks not in lab/div?

i would use mantra then

though purrmep is kind of good to unlock, too, so you could put one person on focus to keep gaining points

[solar flame]

im 202 on my highest character and about half way through the enemies of w5, whats a good level to stop grinding class exp, when will i be a relatively high enough level to handle boss, etc

[bleak shore]

why is lowest sailing time 2h? lava just felt like it or does it round up or smthin?

[bleak gazelle]

default is 2 hours but you can reduce it with a few things, but due to visual rounding it stays at 2 hours

[bleak gazelle]

You could potentially be ready now. Check first 📌 for some damage numbers for w5 boss. You can do it with less with most classes but it will take more and more time.

[strong shale]

Whats a decent growth timer to take cat off? Mines at 20 mins

Turn *

[rapid shale]

Never

Once you get to 5 second gaming plant growth there’s no reason to turn it off

[strong shale]

I see

[bleak gazelle]

honestly once you throw like 20 levels into no reason to turn it off either

[solar flame]

is the 50-80 mill range just base damage or crits?

this is where im sitting rn

[bleak gazelle]

max sheet damage

since that's the easiest way to consider talents and levels and people's crit levels are all over the place

[solar flame]

true true

[bleak gazelle]

i'd probably just keep pushing to boss and give it a try once you get a key

typically if you can kill the moles outside of boss room in 1-2 hits then you're fine

SB might take a bit more microing because of the spells it uses

[strong shale]

I feel SB should have a decent time against kruk for the first time

More rng

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, just gotta move to the left and right of the boss to kill moles

[solar flame]

my second best is ES, so i might try to train him up

[strong shale]

Yea

[bleak gazelle]

not a bad choice, either

[strong shale]

DK is goated against kruk

[solar flame]

bro my dk is so bad 😭

[strong shale]

Statue clearing both sides of moles

Sounds like u gotta book him

[solar flame]

my DK doesn't pull in any drop rate it feels like

[strong shale]

Well his orb is quite literally 1% drop rate every kill

[solar flame]

but maps wise

[strong shale]

It wont show visually but yea

[solar flame]

wait real quick besides statues what do people farm with DK

[strong shale]

The boomerang and the passive shockwave hits

[pastel heath]

kills exp money

[strong shale]

Oh u meant like drops

[pastel heath]

and rare drops

[strong shale]

Im an idiot LOL

[pastel heath]

lol agree

[strong shale]

Wtf?!

[simple wadi]

Admitting it is an important first step.

[pastel heath]

yes

[bleak gazelle]

DK is best for anything that drops from crystal mobs, including things in rare bags on mobs

[pastel heath]

if you belive and accept it your already 50% done with any task you set upon yourself

[bleak gazelle]

ES is best for things that don't drop from crystals, including things in rare bags that aren't in the crystal's drop table

[solar flame]

are you trying to get as many crystal mobs to spawn when DK farming?

[thin lark]

sheesh

[bleak gazelle]

typically yes, but that's not just for DKs

[strong shale]

Id think with any active farmer you are

[solar flame]

fair enough

crystal mob supremacy

[pastel heath]

🦉

[toxic saddle]

🦉

[pastel heath]

bro scared me thought you was a stranger for a sec

[strong shale]

What the owl

[toxic saddle]

I am 🦉

[strong shale]

oooo i see now

[pastel heath]

max lvl brainrot

[strong shale]

🦉

[pastel heath]

i got 2 new eldricth artifact now my Sb pushing 110T

got the onyx statue one and the summoning wins

[toxic saddle]

110T ain’t bad

[toxic saddle]

Hell yea

[pastel heath]

ik i get around 890k kills an hour at skydoggies with him rn

without any real prep

[toxic saddle]

Now that’s nice

[pastel heath]

in my books thats a W but sad thing is that im finisnhing getting everbody to divinity 80 rn and getting lab to like lvl 1600 total

bcs soon i will unlock the new jewels

[bleak gazelle]

DR setup and I'm getting like 5T on my SB

makin progress though

[thorn kindle]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53758237101_8c4128956f_o.png eyy

Ancienth

[pastel heath]

btw i also did like 350 normal kruk kills today and i got 0 pendants and 0 obols

only nice thing was the gems

[bleak gazelle]

why 350 though gems only drop from first 300/day

[toxic saddle]

Pendant and obols I’m assuming… as said in the message

Prolly just got tired after the 300

[pastel heath]

yes and i got extra keys

from the boss droping some

[bleak gazelle]

tbf i do like maybe 1 boss a week

[pastel heath]

welp this week i killed kruk over 1.2k times

[bleak gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-that-what-is-happening-sam-neill-remove-sunglasses-gif-15770358

[pastel heath]

and that mf still aint wanna drop a pendant

im going insane

but that 25%afk with a doubler (50%) would be sooo good for everything form skilling to fighting

and would juice up my prints

[little harbor]

is Orb its own DR multiplier, or just adds into the rest. if i have 20x DR now and getting 500% from orb, am i at 25x, or 100x?

same with ES Wormhole

[strong shale]

id assume its additive, if it was multiplicative it would be insane

[pastel heath]

its kinda not Dr at all

so imagine you have an Orb of 200 and Dr of 10x , You would kill the mob and then get the loot from the 10x droprate and then you would roll for that same loottable 2 times bcs of the 200 orb

so at the end with an orb of 200 you would get like 3loot drops from 1 kill

[bleak gazelle]

oh right, that's how it worked

[pastel heath]

but rigged in some kinda LavaFlame2 way

[pastel heath]

yeah thats why Dk go crazy in W6collo with that 1k orb score

[rapid shale]

doesnt work on w5/6 colo

[pastel heath]

sad

[bright meteor]

Btw 900k orbs

Done soon

[open mountain]

wdym 900k orbs

[toxic saddle]

Orb kills maybe?

[open mountain]

these?

[toxic saddle]

I think so 🤔

[pastel heath]

i only have like 1.4mil

[open mountain]

imagine not simping for the best ||currently available||class

[toxic saddle]

Couldn’t be you…

[pastel heath]

BM

[simple wadi]

200k kills until I'm done with SB achievement.

[bleak gazelle]

oh, going for 1m? aint you fancy

i'm at 38k

probably just gonna get to 100k and stop there for a while

[wanton obsidian]

I guess we back in rift

@bleak gazelle how far are you in rift btw?

[bleak gazelle]

uhh, 47?

[simple wadi]

After 51, it's all the same mission. 5m kills

[bleak gazelle]

currently need to defeat a giant mob on 2 more people then probably afk after that

oh, after that is rift tears

then from 49 on is afk

[wanton obsidian]

1 more to unlock ruby cards

I hate hate hate afking in rift

[bleak gazelle]

btw is that the 10hr afk prayer?

[wanton obsidian]

Yes I just removed it

I use it on my actives

[upper slate]

I'm 12 items short from 200 GS. What items should I go for and in which map?

[bleak gazelle]

time for some W1 crystal farm

[upper slate]

bean map?

[bleak gazelle]

I believe so

[open mountain]

always bean in w1

[steep kiln]

pizza, hotdog, mana pots go beans

[upper slate]

ok bean map then.

what about the rest?

[steep kiln]

How are your bar gstacks?

I did up to void

[bleak gazelle]

w2 sandy pots for the tier 8 group

[upper slate]

working on bronze vial now

[steep kiln]

Have you done any quest items?

[upper slate]

like 3what?

[upper slate]

no I missed the ketchup ones. the last 3 play botton I did

[steep kiln]

what about dogbones

and the rock thing

[upper slate]

no I haven't

[steep kiln]

there's also these ones I'm not sure if I'm going back for them

[upper slate]

I had those 3 open but I haven't farmed them

[steep kiln]

I'm currently farming bloodbones/crystals in W3 for these 4 myself

[zinc torrent]

hi what do i do 😭

[upper slate]

the ice leaf is gonna take a while

[steep kiln]

I dunno, I think I was at like 500k earlier today, going pretty quick

[strong shale]

theres a really good guide in the pins for divinity !

