lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[solar seal]

i'd give you a SS but mines on cd

[hallow jewel]

twinkle

[mighty hinge]

thanks

[cobalt nymph]

do i just really suck and poing or is this 25k achievement stupidly hard to get xD

[bleak gazelle]

both probably

[cobalt nymph]

i made it to 2.5k only 10times more my score shouldn't be that hard right

[bleak gazelle]

xayayah has a post in w6 chat with some strategy for it

but it's still kind of rng

[cobalt nymph]

god damnit 8.8k

a strategy mhm lemme check tyhat out

[candid flame]

what map has the w5 colosseum

[still apex]

2nd, i've been told

[bleak gazelle]

all colos are on 2nd map

[candid flame]

ty

thought i checked every map i checked every map except 2

[cobalt nymph]

ahhh my inventory got full ands tarted lagging my run

[short sparrow]

I think I'm going to hard focus kruk shoes for my ES so I can get stuff for other armor easier

[icy stone]

is eldtrich the upgrade after ancient

Ion wanna sdo rift

😦

[lethal aspen]

go rift

[icy stone]

I literally need to get 2 skulls and ion even know how to do that

[lethal aspen]

just kill them literally

lol

[icy stone]

bruh

[still apex]

Sb

[icy stone]

what char is best

like bubo and dk?

[still apex]

Sb

[icy stone]

oh

[lethal aspen]

i did bubo back in the day

[icy stone]

I need to do it on another char

[lethal aspen]

but either works

[icy stone]

ok

[still apex]

Dk just doesn't work

[icy stone]

what turns them into lava skulls

[lethal aspen]

rng as u kill the skulls upgrade tiers

[still apex]

Killing existing skulls

[icy stone]

ah

[still apex]

What makes dk worse is it needs to kill everything, leaving nowhere for skulls to upgrade/migrate

[icy stone]

do I need to levae one alive

[still apex]

To be safe you could just kill enemies with skulls, you just need to be manual that way

[lethal aspen]

just let it afk

shudnt take long

[icy stone]

im kinda just wiping everything on thje map with my bubo

[still apex]

That's a problem

[icy stone]

I got a dimentia skull but then it died

[lethal aspen]

do u see the skulls changing?

rng to upgrade

[icy stone]

maybe bubo is not the play

[hallow jewel]

just use sb lmao

[icy stone]

ok

[cobalt nymph]

poing keeps lagging making me miss alot of the hits ;_;

omg

i fucking did it

never touching poing again in my life

[bleak gazelle]

dang yo

[dapper root]

Guys what's the play here

[fallow aurora]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[dapper root]

alright I see, I figured loot pile and exp would be good

[lethal aspen]

oh god so many gummy bear peepo

[strong shale]

😦 nugget went from 6.4k to 6.9k

nice but not nice enough

[hushed crystal]

Does es wormhole work for killroy

[lethal aspen]

no

[dapper root]

nah that'd be busted

[solar seal]

bubo usually better for killroy

[buoyant shard]

how does elemental sorcerer polytheism works ? does having doot make it useless ?

[simple wadi]

Lets you link ES to a second deity. And yes.

[crystal nexus]

It is still useful with doot on a skilling preset. When doing divinity on your ES.
So not especially. But it’s not absolutely useless.

[strong nexus]

runing 10 character on green mush for 8h i pass from 25m kill to 40m so now i have 80% more mooney

how much i need to kill to drop a grey coin on a gmush

[strong shale]

hell yea i got a 200 max talent alch book

[simple wadi]

How would we know if we don't even know how much money your gmush are dropping as it is?

[south agate]

which one?

not in w6 yet so prob not that one obv

[eternal wasp]

Shimmer and sea salt are prio

[strong nexus]

i drop almost a purple/gmush

i should drop a full purple tomorrow mid day

[strong nexus]

crystal,trash,shimer,seasalt,fractal

[hushed crystal]

the only two I don’t have yet 💀

[eternal wasp]

What the actual fuck is this

[wanton obsidian]

What do U guys get in w5 colo?

[solar seal]

even though it says w6 fish, don't be fooled. because of the way fishing works, you can get lots of xp from that island with 0 efficiency since you can always catch the base fish. its a good way to get your non-barbs some levels in fishing without expending too much effort (can get to 30 using equinox first)

[warm pike]

How does the kill bar for the parties work?

[hybrid halo]

Like 880 golden kebabs? Not sure, was hoping to get an obol but no luck.

[warm pike]

Does it only work show inside of party dungeons or does it work universally

[solar seal]

only w1-w3

[strong nexus]

the order to unlock the fishing island by importance

[wanton obsidian]

What makes w6 Colo more worth it than w5? It's literally X3 the price

[hybrid halo]

W6 gave me 5500 golden kebabs

[eternal wasp]

That's very bad

[strong nexus]

ho wait i missing one

[wanton obsidian]

For 1 run?

[hybrid halo]

Yes

[wanton obsidian]

Some guy said he got 1k+ kebabs from w6 colo

[strong nexus]

crystal,trash,shimering,event boss,then fishing then time candy

[hybrid halo]

He probably didn't have 43x droprate

[wanton obsidian]

Oh drop rate 😭

I wanna know where do U guys even get 40+ drop rate??

[hybrid halo]

I candied 230K golden cakes before the colo ticket nerf

[wanton obsidian]

How much drop rate does 230k give

[balmy garnet]

💳

[hybrid halo]

That too

[wanton obsidian]

What does the colo nerf got to do with the cakes?

[solar seal]

recipe to make cake uses nomwiches which can be ez farmed in colo1

[hybrid halo]

Po6 used to give a colo ticket every 10-20 resets, now you get 1 every 200-300 resets, colo gives candy.

[noble fjord]

Is there a trick to getting access to the Chemical plant?

[solar seal]

no trick. because of bad dna scaling, just try everytime you can

[hybrid halo]

Harvest all, spam click research

[noble fjord]

I must have terrible rng

[solar seal]

naw, it just sucks period

[noble fjord]

Ive been stuck doing this so long I started to think I was forgetting something

[muted scroll]

i prolly shouldve done that before the nerf tbh. generally sucks now

[hybrid halo]

I mean farming 100 tickets everyday sucked but it was something you could grind

Been grinding gaming instead since and got the last superbit today tho, which is nice.

[wanton locust]

is this something i should whale out on or are the better pendants i can grind for

[hybrid halo]

It's just for meme damage, kruk pendant for active or divine scarf for afk still best

[wanton locust]

thank you, and do you know if the world rings are worth for Vman speedruns?

[hybrid halo]

They are, if you remember to switch them around during a run

+1 slab tho

[wanton locust]

that going towards the slab is wild

guess it is grindable

[gilded sedge]

isnt kruk pendant worse?

[wanton obsidian]

Quite hard to switch if you're swapping between worlds constantly

[hybrid halo]

I'm only thinking in cash multi and it makes no difference in my case, in terms of damage kruk is worse

[gilded sedge]

eyo i didnt notice ur the top leaderboards in basically evrything guy

[wanton obsidian]

There's a leaderboard?

[hybrid halo]

https://idleonleaderboards.com/
and
https://idleontoolbox.com/leaderboards

[wanton obsidian]

Ty bro

[lucid olive]

Is there a chart of ship speed needed for minimum sailing time for all the islands

[solar seal]

no chart, i would use IT/IE's sailing UI - provides much more and better info to progress sailing

[strong shale]

google pls i wanna get this riftwalker pack

[echo gulch]

Guys should i keep all my characters on arctis or goharut?

