lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[fast wolf]

omfg this expensive

[gentle furnace]

its per day

[strong shale]

after you cranium cook in w5 itll go up quick

[short sparrow]

I thought that last bit about alch exp was just "more exp for alch" not due to CC

[strong shale]

the CCing gives seconds of progress per kill

[gentle furnace]

not really

[strong shale]

and that progress gives you exp, check next time you CC

[fast wolf]

??

how u get so much liquid

[strong shale]

cranium cooking

[short sparrow]

CC and liquidvestment

[gentle furnace]

playing more

[fast wolf]

my bubo isnt good enough to bubo :9

[short sparrow]

Start now it will pay off fr

[fast wolf]

on div grind tho 😦

[gentle furnace]

who you activing now

[teal brook]

popped 1 4H candy 13lvl up nice

[strong shale]

pls game i just need 1 more chem plant pls

[woeful loom]

is cranium cooking affected by mulkikill?

[strong shale]

no

[woeful loom]

a oki

[solar seal]

if you see a recipe on the card drop table, it doesn't mean you unlocked it. the recipe image just shows up because you looted any recipe from that world. until the recipe is off the drop table, that means you got it

[fast wolf]

W i went from two people lvl 5 divinity to all of them being lvl 5 and some lvl8 🙂

and i got sprinkler 🙂

yoo this xp crazy

[fiery reef]

what am i best spending my levels on?

[gentle furnace]

luck

[drifting coyote]

upg your cauldrons

[fiery reef]

hmm

[strong shale]

how do i use the 20 books to max a talent

do i need some upgrade of sorts?

[simple wadi]

Upgrade the construction arm machine thing in W3

[strong shale]

ooh okay

[bleak gazelle]

Though you probably don't want to use the 20 until you've gotten the 1k achievement

Except for maybe tenta if you can get it to 200

[strong shale]

already done that, but okay makes sense

im just now taking all my rift chars off rift to lab/divinity to get them to 40 minimum

and pushing all my other chars to ~300-350

[junior dune]

Probably blood marrow as well. It may very well pay for itself by increasing the lvl of the library speed meal

[wanton obsidian]

Which map is better for farming statues in w5? Orange or worm

[strong shale]

yeah i was considering just doing that one as my first

[junior dune]

Wurms

[wanton obsidian]

I notice I get 750+ orbs in the orange map while 650 in worm

[junior dune]

Interesting. It may not be better without the vman statue enhancement

[wanton obsidian]

Yeah I don't have that

[junior dune]

That allows you to have 1 statue on each floor

Wurms have the advantage of dropping keys and giving significantly more money

So it may still be preferable to do wurms

[wanton obsidian]

Fair

Might just be rng I'll test the orbs again

[teal brook]

any idea of whats the easiest thing to do this with and how? last time i printed i only got 9k copper ore

[strong shale]

oak logs

get your multi log bubble up big time

https://i.imgur.com/82hKt7n.png

https://i.imgur.com/1bnmcQF.png this helps too

[edgy plaza]

What's the fastest way to level up at level 29 as a mage

Way

[teal brook]

to open new portals

[wanton obsidian]

That's some Garbo print at that point in your progress

[junior dune]

I don't think people in this chat really remember that time well. Ask in #newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳ Maybe sticks map

[teal brook]

never bothered to do it good i am way too lazy

im prolly doing it now tho as it seems i need the boost

[wanton obsidian]

Royal sampler?

[edgy plaza]

Can I get some help with the dungeon

[junior dune]

Look for a sampling checklist and go through all the steps

[wanton obsidian]

Skill dimwit?

[junior dune]

Chopping food?

[teal brook]

youst got it earlier when i randomly unlocked and did the totem in the tree lol

[wanton obsidian]

That would only increase it by X2 so far from 1mil print

[teal brook]

but wont royal sampler royally ruin my progress for skills and lvl?

[strong shale]

nah its additive, just equip it and get used to those exp rates

[wanton obsidian]

Maybe check your talents?? I refuse to believe your highest print is 9k copper

[junior dune]

Depends a lot. If they have event food as well and low speed normally it could be significantly more

[wanton obsidian]

That was my print when I was in w3

[teal brook]

il drop in for wood rn and il see how much havent printed at all since w3. got 0 event food tho no evenets since i started

[wanton obsidian]

That's fair make sure to book the log skill

[teal brook]

yep

[wanton obsidian]

Oh I'm guessing your alchemy too

[teal brook]

so it dosent bother me that much? the donide aint that big?

[strong shale]

its not that bad

i got mine to level 11

[teal brook]

my alch i think is ok since i got the bubbles , food and stmap pack

30% seems like alot tho

[strong shale]

my sample % is around ~80-85%

you wanna get that to 90%, you can see it on toolbox

[wanton obsidian]

Drop your ie

Buying a pack won't make your alchemy good U need to focus on specific bubbles

[teal brook]

https://www.idleonefficiency.com/world-2/alchemy

[fast wolf]

the xp is going crazy'

[teal brook]

dat true i am youst working on unlocking new bubbles atm and if i need sumth il go and upgrade it

[strong shale]

go to public profile, upload and send us the link

[woeful loom]

is there a stack cap for storage chest?

[bleak gazelle]

1050m

[woeful loom]

o geez, alright thx!

[wanton obsidian]

I need your ie not that link

[fast wolf]

these guys are scary af

they 1 shot me

[teal brook]

https://nils_peder.idleonefficiency.com

[bleak gazelle]

hope you have range then

[teal brook]

oops typical mistake on my end there

[fast wolf]

yo what?

[strong shale]

they disappear if u leave

[fast wolf]

i went from lvl 100-122 just with a 12hr candy

[strong shale]

kill those guys if u can

get as much accuracy as possible, and use your ranged attacks

[wanton obsidian]

Focus on this

[teal brook]

i popped them pressed to go down to kill them AND NVM i press portal and leave thanks alot

[strong shale]

gg

thats so much candy/possible drop rate card

[wanton obsidian]

@teal brook

Focus on these for mage

[teal brook]

thanks

[wanton obsidian]

For chopping*

[bleak shore]

which card is extra forge cap?

[fast wolf]

once i git gud at w3 tower def ill get void wand

[bleak gazelle]

godshard

[fast wolf]

what are ways to get defense? (apart from fmj)

[teal brook]

that is very helpful

[teal brook]

sheepie card

[wanton obsidian]

@teal brook don't forget to book your maestro hand

[bleak shore]

ty

[wanton obsidian]

Also do your post office

[teal brook]

the 2 hands in maestro tab right?

[wanton obsidian]

The one that gives efficiency specifically

[teal brook]

after i get meastro to 100 should i throw him on skilling or in divinity=?

[strong shale]

🤣 less than 1k an hour and that much exp https://i.imgur.com/ZZTNOfY.png

[wanton obsidian]

I think at that point in your progress you need to focus in divinity

[teal brook]

is there a 3dprint checklist somewhere in the server?

[green ocean]

Party dungeon flurbo shop

[strong shale]

woops was in wrong cards, 2k now

[wanton obsidian]

There is

I don't use it so I'll wait for someone to send it

There we go

@bleak gazelle

[bleak gazelle]

For pure sample rate, check w3 pins. For everything else about skills you can use the skill commands in #bot-commands

There's also this https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084953188647583819

[chrome silo]

Is it better to focus on unlocking all ships and captains, or should I dump some gold into my first ship?

[bleak gazelle]

Card builds here, too
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1090072110879219803

unlock ships/captains unless you feel they're too far away, then upgrade your first few ships

[fast wolf]

xp skyrcoketing

today i went from 35m ph to 170m

[chrome silo]

The W4 > W5 exp transition felt so good

[fast wolf]

oh my accuracy is starting to look real bad tho

[chrome silo]

Way better than W5 > W6 for me

[fast wolf]

how else can i get accuracy?

apart from shaquracy

[wanton obsidian]

Dungeon

[chrome silo]

Bubble 1

[strong shale]

lmao ? https://i.imgur.com/KYqqPy8.png

[wanton obsidian]

@strong shale can I see your ie?

