lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[quiet pewter]

weapon power is weak, it used to be OP but it got changed a while back

[lethal aspen]

get vman 100%

[quiet pewter]

vman tab4 is so good

[sharp mauve]

Unlocking Nobisect could be useful

[lethal aspen]

altho if you struggle to get 1m deathnote kills in w3

idk what your doing in w5

[lavish cypress]

thank you 🙂 its no struggle I just wonder how much chars should I put to focus on it, its 3-5 hours on each map

[lethal aspen]

just stick your blood berzerker doing it

you should already for chow stacks

[quiet pewter]

sound like a good thing to just rush out then. and yeah multitasking bb is a good move like kanna says

[lavish cypress]

so only BB or all chars and neglect divinity for now

[lethal aspen]

neglect div, what god are you up to?

[lavish cypress]

the insect one

[lethal aspen]

it should only take you a day or 2 max i'd think

👍 use the insect to do it twice as fast too if u want lol

but then your lab gonna go poop unless your dooted

[lavish cypress]

no doot 😦

[lethal aspen]

well anyway u can skip out on div for a few days for vman. his just that good

just make sure your lab still connected

[lavish cypress]

gotcha thanks alot 🙂

[gentle charm]

How much damage have u guys killed nightmare kruk with as vman?

[lethal aspen]

120t

[viral python]

crazy

[gentle charm]

Oh cause I need to do the task I don't want to be there for 1h xD

[lethal aspen]

he has 1q health

[gentle charm]

Yeah gg 100t

[viral python]

puts my dmg to shame

[lethal aspen]

is ok just go at your own pace. w6 gives you tons of dmg once u get there

[gentle charm]

Yeah the emperor multi damage card gave me good damage

[lethal aspen]

even if you dont spend gems on the card packs

w6 boss soon tm

probably late jul/early aug i'd guess

[viral python]

thats what im trying to get to

[lethal aspen]

want some tips? Post your ie / toolbox link

[viral python]

but im in need of like 70m dmg

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=dgbgbcb

does that work?

[lethal aspen]

doesn't seem to work for me 😦

did you upload it recently? maybe takes some time

[gentle charm]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=fakebalmung

Me to please

[viral python]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=dgbgbcb

i just uploaded it

[lethal aspen]

your trying to get vman dmg right?

[still apex]

Go to the data page and copy the link

[gentle charm]

Yeah vman, refinery is cooking to get the new weapon else I don't know

[viral python]

is that not the link?

[still apex]

No

The data menu has the proper link

[lethal aspen]

[quiet pewter]

lot of locked vials. fill your char inventory with lots of the item, 1 stacks is fine. drop them really fast using shift click. the game will roll on all of them.

[gentle charm]

Oh smokes

[viral python]

what you mean? it shows that link there other then that no other links

[gentle charm]

I forgot about that

[lethal aspen]

book it and max it

[viral python]

bro i try but i aint getting lucky

[still apex]

Hmm, that may be something on my end

[quiet pewter]

are you dong the method i dscribed? becuase it pretty much takes luck out of it, you get so many rolls

[viral python]

i did for one but idk ill try tmr

[gentle charm]

Got it to 211 and omg it went up for like idk alot

Thanks :widepeepohappy:

[sharp mauve]

Everytime someone shows up ie or it. 🤔

[gentle charm]

Yeah I've been currently to much focusing on other characters that I don't really minded vman, I know it's important to get it up

[lavish cypress]

hey guys. im mid W5 and unlocking vman, it will take me a day or two, after that should I prioritize my BB on chows or keep him on altar for doing the divinity/lab grind with all the other chars?

[sharp mauve]

sounds like goat grind.

when u reached a better base stats on everything, BB will be much more efficient

[quiet shoal]

What should i take from the merit ?

[sharp mauve]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[gentle hamlet]

hey any reason this is updating?

been open closing switch characters for 5 minutes

[bronze cosmos]

OOH just unlocked Chemical Plants off of a 0.2% Chance this was significantly Faster than Evergreen off of 1-2% chances

[gentle hamlet]

Update: I also hod the 5 mil oranges to complete and that instantly popper

popped

oh wait i see my problem

LOL 1 extra 0 there

When in doubt its always me in the wrong

[bronze cosmos]

using a but of Gaming Fertilizer I saved for an Initial attempt to get Log Entries. What is that Chance going towards unlocking?

73 -> 0.1% chance to unlock a new plant but I have all Plant Mutations from the looks of it

[muted scroll]

yes

[lethal aspen]

it doesnt do anything, cant press

[muted scroll]

^

[bronze cosmos]

Oh

So it's a "in case a new plant ever gets added" type of deal?

[ebon haven]

Does TranQi work whilst active afk?

[bronze cosmos]

Btw I've been running Gaming without Roxie, i feel like It's time to start running with Roxie, to try to not only get new Log Entries, but also to see how much I can get out of Chemical Plants.

[lethal aspen]

no only when u claim

also insert active afk rant

[bronze cosmos]

58.1min Growth Cycle without Roxie, 13.7min with Roxie, and I can Upgeade Roxie a bit

[ebon haven]

Thought that would be the case, thanks

[ebon haven]

Not a fan of active afk?

[lethal aspen]

nah not me personally

i remember peepo being super triggered by the phrase

[copper obsidian]

Is rolling 0.1% chance for chem the best way to do it?

[worn karma]

i thought it was 0.5

[finite nimbus]

is there a better place to farm time for shines and eggs with bm other than oj bay?

[still apex]

Purely for breeding progress, i don't believe so.
I would say tremor wurms for their higher density, but citringes just seem simpler in a way.

[glad crow]

[finite nimbus]

ok thx. will do some tests then

[glad crow]

[gentle charm]

Thank you for reminding me

[viral python]

good or bad

cause idk how yous get those bargain tags for the prices

[glad crow]

let me put it like this..... the sight of this has ruined my whole day

[viral python]

and they too expensice

[glad crow]

but worth it

[viral python]

expensive

[viral python]

yes but like also one of my highest stamps rn :/

[gentle charm]

I got a Guilded stamp so did it now to 180

Nvm that's a other stamp

Or did I looked at the wrong image I'm confused

[zinc torrent]

when 1 boat got ancient, and 9 boats on fury still nothing

[viral python]

better?

ran out of inv room

[glad crow]

yes, 100 is better than 70, but its still not enough

[viral python]

well i dont have anvil 100 so carry capacity is bad

[glad crow]

when it begins costing more than 80, that is where the cost reductions comes into play

[viral python]

since it drops it down even further

[viral python]

how do you get cost reductions for stamps

[glad crow]

rift and atom collider

[viral python]

rift what tier?

[teal inlet]

is the teleport talent of a mage ever useful

[viral python]

when you have points to waste sure

[sharp mauve]

If you feel like clicking it without spending a Map Teleport, yes.

[gentle charm]

LETSGOOOOO

I DID IT

[viral python]

wish i was goat like you

cant even beat normal one :/

[gentle charm]

well i did beat him with this damage

[viral python]

yeah still way over my dmg

way way way way over my dmg

am so struggling

[gentle charm]

u´ll get there, i promise you. as long as u do ur best, farm and keep putting focusing on alchemy and damage perks u´ll be good

[viral python]

yeah just changed all traps to frogs

[viral python]

do i focus on printing for salts or bubbles cause i cant keep up doing both

[gentle charm]

focus on ur skilling and damage bubbles, u can farm probaly some stuff forsalt

the higher skilling print is the better the prints

[gentle charm]

Also I forgot, there is a auto review tool that would help

[cyan pulsar]

I got the second divinity yesterday on my phone but it didnt register 😭

[rancid zephyr]

r they finally gonna buff gaming

[atomic onyx]

The way to buff gaming is to remove it altogether

[thorn kindle]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53684585284_52ceac27dd_o.png this is life now.