[ruby barn]

I just got all artifacts from an island in 9 chests :o

[strong shale]

purrmep always on 1, bear when out of lab, goat when in lab, if you can get all lab bonuses without bear god then you can pick a diff god for whomever

[gritty nova]

So I just unlocked chemical plants does the DNA plant unlock button do any thing else or should I lit it build up in case of a new plant

[strong shale]

it just wont click, itll keep building

diamond chef is so dumb 🤣 +2 on it and it didnt even go up a %, but i look at toolbox and my speed just went up 20%

[sly cedar]

yeah cause thats how multiplicative bonuses work

[strong shale]

what

[sly cedar]

the increase can be massive from a small increase in diamond chef, the number you see is being multiplied a lot of times if you have a bunch of plates

[strong shale]

oh i was talking about the chem plant in gaming

[sly cedar]

so it doesnt need 1% increase to see massive gains

[strong shale]

for that, but yeah

[sly cedar]

yeah i was replying to the 2nd part of your comment, it was the same comment

oh nah it wasnt but i misclicked

[strong shale]

i see my fault xP yeah diamond chef so op i love it

[sly cedar]

yeah its massive

[stable whale]

Is the display bugged or am I reading the talent wrong

[strong shale]

thats correct, it will ramp up quickly

[sly cedar]

its not bugged

you need a lot more meal levels before it starts doing anything

once you hit about 500 total meal levels it will start increasing fast

ii reccomend parking your BB in kitchen if not already, and increasing his cooking eff if you can.
and try to unlock diamond chef in yellow bubbles, that increases cooking speed a lot

once you hit a certain point, the gains from blood marrow start being massive

[stable whale]

Working on Diamond Chef, but my spice gains are garbo

[sly cedar]

yeah, just make sure as many bubbles as possible are higher lvl than it, so it gets procd by nblb when it gets the all bubbles bonus

[stable whale]

When does it get the all bubbles bonus?

[sly cedar]

oh, thats an atomiser bonus

[stable whale]

Yeah so that'll some time lol

[sly cedar]

its like a 15% chance once u unlock it, that it can increase any bubble instead of first 15

[stable whale]

Oh my god the Left Hand buff looks so juicy

[strong shale]

nblb doesnt work on diamond chef

[stable whale]

That's why they specified the all bubbles bonus

[strong shale]

oh im an idiot

i cant read im sorry LMFAO

[stable whale]

It's alright, we all turn dyslexic sometimes lol

[gentle furnace]

1.0066^80

[stable whale]

That's like 69%, that's why I asked lol

[wanton obsidian]

Correction, it's 1.69%

[gentle furnace]

lol

[crimson thistle]

how do i increase my kph feel like im stuck

[strong shale]

redoing prints to increase alchemy bubbles, stamps, card sets

what specifically are you looking to do/achieve and what do u have now?

[silent palm]

is it better to farm kattlekruk on normal difficulty or nightmare?

[sly cedar]

depends on your goals

[crimson thistle]

just looking to push through w5 at a somewhat faster pace

[sly cedar]

check survivability is at 100%, put on nobisect, light up the skull tile in lab

if those are done, is accuracy at 100%?
if so, you need damage, or you might be capped already, what is your kph?

[crimson thistle]

5339 on lamps

not full afk gains however

linked to arctis and nobisect

[gentle furnace]

alchemy look pretty neglected

[silent palm]

farming the pendant for example

[gentle furnace]

if you have the time normal is best for it

[silent palm]

ar

[crimson thistle]

alch and po boxes are 100% neglected

[gentle furnace]

just do 300 runs daily

[silent palm]

guess i have something to do today with 4k keys xd

[gentle furnace]

slowly backtrack on them

[gentle furnace]

dont do more than 300 runs since boss doesnt drop gems after that

[silent palm]

ok

[balmy garnet]

is obol effect before afk or at claim?

[gentle furnace]

at claim

[balmy garnet]

switching chips & obols

[gentle furnace]

thats what i do for my SBs everytime

[balmy garnet]

flat mk and mk per tier for ur sb?

[gentle furnace]

and i change to kruk obol for fam

[balmy garnet]

what a colorful obol set

ill follow by example

[gentle furnace]

i didnt cared about the squares

[sly cedar]

arent those flat mk obols pretty terrible?

[gentle furnace]

nothing better

[balmy garnet]

other than flat mk whats better?

[gentle furnace]

could do stat obols but im lazy

[balmy garnet]

obol is total or base stat?

[gentle furnace]

base

[keen ginkgo]

oh god, finally, after 3 weeks of grinding suggmas on 6 characters and sinking dozens of candies I finally got the damn recipe

[sly cedar]

grats

awww yeah

after months of grinding idle skilling, i got the trophy =]

[keen ginkgo]

grats, hopefully that was a pleasant grind ^^

[sly cedar]

it was fine up until the 2nd to last reward

getting enough damage to kill the teehees for trophy was tedious af tho

[lethal aspen]

grats

now u can resample

[sly cedar]

[sly cedar]

why did you have to ruin it kanna, it was a positive moment

xD

but yeah some day i will resample

its been a while

my samples on like 5 chars are about 5% of what they would be now, lol

[muted scroll]

this good or na?

[sly cedar]

its good but could be better, depends on your other captains

[stable whale]

Picked up some meal levels
I hadn't given it much thought but might as well

[sly cedar]

definitely a good idea

get as many meals to level 11 as you can, diamond chef bubble is huge

[warm pike]

Skull Lance acquired yesterday😐

So now I can actually use my divine knight

wrong one 😐

[azure apex]

idleon toolbox says i am at max chests, but chest stash says no, do I miss a feature?

[forest dust]

How do I increase build rate

[solar seal]

90%+ of your build rate is tied to your DK's construction level. so you prioritize XP cogs and directional boosts to player XP (gotta manually check bonuses on purple/pink cogs) to have your DK's level as much as possible to get the best build rate out of them

[forest dust]

thanks I've been stuck at 50k for the longest time

[junior dune]

You are probably desynced because of lag. Usually happens when playing ES or getting a full inventory. Go to the player menu/cloud save and you should time travel a bit

[junior dune]

There are also two good bubbles, one for mustache combs and one from orange salt. Always keep the salt one in nblb range

[wanton obsidian]

I got 3 pendants but 1 kattle obol wtf is this luck

I want the damn obol not the pendant

[gilded sedge]

Ey that's 3 divine scarves

[lucid sentinel]

Shiuld i do lab/div grind or work on getting all of my characters skills to 50

Also lab/div grind is to 75/40 right?

[solar seal]

lab 1.0 is 75/40. lab 2.0 is 2100 total lab levels. - answer to your first question probably depends on whether you a) unlocked skill mastery from rift 16 and b) whether you've unlocked goat god yet

oh nvm you have doot

[lucid sentinel]

I have both a and b

[solar seal]

if you have mantra for your characters, you could do do lab 1.0 grind so you get all the chip slots open

[lucid sentinel]

The only cards i dont have passive are worship cards btw

[solar seal]

that should be the easiest one to have passive - please tell me you aren't constnatly using siphon charge

[lucid sentinel]

Im just bad and forget to use the totem

[solar seal]

gotta stop that asap. low levels -> bad skulls -> low charge -> low soul gain

since you have doot, i wouldn't worry about grinding skills to 50. you'll get shit tons of divinity pearls to do taht for you. so for you, go ahead and do lab grind

[lucid sentinel]

Also im grinding medium resource cards on my vman and w4 mob cards on my ES should they be in lab as well

[solar seal]

that's up to you. you don't have to keep your roster equally at 75/40 - can always do some now and others later. it makes coordinating stances easy if you do it all at once but not necesssary

[deft frigate]

I'm pushing w5 with my DK and I'm at the point where leveling up doesn't impact progression because my talents can't go any higher even with the library upgrades. Does that mean it's a waiting game for the fury relic?

[solar seal]

yes/no. if you've already done 1k library achievement, saltlick, (likely not yet) atom collider bonuses, then your remaining is just fury so your skills are capped. but no, progression to get to w6 is not limited by needing fury relic

[wanton obsidian]

Uh-

📈📈

[sly cedar]

stonks

[solar seal]

good for tome score 🎉

[sly cedar]

thats crazy lucky

[wanton obsidian]

It hit jackpot twice there

The one on the very right

[deft frigate]

Yeah, I'm working on the achievement. I'm not close to the atom collider yet. I don't think fury is restricting my progression through w5 but it is making leveling not too relevant. oh well

[true flint]

Hey hey, looking for some bespoke targets if I may be so bold, working through ie auto review so don't quote those please - what shall I tackle this week?
https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=Mincable

[radiant gazelle]

At what point do I go for vman?