[fast wolf]

bubble1 expensive tho fr

[strong shale]

ya im in the process of moving shit around but ill upload now

https://lowgunn.idleonefficiency.com

im by no means a good player, just a whale with decent decision making

[bleak gazelle]

time to get better prints then

stamps, too

[junior dune]

One of these lines go straight to the start

[strong shale]

LOL

[junior dune]

Line width do go crazy

I think my bubo can connect to the start from litterally anywhere

[strong shale]

these lines look theyd grab you from the dark https://i.imgur.com/FnM2BQS.png

[chrome silo]

Also you can use W5 upgrade stones on Archers to get their main stat, then swap the equipment

[junior dune]

Nope, it can't go longer than this

[bleak gazelle]

Should pump some stamp levels to get a higher chance for gilded

[strong shale]

ya ive been lazy :p been doing that lab/divinity grind

[simple wadi]

Too bad there's literally no point to connection range because Lava decided the nodes would have limited range.

[strong shale]

need to redo my prints once i level all my chars

[craggy relic]

gemshop in bot commands seems prior to W5...what are the priorities after golden sprinkler?

[strong shale]

id watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25bteJumfjg

worth helping this prick? https://i.imgur.com/NMyp7bB.png

[wanton obsidian]

Somehow you're more progressed than me in divinity haha

[strong shale]

or should i get my ES level 250 first

[strong shale]

i have hella exp%

[wanton obsidian]

Yeah wild

[strong shale]

and ive focused solely on exp

not points

[teal brook]

how you get that?

[strong shale]

the meal helped a ton, and sailing

https://i.imgur.com/AXa3TW0.png

[wanton obsidian]

I put all my guys in lab so divinity pretty neglected kinda

[strong shale]

i did lab -> divinity

but i pushed from w4 to w5 in like a week

[teal brook]

damn that multi

[wanton obsidian]

Mine is 213x

But I almost never do divinity

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/3TpXOA2.png

[wanton obsidian]

Wildd

[strong shale]

i love divinity

[teal brook]

how do you get so high multies ? mine is at 2,2 lol

[strong shale]

i love all the w5 skills the most

[wanton obsidian]

Simply divine

[strong shale]

also thats without eldritch artifacts

[wanton obsidian]

I also noticed you have chem plant

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/8G77h1Z.png

yea a few

[wanton obsidian]

I don't have chem plant yet

[strong shale]

pretty sure i got chem plant at like 60 gaming

[wanton obsidian]

Rng isnt kind

I'm at 120 gaming rn

[junior dune]

I haven't watch this one? I wonder if there are more misconceptions being spread here

[wanton obsidian]

No Chem plant

[strong shale]

its 3 weeks old, updated @junior dune

i use it as a grain of salt, but follow through since i can afford almost all of them

[wanton obsidian]

Is it a bad video

[strong shale]

my divinity is high too i have all the gem shop upgrades

[junior dune]

Nice, perhaps it's less bad then

[bleak gazelle]

If it's the latest one that I saw then I think it's this

[strong shale]

yeah

[bleak gazelle]

But since there's no clarification on some things, I still like https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[strong shale]

thats just w5 though

still good though to follow

[bleak gazelle]

Look man, like...if you can't think for yourself by the time you hit w6

[strong shale]

🤣

hey help is always appreciated

[teal brook]

should i print normal logs and toilet paper logs``?

[strong shale]

yeah TP logs are good for CC bubble

soon... https://i.imgur.com/EHw3ya9.png

🤣

[bleak gazelle]

a lot of it just depends on how many gems you have, can get, and what else you already have

normal logs are great for first bubble and atoms

[teal brook]

Gems?

[junior dune]

The main issue with this tier list is that Griffy doesn't really consider the prices much. Makes sense since he is a whale, but that is an issue for most people. No horrible takes yet though

[bleak gazelle]

yes, that was in response to the other conversation

[strong shale]

i could afford most/if not all of the S-A-some B tier with just packs and i still have plenty more to get

plenty more packs*

[teal brook]

1k oak logs to 24k logs 1 print nice

[junior dune]

My biggest gripe right now is saying that all brimforge slots are in S tier. The last 1 will litterally be a 2% increase for 325 gems. That is not good anymore. The main reason people think they are so good is that they are cheap

[strong shale]

right but early game they are good

at least 1-4 of them

[junior dune]

Yeah, a few is good, especially since the first 1 is just 100 gems and 4 was a common recommendation. But now he litterally specify all of them since bars are getting more important

[wanton obsidian]

In the video he says it would be one of the best if it was 1-4 but since you're buying everything it's not as good

It's just the video format

It's 'all' of the upgrade

Like how 1-2 zen cog is S tier but all of them is too expensive

[junior dune]

"It is easily easily S tier for all of them" - Direct quote from Griffy

[wanton obsidian]

Same with the kitchen

[wanton obsidian]

Oh well

[junior dune]

I haven't watched more than like 5 min yet but his discussion on construction slots also makes me doubt if he understands the game. He says they are quite bad early game but good late game. The reverse is true. With the trimmed slots they will eventually give x15 build speed and you have 3 of them. That makes them a bit over 2% build speed increase late game

Even worse when you consider lvl 30 atoms

[strong shale]

yea the trimmed slots are really good

[craggy relic]

i think i'm going to buy the divinity one ahead of some others just because i actually want to play the game again

[strong shale]

yeah i maxed that from like the 2nd god

do not regret 1 bit

[wanton obsidian]

I did

[junior dune]

They are very good for the initial divinity grind and take off afterwards since they are additive. Definitely worth saving a week of suffering on altar or lab though

[wanton obsidian]

Reason why I regret it is cuz I took a break after I parked them in divinity so there was literally no point

[teal brook]

why does my maetro have 40k acc and my BUBO with same lvl has only 3,5K???

[wanton obsidian]

Tools?

[strong shale]

its how my chars hit over level 60 divinity when hitting ~75 lab

[strong shale]

cuz maestros accuracy is luk, and since you stack luk for dmg its higher and bubos is not wisdom

[wanton obsidian]

Oh accuracy woops

[teal brook]

aha

[wanton obsidian]

I thought you were still on about skilling I confused it with efficiency

[teal brook]

yay only 36more H before bear lol

[wanton obsidian]

It be like that

That's why I took a break 😂

[teal brook]

yeah right now i am only waiting for my void prints , salt to accumalate , critters and divinity before i will push

meanwhile i will get everyone to 100 and unlock my 8th char cause nothing better to do

[junior dune]

Bubble cauldrons are far from S tier Griffy. They become literally useless when you get all your bubbles and it is very doable without them. I would put them B tier on his list

[wanton obsidian]

I think you should go back to w1-w4 skills I saw your ie

It feels so rushed

Everything is neglected

[teal brook]

yes ik but i dont have any dmg or accuracy problems so id rather be hardstuck w6 map 1 and start to accumalte everything

[wanton obsidian]

Early game is pretty good since getting 200 lvl for bubo talent is quite hard, took me a long time to get it

[teal brook]

most stuff is half assed cause i drop in for 2min and do what i see and then i do something else havent focused that hard on anything tbf

[wanton obsidian]

Ill just tell you this now, you're gonna waste your time pushing

You won't even be able to kill kruk

[junior dune]

Yeah agreed on that. I would just much rather have so many other things early on, especially now when the early game is getting shorter and shorter.

I think B tier is fair

[teal brook]

i am fairly certain i will have around 30mil dmg when i get to kruk on my DK

[wanton obsidian]

How much dmg do you have now?