[teal brook]

Im really debating buying 4k greeen gems and praying doot or buy 8k normal gems no idea what best

[upper slate]

what's your DR?

[bleak gazelle]

But beyond what lowgun said, smash that 1% and pray probably

[upper slate]

go for 1% until you roll 100%

[steep kiln]

32

It may not be best best GS to for but I'm at 192 so running out of ideas

[wanton obsidian]

We're getting another class in w6 right?

[still apex]

We should be getting 3 of them, not all six

[wanton obsidian]

And the other 3 will be in w7?

[still apex]

I can't say

Probably not

[steep kiln]

this is what we know

[wanton obsidian]

Any ideas which classes will get the upgrade? From what I can see looks like ES

[still apex]

it'd make sense if we get BB, BM, and Bubo

[wanton obsidian]

Oh bubo?

[still apex]

Since they were the w4 skills

[wanton obsidian]

Oh yeah makes sense

Fingers crossed by next month we'll get a good update

[toxic saddle]

Really making us wait for those new classes…

[wanton obsidian]

He's gonna edge us by making it the last thing in the list

[still apex]

I'm just hoping the summoning fix happens soon. I'm frozen waiting for it.

[wanton obsidian]

What's the fix

[still apex]

It just crashes. Not from lag

[toxic saddle]

100%

[toxic saddle]

Yea… my game won’t let me do summoning 😂

[still apex]

The thing is it just suddenly happened one day. It wasn't an update that triggered it.

Not immediately at least

[wanton obsidian]

Is this for everyone?

[bleak gazelle]

just android i think?

[steep kiln]

I'm stoked for endless summoning. Summoning was a ton of fun but over too quick

[bleak gazelle]

imagine if worship TD was as good as summoning now

[junior dune]

I'm guessing you progressed further in summoning and the earlier battles aren't broken

[wanton obsidian]

Makes sense

[spice meadow]

It inst?

[junior dune]

It would be so easy to just add another scaling upgrade that isn't linear. Wouldn't have to change anything other than removing the insane wait times if you choose your function right

[bleak gazelle]

worship TD sucks. the time sink is fucking stupid

[steep kiln]

Take TD/Summoning I get to just place towers on the board

and monsters fly at my towers

would be super fun

[spice meadow]

Seems like a construction problem

[bleak gazelle]

i'm not even talking about at my level, some of the folks doing higher ones complain about it too

[strong shale]

plants vs zombies 🤣

w6 td at the end can take like 2-3 hours

[steep kiln]

I got to wave 140 and just quit because it was taking too long

[junior dune]

It isn't. You manage to kill enough to stall indefinitely and then you wait for hours for the bosses to die at high waves. It gets worse the higher you go

[strong shale]

golden pocketwatches move your weekly reset right?

[junior dune]

Nope but silver ones do

[strong shale]

ooo

[junior dune]

Huh, I guess my clock is slightly desynced

[spice meadow]

I dont use silver glocks

[junior dune]

Yep, my system clock was 37 seconds off some how

[spice meadow]

12Am is a good enough point

[strong shale]

i just want my weekly reset now 🤣

only 4 silvers :[

[spice meadow]

I think gave in a total of 27 free silver pocket watches

I have them rotting in my chest

[junior dune]

Can be nice at times. I sometimes use them when I do my daily boss kills right before the daily reset and need a bit more time

But, yeah not all that useful

[teal brook]

whould anyone mind talking a quick look at my IE? so lost after rushing too fast i think.
https://nils_peder.idleonefficiency.com

[strong shale]

Yea i time my reset to be around when i wake up

@solar seal im getting void coin drops now and crystals are dropping me 4 lustre at a time tysm ♡

[bleak gazelle]

is discord search dumb or did I never look at your IE previously?

[bleak gazelle]

test, sorry for the ping

[strong shale]

Old ace used to review ie's

[teal brook]

not sure if it was excactly you but someone did take a look maybe a lil more then a week ago

[bleak gazelle]

trying to see if I had any notes from last time to see the progress, but can't find it

I can't even see these two mentions I did just now

[teal brook]

nvm was around 3 weeks ago last time ie was checked

[strong shale]

Here

Right? Idk

Nvm im wrong

[bleak gazelle]

i ignored it

[strong shale]

Cant find any other links to your ie in this channel at least

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

Heres some notes from someone on your account

[arctic beacon]

how do I tackle divination? Rn this literally means 360h afk, there is no way I'm doing this right lol

[teal brook]

pablo gave me some notes abt 3 weeks ago those very helpful yeah

[fallow aurora]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[bleak gazelle]

well, you probably have like 7-9 chars on div, so it's a bit less in actual time

[pallid junco]

With the new future content post I think we can only assume that world 7 is owl themed.

[fallow aurora]

or its a new weekly boss

[pallid junco]

Mine is more likely

[fallow aurora]

it is in the roadmap

[pallid junco]

W7 owl themed is on the other side

[bleak gazelle]

need to do a few things real quick then i'll give yours a look over

i mean, i'm down with owl theme

[teal brook]

thats completely fine thank you for even bothering

[pallid junco]

I'm hoping for subclasses or the shaman summoning stones next. It seems too early for W7.

[fallow aurora]

everyone wants the new subclasses but its probably gonna be last

[pallid junco]

Well I think W7 will be last

[teal brook]

i am hoping lava adds proximity chat everyone when happyhouur comes screaming

[fallow aurora]

w8 is gonna be last

[pallid junco]

Weekly battles seem extremely boring. Otherwise everything else on the list would be fun

[fallow aurora]

doesn't half the players mute the game?

I always have it muted

[teal brook]

🤫

[pallid junco]

I heavily doubt it. Why would W8 not get any updates unlike other worlds?

[teal brook]

people will unmute for that pArty

[junior dune]

Doubt it. He will probably continue until it stops printing money or he don't want to continue

[teal brook]

if its profitabel keep doing it until it aint

[fallow aurora]

he has stated that idleon will get 8 worlds

just search from:lavaflame2 world 8

[pallid junco]

Lava lies

[junior dune]

He has said a lot of stuff. Likely that was the plan at some point though

[fallow aurora]

#idleon-gen-chat message if only

[teal brook]

lava said w8 could come end 2022

[simple wadi]

He said in his livestream that 8 worlds would be the minimum. After that, it's up to him if he starts another project or not.

[solar seal]

👍

[strong shale]

Also lava skulled them, i really should get more gstacks today but im so lazy

Pushing w6 is just easier on my thinky brain

[zinc torrent]

sample and let printer gs them

[strong shale]

Well the gstacks being all w1 mob mats :p

[viscid mulch]

is it alr to go after soverign artis like furi before turtle vial? (i have a 0.01% chance to get it)

[lethal aspen]

you can try but 0.01% probably is even less than that, its just the lowest it can display

[viscid mulch]

ah ic

[short sparrow]

ELDRITCH FURY YOOOO

[bleak gazelle]

@teal brook (so I can maybe find this message later)
I would prioritize

• A bit of a different first step than normal, you're about 70 class levels away from a 9th character. Your last character is only level 77 and you have a number of people in the low 100s. Pick your poison and push to 1100 account level to get that 9th character so you can throw them into Div
• Speaking of Div, I'd probably have just one person out of the altar until you get your 9th character or get Goat/Mantra, you're probably super close. I'd still probably keep people on Focus until Purrmep, but swapping to Mantra at 15 is a possibility, too.
• Next, back to the usual, work on getting your Vman to rank 1 in W1-3 gathering skills, he's close, but the higher he is, the more room you have for other characters to get higher levels for bigger prints.
• Then, sample. Actually, go ahead and sample now, one character is missing samples and that's some easy copper ore. Also, fix the two samples you're printing. Remove your current print (the center column, don't delete your sample!) and reselect it to get the higher value.