[brisk cape]

How does div xp multi work? My base xp is 8 per hour and I have 442x multi so thought I get 3.5k xp/h.. but after 15h afk I only got like 7.5k xp

[radiant gazelle]

What's your EXP multiplier?

like does it say on there or is it your divinity point multi

[solar seal]

as soon as you can without derailing too much of your progress

[radiant gazelle]

i kinda need him in the lab atm. I think after i finally beat kruk

[solar seal]

show SS of your skill info

[solar seal]

-are you attempting to unlock w7 bubbles? i see you ahve 4 in color cauldrons vs. them in liquid/sigils
-at your level, i believe your boron should be maxed by now so you can have max atom bubble upgrades - prob focus this
-you should be strong enough to get beefy for real prayer (frosty 121) and glitterbug (can 131) - prob go get that
-trapping could be higher level? prob just focus full xp until you unlock tortoises then can 20min claim those until you max vial
-you got lots of meals that only need 1 ladle to get levels, can prob do a sweep and get more levels throughout meals
-you could start prepping for 2100 lab (get lab rings/feet if you trashed them from before)
-sailing - you got several boats that aren't at the 100M optimal distance yet - you'll want these prepped for when you get all 4 lanterns unlocked

[harsh glen]

about divinity i can change god once a week?

[solar seal]

you can unlink 2x per week - each unlink, you can select as many as you want to unlink at the same time

[true flint]

Pushed some w7 bubbles, not making a huge move for them at the moment
Will be mazing boron, just making sure I do it when I have used them all for the day
Will push souls and trapping, good shout
Just doing chows before back to cooking
2100 lab - what does that get me?
Sailing I'm working through too, to boost cap and speed

[wanton obsidian]

Broo 😭😭

Look

Jackpot 🥹

[harsh glen]

i dont understand :/

[solar seal]

2100 lab gets you last 3 jewels which can't be gotten from gem shop and grinding 10k of the final spices takes years. 2100 lab is the only realistic way to get them and their bonuses are strong enough to warrant doing this grind

[true flint]

You have two uses of the "unlink" function every week. Each time you use it you can select each of the characters you want to unlink. So you can do all ten, or just 2-3, or even just one

[echo crag]

w6 jewels

[solar seal]

when you click unlink on any character, it opens up the link/unlink UI. when you are on this screen, you can select 1 or up to all 10 characters to unlink before you confirm unlinking them at the bottom. unlink isn't only one character at a time. this process, you can do up to 2x a week, or if you unlock a new god, you can do it again

[true flint]

Wait so they would be free?

If I get the lab levels?

[echo crag]

you get 1 of those jewel for every 700 lab lvl

[harsh glen]

oh thanks i am fresh w5 and just unlocked first and second one

and want to use first for better sampling

and second to get lab bonuses

[solar seal]

if you haven't yet, i recommend reading through #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message pinned comment - provides very good intro primer for those new to w5 and divinity

[true flint]

Was there a bot summary on discord for trapping set up?

!trappingguide

[solar seal]

for setting up xp traps?

[true flint]

Yeah

Or standard ones too

[harsh glen]

thanks and about sailing

if i unlocked already every artifact in first island

should i still go there

or only second third

[true flint]

Go furthest you can do in the two hours

[celest flame]

how does divinity work with doot, do you still have to link to specific gods like bear?

[harsh glen]

so only first one ?

[solar seal]

there's a pin in w3/4 chat but its pretty bad. nothing's fundamentally changed since w6 came out

[gentle furnace]

need to link purmep

[true flint]

And have all your guys lvl 2 at least

[solar seal]

all characters will need to be level 2 divinity to "activate" doot - only god that needs to be linked is 1 to purrmep (kitty) once you've unlocked it. acecow has a good image for this, i'll go find it

[solar seal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1232129553309110372/kXkZfj9.png?ex=66420ad1&is=6640b951&hm=39a239254f2e29741061eeb74e9852c04036bf278e15536cf347e6a9817c983c&

[harsh glen]

if i have 2 es divinity xp buff from talents stack or only one works?

[solar seal]

only 1 works, so like SB split talent duties for ES

[harsh glen]

and why my bubo get 3xp/h in div and res char gets 1?

everyone same type of medidating

[keen pier]

im going to scream

[warm kelp]

if the android update hasn't come in yet then I probably shouldn't switch from steam to mobile?

[junior dune]

I don't think you can

[keen pier]

yeah you just physically cannot open a character on android now

[warm kelp]

ah okay, didn't really want to try. Thought maybe it could mess something up

[keen pier]

which is kinda annoying, hope its all sorted by tuesday....or i cant check the game for like 10 hours while im away at work

[warm kelp]

yeah I was active farming with my phone at work

[keen pier]

like, i run 1hr boxes and keep someone active farming at all times

so having a block of time i cant check like that woul suck

[warm kelp]

I was farming onyx statues on ES

[keen pier]

getting myself clogs on DK atm for troll shoes

ES is busy praying

[warm kelp]

I'm waiting until i have 80k nullo salts then do troll for everyone

maybe it was 65k, can't remember

[junior dune]

Imagine being able to get significant quantities nullo...

[warm kelp]

mines rank 4 also but I can run them 24/7

[keen pier]

bruh why rank it up to 4 if you cant run it 24/7

im keeping my nullo at 1 for a good while, since i dont want any downtime and i still have a LOT to do with lower salts anyways

[junior dune]

I'm a big advocate of the yolo strat. Running out of salt isn't an issue when you just can keep some backup salt in your inventory. You also get equinox clouds completed faster, higher damage on dk and can get your nullo a bit faster after ranking up green

[gilded sedge]

is there a guide for chem plants anywhere?

[fallow aurora]

t1=1x1=1 hour
t2=2x2=4 hours
t3=3x3=9 hours
t4=4x4=16 hours
t5=5x5=25 hours
and so on

it skips gaming time

[gilded sedge]

this makes so much no sense

i want to know how i should like do chems

not how much time they skip

[junior dune]

I would let them frow to the highest tier that you can get reasonably fast. For me that is 5. There isn't that much to it harvest them when you've used/collected everything (log, squirrel, nuggets, sprinkler and sprouts) and then repeat until there are no more chems

If you can get them to t5 they also insta refresh the log which helps a lot in perpetuating the cycle

[gilded sedge]

why do i see people waiting till having 15 all the time?

[junior dune]

Because there's an equinox cloud for that

[solar seal]

equinox challenge

[gilded sedge]

oooooh

[junior dune]

Having a few is quite common since you can't be bothered harvesting them efficiently though

[gilded sedge]

so evry time it gets to tier 5 i do it?

[young yacht]

what gaming multiplier are people going for before they make a run at the last superbit?

[potent gust]

God ranks here i am I guess ❤️

WAIT WAIT WAIT.

1T damage 🥺

[hoary oracle]

i need so much more damage. i need like 40 million but i have 1.5 million. well at least im making progress used to be at 1 million. congrats on 1 trillion though

#slowgains

[solar seal]

you'll get there remember that lots of small gains add up

[balmy garnet]

u only need 30m max dmg on ES with booked ⚡ talent for kruk battle

should pin this lol

[eternal wasp]

Huge

[solar drift]

how good is armor upgrade stone sk from katlekruk ?

[solar seal]

got replaced with w6 stones

[solar drift]

ok

should i keep it for greenstack

or can throw away since it will take to long

[solar seal]

that would take too long

[solar drift]

ok i see

[south agate]

just started lab grind to 75, is it worth having a character grinding out lab rings and shoes?

[steep kiln]

They help for sure but it all depends on how hard it is to get them for you.

