#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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Dont put many points in the flag itself. Do put points in the coin skill next to it.
Oh boy i dont remember any skill names but
On sb page, 2 and 3 are very good
Alright I'll max those first
On bowman page, the homing arrow is good.
On archer page the piercing arrow is good.
Tysm big help
Put some points in cooldown reduction too which i believe is bowman 5.
Any additional tips for sb?
And the coin which is sb 5.
do you get all the minor link bonuses if you have doot
How did I not know this 😭
Yed
Did you max the mana po box?
Yup
also with the one divine that says you dont gain lab xp does that still apply or is that just not a thing
I didn't know sb had a cd reduction talent lol
Can you screenshot
How about the skill set up? Does it matter? Cuz for bubo it's quite necessary
You only get lab xp when youre in the lab. As usual.
It's just poorly explained.
ohhhh
It means if they're outside lab they won't gain xp
i just misunderstood the description mb
Probably. But im sure mine isnt optimal either.
Flag,firebombs,homing arrows,suppressing fire,piercing arrow,nothing else
Alrightt thanks man
Thats the setup for farming plunderous at citringes at least.
Dunno how itll do at rift.
Probably not much difference
It'll be fine I have enough dmg to do early rifts anyways
ill probs go back to rifting maybe after reaching 1400 lab levels or push w6 further
i found a cursed obol
In what manner is it cursed?
every obol i try to combine with it fails spectacularly and gets deleted
its happened to like 6 in a row, on the first combination attempt
Oof. Trash this backstabber.
most definitely
does MK effect coins?
No but DR does
Sorry i dced but thanks 🙂
how worth it, is to rush to w5 even without doot pet?
Just as much as it is worth to continue playing the endgame without doot.
Decide for yourself if thats a yes or a no.
explain.
Quick question, why does fishing give lesser afk rate than mining when it has the same account wide bonus?
Well everything goes a lot slower. But you get things done eventually.
is mantra bugged? i have all chars on mantra but it doesnt seem to be reflected in afkgains
Idk how people get stuck at w5 with all the new dmg bonuses, it used to be way harder
just how much of a gap is "dooted" players than "undooted" players then
Afk gains only show that character's gains, not the family. Always been like this.
I would say a 30% advantage?
so you cant stack 10 chars on mantra for 10 base exp on all?
i would say thats not that much but its idleon so
It is that much. The omni procs boosts your refinery, sailing, gaming, breeding by a lot
It's definitely a gap. Depends on the topic. Their refinery goes brrr, cant even compare. They get triple prints and double kill count. But even with all that, if they dont manage their priorities correctly and you do, you can get pretty even.
F2P are crying then
But when it comes to pushing portals it's not that much difference
now im wondering whether or not to just ignore doot as an F2P and continue through the game
You already get sailing and gaming procs from alch and po, so those are wasted when hit by omni.
I just completed my eclipse skulls w6 this week still undooted. It's doable.
no wonder a lot of people stop playing after pet companions, the game is still playable but gacha is here with absurd stuff
then again you could go insane and try to get doot as F2P
Thats what you should do in fact. Dont worry about it. If you get it randomly good. If you dont then also good. Keep grinding. Effort is more rewarded than just having doot.
My tome is 0.5%. Proof that you CAN in fact get in the elite club without doot.
O.5% 😦
So like i said, daily effort will get you there, doot just gets you there faster. But it's not a requirement.
You won't end up on the toolbox leaderboards without doot, but with enough effort you should be able to do everything else
Yeah thats def wont happen but if you care about that, you'd buy any 1% bonus.
how do i calculate the if my boats can reach the island
Wdym?
Yea but it will take a lot of time
okey what would u do in beginn i unlocked the first 4 but idk if i should go for the new one since takes more time
speed=half of travel distance means you can min travel time
I would say that for all good boats that can do the last island in the minimum time go there and for the other boats let them go to another lower island
okey
So u can get artifacts faster
So I just unlocked this in Soverign form, my total chests prior was 25. I ended up switching character, triggered sailing gains and checked, and it's still capping at 25. Is there a hard limit on 25 chests anyone is aware of?
I didn't get a picture beforehand showing 25 as I didn't expect it not to increase, but I've defo been doing claims of 45 chests (25 stored and 20 waiting) for the last few months so wonder if this known?
When i unlocked the shovel i immediately found a x128 gold nugget. Is this normal or am i lucky?
lucky
took me ten tries and got 41X now almost 5 days later and lots of upgrades and no improvement
Lava is just scamming us and the dreamcatcher eldritch and sovereign forms do literally nothing
Nope, you will never complete it on any character but your first one
This thread lists quests with good rewards https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1197793676122931281
The main way to grind gems now is doing 300 boss kills a day
Kruk is the fastest and takes like 50 min for me and gives ~220 gems on average
If you do more kills you won't get any gems
Oh thanks i needed that list
Well i still gotta do the quests for 10 keys a day im jus lazy
Wait it doesnt say scripticus 150 gems is once
How do you get that amount of keys?
Just got back from a long break
kruk keys is just from mob from moles onwards
For kruk it's killing tons of wurms (last w5 map)
It's quite easy to farm keys
kruk keys are a drop, not timegated like w1-3
so you can park ES at mobs and farm keys
or afk chars there
Rather use DK or bubo
Also you can get a ton of keys from minibosses with the dk orb
Guess I’ll park some chars at worms
or bubo at tremor worms and get alch progress too
No point using ES
is there a cap on boss gems daily
Active farming makes it good
300 boss runs total
300 fights so you get around 200-250
ty am getting that draconic cauldron within the next hour
I’ll get right on it thanks
I've gotten 232
So I thought it was normal
Usually it's very close to 220 though
I see
(in my experience)
Luck too op?
