lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[junior dune]

If you have colosseum tickets you could do a dk run and get a bunch of keys

May be enough to get to gold

[serene flame]

im juggling progressing enough in w6 to get to sussy gene with my actives

[serene flame]

dr is not great. it's 6.7x

[lethal aspen]

what do u even need to juggle lol, just send the 2 chars

or even 1 and vman open the wood spirit portal

[serene flame]

everyone else on div

[lethal aspen]

chuck them on bear and make thme useful lol

[serene flame]

bear stays chucked on in this dorm

[lethal aspen]

or goat and in lab too

i hope you didnt break lab

[serene flame]

how would i have?

[lethal aspen]

idk some people do that and wonder why their gains are gone

[serene flame]

i don't keep vman in lab thankfully

i have enough lab levels to do the 6 man strat but am using 7 for the new w6 stuff

[lethal aspen]

well anyway 103m/hr shud be decent exp to help catchup

and if your not candying can try bamboo logs later too if its more xp

[serene flame]

yeah. will still take quite a few days to get to the 90s and while i do have a week or two worth of candy idk if that's something i wanna rush

[lethal aspen]

need to improve your EFF first tho

[serene flame]

especially because im about to have to do this process with mining which will be much harder considering ive been mining godshard for a while now on my miners

[lethal aspen]

well you dont have tool upgrades ready for him yet anyway

[lethal aspen]

oofers, did noone tell you to never skill

[junior dune]

If line width is your issue I think cooking probably will be the easier way to fix that

[serene flame]

keeping a balance between not skilling while trying to max all your cards is very difficult

[lethal aspen]

once mman existed never skill only print

[lethal aspen]

chuck your off-classes to farm cards then

so like mages on ore cards etc

just need vman to help give them eff first tho

[serene flame]

oh that's actually a really smart idea yeah but for the higher tier cards i def need my mains

[gentle furnace]

hourly click soon

[lethal aspen]

higher tier cards i farmed on vman lol

and the godshard cards i just candied to gold and then cardified them

[junior dune]

And quite soon higher tiers can be farmed on everyone aswell

[serene flame]

prob a good idea but i'll need at least 100% eff on whatever im farming

[lethal aspen]

like fixing vman should be your highest prio

[junior dune]

Dust mote was mostly done by warriors for me

[serene flame]

so what exactly are my options here for getting higher eff

im at about 10mil out of 25 mil required for 100% chop chance

[lethal aspen]

alchemy/stamps/tools

idk if hand works with vman enhancement if ur levels not highest either

[serene flame]

it'll have to be a slow burn in alch it seems

[lethal aspen]

got an IE/toolbox link?

[junior dune]

How's your cooking?

[lethal aspen]

easier to jsut find all thats wrong lol

[serene flame]

great! got corn to level 32 iirc and my other stuff i think at 28 and 24

[serene flame]

yeah lemme pull up my IE stuff also get ready for the most neglected smithing tab ever i just really don't wanna farm points seriously

[lethal aspen]

ive seen worse smithings

[serene flame]

...right

[lethal aspen]

someone who didnt put material bags on any chars so their limit was real low lol

[junior dune]

As long as you've done half of W1 you're better than a lot of people

[serene flame]

... i have on SOME characters

guys

i literally forgot to equip skill efficiency card set

last name ever first name greatest

11 mil yay

https://solodude15.idleonefficiency.com/ don't judge please (ok maybe a little bit)

[lethal aspen]

whats that cooking spd starsign lmfao

[serene flame]

on vman? LMAO im glad you noticed

no clue what to put as a third option i literally just clicked a random one

it's multiplicative... i guess

oh you know it'd probably help to have put skilling food on my vman before updating my public profile you think

[lethal aspen]

oh u only need 86 choppin thats not too bad

give your vman your lustre axes on your bubos if he can use it

[serene flame]

good idea

[lethal aspen]

if you have the dungeon runs left go get a persephones necklace, gives 15% skill afk gain

chip doubles that to 30 but u dont have one

[serene flame]

im a ways away from affording one

need 2 more flurbos maxed for equinox prog

[lethal aspen]

your r40 i think shud be doable?

[serene flame]

i do have a dungeon run ready though i just am waiting for a time when happy hour is a time i can be on

[lethal aspen]

no idea how many flurbos u get per boosted HH run tho

[serene flame]

tbh i haven't ever made a dungeon card preset bc i don't wanna buy the third preset option

but i get a few thousand like maybe 5k

[lethal aspen]

well if its on give me a shout can help

[serene flame]

appreciaet it!

wow i spelled that right

[lethal aspen]

do you equip this on your dungeon char?

[serene flame]

probably should yeah i kinda forgor it exists

[lethal aspen]

yeah just keep it on perma lol, 40x ticket runs are nice

[bleak gazelle]

pretty normal for me

[serene flame]

i usually just run dungeons with my ES but i prob should run DK yeah

[lethal aspen]

@serene flame get your vman chopping boots. troll/magma gear will help too but more expensive

[serene flame]

totally forgot to equip b4 the public upload

troll is too expensive as of rn

[lethal aspen]

if youve done the idle skilling event then theres a skill eff hat too

[serene flame]

i couldn't get into IS. i didn't like how you didn't auto progress when offline

[lethal aspen]

this star talent is op, max it

[serene flame]

got through the desert but wasn't vibing with the slowness of the progression after one ascension

[lethal aspen]

I was today years old when I learned to read what vman does lol

I've never touched that bubo talent lmfao

[serene flame]

it def pales in comparison to the other one yeah

[lethal aspen]

free exp boost is free

[serene flame]

yeah but ain't it like really low

[lethal aspen]

no clue but my bubo has free points

[serene flame]

mine doesn't really unfortunately

[lethal aspen]

anyway lemme check your candy but i think u shud just spam them til your highest chopping

[serene flame]

ok got exp/hr up to 170mil and getting 123% afk gains rate with 16.5mil eff

[lethal aspen]

i dont think it'll take that many since u only need 15* levels

just use those 1 hr candies on it yeah

[serene flame]

caught me in the act haha

[lethal aspen]

also book the vman enhancement skill thing to 175 so it boosts right hand talent too. not a prio until your choppin is done tho

[serene flame]

not even taking a days worth of candies

[lethal aspen]

then your vman eff will 6x or something stupid

[serene flame]

damn ill need to reset my points then accidentally put max into the damage one instead of 25

[bright meteor]

More rift when?

[lethal aspen]

not bad 2nd book got me to 268 lol

[pliant ferry]

you still single book?

or just to do important base skills

[lethal aspen]

yeah, i only single

only thing i use 20x on nowadays is skill eff

[pliant ferry]

I do 20 + spares, since I normally have 23-24 books before I notice it

[lethal aspen]

yeah, i just leave a lot of shit unbooked so i just 1 book them all

[pliant ferry]

ah makes sense

[lethal aspen]

most talents dont scale well

[pliant ferry]

I was smart when I did my 1k achievement and got all at a decent level

[lethal aspen]

so its just like bleh its ok

[pliant ferry]

yup yup

[serene flame]

😈

[lethal aspen]

💪

you probably get a lot more at bamboo now too

and 90 choppin is enuff for godshard axe i think?