[pastel heath]

thats more then enough

[teal brook]

around 4mil on my dk

[strong shale]

omg 300% move speed is so fun

[wanton obsidian]

With how much accuracy ?

[teal brook]

around 70k

with squire ability

[wanton obsidian]

How are you gonna be able to get 30m dmg?

[teal brook]

dementia to chizo , upgrading my weapon. getting some more of my dmg stamps , lvls from pushing , buffs from alch and lab. extra talent points from some skilling

i went from 450k max dmg to 3,8mil when i pusahed through w4

[pastel heath]

didnt even know this was possible

[wanton obsidian]

Dunno if that'll get you 30mil but you can try

[pastel heath]

to get a beginner class

[teal brook]

my cards will carry trust

[wanton obsidian]

How did you get the 3rd slot?

[pastel heath]

its a long proces

but in short rift 51

[wanton obsidian]

Ah alrightt

[pastel heath]

and then pray for the 1% chance

[teal brook]

what whould you suggest i should focus on first to get that dmg?

[wanton obsidian]

Get your skilling prints up first

[pastel heath]

wepons are overrated actually

main source of dmg is alchemy and other buffs that impact the whole account

[junior dune]

Alright, my verdict on the Griffy gem shop tier list is that it's acceptable. As usual he doesn't have a deep understanding of the game and have whale bias, but with a few exceptions things are quite reasonably placed. I much prefer the more nuanced list in IE auto review.

[teal brook]

what you suggesting to print? atm i am youst printing the rrefinery rss and some alch rss

[strong shale]

☺️

6 in lab, vman speedrun soon and im all set

is there any point youd use flutterbis? or is that just there for doot havers

[bleak gazelle]

just for dooters

[strong shale]

could really use that skill exp :p

best use of gilded stamps?

crystal spawn chance -> damage?

[junior dune]

Damage stamps are bad.

[strong shale]

no stamp left behind only effects non misc right

[junior dune]

Auto review have some good recomendations

[junior dune]

I think it's all

[strong shale]

kk ill check there

[bleak gazelle]

anything with shitty mats to farm or where you're hitting inventory cap

and it's all stamps

[junior dune]

If in doubt, matty stamp

[strong shale]

whats matty?

oh nvm i see the carry

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/P15U6Eg.png

damn im doing pretty decent

[junior dune]

If that's your first checking, that looks really good

A lot of people have something they completly missed

[strong shale]

not my first, but i havent checked in a while

def been a few weeks

[livid sonnet]

Where do you check that out at?

[strong shale]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

[bleak gazelle]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

[solar drift]

does mantra only works for character that are connected to the altar ?

[teal brook]

what is a good set i should craft for all of my chars that will last until end game?

[livid sonnet]

Hmm I can’t remember which email I used for the account

[strong shale]

chizoar/troll

[teal brook]

then everyone neglected on divinity/lab until my dk can farm troll yes yes

[bleak gazelle]

the character with mantra has to be on the altar, but when you claim afk gains on other characters, they will receive the bonus xp (regardless of being on the altar or not)

[solar drift]

ohhhh thats nice

[bleak gazelle]

!mantra

[obtuse orbit]

Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.

In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.

(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)

[bleak gazelle]

apparently that's a thing

Ah, okay, so make sure you claim mantra characters first, I guess

[solar drift]

kk thx

[strong shale]

using 1h candies to do my zows while also pushing w4-5 is so nice

[snow dove]

startin on funny bb 100m kill funny quest

i have no kills

[bleak gazelle]

How's the rest of your w1 deathnote look?

[snow dove]

what, there are other w1 mobs ?

[bleak gazelle]

you do all your regular chows?

[snow dove]

i did super chow on rift lmao

didn't take that long i ain't that far

[livid sonnet]

I’m not dootless anymore

[strong shale]

wow grats

[snow dove]

give now

[strong shale]

doot before ram 😬

[livid sonnet]

No I only have one god but it’s mine

[snow dove]

imagine having doot and still ain't broke

[teal brook]

does wisdom do anything for archers

[livid sonnet]

I’m always broke

[snow dove]

@bleak gazelle

kinda imo

[strong shale]

eclipse soon™

[snow dove]

not with my mk

[strong shale]

i believe in you

my tome score about to once i get ~500 more acc levels

[snow dove]

idk what these 2 last are

[bleak gazelle]

last one is fake, not sure why it's still on there

[strong shale]

equinox?

[bleak gazelle]

ram is tedious now that you can't 2 min claim

[snow dove]

no i did ram

[bleak gazelle]

so just wait for mega mk% for zow

that's the off-screen ram in equinox map

[snow dove]

wdym

[bleak gazelle]

there's a ram on the right side of the map (i think top left) that you have to spam click axe to kill

[livid sonnet]

So should I leave my es as active while farming divinity points does it get more for all that way?

[bleak gazelle]

no, div (like lab and cooking) has to be done completely afk. so either close the game completely or play a character that's not doing div

[snow dove]

these ?

[livid sonnet]

oh okay

[snow dove]

do you need to be online for em ?

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, no more afking in equinox

[snow dove]

f

does afk work for the one in doot ?

[bleak gazelle]

nope

[snow dove]

fml

[livid sonnet]

since i have doot should i just take as much time as possible trying to get a bunch of gods? with all characters?

[snow dove]

back to farming clammies on DK

[bleak gazelle]

For now, I would just focus on getting everyone to level 2, then move them back to lab and rotate people in and out to gain levels

You do still want to unlock at least up to Purrmep (god 6) to make someone link to it

Ideally you'll unlock everyone to level their blessings, as well

But since you have Goharut (god 5) unlocked "right away" you can level Div through Lab

[livid sonnet]

so just put everyone in the lab?

[bleak gazelle]

You may want to take a look at this to get an overview, as well #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
You'll still want to make sure to update your characters Div style when you reach those levels

[bleak gazelle]

If they're level 2 Div, then yes

[livid sonnet]

oh okay i have my bb and maestro level one because money and was trying to get vman but once they are level 2 ill switch to lab on all

[bleak gazelle]

You can have those characters still doing w/e, I'd just take a minute to get them to level 2 div first so they get use of all the divine bonuses

It will definitely speed things up

[livid sonnet]

okay cool

so what is causing like the 1hr progress of something when i get on a character for divinity?

[bleak gazelle]

Most likely Omniphau god procs, those will give the exact amount of afk time you claim, but will be rounded to nearest hour

so 2 minutes will show as 1 hour, but still only 2 minutes

[livid sonnet]

ah okay cool thanks

but wait i only have the first god unlocked

[bleak gazelle]

Doesn't matter, you still get the benefits of the other gods even if they're unlocked (except Purrmep)

[sharp badger]

Good evening. I know this captain has poor stats, but if I recruit him, I get the bonuses shown on the right screen. Is it worth it? Thanks.

[bleak gazelle]

If you have any bad captains I'd replace, might be better for w6 chat.

[sharp badger]

Ok thanks, i have one or two bad captain, i will replace

[bleak gazelle]

I think the ender captain bonus stacks (maybe up to 4 times, maybe more)*

[snow dove]

at least you'll get the bonus

[junior dune]

Only up to 4?

I thought it was additive so getting worse the more you have but still giving a bonus

[bleak gazelle]

Oh, it might be more I just saw someone mention 4 earlier, not sure if it's right

[warm pike]

Purrmep acquired

[ivory warren]

at what bit multi should I start working towards the last superbit?

[bleak gazelle]

Probably better to ask in w6 chat

[woeful loom]

um guys is this a bug? I just unlocked eclipse skulls at rift 21 and I have the whole of world 1 and eclipse skull (checked at death note) yet it says I have 0% bonus?