Fr
Game said I'll give you luck for everything else except companions
all my luck for this game is in here
Hahahaa wtff
Share me like 0.1% of your nuggets
Please
My highest nugget is 0.01% of yours 💀😭
take any of these
🥹
its all hard work
so i hv 3k hampters how long would it take to 10k, if 24/7 crystal farm 1/39 in wurms
doublers no choco
probably too long to be worth it
No Choco is the dealbreaker there. You could use the daily crystal spawns each day there might be worth doing a once over but otherwise that’s going to take forever
What does nobisect s scaled skill efficiency do
Im finally here 😅
just know that the higher your efficiency is the lesser scaled efficiency you will get
So ia it good
Ok ty
just doing 300 daily vman kruk kills only gives me around 400-450, 4hrs active dk only 150, october is just soo far for choco rotation
what's most important to upgrade on gaming? trying to hit Qs
Why is the required level for the kruk weapons so low😐
I feel like I’m late getting to them 🤦🏾
When i finally know what I'm doing on this damn journey of a game 😂😂
I only just realised how good the lab is 3 days ago and now i think i need to put everyone into divinity
But idk if i should do that ot keep them in lab
My lab is still behind and my divinity
Or*
After you get the second god in divinity it lets you stay linked in lab and get the bonuses but you no longer get exp unless you are actually afking there😐
I don’t know how to explain it
That one
So i can put them all in divinty for now and eventually they'll make the lad nodes active just no exp?
Lab*
Oh thats pretty useful to know
No that’s not how divinity works unless you have the luxury of king doot
you can only link a character to one god besides elemental sorcerer who can link to two
Yeahhhhh, i was hoping to of got him before w5 lmao
me too🤦🏾
How many pulls you off the garanteed one?
Im on 42
well it kinda doesn’t look like we are 7 weeks apart🫥
more like 3🙏
But i have no bloque
I started like 2 days before the anni event iirc
The anniversary event?
oh lord how much have you spent?💀
Im going to wait til after reset before i change my guys over to divinity because of no bubble left behind
I’m in the 300s right now so average player
🚁
I got like... riftwalker... all the pet coin bundles... erm the new stamp and bubble pack and i think thats all
So like 100? Something like that, not alot
And auto loot obviously
I need to stop buying straight gems that’s where all my money has gone😭
?? I don't get it lol
flying high😁👍
Damn bro I've been temped but I've managed to stay back until the bundles pop lol
😐
But i was even tempted on the dungeon bundle 😭😂 i held back though
But i might need to start getting pet coins for doot now im w5, but the 4500 pet coin pack is priceyyyyyy
Sorry, 4100 coins
16 pulls, 😅 and knowing my lucky I'll probably pull a free one right after hitting the pity doot 😭
mb had to go find a picture
Just beat kattlekruk what’s next?
👾
You have a second account? 😅 where do you find the time
I feel like i don't dare use my golden stopwatches because of having to doo the dailys again 😂😂
Thank god haha
Same account😂
I took the other one 16 months ago
God damn, 16months?!
I must either really be sweating the game out or the paying to progress really helped 😅 im hoping to be in w6 in a couple of months, tops
No I’m just really bad🥶
You and me both man, you and me both lol
wrong one
Lol
How do you get them on the screen at the same time?
I closed the game and he appeared
Minor bugs i guess
I've just thought about this and if i really think about it its $45 for 4 months waiting time potentially
16 pulls is 16 weeks of free pulls
Thats actually probably so worth it 😂
down under
oh rip, unfortunate you cant get the bloque anymore
is multikill raise the valu of money monster drop i hesitate on what to raise first monolithianism talent or the americain tiper talent
damn im with my pusher at lvl 256 at minermole and i couldnt beat the boss on first try, now i gotta get the keys
any tips on how i can push quick for w 6?
depends on a) what class you are trying to kill kruk with and b) what your current max sheet damage is
DK 688K dmg after dmg debuff for acc
i can try reminmax my cards, and remove the acc debuff of DK
You need more than that, check alch stamps etc, look at the autoreviewer
damn
ES 30m min dmg booked ⚡ skill
cards aren't going to get you from 688k to 35M
Also Daily 300 Kruk Done
kruk is a true dps check. you gotta work on your power systems that you've been neglecting
or just opt to ES since its dmg scales soo fast
i'm surprised you are at kruk. you aren't even at suggested DPS for troll
1m troll is just for normal time, ive done troll 300k dmg
that's why i say suggested. ofc can always do with lesss and suffer throuhg troll fight 
welp i speedran w5 in like a week and a bit
well i changed to es in w5 for double gods
you are at kruk, your situation wouldn't change significantly even if you opened w6 today. you aren't anywhere near ready for w6
can u hit boss/moles?
yep
time to go back and boost your alch, stamps, cooking, etc etc
well i just want the new skills
then candy moles for key and retry
wait.. why are you suddenly at 32M
is it 3.2 or 32m?
balanced spirit and changed card preset, was on my acc preset
you can't lose your ACC
then do boss again
you still need to hit moles
how much acc u hv rn?
61.3K
u dont hv the dmg passive if u fight boss then
yeah i guessed
this just auto plays and auto wins u in kruk
wait 5mins then ur done
hmmm i guess ill shift my priorities then
did you push to kruk using balanced spirit buff this entire time?
wild guess i think he did
your kph must have been terrible
yep
8k per hour
rip your candies
8k is just rip bozo
well i have like hundreds of candies
i was offline for about 14- 17 months
only returned about 2 weeks ago
i just say rip candies cause colo nerf gutted our way to get lots of them. they are a little more precious now
ahh gotcha
the game still hands them out like candy, i had a ton before and i never mined colo for them
if you can get your acc to the mole threshold w/o needing balanced spirit and push your damage up a little bit to ~35M, you could prob kill kruk with a talent respec into full active, no afk/farm build
well im maxed fight skills on all except tab 4 which i can optimise with a respec
tab 4 is the ones that really matter though
btw whens the best time to push for zow on rift ?
schow rift when you can still MK
MK?
multikill
well i mullti with about 25 K per k
try to sc with 25k kph
We went a very long time without an event before the most recent one, in which it didn't give nearly as much candy as previous events. Po6 nerf cut alot of endgame candy stacking, we are definitely in a ration candies economy.
