lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[strong shale]

At least all the friends we made in w5 chat who we lost to w6 chat will be back

[paper sail]

How dare you mention quick slap

[little pagoda]

I have all summoning battles though

But yeah idk my damage on SB right now

[tall horizon]

w5 talk gonna get subsumed so hard lol

[teal lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-slap-punch-fast-gif-5113397

[little pagoda]

It's still the best source of base damage lol

Mine is very low level and I get 50k from it, I think even with all the stamps combined I don't even get 10k

[fading cape]

Trophy and pendant got me there

[green eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-around-what-confused-gif-21065154

[little pagoda]

With phoenix wings probably even higher

[green eagle]

w5 chatters looking for other people talking about w5

[fading cape]

those are on.

[little pagoda]

Those look like kruk wings

[teal lynx]

I did enough work for today! (I reposted old guides)
Time to shit post in W5

[wise pike]

Can you guys share your sneaking setup plz ? can't pass floor 11, there must be a reason !

[fading cape]

oh you right. They are. I also need the W5 boss keychains too

[little pagoda]

Too bad having absurd damage has very little benefits

[fading cape]

yeah once you hit max multikill it isn't relevant

[glacial venture]

you can have more pickles on for minis@little pagoda^^

[inland topaz]

best advice on getting from the gray Q level in gaming to higher levels? I've got 2.1k multiplier and am leveling shovel and shell as fast as possible.

[little pagoda]

Yeah one of the few uses

Other use will be when w6 boss comes out but I doubt you will need more than like 100Q for that

[zealous niche]

Veil rosary on six and double lotus on four

[fading cape]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=bits

[teal lynx]

Just imagine that bottom right toon has another lotus or veil + rosary. The second page is full with double lotus people

[inland topaz]

you're neato burrito thanks

[fading cape]

I've been called a lot of things. But that one's a first. Thank you

[wise pike]

ty !

[lone niche]

Wow that is insane! I have been working on sneaking since update, and my guys are < 80

[teal lynx]

Activate kitsune -> Harvest plants a lot and spam research with a few dna until you unlock Chemical plant. From there on you do chem chains and hope you get a big nugget (Nuggets will be 'easy' to get once you get an equinox upgrade)
Everything you do before Chem does not matter a lot, since Chem increases your progress by 1000x or more

[little pagoda]

It's weird that I can literally never touch cooking again and max all meals in 3 months

[lone niche]

Thanks

[quiet plaza]

Where the good old w6 channel

[strong shale]

At least we have ppl that are more knowledgeable to help our ie reviews :p

[fading cape]

[little pagoda]

But realistically I get a few more atom upgrades, level half of the levels I need with ladles and max all meals in a month

[strong shale]

[junior dune]

What is the best class for individual hits on the training dummy? Depending on how it works I'm thinking bubo?

[strong shale]

I dont think bubo, probably sb

[fading cape]

Scoli already reviewed every single person's account on their own.
https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

[strong shale]

Thats confusing for ppl who cant read what the lab node vs moai head do

[tall horizon]

sb, es, dk, vman ( )

[fading cape]

Those IE reviews half the time turn into a fryer's club roast anyway.

[strong shale]

Yep its amazing

[solar seal]

i fear for w5ers who ask for account reviews now... gonna get roasted so hard

[teal lynx]

That's the fun part

[strong shale]

Lol thats what i mean, my wholesome chat!!!

[teal lynx]

If I see anyone in here with a dr of 5x and a matty bag of 20 + Minibosses not done I will roast you to the ground

[strong shale]

Im at 12x and i wonder whay my matty bag is at LMAOO

[teal lynx]

(I'm actually not that bad. But sometimes you need to assert dominance)

[strong shale]

140 im safe

[teal lynx]

Are you tho

[paper sail]

Come back after 300 more

[strong shale]

I just unlocked gilded stamps

[fading cape]

roast me.

[strong shale]

Thats not that bad

[little pagoda]

Can get like 230 more levels

[strong shale]

We've seen ppl with 30 books but their 0 to 20 was like 4 days

[solar seal]

i think average key collection time i saw in w5 was ~30+ days, with like 3-4 mini bosses stacked

[strong shale]

LOOOL

[teal lynx]

No you are just saving your books until you get new talent book levels
(Also I can't talk rn. My Dashboard looks horrendous)

[strong shale]

30+ days and only rewarding 2 keys

[fading cape]

how many pickles are you waiting to have

[sick sentinel]

[teal lynx]

No pickles. Just lazy

[little pagoda]

I let my bosses stack to 3 out of laziness, I even let max stacks for the non w5 and non w6 bosses

[strong shale]

Me who just did minibosses yesterday

[paper sail]

Keys don't really matter

[tall horizon]

I dont meet the other criteria, but i do neglect minibosses

[teal lynx]

Hell yeah. All the cool kids neglect minibosses

[strong shale]

For ppl who dont have even 1 chizoar scarf they do 🤣

[fading cape]

I forgot to deposit pickels before using my only 30 arena tickets in W6 today. So I can be roasted today

[little pagoda]

It's probably worth doing them every 7 days for the candy but it's not THAT much tbh

[spring finch]

F, knew it, channels got merged

[little pagoda]

You get more candy from giant mobs than from doing the daily generative minibosses

[strong shale]

Real

[solar seal]

they don't... but its a good indicator for what's in store for rest of account

[strong shale]

The dashboard is just a roastboard

[little pagoda]

As long as you're buying the miniboss summon materials every day you're ok

5 minibosses every day is way better than all the other minibosses combined

[strong shale]

My storage space

[little pagoda]

No storage space necessary, only 2 slots

[strong shale]

Thats if u were to craft them right away

[little pagoda]

You do craft the googly eyes every day, it's very much worth it

[strong shale]

Never seen someone with 50 w1 bags in their storage before? :p

[lapis mesa]

aw, lava called me a loser

[strong shale]

https://tenor.com/view/youknow-you-gif-19056787

[little pagoda]

Sounds like someone who isn't hoarding all the items they should be hoarding

[strong shale]

Real

[little pagoda]

If you have more than 1 page of free storage left you're probably missing lots of items you shouldn't

[solar seal]

once you get closer to onyxing statues, you'll end up with a shit ton of circles so you can easily craft the eyes right away

[trail abyss]

hey there! does anyone have a gear guide for endgame? I got all W6 weapons but now I'm not sure which char should use which gear.. is 2 pc kattle (mob respawn) for archers still the best? and what about the other 2 pieces? god or sth else?
If someone has a decend armor on their chars I'll gladly take an insight or toolbox link :)
When i look at the top places most ppl have skilling builds so i cant just copy what i see there

[lapis mesa]

the video games arent supposed to know.. i can pretend to be cool here

[teal brook]

any vman guide in server?

[strong shale]

To the dev we're all losers :< because we pay for the bills 🤣

[little pagoda]

DK and ES (maybe) should have at least 1 set of full godshard, everything else, best afk fighting setup is kruk body and legs and godshard hat and boots

But you should have at least 1 set for STR, 1 set for AGI and 1 set for WIS of marble armour

[junior dune]

Marble gives a lot of all stat% which is good for snap shotting

[little pagoda]

Yeah it's BIS for sampling, not only snapshotting

[strong shale]

Is that where the mystery stat stones come in?

[little pagoda]

Nah, w6 stones still better

[strong shale]

[junior dune]

Depends? I think some of the specific skill ones are still bis, but I'm not certain

[little pagoda]

I think for catching and fishing %eff equipment might be better

[tall horizon]

only for chop/mining. Catching/fishing gear is still superior

[little pagoda]

For w1 skills stats are better i'm pretty sure

[tall horizon]

and you already said it lol

[manic quartz]

What was the printing sample % hard limit?

[tall horizon]

90

[manic quartz]

thanks

[little pagoda]

The good news is, fishing and catching samples don't matter so much endgame

[trail abyss]

ah, plain and simple to understand, thanks! :D
marble for skills cause of all stats i assume?
oh, could you also give me a suggestion if i should go for tools or armor first?

[tall horizon]

how dare you besmerch my lb 😛

[little pagoda]

Ideally go for all of them but depends on how many bars you have tbh, I have no idea if there is an optimal order

Early on you can get away with only having 1 set of tools and juggle them

[trail abyss]

rn i just have 6m left after equipping 1 char so i wont have enough for all, but I'll start on it ^^
thanks again!

[half sparrow]

How tf is this low possible 😭

[little pagoda]

6m is probably like 90% of everything you will ever need tbh

I think one set of armor, weapon and tools including skull is like 1m bars

But you won't need full godshard armor on everyone

[fast wolf]

these enemies chonky asf

[solar seal]

i got this last week, more expensive for only 1%

[fast wolf]

huge jump from moles

[little pagoda]

Neither you will need weapons on everyone

Everyone that is afk should just use kruk weapons

[grave tundra]

Wait they combined with he channels now

W6 and w5

[upbeat trout]

any tips how to get this 3rd chest ?