[cyan pulsar]

why do you need the ram companion storage if you can open stamps and do quick chest

nvm it only works in towns

[junior dune]

I mean maybe not completely impossible

[solar drift]

[paper yarrow]

How long does it take to get your first god in divinity using EM

ES sorry

[bleak gazelle]

Could be your first roll, could be your 30th all down to rng

[brisk bane]

yup

[bleak gazelle]

best practice is typically roll the lower left side rng until you get a 100% in the middle and save for that

[silver wolf]

Yo guys i rushed with my bubo thinking he had enough dmg to kill kuttlekruk but i cant outrun the moles he does like 40ish million dmg max is there anyway i can double or triple my dmg, i heard overaccurate crit helps alot

[bleak gazelle]

Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, artifacts, divinities, dungeon flurbos, and talents are all sources of damage

I think Bubo is probably in the 50-60m damage range for kruk...but maybe with a talent change 40 is possible. Not sure, haven't had too many people push boss on bubo first

[silver wolf]

Yea im dumb i should've done it on es or dk

Ty for helping tho

[neat umbra]

ES 10m is possible

[keen pier]

this 777 bit achievement is sooo anoying. having 1 point in DK's talent take me from 772 to 778

[silver wolf]

How

[junior dune]

It will happen naturally sooner or later

[neat umbra]

Focus boss with thunderbolt, took me 30min

[silver wolf]

Bruh

I went like 40 candys deep in w5 just to fail

[junior dune]

It is likely that you can optimize enough to beat it if you managed to get to the boss. Adjust cards, star signs, use some books, move all your kebabs and nomiches to the pusher are the first things I come to think of

Cold seeker bullets are quite good as well

There is a boss damage star sign which may be its own multiplier and good for this situation

[civic wadi]

Where is w5 colleseum

[junior dune]

Second map

As are all other colos

[keen pier]

also, where do other people generally suggests to stack up mutation odds for unlocking the 2nd to last sprout? ive been trying anywhere from 2.5-3%, but its really taking a long while...

[vestal night]

The rock

Helps you get them to spawn faster

[keen pier]

probably got over 100 attempts and no dice...

[bleak gazelle]

i'd just clear your board once or twice and roll

same for chem

[keen pier]

yeah ofc, i meant what % chance do people go for

[vestal night]

Idk

[junior dune]

Roll as often as possible even if it's at 0.1%

[vestal night]

K

Someone asked so

[junior dune]

It doesn't scale well and that is the way you will get it as fast as possible on average

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, like with those 335 plants, you could have rolled like... 20 times at .1-.3 or w/e it is for evergreen

[dull gust]

where is the w5 colloseum at?

[bleak gazelle]

map 2, like all other colos

[junior dune]

I wonder how high the one after chem goes though

[dull gust]

thanks, never tought about them always being map 2

[junior dune]

It's useless of course but I could imagine someone getting a lot depending on how it scales

[bleak gazelle]

honestly, neither did I till someone else said it

[tranquil pewter]

Does it give the bonus only from the one with the highest number?

[dull gust]

how good is the new arena trophy, no idea how good damage multi is :>

[bleak gazelle]

I believe it's its own multiplier, so it's a true 10% damage increase. Great if you're actively pushing and it helps your reach MK or another tier

also +1 slab

[fallow aurora]

also gives 1 weapon power

[junior dune]

aka basically nothing in w5

[radiant gazelle]

Is Beast Master really important for this? Each attempt is 90% and i get 38% per day on him

[junior dune]

Likely yes since you can stop all enemies with BM. I remember it being difficult at first as well

38% per day seems low though, what skull do you have?

[radiant gazelle]

I've been stuck on frosty souls for like a month so im just tired

[rancid scaffold]

get bubble and better skull then you get more charge per day

[silver wolf]

I did all i could to outdmg the moles on healing kattlekruk also i pushed w5 on bubo

[radiant gazelle]

will do thanks

[bleak gazelle]

i should level that bubble

[junior dune]

Hard to give more specific advice then. W6 is likely not too far away thankfully

[radiant gazelle]

Should I use Pulse Mage? He's level 40 (Bolder is 23)

[bleak gazelle]

more boulders

[fallow aurora]

once u unlock boulder u basically never use the 1st 2 towers

[radiant gazelle]

Is it worth trying to get voidinator? Just need the void salts

[radiant gazelle]

How much damage do you do? I'm in the same boat stuck on kruk

[junior dune]

Given that you don't even have enough money to get lvl 5 towers before dieing you will probably not be able to even afford it here. In general is voidinator really quite good though and you don't need to get more then 1 lvl

[silver wolf]

I do 40 mil dmg max on bubo i did star signs and i was spamming bubble upgrades on mage class knowing that i will push w5 for the past 10 days while side tasking vman

[radiant gazelle]

Okay. How much would a lv1 cost if you know

[keen pier]

if youre working on frigid, there is no reason to be using only a horned skull

[bleak gazelle]

you don't need void for frosty until like...wave 39? iirc

[radiant gazelle]

I just want tab 4 😭

[solar seal]

def need void for boss @ 50

[keen pier]

upgrade to prickle before worrying much about frigids

[bleak gazelle]

ah maybe it's that one then

[radiant gazelle]

I cannot afford the 50 redox salts atm

[bleak gazelle]

rip

[keen pier]

like, it sounds like you arent far enough to be worrying about frigid souls yet

[solar seal]

can you link your talents? maybe we can optimize a bit to help you kill kruk

[silver wolf]

Aight

[junior dune]

I actually don't know. Significantly more expensive then all other towers though

[keen pier]

your map progress doesnt really matter, you arent progressed enough in construction/worship

[radiant gazelle]

I'm 98% of the way till leveling up my red salts

[radiant gazelle]

Yeah salts are killing me

[silver wolf]

Wait can i send ie link in this channel

[solar seal]

you should be able to

[keen pier]

being in w5 tho means you should def hav the lab node for refinery speed active 100% of the time at least, and that helps

[silver wolf]

Alright

https://www.idleonefficiency.com/players

[radiant gazelle]

Most of my characters are in the lab with goat

[solar seal]

link should be [firstplayername].idleonefficiency.com if you made your profile public

[silver wolf]

Wait

[bleak gazelle]

Then press upload and copy/paste link

[radiant gazelle]

I'll try to get 3 good skulls

(2 es 1 bm)

[silver wolf]

https://yes13.idleonefficiency.com

[bleak gazelle]

don't forget mman/vman

[silver wolf]

There

[keen pier]

i didnt really get much on my frigids before getting all 10 on prickle, and my first place to spend frigids was on once again upgrading all 10 skulls

[silver wolf]

Dont mind the names tho

[junior dune]

Putting an axe and pick on the bubo will give a bunch of stats and thus damage

[bleak gazelle]

this one's my favorite

[silver wolf]

Lol

[keen pier]

now im walled on tab4 recipes all asking for 1000 green salt >.<

[short sparrow]

Oh yeah I should do that, I was waiting for my charge to build back up so I could get enough

[radiant gazelle]

My main goal is anvil tab 4 because me entire account is locked behind that, but ill try

[upbeat nebula]

Are colosseum chests affected by drop rate?

[keen pier]

upgrading all skulls and trap boxes costing a total of 20k green salt

[silver wolf]

Alright

[radiant gazelle]

i believe so

[junior dune]

What is your max lvl for books?

[silver wolf]

137

[bleak gazelle]

No bleach log sample for purple 1 bubble

missing these damage% stamps

[junior dune]

Memorial skull doesn't help damage at all for the boss. If you move the skill points over to symbols of beyond you will immediately get some gains from +5 all lvls

[bleak gazelle]

If you have any ladles, you could throw them at Turkey meal

[solar seal]

pardon the ghetto mouse circles - tab 3 talent 1 will require you to play actively but i assume you'll be there - if you don't want to do that then ignore that one

[silver wolf]

Yh i changed samples for mob mats for void armor

[solar seal]

if you are okay with some manual work, only trigger aura when too many moles get near that weren't handled by the bouncing ball

[silver wolf]

Wait should i swap back and fourth for builds

[junior dune]

Cooking can be significantly improved over the next few days. Unlocking the next yellow bubble, diamond chef, will be huge for that. Unlocking new meals will be a bit of a struggle for a while since you don't have the monolith pet

[solar seal]

this build is only to kill kruk

[silver wolf]

Oh

[solar seal]

its shit otherwise

(pardon the french)

[silver wolf]

Well thanks ill try it

[solar seal]

most of you damage will likely be from tab 4 talent 3/caustic potions since its your big nuke

hopefully fart + cannisters + ball can keep most of moles away, but use aura when they get too close

i think that should work but not sure if its doable at 40M

don't know the limit testing on bubo pre 200 tenteycle

[silver wolf]

I should spam alchemy once more to try and squeeze more dmg then try this build

[solar seal]

you ahve 4 keys

i woul think its worth trying once

[silver wolf]

Yeah

Oh its bcuz im saving talent reset frags

[solar seal]

do you not buy out shops daily?