[bleak gazelle]

cloud save and check again

[woeful loom]

that worked! tyvm : )

and with that I hit top 50% tome ranking yey

[bleak gazelle]

Man, that's wild, I'm so far from w1 eclipse but been 50% for a while

[keen pier]

fuck, i see why people shit talk the pong minigame

this is awful, why the hell did lava give it input acceleration

[fallow aurora]

that and random lag spikes

[keen pier]

the lag i hate but like, its not an active design decision at least

input/mouse acceleration is a personal pet peeve that i cannot fathom why devs keep putting into games

it feels like shit, makes me unable to EVER get any kind of muscle memory for the game

[livid sonnet]

So do I need someone in the lab or shrine to get divinity points or can they all go afk other stuff and it be done wirelessly?

[junior dune]

For divinity points yes

But for divinity xp you can do it wirelessly through either mantra with someone else meditating or tranqi once you reach lvl 40

[livid sonnet]

Will I get divinity points if they are in the lab?

[junior dune]

If they are connected to the goat god yes

Then you can get both lab gains and divinity gains at the same time

[livid sonnet]

Ah okay I just unlocked the bear with a 1 percent and gotcha

So just keep grinding it out until goat god

[junior dune]

Yep

It is sadly quite a pain

[livid sonnet]

Well yeah but as long as I can have the lab going for refinery while getting divinity point I’m fine with it for now

[jade nexus]

hi guys what does egg capsules do, the ones from the eggscelent bundle

[fallow aurora]

"Hold down to open for a random reward! Or, hold down for a LONG time to open them faster... yea, dreams do come true #" is what the wiki shows but it doesn't specify the rewards

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/uHLGWhF.png

[jade nexus]

damn it, i neglected my souls for a very long time, I finally used the charges on one character and i've been clicking my inventory for 30 min, and it doesn't look like it's running out soon

[strong shale]

fuck yeah

[lethal aspen]

imagine not all quicking

[jade nexus]

what's that?

[strong shale]

do i save my chem plants for the nugget upgrade, or just send it

[jade nexus]

i have the base capacity for souls sad, 30+ per inventory slot

[strong shale]

im at a 5% nugget of my max

[lethal aspen]

lick it and send it

[jade nexus]

and the last time I took them all out was last week

[strong shale]

[lethal aspen]

a button that uses all your charge and puts it in storage directly

should see it at the w3 thingy in town

[strong shale]

need the MSA from automation arm

[jade nexus]

I think i dont have it yet, i just got the food arm

[strong shale]

yea thats next

[jade nexus]

faaaaaaak i think it'll take my foerever

[strong shale]

damn, only closest nugget i got was 4.5k

and my nug highest is 8.5k/300k

[marsh crescent]

So weird question, i feel like my ES lvl 374 is finally at a point where the gains are abysmal. only 450 million damage.... but should i be moving my alts and lvling them up for the other abilities?

for like orb on DK and coins on Siege

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/mGRQmIy.png

sad nugget

[kindred dagger]

Nothing sad about that. You dodged a bullet.

[strong shale]

i dont have the equinox

so anything wouldve been good

[solar seal]

the related orb and pk skills won't increase your damage. you'll likely find most of your gains in skills (i.e. better and more sailing artifacts, w6 skills - if you've unlocked w6, cooking, alch, stamps etc)

[marsh crescent]

yea ive been doing that... but there is an ability on siege and dk that gives damage based on how many things they have... like the portal affects other characters from how im understanding it

[solar seal]

PK increases account DR while orb count increases 3d printing

only ES wormhole count is for damage

[marsh crescent]

ahhh but each one affect other characters i got what you mean!

[solar seal]

yeah their 3 talents are account wide but for different bonuses. each also has a related 1M achievement but you'll likely have hard time getting to SB's. its the one most people will miss

[gilded pond]

[strong shale]

is it fine to have a 5h time for an island to unlock

knocked it down to 3h

assuming the 13th and 14th island will come after i discover the 12th

[zinc torrent]

wurms or citringes for sb?

[bleak gazelle]

citringes

[toxic saddle]

Was that your old pfp, or was it something similar 🤔

[zinc torrent]

something similar

[strong shale]

wew 2 more summoning rounds done, and a new crop !

[toxic saddle]

[strong shale]

now in my lab/divinity + rift phase

[toxic saddle]

Yikes

[stuck river]

can anyone help for king doot? We need 1 mage

[pseudo bison]

can you spawn giant mobs faster on a high multikill mob?

[stuck river]

no

It depends on the mob real kill

[wanton obsidian]

Is this a good card set for bubo ?

[bleak gazelle]

if you can get your DR to the next odd number that should be better than the money% cards

[wanton obsidian]

Next odd number? Wdym

[wanton obsidian]

Is that a hidden mechanic?

[bleak gazelle]

something with how DR works, should be able to serach discord for it

[wanton obsidian]

Can you specify what you mean by odd number?

Like 11x 13x ?

Or 12.1x

The last digit?

Or odd whole number?

[bleak gazelle]

odd whole number

[wanton obsidian]

Can you help me find it?

[rancid zephyr]

wrong channel

[wanton obsidian]

Huh?

[bleak gazelle]

Uhh here's some #idleon-gen-chat message
#endgame-chat-w7🐟 message
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[junior dune]

I don't know where to find it but essentially money is a 1/2 drop. If you have 2 Dr it becomes guaranteed that all kills drop money. After that drops will only increase in multiples and round to the nearest whole number. That mean 3 Dr should giver 3/2=1.5 money drops but rounds up to double money and 5/2=2.5 rounds up to triple money. Same logic is applied at all odd numbers. The same kind of thing can happen with base mob drops resulting in very large increases at certain values. Multikill is obviously more important there though. Also please take all this with a grain of salt. I'm not certain I remember everything correctly

[candid ice]

https://i.imgur.com/D4uPpyW.png

probably a little out of date

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/5f_3Y_ZET0FMp-t2wj9eTgk-DcI5GiC1tFf92y_vHL8/https/i.imgur.com/dQM9p1q.png?format=webp&quality=lossless&width=232&height=566

Compliments of @dapper prism, not me 🙂

[bleak gazelle]

when is trickz just going to share his whole library

[wanton obsidian]

Rn I have 15x dr but I had to use the prayer that increases the hp of mobs

Tho I can 1 hit I don't have multi kill anymore

Is no multi kill worth it for the x15 dr?

[lethal aspen]

you dont need multikill for money anyway

[junior dune]

I have clearly messed something up here

[wanton obsidian]

I thought you do?

[dapper prism]

you should also actually share it with the note i usually write

It is pretty old and unsure how outdated it is or if it is outdated.

[wanton obsidian]

There's a star talent that gives money % based on multi kill tier no?

[lethal aspen]

its additive money% so

it additive* with the cooking money% talent

[wanton obsidian]

Not worth noting?

I just thought it was worth it since I had 7 multi kill without the prayer

[dapper prism]

also btw that's not even actually my sheet, it is a copied version i put into my stuff for organization, but you can easily find that on the discord

[bleak gazelle]

There's the notes
#endgame-gen-chat message

[lethal aspen]

I still remember when that chart only went up to 8x

[candid ice]

Im my head, all sheets are Trickz sheets.

Missed u bby

[dapper prism]

**Money Multipliers / Addtivie vs Multiplicative Sheet: ** (tags to find it easier)
This is an example for money multi

• It is old and probably outdated and not sure how accurate anymore.
• As an example, things within a group are additive, the groups with each other are multiplicative.
• • You can see how good certain things are for money multi, such as gmush kills.
• There is nothing like this for effy afaik, but even then for effy you just want to max all sources of effy.
  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rU1V21io6jkYNseBxZSAy9BK-B_t7TAlCDfMHNierSo/edit#gid=0
  https://i.imgur.com/RUJOO4m.png

[bleak gazelle]

every day i find something new

[lethal aspen]

Just use toolbox for money multi

[junior dune]

The biggest take away from this feels like money equipment and cards likely are less good than you would expect since group 7 is huge. Especially if you have golden bread on the stalk

[candid ice]

I have like, FOUR MONTHS of attachment posts to scroll through. So much new stuff for me to read and learn.