25k kph for superchow is 4000 hours
if people want to act like candies aren't gutted w/o po6/colo. i say let them
whatre the best rift 7 (remeberance orb) skills to spec into
that one is mainly just have booked orb talent and have on full speed pots
any stamps specifically that aid with pushing ?
umm if you don't already oneshot them, any or all of the damage ones but not specifically
you may need to manually use some skills and have the dk move to ensure respawn. i.e. start with statue on bottom and climb up
after you clear a platform, if you click next - you save a second cause the AI waits before moving
yeah ok thanks for the help
is there any general rule for damage vs DR for ES statue farming?
WTT for anyone else
Not that I know of. I can say that damage and wormhole numbers are very important, especially when going for monster materials since damage improves mk as well. What I can say is that by my math if you can get an increase of 10 wormhole score that should always be worth more than 1 extra DR. It could be significantly better though.
So I unlocked the bear pretty quick in divinity
But for some reason I can't seem to get the 100% option on the third god?
Like iv been doing the small sacrifices for almost 2 days straight and the option with 100% hasn't appeared?
rng is rng
yeah, rng be rng 
i'm going for god ranks after unlocking all the gods and I just keep rolling 10s on the left and 25s on the middle 
But I thought chance for 100 50 and 25 were all equal or somthn
Ig not
Going for 100% is the best strategy tho right?
up to goat, probably
safest strategy
there's this yellow 29 bubble that definitely makes rolling lower better, even before that you're probably more likely to hit it if you consistently roll low...but rng be rng
early on...and then only if you have nothing better
Is deathblossom pendant worth it? I see in griffys video the negative 7 key chain is S tier and gives 20% mob respawn and the necklace does the same but also has a 1.30x damage multiplier
im at a point where my Vman is miles behind my other skillers and, with sometimes over 20 points of skilling for him to catch up, is there a point intrying to push for right hand?
fyi all my skills are under lvl 100
Got it
the keychains are s-tier cause there's no competition in those spots. necks aren't as uncontested
pendant is good for early-mid game, great for active pushing and potentially active ES farming. It is outclassed by divine scarf due to afk gains. But if you remember to swap it out, you can get the benefits of both. Also +1 slab, but low priority
So only buy 1?
Unless you're made of gems 
Haha okay ill just stick with the one 😂
I just got the eqanox pack pop up so i couldn't help myself
just make sure you pick up the dragonic cauldron, as those are super rare and must buys 
well, vman enhancement allows the left/right hand to apply to himself, which should make leveling easier, which allows you to keep him ahead of everyone easier so that everyone can level faster so you can max out skill mastery and get fat prints
right hand is basically half the point of vman existing
I did haha, i only got like 880 gems left and it was a toss up between the second necklace or a w6 card pack 👀
I think there are better card packs for the emperor bosses on a per gem basis btw
But i dont even have any 4star cardifers even if i did hit a 3star emperor
hmm ok i guess ill push my vman on skills im printing and theyre pushing
??
Yeah since they are in the nightmare and bosses section they may be dropped from some other packs
Isnt it like w5pack can only do upto w5 bosses, w4 do the same, ect ect?
I would have to double check but I think there was a cheaper way
Idk, cuz people would just be buying w1 card packs since they all give boss and nightmare cards
Wiki isn't updated sadly
Sorry w3 packs*
i got all those nice nugget upgrades last week and have the 1.25x slab node now...and now all my upgrades are in the red and taking a while to get 
Finally got the damn checkout takeout achievement lol
yuge
How much DMG do you need to get past kattlekrunk?
Real gaming hours, hit 380k nugget
depends on class, ~30M for ES or ~35M for DK, others are closer to 40-50M+
~30-80m for ES/DK > others > BB/vman, may need to redo talents
Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, artifacts, divinities, dungeon flurbos, and talents are all sources of damage
who ever is in the mood pin dmg per class for kruk lmao

My minimum DMG is 3m
no one reads the pins anyway
I literally have to 10x my damage
i refer people to read pins instead of answer q's somtimes. it would be helpful even to just refer people to instead of re-writing
pins are meant for real important shit, not really meant for something like that, otherwise we may as well have a FAQ channel
how about a !kruk command 
confused then.. seeing as this is a questions channel - most of the pins provide info about FAQ
I thought you said max damage then lol
Yeah how much damage for kruk is the most common question here by a large margin. !kruk would be real nice
damage for kruk gets asked like at least 1x/hr
I never knew that! lmao

especially since w6 came out, and people are trying to rush to w6 for skills
Yeah I'm just doing the same then will go back an upgrade all of my other dudes properly, not like half assed like i have now 😅
In w5 and still on w3 anvil 😅 not even in void gear, but trapping is a pain
To have to run around every 20 mins on all charaters is nuts
So i hours is fine
8*
Don't stress out too much on the 20 min claims, use longer traps, the main thing is being consistent and not forgetting about it~
But super slow
do you not have eagle eye/trapper drone??
Ive been waiting on 2 shiny scorpions to drop for about... 3 days? 4? Now
So only eagle eye right now
do you have the shiny prayer on? if you're only waiting for 1 or 2 you might be better off taking that off temporarily
No i didnt even know about it
check your dm
I like this idea
Only thing i can think of is going to scorpions on all my dudes and putting it to 20 minutes tbh
What do you think about it guys?
the command would take just as long to do as just giving the answer
?
useful for maxing out active dps / +1 slab, but otherwise its worse than Kruk scarf due to lack of afk gains for anything afk.