[junior dune]

Since you have nobisect equipped and only 1 divinity level you should be able to get a bit damage from the blessing. Getting to lvl 5 should give +15% damage for instance

[silver wolf]

I do its just bcuz i just got back to this game

[solar seal]

ah ic ic

[radiant gazelle]

40M is what ive read is the sweet spot

i've gotten it from 5m to 10m to 20m but now ive done all the easy alchemy and stuff

[solar seal]

specifically for bubo or generally?

[radiant gazelle]

Just general from ctrl+f in chat. I'm stuck on the kruk fight aswell but im DK

[solar seal]

DK/ES have lower bars to entry due to their skills - so a little different with bubo

[silver wolf]

Well do u recommend upgrading the first upg in cooking i forgot the name cuz it gives dmg

[radiant gazelle]

Yeah. Bubo has good aoe but low aoe damage

[solar seal]

its also the need for enough deaths to keep the aoe going.. otherwise the aoe is too inconsistent

[radiant gazelle]

The problem is you get attacked from 2 sides

I could likely kill kruk if i was only getting them from 1 side

[solar seal]

their skills ahve long cd so if you get unlucky w/ tenteyecle procs, you might have lot of leaks

[radiant gazelle]

yeah, my main is a bubo but hes so hard to use its sad

[solar seal]

200 tenteyecle will be a game changer for you then

you'll fall in love with your bubo again

[radiant gazelle]

good

[solar seal]

getting to 200 is the challenge

[radiant gazelle]

its sailing right

im at like 154 i think max

[solar seal]

that, achievement, salt lick

rift slug if you lucky enough

[radiant gazelle]

1 more salt lick and i can get 155

Is my DK build alright or am i doing something wron

[solar seal]

-should have at bare minimum 1 pt in tab2 talent 5
-i don't know your alchemy levels but make sure your tab 3 talent 10 gets max benefit from your bubble level
-i personally like tab 4 talent 9 over talent 6 cause it provides % str but i do'nt know if that's stronger for you - its also dependent on your gaming level so hard to say

[radiant gazelle]

thanks ill keep thaat in mind

somehow i lost accuracy i dont even know what i could have done so i gotta fix that

ah its bc someone was out of lab

[junior dune]

Always use symbols of beyond

The orb should get a book

[solar seal]

oh good point, for kruk could shift all orb pts into symbols

[radiant gazelle]

well i think its better if i put them into like str% and gaming damage but yeah

[junior dune]

Oh right it's for kruk so it's pure damage you want

Ignore the orb then

[radiant gazelle]

whats the site that lets me search and it gives me all sources of something

[solar seal]

idleoninsight

[radiant gazelle]

like i wanna see how to get more starting points in tower defense

[junior dune]

If you're crit chance is good you may want tab 4 talent 3 high

[solar seal]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=starting

[junior dune]

You don't need points in the potion tab 3 talent 10 since the max lvl is kept. That would give you 70 extra points, but you don't really have anywhere good to spend it

Actually do that and then transfer those points to tab 2 talent 5 for a bunch extra strength

[radiant gazelle]

yeah okay

is this really just unobtainable

[junior dune]

Yep

[solar seal]

lots of stamps in game that don't actually exist

[cyan pulsar]

how hard is it to defeat world 5 boss with bb?

[bleak gazelle]

the few people who've come through have normally had about 80m damage

lots of running back and forth since your aoe is kind of small range outside of the fire explosion

[cyan pulsar]

hmm my bb is lvl 213 with a max of 17m damage

I dont think I'll be able to do it

almost got full void armor

[bleak gazelle]

Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, artifacts, divinities, dungeon flurbos, and talents are all sources of damage

[cyan pulsar]

Idk how tho but I got all magma recipes

can you 3d print grass leafs?

[bleak gazelle]

crystal farming or chopping

[cyan pulsar]

alr

[bleak gazelle]

sorry kaito, i'll use the from this server

[cyan pulsar]

is quickslap bubble good?

[radiant gazelle]

who here is nerdy enough to know what this is from just looking at it

[keen pier]

so i just learned that dungeon weapons are on the slab list...i already have my dungeon weapons upgraded tot he point that lowest tier weapons dont exist. am i just fucked there?

2 classes havent done dungeon before, so worried about bottom tier spear/bow

[bleak gazelle]

you should get them all the next time you dungeon

[fallow aurora]

wave 21 w3 td

[quiet pewter]

nah you good, game will award tehm

[radiant gazelle]

is it any good, just curious

but yes, you are correct

[keen pier]

alright, thanks. thats nice to hear, woulda been quite a few items missing forver

[glacial crow]

where is the colisseum in w5?

[fallow aurora]

its good if u don't lose a multikill tier when using it

[fallow aurora]

maccies (2nd map) iirc

[glacial crow]

thx

[radiant gazelle]

kraken is so op wtf

it pushed it like half way across the map and then stun locked the boss

[cyan pulsar]

how much hp do the moles have during the world 5 boss fight?

[radiant gazelle]

900m iirc

[cyan pulsar]

alr

[radiant gazelle]

Im realizing all my TD issues were actually skill issues

[silver wolf]

Wait do i upgrade lightning bolt or no for kattlekruk

[solar seal]

i don't think anyone answered you: its good up til around ~300, afterwards the benefits have diminsihing returns

[cyan pulsar]

alr thanks

[mighty rover]

Grrr need more ticket sources

[solar seal]

lightning is your main damage and what makes ES busted for bosses. the scaling on it is insane

[short sparrow]

Whew, all skulls are now upgraded to frigid, and I got a new best on w1 TD (100)

[solar seal]

now you should be able to max skilled dimwit :3

[silver wolf]

No not ES its the tab 2 talent 1 for bubo

[short sparrow]

So true!! I'll do that next, when all my charge is back

[solar seal]

oh mb - no ignore it

[silver wolf]

Alright

[short sparrow]

The dreadlo skulls need 10k nullo each are u kidding me lmao

[bleak gazelle]

better get them omni procs going

[radiant gazelle]

is that a vman thing

or the dk one

[bleak gazelle]

divinity

[radiant gazelle]

oh that thing

[short sparrow]

Is it worth using shiny snitch prayer?

[thorn kindle]

eyy<?

2 attempts and got it yay

[upbeat nebula]

I feel like I should probably stop ignoring Killroy, but the bonuses seem really minor.

[bleak gazelle]

free books, refinery cycles, arcade balls. there's 1 or 2 equinox challenges tied to it and a tome milestone

new stuff is probably good too?

[junior dune]

I think the new jade gain is the best when you've unlocked the third kilroy

The equinox challenge requires 2000 kills so you need to upgrade your time a whole bunch and get lucky with the map

I wouldn't be surprised if it's the last cloud I finish

[fallow aurora]

even with DK on citringes and time at level 60+ I only managed to get 1.9k

I need a good map on bubo

[solar seal]

that's rough

[strong shale]

buddy of mine is wondering if we can filter coins

since he doesnt have autoloot he cant CC overnight

[fallow aurora]

sadly no

[bleak gazelle]

don't coins despawn pretty fast?

!despawn

[obtuse orbit]

All items on the ground despawn after an hour, while coins despawn after 20 minutes.

[strong shale]

think the game crashes before then

[bleak gazelle]

rip

[junior dune]

I wish things despawned way faster

I haven't had like any non-cog related crashes for a month now

And I regularly forget to filter my mob materials

[strong shale]

fuckin pong is hard LOL

[vocal ibex]

For the new mobs in party how many people I need, also do we need to be in same map?

[strong shale]

2 ppl, same map, worlds 1 to 3

[scenic nimbus]

what's the best thing to buy in skull shop now? still ttalent book and refinery ?

[bright meteor]

Bro doesn't have killroy prime?