[little pagoda]

Which colosseum? w5 and w6 you use bubo and place auras on the spawns

[upbeat trout]

w6

and im doing that

[little pagoda]

Yeah have to use bubo and if you kill all instantly and don't get that then it's probably not possible

[upbeat trout]

do more dmg give me more score beoucse i insta kill and still no 3rd chest

[trail abyss]

yeah, maybe u r right, but i love DR and if i want all tools for everyone I'll need some more ^^°

[little pagoda]

Yeah might be impossible, I don't remember

[little pagoda]

Most important tool should be skull

Don't know how feasible 120 trapping is so maybe you have that

[solar seal]

if you get it, you'll instantly be world 1st

[upbeat trout]

oh...

fun game lol

[bleak gazelle]

Oi. What. Is w5 chat going to be popping off now

Old man yells at cloud.jpg

[fast wolf]

?

[solar seal]

welcome to current world, where candies are never allowed

[little pagoda]

It's rude

[glacial venture]

no candy in current highest world

[fast wolf]

nooooooooo 😦

sadge

[nova lynx]

You can't just win w6 in 5s

[dusky hedge]

is there ever a point where the demnted opal provides more eff than the serrated rex rings, off base stat alone or no?

[little pagoda]

I don't think so but maybe if you have very high godshard vial

[dusky hedge]

@fast wolf people have literal 100,000s of thoustands of hours of candy, it would be pretty trivial to release a world where people just speed run it in a week using candy

[fast wolf]

theyre so cute

[little pagoda]

+all stats used to be scarce but you now have a lot of sources, it's not as valuable

[autumn herald]

finally done resampling a before and after pic

[little pagoda]

Best rings are the afk gain ones

for sampling

[paper sail]

100k is fairly sus. Multiple hundreds is very sus.

[trail abyss]

u mean cause the all afk gain, right? yeah, sadly i spend too much time collecting traps with low exp, so i still have some more work to do with trap and worship ^^° I'm at ~100 on traps and 110 on worship

[dusky hedge]

I think lava him self has mentioned seeing people who have a fuck ton of legit candy

[little pagoda]

Get high level towers and try to get close to 200 waves, 120 worship should be easy then

[vivid frost]

how to get 70 daily clicks from alternate partcile upgrades? I only have 60 (had 50 just got 10 more from gaming)

[little pagoda]

Yes but he used it as justification to remove the biggesrt candy source so it's now not possible to get that

[little pagoda]

I think w4 merit shop is the other source

[dusky hedge]

i personally dont ever float more than like 1k hours at a time but i'm also not a hyper end gaymer

[slim rose]

Went from 2.1 to 5.6b sample

Huge

[trail abyss]

the towers are around 72-75, from this point on its just a skill issue ^^°

[tacit tulip]

the gaming reward adds 10 to the atom collider level which is 20 more once bought

[little pagoda]

It's still hard for some of the totems with those levels

[paper sail]

Candy and gems were both probably too easy for the last year at least

[little pagoda]

I think best one for xp is... sticky souls? I'm not sure

[trail abyss]

just looked at my waves.. its a shame (130 all, last 110) ^^° tbh i thought the lowest would give most exp, but now i'll definitely will look it up!

[thin lagoon]

pls help me get player rating with letter p and s

[trail abyss]

i got P for you (just forgot what to write) - where are you?

can get S too if you need it :)

[thin lagoon]

I am at w1 town pizza 4 and you need to write "1 star, game sucks!"

pls is possible s too ❤️

if*

[teal lynx]

You also got that S from me?

[thin lagoon]

thx yes i got them now

[trail abyss]

yw :)

[strong shale]

Is wave 50 w5 just locked behind poisonic ?

[harsh oar]

Is there summoning upgrade for red essence per summoning level?

[thin lagoon]

nahh i didnt use any poisonic and i was at level 20 towers or less

[strong shale]

And you got wave 50??

[thin lagoon]

yes

[strong shale]

What da hell

[thin lagoon]

yeah i didnt like poison because i had it like lvl 1 so i used boulder instead

[strong shale]

27/24/24/17 for boulder/party/storm/kraken

And my best is wave 20 🤣 given i gained a few levels since then

[thin lagoon]

for me the w4 is most annoying since it is pretty weird looking

[strong shale]

My poison is like level 7 or smth

Oh level 10

[thin lagoon]

when you get it to 15 it will get pretty good already

but yeah i have 50 max on w4 5 and 6

[tacit tulip]

in poison we trust

[spark scaffold]

i just realized this might have beem my case. I opened all the 50 envelopes and got no gems at all, but i think i've gone straight to the shop and when figured they should be picked from the floor it was too late... either that or they just didn't drop on the ground at all

[strong shale]

Ill try w5 again today then, just trying to prog thru equinox

[thin lagoon]

gl with it 🙂 equinox is fun to do

[strong shale]

Yeah its a good progression system i think

[trail abyss]

well, i opened all 50 and got 200 gems, soo... maybe you didnt miss that much

[strong shale]

Gives you tasks to do thatll benefit your acc in the long run

[trail abyss]

say that again when you need to collect 100k ladles >(

[thin lagoon]

i got that task and i get 70 ladles a day so i just do other equinox and leave it last

[strong shale]

Im at 3k! Working on it! Lol

Nani?!? 70 ladles a day???

[dusky hedge]

70 a day and youre already on that equinox?

[thin lagoon]

yeah :/

[strong shale]

Go get your cooking up!!

[thin lagoon]

im actually on get 2k kilroy kills

cooking is way too slow

[glacial venture]

no vman?

[strong shale]

Well ya, until you start working on it 🤣

[trail abyss]

i just have 2 ones left but maaaan, this will take ages xD

[green eagle]

first cyan victory

[trail abyss]

great job!

[thin lagoon]

yes i have vman but idk its just so slow im lvl 20 on all chars

[little pagoda]

For the 2k killroy one I just gotta either wait many more weeks or hope for citrine warrior again

[strong shale]

The 2k killroy is free now no? With the addition of the higher worlds?

[little pagoda]

last time it came I didn't have good enough killroy but been going 6 per week now, should get there eventually

[glacial venture]

i did it with bubo at neteyes or how they are called^^

[trail abyss]

yeah.. i didnt do killroy at the beginning and now i need to focus all on more time ^^
and the last weeks of killroy didnt help at all! citringe warrior would be great 🤩

[thin lagoon]

what are your killroy upgrade lvls?

[little pagoda]

yeah citringe warrior was like 3 weeks ago, who knows when it's coming back

[thin lagoon]

for time and respawn i mean

[paper sail]

Came to pinchy you, discovered mine is 1 level lower

[little pagoda]

I got to like 1.8k at the time, probably would get to 2k with a few more weeks of upgrades

[trail abyss]

oh great.. that week i went to ireland xD

so close and yet so far

[little pagoda]

Yeah maybe there are a few other maps that let you reach 2k but idk which

[abstract flume]

what is the DR of Pristine Charms

[sick sentinel]

looks like 1/1k

[trail abyss]

my 'high'score is 1236 ._.

[abstract flume]

nice hope i get before i reset back to floor 1

[sick sentinel]

i havent gotta 1 to drop natty yet lol

[abstract flume]

same

[heavy moth]

w6 got merge to w5 😮

[strong shale]

Welcome

[glacial venture]

yes....lava bye losered us and here we are....

[heavy moth]

yeaaa jsut saw that

[trail abyss]

naw, we're patronizing the young ones!

[zealous niche]

Any idea why we got merged?

We’re going to scare all those that just tipped over from w4

[strong shale]

Dw w3-4 chat has plenty of w5 talk in it lolol

[teal lynx]

W5 had not enough active users. We are here to change that

[timid briar]

So thats why the discord wouldnt load, we got yeeted into another channel

[glacial venture]

someone said "take a room" to lava and he took w6 chat

[timid briar]

was afk for a whole 4 hours and https://imgur.com/9UEXFPZ popped up

[trail abyss]

we could do other splits.
"W6 Gods"
"the other plebs"

[strong shale]

I thought the gods were in w5? Isnt that divinity in a nutshell?

[trail abyss]

gz :)

[little parrot]

W1 noobies. "most players". W6champions. only need 3 channels really, right?

[strong shale]

Thats for end game talk :p

[trail abyss]

hmm... "W6 Farmers"?

[timid briar]

Wouldnt that confuse people since farming is a skill

[little parrot]

we are farmers. dun nan na na nuh

[trail abyss]

but at least farming is in W6 ^^

[heavy moth]

whats the stats cap before shadow ban if it still exist

[glacial venture]

snow parody?