Very well thx
How do you get the 2nd unlink per week?
u just get 2 unlinks per weekly reset or unlock new god for free unlink
🙌 well we tried folks @bleak gazelle @short sparrow @balmy garnet i can just make an infographic we can link to folks instead, sort of like the doot image acecow links to people
unclear what is deemed "pin-worthy" but i guess that'll have to do
I'd be fine with a command. Maybe I should plug in my stream deck and just have a chat response button for it 
Ooh no, is that really the case? I don't remember during getting Eldritch so maybe missed it
Eldritch didn't add one for me 
Well I haven't gotten sovereign version yet, but eldritch definitely didn't do anything and I've seen others complaining on discord
i think the max amount of chest cap at 30 iirc
Should be yeah. I have 21 and can buy 9 more from gem shop
I'm at 27 and can buy 2 more from gem shop
lava why
Ahh okay, thanks very much for confirming, was wondering if 25 was max and I'd wasted the gem purchases
There are two achievements giving a slot, but I would think you have both
Just check gem shop and could also get 5 more to make 30, so that's useful info, thanks
Also merit shop but you should have that as well
i still need one from achievement...so literally what's the point of dreamcatcher arti, smh my head
Looking good in your sailing pics?
take the eldritch column back, it's ugly af
just get sovereign 5head :3
sovereign clash more in w5 than eldritch tho
it's chrimmus
Cheers!
want to make any changes?
Does boomerang need to be on DK talent list? Not sure
Chainbolt for ES too?
but man, that looks great 
i'll add chainbolt, that's probably a smart one
i think meteors is good too
1st priority - kill all smol guys
so. any AoE tal will help
made it symmetrical cause :3
yeah, the only reason I'd recommend chainbolt > meteors is due to meteor rng, especially at lower levels with fewer meteors
^ i agree with the rng factor of meteors. i put it as 3rd so its there but less important
good guide, thx you
What the fuck????
My life is saved… holy shit
yeah i'll add more info at bottom just wanted some feedback first
btw, vman fight is real clown fiesta
yeah, this will help for all your alts 
even if you oneshot moles
Ahh my alts are in w6
Vman can beat chaotic 🤣
But true that, I need it
I can finally get kruk armor fr fr 
The text is a bit hard to read in discord but otherwise I really like it!
You can see the numbers and class icons fairly easily, at least
added credits, squished down vertically to help w/ discord auto-sizing and increased text some for readability


hey, can anyone tell me all the bonuses you get for getting greenstacked items?

Damage from lab and needed to complete equinox dreams
oh, only those 2?
The last equinox dream needs 200 gstacks
its damage (node)... and then more damage (jewel)
oh must've not gotten the jewel yet.
Speaking of lab, is there any up to date uhh rotation that could tell me when i can get choco chip cookie
its one of the 2 black jewels
The black jewels requires so much spice that almost everyone gets them from the gemshop
This is peak
I've been ES farming gstacks today going from 90 to 116. It's been quite a decent damage boost
as far as we know, toolbox should still be accurate for chips, barring that one week it swapped...but that might be due to that update being delayed 
oh didn't know toolbox can do that, lme try and find. ty
it's in the lab section
someone said if you haev jade emporium upgrade vs. not having it caused the jewel discrepancy
Gstacks are the worst cuz evry time u wanna upgrade something by using a barely gstacked resource u feel bad cuz less damage
Yeah, it really should be possible to lock them
Is this just slab + early game stat stick?
yeah, jewel was expected. I was talking about chips, it was showing a chocolatey chip in early june, for about a week and then it swapped back
oh yeah. i'm just chalking that up to lava teasing us and causing major copium
Best axe for mining. Don't know if a high lvl axe is better because of raw stats but for a long time it should be the best
wow sadge
this and the snake pickaxe are best cause it provides boost to the other skill. so keep both, not just for slab
I don't think that's true if you can unlock anything plat and after...
It's sluggish and 5% isn't alot. Void is 8%
? what boost to other skills
its a pickaxe that gives chopping and a hatchet that give smining
It is an axe giving mining efficiency
they are both bis
didnt notice that ty
I think I know what your talking about
😮 I have that and the pickaxe
There good stat sticks early on, but not good later on
yeah both are bis for sampling for the off skill
Yep
so do i use w6 stones or w5 stones on it >.> 😏
Ofc w6 
why would you not use w6 
Fucking send it!
i'm risk-averse, so i'd say w5. but gamblers can't pass a chance at w6
Maybe he knows something we don’t
true, what's the dark tech 
W6 stones are just better gamble or not lol
Bananas
That’s why
It’s w7 tech we haven’t learnt yet ong
If you don't have a guild W5 stones may be better on average. I don't know
its off-skill tool. you really only need it for the few stat points, not tool power
do guild buffs afect stone chances?
close 
I changed guild today. Partly because I'm getting some good gear very soon
i think mathmatically unless you have pissed off RNGesus the nthe 6 stones ARE better chances overall
imagine not being in danger noodle
I’ve been doing the same, 90- 120 g stacks. I agree damage is nice.
Yeah, my main goal right now is getting enough damage for the 9 character lock. It will take some time but should be doable reasonably soon
75m kills on every character is a lot though
lawl, not me just barely pushing through mama trolls
just wait for w8 stones. this is the big play :3
Honestly a very big reason for me wanting the lock open is for cooking. I want to become a cooking god
4/6 success. Man I was feeling lucky the last 2 would succeed too >.<
.< Do i hvve to change axes if i go into dungeon with the character holding it? Lol . to hit tree?
can just keep it with you sampling gear and food and keep a regular one equipped
hello guys. i have been grinding for a while
im gaining damage slooooowly but surely
a mix of dementia/void/chiz is usually fine
k
I don't even remember what the gear command says, just that it has very high requirements
!gear
it's more like, lofty goals to aim for
U can get to w6 in void
We have plenty of amarok pushers as well
i was always 1 world behind to that graphic
But u will eventually go for chizoar and troll
btw, can you splice rift?
yeah that seems like a little overkill. you could probably do w5 realitivly easily without anvil tab 4 armor
Yep
At least that's what I've heard. I still haven't gotten the splicer
Amarok in w5 feels very slow
oh good, maybe i can psuh to next rift challenge
Honestly I wouldn't be suprised if I get all pets before I get the splicer
still digging for the recipe? or just waiting on batteries?