[tough osprey]

YAll why does my dude stop untieing people and go sneaking then just gets knocked.... why wont he just stay untieing

[thorn kindle]

if they have a kunai on they do not sneak, they only untie

[junior dune]

They are probably just walking back to the tied up guy. Also it only matters what they have equipped when the bar is full. That means that you can move the kunai to the character that will do an action next for much faster untying

[sly cedar]

anyone for HH?

[tough osprey]

he does have one

[sly cedar]

its just animation, when you open it up they might not be standing next to the person tied up, but when their next action comes, they will take points off the tied person's bar.
and you can still be knocked out when untying, the chance is exactly the same

[hushed shell]

How does the shiny snitch prayer work, does it only matter if the person who collects it has it activated or the person who's trap you are collecting?

Like for example lets say b has the trap placed and a is collecting it, does b need to have the prayer or does a need it?

[sly cedar]

in most cases A is the one who's shiny chance matters. Not 100% sure that it is the same with shiny snitch but i would say it is the collector that matters, most likely

[hushed shell]

So I should be collecting my traps with my hunter?

[sly cedar]

yeah

when you collect traps, it lays down new ones with the collector's stats, so best to use hunter/bm for collecting traps anyway.
with the exception of maestro, vman who should use natural traps and collect his own imo

[junior dune]

I don't think that is true. The efficiency/xp stats should only matter when actually placing the traps. Otherwise I wouldn't get nearly as many critters when using bm on fighting preset.

Only shiny chance, prayer and eagle eye lvl should matter when collecting

Still collecting on bm is probably a good idea for higher shiny chance but that may not matter if you have high enough already

[sly cedar]

yeah, well, if you are collecting and then placing seperately.
but usually i set one type of trap and then just collect all multipe times

so when you collect all, it replaces the traps using your stats

which is why i just always collect with bm

[junior dune]

I'm quite certain that you are just wrong here. Collect all isn't the same as replacing the traps

[sly cedar]

really?

[junior dune]

You can test it, but in my experience yeah, I'm not getting different gains and just collect with what's convenient

[hushed shell]

What is bm?

[junior dune]

Except when going for rare shinies

[junior dune]

Beast master the hunter elite class

[hushed shell]

ah

[junior arrow]

no it lays the traps down with the same stats as the previous traps were, it doesnt matter what your new stats are

but yes collecting traps on BM is still the right thing, as they get more critters and xp, once their talents go above max level

[sly cedar]

ok, good to know, thanks

does shiny snitch work with no more prayers?

like it just multiplies your shinies by 4 or more with no loss of chance?

[junior dune]

Reflective Eyesight should be the only thing that makes bm better to collect on since the drone uses the eagle eye lvl of your bm for other characters as well

[junior dune]

I don't think so since I saw a person in W6 chat which should have had it complaining about just getting 1 shiny per trap

[sly cedar]

lame

[junior dune]

No more prayers is apparently quite buggy though and I've heard it stops working at times so not 100% certain. I never use it

Like you will always want the sample rate one at least

Probably either balance of pain or skilled dimwit as well

[junior arrow]

no idea, that no more prayers bonus is a trap and should be ignored

first it doesnt spawn giants so that alone makes it never worth using, and second, why give up 80% of your good prayers, to recieve 20% of the shit prayers

looking at the numbers it just doesnt make sense

[hushed shell]

What's the best way to get time candy? I really need some

[sly cedar]

crystal island and giant mobs, minibosses, coliseum

[drifting coyote]

Hmm... probably just doing your minibosses

[kindred dagger]

Does anyone know which section the picture with the list of stuff you do if you have Doot is?

[drifting coyote]

Btw is there a weekly cap to the crystals? i.e. should I make an active effort to do it on my weeklies? I usually refrain because it takes more than 10 minutes to kill them all

[cyan pulsar]

what is the best way to increase fishing efficiency?

[drifting coyote]

Skelefish stamp for sure - it scales very good later on

[sly cedar]

they respawn every day, i think it will hold up to 3 days worth and then theyre wasted because it wont spawn more

[drifting coyote]

Ah. Thanks for the info, I'll make it a daily task

[cyan pulsar]

thanks

[sly cedar]

when you get more damage you can kill them fast. i usually do them every day or every 2nd day

[drifting coyote]

It does get extremely expensive though - I'd try to get Crash Box and Gold Twine

[sly cedar]

i remember when i first went there. BB is very slow to kill them it used to take me 20 minutes

[drifting coyote]

I'd send my DK to there for the orb DR

[sly cedar]

that wont make much difference because your orb dr gets cleared when you change maps

but at least dk can kill them fast

[cyan pulsar]

oh damn crash box is rare

[drifting coyote]

Yeah, just turn on the orb, auto on, and you'll get like a few points of fake droprate. Will add up over time to be a few extra kills

[cyan pulsar]

Dr orb?

oh drop rate orb

[drifting coyote]

It's feasible to obtain - it's a nice bonus getting note and chows

[cyan pulsar]

Yeah ig

[hushed shell]

Is there a "best" way to farm crystal mobs? And is there a cap on how many you can spawn daily or do they start getting more rare every time you kill them like when you kill giant mobs?

[sly cedar]

no cap and no decreasing rarity.
just getting high crystal spawn chance on a map/char you can get fast kills.
chocolate chip helps a lot, a lot of people dont really bother crystal farming until they have it

[drifting coyote]

Usually, it's DK on certain maps per world (frogs for w1)

[pale crag]

Beans for w1

With dk

[pale crag]

Crystal spawn chance can be increased so that the crystals spawns like 1/32

[junior dune]

If you don't have the chocolate chip it may not be worth bothering with crystal farming for a while

You will probably have to do gem gamble to get it.

Obvious promotion for my proposal: https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1215229284344528906

[hushed shell]

Hmmm I see

I'm just trying to get some time candy fast because I'm really slacking on every character besides my main character

[junior dune]

Oh crystal island spawns a few each day and it caps after a week iirc

I usually just do it after my weekly reset

[hushed shell]

My main is level 236 while all my other characters are below level 100 and they don't have their elite class yet

[hushed shell]

It's 3 days

[junior dune]

Haven't done it for a good while and have 15 mobs. 3 mobs spawn a day so I think it's 5 days

[hushed shell]

Hmmm interesting

I've seen a bunch of people say 3 days

[bleak shore]

do those crystal mobs health base off what ur dmg is or wht bc them mf take like 30m to kill

[sly cedar]

nah when you get stronger it gets a lot faster

i can 2 shot them now

[hushed shell]

I used to be able to one shot them, then I leveled up a bunch and now it takes me a while

I saw someone say their health is based on your highest character level but not sure if that's how it works

[sharp mauve]

Isn't it based on the world you progressed?

[pliant ferry]

I have my toolbox set to remind me on day 2, that way I can be lazy and have a spare day. A lot better than trying to do that place daily

[gentle furnace]

a week

[junior dune]

Citation needed given the above uncertainty

[wanton locust]

is there an optimal trapping guide

like what type of trap on what pet

[junior dune]

IE auto review has a nice list of best trap rates

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

What is best doesn't change for different critters

[gentle furnace]

we're halfway there

[junior dune]

Shiny rate is usually not important since you only can get 1 shiny per trap without the prayer and it is often maxed out anyways

[scarlet saddle]

what they mean by "kattlekruk cape?"

i think i have one, but it isnt name as that and it dosnt count 😦

[junior dune]

You need to get the cape to drop on that character for it to count

Yeah it sucks

[scarlet saddle]

lol, i drop 2x without being able to do the quest now it dosnt count :))

[balmy thorn]

For sailing, is it better the get every thing to Eldridge before going for jade? is there a hidden multiplier? Above is current progress

[jolly talon]

not really an order, so focus one important ones

[tidal ice]

You will be unable to get sovereigns quickly anyway if you don't have turtle vial

[tough osprey]

how tf do i upgrade tehm............ do i just keep going to the same island over and over till i get 100 of the same artifact or something

[jolly talon]

cant get same artifact

[hexed raft]

if i have doot do i get the minor link bonuses on all characters ?

