#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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it's hella broken 
good catch up mechanic for a lot of folks. endgame is complaining about it but lava was saying that potential future updates will make it not as big a deal
Uggghh I might have to drop the money for it, I always think of it as supporting lava, since single dev and all
He deserves it
Me still reaching W6 further without $20 OP packs. 
Tbh I feel like buying Island Expedition more than new pack.
how does Arctis' blessing work? I just unlocked it
This or Link bonus?
the link bonus!
how do I trigger it? I went to lab but didn't see any of my chars uploaded
You have to link someone onto it
So it will have the "power" icon on
This but blue
What the best strat to unlock artifacts 3rd level? do you put all ships to 1 island untill its unlocked?
I only aim for important artifacts and check the ship speed.
ah thanks! I didn't realise I had to unlink from the other god first
You can select multiple characters during one Unlink, if u dunno yet.
ty!!
Elemental Sorcerer can change their 2nd link anytime. Just stand on top left platform without having to unlock the said god.
Yeah okay I bought the pack
comes with a gold stopwatch, too. make sure you do hoops before you use it
does anvil pipeline in automation arm still give you xp
Should be, but it only triggers once per day, so it's an ignorable thing for most players.
ahh okay makes sense, was wondering why nothin was collected
So what's the tome score to get top 50% around right now?
"TomePct": [
9753,
15629,
19740,
21278,
23557,
24118,
25029
], from the toolbox json
So 9753 should be the 50% limit
does the fertilizer growth time include the squirrel bonus or is that applied seperately?
yes, you should get acorns from it
In 5 hours after my weekly reset it's time for the biggest gem spending spree I've ever done with bundle gems. 2 jewels, 7 chips and a pristine charm. I so hope I get the other card doubler.

Also this number is getting quite nice
Does this count for the equinox challenge if I don't have it unlocked? Kind of got here accidnetally
Based on how it displays your max value in toolbox I think so, but I'm not sure
interesting
1/34
Damn, I guess my shrine is lacking
how much dmg do i need for beat W5 boss?
about 30-80m for ES/DK > others > BB/vman
i have bubo pusher
so probably somewhere between 40-60
be our guinea pig and let us know
most people end up being on es/dk/bb so we normally get those numbers
okay thank you, ill try it soon and will write how much i could do :DD
with bubo you prob need to time using aura for when they get clsoe to boss
so full auto and low damage may not be good combo
gah so close
Might need a bit more damage to kill kruk on vman 
more than a bit
aww a whole contest about ballin scores and i cant get back to my last score board
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53688054864_c67b927f53_o.png Eyyy we made progress
what perk do i want on my sailing captains?
Speed if u can check often, but Loot is the Goat stat.
Most likely speed/speed or speed/loot. Once you have enough upgrades you'll swap to loot/loot
Does anyone know if I need to buy the starter pack before buying the latest pack?
shouldn't need to. new packs are normally the first one you'll see
starter pack is great for the storage space alone
it might show up once the starter pack goes out of shop 
Though it also does have the highest gem/$ ratio of any pack, too
Hey guys, what's the best kruk difficulty to farm cavities?
SOMEONE tell me what the new bundle is???? i saw stamps and otehr stuuf
From the pack?
It levels up stamps food and levels up more bubbles
I think it gives 5 extra lvls to two bubbles already affected by nblb and turns nmlb to a +3 and gives 5 lvls to a random stamp
That means that you can get previously impossible lvls on stamps
And meal
unsure on the bubbles, i've seen a few screenshots from people who didn't have max amount of bubbles being hit that just added 2 more as +5
And that it is bad to have a ton of stamps since they are nearly worthless and take away chances to get actual good stamp lvls
oh, new arcade shop out if you refresh
i mean the daily bubble/meal/stamp lvls
Really good lol
Yep
And I got the arcade stamp!
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
it's a purchaseable pack, so I would assume forever
whats best?
Definitely forge capacity for late game but I don't know for early w5. I would probably put a few lvls into refinery speed
Yeah, I'd probably say refinery > forge > jade/afk?
depending on other progression
I don't think nugget is up there. You will get most of your nuggets through chemicals and logs and faster nuggets won't have much of an impact when you get several at a time
i just went 15 across refinery, forge, and jade
fair enough 
i hope i will appreciate that jade % when i hit w6
been stuck in lab since last week
Soon to hit lvl 15 divinity, so i can finally rotate characters off to catch up on lvls/maps
How much dmg would you recommend for the w5 boss?
30-80m for ES/DK > others > BB/vman
Assuming you have talents distributed in a good manner
Noted
We really should get a pin or copypasta for that. It is by far the most common question in the channel
Pins? People read those? 
No, but people link to those and you can give a more refined answer that way
u should be good on the first dif
it might take a lil time tho
Ohh I get it don't worry 🦥, am already working on my second Vman
nice
is number 8 just perma beginner or waiting for new classes?