Then, I would look at

• Trickz' backtracking guide https://imgur.com/c1RhPXA
• I would focus on W1-3 constellations and anvil materials from W1-3 first, then probably start working on cards and obols. We can talk more about that later
• I would also make sure all your characters have tools, your last one is missing a worship skull, your Bubo/BM are missing cards, and your BM/2nd DK are missing a second star sign
• Once you've resampled (and before), keep working on alchemy. A good goal for now is unlocking all your w5 bubbles and getting your first bubbles to 200 and second to 150. You can use Autoreview to help you with getting to efficiency breakpoints with certain bubbles
• Get meals to level 11 for Diamond Chef

Other considerations

• Forge - empty
• Construction - stop building poison, pump library, spend books
• Buy one instagrow in W6 if you have gems

[solar seal]

i'm on refuse review duty for a few days, glad ace is picking it up

[fallow aurora]

holy moly

I wish I could write essays without getting bored

[worldly lagoon]

o.o

wanna give me a review?

[strong shale]

Fun fact, if you go back on some of the reviews you can look at your own ie and see where we've mentioned peoples lacking in certain areas and apply it to your own !

[solar seal]

my man has a 6B log print, he's good w/o a review, he's just yankin your chain

[worldly lagoon]

don't you judge me

[bleak gazelle]

Umm something something, more active BM

[worldly lagoon]

that's actually next on my to-do list xD

[strong shale]

Wow

How rude :[

[bleak gazelle]

nailed it, best reviewer in house

[strong shale]

I actually had no idea why people actived bm, then i noticed the vman talent 🤣

Im here like man, breeding sure is slow as hell

[still apex]

It's still not amazing. Supposedly the best it gets is 3 bonus breeding hours per hour fighting.

[worldly lagoon]

there are so many shiny leveling bonus's now with last 2 colors released

[solar seal]

yeah ^ it jsut went from small zoom to brr brr brr

[worldly lagoon]

lvl 13 seems pretty easy i wonder if i can push to 15 on these

[olive drift]

Level 17 is like not too far

[fickle badge]

any 1 know what class is the best at getting eclipse skulls time candy wise? Was thinking sb since forge procs

[still apex]

ES might get a little more multikill from the active wizard talent. But SB gets higher sheet damage generally. The forge procs aren't a selling point, but they can't hurt.

[fickle badge]

Yea was thinking the same

[bleak gazelle]

candy, he said

ahh, wait, that talent

[still apex]

Ye

[bleak gazelle]

i'd probably just go with SB for the forge procs honestly

[fickle badge]

Getting godshard bars gonna take so long lol

[bleak gazelle]

mhmm, so every little bit helps

[fickle badge]

might have to candy godshard cards first then do gsb grind

[solar seal]

only thing i would throw in is if you haven't schowed, could candy that while you are at it

[fickle badge]

o true

thanks yall much appreicated

[solar seal]

it won't be most efficient, but prob most useful along w/ the bars

[fickle badge]

yea def

cooking speed always nice

[whole slate]

What's Ur shiny speed

[worldly lagoon]

i don't even know where i can find that

[whole slate]

Ie or it go to breeding then shines should see shiny speed over there

[worldly lagoon]

i checked, don't see it

[bleak gazelle]

on IT. I'm assuming this is what he means

[strong shale]

Is the meta for shiny pet breeding to level the rate first?

[worldly lagoon]

im gonna wait til i cap out the farming bonus before i actually active BM

[worldly lagoon]

that's what im doing all my rate dudes are 11-12 and rest of my pets are 5

[solar seal]

like cooking, speed usually always best when done first

[worldly lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/sanic-the-hedgehob-running-gotta-go-fast-fast-gif-4964355

[solar seal]

accurate depiction of shiny leveling in idleon

[whole slate]

Tbh I maxed out my inf sign pets just so that I wouldn't have to deal with that bullshit again

[worldly lagoon]

what do you mean maxed out? XD what level? mine are all 8

[whole slate]

Like all lvl 13

[zinc torrent]

for sailing its best to prioritize speed right

[bleak gazelle]

Yes, you'll probably want speed/speed or speed/loot for quite a while

[zinc torrent]

how do i get more treasure space

[bleak gazelle]

Once your boats start being able to hit the last island reasonably well you can go towards loot/loot

[strong shale]

Got a 54 total speed captain today 8)

[zinc torrent]

and was it a bad idea to use a bunch of bottled wind early on

[bleak gazelle]

Right away, probably not the best, but it is what it is. First island has good artifacts

[strong shale]

You get so much bottled winds from w1 map 1 quest that any that you used shouldnt be too detrimental

[zinc torrent]

yeah i got 2 of them

[bleak gazelle]

Uhh, more chest slots from gem shop, achievements, and merits?

[strong shale]

Merits, gem shop, artifact

[zinc torrent]

ohhh right i forgot to check the gem shop, i have so many left over gems from whaling

[strong shale]

Using a few bottled winds early to get some early ships is not a bad idea in the slightest

But best used when you have as many ships as you can obv

[solar seal]

i'll disagree with acecow... its actually not terrible early. later on, you'll get a lot of bonuses from golden hampter, po box, etc. where you end up being able to duplicate your afk time into sailing/gaming. so you can do rotations of ships making winds less useful later on.

[zinc torrent]

yeah but i used like 10 lol

[whole slate]

Nighty night guys cya tomorrow

[strong shale]

Thats a few

[zinc torrent]

10 of the 11 i had

[zinc torrent]

alr

[strong shale]

The divinity pig + suggma questline gives a ton

[zinc torrent]

oh my god

[bleak gazelle]

I think it'd be worth it once you get 2-3 ships, though using it early on does help you get there faster, too

[zinc torrent]

i only just realized using wind also does the time for captains i wasted that

[bleak gazelle]

oh does it?

[strong shale]

Nah it doesnt do that

[zinc torrent]

rly

[strong shale]

Thats on your daily reset

[zinc torrent]

nah my daily reset was 3 hours ago

[strong shale]

Ive used like 20 bottled winds yesterday and it never reset my captain shop

[zinc torrent]

idk how i get another captain then

[strong shale]

You leveled up

[zinc torrent]

ohh does leveling reset it?

[strong shale]

Probably? Maybe?

[zinc torrent]

fair enough lol

[strong shale]

Leveling reset something for me in another skill, couldnt tell you which though i forget xd

Well when i refreshed something

[solar seal]

i don't think it does, but i'll just leave it. you are thinking of unlocking god resetting unlinks

[zinc torrent]

i dont really get gaming, is it another one like trapping where i just check it once a day

[strong shale]

Nah you can check it more times as you get more plants and such, the early is pretty slow

[bleak gazelle]

i mean, buying a new thing of minigames/day and teleports/day reset you to full iirc, so it might be the same with sailing if you unlock a new spot it just rolls everything

[zinc torrent]

should i wait until the plants are fully grown?