I haven't played since prior to W6 release

[lethal aspen]

all stat% or go home

[dapper prism]

DR

gotta get those statues from dk

[wanton obsidian]

Honestly very useful Ty, I think I'll drop my dr to 13x instead so I can use the jaw breaker prayer

[dapper prism]

you should read the chat a few lines up

[junior arrow]

read.... how dare you use such curse words, thats a bannable offense here

[candid ice]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-just-so-many-things-shea-whitney-theres-a-lot-so-much-stuff-plenty-of-things-gif-25299053

[wanton obsidian]

I was reading all of it

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, I came back...2 months ago now? after being gone for a few months and saw that you were gone

[dapper prism]

Ohhh nooooo, MOD ABUSE!
HELP ME LAVA!!!! Here take my Jade!

[wanton obsidian]

Am I missing something?? Isn't jawbreaker prayer a multiplier of it's own? Why am I being flamed

[short sparrow]

Finally made it to alch 80 hooray

[candid ice]

I don't think you're being flamed, I think he was just pointing out that some of the material referenced is dated and could be inaccurate to the current state of the game and was making sure you didn't miss that part

It's also possible that Jawbreaker is grouped with other things now, without it being common knowledge; as the resources provided are very aged. It's also possible that it's still a completely unique multi.

Just people playing it safe and making sure they aren't providing the wrong direction without being able to say "I tested this myself" 🙂

[wanton obsidian]

I went on toolbox to check, and yes my money % went up by almost double

[main tulip]

Just got Goat, now what?

[bleak gazelle]

now you throw all your div slaves on goat and back to lab

mantra if you need to level other people, otherwise w/e your best style is

swap them out as needed to get div/lab levels on everyone

[candid ice]

The entire time I was gone, my entire family was on lab

[bleak gazelle]

gotta get them 2100 lab levels somehow

[harsh glen]

why 2100?

[candid ice]

[bleak gazelle]

w6 lab jewels

[harsh glen]

its going to be fun with my max lab lv 10

[candid ice]

The more I hear that I need to do in W6.... the less I want to do it

[bleak gazelle]

good ol 2 minute afk claims for godshard

[harsh glen]

i hope to get divinity artifact from #4 island to get goat faster

[candid ice]

Over 2 years of candy. I will never lmao

[main tulip]

But my their my 3d printer slaves

Wait how does it work?

[bleak gazelle]

link with goat

sit in lab

get lab/div gains

[harsh glen]

mantra is style u got diffrent amount of div points / xp for diffrent style mantra gives 0 points and 1 xp /h for all characters even one that isnt in lab/div

[bleak gazelle]

oh sorry, thought he meant goat

!mantra

[obtuse orbit]

Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.

In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.

(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)

[wide swallow]

should i keep trying with my dk or should i swap and work on my es ? i heard its ez with es

[lethal aspen]

what are you doing?

[wide swallow]

tryna kill world 5 boss

i heard u can do it with 20 mil if its on es

[lethal aspen]

DK and ES are both as easy, so if your struggling on dk i doubt it'll help to swap immediately. You should work on him anyway

Probably talent levels stopping you

[wide swallow]

yes that too ive just gotten to 160 max lvl also do these bubs apply to all toons ?

[wide swallow]

so do i take es out and grind him thru world 5 maps while working on him ?

[lethal aspen]

Yes, but they get multiplied by the 2nd bubble so purple chars get more effect

What is he even doing atm

[wide swallow]

there is 9 of them grinding in lab as i just got goat god

do i put dk back on lab nd take es out ?

[lethal aspen]

Oh i have my pet ready, just take them both out

pls gib doot

💀

[wide swallow]

GOOD LUCK

FUCK

mine is in 7 hours

[sly cedar]

So I was just reading that spreadsheet on money up above, very helpful to have it all laid out like that,

is there a similar one for DR?

i feel like its time for me to work on DR some more but i find it tough to figure out what to work on next even with idleon insight

[bleak gazelle]

Doesn't have W6 stuff but should be fine to use #1141880730411094106 message

[sly cedar]

lol

ty

ah i didnt know about that thread. cheers

time to splice i guess, and get a slime shiny

is it worth keeping protectors prides for late w6? or not necessary?
i just killed a bunch of doots and so have a bunch of trimmed platelegs.
just wondering if i should just scrap em? or make into protectors prides and hold onto em.
i made one for slab already

so just scrap the platelegs?

[sinful aurora]

It's a bad ring. Theres more than enough sources of defense to complete w8 already.

[warm finch]

Wait until lava makes the defence needed like 1 q

[stuck halo]

WOOOO I just went from 209 ->327 -> 1108 gold nugget from one click

[sly cedar]

thought so. just wanted to check since it would take a few weeks of eyes to get back the 20 platelegs

[stuck halo]

This is going to speed up gaming a lot

[sly cedar]

grats, yeah always nice to make big nugget gains

[candid ice]

4 months gone and I still can't even get a 25% tithe

[dusky hedge]

https://i.imgur.com/5Ym1rNK.png

[livid sonnet]

You don’t need 25 percent just be like me and get back to back 1%

Which god do I need that I can get lab and divinity gains without actually being in both?

[gentle furnace]

I just reached rank 4 couple weeks ago

[dusky hedge]

the goat god, but I believe you don't get lab gains, as in exp. theyre just there to activate bonuses

[gentle furnace]

When you connect to goat god being in lab gives both lab and div exp

[livid sonnet]

And that’s the 5th one right?

[dusky hedge]

ah yes youd be right, I was thinking of the bear that counts you as 'active' but gaining no exp

[livid sonnet]

Gotcha and does the purple in 3d printer come from rabbit god?

Does having Doot give you all the gods bonuses even if you don’t have the gods unlocked yet?

oh so i def need to go do some new sampling then

[gentle furnace]

Get easy resources card set to the highest you can if you haven't

[livid sonnet]

havent done sampling in a minute

[mossy stratus]

is the blessing part from worship active even when not connected to the god?

[sinful aurora]

Always active.

[mossy stratus]

cool ty

[bright meteor]

just got ancient on all artifacts including the other lamps and unlocked turtoise vial so I got to x100 arti chance (still small Ik)

[mossy stratus]

is there a global time for when 3d printer is supposed to proc?

[zinc torrent]

its just every ingame hour or printer go brr skill of mman

[mossy stratus]

oh i guess i just messed up my ingame timer with stopwatches

[zinc torrent]

tbh just dont worry

[mossy stratus]

was just stalling on my ES before switching my god back

[oak crane]

Trying to increase damage, is crit damage used in kills per hour calculations

[woeful loom]

is there a time limit to kill snakenhotep 3? (for equinox)

[opal flower]

Is all 10 characters on mantra best way to level divinity?

[junior dune]

Nope, not if you can reach them which will be hard with too little damage

[woeful loom]

I beat the boss but yea it took a while :p

[sly cedar]

no

only affects active play

[solar seal]

early on, it will likely be the best way - but it does hard tether you to div altar or lab jail

[lament hearth]

Does Polytheism do anything if you have the King Doot Pet?

For Elemental Sorcerer

[brisk vector]

Hello

[toxic saddle]

Hello

[bleak gazelle]

I've been rolling for rank 1 for 2-3 weeks now and I swear I've seen more 10%s than all the previous gods combined. Still no 100%

[quiet pewter]

the div boost still works, but the god doesnt matter

[bleak gazelle]

Believe it's based off when you built your printer, but various things affect it like Omniphau procs. IT will show you when your next one is though
#endgame-chat-w7🐟 message

[lament hearth]

I honestly forgot there was a secondary bonus.

[heavy jackal]

Are there Build for LVL 450 + ?

[mossy stratus]

hey which of these 2 skills increases my shamans poison damage?