[little parrot]

at this rate, i might be ready for w7 when it releases in 2.1 years

[trail abyss]

okay, how about "W6 Emperors" since the emperor seem to be the W6 boss

[strong shale]

W4 trolls 🤣

[flat bolt]

do smoke bombs and silk veils stack between characters and with each other?

[trail abyss]

W1 Dogs 😎

[bleak gazelle]

i liked it being quiet in here

[teal lynx]

I also liked my W6 channel

[glacial venture]

we didnt ask to be here....

[bleak gazelle]

Lava pls

[untold saffron]

gives us more messages to if nothing else

[strong shale]

Thats what im saying!!

[teal lynx]

I gotchu Felix. Embrace the

[fading cape]

silk veils are additive with one another on the same character. A veil and rosary are multiplicative to one another on the same character.

Smoke bombs and lotus are additive always

[teal brook]

how do i get the enchantment eclipse to lvl 250? is it only from books?

[sick sentinel]

yes

[teal lynx]

Not even 5000 Bit by Bit

[fading cape]

oh look. All my lures fit on the same storage page.

[flat bolt]

thanks

[near kelp]

https://i.imgur.com/KLXRJgX.png what is this captain? and is toolbox bugged? it says this guy is there but hes not actually there for me

[teal lynx]

He would have been there if you had unlocked him in the Jade Emporium from W6. Good to know that it works like that

Might be worth sending that in as a bug report to IT if anyone wants to do that

[near kelp]

ohhhhh gotcha so if i had special capt's unlocked it would of shown him appreciated!

[strong shale]

Unlucky

[near kelp]

darn sneaking bottle neck zz

[heavy moth]

@paper sail just refresh your autoreview, very nice the new UI and all the info in there

[teal lynx]

[strong shale]

NEW SCOLI UPDATE?

[little parrot]

might explain why mine was refusing to load earlier

[teal lynx]

Probably an old one, but Pazu never reloaded

[lime fractal]

getting there

[heavy moth]

hahaha yeaa im late didnt know there was a new one so was checking without reloading

[little pebble]

How are you guys pushing past the skydoggies with your BB's? I don't know if I just suck or what the deal is, but I am ready to jump into an empty pool over this.

[heavy moth]

but lets say that it tooks time to hit tier 22 on purple bubble sooo

[trail abyss]

i just AFKed bb for everything

[little pebble]

I've AFK'ed a lot of guys through it, but I'm thinking I've got someting set up wrong but I can't figure out what it is.

[trail abyss]

wrong prayer maybe?

[fading cape]

just time. Lots of damage bonuses in summoning and farming. So focus those while waiting along with multi-kill sources and afk gain. But BB is a very afk class anyway

[slender cargo]

does the bug^2, wyoming blood and molto loggo etc. max out at 300% or do they keep scaling?

[little pebble]

I'm about 3/4 as far along as the picture above

[paper sail]

I did put up a new update for Forge Capacity sources + Bar calculator in W1 smithing

[little pebble]

caps at 300 for multi

[little pebble]

I'm working through getting everything to 1000 crops in farming so that I can blow through all the categories, I'll just my head down. It just doesn't feel like it should have taken weeks at this point.

[fading cape]

does the calculator include your forge bonuses and oil?

[little pebble]

Scoli, I love you, thank you for your help, I just realized who you were

[crystal storm]

hi, question for slab. if ive completed q providing certain item on all chars and its missing from slab... is there a way to get it checked? (noticed for small food pouch from party shroom in w1)

[tall horizon]

I keep looking for w6 chat lol

[sterile bison]

Same

[tall horizon]

gonna take a minute coming to w5 chat now

[worthy helm]

Rip old w6 chat

[sweet prairie]

dang that’s a lot of lvls

[paper sail]

No. It is purely capacity focused

[fading cape]

hard to say how long it should take. Personally I was pretty hardstuck middlegame when W6 came out. So it didn't take me too long. But making sure to focus respawn and afk gain star signs and keychains is huge. And maybe just going for sources of AFK gain or multikill you may have missed previously is good.

[jagged gate]

We got merged with the plebs in W5 chat

[worthy helm]

🫠

[paper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/random-random-citizen-megamind-citizen-super-hero-gif-5727130

[little pebble]

I've been playing suboptimally for a couple years, but at this point I think I'd struggle to find something I've completely missed.

I'm hoping I'm overlooking something obvious.

[teal lynx]

I can tell you what you overlooked. Like all of Alchemy

[fading cape]

Hate to state the obvious and repeat a cliche. But have you checked the scoli bot to see if there's something where you're well under your average world rating?

[little pebble]

"suboptimally"

[teal lynx]

Unless you changed that in the last 9 days

[little pebble]

Nah, I'm having a hard time fixing it actually

[teal lynx]

Well Alchemy is the obvious thing

[little pebble]

Just using scolis guide, I need to check out a guide on sampling and really drive that one home

[fading cape]

Being in W6 and only having 200 levels in first two bubbles of each color is definitely suboptimal

[teal lynx]

I'm not here to shame you or anything. I just wanted to guide you (like you kind of asked for)

[little pebble]

I think my tone might be coming across weirdly over text here, you're good. I don't mean to come across as upset if I am.

[crystal storm]

im in w6 and dont even have 100 🙃

[fading cape]

subsuboptimal

[little pebble]

Don't worry dude, same boat here, almost all of my alchemy bubbles are from the daily alch bonus since release

:)

[teal lynx]

Scolis tool can definitely help you with samples. I can see if I find the sampling tool/sheet I usually use

[crystal storm]

exactly same. im upgradig manually only to level15 or so

[little pebble]

@teal lynx @fading cape
Do I want to focus on the stat bubble or the passives bubble?

inb4 both

[fading cape]

yes

[teal lynx]

Pretty much both yeah. The stat bubble you can click whenever you get enough resources for it and the passive bubbles (not just bubble 2, Scoli should tell you all the bubbles) can be upgraded with Atoms or clicked with materials once you get enough

[fading cape]

You want to focus on best impact per effort. You can work towards hourly clicking them all eventually. (first bubble easier than second).

However, you can check your efficiency % on IT and level them up based on which is lower % optimized

[teal lynx]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vROpoiWi9XQVNm6gy0hHjvD0RKQFcGFzUmX2f-1rsbv8OPQX583Er0AEZndX6JzxMhz6HG2dSOqa6GT/pubhtml
This is the spreadsheet I always use for sampling. There is probably a lot of gear in there that you can't use/don't have. Just try to get everything from there that you do have

[little pebble]

I have almost everything

[crystal storm]

question for slab. is there a way to still get q items checked if i completed the q on all chars? (noticed for small food pouch from party shroom in w1)

[fading cape]

nope

I'm still missing alien headband.

[teal lynx]

Character 11 is needed for those quests. Some quests can be reclaimed, but for food pouch not iirc

[little pebble]

I'm so sorry

[teal lynx]

It's really bad if your Slab looks like this and then there are those 2 random W1 items

[zealous niche]

No reclaiming food pouch 😦

[crystal storm]

is 11 char even obtainable atm?

[little pebble]

Hey, I'm not sure the documents creator wants people to share this in the disc per the section under "companion doc"

[teal lynx]

I should probably grind those sneaking hats to fill my slab

[crystal storm]

thx

[teal lynx]

Sure, I will delete it. But that sheet is getting shared quite a lot 🫡

[little pebble]

It's not the first time I've seen it, I figured I'd let you konw

[tall horizon]

No reason to remove

[little pebble]

Also already have it saved so we can't really undo the situation.

[abstract sapphire]

Draconium thing is best, right?

[tall horizon]

Once a guide is made public, they can't really revoke that.

[fading cape]

If you have less than 3 yea

[little pebble]

It's not really about revoking, dude just says "please dont" so i figured it would be worthwhile to try to respect that.

[abstract sapphire]

I got 1, so yea.

[tall horizon]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vROpoiWi9XQVNm6gy0hHjvD0RKQFcGFzUmX2f-1rsbv8OPQX583Er0AEZndX6JzxMhz6HG2dSOqa6GT/pubhtml

For anyone that wanted it still

[abstract sapphire]

I just noticed I still only have one bleach cauldron. Does Draconium just skip that phase, or are they multiplied/work together?

[little pebble]

You ever get diagnosed with ODD man?

[teal lynx]

I did put the sampling sheet into the og message again

[tall horizon]

Not relevant lol. The user saying they don't want it here is just showboating.

[little pebble]

LMAO

[teal lynx]

Ahhh I need to find that "optimal Snail mail" image again. I had a good way to find it - Thanks for removing W6 Chat

[tall horizon]

If they didn't want it shared, they would not of made it public

[tacit tulip]

optimal snail mail

[teal lynx]

Even labled it correctly

[viscid wadi]

Aren't you already supposed to be going for 23 snail right now? You don't need that xD

[teal lynx]

Just search for Snail mail and has:image
Sakori

[flat forge]

Just spent 51 mail on trying to get to 21, it failed every time

[teal lynx]

I like to share it, when somebody asks for it
Doesn't benefit me at all

[fading cape]

They're independent multipliers.