[solar seal]

if you haven't yet, buying 1 level of the golden sprinkler helps early gaming to speed it up a bit

[zinc torrent]

oh i literally just said im gonna check w5 gem shop and then i didnt im so real

[solar seal]

not really. gaming is kind of just hit collect all when you remember its there

[zinc torrent]

should i get more than 1? or should i get other stuff, max treasure is prob good to get right

[solar seal]

that's between you and your wallet. i try not to comment on too much 💳 other than a few really good priorities

[zinc torrent]

i have 1800 gems rn

also should i wait on using fertilizer or is that fine to use up early

[zinc torrent]

isnt there a command for the gem shop tier list can someone do it pls 😭

[fallow aurora]

!gemshop its outdated tho

[strong shale]

Thats hella outdated

[zinc torrent]

isnt there a not outdated one

[strong shale]

LOL theres nothing from w5 in there

I just hopped out of the shower but i believe kaito or ace have one

Id recommend 1 golden sprinkler, 2 divinity sparkles and whatever else in sailing loot

[lethal aspen]

Just search tony gemshop

[strong shale]

But the sailing loot can come later cuz u dont have many ships

[zinc torrent]

tyty

[fallow aurora]

not sure if this is outdated or not but its better than that one

[zinc torrent]

i was just gonna go check the griffy vid lol

[strong shale]

Griffy vid isnt bad

Just use your own judgement with how much you wanna spend

[zinc torrent]

this seems to not have w6 but good thing i dontneed it

[strong shale]

Scoli autoreview can help you too if you use ie

Right but with w6 comes different things that u should prio

[zinc torrent]

yeah

[strong shale]

The gaming sprouts too

Those are good, if you have the gems you need 1 at least for equinox

Early on they can carry you

[zinc torrent]

sluggy boy :3

[zinc torrent]

ohhh right i need to go afk on rams for like 3 days

ill do that after im done trying to get early divinity

[strong shale]

dont rush equinox until you can do it lol, albeit i did active rams on my ES for that portal

red and new stamp https://i.imgur.com/U8Evrxa.png

rofl i dont even have those essences unlocked yet

[solar seal]

a salute farewell to my kunai. thank you for freeing my ninja twins 🫡

[strong shale]

best place to farm power statues? i have 20k of some statues i wanna put on the statue man :[

[lethal aspen]

are you chocchipd

[strong shale]

no

[lethal aspen]

then you can't really farm it

[stuck river]

Power statues should be carrotman/bored bean

[lethal aspen]

just deposit them until you get chocchip, no point delaying atm

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/BrfJc2g.png

[stuck river]

[ebon helm]

so being new to W5, should I put almost everyone who isn't locked up in the lab into divinity, except for like 1 DK pushing?

[lethal aspen]

see you in a month

[stuck river]

I recommend es but yes

I used a dk in w4 and decided to slap my level 89 es to push w5

[ebon helm]

I was about to protest my 40 level spread, but my es is 140

[solar seal]

have you had a chance to read through the divinity primer? it lays out some good groundwork and planning re: lab vs. divinity

[strong shale]

levels dont matter when you enter a new world, just get enough survival to 100% and use a 1h candy youll gain 30 levels

[stuck river]

Can confirm

[ebon helm]

yeah, and the lab/divinity was my main conclusion, my es's just unlocked style 2 so that's progress

[solar seal]

i shifted to ES as my main in W5 cause double link really saved me a lot of headache in terms of planning

[stuck river]

I personally find es pushing the easiest

[stuck river]

I used snake/insect double link feels stupid

[solar seal]

ES also is very good for getting your first kruk kill so added benefit

[junior dune]

Vman pushing is also an alternative

[stuck river]

Also easy damage scaling and thunder is insane with like 1580% damage scaling at level 100

[junior dune]

Not necessarily a good one though

[stuck river]

Walter

[ebon helm]

I've still got 30 levels on my m man before I can even start the quest

[solar seal]

i'm lazy so i was always bear primary - shift secondary for wahtever i'm doing at the time

[stuck river]

I was snake/bear for the majority of the time

[bleak gazelle]

probably gonna be maestro pushing cause idk if any of them have vman

[junior dune]

Even better then!

And if you don't have any one else going to kruk before getting vman they will get a nice surprise when they get it

[solar seal]

you made me curious...

i need to go deposit some of these

[junior dune]

I deposit much more often when I have a lack of storage space

Which basically means when I have many lucky lads

[solar seal]

i'm like 1/3 of way to my 1st luckier lad

[junior dune]

Best storage upgrade in the game

[icy pulsar]

you will not get it

[paper sail]

Damn, rude

[icy pulsar]

you gotta be a real hater to understand

[strong shale]

at what point should i buy snail

[bleak gazelle]

yes

[junior dune]

Asap

[strong shale]

well, what reasonable bit gain should i have before i save 🤣

or is it just that good that i should save asap

[paper sail]

Depends more on how much you're checking and clicking

1-3 days of saving is worthwhile imo

[strong shale]

okay so i could prob get it today then 🤣

[paper sail]

Definitely do that then

[strong shale]

i have 10 ferts and atm 8 chem plants that im just rotating

[bleak gazelle]

ferts

[junior dune]

In the beginning it is a free bit gain doubler every few days

[bleak gazelle]

i have 41, maybe i should use those

[solar seal]

i was confused what bubo had to do w/ gaming.. then realized you didn't say farts

[strong shale]

just got ancient on the last bit gain artifact so figured i may as well try for it, since it doubled my multiplier

https://i.imgur.com/ZyCPI14.png

[icy pulsar]

i have unfortunate news

[strong shale]

[bleak gazelle]

oh right, i got eldritch trilobite yesterday so i need to redo my boats

[analog hemlock]

For snail encouragement does the encourage only affect current snail lv up or it stays boosted for the life time?

[bleak gazelle]

only that rank

[analog hemlock]

Thanks

[echo gulch]

Guysshould i wait for the egg rarity to increase to get good new pet bonus or just open them whenever possible

[bleak gazelle]

just roll

if it's natural waiting time (like you sleeping or can't play) that's fine, but same with plant mutations. # chances > rarity of chances

Bruh, can't even take all your captains out at once

[solar seal]

wdym?

[bleak gazelle]

only space for 13 boats

i wanted to rearrange all 20

i may not actually need to, but having the option would be nice

[solar seal]

oh kek. prob need to do it in batches

[bleak gazelle]

yo, i can get at least 1 boat to last island in 2 hours

[short sparrow]

What speed do u have for that?

[strong shale]

yay https://i.imgur.com/ffVkew5.png

[zinc torrent]

how much is 🐌 again?

[bleak gazelle]

alright, 3 boats going to last island, one is somewhere above 2 hours

[solar seal]

611b green bits

[crimson marsh]

I can't remember, what's the best class for skull rifts?

in terms of just leaving it on auto and relying on rng

[sly spoke]

i just unlocked the shovel in gaming and got the gold nugget thing in the corner, can someone explain what it is tho

[bleak gazelle]

SB, then maybe bubo > es

[crimson marsh]

Thank you

Just realized I asked in the wrong channel, but thanks for answering 🙂

[bleak gazelle]

For now it's basically just click shovel when it sparkles and pray for a larger nugget. Your nugget value is a direct bit multiplier and can only go up. Later on you'll unlock more multipliers to make it a bit less RNG

[bleak gazelle]

No worries, rift is more of a w5+ thing anyway

[sly spoke]

oh sweet ill have to test it out next plant i get, also for gaming whats the go to with plants? just harvest them on tier 1 asap or leave them and let them grow?

[bleak gazelle]

Super early on it's kind of up to you. Don't let plants sit to try and force an evolution though, that's never really worth it

Once you unlock Kitsune rock and throw some levels into it, you typically just want to keep it on all the time

I guess technically the best method for now is to make sure your plants dont cap because you need # of harvests to roll for mutations

For the first ~5 mutations you can stockpile some harvests before rolling, but as you get to the later ones, it'll be better to just clear the board and roll as often as possible

Quantity > quality because the % chance increase is pretty bad

[crimson marsh]

Also, there's a mirror world buff that gives stacking chance for a better nugget

[sly spoke]

mmkay thank you for the help guys

[rough crest]

so if i am waiting to unlock a new evo from a plant, should just let it sit there growing with the kitsune stone active?

[bleak gazelle]

Nah, the only time i'd let it sit is overnight or when you can't check. If you're active, just keep claiming so you can roll for mutations...or just for the bits in general

Log book gives barely more than 1x multiplier per plant found

It's pretty trash

[rough crest]

ah, then i wont worry and just claim

[bleak gazelle]

The first 4 of each should be gotten pretty easily with regular play and then the 5th will come naturally with more speed

Now tier 6-8 you do probably want to let it sit to force it to evolve, but that's much later down the line and gaming is a bit different then

[rough crest]

i was more worried on the 6th

[bleak gazelle]

Ah, for that, what's your cycle speed at?