[jolly talon]

its just increasingly rarer to get the higher rarity one

[hexed raft]

so like harriep do i get +100% coins for all characters x10 ?

[rapid shale]

each character will get that bonus once (unless it says ALL)

[hexed raft]

thx alot !

[tidal ice]

Link to purrmep on your highest divinity character it's the only one that doesn't work with doot

[tough osprey]

sooo like if i get teh lvl 1 basic aritfact i have to go back to the island and find like the lvl version of it?

[rapid shale]

forgot that one said all, you should get a bunch of extra coins, my b

[jolly talon]

yeah

[hexed raft]

tbf both could of been true

ty tho !

[tough osprey]

ohhh ok

[jolly talon]

though you can only get the gold (second lvl) until you get the rift bonus

[gentle furnace]

There's no levels in artifacts only normal>ancient>eldritch>sovereign

[rapid shale]

you can see in toolbox that u get the full bonus

[tough osprey]

oh i such at rift soooo rip XD

[wheat berry]

[tough osprey]

do i want DV or Mistro or BO for rift?

[tired drum]

How much damage do I need to kill kattlekruk?

[warm pike]

Like 30m ES or DK 80M everything else if you just want to be on the safer side🫥 even void if you’re good a profession boxer😇

[lavish cypress]

guys im doing w5 divinity grind and i wonder what my best option should be:

1. put all chars on altar until divinity 40 lab 75
2. take off BB to get active chows for cooking and get his level div and lab later
3. take off DK to push w5 active and get his level div and lab later

[sharp mauve]

the 2nd option is confirm no.

General Skill Efficiency and primary stat also matter for Ladle Cooking.

[sullen hazel]

I am fresh into World 5, is it best to have everyone in Divinity until lvl 40 or can I have someone doing active afk on something? Want to push, or farm cards so I can start Crystal Farming

[quiet pewter]

have one off, or in general do as you please. people get super caught up on the everyone on div thing. you do need to push div a bit, but having chars do stuff you need/enjoy more will only slightly delay it

[sullen hazel]

Thanks for your answer, I don't want to be just logging in for divinity for a month. I am wondering whether I should be pushing or start farming cards, but card farming is done with the ES right, don't want to take him off...

[junior dune]

I consider the recommendation to do lab 75 immedietly quite dubious. You likely won't have enough chips for it to matter yet and you will get significantly more lab xp later when it actually matters

Divinity lvl 40 is the goal I went for

[sullen hazel]

Why would you want to push to Lab 75, what do you get out of it?

[junior dune]

An extra chip slot

[sullen hazel]

wow, I don't even have 4 chips xD

[junior dune]

Yeah that's why I wouldn't recommend it

[sullen hazel]

Was only 3 weeks in W4

[junior dune]

You will probably get 5 or 6 slots when getting to divinity 40

[sullen hazel]

I need to retake my prints with snehebatu rn?

[junior dune]

You should get like a 30% increase at least so that's a good idea

[sullen hazel]

When should i start focusing on cards and crystals? Want to know whether I should print the stuff now for the bubbles and stamps

And first 20k Statues

[junior dune]

Crystals and statues are sadly real slow without the chocolate chip which you either need to gamble for or wait until fall to get

It's a stupid system but the 4 times more crystals you get from it is invaluable

Getting cards is always a good idea though

[sullen hazel]

Wait is it known it will come next in fall?

[junior dune]

Yeah idleon toolbox has a list

[sullen hazel]

wow, I can stop grinding the 200k spurs...

you can get duplicate chips via gem Shop right

[junior dune]

Yep

I made a quite popular proposal to make it slightly less trash but I doubt it will get implemented https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1215229284344528906

[wide swallow]

guys is there a way to get world 5 keys without killing 6 mil moles ?

[solar seal]

w5 mini boss

[copper gorge]

How do i increase my dmg on my other characters

[sullen hazel]

gear, stamps, alchemy, cards, post Office

shrine

[wide swallow]

is there a world 5 miniboss ?

[solar seal]

kick the rocks at brightside map

[sullen hazel]

Yeah, means less income from gambling

[wide swallow]

they do 9k dmg lmao

[solar seal]

also you misunderstood what quest guy is saying. you don't need to kill 6m moles to unlock keys, moles and every map afterwards can drop keys as rare drop

[half stone]

fastest way to get w5 boss key if accuracy underleveled for biggole mole kills? :(((

[solar seal]

if your acc isn't high enough for moles, you aren't ready for keys on boss

[wide swallow]

dont they need a certain kill percent for the afk ? i cant get the auto loot till the next 2 months so i cant farm them active

[wide swallow]

the grind fr

i used like a whole month worth of candies 2 skip to the boss map

[bleak gazelle]

good thing you can kill it

[wide swallow]

i have 5m dmg idk if ill be able 2 kill the boss lmao

[solar seal]

there's a strong likelyhood you aren't ready for boss

[wide swallow]

if its matter of time i can leave my pc on

[solar seal]

if you have trouble with mini

[wide swallow]

[solar seal]

5m max damage will not kill boss

[wide swallow]

they do 9k dmg smh

[bleak gazelle]

oh, lul, i thought he meant the miniboss map

yeah, you'll probably need about 30m damage minimum for w5 boss

[wide swallow]

how to get 25mil dmg in 5 min please

[solar seal]

this is a questions forum, not a comedy lounge

[sharp mauve]

Improve everything that does not give damage, simple.

I am not joking.

[sharp dock]

If i have the cat god and sailing speed constellation in one char, do i need to always claim sailing with that one or is it global?

[sharp mauve]

Only the sigil matter if I am right

[solar seal]

should be global

[sharp dock]

cool, thanks

[sullen hazel]

wtf is this chip rotation, it's all grounded nanochip and motherboard

[bleak gazelle]

mhmm

Go upvote
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1215229284344528906

[half stone]

sameeee

i accidentaly left the map when summoned the minibosses..... brooooo

[wide swallow]

ok now i i feel dumb

[wide swallow]

how much damage do u you have

[sullen hazel]

it's not worth to start crystal farming without it right?

Using gems is kinda wasted for the 1/22 chance?

[wide swallow]

can u send me ur ie ?

ive got 5 mil dmg smh

[half stone]

i have phoenix wings

6mil without them

[solar seal]

neither one of you is ready for kruk

[wide swallow]

[half stone]

thats sadge.. those candies rip

[bleak gazelle]

just roll good

I got 3 back to back to back

[junior dune]

There are a bunch of chips that are quite good. Like all 6 doublers are really good, especially the card doublers for crystal chance. Then there are a bunch of decent ones that are not worth the gems but will get used. Lastly there are like 5 that are just completly useless. I think it has probably been worth it for me

[bleak gazelle]

then I wished for a card doubler a few weeks later and got one first try

of course my other rng is shit

[wide swallow]

IKRRRR

who told me 2 use them rahhhh

[solar seal]

anyone here would have told you the dmg goals for pushing to kruk

[sharp mauve]

or actually spent on Jewel

[junior dune]

Yeah get the jewels over chips

I so want the triple nblb one

[sullen hazel]

already bought two and they suck and I can't use them xD

[bleak gazelle]

good news is you can't get them again

[junior dune]

Which ones? They will likely be useful in the future

[sullen hazel]

Idc anyway the next 3 weeks are endgame jewels...