Waiting for new classes
If someone has a character starting with P, pls react to this message and we could help eachother out
I get that damage is exponential in this game, but how am i supposed to 100x it
Considering you took a long break and just came back, a bit slowly at first 
But typically, alchemy and stamps, meals, artifacts, cards and cardsets, po box, star signs, divinity blessings
I'm sure someone's linked you the autoreview tool already, but if you want to post your IE/IT here, I can take a look and look through it also
i've seen the spreadsheets, and im working on alchemy with things like FMJ and Shaqeracy. I think my gear is holding my back a lot
Outside of weapons maybe, gear won't make or break you for w3-5
yeah, that's fine. upgrades will help, sure, but they won't give you a magical 10x damage increase
though you may want to work towards next weapon if possible
im pretty close to unlocking anvil tab 4, its just im waiting to get souls
I'm assuming right now your biggest opportunity is to get your Maestro to rank 1 in W1-3 skills so you can go resample on everyone with better efficiency. Then you can use those samples to level stamps/bubbles more 
Ok! My plan was after getting goat to work on my maestro, but i didnt really know what to go for until now
There's a lot of stuff to jump back into after a break, so feel free to ask if you need some more direction 
New arcade now incase you didnt see
oh right, forgot to restart for that...not that it matters cause I spent all my balls 
same
oh, bu ti haven't done killroy this week. maybe i'll spend it all on balls 
thank
The 200% divinity gain artifact is x2 or x3 div points gain?
Are you talking about Urn? If so, then 100% would be 2x what's displayed, 200% would be 3x, I believe
If you hop on the div altar and press Info, it should show you the multiplier
prob a dumb question but can recipes drop actively, been grinding pincers for the splicer for hours lmao
they can
whats the best card set for farming mob drops on ES?
Droprate and damage
emperor mk/tier card is pretty good too 
finished my w5 onyx statues and im still just sittin here with my DK... i should atleast switch to bubo and CC if im gonna waste time
Oh, mob drops. I'm blind
Did you finish beanstalking the golden foods as well?
gross lol
not even close. atleast not for 110k
Yeah, getting all Onyx will take less time
theres no tellin when ill get around to doin that
lol or atleast after i can actually get through w6
The nomwhiches weren't too bad to get 100k of
I'm considering doing the hampters after W6 statues
Hopefully that will be enough to remove hampters from my characters
oh, right, does golden food on character stack with beanstalk bonus?
i've only got two on there so 
Yep
yea
I’m out here struggling to hit 5k golden nomwiches 😭
It's quite easy to get 100% sailing afk gains
i dont reallyu use gold food. too lazy lol
How's your crystal chance and dr?
I’ve been just banking on my w6 quest rewards haha (please help I want to die doing the 150 woodlins quest)
Bad (no choco) and bad (around 7x, no choco for obol farm)
Sailing afk time goes brrr
you can still farm obols without choco
it's kinda shit but 
i did my family set that way
Having choco really is a game changer
I could I guess it does seem pretty infuriating tho if your material cap isn’t too high which mine isn’t
I have a couple gem upgrades to material capacity and on my characters I can hold up to like 20k mats which is nowhere close to enough but damn those high tier material pouches are expensive
ah, no ram either?
I do have ram thankfully
I'm still rocking black pouches with like 92k capacity
What’s the best option for a high level mat pouch
I know there’s a food pouch that’s like 2.5mil grilled cheese and 50 of the w5 gold foods and that’s pretty cheap
tab 3 black pouch is the last cheap one
I'm gonna go for the hampter pouch personally since my refinery is crap
That’s what I have on everyone ;(
How's your matty bag stamp?
Idk if I can spend many more gems on capacity I could always try and up my stamp game tho
Not great I think like level 60
pikc your poison then, 200 hampters for tab 5 pouch or 800 nullos for tab 4 
I did a ton of stamp upgrades since your help a while back with my IE review
i unlocked my elite class but how do i unlock it with my 2. char? its to weak even with the gear from main account
make it stronger then try again
give it some more levels, work on alch/stamps
If you have enough slots matty bag stamp is great
Prob 800 nullos tbh but man that’s so much
wow haha
very helpfull thx
i couldnt guess that
no problemo.
there's also the 1k green salt one, but i don't think that's worth it if you're going for either of the two past it
In my case it was simply character levels. Getting your dudes up from say level 80 to 125 is a massive damage increase
Least dioxide synth heavy tab 4 craft
hmm... i mean i unlocked with my main 80 lvl my 2. char is 50. you think 30 levels make that difference?
Also automation arm food replenisher completely trivialized a lot
yeah dude, you basically have no points to spend at 50 
100% yes and I’d recommend leveling even higher on everyone just leave your dudes fighting
talents are huge gains early on
Weapon power and damage % to enemy talent are your big money here
oke thank you (: i have a few in lab
As long as you have your accuracy talent high enough to hit 100% acc
Dw, managing lab and leveling in w4 is a rite of passage
Oh yeah cards are definitely important. I always recommend using the bosses and nightmares set on fighting characters
alch, stamps, cards and cardsets, po box, star signs, meals are all sources of power
PO boxes were def my slowest for a long time and i don't really think they pick up until you hit atom collider
and it can be hard to remember to PO on every character
that's where idleon efficiency comes into play to make sure you don't forget
i just cant be bothered to farm up all the materials needed to spam boxes. i have so many other things tro do
yeah i'd much rather just have my pens autoconvert
i do my things daily and just wait it out
yeahh (: changed it now
nah, fuck spamming them manually
still not ready for W5 boss? :((( (bubo)
thank you for listing it (: helpfull
not yet
Meanwhile I've gotten 3500 po boxes today manually
ES is the easiest and it needs around 35m max dmg
I still have 4500 pens left to spend
are meals acount bound or charachter?