I tried for the recipe a night a while ago and didn't got back
Now I only have 5 W4 pets left
And will soon unlock failure multiplier
meanwhile, i only have 4 unlocked 
hello, is there a good w5 map for bubo
wurms > citringes
Combine that with maxing the vial and some better meals it should be more than enough to get all without splicer
how long does it take with ES? time wise
should be 5-10 min based on your crit rng
sometimes I think I don't understand mechanics, and then I look at w6 chat and feel a bit better
we all struggle a bit
i know zoro said there doesn't need to be an faq... but things like that ^ make me believe otherwise
it's idelon we're talking about, 90% chance there needs to be a guide
true and real
lava probably needs a guide to be written 
too bad he stopped using the hints window to provide even a little info
i don't even know what should go in those spots
killroy and weekly boss? i guess
maybe pachinko first
I think arcade is part of w1 tips no?
Weekly battles is up there
Killroy and alchemy 3 🤣
So im trying to use this blobby G advancement sheet, but the numbers dont match, as there is no number near the 795k trade when i enter the gold value... am I using the sheet wrong? or is there an easier way?
what does the third divinity do.
k
is it better to save up divinity points for high chance offering or just do a bunch of low chance ones
i think its due to not have enough digits to put into the sheet so the sheet can only estimate it so much
cause your trade in isn't exactly 1374M... its prob something more like 1374.xxxx M
so without that info, sheet can't exactly predict it
safe strategy is to do left only until right shows 100%
i tried both 1,374,444,444 and 1,373,999,999 and it made negligible changes
k
if that's so, then i don't know. tat achievement is pure bs though, i'll say that much
yeah, but i really want it.. +1 chest = x1.04 artifact chance basically
there is no easier way right?
you have eldritch version of the artifact?
there's some strategy to it somewhere but I don't care enough to look it up and try it 
yep
other than what that sheet tries, i don't know of any other method. sorry sir
idk what's on the sheet, so probably the same thing
is there a certain amount of divinity i should be doing before i start preparing to push w5?
to push? at least arctis, and prefereablly Nobi
k
you can keep people on until you get Goharut (god 5) though
then move people back to lab so you get both lab and div xp/points
im going for nobisect. im glad i was able to get articus and the snake so quickly. i got the snake like right after i got articus
cause i want though kills and damage
yeah, with arctis unlocked, you can technically start pushing right away so you can get some xp, at least
then swap them to nobi once you unlock that
don't forget to move your shrines to w5 if you haven't already
yeah im already on like map 4 but im taking a break from pushing to gain damage to make it easier
might keep pushing while i gain damage after i reach a good amount of damage
mabye after i get like 5 mil
hopefully ill have enough damage for kattlecruk by the end of w5
but damage gains are hard for me since im such an impatient person and thats why for a while i neglected alchemy and im still hesitant to put all my effort into alchemy to this day.
Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, artifacts, divinities, dungeon flurbos, and talents are all sources of damage
i just really need to start getting some better samples
don't make me link the alchemy meme
the answer to both you needing damage and samples: alchemy
jsut for you ❤️
nah, you gotta light em up
FLASHBANG
I've also been enjoying this one
i feel like ive just expericned the light of god shining in my face permantly blinding me
but alchemy is god in this game technicly
the answer to everything
yeah, basically, doot is up there too though 
it's funny, because it's true
what's the recommended build rate to go for atom collider?
Doot op
whenever your prints are strong enough that you ahve GS + change
my math says it'll take me half a year haha
Could easily get atom with like 500k
yeah ignore and do it later
alr alr
There isn’t rlly a reccomended tho
1 atom = 10Mil items. so unless you easily have a few GS, likely not ready for atom collider
There’s also a jewel in lab that trims construction spots which is very helpful
is it time for me to get back to w3 statue farming?
Thing about w3 farming is that it gets significantly better with more damage
I think it makes a lot of sense to do it last

i thought this was some dante's inferno type posting 
anyone know the optimal time to claim splicing afk gains?
As short as possible
1h, if candies
I would combine splicing with forging
2min claims 2min claims 2min claims :3
you said optimal, careful what you wish for :3
ok, peapod unlocked
idk which one is more funny, mass peapod or mass rattler 

and now i get to wait here for a few weeks 
close to finishing any of those ?
15 chems becomes a pain to get rid of
i think need min rank 40 in dungeons
I would think it's more of a pain to get
activebubo is amazing, my GT levels have never been higher
meant to say months 
ladles seems doable
gmush just need you to focus on it a little
hpw much damage to clear w5? i know its like 30-50M for kattlecruck but is that much damage neccesary for getting all of the maps unlocked?
kitchen jail instead of lab jail time
good if you candy for splicing
with enough time you can get there with 10m lmao
i did Kat with 10m ES 30minutes
ain't no way 
every 4seconds i do barely enough to outdamage the heals KEK
yeah that's...not something i'll recommend 
idk, my BB only gets like...3.7k a day or something
soon ™️
i've got about 6b from one SB on it for a few months. not sure how many people I could pull out of lab for it, think I should be fine with 6 in lab still, only up to the slab node...but that still seems like a lot since I don't want to candy it
how much dmg does your sb do now ?
cuz i know with the w6 stuff my sb kph on gmush exploded
788b, i don't remember what he was at prior, took him off gmush to finally go push some maps
i'm also taking w6 skills pretty slow
some of the big chunk of gmush kill would come from beanstalk probably since theres a limit to what dmg will do
golden afk food on beanstalk
oh true
even better if its the 110k milestone
and getting the golden food bubble/stamp higher will help too
yeah, i've got a ways on golden dumplings, barely have 1k atm
yeah they do be a pain until you unlock mini chiefs
wait does the beanstalk give bonuses before you hand in the 10k or nah
was pushing maps for a bit on DK, then wondered if I should swap back to bubo to go CC for my GT levels
has bubo pushed as far as you can for currently already ?
nope, can't remember where i stopped with it
then its would be ok to let it pushed as far as you can and let it cc while doing so
GT is only 1700 or so atm
you'll need it to push for the 9lock anyway, so its not a waste to ahve him do so first to get better GT for other characters
yeah, that's probably the play now that i've done a lot of onyx farm and other equinox clouds
i guess the only other thing I could do is divine scarf and see if I can get my vman to nm kruk 
and since you want crystal spawn for bubo, it will help you get some of the w6 golden food farm done
probably stay on ES till i hit 420 for the starsign then swap over to bubo
I'm starting to realize that the 200 gstack cloud probably will be a bit harder than I thought
I've gotten 48 gstacks today and that was a lot of the low hanging fruit
Still like 40-50 quite easy ones, but the last 10 have to be kinda hard
what are you up to?