[serene flame]

a bit less than at logs

[serene flame]

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowhere close to godshard tools

thankfully dreadlo tools are shockingly easy to make

[lethal aspen]

dreadlo is pretty free, marble too iirc

godshard bars are gonna do your head in tho

[serene flame]

i just need to grind through the previous tools

[lethal aspen]

once you start giving vman love you'll love him more

[serene flame]

im already dead at just trying to grind out the stupid pearler shells lava loves putting in every craft

[lethal aspen]

chuck es/dk there for a day or so

i prefer dk since es desyncs like a mofo

[serene flame]

as an ES main, yes. yes he does

[lethal aspen]

at least he nerfed the shell cost

[serene flame]

THESE ARE NERFED?

[lethal aspen]

good ol w4 release with 200 shells for 1 set

[serene flame]

yayyyyyyyyy

[pliant ferry]

it was an early version of hampters 🤣

[lethal aspen]

the tools use to be like pick 20/axe 40/rod 60/net 80

[serene flame]

hampters 🫨

[lethal aspen]

at least w5 tools dont need hampters, imagine

[serene flame]

i shudder at the thought

[pliant ferry]

Still not as bad as doggie portal

[serene flame]

anyways i can probably go nuts sampling my stuff now for wood lemme see what oak logs are looking like

[lethal aspen]

imagine w7 portals

13 char lock

[serene flame]

dare i ask what this means

[lethal aspen]

you past wood spirits yet in w6?

[serene flame]

yes but im only on lanterns. low kph

[lethal aspen]

oh ur at lanterns, wood spirits needed 2 peepo to unlock it remember?

leeks is 4 and then we have skydoggies after 🙂

[serene flame]

hmm

my samples didn't go up a ton

went from 1 to 1.1 mil

on oak

[lethal aspen]

probably missing something there 😅

whats your eff

[lethal aspen]

oh for sampling log on logs is op, book it up

mate

you didnt cast log on logs

[serene flame]

CASTING MAKES A DIFFERENCE

I THOUGHT IT JUST MATTERED IF IT WAS ON THE HOTBAR

[pliant ferry]

speaking of

[gentle furnace]

only 122!!?

[pliant ferry]

I started on this early April. 4/2 or 4/4

[serene flame]

BRUH

4.7 MILLION

[lethal aspen]

and yours is lvl 100 too

[serene flame]

and my log on logs is only at lvl 150 (out of refreshes)

[lethal aspen]

logs on log is worth 20 booking to max when u can

[pliant ferry]

logs at 122 hurts

[lethal aspen]

but just spend any book for now lol

[serene flame]

tfw 8 million an hour

[bright meteor]

No wonder his atoms gain is low (Idh the context)

[lethal aspen]

yeah no wonder you had a 1m print as well before lmao

log on logs is one reason why oak prints are so much higher then copper too

[bright meteor]

Yes

[serene flame]

yeah bc the other one is hotbar only yeah

[bright meteor]

I always had the log maxed

[lethal aspen]

yeah it counts as an attack skill

[serene flame]

750k potty rolls lfg

[lethal aspen]

oh its HH time

[bright meteor]

Half a billion right now

[serene flame]

im not even resampling on my dudes yet until tmrw so i can max out logs on logs

oh my atom collider is gonna love my oak samples

dang it's gonna be even higher i forgot to swap back to lustre axe

[lethal aspen]

the fun of sampling and finding everything u forgor

[serene flame]

well thank you very much for the (checks notes) nearly 10x increase in sample

amazing that it was just like 20 hours of vman candy away. hopefully doing the same process for other skills is that fast too

[lethal aspen]

yeah with w5 candiable the exp rates just get better and better

[serene flame]

unfortunately don't have the dioxide synth available to give my vman the upgraded trekking boots but that 10% skill eff increase shouldn't be too damning

[gentle furnace]

did you equip slush and kruk obol

[serene flame]

yeah seems like it's gonna be a much longer process for mining. getting around 40 mil eff

[serene flame]

don't have kruk obol. do have slush equipped tho

[lethal aspen]

got afk info screen?

[serene flame]

w/ lustre pick and pants/trek boots

[lethal aspen]

🤔 guessing you dont have the stamp skill level nerf removal thing from sneaking yet

[serene flame]

isn't that like the first thing you get in sneaking

[lethal aspen]

no clue lol

[serene flame]

im pretty sure it is besides quickref

im currently on floor 7 lol

[rancid scaffold]

pog got kattle div with 1% roll

[lethal aspen]

well your mmans mining is so low so just candy it a bit anyway see what happens

[serene flame]

i gotta get > lvl 92

did ten hours and got to level 70

[lethal aspen]

u can use mining food and golden peanuts to get eff for godshard

theres a lot of food u can use so shudnt be that hard

hp food/minig speed/eff

[serene flame]

golden peanuts i should be using that's true

i have so few of them tho

i always forget to buy hotdogs

[lethal aspen]

w1 crystals drop them

[serene flame]

i don't think im really at a point dr wise to be farming crystals

especially with no choco chip

[lethal aspen]

just give it a go with dk

your non-existent hotdog stash will thank you anyway

try like 5-10 mins see if you have an ok crystal spawn chance first

[serene flame]

my crystal spawn rate is like 1/150

on my dk it's probably a bit lower like 1/120

[lethal aspen]

your genie card could use some work yeah

[serene flame]

tbh it's gonna take like 2 weeks of mining at the current rate to pass 92 which isn't terrible

[lethal aspen]

i mean just give it a go anyway and see

[lethal aspen]

should get faster as you level up and can use better tools too

[serene flame]

i forgot genie card existed lowkey

[lethal aspen]

and u can just spam godshard once its 100% for cards anyway

[frigid swift]

someday ill be good enough for godshard

[serene flame]

i think for now im gonna prioritize maxing other skills that are in a more easily feasible range for passing

[junior dune]

Alright I kind of went overboard and reviewed everything since I didn't have much better to do. It's actually better than most of the people I see here, but obviously a lot that can be improved as for everyone. May have written a bit much, but I think everything should be relevant quite soon. Also I haven't read the chat for a while so things may be redundant.

[serene flame]

bc i could probably reasonably easily pass both catching and fishing

[junior dune]

• Stamps, lots of low hanging fruit here. Multitool stamp is useful for all skills and I would go get a sample for that one.
• Anvil, even if you don't want to farm mats please buy the ones for money at least. Will drastically improve your anvil speed.
• Alchemy is honestly suprisingly good, but can obviously be improved a lot. I would check IE autoreview for priorities If you can I would get 1 godshard bar for +8% skill eff for everything from the vial.
• Some of the prints look old but that's the case for everyone. You can get real good monster material prints from vman by using void radius extra multikill in speedruns. That way you should be able to switch over yourr ES to printing logs
• Use your worship charge now. Tier 3 skulls should be easy enough to get. A few levels on skilled dimwit would give immediate efficiency gains
• Trapping looks good, upgrade traps when you can.
• Cooking is honestly quite good, but as for most people it would be easy to improve by giving the vman a max blood marrow book and lvling at least all meals requiring under 1 ladle. Your cooking speed may increase a thousand fold just doing that.
• You should be able to unlock the next two spices if you want to. Not the highest priority but it would help a lot for cooking since every meals helps diamond chef and blood marrow a lot. It isn't necessarily all that fun though and can be time consuming. Good work on your spice collection.
• Nice rift, getting skill mastery 300 on catching could be an objective since passive cards help with samples a lot. +5% skill efficiency at 500 should be reasonably easy for chopping and trapping.
• No comments on your divinity. Looking good.
• Same for sailing. I completly agree with your priorities as well.