IM SO STUPID
account
I JUST NOTICED THE FORGE CAPACITY THING IN THE ARCADE
AND SPENT ALL MY GOLD BALLS ON IT
oke nice (:
I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE THE OTHER WAY BETTER ONES
i dunno what can i improve to get more dmg ahhh everything too costly for a 0.02m dmg
forge cap is pretty good for later on
Nah forge capacity is the best one end game
your crit chance looks really really low
what is your main chars level?
249
what armor/weapon are you using?
oh oke 😄
i see. one big thing for me was actually remaking my dementia armor and using w5 stones on it
work on that weapon upgrade 
if you made that armor a while ago and used earlier stones it may make a pretty big difference
ah yea i have w4 stones on these
except the rings
w4 -> w5 stones isn't a huge increase so don't prioritize it if dementia is still a bit costly for you
thats smart yeah i will adjust my armor too
is there a min level required to use the chat in idleon, i made a second acc to hlep me get a stamp that required a char with letter S but when i type on my 2nd acc it does show up on my first acc
You can probably get a chizoar scarf reasonably easy. Those are nice
oh i have a lot keys for chizoar
should i do chaotic for more droprate?
20% damage
dang thats way more cool
Normal is probably better just for the scarf since you get keys back
But you need some chaotic drops for the caustic scarf upgrade
then ill write after 1 hour if i get the scarf xDD
it's not too many chaotic drops thankfully it's pretty cheap
yea i see its 15
how's your cooking looking? your defense and crit chance show signs that it may not be the highest
I don't remember but you may have to get every character to end of W3 to get the recipe though
its from merit i think
so yea
ah yea cooking is kinda weird for me so i just cooked what i liked
you could definitely use a focus on cooking those bonuses are like crazy good if you know what you're doing
if you haven't already devote a blood berserker to simply staying in the kitchen
still farming lvl100 with him :((
yeah it's very neglected. do you have the bubble that gives 1.X cooking speed per meal >=lvl11?
no worries def prioritize it afterwards tho
which one should i focus on?
i think not yet
it also looks like by your spices that you don't have a great breeding setup for spice claiming
cabbage is the early game GOAT
Nah, egg is early game goat, cabbage needs kitchen upgrade levels first 
i mean it depends on what you call early game
cooking snowballs hard so it's kinda hard to feel like cabbage is more midgame
early game is from the time that you start cooking to when you realize you can upgrade your kitchens 
true
yea but i still dont have any lvl 10 meal
i think it's definitely worth pushing those alchemy bubbles and just upgrading alchemy in general
so egg is better i think yet
for sure yeah
once you can start making enough cabbage for decently quick upgrades go for it
because its bonus is absolutely vital to increasing meal speed
breeding can very very quickly become a bottleneck by the way
what you probably want to do is use some guides on good breeding setups for spice claiming and use your eggs to get a good setup for now (from what it looks like using snakes might be your best bet)
i have a lot snakes but breedable
#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message this is a good spice lineup guide
thank you
no worries! also i would definitely recommend maybe a youtube video guide on making your way through the pet arena using your beastmaster to maximize pet damage (their arena talent gives passive pet damage % per level of the talent, alongside their other talent that gives a pet damage multi). unlocking pet slots is the most important part of pushing pet battles
this helped me out a TON
i believe part of this was made before full auto was a thing so when it says use abilities as often as possible you can just turn on auto and afk
using this yea :3
also one thing that i didn't know for the longest is that you can disable specific pets to not be auto. very helpful for making sure borgar is off auto for arena and defender is off auto for the beginning of pet battles
mildly useful since i have refinery and trove now
yeah, but once you turn them off, you can't turn them back on 
tbh with sigils ive pretty much been told not to touch them until im done with alchemy bubbles
for defender, it's better to just turn auto off, manually use it, then go full auto
yeah i was about to bring that up thanks for mentioning it
u mean u get all the bubbles?
yeah im at the start of the w6 bubbles myself but sigils are apptly very endgame things to do
since their base bonuses are... less than desirable for the most part
W6 has a ton of sigil buffs that make them way faster too.
yeah i'm already at like 2.5x sigil speed + the sailing ancient
Haven’t touched my bubo (besides an occasional refill) in a while since CC stops sigil progress

speaking of bubo i recently was trying for the 100k seconds of progress equinox bubble and got 97k 😭
so i actually have a question about raise dead
it doesn't seem to be immediately activating on auto
even though it's first in slot. is it better to just manually do it?
too much talents on attack bar
You have certain skills in ur bar that stop it
Just have CC, raise dead, aura, and flatulent spirit
ok ill take off all that aren't my 2 poison dudes and aura
should i take off the poison that isn't flatulent spirit?