[rough crest]

19.8m
3.6m with kitsune on

[bleak gazelle]

I honestly probably wouldn't bother unless you feel like manually claiming everything all the time to try and save it

[lethal aspen]

if your that late probably no diff kitsune on/off. I'd just leave it on

[bleak gazelle]

You can probably pop into w6 for more specifics, but I think a lot of later log book evolutions are happening with 5s/instant gaming

[rough crest]

hmm i see, im only in the early stages of red bits, so i dont have the evo from the gaming superbits, but i have the evo from the W6 sneaking for the 6th mutation

[bleak gazelle]

Only 8 more boats to figure out where to send

[rough crest]

hope we can get a form of multi select for sailing, granted the manual is not hard on steam but on mobile it can be rough when ya fat finger it

[bleak gazelle]

I just wish you could see all 20 boats at the dock at once

checked sneaking and wondered why my jade was so low, lul

most of them are like 40% detection

[gentle furnace]

buy 2 timeskips and gamba

any lotus is a win

[bleak gazelle]

oh is this lotus floor?

i'll do it tomorrow, just got off

think i have one in the bank, so maybe i'll wake up to some

[tight pilot]

floor 11 is gonn be worse

im stuck there cuz of how long it takes to break the door

[sharp glacier]

So I'm trying to unlock goat god

And I got the 100% option but at my current divinity points rate

It would take 13 days to get there

[simple wadi]

Finally hit my goal of getting above 7K stealth modifier from blue gems. Now to see if I can actually make some progress again.

[gilded sedge]

This might be a rare wrong chat moment

[sharp glacier]

Should I just go for smaller rolls?

Also the values that are displayed on boats for speed, loot etc are including the bonuses from the respective captains or do you have to do those yourself?

[spring yarrow]

Depends, if you go for smaller rolls it could take even longer to get to goat god,

[still apex]

If it takes that long for 100% it could take a similar amount of time on small rolls. 100% is just safer

[spring yarrow]

the price rises linearly with the percentage iirc

[sharp glacier]

Oh

Ig ill try getting my divinity points up in the meantime

[sharp glacier]

Also can someone tell me bout this?

[still apex]

They include their current captain

[sharp glacier]

Okay thanks!

[spring yarrow]

Thanks for reminding me to check sailing

Got ancient jade rock B)

[wide swallow]

hello am i ready for world 5 boss yet ?

[still apex]

If your attack talents are okay that damage should be good

[wide swallow]

not bad just 4 mil

i should get it with the green weapon

just need more bunnies

[spring yarrow]

Why no points into flask?

[junior dune]

It's probably doable now with some luck.

Symbols of beyond in bottom right is a very good talent. I would recommend moving points over to it from the tiny damage increase to the left of it

Then you can invest one point in all remotely relevant talents to get a bunch of lvls nearly for free

[wide swallow]

oh yeah worm whole is only giving my like 2 weapon power okey noted ty

[wide swallow]

on it rn i forgot abt it lmao

good way to put some points in teh first tab cuz i have so many

[spring yarrow]

Ah okay, I was wondering if I was fucking up this entire time lmfao

[junior dune]

You can snapshot the flask. If you max it and then reset your points your increased max lvl will still be there

If you lvl up the bubble you will need to have the bottle lvled again for it to update though

[wide swallow]

hmm do i have to put points into overclocked energy first then reset or no ?

[junior dune]

I don't believe you have to put points into it

Was a while since I had to bother min maxing talent point so I don't really remember

[lethal aspen]

btw if your still here using bear/nobi with ES 2nd link wud be more dmg

[wide swallow]

lmao ty guys

[wide swallow]

how many points into it to get either

[lethal aspen]

2 for bear, 3 for nobi i think?

[wide swallow]

i have the snake god is it even more damage ?

[lethal aspen]

snake gives 0 dmg i thought?

yeah snake is accuracay/defence lmao

bear probably best for more talent lvls overall

[crimson thistle]

arctis is every x1

so 01,11 etc

[wide swallow]

lmso i thought i had the one that gives total damage lol bonus

ill work on it later i just used my last talen refresh sadly

[lethal aspen]

go stand under elephant to unlevel the 2nd god thing

[still apex]

Top far left god spot

[wide swallow]

didnt work

i have nobi sect as the main god im linked to is it way ?

so i go for bear then

[strong shale]

1 is bear 2 is nobi

as 0 is snake

[wide swallow]

thats one point right not one point above 10

[strong shale]

correct

[crimson thistle]

it cycles

[strong shale]

anything ending in 1. So 1, 11, 21, 31, 41 etc

[lethal aspen]

😅 my ES is permanently on bear so i forget what number exactly

[wide swallow]

it worked lmao

it gave me plus 4 for everything

[lethal aspen]

only gets better as you level up, do you use the big P bubble/have all bubbles?

[strong shale]

fuckin 80-90% detection rate on almost all of my guys on the lotus floor but i cant get any bombs, might just brute force and hope i get a few flowers

[lethal aspen]

what gear you using?

[strong shale]

veils + bomb

my main guy has a scroll of power + veil

[lethal aspen]

do you have the doublestacking upgrade yet?

[strong shale]

nah

[lethal aspen]

rip just rng then

[lethal aspen]

and this is after floor nerf lmao

[pearl wyvern]

can anyone tell me what to chose first

[lethal aspen]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[wide swallow]

RAAAAAAAH

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/VJyh8CJ.png
https://i.imgur.com/CBBNCR2.png

and thats with 8? other dudes with bombs

[lethal aspen]

thats ok

[strong shale]

2nd highest is 79% rate

bc no scroll of power

[lethal aspen]

mastery 2 soontm for me, up to floor 11 but door is 16QQ

[strong shale]

i was considering leveling them more on the floor below but i just said fuck it lotus

[lethal aspen]

tbh you probably do want to do that, lotus isnt as big as rosary

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/SKKklkA.png

[lethal aspen]

its not multiplicative so just a higher level bomb if u want to consider it that

[strong shale]

this is my setup 🤣

[wide swallow]

RAHHHHHHHHH

xd

[lethal aspen]

welcome to w6 in advance

no jail skills for once

love your name 100%

[wide swallow]

real

[strong shale]

ok i moved everyone down, ig ill try and get em all gloves from there

[lethal aspen]

and a better nunchuck while you can

[strong shale]

my best nunchuck is 44/46

46 being my max

[lethal aspen]

idk how sneaking works now anyway

think theres some meals for exp, idk any other sneak sources

[strong shale]

summoning 🙃

[lethal aspen]

at least its nerfed now, how your summoning look

[drowsy sage]

Reached world 5 now what?

[strong shale]

pins

[lethal aspen]

go into divinity altar, see you in 1 month

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/mMevvdr.png

[drowsy sage]

Do i have to put all my characters there?!

[strong shale]

all but 1 if u wanna push w5

[late copper]

even if you want to push w5, unlock god 2 at least

[strong shale]

i rocked enough in lab to get brightside and pushed with my dk while the rest were on divinity

im also inefficient so

[lethal aspen]

tbh thats what i did on w5 launch too

[crimson thistle]

for the afk kill rifts can that be multiple characters?

[strong shale]

yep

also dont think i can do anymore summoning battles w/ the stats i have since ive just been putting everything into essence gain

maxed out dodge chance though

[lethal aspen]

where ur purple summoning rock

[strong shale]

wdym

i just got to blue a few days ago 🤣

[lethal aspen]

the one after blue

[strong shale]

its unlockable

if i were to get 250k blue

[lethal aspen]

ah right blue doesnt have a alchemy bubble (doubt u have them anyway)

[strong shale]

i do

[lethal aspen]

the stamp counts tho

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/PnnZ0xh.png

though i dont have the souls to level it up 🤣

the purple one that is

[trim venture]

is there a gaming snail guide?