[scenic nimbus]

I post w/c srry

[cinder bear]

Killroy is heavily time/money gated. I've done every fight possible but I still only have the first three reward unlocks available. I unlocked reward 4-6 from equinox (placing them in the reward menu but still needing #kills to open) before I even opened reward 3!

[fallow aurora]

wtf look at this guys

[bright meteor]

Money??

[dawn depot]

Wake killroy with gems

[cinder bear]

Am I missing something obvious or am I just getting screwed by lady luck when it comes to gaming nuggets?

I'm gaming level 92 and my costs are all around the 30 green mark. (not sure if it goes green at the quin- or sex- tillion point)
My current nugget highscore is 2.7k and I've had this now for a LONG time. I think I was still only in the trillions (maybe high billions) of bits price range for stuff when it dropped but ever since then 99% of my rolls are barely 10% of my max and maybe once a week I'll get anything over 1k. I've not seen a 2k nugget ever since this one highscore.

I understand it's luck but something really does feel off when I have a a chance to get anything from 1 to 100% of my current max or higher and nearly every roll is in the bottom 50%. I'd expect a fair amount of failed nuggets in the 1.5k+ range.

[cinder bear]

P2W with gems.

[lone dagger]

Am at w6 and dont have even one of this

[strong shale]

i get plenty, and i mean plenty of 100-200 rolls and my max is wildly higher than my lowest, my last upgrade was from 6.4k to 6.9k

[simple wadi]

Eh. I've been stuck at 1.3m for about four months now. And was stuck at 500k for half a year before that.

[strong shale]

equinox is the biggest gain towards your nugget upgrades, else dont expect it for a while

https://i.imgur.com/lAiPbtR.png

[cinder bear]

Were you at least getting rolls there were somewhat high though?

[simple wadi]

Nope. Even now my typical roll is ~2k when my nugget is 1.3m

Wildly off from where my nugget is.

[gilded pond]

Did you have the equinox upgrade?

[cinder bear]

My max is like 2/3 of yours but my current high score is like 1/3. :/

[strong shale]

itll just take a lil while

[cinder bear]

Nope and I'm probably miles away from itr too.

[strong shale]

do you have chemical plant unlocked? i have it and im getting tons of rolls but never an upgrade

[gilded pond]

How many rolls since your last upgrade?

[strong shale]

i dont even know, at least like 40-50

maybe higher, but before that was hundreds, and my upgrade was only ~500 from a 6.5k

[gilded pond]

that is NOTHING

Not to be rude, but people are averaging 10k+ rolls at times

especially if you don't have equinox

[strong shale]

i mean its relative depending on your shovel level

[cinder bear]

That's the final mutation right? If fo then no.

[gilded pond]

You can check on IT and see how many

[strong shale]

IT doesnt show me bc i dont have equinox

[gilded pond]

True, but 40-50 is barely anything, still

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/NCKbk1c.png

and i for sure hadnt upgraded in a few

its more than 50 im sure, its been a few days

but ikwym

[cinder bear]

@gilded pond I started this conversation with this messahe if you can take a quick read and maybe have any feedback. XD

First image is over 24hrs afk because of the android update delay, second was after going through all my toons (due to Doot I get the chance for gaming time from AFK time) and third image is after doing the log.

According to IT my max pull is 180k, my current highscore is 2.7k and all my nuggest are about 10% of that! I'm not asking for the world, it just seems like something fucked or I'm missing something major.

[bleak gazelle]

rng be rng

[gilded pond]

That definitely seems low, but depends on your number of rolls total since last upgrade. Each time you roll, your min and max increase slightly (but that might only be with the equinox upgrade, someone else would know better than me).

I basically got one upgrade early into gaming and then didn't see another one until a few months after getting the equinox update

What is your cycle time for growth?

[cinder bear]

It's definitely been a good few days if not a week since upgrading ym shovel.

[bleak gazelle]

lul, yeah, that's normal, even at low nuggets

[gilded pond]

Not your shovel, your last nug upgrade

[cinder bear]

Growth time is 1.06hrs, 33 green bits to upgrade along with most of my bit purchases all being at that ~30g bits mark.

Oooh nug upgrade! Over a month, maybe two even.

[gilded pond]

And you do not have the equinox upgrade?

[cinder bear]

I made reasonable progress for ages going rom like 1 to 4 to 9 highscores then things moved faster as I got mutations still with my highscore still creaping up but nothing this 2.7k.

[cinder bear]

Nope.

[gilded pond]

Do you have chems unlocked?

[cinder bear]

The last mutation is chemical plant right?

Then nope to that too. Only just unlocked Evergreen today.

[gilded pond]

Yeah, the fast forward one

So thats going to be the biggest benefit for you. Basically, every time you use a chem, you fast forward and get more nugs. Late game you're looking to chem chain, where basically you collect all, use a chem, sprinkler, log, rinse and repeat

Focus on lowering your cycle time and trying to get the last plant. My garden almost always has an obnoxious amount of chems and I can usually sit for over an hour running the cycle

Most times I quit with them still here because its obnoxious to cycle like that indefinitely

[cinder bear]

Should I use the cat statue to simply increase cycle speed > picks > mutation attempts then?

[gilded pond]

probably turn on the rock to reduce time and get more plants in the garden so you can get more dna and keep rolling for the chem

and the % chance for getting the next plant is always super low. Roll it a .1% regularly and eventually you'll get it (some may disagree, but thats what I think most people do)

And focus time reduction. Its slow, but it pays off

[strong shale]

thats what most ppl do, they roll 0.1-0.3%

[cinder bear]

Id read that for the later ones it's best to simply try more often with the low rolls than try to grind it up to even 5%.

[strong shale]

LF> snail :[

[gilded pond]

LF?

[strong shale]

looking for :p

i just unlocked pong today, and its obnoxious as hell

[gilded pond]

Pong is only something I do when I'm sitting in class or don't have the brainpower to do other stuff. The lag makes it really annoying. My high score is only like 14k, but most games are like 5k 😐

[primal terrace]

Only 14k

💀

[gilded pond]

People out here actually have the 25k+ lol

[primal terrace]

Huh

No way

[strong shale]

mines like 6.5k xd

[cinder bear]

Do you guys know how the cat rock upgrades work by the way?

The default is 4x more speed and 3x less value. This is equivalent to total speed being 400% (+300%) and and value being 33%. (-66%)

Do the upgrades to it increase the total speed or increase the amount the speed is increased by?
E.G
+50% speed bonus from upgrading the statue.

4x with 50% extra would be 6x total or 600% speed.
400% speed + 50% extra would be 450% speed or 4.5x.

[cinder bear]

I don't have it unlocked but from what I've read it's best to go to a relatively empty map with no mobs, wait 2-5 minutes and then start the game. Mobs just cause it to lag out and apparently waiting on the map does some sort of magic in the background.

[gilded pond]

Good to know. I just haven't cared enough to really try it, but that makes sense

[bleak gazelle]

i got 19k while active ES farming so ymmv

[gilded pond]

Your questions above: Someone else would know the mechanics better than me. Idk how it works

[cinder bear]

Yeah but clearly you're just dossing about on your work PC while you work for NASA's super computers. :P

[strong shale]

bro whats with the pong thing moving on its own on PC

do i have to unplug my mouse HAHA

[cinder bear]

Gotta plug it into a different USB port Psycho Mantis style. :P

[silver wolf]

I think i just lost all my braincells fighting a skull for the past 2 hours u prob wont believe this but i trickshotted a mole somehow

All of my keyboard is sweat

Its the first time an idle game feels competetive for me

Anyway tysm kaito

I did defeat him

[zinc torrent]

How much damage do you do

[solar seal]

welcoem to w6 :3

[solar seal]

based on their earlier posts, it was 40M bubo

[rigid raven]

What class do you recommend for the boss? I got a level 260 elemental with 14M dmg, but don’t know if that is best.

[bleak gazelle]

~30-80m for ES/DK > others > BB/vman, may need to redo talents

Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, artifacts, divinities, dungeon flurbos, and talents are all sources of damage

[rigid raven]

Thanks !

[strong shale]

PONG IS GONNA MAKE ME LOSE it

[wanton obsidian]

Is it worth it to buy the 5 starcardifer to up my crystal chance?