[viscid wadi]

True. You'll get it this time for sure

[paper sail]

Kinda funny that they're requesting it not be shared, yet linked my personal set of notes without informing or asking permission.. That was weird to see. (At least I do not remember being asked permission. I would have said yes 🤷 )

[teal lynx]

2 min till daily reset. If I get 3 mail I will do a little video of 3 attempts for 23 snail

[tacit tulip]

I just have a selection of things saved in my pcitures folder.

this one isn't as impressive anymore

[dusky hedge]

https://i.imgur.com/OumFiax.png when should I start adding into something else here

[fading cape]

If I could go back. I would never

[green ocean]

Not for a long loooong time

[tall horizon]

openly uses public domain, but requests theirs not be

Tsk tsk

[teal lynx]

Fish 🐟

[junior dune]

For the purposes of raising awareness about the doot situation I think it is better to share that sheet than not. It was how I learned how bad it truly was.

[viscid wadi]

Crazy, that's the same sad one I got today too

[tight ridge]

for farming base mats with ES, is it better to go multikill cards or damage or dr

[viscid wadi]

Nooooooooo

[teal lynx]

70 encourages

5 times the charm.... right?

[zealous niche]

Is this saying after encouraging 6 times at 21, start trying to level to 22?

[toxic stream]

I JUST HIT MY FIRST JACKPOT

[tacit tulip]

Yeah, it's the best expected results on average

can still fail, and you know how the game hates us

[viscid wadi]

I failed about 7 times the first time I was going for 22, then didn't follow it for a while, but after my reset from 22 back to 20, it worked first try at 6. So.. you know... the game just likes to screw with you and all

[worldly lagoon]

that video brings me pain

[tall horizon]

huh, guess this isnt in the masterlist.

[toxic stream]

I got like 2k gems from that. I can see why people play the arcade

[tacit tulip]

they're rare as all hell though

[flat forge]

Fucking rough, im so sorry

[viscid wadi]

It's always that last possible click that will do it too. "Oh, out of mail? Okay, lets reset now"

[teal lynx]

Still getting way more bits than before the summoning update. I can live with that 🫡

[formal minnow]

Any suggestions, I always get about this far and the game freezes and crashes.

[paper sail]

Don't play on mobile 🫤

[little pebble]

Well, I wont defend that.

[old edge]

Feels bad I just took samples yesterday, won 2 1.35 eff buffs from summoning

I need to take them all again

[tacit tulip]

I sampled last week and I'm being stubborn about it atm

[tight ridge]

for farming base mats with ES, is it better to go multikill cards or damage or dr

[tacit tulip]

I'll sample once I've got some skills to 299

[tacit tulip]

mix of multikill and damage

[old edge]

I swaped my tallents to see what I am sitting at now, yesterday my max was 72B now its just 72B without cards or anything RIP

[tacit tulip]

dr does give more base mats but it's less than you'd get from MK or higher portals

[untold saffron]

Empty fence yard, low pop server and stop kitchens

[viscid wadi]

Maybe you'll get your billion+ nug soon as compensation

[green cape]

does that mean if i update from snail 15 to 16 i cant get below 15?

[untold saffron]

Should have lost then

[old edge]

LOL

[tacit tulip]

As long as you level the sodium atom bonus to 3

[green cape]

i thought it goes to 10 then

[tacit tulip]

it's based on your sodium level

[green cape]

yeh wording was little wonky for me

[tacit tulip]

If you're at 15 snail, get sodium to level 3 before you do anything else with snail

[green cape]

i mean hence failing lvl 15 to 16 could reset to 10 in my world

[tacit tulip]

nah you'd be safe

[green cape]

dw i got lvl 4

[tacit tulip]

when in doubt, it tells you on the snail

[green cape]

k

havent read it tbh

aint nobody got time for that

[teal lynx]

Gonna take a while, but I can purely focus on nugs now and not upgrade stuff every 10 minutes
But my week is rather full. Maybe I can get in 8-12 hours over the week

[queen lodge]

Only one last color left

[slim rose]

Same but 11/14

[untold saffron]

Surprised there hasn't been a sparky nerf

[viscid wadi]

lol, yeah, that's true. You can just focus it now. Don't forget that you should have unlocked insta gaming too if you really wanted to focus hard in your downtime

[green cape]

there are no hotfixes unless they are real abuses -cough sailing abuse cough-

[teal lynx]

Why stop at lvl 4 if you can go to 8

[glacial venture]

dont speak about the bars for bars^^

[tacit tulip]

can a mod go pinchy lava's screenshot? 😛

[untold saffron]

Never heard of such a thing, move along now

[queen lodge]

(which one )

[glacial venture]

101 isnt top 100 lava^^

[untold saffron]

Palworld fell off hard innit

[teal lynx]

Oh true

[viscid wadi]

I knew you'd forget 😂

[teal lynx]

That speed is crazy. Can't even move to shovel without feeling like I'm suboptimal

[viscid wadi]

I actually keep the sprinkler off it now cuz I feel like it causes misclicks or slowdowns some times

[queen lodge]

honestly, this is almost more powerful then sparkie (at least for me currently)

[teal lynx]

I will keep it on the shovel, since I'm used to it. But maybe with Insta I will put it away

[tight ridge]

what am i looking at

[teal lynx]

Most normal endgame gaming garden

[little pebble]

absurdly powerful for me

[glacial venture]

5s refill

[viscid wadi]

Yeah, ever since my test before, I find myself sacrificing more active time to it than I thought I would, but then I just don't work on it mostly at other points in the day cuz I get my fill in when I do and 5s just feels too slow now xD

[tight ridge]

how long will it take me to get that glorious garden

[fathom lagoon]

2q/90q bits. The light at the end of the tunnel is far but I can see it

[tall horizon]

no perms 😛

[glacial venture]

you need w6 for it

[ocean lily]

Woah hello W5+6 combo channel

[tight ridge]

what in w6 lets you get there?

[glacial venture]

farming

or more a combi of different things

[fathom lagoon]

Holy shit gaming is so much faster on web lol

[queen lodge]

yeah with the new yellow spike bonus it's almost feel like you don't cheese summoning all that much

[viscid wadi]

Honestly, I still can't understand for the life of me how Michael had 38/39 shell. I'm still only 34 despite all I've put in

[fathom lagoon]

Michael is the pancake of gaming, dude was goated

[teal lynx]

You can get that garden once your cycle time is 0.5m. This takes a few hundred hours (maybe less with the changes to it)

The 5 second gaming that Kettensaege is refering to should start at around 1.5m with a lot of farming boosts

[tight ridge]

hmm interesting

[viscid wadi]

Very true facts. I know he cared more about the shell too, so he stuck with 5s cycles despite insta being superior for acorn and a little for bit gain

[teal lynx]

This is not web. This is steam and derives from my 0.5m cycle time

[tight ridge]

im at 3min cycle atm

[velvet mural]

I hit the max for the "extended edition ranks to run refinery image" being 45 26 15 42 24 and 14 respectively, is there a new one?

Like a new pic

[fathom lagoon]

True. Just in general though it’s faster as in my game lags on mobile when too many cactuses are popped, etc. Seems to not do that on pc

[teal lynx]

Oh yeah that's probably true

Just need a better phone

[fathom lagoon]

😂😂 using my 2019 iPad that literally does nothing but run idle on 24/7

[manic quartz]

Fiiinaly... gezzz

[slim rose]

Is 4 golden sprinklers 90% no charge yse?

[fathom lagoon]

Does 1.2m down to <1m make a huge difference for gaming?

[teal lynx]

Max Golden sprinkler is 60%. Weird math that I don't understand

[little pebble]

The gems add to each other?

[fathom lagoon]

Sneaking? Yeah

[little pebble]

I've wasted DAYS!