[trim venture]

thank you

[strong shale]

i was wondering how im not level 300 catching skill mastery then i checked ie https://i.imgur.com/3NAvQM4.png

im actually cringing LOL

[lethal aspen]

at least its not your bm/other sb

[strong shale]

true ! https://i.imgur.com/u0BtlER.png

[lethal aspen]

[strong shale]

gonna get those passive cards then catch in equinox for 3 total catches and hit 30 on em

[stable whale]

Working on those VW skills

[oblique zinc]

Does the void quest give different items if i forfeit and retake it

[chilly siren]

what void quest ?

you mean voidwalker reward ?
all quest reward are one time only

[oblique zinc]

Wait i mean the quest for the rift

Is it different my bad

[drowsy sage]

Should i put everyone in divinity except my es or literally everyone has to go in divinity

?

[slate flare]

Is there an easy way to unlock chemical plant in gaming or do you just need a lot of luck?

[silent drum]

keep clickin

[gentle furnace]

keep tryin at 0.1%

[slate moss]

Do you get reduced divinty xp when you using goat god/lab sitting?

9 hours of 8 people on mantra only got me 52 div xp

[teal brook]

at what point can chemical plant even show up?

[teal brook]

depends on your xp multi

[slate moss]

8x9 is 72 tho, it can be reduced ?

I also have the gem shop thats supposed to boost xp gain for div

[teal brook]

should say in the derscription of goat weird

[slate moss]

This is what it says when i sit on the altar, not sure how 8 mantra becomes 5 xp a hour

Especially when i should 150% boost to xp gain lol

[gentle furnace]

!mantra

[obtuse orbit]

Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.

In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.

(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)

[gentle furnace]

and the exp on afk info is after all multis that you have

[slate moss]

I see thats a weird way of doing it but good to know the xp is happeing just doesnt show

[past grove]

Anyone else not seeing the new calling card and wings not in slab?

[tropic sedge]

When it comes to farming strung tooth of the divine, what's better? Chaotic or normal difficulty spamming?

current droprate: 20.12x

[silent drum]

technically normal gives you more chances

but it'll take way longer

[gentle furnace]

normal, just do 300 runs daily and you'll eventually get plenty of em

[slate flare]

Chemical Plant is just the last one in the Mutation sector, with very low chance to unlock

[tribal urchin]

whats the best difficulty to farm strung teeth from kruk? I do also need a cape to drop for the quest so im thinking ES on nightmare for a while?

[steep kiln]

Best is normal, for your sanity do the one up. I get the names mixed up.

[tribal urchin]

chaotic but i hard agree with that choice

[steep kiln]

But yeah if you want the trophy farm the 70 key one

Depends on if you want trophy more or teeth more

[tribal urchin]

need like 7 more strung teeth for all on divine scarf - might try farming trophy for a while then switch up if one drops

*cape

[steep kiln]

Last time I tried for trophy I did 5k keys got two teeth one wings. Unlucky I think, given i got two other wings in less

[tropic sedge]

when you farmed the keys with ES, how many keys per day were you averaging?

[steep kiln]

I didn't farm with ES. Most were from active farm bubo for CC and DK for 100k golden hampters

I didn't keep track tho

[tribal urchin]

jeeeeeeez 5k keys - think ive only done 500 so far and got 3 teeth

[sly cedar]

oh they split w5 and w6 chat back up

im glad

[tropic sedge]

lucky, I think im over 8k keys in, no teeth yet

[tribal urchin]

wow thats harsh - i mustve really gotten lucky yesterday got like 3 in 5 nightmare runs

[tropic sedge]

what's your DR at?

[tribal urchin]

17.5x

[sly cedar]

oh god, please tell me the new content spoiler is an npc and not a companion

[steep kiln]

Random tip for anyone that needs it , I didn't clue into for a while, you can roll the obols to 6% afk gains.

[tropic sedge]

oh snap, nice

[tribal urchin]

i actually didnt think about rerolling boss obols

[steep kiln]

Yeah if you run 4 in family and one on personal that's 5% afk gains which is pretty big

[tribal urchin]

even luckier than the strung teeth is i got 3 of them while doing it on all my characters for the final w5 task, so a lot of them had shitty droprate

[sly cedar]

woop woop almost enough hampsters for all 10 t5 weapons

then i can move onto troll armour upgrade

ES doing some serious heavy lifting

and im 80% through rift schow yay, can put bb back in the kitchen soon

[steep kiln]

Hampters and golden twine were the annoying farmable parts of that grind

[sly cedar]

yeah

cookig clogs will be kinda annoying too just coz of inventory management

[teal wyvern]

Clogs are fast on es, just filter out caps and you will have full inv in like 2 hours of farm

[coral rain]

Guys I have a problem

I got to kattlekruk's map and I do 9.3m damage on my ES but I can't do any damage to Kattlekruk... how do I increase my damage
(Pls don't mention upgrading staffs because I can't get frigid souls very well right now)

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=Shadows_atomic

https://shadows_atomic.idleonefficiency.com/

[sterile bison]

Firstly you should unlock daily boss keys for w1-3 on all your characters

And your alchemy and stamps could use work

Also missing most jewels and a lot of the lab bonuses is hurting ya, I know jewels take time but you can probably get the lab bonuses

Also missing a bunch of sailing bonuses that give damage

[sterile bison]

You are missing and or have very low tier damage cards as well

And you don’t even have those cards equipped

And no damage constellations

You are starting to reach the point in the game where you have unlocked a ton and now you need to go back and do a lot of it

[balmy condor]

which god is better for sampling mobs with voidwalker? The snake

[fast wolf]

u cant beat kruk with 9m dmg

like 25m minimum

i beat it with 27 and it still took like an hr

at 30m it cuts to 5-10min

[junior dune]

I'm not that confident what is easy and what is not this early in the game anymore, but it feels like just going through area by area and make sure to grab some easy to get buffs is the play. Equipping proper star signs and cards, not having three healing foods, reallocating some talent points to symbols of beyond and chainbolt and putting books on any damage boosting talents on the earlier tabs are my quickest suggestions though.

[fast wolf]

get more stamps

that doubled my dmg when i did

[junior dune]

Yeah the es stamp boost is big and easy to get high earlier than many others. It's one of the reasons why ES is great for the w5 push

Also I can recommend checking out https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203 if you haven't already

[strong nexus]

if i try to get gem is it better to do 5 normal dongeon or 1 chaotic dongeon or they equivalent

[junior dune]

All boss kills give the same amount of gems regardless if it's normal, chaotic or nightmare

[sterile bison]

So normal cause less keys

[junior dune]

Yep

I've been doing chaotic kruk for cards now, but that is a bit of a pain

[sterile bison]

I think I finally got most of my chaotic to 5 stars not sure I’m gonna bother trying for nightmare

[strong nexus]

ok time to blow all my 400 sand key on runing normal efraunt (i just finish 250 doo

[junior dune]

Nightmare is a pain. Thought I would do efaunt before po6 nerf though

[sterile bison]

You can only get 300 boss gems per day

[junior dune]

Around 220 gems from 300 kills

[strong nexus]

ah ok 300 is already good

[sterile bison]

Po nerf was rough Im hoping there’s new ways to get tickets

[strong nexus]

but i go more than 300 gem doing my doo

[sterile bison]

Not sure what that means but there was a semi recent nerf put on boss gems

[strong nexus]

40 doo ja eye =351 gem

[sterile bison]

I think the nerf was for world bosses

[strong nexus]

maybe i haven start on wb just doing mini presently i have mon of eye stacked

i just know doing all those doo give me so many sand key

gething 6 key for 1 doo

[junior dune]

I wouldn't stack tons of biggie hours and doot kills. That is the most obvious gem source to nerf now

[strong nexus]

im just lazy i normally just buy my 2 eyes a day and dont think to much about it but i just unlock fractal island so i needed candy so i decide to do the work

[sterile bison]

I think doot at least is already nerfed cause of the eyes

[junior dune]

Well DR is less effective on candy and gems iirc since around W6 release so it is nerfed, but still good

[strong nexus]

its sound a bit hard to me to get 300 key in a day

event for troll and kruk

[sterile bison]

It’s across all bosses so technically you’d only need 270 from kruk or troll cause you get 30 for the w1-3 bosses, but it takes active ES with a pretty high DR

[junior dune]

It is a bit over 200 kruk keys when you account for keys dropped from the boss

It will get easier and easier

[sharp glacier]

What should my kills/hr be on bullfrogs so that I can start farming

Pop obols?