[solar seal]

wow, the guy is now complaining in gen chat saying that i "made" him use time candies which he now thinks he wasted

[bleak gazelle]

lul

did you actually say anything earlier to him about candies?

[wide swallow]

i wasnt really complaing tbh

[sullen hazel]

the one with lower food consume chance and more money per fungi kills

[wide swallow]

just pinged u cuz i thought it would be funny

i dont mind

[bleak gazelle]

i don't even have general chat in my channel list

[wide swallow]

i thought the doggo emoji would explain it

[sullen hazel]

Lower food consume chance sucks right? Since you can just use one for the whole afk session

[bleak gazelle]

only for skilling, for healing/pots it's still good

getting fungi early though does kinda suck

[junior dune]

Yeah that one is basically useless

[junior dune]

But fungi fingers will be a good money boost in the future

[solar seal]

you provided 0 context - so i provided general answer - not my fault your intention was about getting to kruk

[sharp mauve]

Time Candy is not band aid solution

If you use one and see something super wrong, then think again. Math is not very hard.

[bleak gazelle]

for some things it is

[wide swallow]

look at the doggo emoji when i pinged u that would explain it

im not complaing or nor do i care abt it

ur too serious

[solar seal]

sir. you were typing in all caps in gen - a chat i never go to

[sharp mauve]

just stop this topic and review mechanics u ignored

[wide swallow]

i thought it would be funny

[solar seal]

yeah not funny when people misinterpret it easily cause context is still not given

Its whatever. Kattle is a damage check on your account as compared to previous bosses. If your power systems aren't up to date, you'll have trouble finding all your damage sources to beat him easily

[sullen hazel]

I just used candies for pushing so I can get faster to w5 to setup stuff

[wide swallow]

does investing in my other toons give the buffs they get to each other ? or just focus on my dk ?

[sullen hazel]

or the rare stuff in post office 4

[bleak gazelle]

the only things that are really character specific are levels and PO boxes, everything else should be account wide

[pale jay]

All toons play a role in generally improving your account. It's mostly about picking your goals sensibly and not neglecting any of them too much.

[sharp mauve]

"This character cannot help me beat the boss. Let me ignore his Post Office and Skilling power."

[sullen hazel]

Just give them skill efficiency, gear for samples, put it back in the storage and let him rot in lab

[sour totem]

just failed a fucking 87 percent chance snail

are you fucknig kidding me

[fallow aurora]

it happens

[bleak gazelle]

just don't have snail, can't fail then

oh speaking of, i unlocked snail yesterday. gotta spend some mail

[bronze cosmos]

Is there a list of all the ways to increase max Evolution in Gaming? According to Wiki Gaming houses 3. one with a 2x rarer, one with a 250x rarer, and one with a 5000x rarer chance to happen. I've seen people at max 8 though. Where's that and how much rarer is it?

[bleak gazelle]

Pretty sure default is 5 and you can buy 3 more in superbits

[bronze cosmos]

I am at 5 and have bought 1 in Superbits, so default is 4

[bleak gazelle]

oh, jade emporium has the 50k one

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=max evo

[bronze cosmos]

ah, for 843.4T

I'm just getting started with Billions, and am currently still rescuing the Characters on Floor 7, so gonna take a bit until I'm there

[bleak gazelle]

damn bruh, another new nugget, i'm spoiled

[half stone]

if accidentally summon Domeo Magmus and left the map can i get back somehow the minibosses?

[frigid swift]

hax

[bleak gazelle]

got 10 vman prints today, so this thing is almost ready to be maxed

[junior dune]

First T sheet damage display!

I so should get a snake skin sample as well

[frigid swift]

been half assing my prints but i finished that one the other day

[bleak gazelle]

time to get vial mastery unlocked

[junior dune]

Just got 19k in poing

I'm getting more consistent so should probably be able to get the achievement if I do it without the lag

Or I could just randomly manage it while es farming like acecow

[buoyant sable]

What lvl is needed for instant gaming?

[simple wadi]

Significantly higher than this I suppose.

[junior dune]

I've heard 0.5 min but I don't know

[sullen hazel]

When to start with equinox and rift?

[junior dune]

Rift you need a few million damage for

[sullen hazel]

2 mill max on Dk not enough I guess?

[junior dune]

You can check the list of equniox dreams. If any of the first few dreams seem doable you can start

[sullen hazel]

void gear with w5 stones is enough till kattle right?

[junior dune]

Maybe for the trap vacuum which collects your traps on daily reset. That ones isn't particularly good so I wouldn't bother

[junior dune]

Yeah definitely

[sullen hazel]

what is the first rift bonus, worth pushing?

[simple wadi]

They're all pretty strong bonuses.

[sullen hazel]

Yeah just pushing dmg and HP from the warrior was way better for survivability than def and food, just kill them fast enough for the healing star talent

[simple wadi]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/The_Rift

[junior dune]

Infinite Starsigns is alright. You will get 4 star signs to be always active, but probably won't unlock more for a while especially since you did W4 quickly. Skill Mastery is really good and makes a ton of cards passive

[sullen hazel]

oh infinite stars, need to get all star signs before that

[junior dune]

Then basically all of them are really strong

Eclipse skull will probably not be relevant when you unlock it in the rift though

[steep kiln]

Skill mastery is probably the biggest one in early rift

[sullen hazel]

yeah, all my Chars are neglected, well I'm good enough in lab and cooking rn for pushing, trapping is well rn because of Maestro pushing

[junior dune]

Just FYI you can schow (100m bb kills) the rift and you will need more damage the farther you go. It's totally doable at max lvl but you may want to consider doing it earlier when the mobs have low hp

[sullen hazel]

Everyone except one is elite class but only one is 100 for lab gear (bubo) and one 154dk

[junior dune]

I did it after skill mastery since I didn't care about eclipse skulls

[sullen hazel]

so I need to do rift with bb?

[junior dune]

No but you can get bonuses from having bb kills there

[sullen hazel]

Ah okay, think I should still be focusing on w 1 apocalypse then

[junior dune]

You know zows and chows where you get damage and cooking efficiency for having 100k or 1m bb kills in an area? Super chows require 100m kills and give 1.1x cooking speed

[sullen hazel]

Should I start with lvl my Maestro to 150 right after divinity 40? Or is it too rarly

[junior dune]

It is unlocked with vman

[sullen hazel]

yeah need way more dmg and multi kill for that 😂

[junior dune]

Yeah I know it won't be relevant for a while, but it can be good to know for planning purposes in the future

[junior dune]

Probably, but I don't really remember what kinds of lvls you have in different places. Getting vman should start to get reasonable now as well

[sullen hazel]

yeah I think I should just get the 100k apos for more dmg, so get more kph

[sullen hazel]

or maybe first getting to 1# in each skill in w1 to w3?

[junior dune]

Both reasonable options

[sullen hazel]

fuck there is so much cool stuff to do, but need to grind divinity, well I think I'll just use the time now to plan everything after that, even my gem usage...

How much time should I calculate for pushing to w6?

[bleak gazelle]

I would do this if you're planning to resample soon

You'll need to get 30-80m damage (ES/DK > others > BB/vman) for whoever you push on to be able to kill w5 boss, you can candy your way there if you want

[junior dune]

Saying how long a world will take is really difficult. Probably a few weeks

[sullen hazel]

Do I even have a good option rn for candies?
Well I think after divinity is a good time to focus on getting everything in a good state, or should I just push again to w6, because it was always like push as fast as you can, you are faster with the new world bonuses

[rose yacht]

you should be able to reach w6 in a week or two

[sullen hazel]

Thank you all btw for answering all my questions, I really appreciate it!