[serene flame]

let's go ill take better than most

[junior dune]

• Looks like your understand your talents well and what is good. Symbols of the beyond is really good though and should have a book and be leveled for eveyone. You use significantly more than 20 skills on a character and it significantly helps the best skills as well.
• Farming a set of DR obols will help a lot. A lot harder without the choco chip but still a priority.
• If you don't know you can use the pens to refresh finished post office orders allowing you to complete a ton of them in one day. Clicking the shield with a pen will remove it so you can reset your streak and avoid the cost scaling. Getting your main skill box will help a bunch with samples and there are several good fighting boxes, including afk gains, decreased talent cooldowns and multikill.
• Your statues are low, but that is expected without the choco chip and drop rate. If you're not depositing because you've heard that you should save up until after you have all onyx and such I wouldn't do that yet. It is only really relevant for the crit statues you get from the onyx quest since all others can be farmed well.
• Your armor is legit better than mine in a lot of places and you seem to use food well. The speed pot as default is good, but I would add golden nomwitches as standard as well where you can afford it. I would get all tools for everyone even if it's just for the stats. It can be quite significant. Getting a few levels in all the skills will also give you a whole bunch of talent points.
• I think you are aware of the Checkout Takeout achievement. Nice progress on that!
• Good job on the cards, especially 4 star easy resources! I would consider getting the card dr cards to 4 stars. Chaotic amarok and chaotic troll would be good to improve as well. 2 stars on bosses and nightmares should be doable and help a decent amount.

[lethal aspen]

my eyes

[serene flame]

yo let's go

nah fr this is super helpful advice i really appreciate it

[lethal aspen]

golden nomwitches kinda mid i'd use golden kebabs

[junior dune]

Apparently it got so long discord didn't even allow it in one message, lol

[frigid swift]

i prefer golden fried chicken. honestly gives the best boost

[serene flame]

i seriously super appreciate it this is incredibly helpful info

thankfully most of this stuff is actually priorities I already had in mind so it seems like ive minmaxed decently well for a new player

[lethal aspen]

yeah your not doing too bad

[junior dune]

Yeah they are definitely better, but they are on the ES which seems like the main pusher

[lethal aspen]

just some mistakes that are thankfully fixable

[serene flame]

for now. i plan on replacing with DK eventually

[lethal aspen]

like even just 10 kebabs probably gives more than however many nomwitches he can use

since % vs flat

[serene flame]

yeah nomwitches are practically useless compared to kebabs for me

[junior dune]

A big strength pot should basically always be better than golden nomwhiches

[lethal aspen]

also nice thing for dmg is bullet craftables but im too lazy to make them

[serene flame]

on the topic of worship i know ive severely neglected getting my first 3 up higher than they currently are

and the answer for why i haven't done that is simply that it takes FOREVER

and even though i love the td mode i am really lazy sometimes

[lethal aspen]

just use the auto worship

[serene flame]

it would def superboost my first 3 soul gains which is why i actually haven't spent my charge yet

bc i plan on fixing that soon ™️

as for cooking i actually just today did all the 1-2 ladlers and am mostly maxed on blood marrow give or take 10 levels of talent library checkouts

oh also i 100% could unlock spices but i am HARD stuck on getting the required fighting power

[junior dune]

Blood marrow scales incredibly well and is probably the highest priority book to max, except tentecleye 200. Getting 10 extra levels could be several levels for all meals

[serene flame]

300 on catching is an immediate priority that i plan on doing asap. was just getting skill eff high enough for a few people to do equinox up to level 30

[serene flame]

noted. if it weren't for the... let's say eye-opening logs on logs revelation i would save up for 20 checkouts

[junior dune]

Yeah, do it when it's convenient, like I said your cooking is honestly quite good

[serene flame]

i recently tried farming dr obols and was struggling. was running about 2 dr silver obols per full inventory

think i need choco chip tbh

[lethal aspen]

tbh at your stage i'd just single book them equally first

boost your base prints before u try minmax

[junior dune]

Put nuke pets in the territory above or below. They multiply the fighting power by 1.5. For several terriroies my setup was one burger, fighters and the row above one forager and 3 nukes

[serene flame]

oh i had no clue it had foraging power i thought people just ran poop on everything bc they were trying to unlock rat and had spare high pet power LMAO

[lethal aspen]

i take it you stuffed up your refinery lol

[serene flame]

i read some reddit thread saying don't upgrade your refinery if you don't have the prints to do so so i literally didn't use the refinery upgrades until i hit w5

[junior dune]

Also have at least 1 mercenary in the territory since they give double fight power

[serene flame]

most useful r/idleon post

[lethal aspen]

[serene flame]

clearly i need to be reading up on what the fighting pets do in territories

[junior dune]

I didn't realize that there were special abilities in the foraging stage for a long time...

Like all I cared about was the numbers and not the type

My spice generation was immedietly 10x after realizing that

[lethal aspen]

in case you haven't realised already your ES should be printing logs too not monster mats

[serene flame]

let's go i just boosted smokey lake from 150k to 600k an hour thanks to being able to place 2 forages (borger and miamsa) with the increased fight power from tsar

[serene flame]

so funny story with this

since i main es i just... never really skilled with him

im aware now that he's supposed to be skilling but that's actually why i got 2 bubos

[sly cedar]

thanks for pointing out the blood marrow thing.
i just got fury yesterday and fully booked my bubo, hadnt done anything else

i just went from +37

to +150 cooking speed

by going from 100 to 165 blood marrow

time to ladle some meals i think and make that number go brrr

[junior dune]

It really is huge. I don't think many people realize how insane exponentials can be

Especially when the lava word for exponential is "multiplicative"

[pale crag]

I don't think many people don't understand maths

[serene flame]

is it really important for three dudes to have log prints? oh also yeah my prints are old on my chars i just need to resample once my vman has done the deed

or in other words what's the benefit of specifically ES doing tree samples over a bubo?