138
oh, you passed me 
131
i'm also having trouble with 200 gstacks
critters and souls, salt island fish, all w6 mats, w3 shop
I won't get these as part of my 200
All souls should be kinda reasonable. I just got the desert soul vial maxed yesterday
Food statue is huge for soul gains
ah, right, guess i should craft some more of those
try gstacking some of the anvil production items
I will when I candy my W2 eclipses
What are the green bits in gaming?
lots of white bits
1000Q I believe
Finally got opol rings for all characters. What do i spend Flurbo's on now? Keychains I know, but what am I specifically looking for.
Do boats have a max lvl?
probably necklaces or the purple account upgrades
if you've done then you've basically completed most of the dungeon content
Yeah done all that first
woo ancient fury relic :d
@echo crag think I should roll with gloves or just use a staff?
I think the rule of thumb is use gloves until godshard staff
Even with godshard I would test it out
How much speed do i need to have a decent travel time on the last 2 islands?
Is there anything that increases chance for sprouts to be higher tier plants or increase chance for sprouts to be chemical plants?
primarily pushing, but CCing when it's up. not sure how my damage is so dmg bonus from kruk staff might be helpful 
pretty sure just the mutation chance and then faster cycle speed to roll that more often 
Don't forget to upgrade kitsune as well
Okie
though i'm curious how far I should take mutation chance, I'm at 20% at ~265 right now 
personally I keep everything evenly leveled
eh, think i'll stick with staff for now since it gives me another MK tier
Has anyone been able to do W5 Colo on Vman or is the centurion quest just not doable on that character?
Probably not doable from what I've heard. Definitely not worth wasting tickets on trying
fart cloud damage is based on chemical warfare talent, yeah?
When your artifact chance is .01 - is that the absolute bottom level for it, or can it go below .01% and it just displays that as the bottom? On island 6 for my sovereign artifacts and it got rough real quick.
Welp, guess it doesn't matter much. Just pulled one on .01. Lucky. I'll keep at it.
Does bloodworm kills have a chance to spawn crystall mobs?
bloodworms?
question why are some items i have collected not showing up on monolith?
to ensure it gets counted for slab, quest items and others should be dropped and picked up again to ensure the trigger is caught
also make sure you're checking via in-game and not just IE/IT as sometimes they don't update properly
you should get it next time you go in
that was a specific change he made, too
like i've never done dungeon on my vman but i have all of these
i need more DR i think
Do I need to actually enter the dungeon for them to register? I have a lot more spears than gloves
do yall keep cat turned on or off?
The kitsune rock? On is generally better, especially after a few upgrades
May be worth turning it of overnight at first though
if you don't check often and you're early in gaming, you can keep it off for higher bit gain. but once you pump some levels into it you'll want to turn it on regardless
pretty sure you didn't need to enter with other classes but
maybe it was just the case with missing ones
I check hourly, and usually have all plants in that hour
FINALLY got it.
does the kitsune rock effect how fast plants evolve? or just how fast a new plant pops up
Both
Cycle time, which is both
Does dk orb affect minibosses in w5 and w6 colos? Ik it doesn't affect chests, not sure about minibosses
?
R u 100% sure?
The guide says to use DK and build orb before spawning the boss because it increases drops
We're talking about the miniboss in colosseum
In colos the orb doesn't work on the minibosses. Spawned normally you definitly should get orb
Bubo is generally considered the best for the new colos since it clears it the quickest with higher scores
And high scores means more chests
• W5 and W6 colosseums are not affected by the Drop Rate bonus of DK's "Orb of Rememberance", this way DK isn't the required to effectively grind these colosseums for their massive gold food drop tables.
From the patch notes👆
tyty
do we trust lava tho
I'm recieveing different answers by different people, no one seems to know and be 100% sure
I've heard people doing an unreasonable amount of runs and not getting recipes, but I haven't confirmed it myself since I want to use my tickets optimaly
ask in #endgame-chat-w7🐟
When rolling for divinity god ranks, do you roll for the cheapest option until you lvl up or get a 100% option?
if you have points in the yellow bubble for free rolls, theoretically it's better to just spam left option
Doesn't really matter since it is the same price per percent. 100% option is safer
I just failed two 50% offerings can I just spam left offerings
lol
Right, I mean wouldn't it be more advantageous to roll the cheapest option until you rank or get the chance for 100%?
That is the safest strategy yeah
hi
Is 8m damage good for someone whos in the boss area of w5?
was that created recently? never seen it before
Read bottom there are credits and date
But ye very very recently
this morning

i trade and dont get the archivement 77b dont count ?
Juicy trade right now
Jeez that's insane
Went from 8T to 31T lol
Ok, i know how the ES talent about linking to a second god works but seems like we can't use Purrmep as the second link (Goharut as the first)... Can I link Purrmep first then have Goharut as second?
Yes
is there a reason other than 'it's not allowed' that prevents me from using my plan?
It's not possible to have Purrmep as a second linked god (at least when having Goharut linked), why?
Not sure
Do you have someone already linked to purrmep?
No, everyone was unlinked beforehand
Lava says no
probably because it might be possible to link some to purr + have ES link to it with skill
As for why he doesnt implement it properly probably just lazy coding lmao
I don't know exactly, but it's probably because of the way the game is coded.
It either doesn't work, or it does and it lets you link to purrmep on multiple characters. Because it's not a real link.
That's my guess.
Purrmep just special, even need to have one linked to it when having Doot or it won't apply
I didn't try to link multiple at the same time, but I'll have to wait for next week to check if it's fine to have purrmep as first and goharut as second
It is fine
That's not the point. If the talent did work with purrmep, multiple ES's could have 'fake' links to purrmep at the same time.