[bleak gazelle]

Somehow managed this on my BB, kind of impressed

Didn't think I'd have enough respawn

[solar seal]

w5 is last world to push with candies so its not a bad idea to use them there. if you ahven't gotten your 12M gmush kills on your maestro either, that's also a good candidate for candy use

[bleak gazelle]

so close ㅠ.ㅠ

[maiden blade]

why does this say up to level 200 when its ancient? should be 400

[bleak gazelle]

cosmic candies on gmush

refresh map if you just got it

[maiden blade]

did a cloud save

[solar seal]

the top is base form, is it not?

[sullen hazel]

I don't need candies in w6 right, can't use them anyways

[solar seal]

i don't think it 'updates' text after you get ancient

[bleak gazelle]

oh, yeah, 200 is just base text

[solar seal]

can't use them there

[maiden blade]

so its 400 but it says 200?

[sullen hazel]

How do people even get all those candies for the nothing island?

[maiden blade]

lava code

[bleak gazelle]

giant mobs, colo, level up bonus bubble

[solar seal]

the crystal island drops a ton

[sullen hazel]

oh yeah right, forgot about that, need to send my bb there again... for an hour or smth xD

[solar seal]

there are a lot of sources for candies. and don't underestimate the hardcore farmers who farm colo tickets -> w2 colo

[sullen hazel]

or is it worth getting the fishing lvl on some other class for doing that?

[solar seal]

esp cause of the need for golden kebabs

[solar seal]

you can easily get fishing to 30 for everyone so they can access those islands ez

you'll need it for shimmer when challenges involve non-warriors

fishing in equinox hole req's 0 efficiency -> you can easily power level everyone to 30 in like 5-10min/per char depending on your account bonuses

[sullen hazel]

So do it in equinox right?

[solar seal]

that's how i did it, not sure if there's faster/easier but was pretty simple for me

[sullen hazel]

I think I'm gonna use my candies now on unlocking equinox, my kph should be fine enough there

[solar seal]

remember, you only need 1 character to get to equinox -> portal item can be used by everyone afterwards -> ez way to get bloodbone constellation

[paper estuary]

Is the best way to rush fury relic to just hyper max one boat and have them go unlock the cloud while others farm regulars and ancients on closer islands?

[solar seal]

best? likely not. that's probably the fastest way to gamba for it using only 1 boat. best is have all your boats going for it cause odds can be pretty shite.

[paper estuary]

Damn. I’m 185 tenta and atom collider and takeout achieve are far lol

[solar seal]

the island is 300k distance, not sure how developed your sailing is but there are useful artifacts along the way that are worth while. if you are ready to discover island 8, you should have at least a few of them

[paper estuary]

Yeah I pretty much have everything base artifact up to island 5, just gated by boat costs at this point

[solar seal]

its worth trying to at least ancient the sailing speed one (island 4) while you develop your boats

[paper estuary]

Thankfully i got the sailing speed thing from summoning, helped a bunch

[sterile vault]

get 10AD Tablet, Genie Lamp and Fauxory tusk to ancient

speed, loot and luck

[ocean lily]

is offerings for divinity just a straight up roll of that percentage, no other influences?

for god rank if that makes any difference

[solar seal]

it should be

[balmy thorn]

are most jade artifacts .01 chance?

[solar seal]

if you lucky they 0.01. its likey smaller and just shows 0.01 cause it smallest displayed value

[balmy thorn]

yea most of mine are .03-.01 or less. ive been trying for the mask for a week or so now

[solar seal]

that's just how it is

[hidden pivot]

Should I push w5 with an sb?

[rose yacht]

No

[hidden pivot]

Why?

[rose yacht]

Just No

[bleak gazelle]

Most likely too squishy

[hidden pivot]

I need a reason if I'm taking your advice, because my sb is caught up with my dk

[solar seal]

SB isn't the worst, if you like your SB mroe than your DK, then go ahead. DK/ES is heavily recommended due to looking forward to boss requirements

[bleak gazelle]

Respawn with SB is a bit more finnicky than DK/ES if you dont have vman enhancement, too

[hidden pivot]

I like sb better because his damage scales faster for the dmg

[bleak gazelle]

Damage will probably be fine though

[solar seal]

i assume most are fast pushers nowadays, most will never actually need respawn

[hidden pivot]

Ima get vman before I actually push w5

So once I get those 12m gmush kills then my maestro will help get vman for himself

I'm at 7.99m

[solar seal]

your sentence confusing me slightly, just to make sure you are getting the 12M kills on the maestro. Kills from others don't count for the quest

[hidden pivot]

Sorry, I meant the 12m kills on my maestro

I'm at 7.99m Gmush kills on my maestro rn

[solar seal]

mk the wording made it sound like you might have been accumulating kills on others

[hidden pivot]

Nope, I'm done with w1 and I'm working on w2 rn

Hopefully I can still get 1 mob a day

W3 will pose a challenge though

[solar seal]

just throw more people at it (if you aren't already)

[hidden pivot]

W3 will be hard because I only have 2 characters who have access to detoded rams

[solar seal]

you have equinox portal item?

[hidden pivot]

Yeah

[solar seal]

walk backwards after porting

everyone has access to bloodbones and rams

[hidden pivot]

Really?

I didn't know that

[solar seal]

thats why the bloodbone constellation is one of the easiest, so long as you've done it on 1 person

[hidden pivot]

Thanks

I'm guessing you already have vman?

Chaotic chizoar and the 12m aren't really that hard

[solar seal]

they aren't, not by time you have everything else prepped

[hidden pivot]

Cuz I've already beaten chaotic chizoar with my maestro

[solar seal]

hardest honestly is prob getting 150 on maestro

cause you gotta do the portals yourself

[hidden pivot]

It only took like 3 days

Not too bad

[simple wadi]

Finally took the time to level skills on my chrs. Most of my chrs were at level ~25 on fishing, catching, wc, and mining. Still not where they probably should be, but I just leveled each skill to 80, which is where the blue candies started to require like 5 per level.

[solar seal]

300 away from w6 jewels too

[wheat berry]

35m range on DK we're gonna hit W6 soon

[short sparrow]

u got this!!

[maiden blade]

do star signs like this only work if i am online and have it on the character i am active in?

[simple wadi]

No? Why would that one be active only? Sailing is passive.

[bleak shore]

is there a send all or smthin like that for sailing that you unlock or do i gotta do it manually every time

[simple wadi]

Manually every time.

[maiden blade]

so if i just activate in on a random character, it will give me the +20% even if i open the map with another char?

[junior dune]

I believe it is snapshotted everytime you claim sailing gains

[simple wadi]

Ah I see what you mean. Yeah, what Trialpears said.

[maiden blade]

i see thanks, and it only affects the boat speed right? min is still going to be 2h

[junior dune]

Yeah that exactly

[simple wadi]

Yeah, minimum is only affected by SB and the corgi pet.

[junior dune]

Soon you will unlock another starsign for artifact chance as well

Or I guess you have it already

Thought the order was reversed

[maiden blade]

yes i have it, i guess with that one, i just put it on before i open the map, if i remember

[junior dune]

Yeah and same for speed

[maiden blade]

ah ok great

[bleak gazelle]

i just leave them on my 2nd SB and have him check all the time

[maiden blade]

mine is very low level so missing skills, i check with 1st

[junior dune]

I'm contemplating if I should spend like 1000 hours worth of candy to eclipse W1

[simple wadi]

Eclipse? Is that something above obsidian skull?

[junior dune]

Yeah 1b kills

[maiden blade]

+5% multi dmg seems cool\

[junior dune]

I've done this one but no others

[simple wadi]

Ah. Go for it. @rapid shale told me it only takes a month to eclipse worlds 1-5 and that I'm just a newb for taking four months to do W1-3.