[junior dune]

I definitely don't understand lava math but do a lot of math irl

Log prints are mainly nice for atoms since oak logs are by far the biggest samples

[pale crag]

Atom gains

[junior dune]

Bubo and ES are the same for log prints

[serene flame]

fair enough

i was just thinking for the prints i need for refinery automation

wouldn't i need more guys (especially with two mining ones, two fishing ones, and a catching one)

[junior dune]

Speedrun prints should basically solve the refinery prints

[serene flame]

true

[junior dune]

And if you have a month worth of material it isn't really a big deal if you're not actively printing

[lethal aspen]

refinery is pretty easy to keep up anyway

[serene flame]

i'll need to do a whole new fighting preset and maximize as much as i can on multikill

[lethal aspen]

just have the sample there so u can vman brrr it if u ever run low

[serene flame]

im guessing best samples for vman are spores floof ploofs and gigafrog horns yeah

[lethal aspen]

for me the pain poitns for refinery are the critters and bars lol

[junior dune]

It's for a short period that refinery is kinda expensive when the cost there has started scaling but the samples haven't really

[serene flame]

ok just wanna thank yall for how much help y'all have been tn

really appreciate it

im a binding of isaac player so minmaxing is kind of in my blood and this game is literally minmax city population us

honestly like this game is really dope prob the most complex idle game ive ever played it's really something special

[lethal aspen]

go zow and chow

[junior dune]

No problem, I think it's really fun helping out. If it wasn't for others helping me I would be quite lost

[serene flame]

oh yeah last question - so 100mil kills on a blood barbarian is... well... let's just say somewhat ridiculous for my current prog

[short sparrow]

And sand

[lethal aspen]

thats a very late game thing

[serene flame]

yeah that's what i was gonna ask

[lethal aspen]

go for zow 100k or even chow 1m

[serene flame]

is it even worth the time before like late w6

[lethal aspen]

if you want to start cooking for ladles then u wanna chow first

[sly cedar]

finally! been waiting so long for this z.z

[lethal aspen]

super chowing only when u get maybe 5-10m/hr?

[junior dune]

It really is something special. I just wish it was a technically sound as the concept is good, but I won't do another missed potential rant today

[lethal aspen]

i just candied all my schows anyway

[serene flame]

i would argue it certainly lives up to its potential on most fronts. i think most irks people have with it have a lot more to do with subjective math issues (not subjective as in the issue existing, moreso how big of an issue it is for the general playerbase)

[lethal aspen]

whats irks most of us is companions

[serene flame]

oh yeah but im uhhhh not sure how much im allowed to disclose my opinions on that (dootless gang)

[bleak gazelle]

eh, if you can super chow in a day then that's good enough

so ~4m kph

[sly cedar]

yeah lava makes enough money off this game he should hire someone who knows how to actually code, and focus on game design which is his strong point lol

[lethal aspen]

i dotn think knowing how to code will fix this

[serene flame]

i think lava is very very good at being super intricate in how things connect and span across the entire length of a game

[lethal aspen]

isnt it made in stencil or some shit

[bleak gazelle]

i'll probably just finish up w1 schow then go do some other stuff

[serene flame]

the fact that every single skill is important at all times is super based

[junior dune]

There are a ton of weird things and understanding the game without help is basically impossible. A lot of ingame descriptions are just wrong and there are so many quality of life things that could easily be implemented. I really feel that if lava hired someone else so he can focus on design which is what he does best it could be so much better and something I would happily recommend to friends.

[bleak gazelle]

maybe see how many ladles i get so I can get this 100k achievement

[serene flame]

so what you're saying is this game is Terraria

[junior dune]

Lava has said that he doesn't want to hire anyone though so I guess that isn't happening

[serene flame]

... i have beef with terraria and how little it tells the player

[lethal aspen]

reminds me of anti idle

[junior dune]

I think terraria is a good comparison even though I'm not that familiar with it

[serene flame]

there are games that you just kinda have to play with a wiki

[lethal aspen]

i think this game is pretty heavily inspired by maplestory and runescape anyway

[serene flame]

runescape influence is very clear

[lethal aspen]

good ol childhood games

[serene flame]

on that front (also on the... let's just say tedious questing objective front)

[junior dune]

There are very few solo devs that can do everything really well. The only ones I can think of that really pulled it of on top of my head is like Chris Sawyer and Concerned Ape

[serene flame]

robtop, the creator of geometry dash

[sly cedar]

yesterday, i did happy hour, it used up 25 tickets instead of 20, and gave me the 20x drops correctly but then only gave me 1 dice with 0 multiplier, as if i had entered the dungeon with 0 tickets z.z

[serene flame]

kind of an all timer solo dev (concernedape might be better in terms of consistency between update length)

if you don't know geometry dash it kind of has the single most complex level editor ever put in a video game and he individually is responsible for watching and promoting over 40 thousand user made levels

[lethal aspen]

huh u sure u didnt have the 2x prayer on?

[serene flame]

lava is a pretty amazing solo dev tho shoutout solo devs everywhere

[lethal aspen]

would explain the 25 tix all gone

doesnt explain the bugged dice tho

[sly cedar]

yes, ive never once ever put that prayer on any character

[lethal aspen]

maybe u remembering wrong? idk

[sly cedar]

nah

im not remembering wrong

[lethal aspen]

i'd certainly be happy if he removed all my runs tho

so i can actually get rid of them lmao

[junior dune]

I played a bunch of geometry dash in 2015, don't know like anything about how it is now though. Perhaps I should have a look again

[sly cedar]

i wrote it in chat at the time that i only got one dice, i hadnt used any dungeon tickets this week before that, i specifically remember looking and seeing 25 before the run

i only got 2k flurbos from the run when we killed 4th frog

[junior dune]

Probably just lava not considering happy hour and that prayer together... I've seen others caution against using it since it's buggy. Never used it since I didn't know if it would be good.

[sly cedar]

even on a crappy 3rd frog run i get a lot more than that

[lethal aspen]

it works, i get like 20k flurbos a run with it at 40 tix

might be funny if you dont have the full 40 tix available tho

[high sand]

Did u get enough dice % from ur jewelry, cards and rng’s

[lethal aspen]

if you have boosted runs u get 3 base, so irregardless

[sly cedar]

for a happy hour run, you should get multiple regardless

also, yes, i had about 6 red dice rng, and i had extra dice % on all my jewelery

[lethal aspen]

I miss the dungeon events

[high sand]

Also sometimes when u do a happy hour it only takes 1-3 tickets for some reason

[lethal aspen]

3 tix if you've already done it for the week

and 1 if < 3 peepo probably?

[high sand]

Nah it just happens

When u do something, idk what tho

[sly cedar]

one book and about 100 ladles, my blood marrow has gone from 37% to 261%

noice

starting to actually take off

for the longest time it was only 1%

[junior dune]

Let's just say that it will take off

[sly cedar]

yeah

im looking forward to it

shelf 2 all diamond + =]

[sly cedar]

i just wish the diamond chef bubble was cheaper

[steep kiln]

Just make sure it's in nblb range

[sly cedar]

yeah

but theres only a 15% chance to proc it

[thorn kindle]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53680546472_dd8d5d1bdf_o.png this is an addiction I've learned.

[muted scroll]

oh yeah, when i got on this morning. i was able to atom again even though i did it yesterday. usally im able to atom around 2pm but idk why it did this mornin. didnt use a gold stopwatch, possibly desync

[lethal aspen]

if u want to check desync/reset check your shop reset times

[tall crater]

heyo guys, I'm doing worship w5 for achievement no Kraken
I won wave 50 without placing any kraken, after wave 53 I put 2 kraken
then I lose, then I did not receive achievement
must I not place kraken, reach 50 then lose?