I do have the double chips

[balmy garnet]

yes

i 5* crystal spawns then afk%

[strong shale]

drop rate is good too

[mystic pike]

is the kitsune roxie activated when it is awake or sleeping in gaming?

[strong shale]

awake

[wanton obsidian]

Is it worth it to buy it now or try to push rift to unlock ruby cards?

[haughty flower]

am i missing some way to make the sailing UI better?

[balmy garnet]

buy

[balmy garnet]

u do always speed in boats/captains until u don't need speed to 2hr sail anymore

[proven basin]

react :3 #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[balmy garnet]

ES with min 30m dmg and booked ⚡ skill

[solar seal]

not missing anything, the in game UI is awful. highly recommend becoming familiar with IE or IT's information as it is way better and will help you progress sailing 10x more efficiently

[haughty flower]

thats what im using now, just tricky when i misplace a captain and then cant call them back within the horde

[solar seal]

yeah there's no way around that

its awful

[haughty flower]

shame the one of the most fun skills has the worst UIs lol

[wanton obsidian]

It's not fun at all

[forest dust]

What's mid game

[solar seal]

prob somewhere around w5

[forest dust]

IM MID GAME?

[strong shale]

there is

[forest dust]

I'm proud of myself ngl

[strong shale]

you can trash the captain, and itll say to return, and you can return without trashing

[strong shale]

^

[hoary oracle]

worlds 1-3 and mabye 4 are considered realitivly early

[forest dust]

Wait how long do I need to keep everyone in soul divinity again

[solar seal]

oh that's clever

[strong shale]

also finally got working towards wurms, needa get that shtamp

then i think ill park my bubo doing something and get my skills up acc wide

[haughty flower]

my bubo got his ass kicked at wurms, had to go in there w/ ES

[strong shale]

id say once you have purrmep, level ~50 lab with level 40 div on most/all chars and you're pushing w6 skills

then you're mid game

[lethal aspen]

midgame is once your dooted

[strong shale]

real

[hoary oracle]

is dk a good option for w5 pushing? my es is kinda underleveled

[strong shale]

level your ES while pushing w5

[haughty flower]

pushing w5 is a great way to level es

[forest dust]

What's purrmep?

[strong shale]

divinity god, the kitty

someone links to it and it 2xs all divnity gains acc wide

[hoary oracle]

is dk good enough or is es neccesarry

[forest dust]

dooted?

[lethal aspen]

[hoary oracle]

im probably gonna be at the end of w6 with no doot

[forest dust]

what's doot

Am I dumb?

[strong shale]

pet companion

[hoary oracle]

the best pet. yknow that dog in w1 doot is the best one of those pets. has something to do with getting all divinity bonuses at the same time or something like that

[strong shale]

yupp

[forest dust]

I don't understand what dooted means

[strong shale]

dooted means you unlock doot

[hoary oracle]

means you have doot

[forest dust]

ohb

[muted plover]

best collo for gems ?

[forest dust]

I will prob get dooted next year

[hoary oracle]

the saddest thing is that in a different idleon account that i had barely any progress in i got rift slug(the second best pet) and in my main account i cant even get past sheepie

i would later lose that account cause i was stupid and didnt put anything to remember my password and so i forgot. ☠️

so much damage 😎 (1/30th of the way there

[solar seal]

DK can clear w5 fine

[hoary oracle]

k

[snow dove]

happy @bleak gazelle ?

[bleak gazelle]

[snow dove]

das u

also almost 100 in mining with vman

[toxic saddle]

Nice 🙏

[bleak gazelle]

new pendant is great if you need the damage to hit MK when pushing w6 active

[snow dove]

no need then

cuz i know i won't hit mk lmao

[sly cedar]

I got the idle skilling trophy yesterday

[snow dove]

still bought it cuz slab exist

[snow dove]

still waiting on mine

getting it slowly but surely, just too lazy to do anything, should restart for more mk tho

[sly cedar]

the last stretch of damage generation for teehees is tedious af

[bleak gazelle]

what'd your damage end up at?

[snow dove]

nah i deal way more damage to one shot everything in game

[sly cedar]

you need to kill teehee 5 for exiscerate shrine to kill teehee 15

[sly cedar]

have u gotten upto the teehees?

[snow dove]

i do like quad yellow star

[sly cedar]

not enough

[gilded pond]

For reference, here are my rolls with the equinox upgrade, 2.4k rolls since my last upgrade, and a 37.9m nug currently

[bleak gazelle]

still 3 solar here, close to 4 though

[sly cedar]

need 7 yellow stars

[bleak gazelle]

idk, doesn't joker say you can do it with 5.5 if you want to 2min afk claim fight?

[snow dove]

2*

i need to do wave 50 on all thingies

for equinox

[sly cedar]

ill go look up my damage ace

[bleak gazelle]

Besides doing Realm, and all the other normal stuff, If you need dmg keep working on Pets/Tunnels, and if you really want to know then the full process would be: Get around 5-5.5* Damage, upgrade Asylum Eviscerate Shrine and the Pink Mope Mop Tank in Pets to have a total of +12 or +11 on both together, and then go to Teehee3 or 4(be able to get at least T or Q kills amounts from AFK gains), go to Cards tab and back to Fight tab, close the game on Fight and wait like 5 minutes to make sure you see that you get kills on TH15.

[solar seal]

i finished IS with 5* damage

[snow dove]

no joke i can't upgrade my realm no more

[sly cedar]

ah so i overkilled the damage

[snow dove]

got OFA for all mobs

[solar seal]

5* + full 12 eviscerate on TH4 got me to TH16

[snow dove]

defo yeah

i just need mk to do it faster

[bleak gazelle]

12 evis? mine says I have 9 but I get 10 from it apparently?

[sly cedar]

on the left im getting 6* 564qq damage

[reef plank]

How do i get stacked in sailing. The weakest in terms of my progress among the w5 skills is sailing

[solar seal]

i think its 4 from shrines and rest from breeding research tubes

[sly cedar]

yeah thats right

[solar seal]

unfortunately, gotta use IE/IT to efficiently do sailing

[sly cedar]

just the 1 research bonus

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, think my shrine is still stuck on 3

can't remember what traces i'm stuck on now

[solar seal]

the planting traces were my bottleneck for a while

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, i think i got past the first hump

[reef plank]

What should i do?

[lethal aspen]

what your boat speed / boats unlocked at

[lethal aspen]

IE on phone looks disgusting lol. gotta go unlock more boats

[solar seal]

mainly its 2 things. 1) send ships to islands that are within their minimum travel time. so if a ship can go 121k meters in your minimum time, try to only send them to islands that are less than that distance. 2) you want to try to only upgrade boats so you hit each breakpoint which provides the most bang for your buck for the material invested. IT explicity says xx/yy for loot and speed upgrades while IE requires you to hover over it

[reef plank]

The minimum time is 2hr right?

[solar seal]

loot breakpoints are every 8 upgrades, speed upgrades are every 7

[reef plank]

So i shouldn't send my ships to islands that take more than that to travel

[solar seal]

starts at 2 hrs, and is decreased by SB family bonus and something else, forgetting off the top of my head

[reef plank]

How about unlocking new islands?

[solar seal]

shiny pet bonuses

[reef plank]

What if the travel distance is greater than my boat speed?

Should i wait till my boat speed is sufficient enough?

And also, between speed and loot, which one should i prioritize?

[solar seal]

this is up to your discretion. you should only send boats that can still do the trip in the minimum time, but if you have all the previous artifacts discovered, it doesn't hurt to send more from your fleet even if they might take a little longer. or you can use them to farm materials from earlier islands so you can keep upgrading boats

[reef plank]

I see

[solar seal]

this depends. for very high prio artifacts like fury relic on island 9/cloud 8. most would probably send entire fleet including slower ships cause the artifact opens up potential for bubo to start CC cooking

[reef plank]

How about my third question?

[solar seal]

early sailing: prio is speed until you can upgrade your boats enough to the point that they can all easily reach furthest island without needing a speed captain. afterwards loot becomes king

[reef plank]

Alright, thanks

I heard that you should focus on your first ship first?