[strong nexus]

its not really that i have so much stuff to buy whit gem but w6 stuff is kinda costy

[short sparrow]

Hoping I can get this refinery equinox dream done today so I can finally get the nugget upgrade

[glad gull]

Hello guys , is there any way to see the base speed and loot value for a boat , the data displayed is the value of both the boat and the captain

[warm pike]

doo😭

[solar seal]

for sailing, !IT or !IE provide significantly better UI and information. otherwise, if you divide your captains values by their levels, you will get what their base value is.

[solar seal]

so long as you are one shotting, you are good to go. bullfogs are step 1 of the entire DR process: prepping cards, dr, card dr, obols... so its threshold is fairly low, all things considered

generally i'd say to wait until you have your elite classes, as they make farming + built in DR with skills, much faster to do. particularly on an ES for bullfrogs

[coral rain]

https://shadows_atomic.idleonefficiency.com/
What should I make my ES farm?

[sharp glacier]

I already have es and I'm midway through w5 rn

And I get around 30k kills an hr

But I feel like it takes forever to get even one obol to drop

[solar seal]

its sort of an egg/chicken process. need the DR to make the farm easier, but need the obol to make the DR higher. its one of those things that will start painfully slow and picks up as you've build it up. given your spot, if you have a choco chip already, it might be easier getting your dice first on DK in W2. but this highly depends on your card/crystal situation

[sharp glacier]

Choco chip has not rolled into rotation

:/

[solar seal]

just checking cause some people are chip gamblers

[gilded sedge]

Chip gamba is pog

[sharp glacier]

I'm fully f2p

So buying chips is like last level priority rn cuz I'm still buying out the essential stuff

[solar seal]

that's totally fine and proper perspective from your spot. just means you'll be spending a little time @ frogs for a bit. on plus side, you should easily get the card to 4* while you are there so it builds the dr/card-dr foundation for ya

something i'll note is for now, don't worry about combining the pops into silvers. equip the bronze as you get them cause every little bit helps

[sharp glacier]

I think I'm going to focus on getting my w1 deathbote up a bit

That way I can increase my kills/hr atleast

[solar seal]

both good things to work on. note that while MK/damage tiers will increase your kph, it does not affect loot drops. those are always based on base kills/hour

[sharp glacier]

Base kills/hr?

So if my kills/hr go from like 30k to 50k my chances for pop obol won't increase?

[solar seal]

base kills = divide out all MK, kill per kill, other multipliers on your displayed kph

[solar seal]

not necessarily, unless your DR changed

[sharp glacier]

Huh

[solar seal]

if you are killing more base mobs/hour, then it would

[sharp glacier]

Hmmm, it all comes back to dr

But how can you kill more base mobs per hour if you hit the kill cap? I thought that's why multikill exists in the first place

[solar seal]

if i simplify it,think of lab killer brightside (2x kills) and nobisect god (2x kills).

if i kill 10 mobs, those bonuses make it such that i'm shown that i killed 40 mobs

but i've only rolled on loot for 10 mobs

so simply looking at your kph does not directly correlate to how many times you've rolled for loot

[sharp glacier]

Oh so how would one increas the base/hr after hitting kill cap?

[solar seal]

kill cap can be influenced by things such as mob respawn and such which is why that is such an amazing bonus towards mid/late game

i'm overly simplifying it to explain why simply looking at your KPH does not mean you get mroe loot rolls

the MK/damage tier situation is a completely different topic/issue

[sharp glacier]

Hmmm

Ok thanks for the help!

[solar seal]

ah one edit to what i said earlier. MK affecting loot is purely for the material in the 1st slot (aka 'base material'). every other slot is unaffected by MK when doing the loot roll

[sharp glacier]

Yes i went through the wiki and i understand better now

I'll try for a bit on dk but thanks again!

[bleak gazelle]

lul, woke up to basically the same thing

Behold, my first weak ass lotus

[wanton obsidian]

👀

[short sparrow]

Sleepy time

[bleak gazelle]

i wish

🎉

🎉

[lethal aspen]

nice juicy book

rng'd the comb with my gemshop pristine charms

[bleak gazelle]

🎉

lets goooooooooooo

[lethal aspen]

which ones that?

[gilded sedge]

The first lantern on the last island

[lethal aspen]

Ah not the jade upgrade ones yet, I think the first is just ok

[gilded sedge]

Ye very mid

[gilded sedge]

U can even see him getting the achievement on top right

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, took it a sec too early

idk who else to push this on

[gilded sedge]

Have u done vman?

[lethal aspen]

A mage? There’s 1 more tree to print past there

[strong nexus]

went you said 300 gem/day for world boss a day start at reset right?

[bleak gazelle]

300 bosses/day, to clarify, they may give more or less than 300 gems

toolbox should show you how many you have

[bleak gazelle]

yeah. how many people did this lock require?

trying to remember who all i've done it on

[lethal aspen]

4

[gilded sedge]

Wait damn so it goes from 4 to 9? That's wild

[strong nexus]

no i mean i start hunthing at 9h am my reset is at 9h 30 so does after the reset is count as another day

[bleak gazelle]

i swear i've done it on more

[gilded sedge]

Ye I thought the lock was like 6

[strong nexus]

because if it dont i wont keep going on the w dongeon today

[lethal aspen]

I swear it was 4, need check wiki anyway

[lethal aspen]

9 was pretty wild tho ngl

Cos ceramics is painful already

[bleak gazelle]

is it even on the wiki?

[lethal aspen]

5 apparently?

On the map page on wiki

[strong nexus]

why sometime went i hit efraunt head the dmagae is green?

[gilded sedge]

Ye 9 is pain, super glad I'm finally done with it

[lethal aspen]

Megacrit

Except it stops being green past 10m again

[gilded sedge]

Green cuz megacrit, when u damage something with a shield it shows the megacrit color since its less then 10mil damage

[gilded sedge]

Tbh being able to hit megacrit before u hit 10mil damage would be wild

[lethal aspen]

This is more back in w4 days

Before he even made it green

Most of us saw green megacrits for like a week and then went over 10m

[strong nexus]

megacrit happen went you crit % is over 100% so it could be possible to megacrit before 10m damage

[lethal aspen]

Back then trying to one shot flombs with poison was the meta

Poison with its .1X dmg multi before crits

[gilded sedge]

Idk it means u statue farmed before getting 10mil damage, and also got the book before hitting 10m damage

[strong nexus]

well you can do that whit 1 character and ignor the 9 other meaning the 9 other can do megacrit whitout having 10m damage

im just saying its possible not that anyone will try to achive that

[bleak gazelle]

oof, failed two upgrades on BB's new weapon

recrafted his armor to kruk too...3 pieces got bonus stats!

they're all agi

[icy stone]

is the owl new sub class hint or shamen

[bleak gazelle]

probably new weekly boss

[sly cedar]

i was worries it might be new companions lol

[dire anchor]

is there a way to know what your max evolution tier is in gaming?

im not sure if i have t8 plants or not and i dont really know what i have to check to figure that out

[bleak gazelle]

check mutation tab

[dire anchor]

nice i forgot the basic info in the game

ty

[shell wadi]

why are they called suggmas

[bleak gazelle]

something something suggma balls

typical lava humor

[steel anchor]

💀💀💀

[jade gull]

any tips for a new W5 fella?