[muted scroll]

yeah, mustve did

[steep kiln]

Did you level your Boron atom? That resets your daily uses

[muted scroll]

Nope, didnt had enough atoms for it

[sly cedar]

sounds like it

[steep kiln]

When I did the one for W6 yesterday I got the achievement as soon as I cleared the required wave so maybe there was another issue?

[lethal aspen]

it should trigger once u clear 50 afnyway

[tall crater]

idk, was it because of selling towers?

placed 2 lightning wizard then sell them

to get placeholder for kraken later waves xD

[naive sphinx]

Do you still need to drop items for the slab or does it now count things that go straight into your inventory?

[bleak gazelle]

It should be fixed for most everything (not sure about cash shop), but best practice to still drop it 🙃

[verbal acorn]

put emphasis on the beach docks spice by getting badumdums on the territories above and below and always use bargain tag

[sly cedar]

yeah, i do, still slow tho

i just unlocked shiny pets tho 🎉

time to get some infinite star signs going =]

do the breeding time procs from divinity give shiny progress? i noticed they dont give spice progress 😦

[steep kiln]

Yes, same with Vman enhancement for BM

[prisma snow]

What are the talents about divinity of es do

The god rank and 2nd god talent..

[junior dune]

God ranks you get when you continue divinity after getting all gods, don't worry about that one

Second god is like it says a way to link to 2 gods at the same time depending on the last digit of the talent lvl

Like if it ends with a 1 I think it links to the snake and a 2 to arctis

You need to have the relevant gods unlocked though

The tooltip tells you which god it tries to link to

[trim venture]

what should i prioritize maxing all the ships or focusing on artifacts first?

[sly cedar]

getting speed up will help you get to the later and better artifacts faster

so I'd say focusing on getting your ships better is a good choice

are the blue-gray captains with the anchors the highest tier of captains?

[lethal aspen]

check wiki

[echo gulch]

Guys i tried going for horn of foal on es but i am getting stuck on not finding the eye of grand frogger

Any good strats i can try for solo w1 dungeon?

[frigid swift]

yes. use DK 🙂

thats what i am always told

[echo gulch]

But the eye of grandfrogger doesnt drop guaranteed

Thats the problem for me

[frigid swift]

idk nothin bout that stuff. i havnt even done it yet myself. I was just always told to use DK

[lethal aspen]

get better drop rate

[muted scroll]

guh.. still no molten gloves recipe. i got the 500 hampters thats requied for it

[still apex]

Play it a bit slower. Get lots of grey rng items, with the droprate per grey item perk, get rabbits feet, maybe a couple green dice. The credit shop droprate should be leveled.
Only spawn what you need, just slow down.

[echo gulch]

Ohk

[pliant ferry]

😒

[sharp mauve]

Rounding moment

[olive gale]

can I afk divinity online? as I want to check my trap every 20 mins

[pliant ferry]

negative, and last I heard trap timer doesn't progress while at char selection screen

[olive gale]

so..it sounds I need to turn on and off my game every 20 mins if I want my shinnies...

[pliant ferry]

10 hr traps are bae

[abstract flume]

ok so who do i talk to for lost progress it wouldn't let me connect to server so i logged out and back in and i lost some cooking meals and artifacts

[pale jay]

You take the L and move on.
Even if it was recoverable, Lava is a solo developer, so he only personally addresses issues regarding 'real'-world-money.

[sharp mauve]

Someone wrote an angry Steam review bcs Lava took more than weeks to reply email 😔

[abstract flume]

well my motivation to play went down a ton then

[pale jay]

If your connection with the server goes bad your only option is to wait with the game open, as restarting pulls latest sync off the server.
Always log off via player menu to ensure sync succeeded.

[abstract flume]

can't when the game is stuck at trying to get my free pet for the week i tried to get to player menu nothing would work

[cosmic kiln]

is there an up to date snail calculator somewhere to give me best chance at snail 25?

[night locust]

someone sent it, idk if this good, im just following it

[cosmic kiln]

so 112 encouragement before trying to go for level 24?

[noble mesa]

Yep

[wide swallow]

guys when do i use time candies ?

[solar seal]

not sure if this is a troll question or legit. you use them to save time on something tedious

[wide swallow]

no i meant like the right momment to use them

do i use them 2 grind the maps of world 5 ?

im going thru it rn while divinity grind with my other 9

[night locust]

i use my candies for lvling my skills, pushing w5 maps, farming specific items on lower tier map, so its up to you when you want to spend it

like for ex. im candy alot of godshard card

[vestal knot]

Sup peeps.

Does multikill per dmg tier sources work in vman speed run? I can only assume... also any other tips??

[night locust]

yup it works

get the "max moving speed"

[wide swallow]

im using them 2 go thru w5 maps rn

[vestal knot]

Thanks dudeskii

[night locust]

ive watch some youtube video how to speed runs, nocturne gaming gives decent advice on that

[vestal knot]

Ahhh yeah nice one didn't know he was still uploading niceee

Oh no that was God who stopped

[night locust]

just dont spend it all, my rule is spend like 20% of my candies when "skipping with candies"

[wide swallow]

this is my stats is it worth it ? to use them

[night locust]

when you feel you can candy stuffs in a decent timeframe, like farming mats for your next weapon using 20candies,pushing map with some few candies , then yes

but if you feel it will take ages, then do another "task"

ive candied all my mats for anvil upgrades for ex.

[wide swallow]

i mean i could for my other chars they dont have there grey weapons excpet the DK nd BB but i thought the stat getting from w6 would be worth it

[night locust]

used it with my bb, for zow, chow

use dk for pushing w5

so you can start the w6 skills

[wide swallow]

thmy game of plan here is i want 2 ruch cuz in the next 2 months i wont be able 2 play alot so yeah

[night locust]

dk is very good for boss battle on w5

[wide swallow]

do they count ?

thats op lmao

[night locust]

yes, every afk claims, active farm counts

on the 2nd bb, if you got 2 bb

[wide swallow]

lmaoo i tried it and i was abt to come and ask u cuz it didnt count for me

so it only works on one if u have two of them ?

does the first one get the bonus ?

or like is it just a waste of character

[night locust]

2 bb will get the stats bunos, but only the kills on 2nd BB counts

[night locust]

here #patch-notes📝 message

[teal inlet]

just go web

use another tab and the game is closed

[bleak shore]

if ur not doin smthin on chars theres no point in havin the game running and when ur doing stuff on chars the timer continues

[manic loom]

What does it mean when it is written in toolbox, pet has passed shiny level threshold?

[abstract flume]

can lava restore lost sailing artifacts or do i have to get lucky and get my Ancient back

[junior arrow]

just means you pet has reached the level you set (or the default lvl5)

its a reminder to swap them out when you reach the level you want

[light sapphire]

hello

i'm pushing with bubo and i'm at stiltmoles with 28M damage is it possible that as soon as i reach the boss i can kill him?

and how much damage i'm going to need to kill him

[sly cedar]

Stiltmoles are a looong way from the boss, you will get a lot of levels by then

you should work on any damage sources you can get while you are pushing, 28m i dont think will be enough but you have time before you get there,
you need to be able to kill the moles that are on the map where kruks entrance is, before they can reach him, because they heal him

so long as you can do that, you can win the fight, it might just take a while. ive seen people say 100m, ive seen people say 40-50m, really depends on how fast you can kill the moles

[flat lily]

Does the roll the dice skill activate when you’re afk?