For maps like tremor wurms and citringes yes
If it has a ton of platforms you can leave it on
i was really hopin for a gemshop update. im at almost 15k gems lol
suffering from success
gambled two chips, got a DR and a woodchip
eh theres plenty of stuff i could get. i was just hoping for a new rotation before i did
least that's one less chip I have to swap around
Reroll it to 11% if u haven’t
Lmao I’m dumb
oh also what's the purpose of using the stingers over a wand when using cc
I read gamba and DR and just though obol Gamba
though maybe i should reroll my MK sparkle once I get some frags
because Aura casts around your character, wand range will mean you stand still a lot
stingers (or w6 wand) has shorter range, so your character is forced to move and cast aura in different spots
i see. my aura could def be improved since it's only at 5 auras rn
definitely more of an issue with smaller aura level
slowly but dmg is growing for W5 boss

welcome back! hows the progression goin
what are some ways to get better dmg
alch, stamps, meals, cards and cardsets, po boxes, star signs, dungeon flurbos
Even with construction mastery it takes 11d:07h:37m for my next salt rank up
I guess I have a reasonable amount of salt for now, but that is a long time
Nice
What's this???
the ball? its for the new hoopies game
I'm asking how to use it
I'm guessing it just spawns the hoop blob
And it doesn't allow you to play multiple times in one day
I didn't have the ball when I played the first time
Seems like it pops up randomly as well
it will most likely pop up the first time you login after reset, but if you don't play right away, using the ball will cause him to pop up again
ball is not consumed on use
In terms of levels for Growth Cycle Time, Kitsune Roxie, and Evolution Chance, what is the approximate threshold where it makes more sense to leave Kitsune Roxie on?
Or does it depend on how often you check Gaming and the highest plant tier you have unlocked?
I'd say mostly depends on how often you check, if often, leave it on. I suppose if you're fishing for evolutions, then you should probably leave it on, too
personally i've always kept it on, i'm too lazy to change it
I should probably leave mine on, but 
After a while it becomes such a large boost that it basically always make sense to have turned on
Ah, true, I guess I haven't invested in it
oh, guess I did pump it to 100 after I got to 15 chems
and burned through all my fertilizers
When leveling Kitsune, does the Bit penalty stay the same while the growth speed keeps increasing?
Correct
I see. What level of Kitsune would be the approximate tipping point?
just 1 more 
i'm in the same boat
Same
now it seems like its rigged 
progression is real im coming Kattlekrug sooooon
Hard to say. It is always better if you're claiming often, but when the change over point is I don't know
bruh get that drop rate up
ok
hey gang, just unlinked my character from the god that allows me to be active in the mainframe, however upon going to fill the hole he'd leave in the mainframe he was still active, is this intentional or is this a bug?
nevermind yall im dumb
gah i missed my daily reset so i didnt get to see all my new bubble and food gainz
i didnt miss the day. i just missed seeing the pop
Dopamine loss
exactly
Murdering chiz over and over is tiring.
the new pack is...
if you saw it
no stamps left behind p2w?
oh i already bought it. the moment i saw it
you got all permanant boost packs?
probably
bro spent too much he doesn't even remember
btw what's your Rift # atm
ngl rifts for last bonus is chill but would take me days since I don't get much kills/h
I need help hitting the the 30 seconds for Chaotic kattle
Ignore the task and get back to skilling
I think my skills are okay
Ok is around 70
yea i was gonna say mine are not technically okay. but want 70s+ atleast
Under 50 is mm level
Wait, why are you doing it on vman?
Tho i got my skills to 90 b4 vman was out
my fifth character
The 30 second task is done on only one character.
Either way your skills definitely need work. Especially trapping, it'll hold you back otherwise.
should i level more fishing?
yes buit level mine instead lol
Good luck with 70 cooking 
W1-3
why is the wurm nest constellation so buggy
why are u trying to do it on vman
does the mantis god work with rift portal kills?
Portal kills? If you mean afk rift kills, yes it does
yes afk rift kills
balance the levels
Is mantra broken, I have nine toons on divinity, all have mantra, came back after three hours, each only generated 14xp instead of 27.
!mantra
Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.
In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.
(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)
Love you all thank you
Auto
It's very easy with dk
Ok thx
I'm in physical pain after this
is this a fine enough mk% to start 1m killing for vman?
(on nobi/fibers for more kph active)
I just saw this new gem pack wtf is that lol
yea wish i could afford it rn lolol
Fr
however, the stamps of it giving you +5 to a random stamp
no-stamp-left-behind
How long will it be out?
leaving all my guys afk for way too long in rift worked out lol, all those 5m kill stages 
sneaking is like, so good now too
up to the last stage for sneak mastery
yeah lmao im at 0% all on last floor with flower/rosary
was like 40% before with double lotus mules
im pretty much rushing to the last floor rn
eventually ill have to do rift pushing but my damage lacking. havent done zow/chow for rift yet
shame the killroy thing gives me 0 dmg lol
also from that pack you get 1 gold stopwatch
per day??
one time
oh
per day would be op lol
no-rift-left-behind
9/10 for my DK
How did u get all 9 slots to succeed 🥹
Sacrifice your first born to lava
Nightmare cattlecruk is the 3rd Tier right?
i made one for my bubo and got all succeed
Yes. It goes normal, then chaotic, then nightmare.
is there an updated spice setup guide somewhere
For gathering spice? Just continue with burger, forager, miasma converter except for last one where the forager can be replaced by a bunny (don't remember what the type is called)
(With rock to be clear)
Is this worth it to try for logbook evo 6?