[junior dune]

I think it's probably worth it

[bleak gazelle]

you don't have gmush eclipsed?

[junior dune]

Nah was thinking I would do them in kph order

[rapid shale]

hey thats me

[bleak gazelle]

but all the gmush massacre bonuses

[junior dune]

You're right, thought I would get to it a lot faster though but found a bunch of optimizations I wanted to do before hand

At least I have the dumpling bean stack now

My cheapest eclipse now is 102 hours

That's decent and I guess it won't go down that much just because of the eclipse skull buffs

Probably more like 2000 hours of candy though

Should be fine. Here's my death note if anyone's curious

[bleak gazelle]

lets goooo

84.5% chance, not bad

oh, finally got this

[drifting breach]

Best place to farm food and statues w6

[green ocean]

its in the pinned messages

[lethal aspen]

#endgame-chat-w7🐟

[echo frost]

what's up with the clouds in sailing?

I've had a ship in there for 6 hours and still 0 progress

[simple wadi]

They cover new islands. I suggest finding some captains with cloud discovery rate and using them while the rest of your sailers find artifacts.

[half stone]

how can i link 2nd god to ES?

[bleak gazelle]

remember to set it on both presets

[half stone]

soooo its work like if i lvl up it to 100 i have to stand under elephant to de-level?

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, or can always use a talent reset

[half stone]

thank you

[ocean basin]

hows purrmep work with doot?

[junior arrow]

you still need to link to purrmep\

and only that link counts like normal

[bleak gazelle]

so ideally you still want whoever is highest div level to link to it

[lost plank]

How do I beat chaotic kattle in 30 seconds? Currently using a level 400 es and maybe getting a third of the way in 30 seconds at best.

[junior arrow]

levels mean nothing

you just need more damage, and higher talent levels

[still axle]

When should i roll for the next one

[late copper]

always

[still apex]

How's this for nightmare kruk?
I want to do it with minimal effort, attacking moles is a bit difficult on mobile.

EDIT: Nevermind. It was easy

[lost plank]

What should I aim for my library to be at? It's currently at like 151 or 155

[still axle]

Are you able to delevel this if you dn't have Omniphau yet? Can you lower it by standing at his spot?

[lost plank]

Yes

[still apex]

You can do it with or without it unlocked

[still axle]

Just harvest, attempt, repeat? Harvest one at a time and attempt?

[lost plank]

Just stand where omni would be

[still axle]

Which ones his ><

[still apex]

They have diminishing returns the longer it goes. Do it often

[still apex]

Far left up top

[still axle]

Understood! Thank you for the answers

[junior arrow]

it all depends on your damage, there is rarely a set answer in this game, everything depends on what you have done

[lost plank]

I suppose that's a fair assessment

[junior arrow]

just do the best you can and if it doesnt work, then work on something else

[lost plank]

I wanted to unlock kruk wand so I can do morer damage so I could do w6 miniboss, but I'll stay content with skull wand

At least I have the armor unlocked!

[strange tartan]

why slab dont count npc and so more things? dont make me sense ive bluders hills trophy and dont have npc tokens in slab

[bleak gazelle]

Do tokens go straight into your inventory? Maybe you never dropped/picked them up

I know most things are "supposed to be fixed" but...spaghetti code

[still apex]

I know tp pete's drop on the floor, picnic stowaway's don't

[strange tartan]

rlly i need drop on floor and pick up .___________________.

[bleak gazelle]

yes, that's how slab works

[terse remnant]

should i use unending loot on my sb?

[bleak gazelle]

If you're checking chests multiple times a day, i would not

[terse remnant]

so if i check once a day i use it?

[bleak gazelle]

That's what I do

[terse remnant]

ok

ty

[bleak gazelle]

The sailling tab in this has a bit more info
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[still axle]

How do you switch which poboxes you're looking at? I've unlocked a "ew po box" from sailing but can't figure out how to switch

[lost plank]

You need to unlock box tab 2

[still axle]

How do i do that

[lost plank]

By unlocking all delivery tabs in tab 2

[still axle]

Ah, gotcha.

[lost plank]

If you've been caught lacking you're in for a rude awakening

[still axle]

More like i overly pushed myself through to world 5 and am far behind

[lost plank]

Yeah. Caught lacking in alchemy and po like I was?

[still axle]

Alchemy probably, hard to gauge where im at with that.

[lost plank]

How do I work on gaming? Currently an owner of The Log™️ and kitsune rock. I'm in the ones and sometimes tens of green bit

[bleak gazelle]

If you check often, keep kitsune turned on and just collect plants

[lost plank]

I do not unfortunately

[bleak gazelle]

here are all the modifiers to work on (plus some other random ones)
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=bit

a lot of gaming is just waiting and rng

[lost plank]

I need pong... so badly

[bleak gazelle]

don't think it's that big a multiplier

I would work on getting the Equinox shovel node if you don't have that yet

[lost plank]

I honestly just want to do the secret acheivment

And my shovel is 3.9kx

[junior dune]

I think it will be a hard one on mobile

Oh wait the secret one for 0 points?

That's easy yeah

[thorn kindle]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53685003972_a957d63963_o.png this some bs

[bold geyser]

whats the best source for obol frags

[bleak gazelle]

beans or pots, take your pick

[pale crag]

Crystal farming

In w1 or w2

W2 should be better

[bold geyser]

bet

[heavy spire]

I'd say w2 since more silver/gold obols drop than bronze.

[pale crag]

Yep

[heavy spire]

Plus W2 drops dice obols.

[bold geyser]

im burning too many frags on dice obol fusing

[pale crag]

[heavy spire]

That's were mine keep going too.

[pale crag]

I just farmed 1 set of Dr obols and stopped

[bold geyser]

i wonder why my damage halves itself in the kattlekruk fight esp since my accuracy is 56k

[pale crag]

Shouldn't happen

Maybe shrine?

[heavy spire]

I have to silver the POPs, but I have a full set otherwise.

[bold geyser]

it's not the shrine

[pale crag]

Should have enough accuracy for the refinery talent to work

[bold geyser]

Yeaaaa...

[heavy spire]

What's your damage in the mole map?

[bold geyser]

oh it gets halved tehre

accuracy issue then i guess, need like 80k

[pale crag]

Well now you know the issue

[pale crag]

Silver the pops its not even that hard

[heavy spire]

I know, just gotta want to go ES the frogs again, instead of CC on wurms.

[pale crag]

[heavy spire]

The ever-present alchemy.

[pale crag]

[wanton obsidian]

Best place to farm hotdogs in w1?

For golden peanuts

[solar seal]

do them while you crystal farm on beans

[wanton obsidian]

They give so little amount

Any better place?

[solar seal]

welcome to the golden food grind

[wanton obsidian]

Yikes ok

[heavy spire]

Boa/Carrot/Slime have the drop table as well.

[wanton obsidian]

This is what I get for filtering hotdogs when I was crystal farming in w1

Now when I need it I don't have it

[junior dune]

That will never be a significant source. I just did like 800m slime kills for the eclipse skull and got just 350000 hotdogs. Obviously I would get more with a dk with optimized dr and the orb, but the crystals will still be way more important

[wanton obsidian]

Ty for the extra info too

[crystal yew]

is unending loot search a good talent?? If im really far into sailing. I have all relics base atp

i heard it was bad somehow

is this true? /:

[solar seal]

if you check your loot pile often enough, its better getting more chances at artifacts rather than having an upgrade chest that might still give you nothing

[still apex]

It basically halves your chest limit, stopping your ships from sitting with an extra on standby. it's great for exp, because your ships just keep going.