[abstract flume]

you can with 40m to 50m but i was a es so that may have helped me more

i had 45m damage when i killed him

[quiet pewter]

any advice on active bm? Im starting my shiny pet grind. wurms with a lot of respawn gear? do crystal kills count?

[rapid shale]

any active kill counts, but yes wurms with respawn should be solid

[quiet pewter]

ah, so i should also be running a crystal farming build?

[rapid shale]

ye, definitely helps

[sly cedar]

wait, active BM helps level shinies faster?

[quiet pewter]

with the vman buff yes

[sly cedar]

oh, i see

[quiet pewter]

thanks!

[sly cedar]

i havent got enough talent points in that skill yet to get the bm buff

hmmm

time to start trying to priotitise speedrun progress i guess

[quiet pewter]

a decent speedrun can help in a lot of places, vman tab4 has some crazy good stuff

[sly cedar]

yeah, im gonna need to level my vman

he's too weak rn, well i have enough skill levels for magma tools so i guess i dont need him skilling rn anymmore

[quiet pewter]

you probably know already, but you can jump him all the way to the highest map you have just by starting a speedrun, so pretty easy to level him

[sly cedar]

good point

[tough osprey]

why am i so weak killing the final boss

[light sapphire]

missing damage and maybe ur using a bad class for it?

[tough osprey]

i am using a level 350 ish DV

[light sapphire]

what your damage at?

[tough osprey]

i cant post my screen shots???? and i have 80.885 m to 112.255m damage

[light sapphire]

you can't kill krunk with a 112M with a DK?

[tough osprey]

nope XD i get to 95 boss health then he starts healting even with my statue dude down clearing them

[grave tundra]

That’s crazy I beat krunk with a 30 mil es

[tough osprey]

what class?

[grave tundra]

Elemental sorcerer

I was only like level 240

[tough osprey]

hmmm let me re try then

[light sapphire]

where u hitting megacrit?

[tough osprey]

yes

oh you mean him llol

[grave tundra]

No

I only had like a 40 percent crit chance

[light sapphire]

es is so op then

[grave tundra]

Yep

Because of the lightning barrage

It deals like 2000 percent damage

[tough osprey]

OK NVM i just beat it XD

[light sapphire]

congrats

[sly cedar]

yeah i was gonna say it should be easy with that damage on dk

[grave tundra]

Major dubs

[sly cedar]

i beat it with much less damage on a dk i think

[tough osprey]

idk why my dude was struggling so much

ok next question how do i buy more farm land io dont see a table for it

i am so fking stupid dont ansewr that

[sly cedar]

wait

when you start doing w6 skills

make sure to follow the questline

dont do anything before you have done it in the quest

just do what he says at first

[hollow oyster]

damn u need lvl 240?!?!?! so i need to get 140 lvls?

[verbal acorn]

the exp rates get crazy in w5

[sly cedar]

its easy to get to that level by the end of w5

[hollow oyster]

oh ok

[verbal acorn]

youll find that youll just get to 240 on the way

[sly cedar]

you get really good exp

[hollow oyster]

thats good to know

[gentle furnace]

You can kill boss at any level as long as you have enough dmg

[hollow oyster]

hhow mnuuch damage needed for bb

[verbal acorn]

Don't

use a dk or an es

[gentle furnace]

Bb is top 2 hard class for kruk

[verbal acorn]

beaten only by the v of the man

[hollow oyster]

wow till now i ve done all boses on barb or bb sop i guess i need to change my main

[gentle furnace]

Barb is only good till w4

[verbal acorn]

bb is bad for active play

[hollow oyster]

i used barb till w4 then upgradded to bb

[verbal acorn]

did you upgrade your other nuggets

[hollow oyster]

what are nuggets

[verbal acorn]

your guys

its just my surname for the little guys we control

[hollow oyster]

not rly my bb is 160 and the rest are 100

[verbal acorn]

give them elite classes

[hollow oyster]

i have 1 of each elite

[verbal acorn]

and then push on either a divine knight or an elemental sorcerer

[hollow oyster]

ok

which do u suggest es or dk

[verbal acorn]

personally i did it on es

[hollow oyster]

ok

i think for now imma catch up on my skills and then get all maps in w4 and then do w5

btw what s a goldn nugget

[verbal acorn]

dug up by the shovel import from gaming

it multiplies bits

[hollow oyster]

ok and how do i get more bits other than dk talent

[verbal acorn]

sailing, bubbles, plant evolutions, meals, a lot of stuff

[hollow oyster]

ok

[tough osprey]

@sly cedar i am lol

[rotund trail]

what's the best (non-skilling) way to farm 100K statues on each char (Monolith quest)

[lone marten]

Interesting.. when can i get the green bits?

my cooking gonna be better with this

[tough osprey]

i need that green stuff too lol

[bleak gazelle]

colored bits are just more bits, ie Q/QQ/QQQ etc

[tough osprey]

oh yikes

[lone marten]

Ah dang it i just get to Half a Q

[bleak gazelle]

they change color once you reach 1,000,000,000,000,000,000(1QQ) for that tier.

from the wiki

[lone marten]

Ah dang..

Gonna need to level more of these bits bits

[sly cedar]

you need to get a good nugget before you can move on to green bits

[lone marten]

I just still on 400x

[sly cedar]

i upped my nugget today by just under 10x
from 2.7k to 18k

[lone marten]

2.7k do you get green bits?

[steep kiln]

Having lots of achievements completed and talent booking the DK bits per gaming level is a good start. Other then that, try and work on equinox for the shovel upgrade

There's also 2 meals I think that give bit multi

[lone marten]

And im still diamond/purple my first tab lmao

[bleak gazelle]

This includes a few non related ones, but should be all the bit gain related things
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=bit

[lone marten]

Yey ty, really need the bits

[bleak gazelle]

behold

do i get to cry now?

[lone marten]

Silly snail

[bleak gazelle]

ayo another nuggie upgrade??

that's the 4th one in a week

[lone marten]

Hmm seem i gonna focus up nuggets, is nuggets the early helper than the other object?

[steep kiln]

Nuggets is super random and without the equinox upgrade it is super unreliable. Just focus on all external sources of bits and then working on upgrading base value/speed and things like shell

[tough osprey]

how do i untie my 2nd dude in sneaking do i search teh floor hes on or the one below it

[lone marten]

What part of equinox that helped shovel?

[steep kiln]

Equip a kunai, if you don't have one you'll need to find one on the third floor I think

[bleak gazelle]

should be on the floor he's on, you'll find kunai

[tough osprey]

do i have to openb teh dooe on teh end first?