You probably will have to replace some pets to get fighting power if your lvl isn't very high
I'd wait into the M's or B's
we gettin ther...sorta
Oo what is this turkey? I plan to get it sooner because the sail gonna be 4-3hours 
The first meal in cooking
Ooo i already have like 1m~2m then i should get it right?
the snakes in w1 lol
sneaking mastery is fun tho
just unlocked it and i got kicked all the way back down 
Is it a prestige of sorts?
i called it weeks ago somethin with prestige and sneaking
rates are better then pre-mastery ones too which is nice
anyway time to superchow rift
i just learned you cant candy in there 😦
Should i get it? Or just do my fourth island?
how long is a trip ^
You want them all at some point. 90% cooking speed is nice.
no multikill anymore 
divine tooth necklace via normal or chaotic or nightmare?
I did them in nightmare so i can get the wings at the same time.
ahh
but arent u supposed to wear the divine scarf while u farm the wing?
for the trophy i mean
whats a good cc map before worms
How do you guys know when you have finished super chow the rift?
new nugget.. slowly getting there
can u sample wooden circular on vman speedrun?
no, dont think its first drop for anything
woah finally second ancient 
whats the best way to increase money making im just starting to get starfire should i just forget about bribes for now and focus on other things
i think this Lab Bonus is really powerful
is it worth farming green mush at 350k kills an hour
ok after i do this afk rift ill do that thanks
Is there a way to reset star signs? I foolishly unlocked all Chronus star signs before I realised Hydron is unlocked and probably was ages ago. I have heard there is not enough star points to unlock everything
there is plenty of star signs for everything now
its been a very long time since there wasnt enough star signs
so your source is very outdated
brilliant, so I just have to be patient and unlock them all. thanks
999 star sign points to unlock C1 when 
Its very powerful 
Reached a huge amount of money multiplier in like a few days of just abandonning my archers to the gmushs instead of the lab
man
I need to get a better refiller or borger, they were only like 10k instead of the 14k of both my rattler and monolithic
You should stop autocasting borger at least. Your refiller is being wasted on it.
I never saw the use of mono in arena, just manually shield.
Wait refiller only refills one thing? Fuck
Also, Mono helps me stack rattler bonuses
It hits a random, open one
Considering that in a few hours I'll 4* genie card and get a +30% to card bonus, what do I need to work on to finally maximize my crystal spawn rate? (I already have choco card chip)
what dmg should i have when i get to W5?
it doesn't really matter what damage you should have, if you already reached w5
You mean choço chip?
yeah I'm stoopid
Its all right
and im at molties
To get higher afk gains but active I dunno
Pretty sure you're way too low for Moltis
yea
Like, ~5M too low
Alchemy, stamps, gear...
and alchemy yea
Alchemy, too, is important, as well as alchemy
Not to mention cards, star signs, and more importantly, alchemy
ye
Every source has its own thing just look for it like stamps theres a alchemy thing that gaves base damage for speed char if am correct can get to high thing and easy to farm coconut
i wont be able to beat kattlekruk with this damage
iirc it's recommended to have 50M for kattle
ye
Yeah mate
mmmmm
Youre new to w5 or not
im at molties
and gaming too
Yeah i was about to say that lol
i know gaming sailing and divinity
Yeah but how far along are you? How many artefacts? Did you buy the MSA for the worship thing?
Nice i guess its middle not to far not to beginner
ye
Did you get ancient triangle artefact thing? Because it boosts damage something fierce, provided you've gathered enough items in slab
no and i have only 3 artefacts, im trying to get more
i have only 2 boats ill try to get more gold
to upg them and buy more
i got only 3 islands unlocked
i did
i got almost 800 items found at slab
Only farm the first or second island until you have like 4 boats, then start diversifying (imo)
You want to only take 2 hours in between trips
i wanted this
You don't have enough boats right now to focus on artefacts, especially if it takes longer than 2 hours
get some more sailing chest storage space, buy boats, upgrade them, and THEN you can farm artefacts
ye
Also, don't sleep on divinity, it's the path to having a full lab 24/7
Also², don't sleep on gaming because even if it looks self-contained it has a lot of great bonuses to every parts of the game, even if it's boring
ye
sadly at divinity i got only till the bear
i always do the 1% one
now i gotta get insect
if you already have the bear you already have the most important rn, next thing you'll want is to get a ton of multipliers to your divinity points and it'll come with sailing
so i should put the bear on all and the go to lab
Nah, not if you can't unlock everything, and if their lab level is bad you'll want them inside the lab anyway
k
But if you can reach the most important nodes/jewels and it'd take 7 characters in your lab, or 8, or 9, or 10, you can remove those that already have high lab levels/need to do something else, slap the bear on them, and send them farm something else
Does multikill affect crystal mob drops?
Nope
so drop rate prayer with increased mob hp is better if i can 1 hit kill everything?
Yes
Perfect, thanks! 😄
Or kill them pretty fast
How do i second link as es
cloudsave
You just put one point into the skill, and it'll tell you "linked to X", and every points you put in switch to the next god. If you didn't unlock the god, it just gives you the skill's passive bonus and none of the god
iirc it's one point for the bear, then another one for the insect, etc
are you in w6💀
if so that’s a bit depressing if not thats great👍
also tbf mine is level 340 so pretty weak for my level
Shiny bored beanie?
Oh what's that for
It's a pretty bad hat, recipe from domeo magmus
Nvm, big dumb here. It's coldseeker bullets, weapon power food
Ahh okok
its just more slab junkie food
w5 :/
what class
Saving...