[junior dune]

Left

[mossy stratus]

tyty

[junior dune]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml#

Right would increase damage when mobs touch the farts

[mossy stratus]

oh that makes sence, do those flying clouds not drop poison?

[junior dune]

They do, but the damage the poison do is determined by the other skill

So usually you have the poison throwing skill maxed but not in the toolbar

[lethal aspen]

my first one isn't complete garbage

[gentle furnace]

way better than mine

[junior dune]

I mean, rare chest chance and loot value are the only traits that aren't useless in the end game

[bleak gazelle]

i think that's two days in a row

lul cost scaling

[junior dune]

That is a lot higher than mine

I wish I was gettomg good stamp upgrades

[bleak gazelle]

still only this in shop

[junior dune]

I guess I've been saving some anvil mats, but nothing properly good

If I wasn't saving up cost reduction for a crystal chance lvl I would upgrade it right now

[bleak gazelle]

what are you up to for that?

[bleak gazelle]

just a bit behind

[junior dune]

It has diminishing returns, but all crystal chance is welcome

[steady spruce]

need moar discount ><

[junior dune]

How big atom discount is that?

[steady spruce]

not enough

80%

[junior dune]

Almost 1B bricks

[gentle furnace]

you need to have multiple stacks of bricks for them

[junior dune]

I should probably start hourly clicking the anvil bubble

[gentle furnace]

how underleveled is yours

[steady spruce]

i've only got 1 hammer working on bricks on each char at the moment because i need to finish greenstack cords and pipes, but then i'll be going all in on bricks

[junior dune]

Very, but I'm not nearly as far along as well

[bleak gazelle]

uhh, yeah

[junior dune]

Perhaps I should have resampled on this character earlier...

And I barely tried optimizing it even

[flint nova]

Anyone got tips for leveling up divinity fast/getting divinity points fast?

[woeful loom]

I am beginning to suffer the side effects of not keeping up to speed on my refinery really badly,
I need so many salts for everything on Page 4 anvil but I am straight broke on salts 😅

[gentle furnace]

upgrade blessings, get artifacts and use better styles

[bleak gazelle]

Here's all the divinity exp modifiers (or should be all)
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=divinity exp

If you're new to W5, welcome in, Div is another long time-gate similar to W4 Lab. Check out this 📌 for a primer on Div #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

To note: If you're still level 1/getting low xp/hr, make sure you don't check in before the hour rolls over so you don't miss out on any xp due to rounding shenanigans.

[mossy stratus]

yo anyone konw what plate lvl void pearl plate is?

[gentle furnace]

22

[mossy stratus]

ty

[teal brook]

so what do i do with my 8 and 9th character i am completely lost?

[bleak gazelle]

In terms of what, class choice? What to actually do with them? Level them up, get their elites, get their lab/div levels up, get their skill levels up, get prints on them

[teal brook]

i am prolly making it a warrior heard that is optimal. then i will lvl and get a blood beserker but idk what a second one will do to my account. is it a lab/divinity slave for progression. do i use it to farm drops does he stay afk in cooking🗿 idk

[wide swallow]

[toxic forge]

How does one increase it's god rank? I've unlocked all gods but I wonder if I unlock the god ranks the same way I did with gods?

[quiet pewter]

yes the same way, the odds/cost get bad really fast though

[toxic forge]

I saw that I needed 100m points 💀

[gusty talon]

What's the command to see the builds for each world?

[bleak gazelle]

I'd recommend a 2nd DK over 2nd BB

[teal brook]

why 2 SB i was thinking 2BB ,2 dk , 2ES

[quiet pewter]

too many warriors

3 each base class, gives you best chance or covering odds for unreleased classes

the 2BB is the real problem there though, a second BB is useless and also buggy

[bleak gazelle]

2SB due to how easily they can get damage and can help with bar forging through their tab 2 talent

[teal brook]

does it stack?=

[bleak gazelle]

yes, because they each have their own afk claims

[quiet pewter]

none of their abilities stack (apart from there jsut being 2 of them, but i wouldnt call that stacking)

[teal brook]

both of these work afk right `? and forging is important late game?

[quiet pewter]

it bascially ONLY works afk. active you get base kill, afk you get mk, so not comparable

[teal brook]

so i youst lvl a warrior to make him my second dk? and then use him for what?

[teal brook]

multikill dosent work active???

[bleak gazelle]

construction gains

[quiet pewter]

mk works active, but not for that talent, or specific quests

[teal brook]

oh okay now i see why but is it SB or ES at char 9?

[bleak gazelle]

typically the construction gains would be prioritized over a second SB/ES

as your 8th character

[teal brook]

second DK is my 8th buit for my 9th=

i forgot abt char unlocking so i am only 7lvls away from 9 too lol

[quiet pewter]

second ES is also strong for the double god (if you doot-less), but id agree with acecow that second DK first

[bleak gazelle]

I'd probably go with the second SB first so you can have someone on sailing preset all the time?

Especially since I think you have goat unlocked, right?

So the extra div points aren't super needed at the moment

[teal brook]

he anyway on divinity or in lab so idont think he have much downtime

[teal brook]

nah i get bear unlocked in a few H

2 weeks from goat i whould guess

[bleak gazelle]

Ah, well, either way then might be beneficial. Still probably leaning towards SB to help with sailing gains. Now that you have bear soon, you could potentially do some stuff with your first SB

[teal brook]

apart from some catching i havent seen a good use for him active. DK to push , ES to farm , bubo for alch and BM for catching. my SB is pretty much afk at all times only crafting or divinity

[bleak gazelle]

gotta stack those plunderous kills

but also just throwing him on gmush to help with your deathnote and money gains

[quiet pewter]

yeah SB is mostly an afk class. long term its DK statue/ cyrstal grinds, ES rare drop grinds, and BC alchemy grinds, SB doesnt get much of a look in

its still a useful afk/candy class for deathnote/forge

[teal brook]

is amarok with w5 stones accetabel to use until i can efficently farm the rss for troll on everyone?

[steady spruce]

you should be able to blast through some chiz kills to make some easy chiz armor as a stepping stone

troll is a bit more of a jump because you're sat waiting for nullo salts

[teal brook]

i will ,make chiz for my main pusher youst waiting for some salts but getting it on every char atm whould take ages

youst need something to throw on my others to make em get enough acc

[green ocean]

Honestly as long as your alch and stamps are even halfway decent you mostly need to update the weapons. I don’t think I had anyone above plat armor by the time I finished w5

[steady spruce]

amarok with w5 stones set by a different class so you get the secondary stat for acc works as a bandaid

[teal brook]

working on that atm while i wait afk for divinity and salts

[woeful loom]

If your prints overflow the max storage cap will you still get the atoms for the excess or is the excess considered void?

[gentle furnace]

Automatically converted into atoms

[woeful loom]

oh that's good news, I was wondering how people were getting millions of atoms :p
ty!

[bleak gazelle]

For clarification, it'll stack above 1050m in the chest and convert to atoms when you change maps...or I assume when you change characters, as well

[quiet pewter]

not that it matters, but for completness, it will also drop when the printer ticks every hour

[woeful loom]

how many minutes do you have to wait to claim afk rewards?

[bleak gazelle]

Ah, thank you! I swore i noticed it drop once when I hadnt changed maps but w6 chat called me crazy

[bleak gazelle]

2 minutes

[woeful loom]

ty

[bleak gazelle]

Just be advised for some procs (omniphau, bubbles, hampters) they will round to the nearest hour, but you only get what you actually claimed

[fast wolf]

5m --> 7m

10m soon

[potent gust]

OMG FINALLY

AFTER MONTHS WITH A STUPID NUGGET SIZE

ok lol went from 60B to 800B instant. ok.

ok

And because of that.

[oblique zinc]

Sailing level up just slow?

Or beginning sailing just slow?