[bleak gazelle]

no, doors are just to go up a floor

[tough osprey]

ok

[bleak gazelle]

just rng to kind a kunai on that floor

[lone marten]

Oh i see that gonna take a while as i need to finish all task to get that buff

[steep kiln]

Yeah, but it's a massive game changer. I got mine earlier this week and went from ~20k nugget for the past month or two to ~200k

[bleak gazelle]

9k to 145k for me

with some stops along the way

[lone marten]

Gonna take a while though, i gonna do some task, that gonna waste my time

[steep kiln]

Don't know how close you are to it but I saved for a few days to buy the 5Q upgrade for MSA bits and it was a massive upgrade

[bleak gazelle]

i literally just unlocked snail
maybe next week or so

that means I need to go work on TD now though

[steep kiln]

This was the difference before and after unlocking it

[bleak gazelle]

first row of page 2 done for now

pretty sure I can boost most of these

[sly cedar]

bruh you definitely can boost those lol

[steep kiln]

Yeah takes a bit but I went back and did it and got 100+ on all but the last two pretty easily

[sly cedar]

mine are better lol

[bleak gazelle]

yeah but do I want to?

do I reeeeally want to TD?

[sly cedar]

yes, you do

[steep kiln]

Think of the jade gain

[bleak gazelle]

I love TD, but not in idleon, it's such shit

[sly cedar]

more souls, more food, more damage, more jade

[bold sage]

Do multiple mantra users at the same time share exp correclty, or does that get broken somehow?

[wheat berry]

Almost done for Voidwalker

[sly cedar]

yeah idleon td is terrible but you just need to get it done once

[steep kiln]

It gets way too laggy at high levels

Like at 110 I just spawned the entire 10 waves and wait till the lag clears to see if I win

[bleak gazelle]

once? you mean like 400 times whenever you get an upgrade

[sly cedar]

lmao

nah like once every major upgrade

i just wait til i can increase by like 20 levels

but you should be able to get 110 plus on a bunch of those in one go

assuming your towers are better upgraded than mine, i already have 100 on a bunch of em, and i dont have poisonics leveled high enough to use yet, i got that with like lvl 35 boulders

[tardy plinth]

Do you have to get the cape on each character individually for it to count for the quest?
cause I have the cape but it isn't showing as checked on the quest

[bleak gazelle]

100?

[sly cedar]

yeah i think that means get the drop, not just have the cape

yes u can get to 100 easy on at least a few of em

[bleak gazelle]

no, i literally can't

[sly cedar]

why not?

[bleak gazelle]

because i'd need to pump my carbon atom and unlock construction mastery 🙃

my max tower level is 56 atm

[latent stream]

does mantra exp give it to toons not on the altar, also does it give it to active players?

[gentle hamlet]

Mantrs gives it to every other chsr

[rapid shale]

mantra will distribute xp to all ur chars when you log into the char that has mantra equipped

[gentle hamlet]

So 10 toons on altar get 9 mantra xp

[rapid shale]

its all characters

[sly cedar]

i did this with most of these towers about 3-5 levels lower and no carbon atom

[bleak gazelle]

oh, derp, i thought you meant tower level 100

[sly cedar]

oh yeah, no, i mean wave 100

[latent stream]

oh thats tiggt

tight

[bleak gazelle]

i was so confused, wondering how you got your towers so much higher than me

[latent stream]

soni can have afew toons doing other stuff

[sly cedar]

lmao

wait, you dont know about super-trimmed slots? with 100x build speed?

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, i've got 3 of them

still takes a while to bump these towers up though

[sly cedar]

tru tru

i wanna get more trimmed slots tbh, only have 1

max is 3 right? with all the blue gems, and the atom?

tomorrow, i will make all my tools and resample

hold me to that xD

ive been putting off resampling way too long

i can prob get 10x my current samples on a couple chars

or at least 5x

i unlocked shinies today so at least i wont have to worry about star sign switching so much soon

[rapid shale]

we always find a reason to put off resampling

[sly cedar]

yeah

[bleak gazelle]

having doot would make sampling just a bit easier

[sly cedar]

ive been telling myself once i get enough green salt to make chars their own tools instead of swapping em round, ill get better with it

[bleak gazelle]

[sly cedar]

oh yeah it sure does

[junior dune]

Yeah you will start trying to resample and then just spend 5 hours doing last minute upgrades

[sly cedar]

still find excuses tho lmao

[junior dune]

But if your samples are that bad you really should do a quick resample at least

Just food and cards basically

[sly cedar]

yeah, i should

i will do a proper sample on all chars tomorrow

i can get the 1 million sample cloud now im sure

[daring phoenix]

took this from the talent guide. how do i know which spellbar should i use while CC farming?

[bleak gazelle]

just use 2

[rapid shale]

1 is spooky

[daring phoenix]

ok lol

no chemical warfare?

[rapid shale]

chem warfare only on maps with a ton of platforms

but I dont reccomend

[daring phoenix]

yea i'm farming at citringes lol

[rapid shale]

def not then

[daring phoenix]

i felt it was good, specially because the guide tells me to max book it

[rapid shale]

fart cloud damage is based off chem warfare

[daring phoenix]

ohhh

really?

[rapid shale]

yes

[daring phoenix]

i thought it just dealt more damage on already poisoned mobs

[rapid shale]

fart cloud spawns the same cloud chem warfare does

[daring phoenix]

got it

thanks guys

just one more question, should i book the fart cloud too then?

[rapid shale]

at some point, it makes the cloud it spawns last longer

[tough osprey]

prob a dum,b questing is the only way to upgrade atrifact to spend irl money

[bleak gazelle]

just send boats to the same island again

at least for ancient form. for eldritch form you'll need to unlock them in Rift first, then send boats again 🙃 and for sovereign, you'll unlock those in w6 jade emporium...and send boats again

[tough osprey]

i haev no clue how to do rift all my dudes cant even kill the 500 slimes XD

[nocturne isle]

does magma killer ring impact establishing order among molekind? the quest where you have to kill like 6mil of them? or since it's not portal/deathnot it doesn't matter?

[bleak gazelle]

more damage, more move speed, active respawn abilities

[short sparrow]

So is w2 solo dungeon the same general idea as w1? Coin flip -> horn?

[tough osprey]

is rthere a stamp for re spawn rate?

[gentle furnace]

soon

[raw coyote]

When does the blood marrow talent start to get good?

[main tulip]

How do I get other color bits?

[gentle furnace]

after you get 1000Q of the colour you're at

[bleak gazelle]

don't think you need it. definitely helps so the boss doesn't take 10 years to kill, but there's no timer on boss stages, just the minigames

[sly cedar]

around about 500 total meal level, it starts actually doing something, im at about 700 and have it booked to 170 and its just starting to take off at a decent pace

[junior remnant]

What are the bonuses to artifact find chance I’ve been trying to get eldritch fury for like over a year and I would really like to get it finally

[main tulip]

1000Q?!