After doing somemore testing I have found that even when I up my artifact find chance from 30.3 to 38.1 I am still not getting an increase to find. This all started when I hatched the shiny pets for artifact find chance. I am not sure it is a bug but, I have stopped getting artifacts.
I just did
Elemental sorc
epic.
yeah, gonna do that
This is relative. need to know what island you are going for, your current odds, etc. just because your find chance went up (while its big relative to your original chance, realize that people have like several k times worth find chance) doesn't mean its automatically easier to find artifacts
need 3 more jade upgrades and i can get Sovereign Artifacts, so i can possibly rush to it maybe...
are you using multikill prayer
Im not
show stats + gear?
Crystal monsters are melting me atm
try health potions?
if you are playing min acc and low damage, this is jsut the norm. walk out and back in
this is the risk of playing active afk
I can't add screenshots for some reason.
whats the best captains for going for sovereign artifacts? is speed n loot still good
Yeah im using it
you just need more max hp
idk how your hp so low then? can you show food tab
I don't think my food scaling is that high idk
Snowy South is the island and 40.58 is my current artifact find chance. I am getting 0.01 to 0.02 right now with each chest.
Not enough points atm
reset and put some lol, whats your talent build?
also use more hp potions, replac the mp and the healing food
so 0.01 is lowest displayed chance but it doesn't mean your minimum find chance is 0.01, it can be much lower --> so increasing smoetin below threshold might not make it go past 0.01. does that make sense?
why do you have 5 pts in linked god?
Remove the points in wis in page 1 and for agi i'd say only enough accuracy that you need
also wtf is this lol
The artifacts found in Stormy North with a artifact find chance of 30 were 1.2 to 2.3 per chest. Only when I hatched the shiny artifact find chance pets did it tank.
Uhh not yet j need 10
Not enough points in tabs
dont put any points in it then lol
you don't have omniphau unlocked
Why?
dont make half-arsed builds lol
this is wasted points
if your activing focus on that
11 is for 1st god
yeah but you ahve 5 points in it
also lvl 131 class level is super low for w5 lol
5 = omniphau
Can you guys wait 30 mins so i get home
sure
It was lvl 80
you on your phone?
Yeah, commuting atm
hmm ok that is something i don't know then
Just wait like 30 mins so i get home and i dont have to change tabs every 10 seconds
yeah phone is pain
you didn't discover all of the current level and odds just dropped cause you are now searching for next rarity, correct?
I am wondering if other working on the same sov artifacts have higher chances or is it just me.
about 5 days ago I baught the sov upgrade and with in 20 hours had unlocked all the current artifacts I have. Then I switched out my shinny pets to level for the artifact find chance pets and it tanked. I added the star sign and yesterday the killroy bonus to artifact find chance and still no change.
is it just 0.01?
no so the drop is cause you are goign for sovereign now, not cause you got shiny pets
sovereign are all like 0.01 find chance
I did all the first islands with 1.2-2.3 chance then I added the shiny because I knew it would get harder but it got much worse so fast I haven't gotten an artifact in 4 days.
they drop like crazy
I was at 0.01 with 170x arti chance lol
ah ok so it isn't just me. Ok glad I am not crazy
So it will take me months to get all Sov artifacts.
you just need the other jade emporeium bonuses
I am saving for them now.
with sneaking mastery out now you can probably finish sov in 1 month or less from now
Yes I am already working on the tower a second time.
what island are you working on now?
Im just trying to sov the last island now, 2/4
Still have to do all the ones between toxic island and it though, excluding fury
but shouldn't be too hard i think. I'm at 0.02% on the last island
I'm working on Eldritch Socrates, and it feels like it's taken longer than the preceding 10 Eldritches combined; can't wait to go for Sovereign Socrates
Let alone the Lanterns
When should you max out the cauldron bonuses (speed, x2, luck etc.)?
before getting all the bubbles, ideally 
Does the Orb of Rememberance still need to be a specific level to function properly? Or was that changed in the code optimization patch?
Is there a trick to pong controller in terms of getting high score? Averaged around 3k rn, not sure if I'm just bad, on a laggy server, or not doing osmething I should be xd
Feels good to do CC while 5 of my chars are grinding the last few rifts
Been a long time without cc
Nice
how can i link my es to second god
there is a talent that gives you a god on certain levels
those are all my gods whatr would u do ive planned to wait for the goat to get div and lab xp
depends what you need
rn im rly new to w5
ppl toild me to unlock the goat and then put it on everyone apart of the pusher
if you are pushing then use the bug for more portal kills, if you need prints do the bunny, etc etc
bug?
I usually run Hare all the time bcs I had decent amount in Skilling
Snake > Bear > Insect > Hare > etc
so the goat isnt necessary? i thought it would be rlly good for begin cause u get div xp and lab
It means the order u will unlock god
Depend
If u really have to do combat with ES, then Hare + Nobisect/Artic
rn i put everyone on bear and one on insect
and how do i get the second god on es do i need to just link?
if you are putting people in lab, then yes goat
My ES was meant to do Rift which is why u see insect
but otherwise its not useful
rn imunder harriep i do not have imniphaut
no but i still loose level if i stay there
do u want to spend talent reset potion?