[quiet pewter]

sailing is a grind

[oblique zinc]

Just wanted to make sure I wasn’t doing something dumb at the beginning

Guess it’s time to time sink into divinity and lab for the next year

[bleak gazelle]

All w4/5 skills are pretty slow to start

[hollow lodge]

Should I craft this?

[toxic stream]

Probably. I do weapons before armor but that's me

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, weapons are always good as they'll go into the next tier

[toxic stream]

Void salts are going to be a pretty rough gate for a while, needed for all that tier of weapons and the troll armor

[bleak gazelle]

You can probably skip diabolical armor since it deadends there and instead build troll

[hollow lodge]

Ohh and it this a good load out for sneaking

[hollow lodge]

Am already there

[worn bay]

I am stuck att W5 and really confused about what should I do fisrt can anyone check my idleon efficiency and tell me what should I do?

[hollow lodge]

Haven't unlocked the next tier yet

[bleak gazelle]

doesn't really matter. diabolical is pretty shit since it's all defense bonus

good for slab

[hollow lodge]

Damn... And here I thought it was good

[bleak gazelle]

good if you only want to take less damage

[hollow lodge]

Damn... Well I guess it's good for now since am grinding world 5 and not 6

[bleak gazelle]

You'll still want to start prepping to make some troll armor as it upgrades into the next tier of stuff, too, but for the most part, armor doesn't matter too much from w3-late w6

[hollow lodge]

sounds like it's gonna take a while to be able to craft the armor

Well... I need some advice on where to farm statues

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, some of it is kind of annoying (stupid twine)

[hollow lodge]

Well.... I need some advice on where to farm statues

Currently in world 1

[bleak gazelle]

📌 has you covered for all of that. Should be the 4th one down

Most of it is done with a crystal farm setup with DK using Chocolately Chip

[hollow lodge]

Thanks for the info

[teal brook]

why does my ES deal almost 10million more dmg then my DK with worse gear lower lvls and everything not optimized? any reason to push w5 with DK then if ES does so much more dmg=?

[bleak gazelle]

Something about how talents affect sheet damage. Either one is fine

[worn bay]

simply because ES scale with stamps found

[teal brook]

AHH thats right my ES gets +370% i see

[crimson thistle]

what is a good kph for chowing

[red scarab]

If I have gilded stamps, how do I not use them? Seems like it will automatically be used when upgrading the next stamp

[teal brook]

how do you get gilded stamps?

[zinc torrent]

u automatically use them

[zinc torrent]

rift

[red scarab]

Dam. Aight.

What do you all use it on?

Was using it to increase monster capacity.

[zinc torrent]

i always go for crystal spawn

[red scarab]

Been neglecting stamps. I’m on 4.5k lvls.

[zinc torrent]

or matty stamp

[red scarab]

Yeah? What level is your crystal spawn?

[zinc torrent]

170?

guilded + atom helps to lower cost

[teal brook]

worth to farm batteries for rift when im prepping to push w5?

[worn bay]

what is your damage?

you would need at least 40mil dmg to kill the boss\

I am stuck there with 22mil damage so you can TYT

[teal brook]

got around 8mil atm hoping to get around 15-20 with upgrades , stamps , alch, lab etc before i push

[worn bay]

you will push with DK?

[south agate]

what would cause this big of a cost difference? the cauldron upgrades and cost reduction bubbles are similar, and p2w is maxes

[bleak gazelle]

are you on a mage?

[south agate]

oh shit does that matter lmao

[solar seal]

when i chowed, i think i did 3-4hrs max/map so ~250k. if you mean superchow, good threshold is ~5M kph so its ~1day/map

[solar seal]

when you compare bubble costs, you have to consider what class you are on due to bargain bubbles

[bleak gazelle]

Yes, first three cauldrons have three bonuses that work together to reduce costs for their respective classes

Bubbles 2, 15, and 17

[solar seal]

if you are on a warrior, orange bubbles are cheaper - but all others will be more expensive and vice versa for archers and mages

[worn bay]

wait what

[solar seal]

you use this to make it cheaper to get to 100m for atom range -> then atom when you are on opposite class so its faster to get into atom range

[worn bay]

FR!

[south agate]

well, at least i know now lol, ive been farming caps on es to upgrade warrior bubbles lol

makes sense now tho

[solar seal]

yeah make sure to upgrade when you are on that respective class - then double check on non-class onec you are close to atom range

the difference between costs can be quite significant

[teal brook]

what lvl should cranium cooking be before i try to bubo farm its only 53 atm

[solar seal]

the threshold before CC takes off is actually whether you can hit level 200 on tenteyecle, not on CC itself

[primal nacelle]

Hi w5 people

[south agate]

a 10x difference for me lol, 24k on warrior and 240k on my es

[teal brook]

if i got it at 200 do i need to be at wurms and farm them eff? or are there any other mobs that also good to farm

[bleak gazelle]

wurms > oj > flombs > cans

[solar seal]

you may get one shot by worms early, so may need some health (red) pots

[woeful loom]

icl I am still so lost after returning from my long break I might just restart the game entirely with a fresh account
did lava do any rebalancing to the early game?

[worn bay]

my Maestro is at LVL150 and his with skills lvl25 should I upgrade it into lvl 30 or start farming the 12mil green mushroom

[solar seal]

if you are at least w4/5, i suggest putting all your chars either on divinity or lab - and then you can mess around on a new account until you get familiar and can always return to your first account

[echo crag]

get character slot slower now, and hes working on some other stuff for next patch

[worn bay]

it became mush easier but harder to make new charchters

[bleak gazelle]

Upgrade your skills, you get a decent chunk of damage based on your lowest one

[woeful loom]

oh I see, I mean that is probably for the best though I remember having too many chars to know what to do with :P

[worn bay]

should I scale my skills before farming 12 mil?

[bleak gazelle]

I mean

If you get more damage from skilling

And damage helps you kill gmush faster

[woeful loom]

yea good idea, my lab is mostly explored but I think my mistake was I used the time candies I saved up to rush to w6 and got information overload with all the old and new mechanics 😂

[bleak gazelle]

Then maybe it might be a good idea to?

[worn bay]

sure

should I stop at lvl 30?

[solar seal]

in other games, i tend to do this alot. make 1st account/char that i "learn" on and do everything wrong - then use 2nd char/account to do things properly/optimized. but with this game, considering how many systems are time gated - its a nice idea, but you are so weak and slow in beginning, it is so painful

[bleak gazelle]

Up to you, skill levels on maestro are never a waste. Idk how many kph you're getting or what your plan to get everything done is

[echo crag]

even with knowledge your looking at about 3month to get back to w6

[woeful loom]

nah I'll just spend $500 for doot 😂

(/j I am never doing that)

[echo crag]

guide for what ?

[worn bay]

I get 35 kph

35k kph lol

[bleak gazelle]

Hey now, not quite $500 if you recycle

[woeful loom]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thousand-yard-stare-thousand-yard-stare-cat-ptsd-cat-soldier-cat-war-gif-9110270742088459827

[solar seal]

acecow with the nice sheet images :x

[bleak gazelle]

thanks trickz

[woeful loom]

mby the game will feel more rewarding if I F2P it

[teal brook]

is this a complete troll or can it be ok with best upgrade stones?

[solar seal]

its good like w1... 5% is

[teal brook]

if your lvl 30 and stuck w1 you got problems lol

[bleak gazelle]

now you link all your div slaves to goat and throw them in lab jail again

[worn bay]

35K is good or should I go for scaling?

[south agate]

how big of a difference do the un-upgraded versions of the lab rings/shoes make?