[bleak gazelle]

check that first 📌

Gaming is just point and click for now, harvest when it's available with no real strategy until you unlock some more stuff. Recommend you buy 1 golden sprinkler from gemshop if you have spare gems

[somber berry]

The log minigame - is it RNG or is there a strategy?

[fervent yew]

Rng

[somber berry]

booo

[bleak gazelle]

3/4 of these rolled with extra agi but they were supposed to be for my BB

[worldly lagoon]

woke up to this beauty

[drowsy sage]

W progress?

Anyways whom should i link to?

[bleak gazelle]

idk if you saw but i got my first two lotuses today

[gilded sedge]

Damn, ur basically done with summoning already

[worldly lagoon]

i have trash bad drops on so i wouldn't even see those lol

[bleak gazelle]

If you're just starting in W5, check out the 📌 for a divinity primer. Otherwise you're typically going to want bear or goat for most of your folks depending on what stage of div you're at. Nobi/snake for pusher/skillers

[strong nexus]

going truth 550 key take so long and its so death brain

[bleak gazelle]

that's why I don't do it

[strong nexus]

its alchemy and exp statut and i still didnt onyx those 2 and i want to see for myself if its really 300gem a day i use 200 key im at 120 gem

[bleak gazelle]

it's not 300 gems, it's 300 world boss kills

[strong nexus]

i will see went i reech that

its fine that you telling me that but i prefere verifing the info i get instead of blantly take all you saying at fair valu

[bleak gazelle]

🎉

[fervent yew]

and then you unlock the dream that increases faux jewels max level higher xD

[bleak gazelle]

please

[fervent yew]

is a nice DR bonus at the least once you've got the challenges done

[bleak gazelle]

Currently on these, I can probably easily hit the 1b but I'm waiting to get fishing/catching to 500 for the skill efficiency boost from skill mastery

or not, who knows, I just keep putting sampling off

[fervent yew]

i dread to think how long its been since i resampled on my chars T.T

[round surge]

what should my captains have as stats in sailing if i want to get sovegn artifacts

[bleak gazelle]

coming up on 2 months for me

[pallid monolith]

i have quit this game abt a year or 2 but can someone teach me on how i can ramp up fast im seeing people that is lvl 180 with 3000 stats in agi while im lvl 361 with 1800 stats in agi

[fervent yew]

basically as much artifact find % on each as you can get, also pick up every ender captain you get if you have unlocked them - even if they have bad stats, you can always park them, but the +25% artifact find bonus account wide makes them pretty good just to have

[bleak gazelle]

alchemy

[fervent yew]

Yeah, almost entirely alchemy, you get base stats, and then multipliers in those stats that outstrips anything you can get gear or other buff wise, if you've kept pace with alchemy

[bleak gazelle]

In particular, bubbles 1, 2, and 17 will give you a nice stat boost

[strong nexus]

so i use more than 300 efaunt key im at 175 gem and still get gem

[bleak gazelle]

Did you start counting after your reset?

[strong nexus]

yes

i eat all the gem i got from before the reset then start from scratch

[bleak gazelle]

better talk to w6 chat about it then

[strong nexus]

i start after reset at 553 key im at 244 left now and i still gething gem

[bleak gazelle]

What does your Toolbox dashboard say?

[strong nexus]

im not in w6 stuff yet it unlock but im not far

[strong shale]

I got something ancient or eldritch and idk what it was but i got dis

[strong nexus]

toolbox dashboard?

[bleak gazelle]

!it Yeah, main page

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[bleak gazelle]

jelly, i should look into doing that

[strong nexus]

i have 178 gem since the reset i just saying i kill more than 300 efraunt so its not base on how many dongeon you do if they stop droping after i reech 300 that another thing

[strong shale]

Just woke up and saw, i spammed bottled winds to get those

I was like i am not letting this thing reset on me

[strong nexus]

also i still have 242 key but +123 in my inventory

[pallid monolith]

should i still focus on lab??

[bleak gazelle]

Depends on where you're at. Did you just get to world 5?

[pallid monolith]

yes

[bleak gazelle]

Then I would check out that first 📌 it's got a link to another pin to get you started with Divinity and how it will work with lab later on

Gaming is just point and click for now, harvest when it's available with no real strategy until you unlock some more stuff. Recommend you buy 1 golden sprinkler from gemshop if you have spare gems

And sailing just keep sending boats out, make sure you unlock new boats and captains when you can and push new island when they don't take a day to travel to

You can unlock up to 20 boats/captains (use the slider bar)

[strong nexus]

so i reech 201 gem and now it dont drop meaning it count the gem that i got before reset (so the 300 gem by day isnt counted from the reset but from something like actual day(reset at midnight

[bleak gazelle]

interesting

feels weird

but that's lava

[strong shale]

Or you can only kill 300 bosses regardless if u got the gems or not

[bleak gazelle]

Nah, she said she killed more than 300 but had started before daily reset

[strong nexus]

nan i killed 400 efraunt before i said gem dont drop anymore

[jade star]

I failed to get first divinity 3 times in a row with 50% chance

[strong nexus]

so now what i should do whit my 1300 gem

[lone marten]

Should i make bubo use harriep for more wood/hr or nobisect for dmg

[vague lagoon]

does the poing mini game stutter/lag for anyone else

[red crescent]

Question: What should I spend my bits on now? I have unlocked all the imports and my Fertilizer is 268/288/11

I guess I more mean what is the most important to upgrade

[bleak gazelle]

upgrade your imports? unlock new superbits

[strong shale]

Yep, its a feature at this point

[zinc torrent]

bear

[lone marten]

... ._.

[red crescent]

Yeah, I mean which specific one is the most important to upgrade.

[strong shale]

Usually ES/SB is harriep

[bleak gazelle]

pick your poison. anything besides pong controller and sprinkler are good, hell even sprinker is decent

[red crescent]

Okay, I'm thinking snail?

[strong shale]

I just level whatevers cheapest

[red crescent]

Fair enough

[zinc torrent]

if ur inside boss room and 300 kill boss for gems not done whats left from the day before reset will carry through the nxt day

• from my experience and tested

[bleak gazelle]

ohh, so if you do 100, daily reset and you're inside, then you can do 500?

[zinc torrent]

100 so only 200 left

its rippu gems

[bleak gazelle]

200, but then you can do 300 more for the new day?

[zinc torrent]

no the cap carries through

if ur not done

[bleak gazelle]

ah gotcha

well, that's opposite of what serena was getting

they started before reset but killed more than 300 bosses after and kept getting gems

[zinc torrent]

i didnt ss but the cap carried to nxt day for me

[strong nexus]

i wasnt in went the reset happen got a hospital apointement so i left my character faming on moon map for more ghost

[zinc torrent]

oh so ur outside xd

[strong nexus]

i got 99 gem before my apointement then 201 after my apointement i did 400 efraunt

the reset apend went i was in my apointement

[empty glade]

is there a guilde for wave 120 w5 td?

tried one from yt but they had void at the portal, poison would 1 shot yellow, get stunned then purples go by

[bleak gazelle]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084925174517866496

Check very top message if you don't have access

[empty glade]

its the setup i just used.. ig its rng?

thanks anyways

[strong shale]

its resample day

is sampling on vman bis on nobi for speedrun?

[strong nexus]

but now i dont knoww what to do whit all my gem doot give me like 700 gem then 300 from dongeon then level up gain and 1 coliseum run then arcade so now i have 1400 gem and i dont know on what to spend

(that my life i have money to blow but no desire

[primal sable]

I'm pushing world 6 with world 3 armor and weapons any tips on what I should be trying to work on or should be trying to get?

[strong shale]

are you pushing thru world 6 or to world 6?

[primal sable]

To world 6