[solar seal]

but if you don't check often enough - its a way to allow you to not have your ships sitting at port w/o doing anything

[crystal yew]

i rlly am tryna get rage upgraded. But that islands not too far. So its prob worth having right? Whats the min max way to do it. Rn i am testing upgrading the min chest requirment vry high

my chars get sailing time p often so id imagine ill always want that talent

[still apex]

It's most efficient to check often enough for unending loot pile to never proc, you want quantity over quality.

[bleak gazelle]

we made it

aye not, not bad

lets goooo

[junior dune]

This eclipse business is going great! Got a ton of damage in the process and now have enough damage for mk in the rift and am getting ruby cards in 5 hours with all my optimizations

I just did 4 now and they took ~500 hours of candy

I should probably have gotten ruby cards earlier though given how fast it is now

[lethal aspen]

slows down around w4/5 tho

took me like 300m kills in w3 to max out their cards

[heavy spire]

Literally just did this one myself.

[lucid olive]

Finally got evergreen and don’t look at my micro nugget!

[heavy spire]

Tiny nugget gang?

[lucid olive]

Yea been that way since the start

[heavy spire]

Same. Been ages since my last nugget upgrade.

[tribal vessel]

first nightmare w2 boss lol

[bold geyser]

micro nugget gang

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/fEczmSc.png

smol nuggie

[strong shale]

how do u manage your green bits with such a small nugget?

save for eternity?

[heavy spire]

I've gotten other multipliers, so a full harvest is ~5k green bits or so.

[willow ermine]

Do i start discovering island 3 if a trip takes 6 hours?

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/JMDKEg6.png

[lethal aspen]

you can, or can farm a few more to upgrade speed

[rancid zephyr]

how do i get like 1231242131x nugget

[stable parrot]

Equinox dream and lvl up shovel

[rancid zephyr]

oh ok

[stable parrot]

Dream will be the biggest boost

[rancid zephyr]

bruh i did nothing on my equinox

[stable parrot]

Might be too early to push for those big big nuggets then

Just collect when you can and hope and pray for now while upgrading shovel

[rancid zephyr]

ok thx

[willow ermine]

Equinox is hell

I dont know if im bad or the dreams are hard

[stable parrot]

It kinda sucks

[willow ermine]

Equinox?

[stable parrot]

Yea

It’s a pain

[strong shale]

difficult to level up

[willow ermine]

Idk its just rough

[strong shale]

:[

[willow ermine]

Also what box does the ankh unlock, i dont see anything

[stable parrot]

!wiki

[obtuse orbit]

Here is the link to the Legends of Idleon wiki. It contains incredibly valuable info that will help you progress faster and more efficiently! https://idleon.wiki/

[willow ermine]

I mean it unlocks a box, hoe do i put points in it

[stable parrot]

The post office

It’s not a new delivery it’s a new box type in the second tab of boxes

[willow ermine]

Uhh i have trouble accessing it

[stable parrot]

I had trouble getting it too, I had a bunch of them unlocked but couldnt get into the tab to do them. Now sure what gave access to tab 2

[strong shale]

someone said u gotta finish all the orders for page 2

[willow ermine]

Yeah im not getting that soon

[stable parrot]

Like the page 2 delivery types?

[strong shale]

mhm

[strong shale]

are you in w6 by chance? isnt that where a lot of bit% comes from

[lethal aspen]

update tomorrow hype. and no w6 doesnt give much if any. It just gives speed

[strong shale]

hm seems like alchemy + cooking

[lethal aspen]

and sailing

[strong shale]

yea

frick

5 bubbles from that one lol

gonna be a while before i get that

[lethal aspen]

how u struggling with alch lol. do you have 200 tent bubo?

[strong shale]

no, my max is ~150

[lethal aspen]

are you using bubo with bubble breakthru to unlock?

[strong shale]

ofc yeah

thats at around 160ish bc of slug

maybe ill look into maxing my books

[lethal aspen]

where yo sailing up to?

sailing is huge, gaming is

[strong shale]

https://lowgunn.idleonefficiency.com

kinda mid on sailing ig

have all pets besides doot

[gilded sedge]

Relatable

[lethal aspen]

same

im missing custard too, one day

[strong shale]

i had to whale for ram

[lethal aspen]

soontm

[strong shale]

big time whale that is

dont think i got ram/custard till tier 5

but i got slug on my like starter pack green gems lol

i needed the custard early exp/drop so bad for my early game, didnt wanna struggle leveling all my chars

[lethal aspen]

the drop is nice, im missing 140% because of it 😦

[strong shale]

its fair to try and ancient arti the sailing speed/divinity gain right

[lethal aspen]

yeah

[strong shale]

oh jeez the cons mastery raises the level by 100

yeah no shot i have that for bubo :[

would 160/170 tent be decent enough ?

[lethal aspen]

thats the talent building

not skill level, and no you want 200 so tenteyecle goes to 3s

you'll need fury at least + slug ig

[strong shale]

yea

[lethal aspen]

i mean you can still try it but it wont be as good as 200

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/3ebw17q.png

guess this is also a part of it

[lethal aspen]

you wont get that before fury i bet tho

just go get fury

burn bottle winds/farm golden hampters

[strong shale]

yeah id get winds from doing those w5 quests, gotta start that

pushing on all chars, theyre just sat in lab

[somber sundial]

is he worth?

[junior arrow]

depends what your other captains are

how we suppose to answer without all the info

[lethal aspen]

just give him a very generalised answer no

imagine not green cptn

?wiki Sailing

[verbal canyon]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Sailing

[lethal aspen]

go check the max rolls ^

[zinc torrent]

Good Haul After 156 Kruk Runs

[lethal aspen]

where obol

[junior dune]

Something weird is going on with gem drops I swear

[zinc torrent]

11.72x drop sucks

vman i get 1-3 drops

[junior dune]

300 runs giving a bit over 200 is considered standard

[zinc torrent]

Jman Skill Is Love

[junior dune]

It shouldn't work on gems

And your gains are way bigger than expected if it worked anyways. I would say that you miscounted if it wasn't for similar discussion in W6 chat about horrible luck

[warm pike]

Am I dumb or does Slargon start out like an underdeveloped anime side character getting bullied and stuff and then on his last quest he is like “We have to be strong kill them all” or some shit like that😂

Actually he’s like “I don’t like them because they are ugly kill them all”

[lethal aspen]

what did lava break now

[spring summit]

The 4th wall

[wide swallow]

guys is it worth it to work my way thru dementia armor to troll or do i go thru void then lustre ?

[sterile vault]

troll will take a long time, lustre will probably be cheap for you by the time you can make sets of troll

aim for troll but make at least one set of each of the others for slab/looty (ignore diabolical you'll want the null salt)

[remote lotus]

why is every name taken i’m just tryna make a 2nd character

[kind heath]

It's current known bug
#💖future-content-blog message

[spice meadow]

No

[coarse sky]

is there a way to know the max evolution i reach for my gaming garden plant. I want to know if my sprout max evolve is level 6-7- or 8

[coarse sky]

thanks, that includ all the bonus

[wanton locust]

if someone donates 400ish $$, i can get a king doot

[frigid swift]

why. i got it in 40

[wanton locust]

cuz the system wont gimme

[frigid swift]

its a 50/50 chance to get it

[wanton locust]

it's like 7 50/50 chances

[frigid swift]

nah.

[wanton locust]

cuz it has to go through each uncommon/rare/and epic pet

[spice meadow]

What you yapping about

[frigid swift]

well thats a bit rude dont ya think

[hushed shell]

nah he is right

Either you get it or you don't get it, that's 50/50

[spice meadow]

[covert jacinth]

for golden hampter farming would that be ES at wurms? or DK?