I don't know exactly how the code works, but chances are that the talent just applies the effect of the god tied to the last digit. This would allow you to bypass the limitations on Purrmep if you have more than one ES.
If anybody has some free time would love some feedback on my account / progress / and a little micro managing on what I should be doing next - right now am focusing on greenstacks for W2 - https://buckrogers7.idleonefficiency.com/
Easier to just not let you do it than to figure out how to make the talent work differently.
I guess so 🤷♂️
or just let your BM manually link it so you get to save ES double link for sth else more valuable
unless doot then link purrmep to highest div char
-**stamps stamps stamps stamps stamps stamps stamps stamps stamps stamps stamps stamps stamps **
-**bubbles bubbles bubbles bubbles bubbles bubbles bubbles bubbles bubbles bubbles bubbles bubbles bubbles bubbles bubbles bubbles bubbles **
-unlock w6 bubbles, not sigils
-make sure to use all your vial attempts daily, you got lots of w5 still to unlock
-TD - should be able to get wave ~100 on early TD -> get skilled dimwit maxed
-you have both mono + burger unlocked, you should be able to easily get 125 for 6th slot and 200 for all upgrades easily considering your breeding level
-considering your lab levels (surprising) are amazing, you should work on getting everyone to 40 divinity so you can use tranqi stance so you can keep getting div xp
-sailing - you have fury island ready, work on getting your ships a little stronger and go get fury - make sure you are upgrading to breakpoints and not willy nilly, use IE to help you with this
-you have a choco chip - you should definitely be onxying your statues, unless you are just waiting on your last 300 to get this started
Your anvil looks reaaaaaly slow
what companions do you have?
This is some nice feedback, may I take the stamp and bubbles part?
by all means :3
Yippeee
It helped me honestly
There's a lot of benefit to be had from finishing a couple more rift levels
- Use books and kill minibosses at two stacks
- Unlock Purrmep
- Upgrade boats, they're sad
- Use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1157094107085283428 to finish equinox cloud, pretty sure this week is easy
- Spend PO Boxes
thats a cool thread you linked, shame its run by a weirdo 
Are you pinged everytime that's linked? I swear you always pop up 
no and im glad im not haha, but whenever im on i rotate through most channels anyway so i tend to see most things
For onyx stattues, should I drop the whole stack or just 20k first?
you have to drop exactly 20k to onyx it
after that, you typically want to wait till your snakeskin vial is maxed plus at 100% (27 vials with vial mastery) and you have most statues onyxed to maximize the benefit of depositing
if you're a madlad, you can also deposit in small stacks to make use of the yellow bubble
Oh ok~! Glad I asked first
you would have worked it out quickly when nothing happens anyway
oh yea dont do that
why so slow for
nah good work mate, it will get much faster now as you go on
you do know you can use more then 1 type of sped potion right 
Yes. Thats without speed pots though.
when will lava release w5/6 potions so we can go 6 slot speed
how are you supposed to beat nightmare kattle with vman
the moves just dont have any aoe to actually kill the moles which heal him
📌 has a guide for ~80b damage
Guys I just reached the 2nd divinity the one that makes me active in lab without having to be there, that said for how long should I stay on divinity? And if I don't have to stay then what should I do
I'll drop my toolbox and IE, please guys tell me what to do.
https://shadows_atomic.idleonefficiency.com/
Power up your Legends of Idleon adventure with Idleon Toolbox's essential tools and resources for optimizing gameplay, character builds, crafting, and more.
Running dungeons in WoW so can't look too deep at the moment but checkout this 📌 #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message for Div, you'll probably want to stay until you have Goat unlocked (god 5) so that you can move people back to lab to get div/lap xp
Keep in mind
I just got to w5 and people are telling me that I need to progress on previous worlds but I'm not sure if that's true
Feel free to do other stuff if you want, now that you have snake/bear, but you'll need to do the div/lab grind eventually 
give me ~20 or so and i can look more
I'm confused about what I should even do, I'm kinda behind on equipment and I'm confused
Stick everything into Div for now.
Can you update your IE? It's two days out of date
Sure thing
If it's not updated then check idleon toolbox
https://shadows_atomic.idleonefficiency.com/
-get all your characters to each of w1/2/3 boss key quest so you can start getting more keys daily
-keep checking out talent books for everything and anything - even if you just use on random shit to get count down do it, you want to be able to get the 1k achievement asap
w1
-**stamps stamps stamps stamps **
w2
-**bubbles bubbles bubbles bubbles bubbles **
-keep unlocking new bubbles
-get your vials to level 4 - this is your shaman/bubo's primary damage boost
-stop doing sigils ASAP - don't touch this until you are done unlocking w6 bubbles
-max out your p2w tab, you are severely behind on this
w3
-set your orange/blue salts to 10% auto-refine, stop leveling them - you are running risk of imbalancing your levels if you keep going at this rate
-you need to redo your prints - utilize at your slots
-stop using syphon charge. until you get MSA (auto arm upgrade) - physically take your characters to whatever totems they have access to and use their charge. you run the risk of soul-locking yourself by keeping your worship levels so suppressed by over utilizing siphon charge.