[bleak gazelle]

I mean, that's 342 hours, so if you want to throw some cosmic candy at it or just wait that long you can. Like I said, skill levels are never a waste on your maestro though

[worn bay]

sure boss

[solar seal]

if you can reach next tier using them, big difference

[solar seal]

is your mman linked to nobi? - if not, maybe wait for your unlink

[south agate]

i took everyone out of lab to catch up on skilling, think im going to farm the lab stuff before throwing them back in

[solar seal]

if you do make one set of upgraded gear, i'd put them on your bubo - can use their talents to help keep the lab level of the 1 you kep out of lab leveled up

you need 2100 account level to get all 3 w6 lab jewels - so its something you need to work on, regardless

[worn bay]

I am linked to snehabtu can't do unlink now

[junior dune]

They can be big. Especially since the lab xp bonus is quite undiluted, but since you lose the base lab efficiency it may be quite bad if you are early w5

[solar seal]

i'd wait until you can link to nobi before you do your mush grind then. can always get some while you wait, but if you candy - def wait for nobi

[gray cradle]

Does anyone know if theres a tool or something to predict what captains you will get each reset in sailing?

[junior dune]

I've even seen some people lose xp from upgraded lab rings

[solar seal]

its 100% random, no tool

[gray cradle]

shucks, thanks tho

[solar seal]

sorry, account laboratory levels, not regular level

[worn bay]

I will skill up untile next unlink might get all skills LVL30 first

[solar seal]

thats why we call it lab 2.0 jail

[solar seal]

if you have spare balloons, go dump them on your mman - you'll always get more of those suckers

[teal brook]

is that to link to them or get them?

[solar seal]

to get them

[bleak gazelle]

get them for free

[teal brook]

so i can buy them from gem store?

[bleak gazelle]

you can also buy them in the jewel rotation, but lul

[worn bay]

I have alot 🙂

[junior dune]

Nope not the w6 ones

[solar seal]

they are excluded from the jewel gamba

[teal brook]

[solar seal]

either you wait months to gather w6 spices, or you just do lab grind

1 is definitely shorter than the other

[junior dune]

I'm getting close to getting the second w6 jewel now

[livid sonnet]

Am I crazy or does it seem like crabs are the sorcerers critters

[junior dune]

Perhaps I should optimize lab xp a bit, but I haven't bothered yet

[teal brook]

WHY w6 spicies?

[solar seal]

w6 jewels requires 10k of w6 spices - if you get them from game shop

[junior dune]

That will take literally a year

[teal brook]

aha i now see why cooking and breeding is actually useful

[solar seal]

cooking is like alch 2.0, neglect at your own peril - breeding is the engine that drives cooking forward, so also neglect at your own peril

hope everyone has 5k crystal caverns spices for tomorrow jewel

[bleak gazelle]

I actually do

[solar seal]

if not, i'd start prepping nebulon mantle for ~month from now

[bleak gazelle]

should be able to get this one done by next month too

[solar seal]

you need like ~100/day to get it in time, requires like ~3-4M pet power if you check a few times a day

[solar seal]

yeah you gucci

[junior dune]

Should be significantly less with converter

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, i finally got converters everywhere so i'm good

[lusty fjord]

Bagur and Kattlekruk link bonuses when

[bleak gazelle]

not that I click that much or eaven check afk

[south agate]

is cookie not coming into rotation in june anymore?

[solar seal]

converter is pretty deep into w3, so i try to see what it is w/o it

[bleak gazelle]

no, it was a false alarm

[solar seal]

june choco is the white whale

[bleak gazelle]

3 skill afk chips almost in a row though

I should probably save up some bags/eyes

[teal brook]

converter?

[solar seal]

i mean, thats only 2 days worth of buying

[solar seal]

bopbox pet - gives free spices

[junior dune]

You don't buy them daily?

[south agate]

I bought out gem chips yesterday just to try lol, didnt get cookie but got card and trophy doubler

[bleak gazelle]

nah, don't feel like crafting them

no desire to do mini bosses

[junior dune]

They are a big source of gems and candy

[bleak gazelle]

even the 4 listed on IT are a slog

[solar seal]

acecow doesn't like miniboss DN i guess :x

[junior dune]

I can't bother orb stacking for them though

[bleak gazelle]

love when I stack orb so high then i'm off by like one hit and lose it all

i should just do it on vman

[solar seal]

:3 don't risk it, i do it with like 30 seconds to spare

but i'm more risk averse than most people here

[strong shale]

Imma do them on vman tbh

I usually do em with like 20-30s to spare, as anything is better than nothing

[teal brook]

not sure if i should cop any thoughts?

[strong shale]

Gotta save for the next jewel in a few weeks

Got lucky w my random gem shop gems

[bleak gazelle]

Pretty good wings and gem amount

[solar seal]

if you don't have the gold flower wings, this is a good alternative. buy if you do'nt mind the 💳

[bleak gazelle]

Also +2 slab if you don't have wings/card pack

[paper sail]

Those Angel Wings are 2nd best AFK wings available. The only better option is a gamble, never guaranteed in a bundle

[teal brook]

got the gold flower card packs are meh the gems could help but i got most uogrades already

[paper sail]

Sounds like a skippable one then

[strong shale]

Are card packs +1 slab

Those for you*

[teal brook]

maybe i get later in week if i feel like i need can never have too many wings

[strong shale]

You can always use wings, are you dooted?

[teal brook]

no but i have 5 already so starting to not have a good use for them many times

not often i need the same wing at the same time

especially with 2 phenix wings already

[strong shale]

Well thats for afk gains, could use for skilling and combat

Phoenix is only for combat

[teal brook]

got starflower for afk gains and riftwalker if needed

[strong shale]

Ooo

[paper sail]

They shouldn't be- W4 and W5 card packs can be slabbed for free from the Vman questline

[strong shale]

Noted

[solar seal]

rip dungeon card pack

[strong shale]

Got my slab of that

-1 pack :[

[teal brook]

i shouldent bother with vman until i progress my account a bit into w6 right?

[strong shale]

Vman helps even in w4

[bleak gazelle]

You're at the point where getting it now would be beneficial

I would at least look at the requirements

[teal brook]

then ig he is going to be thrown into some monster farming for xp

1mil deathnote mostly done 50% in all worlds from ES farming drops and Chizo kill is free

[strong shale]

I hadnt realized how easy pushing portals is on all my alts after getting progressed so far

All my dudes doing like double digit mk in w4

[teal brook]

why moinster rating so pain to get. 1000 and i only have 100 at this point

[strong shale]

Go farm sandcastles

[solar seal]

that is the entire reason why 1 fast pusher strat is effective - later worlds make pushing on rest of account 10x easier

[strong shale]

Pretty sure monster ratings drop more from w2 mobs

[solar seal]

that is one of those quests i will never finish on my ES. just let them passively gain them whenever i need to do some w2 farming in the hopes of someday greenstacking them

[teal brook]

15 rating from 1h candy 🧏‍♂️ yeah that quest aint gonne be completed

[solar seal]

[junior dune]

Killing efaunt is a great way to get them for the quest

[junior dune]

[teal brook]

dont have nearly any havent done the questline for any characters do i get alot from doot?

[junior dune]

Depends on dr, but yeah quite a few

[teal brook]

only have abt 3,5x

[junior dune]

And do the quest on all characters

[solar seal]

doesn't look like it's on doots table

its on biggie hours though

[junior dune]

It is the reverse

[solar seal]

but wiki can be wrong

[junior dune]

Oh, I was talking about keys

[solar seal]

das fine, just answering his original question re: doot

[south agate]

is 8k seconds bad for cc? honestly never focused on it until now cause im water locked lol

[wanton obsidian]

Oh hey 100%

[solar seal]

anything is good. nothing is bad.

[bleak gazelle]

For now, you'll probably just want to CC when it naturally comes off of CD

[cyan pulsar]

how do you get eldritch artifacts?

[solar seal]

gotta unlock them from rift 31 first

[bleak gazelle]

unlock them via rift, then go sail to the islands again

[cyan pulsar]

damn