If no, stand on there, simple
Otherwise how are u gonna fix ur second link 😛
yea trrue
rn im at lvl 0 and i dont get the pints back
ah now can i spend more points to get mote div points?
!speedrun
check #1084911530417606656
How can I reduce lag? It's so bad every time I play pong console. Even though I'm in dementia ore map on a server that had no one on it..
Late reply, but you just focus on what the last digit you want it to be. 2 is for Nobisect, 3 is for Hare.
Although it does not matter much in early game bcs u need talent points for Sampling logs or combat.
Them's the brakes, unfortunately 😦
Just got to world 5, what should I focus on? I have div going rn and having a few chars catch up form world 4
Otherwise, get a direct fiber link to whichever data center is hosting your Idleon server
The Intermediate Idleon Guide has more information and is better written than I can direct.
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1183482341474172938
clutch, thank you
📌 also has a starting div guide
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
yay 
Gg
lvl 185 gaming i finally got the chemical mutation!!
damn, that's rough. ggs
resampled, also 1b oak log sample 
should I active or afk suggma recipe?
Why cant i get this ? i got the others in only 1 day
rng
I thought the higher artifact was also a lower chance?
Sacrifice a goat to RNGesus. Or a Pegacorn.
It's almost always the right one that last upgrades for me
You got an ancient before you got the last artifact, that's crazy lol
Take luck classes
they teach those
whats the most efficient way to distribute your boats? for sailing, one on each island? all on one for new artifacts or the trader?
I tend to go for one island at a time. Send all my boats there like it's Normandy
Same, I hate how it looks when I separate boats in different islands
Active is better but it's torture to sit there for hours
when you say hours, you mean months right?
Hours upon hours, is what I meant
The Best for choping is Shaman or Wizzrd?
I know, was just joking. Thanks for the answer. I will maybe farm with my ES after I am done with my current round of alchemy optimizations
there's an ES talent that scales on god rank
You can keep offering for god ranks. It doesn’t have a whole lot of use until the final upgrade from the jade emporium
Sigh, burned a bunch of candy trying to get lucky lad on vman today, no,, luck though
ok thank you
gdi, messed up the oranges and leveled it one too high for a nice picture
kk thx u
whats the best way to stockpile luckylads for a luckierlad?
just chuck them on vman and lock or do you guys usually keep em in storage
ok ill try it
I have about 30 on my second dk, who's afk fighting, with a similar amount in storage, i'll be putting the rest in storage til i reach 75
damn thats such a large amount of storage space
Stockpile them on characters, you have like ~600+ slots across all characters. luckier lad only 75.
The only reason i'm not doing that is i don't feel like collecting them all again. But it's probably best
ive got about 10 trophies atm that were in storage, but since im still pretty far away ill just move my bank to sitting on vman until I'm close to being finished
storage is only good for stackables

man, died on 119 goblin TD twice 
Well, at least you can recoup losses via tickets and giant crystals
so for sailing, that 6.65k is translated into how much Travel dist?
Depends on your minimum time i guess. What is it?
for island 1 this
Just checked my own. That is the furthest distance at which you can be the fastest you can be.
You can go to an island 6.65k away or 25 away and be the same speed
RIP, IM MISSING 4 OF THE STARTER HATS AND I ALREADY AHVE ALL 10 CHARACTERS
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Most of, if not all of them drop from enemies.
so anything past 25m away will be slower
anything past 6.65k
grey beret, traffic cone, propeller cap, baseball hat
i gotcha
how do i get all of the slab bonuses
would be nice if lava allowed us to buy the items we are missing with gems but we dont get to keep the items, or its just a 'invalid' version but still counts for slaps
itd only be for the ones that arent obtainable anymore
and it doesnt have to cost alot, like 10-20 gems
I'm unlocking sovereign artifacts soon but 3 of them still aren't eldritch
what stats and equipment do i need to start grinding w5
Is the best way for vman lucky lad still just candy at mining?
it's time 
Is there any specific stats or really anything good will work
assuming you've gotten your Div started to at least Arctis unlocked, you'll want to aim for 30-80m damage (for ES/DK > other > BB/Vman) to defeat w5 boss
K
lul, oops
just one, was on my BM doing TD then figured I coudl go make tab 6 anvil to see what I needed
did I beat acecow to marble chopping bag???
Oh wait maybe I'm better than you I don't know I always thought you were better than me
It happens a lot here
account progress is so different between people
And depending on how much you read in the discord
I just got pickle like 3 days ago so maybe I'm like barely ahead
How tf am I still bandit bob 4???