-utilize all your traps, everyone has 1 slot that is unused
w4
-cooking - focus only on 3 meals right now: egg, corndog (unlock it), and cabbage - hard focus egg to level 11, then corn dog and cabbage to 11
party dungeons
-i have no clue what you are spending all your flurbos on to be rank 38 and not have full set of rex rings on everyone, nor have your flurbo upgrades even halfway bought out at this point. if you are buying keychains as i suspect, you must stop this immediately. keychain gamba is the absolute last thing you do with flurbos.
mk that's fine then. i just have no idea where all your flurbos went
W3
The slots are filled it's just my ie wasn't updated
I'll do the rest
W1
Stamps are kind of difficult for me because I need money alot
But I still try my best to upgrade them
W2
I'm not doing sigils
I'm trying to get every bubble
P2W I'm not sure what I should upgraxe
p2w ALL
dont prob money u get more the further ingame u are
this statement confuses me. cause your stamp levels are low and your p2w tab is underbought. what are you strapped for money on?
what world are they on? i always see ppl say they lack money too, only time i rlly lacked money is on w6
just got to w5
w5 is where ppl start to farm money so idk what their saying then
or are they just stuck div lvling rn
On top of everything that Kaito and Mirai said
- I would still stick on Div until you have Goat, but if you want to bring someone out, now that you have Bear, I would level your last characters and get their elite classes
- Spend your PO boxes and make sure to complete orders so you can unlock all tabs if you haven't
- Rotating people to get them up to 100 would be useful for more talent levels for when you resample
- For resampling, aim to get your MMan to rank 1 on W1-3 non-town skills to make use of his left hand talent
on top of all that you might want to work on this for money lol ^
W5 upgrade stones 💀
I did w1 keys
W2 and w3 will have to wait for now
I did the p2w tab and I gotta say
I was REALLY underbought
Yeah, you can ignore them being confused on how you're strapped for money. I distinctly remember never having money for anything besides a few upgrade stones and food 
Honestly though, you just need more time on the account, most of your characters are below 100 
hmm that's fine then
I'll put my bb on cooking after 5th divinity
I'd say 5th div and rotate your last two people out to get their elites
a lot of your combat stamps require gold to level, so its not even plat
And other classes to work and then put some at lab
Lava said to wait and not choose any subclass
I'll do it for the squire though
lul, did he actually?
I saw a picture in the general it was sent by a mod


you pinged lava? jesus
I pinged him twice or thrice
idk, i don't pay any attention to gen chat so
if he said wait you can. or if you have gems for an elite/subclass wap then you can do that
I would, at the very least, get some prints on them, any prints > no prints
do some oak logs on your last wiz
3rd one
For better or worse I made it to W6 w/o having the 5th god unlocked in W5
just getting god is not a req but is a big help if u aquire them
I feel as though my vague, one sentence response contributed equally to black cat's success as you and Kaito. You're welcome.
I was just surprised at how easy the boss of W5 was compared to how little progress I made in that world
yeah, one mechanic boss fight and all
You shouldn't say that. You'll upset all of the multiple people that say daily in this chat, "How much damage to kill Kruk? I've been at it for 30 minutes."
My ES had 81m damage
Hey now, that's why we made this
I feel like my alchemy is finally taking off but my sailing / divinity / gaming / cooking / lab / breeding are horrible
time to sail more
Nice, only 5 island left to eldritch
Could someone explain the gold shovel to me please? My current nugget is 14k. Since I got it I have leveled the shovel ~30-40 times. That was probably several weeks ago. I keep only finding 200-400 nuggets. Am I doing something wrong or is it just a very low chance to get something?
Normal until you get the equinox upgrade
Sheepies, deodated rams, not slime, no doot unfortunately
Upgrading the shovel just increases the range at which it can roll higher, but the low end stays the same. With the equinox upgrade, each nugget that you get that isn't an upgrade increases the size of nuggets that you roll by x%
Thank you for checking, I need to figure out what’s been going wrong, pet colo never really gets past 68. Except for lightning I’ve bought all anvil points so will figure out what’s been missed there
Am I actually expected to get 900 recipe unlocks for Anvil 5?
its a anvil craft to unlock anvil 5
Nothing to get there
Mfw i got this ancient before finmmgetting the divinity artifact
Do the fertiliser upgrades in gaming max out? For example the one that upgrades how often sprouts grow back, I’ve got it at lvl 397 and the last many upgrades don’t seem to have changed the stats in the upgrade window at all…
good boat speed
I've been farming daily task thinking it'd be like 3 years till I get tab 5, that's a relief
games barely been out for 3 years now 
I guess
150k boat speed for fury
And still no new evolutions.
Do i just mantra or vitality, i mean 3 active and 7 labing/divinity, i also gonna need to unlock elephant sooner
3 more lantern artifacts to find If I can get the the jade emporium upgrade today
I dun use Elephant for months cause I mostly needing Nobi and Goat. If you want to push lowest Div character to unlock Vitalic for future self-grind, Mantra. Otherwise just stick to Vitalic, at least on the Mage to Div 40 or 50.
Though everyone already unlock vitality, so i just use mantra as usual again?
Vitalic would be better, especially if u want Elephant for at least the Blessing.
Mage can do Mantra later on if needed
does doot connect to gods you don’t have yet
Yes except purrmep. You have to manually assign someone to him.
okay so i should still do the early divinity grind
Minor god bonus depends on divinity lv
oh i didn’t know that
thank you for the heads up i probably would’ve ended up ignoring divinity for too long if i didn’t know that
Anyone can help with the P/S name quest as well as the Snake jar one in w2?
Got the damn eldritch BEFORE the ancient how the fuck
Wasn't getting good luck with eldritch fury, I'm gonna get it when I get tuttle vial
Spent like 4 gold watches trying to get it
How long does w3 and w4 take
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
!merit6
any tips in prioritising bits in gaming?
Do i use harriep and put chars in lab, or grind till goat
Does nobisect double kill bonus apply only to active kills or also afk ones? If pushing afk for a portal is better to have nobi or snake god?
grind till goat
mostly nobi if pushing portal/DN
2x kill is 90% better than 30% afk
Okay ty
Does overgrowth in farming act the same as fire in cooking? A higher chance for the next crop?
overgrowth gives more of the same crop not new crop
each OG is just double the yield
if it didn't evo when it first grew, it's not gonna evo at all
best char to kill chaotic kruk in under 30 seconds?
ES most likely, but probably whoever is your highest level
For fastest es
Highest damage more then level
thanks, just cant quite do it with my DK who is highest level
Es has the biggest burst damage
eh, depends on how big the level gap is. my ES/DK were something liek 250 levels higher than the rest of my other characters for a long time 
then my DK/bubo were 100 higher for a while
my es is higher level sorry but gear is nothing on my DK

o i see