[teal lynx]

Not really. You will get a few more evolutions here and there, but it's not magically gonna give you 10x more bits and nugs

[slim rose]

‘Each purchase boost this chance by x1.5’ yeah weird math

[fathom lagoon]

Ok gracias imma keep pushing bits multiplier on squirrel then

[sick sentinel]

i would just go with the deficit ranking on the scoli autoreview, that will keep things in line if they are in the positive

of course always rank red and green

but there is also the fuck it rank all method

[teal lynx]

Squirrels Bit bonus quickly plateaus. I wouldn't recommend any higher than 6x on it

[velvet mural]

Yeah I been rankin those

[queen lodge]

update, 6 win in a row, no life lost yet

[velvet mural]

That's what I did to hit the funny numbers lol

[viscid wadi]

I've seen that Sado does this, so maybe it's worth it to some extent? But it has such massive diminishing returns on the number of clicks needed to just go up x0.01 on it after a point

[velvet mural]

Thanks Circ, might just do the fuck it all method honestly

[fathom lagoon]

Kk I’m 5.53. I’ll stop at 6, hopefully at 90q by then 😂

[fathom lagoon]

I’m just trying to hit this 90q bit asap and then take a break from gaming after that for a while

[teal lynx]

Sado also has a 2B nugget

[trail abyss]

apropos sneaking: does anyone tried the new setup with one char with taunt mark and log + good gold scroll and star gem?
i'm not sure if it was just a theory or if it could be a new meta - but with my items it doenst seem to work and i dont know if sth is just too low or if the meta dont work in general

[viscid wadi]

Also true. I believe he was trying to make the push for better as well after there was someone with higher on the LB that proved it could go above the potential max bit value that was speculated for it

[teal lynx]

If your only goal is the 90Q you can probably go a bit higher on the bit multi (if even needed). But ultimately speed will help you get higher evos at some points, which results in more bits than the squirrel can give you

[viscid wadi]

For reference, this is what Sado has (but hasn't been updated in a while so probably further now) vs the cost and multi for mine currently:

[teal lynx]

Mine as additional info

I guess 7x if you really want to

But all that speed you could get

[stoic silo]

I was pushing arena and looter pulled a heal poggers

[viscid wadi]

Yeah, at that cost, according to my chart, I hit 0.4m with speed only needing 4287 acorns still, and that was when I was playing around and did my squirrel only level out of curiosity

[little pebble]

Whats the source on this?

[torn dune]

RIP W6 chat. RIP W6 pins.

[teal lynx]

If you play on Steam you can go to W1 Town and click a present in the top right (event ends in like 2 days)

[little pebble]

legend

[solar seal]

its so funny, everyone looks same walking around w1 rn

[slim rose]

What hat did you guys pick?

[torn dune]

Husky ftw

[trail abyss]

the grey woof woof!

[teal lynx]

Right hat, since it is the only one that wasn't released yet

[slim rose]

Same +1 slav

[queen lodge]

I did it (but my fingers hurt a lot from the spam click) (sparkie and the spike scale+seeing red combo are really op)

[quiet pewter]

da.

[thin lark]

So, where are the ole' W6 pins at? How am I supposed to play without Trickz holding my hand?

[teal lynx]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1208108939313684621

[zealous niche]

What’s your base damage without the red boost?

[little pebble]

Do they not have spots in the slab yet?

the new items

[queen lodge]

this (also I got lucky with a 4 use sparkie card)

[torn dune]

I, for one, welcome our new W5 overlords

[teal lynx]

Not visual, but they still count. So make sure to drop them and pick them back up

[manic quartz]

Last cyan summoning left... and I still cant complete 5min fight quest 😦

[slim rose]

Oh no why did the workds get merged?

[little pebble]

I drop literally anything that might be new just on the off chance, esp consumables

[slim rose]

Just wait til endless?

[manic quartz]

Looks like that is the only option

[zealous niche]

I’m a bit over 50% of the way done then, nice

[torn dune]

Probably the biggest blow from the W5-W6 merge is that a ton of useful searchable info got nuked. Pretty much every question I could ask had already been answered in W6 chat.

[little pebble]

Is it better to AFK as BB or to active as BB?

[stoic silo]

goddamn this is slow

[little pebble]

Feels like AFK is probably better

[trail abyss]

does anyone do the sneak combo with mark+log and could give me their idleonefficiency link? i wanna see what numbers are needed and toolbox only shows 99+

[thin lark]

I use it. Only on Mastery 1 though.

[toxic stream]

I didn't even see it. Thank you.

[olive warren]

it cannot possibly be true all the info was lost. That would be incomprehensibly stupid, that's actively ruining any attempt at a community environment, on purpose

[trail abyss]

that would be enough for me ^^° could you tell me your 1st char name or give me a link, pretty please? :)

[torn dune]

I'm not saying that the sky is falling here. All of the knowledge base is still a part of the community. Trickz just gets to rebuild it!

[thin lark]

Nah, https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1208108939313684621 it's all in here.

[solar seal]

rashaken was saying its still there, they are just waiting on author approvals to move them

[rugged token]

w6 chat gone i'm in shambles

[solar seal]

see #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message for his response from earlier

[torn dune]

I was more or less joking about the trickz pins. It's more the entire rest of the chat history getting purged.

[little pebble]

If i'm active on my archer classes, do I still have to leave to restock the forge or do I just get the benefit of the kills with none of the downsides?

[solar seal]

afaia, restock only happens on an afk screen trigger so active won't do it. also talent is less effective on active archers since it doesn't trigger on MK whereas MK does trigger on afk, why gmush 2min/1hr candy claims are a thing

[little pebble]

I've done hundreds of 1hr candy claims, but I'd never thought of doing the 2mins or how multi factors in there.

[sick sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/chessies-chesapeake-shores-schearthome-each-other-together-gif-23065030

[teal lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-alesha-dixon-britains-got-talent-oh-wow-whoa-gif-25611600

[twin nacelle]

How does the last gaming evolve work?

[teal lynx]

Like the others? 😅
Unless your cycle time around 0.5m or lower it's basically just luck if you get it or not

(Even then it's luck, but much better)

[little pebble]

If I can't push any further, is it best to just active on my bubo as the default? I could go back to skilling I guess... I've never really been here before.

I don't know what to active as

[twin nacelle]

I dont understand

[torn dune]

You gotta pick a grind

[rugged token]

depends on what your next closest goals are or if you want to work towards long term goals

[little pebble]

I can set up my AFK's, I just dont know what all of the active grind options are

typically I just push

[solar seal]

onyx, gold food, green stacks, etc

[spring jasper]

Fear me for I have become goat destroyer of the lv2100 wall

[twin nacelle]

Why does it say evolve?

I have it full

[rugged token]

Always always make sure you're farming something for a reason and not 'just cause' because that's how you stall out and get bored with no progress

[solar seal]

you done with that menu. no more mutations for now

[little pebble]

2 years in, i'm not at risk of quitting

[spring jasper]

Lvl 1 to lvl 2 flower for example is called evolved

[rugged token]

you'd be surprised how quick that can change for some people

[torn dune]

Active Bubo on Wurms if you're still in w5 is a good spot to chill if you're researching a new goal or something. How far have you pushed?

[little pebble]

Stuck waiting on my BB's to finish AFK'ing through skydoggies

50m to go

[rugged token]

100k plunderous is a great option if you haven't done it yet

[spring jasper]

So ya got like a solid 4 months of afk grind in w6

[little pebble]

I am actually praying this is not true

[spring jasper]

I dont fear a lot... but that grind... it scares me

[rugged token]

it's only a couple of days maybe a week max

[little pebble]

97.9k

[rugged token]

1m is the nightmare run

[little pebble]

I'll just finish that up I guess

[spring jasper]

Honestly the next door took me 2 months, than like a week to active until the end

[little pebble]

I didn't realize how impactful greenstacking everything would have been had i just done it initially

[versed cypress]

once you can properly oneshot plunderous citrines the grind is not that bad considering you can get around 19k to 22k plunderous a day if you active it

[spring jasper]

I mean yeah .. also dont neglect alch

[steady spruce]

does multikill count multi for plunderous count, or is it just flat count?

[little pebble]

I'm working on it now lmao

[rugged token]

If I don't have a particular goal in mind I generally active farm on DK

[spring jasper]

Still hate it xD

I just put all chars into baby jail for the lvl 2100 jewel

[versed cypress]

its not that bad and honestly the DR multi it gives is quite nice

[little pebble]

101T damage rn

I hope thats enough

[solar seal]

flat count

[versed cypress]

more than enough

[spring jasper]

Lol ya got like double my DKs damage

[little pebble]

thats without any of the damage gear on

[versed cypress]

archers specialy SB are the easiest chars to just overcharge dmg very very fast

[rugged token]

1m plunderous would be quick af if mk was accounted for. you'd just go to gmush for a day and a half and be done

[trail abyss]

these good old times when you tried ti balance the skill so the plunderous mob spawn is high but you still can beat them ^^

i remember dying from them a some point

[little pebble]

You guys got any tips for card farming in w6?

[versed cypress]

which card??

[little pebble]

all...?

[spring jasper]

I got like 50T on my DK and iam just 200M kills of the last mob...

[rugged token]

pain and suffering and also hating life while farming on ES

[trail abyss]

well, card snap and DK

[versed cypress]

mob cards you either ES active, DK active or anyone doiung afk farms

[spring jasper]

Whats card snap

[versed cypress]

the material cards, vman will be your best bet at tryign to get them

you enter the map with your card drop chance set and then change it to whatever else you use

[little pebble]

I only just about a month and a half ago realized how important having him maxed out on every skill was, so I'm working on that now

[spring jasper]

Ooh snapshotting

[versed cypress]

vman will soar past everyone on most skills very easily now

[oblique zinc]

Is this the last evolution of this plant? It doesn’t evolve to other mutations right?