I've been in here for like 3 hours of everyday for2 months
u aren't yapping enough
fr tho most of the "questions" in here are just "so basically when I was at work the other day"
oh bb
Is ES good to active farm mob cards?
nah, most of the questions here are "how much damage do i need to w5 boss"
nvm you are probably better than me
I'm not even at eldritch yet smh
I don't even have regular fury😂
oh lawds, pray to rngesus
he not helping me 20hrs per boat to the island for a 3%
ah, yeah, think all my boats except last three can get minimum travel on fury island 
14 vman prints today 
thats great, until you've entered hourly clicking, then it feels like a pain
just 10m afk kills between me and construction mastery 
Is this new pack super op or am i missing something lmao
its really good
Im assuming it works like NBLB where it levels up the lowest leveled one?
seems to add like +5 to 2 diff NBLB bubbles
atleast that was my experiance on day 1
yeah, gives +5 to the two lowest bubbles, if you're under the current cap of 10, it adds additional bubbles. if you're at the cap of 10, then it upgrades 2 of them with an extra +5
gdi, meant to claim pet yesterday and forgot to
i jut got vman and was wondering how the left hand enhancement works, does my vman need to be highest lvl in the skill to get the effect or is it just free exp for him all the time
pretty sure you need to be highest
Vman just gets it, doubled
not bad
Guys whats the strat for getting chemical plant ? Wait till a certain % to try and unlock it ?
is this random or does it apply to the lowest level stamp/food just like how the bubble do
stamp is random, meal is lowest like current nmlb, and bubbles is +5 to two nblb bubbles
roll as often as possible. i would clear my board, roll and pray 
Its been 2 month and im just loosing hope
someone just posted earlier today that they just hit 181 gaming and finally got it 🙃
does loot pile for sailing cap at 20
because it was 20 before i got eld dream catcher and still 20 after
Dream catcher is weird af, Loot pile goes up to 30 with gem purchases, sov dreamcatcher doesnt give its +2 either
any chance you have 2 loot pile from gem shop already?
i was at 27 before and after getting eldritch dreamcatcher 
yea, theres no fucking sense to dreamcatcher 
i was just curious, im trying to figure out where it caps
It's not that its talent level
ooo +25 to what you currently have ok i get it
wait, where do u get nmlb, i didnt know that existed
i have like 4 rift slugs
Jade emporium world 6
whats nmlb stand for
no meal left behind
kinda like the "no child left behind" act but instead of for schools, it's for idleon food
idk if that was an intentional reference or not
Should I use ES of DK to farm Kruk tooth? I need 250 more of them. Whichever has higher drop rate?
Vman since it has dr skills
it will take forever to do that. He's too weak 😛
Thinking of doing the nightmare boss
Ah in that case make sure to have done the quest outside kruk until the last step as you need to get the kruk cape on that chaaracter
Just check the Dr stat in the side bar for the best drops otherwise. Orb won't help on kruk
Yeah. ES then. My ES has around 20% more dmg and similar DR
wow. thanks! I just looked up the wiki. The trophy will be a huge gain. 42% drop chance
Is it even worth keeping es worship lower than vman? I just realised the skill efficiency increase is so tiny
69.2m to 70.9 m
That's barely anything for the amount of effort
Am I tripping shouldn't it increase more than that?
Weird. Removing it took my 199m to 196m. I guess it conflicts with an ES talent.
I remember it used to be way more
I thought so too
Crazy OP, if you choose to spend money, yes.
Quick question. What’s the math behind this? I only ever did like 174M max and I was on my DR card set
crit dmg?
It's not actually that much effort if you know how to level Worship efficiently.
On VMan, put skill XP as high as possible, use Maestro transfusion, use something like IdleOn Efficiency to find your highest XP per charge, and assign VMan to that specific soul.
With ES, maximize efficiency, which will drop XP rate along the way.
I personally have found it straightforward to keep VMan's XP rate so much higher than ES that there's no issue with ES outleveling VMan for the sake of soul farming
Yes. But my vman can't keep up
Ya bc like I’ve never even broken 200M yet suddenly I throw a boomerang and do 1000M out of no where on my DR card set.
It was 5 lvls above my ES now my ES is 2 lvls above my vman
What are your XP multipliers for VMan and ES?
i got two gods with the 1 percent olive branch two times in a row lmao
I was thinking of using my other ES just to make sure the lvl stays below but I realised the difference is so tiny that the effort doesn't matter
I forgot, but I used transfusion + prayers and for ES I removed the skill exp talent
In any case, your XP gains can vary depending on which souls you're farming on each
Yes... I know
I was trying to farm the soul that was ironically the one that gave the most xp
So that's why my es surpassed my vman
It's true that it's not the biggest deal.
Though, I personally keep my VMan at the highest level on skills that count toward Hands and Skillage Damage.
After all, I won't get unstuck on NM Kattle by skimping on VMan damage
It counts crit and all
IK
But like it just doesn’t add up
Sometimes I try to do math in this game. I usually regret it. Do you have mega crit? That gives a ton of damage
You wouldn't be able to get mega crits so that's not the reason
It was most likely a Megacrit using the Yellow Lightning Talent from your ES.
Big damage.
critting with lightning barrage usually means huge dmg
His crit chance is 37, no megacrit
Crit then.
Also, don't know the crit chance on the ES. Though it would be odd if it were +100%, so kinda moot.
Yipe, i keep progressing fast the moment i fix everything :3
Now i can buy kitsune in 5-6hours later :3
Nope it was on my DK using a boomerang
I saw it myself
Oh you saw the damage tick? Dunno then. Guess you stronk
I guess I am.
I was fighting Chaotic troll too
You did factor in the damage buff you get from Boomerang talent yeah?
It took longer than I’d like to admit
Well. That's probably like x3-4 of your sheet damage
Even when I use my boomerang tho it only does like 174-78M
do i keep my BM on magma, divine or marbi legplates?
I was just so shocked to see 1000M on a boomerang toss
And it was only at the end of the damn boss fight 
I like Divine for the mob respawn