Is that true?

[honest patrol]

How do I get over 100m on the colo?

[solar seal]

that's one strategy. its the easiest boat cause it only needs gold bars which can be gotten from any island

[reef plank]

Ah

Okay

[solar seal]

but attempting 1% and lower odds using only 1 boat every 2hours is going to take forever

the 1st boat can be your headliner and spearhead to new islands first, but don't neglect your other boats (like everything else in this game)

[reef plank]

How about captains?

According to your information. Speed bonus captain seems the best at my stage

[solar seal]

partially class dependent, partially gear/dmg dependent. make sure to spam full 5 waves at once, and need a good aoe class - w1-w4 usually DK

[tidal sluice]

guys where is erruption river ?

[solar seal]

its same as above. speed is prio early cause getting to islands is the hardest part

[reef plank]

Alrighty, thank you

[tidal sluice]

tysm

and please guys where is niagrilled falls ?

[tidal sluice]

thank you so much

[upper hornet]

time to restart the talent book grind

[honest patrol]

I've gotten 260m on the w6 colo with bubo but haven't gotten over 28m on w5 colo with dk and bubo

[stuck river]

Is the tier 3 class gear better or chizoar better

[bleak gazelle]

chiz, others just for slab

[stuck river]

Okay Ty

[strong shale]

Seeing beeg cash increases daily from gmush kills makes me wish i did it earlier but glad im doing it now

[split orbit]

does anything help with plunderous kills per hour? besides respawn speed

[bleak gazelle]

vman enhancement that forces spawns at 75

[wide swallow]

is there a chance i could beat kruke or not yet ?

[bleak gazelle]

~30-80m for ES/DK > others > BB/vman, may need to redo talents
Alch, stamps, cards, starsigns, po box, equinox, meals, artifacts, divinities, dungeon flurbos, and talents are all sources of damage

You could try it with 20-25, but typically 30m is low end for DK already

[wide swallow]

idk how else im gonna get another 20 mil damage pump i feel stuck

[bleak gazelle]

Good thing I just listed a bunch of areas you can find damage from

[wide swallow]

ig i have to do smth abt it then

[bleak gazelle]

That usually helps

[wide swallow]

also isnt the bonus abt divinities locked ? can i increase damage source from them ? i do have the mantis god on

[bleak gazelle]

Nobisect minor link has damage, but flutterbis and kattlekruk have blessings that give damage, too

[lethal aspen]

probably talent build issue, your gear looks alright

[bleak gazelle]

I just add it on there because people attempt w5 boss at all different manners of account progress

[wide swallow]

shhhh dont look alchemy and stamps

still dont have world 1 yet but arent they just base single damage

[bleak gazelle]

there are base stat and damage% stamps, as well

lot of multipliers for base stats

[gilded pond]

Why am I getting this? I have the sovereign upgrade but haven't found a single sovereign yet

[lethal aspen]

its buggy ignore it

[gilded pond]

Man the sovereign grind is slow then

[strong shale]

What should i work on tonight

[lethal aspen]

resample

[strong shale]

Skills w/ tool upgrades or crafting gear

I did my samples 2 days ago

[stiff oasis]

any tips winning ping pong in gaming? i cant even pass 10k score

[copper grotto]

how do i get the thing that lets me put shrines in town to get the bonuses on that world?

[bleak gazelle]

lab node, will also let you level it from any map in that world

sailing artifact will let the bonuses affect all worlds

[toxic saddle]

He will stay forever

[sly cedar]

what about minigames tho

[stiff oasis]

what the fuvk,

[toxic saddle]

Nah, I’ve been gone for a little bit

[toxic saddle]

Sorry 😅 service here is shitty lol, I’ve been gone for a month, and didn’t want to worry about catching anymore XD

My messages are sending 4 minutes late 🤣

[abstract flume]

gaming feels slow to me now what your guys tips i have up to the bush unlocked

[stiff oasis]

any tips for this

[solid goblet]

Did you try gitting gud?

[stiff oasis]

what is gud

[solid goblet]

Btw, is it still lagging for you since the "engine improvements"

Getting mixed answers

[stiff oasis]

are we in the same channel

[solid goblet]

What

[stiff oasis]

[solid goblet]

You're confusing me man

[light iron]

does anyone know if cooking efficiency from level cooking is additive even when your doing something else or do you have to be in the cooking area (does that make sense)

[bleak gazelle]

efficiency is only for when you're afk in the kitchen

cooking meals on the tables is cooking speed

[light iron]

thanks you

thank*

[gilded sedge]

Good

[wild walrus]

is necklace, cauldron, and rng wings worth buying?

[gentle furnace]

1 neck, cauldron must buy

[wild walrus]

Okay

i brought the cauldron

I might hold off on the necklace

[solar seal]

rng wings only worth if you get a few so likely not worth unless you like gamba

[wild walrus]

only wings i have is the rift one

[strong shale]

okay im done until this game gets its lagged fkin finished with https://i.imgur.com/gtcJkhW.png

literally 2 rounds or so from the achievement

[sinful aurora]

Imo forget the necklace. Thats not even 1 multikill, this kind of damage gets you nothing.

[sly cedar]

anyone know whats the best place to farm obol fragments?

[eternal wasp]

W2 sandpots

Only obols is the sausage or snelbie or sandpots

Choose any one

[sly cedar]

sausage?

[eternal wasp]

I always forget that mob name

[eternal wasp]

Tyson

Boxing sausage

[sly cedar]

huh, i see that as a steak

nearly finished with my pop obol set, long overdue lol

now i can get fragments to upgrade the rest to silver while i get some dice obols at the same time

family pops are done, just getting 1 personal set done now that i can swap onto active char when drop hunting

[gentle furnace]

Did you buy the pendant to even say that

[sinful aurora]

30% dmg, even with chip doubler is 60%. You need 100% to get a mk tier.

[strong shale]

its dmg multi

[abstract flume]

damage gets you mk tiers it gives damage so how does it not give mk tier

[sinful aurora]

You need 100% more damage to get a mk tier

[strong shale]

thats not how math works

[sinful aurora]

Thats literally how math works. Every mk tier needs double the damage from the previous.

[strong shale]

but 100% total damage

[pseudo bison]

can you farm any DNA splicer recipe once you unlock pet breeding? or do u have to have like w2 splicer equipped while farming for w3 splicer recipe?

[strong shale]

or 100% multiplicative dmg

you can get them whenever https://i.imgur.com/BcLd09b.png

[abstract flume]

ok so i need 100m damage to get mk and putting it gives me that so it give me mk tier

[sinful aurora]

100% multiplicative means double the damage.

[strong shale]

its only good either really early or for active ES

divine scarf is better on anything else

[abstract flume]

I'm just saying it can give you a mk tier not saying if it's good or not on who

[strong shale]

yeah ik

[abstract flume]

i was trying to say to him the way he was putting was like saying damage doesn't give mk tier

[balmy garnet]

wtf is this chat
https://youtu.be/i2zULl8ujlo?si=U7sQej_3Jb3ViqK-

some ppl's math doesn't math

[sinful aurora]

You gotta timestamp. No way we're watching the whole video to still not know what you mean.

[wanton obsidian]

I haven't actually properly active on SB before, what are his priority skills to book?

[echo gulch]

640M DPS enough for normal kruk?

[wanton obsidian]

More than enough

[echo gulch]

Problems is i have 1k defence and still my kph is 2k

[wanton obsidian]

What does kph got to do with kattle kruk

[echo gulch]

Pushing to it

[wanton obsidian]

Oh

That's pretty bad yeah

[sinful aurora]

If youre at citringes, vman has the enhancement for the flag, and you already got a decent book in most of sb's skills and are wondering what to max
All active dmg skills that increase number of targets with their lv. Nothing else really matters.

[wanton obsidian]

I'm asking cuz I have to do rift

I'm at rift 16 and apparently I have enough dmg to do rift 41 and maybe try for 46

[sinful aurora]

Oh. Then you need to deactivate vman enhancement.

It interferes with rift since it caps the flag at 100.

[wanton obsidian]

Oh and my SB is very neglected it's mostly lvl 100 for his combat skills