[versed cypress]

just make sure you have the bonus skill that makes his left and right hand effects apply to himself as doubled

[little pebble]

this hurts me

[spring jasper]

Oh... I just remembered i can push the eclipse skill past 245.... time to do a silly little speedrun push tomorrow... is there even something to be gained?

[tough tusk]

well since DK is good for only specific maps doesnt mean he wont be good at others but ES will be better

[oblique zinc]

If i get a new mutation, can i automatically see all of its evolutions?

[versed cypress]

plants will have 4 forms that you will have unlocked from the start and then 4 more than you have to slowly unlock trough bits and sneakings

[little pebble]

How are you getting past 245?

[oblique zinc]

Read this one

[spring jasper]

3 more if unlocked

[spring jasper]

Lvl 3 red skull from sailing

[versed cypress]

nah ES will be better for mob cards always, if you have the dmg for decent enough whormhole

DK is king for crystal caards tough

[little pebble]

yeah the dk crystals on a good map are kinda nuts

[solar seal]

270 with sovereign fury, 299 with full summoning wins + bonuses

[versed cypress]

best map for DK is mini chefs followed by leeks

[spring jasper]

Oooh 299 is a thing?

[solar seal]

its the current max

[versed cypress]

once you get to finish summoning and have all sov artifact lanterns yeah you get 299 as the max book level

[tough tusk]

yes but the point is that at flat maps you dont want to use ES cus that will be your DK map for this world so just from crystals you farm cards

[versed cypress]

ohh totaly, and most w6 maps aer quite good for DK the only map that is not really DK friendly are mama trolls and the egg yolks

still if you are only concerned about the actual mob drops and the mob card and not crystal you want ES

if you want crystal drops while you farm the mobs then DK is your man

[tough tusk]

which is funny cus you will want to use DK in only 2 maps at w6

[trail abyss]

really? 299? Lava is pure Evil.

[versed cypress]

nah youw ant DK in most maps if thats what you are active playing for gold food or statues

[little pebble]

So if i'm trying to redstar all of my cards, ES is basically the class I want in almost all cases

[versed cypress]

for base mobs yeah

[solar seal]

tech i think its 298 but i believe rounding makes it 299 so a little less evil

[rugged token]

even more evil if he gives us more winner bonus multi later on to bump it up to 300 after we all book our 299s

[versed cypress]

tough honestly you will ruby card allyour w 1 2 3 and 4 by doing eclipse skull farming

[tough tusk]

still didnt finish my 245 max books

[trail abyss]

well, since the scaling between 245 and 270 was so low i think that 299 is just as evil as 298 - mostly symbols of beyond would profit so much from 300

[rugged token]

me either, my 0-20 books is 2h27m

[little pebble]

eclipse was taking a lot longer than expected last time I touched it, it would proabably take 1/50 the time given I went from low B to high T in damage

I might take another swing at it, but I was thinking of taking a break from that for a bit to just go after some small goals for a while

I can use prayers for this

[versed cypress]

not a bad choice, set yourself goals weekly or daily if you can manage them etc

[little pebble]

I do the same thing at work to stay motivated, little wins keep me in the zone

[trail abyss]

"You mastered all the Summons I have and ever will do. Here is your ULTIMATE POWER: +1 on books. But hey, lets do it +1 min level too so its totally worth it."

[versed cypress]

i need to do a new vman speedrun sometime soon to see if i can get some more talent points xDDD

[wanton obsidian]

Can someone explain to me what this is??

I didn't know this was a thing

[versed cypress]

each bar needs a set number of ore to be made

this tells you how many bars you make with your max forge capacity each time

[solar seal]

its to help you min/max forge claims

[arctic kraken]

I've done all of Sussy gene's silly tasks.... except the slimes in the yard thing... so now im stuck waiting around

[vernal cape]

oof

[trail abyss]

link please ❤️

[wanton obsidian]

Bet

[trail abyss]

i just did the math myself like a cavewoman...

[tough tusk]

what bad luck

[versed cypress]

the forge stuff is part of scoli review bot for IE

[arctic kraken]

Oops all Tonkas

[rugged token]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

[vernal cape]

yep barly won too

[tacit tulip]

when you get afk kills on an archer, their forge bars talent will craft bars from it

You can only craft as many bars as you have space in the forge tho. Once you empty the forge, it adds more ores up to your capacity

[trail abyss]

ty all!

[strong shale]

Does the automation arm depo all your bars?

[versed cypress]

it refils the forge if its empty every time you claim afk gains and cloud save so that helps a lot

[little pebble]

Is there a guide or wiki article on everything MK does?

[zinc torrent]

only on daily reset

[versed cypress]

dep only happens on daily reset

[cinder bear]

How much accuracy is needed for the Crystal Candalights?

[tacit tulip]

though worth noting the forge has no upper cap for bars, just ores

[zinc torrent]

gribbyfit has a yt vid for that

[wanton obsidian]

So when it says '16 marble bars' that's the max per afk claim?

[little pebble]

thank you

[strong shale]

Oh really thats cool

[little pebble]

correct

[zinc torrent]

combined w5-6 xd

[solar seal]

all crystal mobs require 2.5x acc of the map you are on

[versed cypress]

which is why ppl do the whole 2 min claim on gmush

[zinc torrent]

min afk time

for bar forging

[versed cypress]

small claims ensures they dont waste time because the forge ran out of materials

[wanton obsidian]

But last time I was farming bars I got 45 bars per claim

[cinder bear]

Cheers.

[versed cypress]

45 total? or per slot

[thin escarp]

Can you use mulitple characters to increase 2 min claim or just 1?

[little pebble]

Did you have an oil in the slot?

[tough tusk]

i thought it was 3 min was i wrong?

[wanton obsidian]

Per slot

[versed cypress]

cause that number is telling you how many bars you can get max per slot with your current capacity

[wanton obsidian]

Oh yea I did put oil so yeah that might be why

[versed cypress]

oil is not accounted by that number so yeah thats probably why

[wanton obsidian]

Aight Ty

[patent hatch]

Merged rooms?!?!

[versed cypress]

2 min is the smallest ammount of time that will trigger afk gains

[tacit tulip]

the multi craft from the forge isn't accounted for either, it's just a ballpark

[tough tusk]

for some reason i thought it was 3

[versed cypress]

most ppl do over 2 close to 3 just to make sure the afk timmer gets hit and it counts

[tough tusk]

oh i see

[little pebble]

Drop rate prayer for farming carrot cards or raise MK as high as possible?

[versed cypress]

the number shown by the bot is just the base min possible given your capacity and the ammount of ore needed right

andim happy i got to hi the forge cap stamp last daily reset so it went to 190 and i finaly went above 150k capacity for goshard xDDD

[tough tusk]

well not like i will ever see myself playing so active (meanwhile playing cogy clicker)

[little pebble]

Why is the game telling me I'm picking up multiple cards if it's only taking 1 off at a time?

[trail abyss]

does the droprate also is counted in for quest rewards? just saw i need to get more Monster Ratings and think if i should get it with DK or ES

[static basin]

multikill only inflates kill count for deathnote, portals etc, and gives more of the mobs base drop, in this instance carrot cubes

[little pebble]

I got an 8 card drop that counted for a single card

[barren anvil]

W5 colloseum new best way to farm some gold foods like kebabs?

[zinc torrent]

w6

[versed cypress]

you should be able to get more chances for the item to drop with better dr but its a case of the more you kill the better for quest items

[versed cypress]

w6 is best for gold kebabs

[barren anvil]

oh where is that colloseum located?

[versed cypress]

w5 is best for gold bread

[little pebble]

w6

[rugged token]

also don't use +hp increasing prayers on ES

[versed cypress]

2nd map of every world is where the colos are

[barren anvil]

damn i never realized that until now..

[tough tusk]

DK its a rare drop loot

[trail abyss]

allright, thanks!

[zinc torrent]

imma just put this here for ppl hving trouble with the daily 300 bosses reset

just found out, for daily gems
if u finished ur 300 runs before reset even inside the boss room, u will get next day 300 runs
but if u hvnt it will carry (whats left for that day) over to the nxt day

[junior dune]

God mummy memorial schow has to take a long time. Like many days of active time. I guess I'll get the normal chow though.

[static basin]

you could do a quick 10 minute test on each and see which is better for you

[dapper prism]

MAX BOOK CHECKOUT LEVELS / MAX TALENT LEVELS:
Still need to check something about achievement, or incase anyone has info on it.
https://i.imgur.com/WaT5nBs.png

[versed cypress]

nah DK and ES affect all the drop loot tables, the only difference is that DK bonus affects all mobs including crystals while ES bonus only affects the whormhole mobs

[zinc torrent]

memorial chow?