[muted scroll]

DK

[frigid swift]

I would do either DK if you are statue farming still. or Bubo for CC

[muted scroll]

or those yeah

[bleak gazelle]

oh nice, just got this

[frigid swift]

They grow up so fast!

[upper slate]

baby we done it!

[lucid olive]

Anyone else crashing after trying to claim afk gains ?

Never mind it’s the update

[lyric adder]

Should I make full marble gear for an afk es?

[frigid swift]

Finally. bom upgrades

[bleak gazelle]

maybe I can catch up with you with this sneaking rework

[frigid swift]

what rework lol

oh look an update. brb gotta read it

[bleak gazelle]

new pack is crazy

edging towards doot level power

[frigid swift]

WHAAAAAT

brrooooo if that pops up when i update im buying it immediately

[junior dune]

No more colosseum tickets in the po box is the stealth nerf

Ruining stamps completely with the bundle

Adding another annoying minigame

[frigid swift]

honestly i think its a helpful catchup patck

[bleak gazelle]

hey now, hoops is fun and something I'm actually decent at

[junior dune]

I can't say that this is a great update

[bleak gazelle]

mostly because you're not timed

[junior dune]

You can get stamps to formerly impossible lvls easily

Optimizing cost reductions and carry cap is a thing of the past

[bleak gazelle]

optimizing? you mean waiting for gilded and atom to stack up?

[junior dune]

Yeah and caring about every little carry cap buff you can get

[bleak gazelle]

well then

[frigid swift]

love hoops

def slightly different shooting points than IS though

awww no limited shop rotation

[bleak gazelle]

i noticed a bit of lag when shooting too, which throws it off a bit

[frigid swift]

Poggin

i like that it came with a free gold watch just to trigger it

[bleak gazelle]

yep, helped me get to rank 2 bobjoe faster

oh, gold watch...wonder if that resets hoops too

[lucid sentinel]

how do i make no bubble left behind upgrade w4+ bubbles? i think i saw somehting about it somewhere but i cant find it again

[bleak gazelle]

it does

don't think the arc is as high as in IS

[junior dune]

Lithium from atom collider

[frigid swift]

hmm i wonder if i gotta relog to get another hoops run

[bleak shore]

how does one get him back

[bleak gazelle]

w1 shop has a bll you can buy

my first snail level

[frigid swift]

awww m,an i wish i knew that first

[bleak gazelle]

alright, time go figure out wtf is happening in sneaking

[frigid swift]

wonder if theres a new vial coming with ball lol

yea ill have to look also. i just unlocked another floor yesterday

[bleak gazelle]

i'm still on floor 5...or 6?

[frigid swift]

im on whatever floor has the spider jar. too lazy to count

oh look at that. done with w5 onyx statues.

[bleak gazelle]

i'm on spooky tree floor, door is down to 6k

[muted scroll]

yeah, sneaking got a buff

/ nerf in a good way

[bleak gazelle]

all these gems, figured I could get some slab items, maybe use them for speedruns

[junior dune]

Alright at my computer now and I guess I will get at least a few tickets before updating

I'm not surprised, just disappointed

[bleak gazelle]

decided to buy a pristine charm too, smh

[gaunt forge]

recommended amount of mail to invest into snail before attempting 19 to 20?

[steep kiln]

So it just adds +10 more levels randomly to the bubbles that it normally procs with?

[bleak gazelle]

Two bubbles will get +5, it seems

[steep kiln]

And it looks like two bubbles that you'd normally trigger, not additional?

this pack is crazy

[bleak gazelle]

mhmm

[loud isle]

waiting for iOS to update so can buy it with mobile credit

[echo crag]

beside the pack any other gemshop change ?

[frigid swift]

none that i saw

limited shop still the same

[echo crag]

arcade still the same ?

[frigid swift]

didnt look probably

yup still same

[echo crag]

so op pack and colo nerf are the big highlight from what i gathered quick then

[frigid swift]

i should read patch notes. what colo nerf

[echo crag]

colo ticket from po box been remove from what i got

[frigid swift]

i didnt see that in the notes.

[junior dune]

There's like always a shadow nerf

[bleak gazelle]

not completely removed, nerfed 10x, it seems. they're sepculating 300 pens on average for a ticket

[junior dune]

The problem with 10x nerf is the insane amount of clicking required

[frigid swift]

good thing i dont bother with PO spamming for tickets.

too lazy

[bleak gazelle]

i'm assuming this is to prep for the Colo update later, but idk why he launched it with this one

[junior dune]

I'm so glad I at least got 10k kebabs

[frigid swift]

now that i finished W5 statues idk what i wanna do.

[junior dune]

Yeah probably. I find it very strange that he did it like that and it worries me since he may want to spread out the backlash

[junior dune]

W6 statues? The dumplings are great

[frigid swift]

i dont think i have enough dmg to make it worth farming them yet

[bleak gazelle]

oof, yeah, wonder what he plans to hit next, then

[wary nymph]

Hi guys, I have all materials to craft divine set, but I only have lvl 68 smithing. Any tips to lvl up a bit faster?

[junior dune]

What kind of damage do you have? Obviously not enough for mini chiefs but baby trolls are quite good as well

[bleak gazelle]

can spam bullets or food

[junior dune]

Crafting coldseeker bullets or whatever they are called

[frigid swift]

on my DK with my DR stuff 7b-13b

[junior dune]

I easily got lvl 100 on my archers that way

[wary nymph]

is there a way of ''mass production'' instead of holding a button for an hour ?

[bleak gazelle]

though if you have the materials in your bag it crafts faster than from stash

[junior dune]

That is probably borderline, try it out

[frigid swift]

i should prob upgrade out of dem armor and void scythe on my DK

[junior dune]

You won't be able to use midas

[frigid swift]

ye thats fine though. iom almost to 16 DR without it

[wary nymph]

I've just realised, coldseeker bullets require lvl 71 smithing. What is best to mass produce for these 3 lvls?

[frigid swift]

how many gold peanuts you got 😛

[wary nymph]

200 ? 😅

[frigid swift]

xD

[bleak gazelle]

tab 2/3 food is also an option

[steep kiln]

does something drop gold stop watches? I got one randomly

[sharp mauve]

Why ppl keep ignoring Picinic Stowaway to farm 10k G.Kebab?

[frigid swift]

you bought the new pack

[muted scroll]

the pack u brought

[steep kiln]

oh lol

I just saw +stamp/bubbles and igored the rest

[frigid swift]

same

[junior dune]

I guess it's quite good actually. 340 kebabs a day if you've saved up the statue tools. Thing is that you won't get candy this way

[bleak gazelle]

oh, that's why i had statue tools, right

[junior dune]

Just 30 gems though

That is a lot less than you would get from coliseum

[frigid swift]

i always forget about picnic

[bleak gazelle]

one day i'll get the trophy

[junior dune]

I guess I'm ready to update now that I have done my last ticket farming

[echo crag]

spent some gem from the pack to buy charms, not bad roll for me got the 2 i put X next too

[bleak gazelle]

nice, I got wisdom and stamps

[echo crag]

thats good, at least the wis is worth it compared to luck

[bleak gazelle]

but my vman damage

[tardy swallow]

What i do here to get the first god?

[bleak gazelle]

gamble

you can either mash the left option until the middle option rolls a 100% and save for that... or you can just full gamba on left option and pray

[tardy swallow]

I do have a gambling addiction

it worked

[bleak gazelle]

Here's a 📌 if you want some more info
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

And now you wait

[ruby bloom]

Alchemy - Cranium cooking farming
Tremor worms the best?
with boxing glove (i cant get the world 6 staves yet)

[frigid swift]

mhm

[ruby bloom]

thanks

[short sparrow]

Basketball huh

,, neat