[tough tusk]

doesnt it onty affect the base drop table so anything in the rare drop table doesnt include in it? (ES)

[junior dune]

I will start a stopwatch now and get some kph for future reference.

[dapper prism]

Srry just posting this so it's easier to find in future.

[static basin]

this meant to say with w6?

[trail abyss]

yeah, good point :)

[barren anvil]

On that note. Farm those 300 gems ? Just do random bosses?

[junior dune]

You can chow the doot arena since there is one invisible mob. It requires you to be active

[versed cypress]

it affects all the drop tables in the monster card, including the blue and red bags its just a matter of different focuses for the DR multis they offer

[zinc torrent]

world bosses

any

[dapper prism]

fixed, lmk if anything else.

[tough tusk]

are you sure since i asked it a few times and people always said that es affect base drops and not anything more

[versed cypress]

world bosses, 300 kills a day to earn some nice gems

[zinc torrent]

so u waiting on one mob to spawn?

[junior dune]

Is that image yours? Could you add this achievement to it if so?

[junior dune]

Correct.

[versed cypress]

ES is a ultiplayer to your direct drop rate that only affects whormhole mobs, it has nothign to do with drop loot tables

it affects all drop loot tables

which is why ES and DK are the best possible classes to farm lucky lads

[tall horizon]

Out running errands, saving this so I can update later

[tacit tulip]

If you wanna future proof, there's the sneak mastery bonus we can't reach yet

[versed cypress]

cause their DR multipliers affect it all

[viscid wadi]

Oh, I guess this achievement is why I'll never get new ship upgrades anymore

[versed cypress]

how far have ppl reached into mastery 2??

[tough tusk]

will have to check it myself since i get different answers before about ES so now i am not sure

[thin lark]

If I buff sailing speed, do I need to reassign my boats to reap the benefits? Or will travel time be adjusted on the fly?

[little pebble]

Alright, does anyone know why when I pick up an 8 card drop it's only counting as a single card?

[dapper prism]

What are all the summoning winner table buffs

[barren anvil]

You get 1 gem per world boss kill? People out here killing world bosses 300 times per day??

[dapper prism]

Pristine Charm, Achievement,..

Oh, Artifact

[little pebble]

f2p players are crazy dude

[rugged token]

it's adding up previous drops and showing that in the bottom left or those would go up to the top of your screen and block it

[tacit tulip]

pristine charm (1.3)
Achievement (1.01)
second achievement (1.01)
Merit (1.1)
artifacts (2.0)

[junior dune]

Also it should be + 15 for sob at 280 now.

[ocean lily]

damn this recent update + big summoning gains took my construction from ~1b to ~12b

[little pebble]

the 30% world rings only count for AFK kills right?

[versed cypress]

ppl keep thinking the bags are special drop loot tables, but they are all affected by the DR multis, because its just a multi to DR if you have a base DR of 20x and you get 200 whormhole kills, that means you are getting a 26x multiplayer (if you get like 13% multdr value per kill) and that will affect all the drop loot tables of the whormhole mobs

[rugged token]

no it counts for active kills as well

[little pebble]

so it stacks with MK rewards?

[dapper prism]

Sob?

[junior dune]

Symbols of beyond

[versed cypress]

its why you want to use the rings if you are doing vman speedruns just to get that extra kills and move a bit faster

[tacit tulip]

Iirc the calculation is:

(Achievement% + artifacts + merits) x Pristine charm

which is 2.12 x 1.3 = 2.756x

10.5 talent level from summoning, x2.756 = 28.938, rounds to 29

[dapper prism]

You're making me sob with all these changes

[little pebble]

OHH NO

I'm so dumb

[dapper prism]

Thank you, stole this 🙉

[tough tusk]

why 26 multi and not 20?

[dapper prism]

Now need to math new max talent levels..

with new sob guess its 378-382 instead

[thin lark]

I think 299 is the new max book level. Yeah?

[dapper prism]

yes

[tacit tulip]

at least until lava tortures us with more summon% bonus

[versed cypress]

is you have the talent at a level it gives you 13% per kill then at 200 kills the multi is 26x it keeps going up the higher your talent level is and the more kills you get fromthewhorm holes

[thin lark]

Plz haha, want that nice number

[tacit tulip]

you just know something like new summon class will have it as its family bonus

[dapper prism]

Anyone care to double check?
https://i.imgur.com/WaT5nBs.png

[rugged token]

Can't wait for it to be 29.001 and round up to 30 so we have to re-book again

[dapper prism]

Oh damn sneaking mastery.. coming up

[tacit tulip]

I agree with the reasonable ES target anyway 😄

(this is 17 arctis, 16 ES)

[little pebble]

Are drop chance and card drop chance 1:1 when trying to farm cards?

Is cranking multikill way up better?

[lyric sequoia]

w6 and w5 chat got merged? Oh no

[junior dune]

Maroon warship doesn't give book lvls but +talent lvls so should be in the lower section

[dapper prism]

Lost so much stuff

[versed cypress]

multikill doesnt affect card drops sadly only dr and card dr

[timid briar]

we all have each other thats what matters

[lyric sequoia]

Wait yeah does that mean all the pins from w6 chat are just gonezo? What kinda bad decision was this?!

[little pebble]

rip, thank you

[dapper prism]

There was only 2 pins, ive received them and will post them and have them pinned

[versed cypress]

we should have gotten a heads up so we could have moved the pinds before hand

[dapper prism]

But i am reworking some stuff first atm

[versed cypress]

trickz always making sure we get the best informationpossible

[teal brook]

whould anyone mind taking a quick look at my idle efficiency and give me a lil feedback i got idea of what to work on next except better gear

[tacit tulip]

alchemy

[little pebble]

so my dropchance key chains are better than my card rate drop chance keychains because they have a larger DR?

[teal brook]

ofc

[dapper prism]

Serperate multis, you can also snapshot card chance

[tough tusk]

so ES just brings my DR to 46 for the situation you described for every drop available for the specific mob the wormhole takes affect on right?

[versed cypress]

that i cant really tell you, since we dont know how dr and card dr interact with each other, but normlay we think its a multi, so you get more benefit from getting more card drop chance since its always lower than base dr

[little pebble]

Sweet

[versed cypress]

no its a MULTI its your base dr is 20 x 26 its not aditive

both DK and ES talents are multis

[tough tusk]

even tho it shows a + in the talent description?

[versed cypress]

the +X% is only for acumulating on thenumber of whormhole kills

[strong shale]

is there anything i should prio https://i.imgur.com/3yVOIST.png

[versed cypress]

is your talent gives 10% per kill and you kill 100 whormholes then you have 1000% DR multi or 10x dr multi

[zinc torrent]

drop seems low and the yellow one

and jade%

[strong shale]

action speed + drop? makes sense

[versed cypress]

also less time dead is a good one to boost

[zinc torrent]

i usually spread out in lvling with is available or can lv

[little pebble]

?

[strong shale]

yeah ive been doing whatevers cheapest

[little pebble]

same

[strong shale]

im only on the book dude floor whatever that is

8 if the ghost floor is 1

[zinc torrent]

im on the lotus one, anyone got the pic for sneaking with lotuses?

gonna buy the double charm nxt

[strong shale]

doesnt the jade gain one scale slower with an alchemy bubble was it? or a jade upgrade

or no wait thats sneaking mastery right

[cyan mantle]

They combined w5 and w6 chat

[strong shale]

yup, welcome to it

[hot dove]

Shiny xp?

What is

[hushed talon]

ah we are part of w5 peeps now.

[versed cypress]

shiny pets from breeding level up faster

[hot dove]

Thank you

[tough tusk]

wouldnt that implies that ES doesnt suck on statues and should give an equal number and might even better for statues that have the mob has in the rare drop table? cus if so why does DK give more statues in any situation? is it just the affect of crystals?

[grizzled crypt]

Hey, is it reasonable to replace a T1 lvl12 216/84 (18/7) dual loot captain, with a T2 21/27 dual loot captain? I only have to unlock Cloud/island 14

[versed cypress]

ES is what you use to get statues on w3 and to get acuracy statues, cause those come from nomral mobs

[cyan mantle]

It's time for some to go to endgame chat

[versed cypress]

DK is still the best at all the other statues cause DK bonus multi affects crystal mobs which have all the other states

[iron citrus]

6 more mushrooms to go for 1k stacks, and half way through 118 farming, roll on glassy seeds

[versed cypress]

but ES can still get decent ammounts of statues, but DK is still better for the ones that are in crystal mobs drop tables

[serene solstice]

done

[tough tusk]

but ES also have one statue for every mob cus of they rare loot drop table so would that mean that if i only grind specific statue i can use ES in the mob that has his drop table?

[serene solstice]

time for another round of booking :)

[versed cypress]

yeah and he will get decent ammounts of it, DK will still outclass them cause of crystal drops but ES will not be too far behind

to put it into perspective i farmed most of my onix statues while farming for vial mob drops with my ES

[open mountain]

bruh they combined w5 and w6 chat? 💀

[tough tusk]

ok thank you have brighten my eyes tho not sure when i will use ES in the near future cus i finished all my monster vials

[versed cypress]

ES is good for different things, mostly in the mid to late game ES is very good for rbying base mob cards or to collect rare drop materials from mobs like glass shards etc

[thin lark]

But you're missing +1 max book level Or is that value just rounded wrong?

[cyan mantle]

I'm confused

[versed cypress]

he will be your dark lanter farmer as well

[versed cypress]

rounding, it shows 28 in the summoning window but it rounds up in the library

[cyan mantle]

Ik man ik

[versed cypress]

its probably around 28.6 or something

[serene solstice]

its rounded wrong everyone has 28 on that but 299 at the end on library

or its just from somewhere else idk exactly

[digital meadow]

Need a link to that part of the discord where they had the merit guide (W6)

[cyan mantle]

Can anyone explain this one to me

[serene solstice]

but dw :D

[digital meadow]

I thought that wasn't possible to go over 220?

[serene solstice]

I was happy to be done with booking... this just hurts xD

[open mountain]

leave your siege breaker active there for a while and voila

[versed cypress]

whenever you kill a mob it has a 50/50 chance to pass a skull to another mob, each time the skull is pass on it moves up in tier up to lava skull

[serene solstice]

it is possible

like you can see there

[versed cypress]

youjust have to be ocnstantly killing mobs

[digital meadow]

I have so many max boosts but it never went up

[open mountain]

it's very possible to go up to 299 now

270 was max before previous update

[serene solstice]

there are some sources for max talent book lvl and the biggest source is sailing

[dapper prism]

Update, any checkers?
https://i.imgur.com/WaT5nBs.png

[thin lark]

220 means you haven't gotten Eldritch Fury I believe. Can go up to 270 with Sov Fury, 299 with Summoning.

[serene solstice]

using the library helper xD

PURE PAIN

[digital meadow]

I thought it didn't nothing because ancient form never increased my cap

[thin lark]

Ancient brought you to 220.

[serene solstice]

its 100% did but you just didn't really notice it

[open mountain]

ancient increased your cap, eldritch increased your cap, and sov will increase your cap yet again

[cyan mantle]

Voila?

[serene solstice]

you probably tought that normal gave you up to 220

[digital meadow]

No I legit had 220 before ancient I remember it being that way

[broken wigeon]

ok literally how do you win summoning, I'm stuck on the first match unable to actually play W6

Spam doesn't work.

[serene solstice]

upgrade your summoning stuff

[thin lark]

Memory is a fickle thing.

[serene solstice]

W1 over the W2 portal

[open mountain]

wrong

[warm pike]

719 ES?

[cyan mantle]

Ah ok

[dapper prism]

Class level..

[open mountain]

class level 719 is next breakpoint for +1 talent levels to all chars

[broken wigeon]

...fuuuuuck didn't realize putting a point in would unlock further lmao

[serene solstice]

lmfao

it feels good and bad to be done with summoning ngl

[warm pike]

Oh

[tacit tulip]

just 103 to go

[thin lark]

Agree, a blast while it lasted

[dapper prism]

Yup

[open mountain]

how is yalls essence gain looking like? I'm closing in on 10B purple per hour

[serene solstice]

pls no new talent max lvl for some time

[tacit tulip]

1% more achievement 300 max now

[warm pike]

very much not true

[serene solstice]

I STILL DIDN'T RESAMPLE

[tacit tulip]

sorry tsuna

[serene solstice]

in over 6 months now...

[tacit tulip]

trash first

[thin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dude-yeah-well-you-know-thats-just-like-your-opinion-man-gif-10470601

[warm pike]

Weird place just makes me think you know what to do

[woeful loom]

no I don't :p
I've been here before that is true but that was before this post board update

[warm pike]

It’s fun in some areas but painful in a LOT of others🚁

[woeful loom]

Idk which islands are good

[serene solstice]

?

[warm pike]

I know

[serene solstice]

first trash island then shimmer I would say

[static basin]

looks good to me, dont see anything wrong with it

[woeful loom]

Okay thanks : )

[warm pike]

What order is sea salt in the islands

like for purchase

[serene solstice]

depends on your game progress but one of the last ones

when you really need it get it but when not then go for the others

I actually would go trash, shimmer, rando, seasalt, crystal and then fractal

[teal brook]

i feel like i am neglecting over half of my bubbels to get a good use of my +5 to 2 bubbles daily but dont know if its worth it

[dapper prism]

Thank you

[junior dune]

If you can fish on sea salt island it's great for xp and cards.

[tacit tulip]

I grabbed sea quite early when they first came out for that very reason

[junior dune]

30M efficiency is needed for the last fish. If your BB can get that much efficiency before your next island purchase I would buy it

[static basin]

trash -> shimmer -> seasalt -> rando -> crystal -> fractal, imo. Look up the islands on the wiki and decide for yourself

[tacit tulip]

that's a solid order

might be an argument for crystal before rando (As rando sux) for the extra candy but the difference is minimal

[sick sentinel]

as long as fractal is last i agree

[junior dune]

I like this suggestion. I could argue about the last 3 but it's good

[strong shale]

me when i have fractal and seasalt for my last 2

[junior dune]

Fractal has an easy 1.25x flurbo upgrade. That may be worth getting depending on your circumstances.

[sick sentinel]

as long as you do your weekly runs its unnecessary

[junior dune]

Generally I agree though

[static basin]

yeah tbh last 3 are more heavy on personal preference

[sick sentinel]

but cheapish i will give it that

[digital meadow]

Can someone PLS link the W6 merit guide

[dapper prism]

Pins

[digital meadow]

Oh don't give me that horse shit they aren't there

Show me if they're there

This server is so poorly organized can't find shit

[dapper prism]

Oh right, hasnt been pinned yet, but, essentialyl, #1208108939313684621 as usual

[strong shale]

[static basin]

damn ur grumpy

[dapper prism]

[removed link due to being toxic]
Pins in the w6 guide

[digital meadow]

Maybe if the server was better I wouldn't have to be

[tacit tulip]

Caught trickz on the one day it's not pinned lmao

[dapper prism]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-hide-in-shrubs-hiding-in-bushes-disappear-into-hedges-embarrassed-gif-24183287

[static basin]

thats a very entitled view

[digital meadow]

Where do you think people would check pins obviously

If someone has to ask it's because it's not there

[junior dune]

Today in particular this is quite fair tbh.

[strong shale]

many people dont check pins when asking questions

[dapper prism]

lol, probably 9 out of 10 times or worse, it's the last pin that was pinned and ppl dont check

[tacit tulip]

Look, to give you a bit of an oversight. W5/6 channels were merged like, 3 hours ago and we lost everything from the old w6 channel (including the pins)

We're working on getting stuff restored but it takes a while 😄

[static basin]

guides are made by community members in their own time for no gain other than to help people, getting all pissy because you dont have everything at your fingertips is weird

[digital meadow]

Because they randomly wanted to deleted the chat that was all setup and everything and move the information to a clear location

[dapper prism]

Eh, all W6 location has been and remained in the same spot though

[digital meadow]

Well those are animals not people tbh

[dapper prism]

No gain, thats a lie!
https://i.imgur.com/lkHnI7t.png

[strong shale]

anyways

[digital meadow]

I'd make every guide possible but I don't know the information hence needing a guide and I'm sick of scrolling because nobody got the memo that wasn't a questions chat

[vernal gulch]

Maybe it’s just me but I love the whole summoning skill I wish he would take it and turn it into its own game

[crisp pasture]

Ahh man we've been downgraded

[strong shale]

remember where you came from

or dont, i dont blame you

[ocean lily]

any tips for increasing very last spice speed? don't need the rows above it

[dapper prism]

Whale?

and whatever the usual one was called

Forager?

Spice Setup

• Make sure you use a burger on your main spice with a Forager on the spice above!
• If you still struggle with Atk, use as many Tsar on the spice above. Then fill the rest with whales to maximize speed.
  https://i.imgur.com/7xNicvo.png

[cyan shuttle]

(you wouldn't with that attitude)

unless you're joking

[cyan shuttle]

i don't need coffees

[tacit tulip]

weird mine is different

https://tenor.com/view/squish-gif-18883951

[ocean lily]

Thank you! was looking and figured it was caught somewhere. See you in a ~while~ lmao

[sick sentinel]

try putting that other nuke above as well then a dif foraging pet

[crisp pasture]

It'll just be fun separating the "just got into W5" and trying to give advice as compared to "just got into W6" and all the massive upgrades that come with that world.

[ocean lily]

nowhere near close to enough attack without a nuke in dharma