[bleak gazelle]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=artifact find

[icy stone]

how do I link to a second god

[bleak gazelle]

Assuming you're on an ES using the talent
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[hollow oyster]

hi guys i need help with something quick :what does plunder ye deceased talent from sb(the one with plundurous kills) do cuz it s says something abt autoloot and respawn mobs

[fervent yew]

it enables plunderous mobs (spawned from the pirate flag talent) to give you a buff that causes mobs to drop skeleton coins which adds to your pirate flag, and this is what it uses to spawn mobs faster (auto loot counts for the skeleton coins only)

[hollow oyster]

but my skeleton coins don t get autolooted

[fervent yew]

sounds like a bug, mine do even if i turn auto loot off (they just take a long time to auto loot)

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, i've noticed sometimes they'll take a while to pick up the first few, so I manually do it then the rest are fine because i have enough banked up

[random salmon]

gaming scaling is still glacial...
am i really supposed to just... not spend bits for 6 months straight in order to get the next unlock?
like, i'm getting maybe 100m green bits in a week, probably less, the next unlock costs 2b (so basically 20+ weeks), and every upgrade costs 10+m at this point, and does basically nothing to improve that rate

like i've already been stuck at this rate for over 6 months

[lime fractal]

hey w5 TD i keep getting boned by the purple ones pushing thru kraken early, what can i do? using pancake's guide nd not working

[quiet pewter]

why is there purple ones, are you not using void?

[rapid shale]

not really, there are a ton of bonuses that gives bits, like slab, MSA, Achievements, generally pushing the base plant value, working on seashell, getting better sailing artifacts. Unlocking chem will make things faster. Shovel can help once you get the equinox bonus for bigger max nugget from clicking shovel

shouldnt take 6 moths

[random salmon]

slab is already at 1860%
MSA does not give bits,
i do not have available achievements that give bits
plant base value costs 12m per level
seashell costs 19m per level
sailing artifacts have been screwing me over for 6 months, the other cloudy quay one is ancient, but the bits one isn't unlocked yet
i have chem unlocked
shovel has also been screwing me over forever, and i have like 4 more equinox things to go before i get access to that equinox bonus

[rapid shale]

MSA does give bits later on

[random salmon]

yes, and i've done the highest runs i can make last wednesday,

[rapid shale]

Work towards equinox if youre able to. Thats when I saw fat gaming gains due to nugget. Ive only been in w5 for 8ish months and almost have the last gaming bit unlocked

also all achievements give gaming bits

[tough osprey]

equinox is hard for me lol idk how to do the boss difficulties and i am stuck i need green stacks

[rapid shale]

its exponential too so for me it is 1.03^236 = 1.08k

also some cooking bonuses

[random salmon]

yeee, about that...
i'm not exaggerating when i say i've been stuck here for 6 months

[rapid shale]

how often do you do sailing claims?

[random salmon]

not super often anymore but for a long time i claimed them pretty much every hour or two

[rapid shale]

well with w6 summoning bonuses your arti chance shoud skyrocket and you can go back to 2 hour claims especially with beanstalk hampters. other than that all i can say is do equinox so you can get a way better nugget

[random salmon]

beanstalk hampters, are you joking 😂

i'm nowhere near having the beanstalk unlocked

[rapid shale]

it sounds like you dont do a whole lot of active, but id reccomend atleast doing 10k gold hampter farm so you can get a ton of sailing claims

soon then

[random salmon]

imean... i have a job 😂

[stone stag]

Can you please help to get more dmg on DK and kill boss ?

Playing Idleon only for 2 months and today a pushed w5 with my DK. Now my DK is dealing 17-30m and i cant kill boss and get to w6. Is there any fast way to do it ? Thanks.

https://areliter.idleonefficiency.com/

[rapid shale]

fair, Im in classes most of the day, but I leave my game running. Cant really help you there

[junior dune]

I can immediately say that you should use the talent library to upgrade damage giving talents

[zinc torrent]

Which DK are you pushing for W6 with? arliteL or arliteM? Or both?

[junior dune]

Presumably M since they have much better gear

[zinc torrent]

I'll go with the second one then.

What also stands out to me is that neither DK is equipped with Combat-suitable Cards.

[junior dune]

Honestly if you managed to get to the boss on that dk you should be able to get the damage from just changing cards, star signs and give it a big damage potion and some golden kebabs

[wheat berry]

About to get my voidwalker.. is there a good guide on how to distribute skills, and how they work in general?

[zinc torrent]

https://gameslikefinder.com/article/idleon-voidwalker-build-guide/

[wheat berry]

Bless u

[junior dune]

Just fyi but a lot of vman skills will be quite trash at first if you don't have enough meals/skill lvls/character lvls even if they get real good later

[whole vine]

Hey I have atom collider and 20m logs and turned it on but I didn't get a particle... How do you make one? I have it set at 15m right now

[junior dune]

You need 25 m logs for it to make one at 15m I believe

It makes sure there's 15m left

[ocean lily]

with doot, is the lab + div setup anything other than just planting your dude in lab and selecting highest div stance youve got?

[whole vine]

It looks like I'm not getting any more logs in my stash, does it store somewhere else or something?

[zinc torrent]

It's definitely a long-term project; players should be working on a bunch of other areas in addition to VMan, before being able to see significant impact from VMan

[zinc torrent]

Depending on what you have the Atom Collider set at, you won't accumulate more than a certain quantity of an item.

[eternal ruin]

Poigu's quest is to be level 25 divinity. Is that account, or the character you accept the question on?

[zinc torrent]

Character; individual divinity level

[eternal ruin]

Is divinity candyable?

I haven't tried lol

[icy pulsar]

no

[strong shale]

what mobs are good for farming obol frags?

[zinc torrent]

No town skills can be leveled with Candy; some can be leveled with Balloons and Pearls

[zinc torrent]

Crystal farming in W2 with Divine Knight, for the Gold LUK Obols.

Best maps include Sandy Pots, Sandcastles, and Tysons

The easier-to-farm Silver Obols can also add fragments at a good pace

[strong shale]

sounds good, ill get my 1m kills done there after i plat gigas

sike, gonna go there now

[river quail]

does increased loot value, increase the loot from the island (loot pile) i get or is it only artifact related

will i get more of this loot with that character?

[simple wadi]

It's gold and resources only. Doesn't affect artifact chance.

[simple wadi]

Yes, you will get 20% more gold or resources from chests that sailor brings in.

[whole vine]

so where do the resources go then? do I just lose them?

[zinc torrent]

There is a bonus called Artifact Find Chance, which is the one that pertains specifically to Artifacts.

However, Sailing is mainly a numbers game; Boat Speed and Loot Value are the two boosts to look for in Captains.

Boat Speed is more important earlier on; Loot Value is always useful, but overtakes Boat Speed in importance later on

[zinc torrent]

They get converted to Atoms, dropping your resource quantity accordingly.
10M of a resource = 1 Atom.

With the settings you described, you are limited to 25M of a resource, before a conversion to Atoms drops you back down to 15M

[whole vine]

okay I have stacks of 25m in my stash right now and the atom collider is on and i am not getting a particle though

does it only happen on reset?

or do i need to unlock something else?

[zinc torrent]

The game uses truncated rounding, and sometimes the Atom Collider doesn't trigger instantaneously.

I wondered about this when I was new to Atom Collider; I resolved it by leaving and reentering the map.
If that doesn't work, try cloud save or switching characters

[whole vine]

ok im gonna leave it on and see if it fixes itself with me just printing more for the next couple of hours if it's a rounding issue

[sage zealot]

i'm guessing DK gaming skills don't stack?

i mean those

[quiet pewter]

none of those type of tab 4 skills stack. for global ones it will take the highest

also, those ones are not global, so im less sure what you are trying to stack it with

[faint yew]

Can someone link there ie who just got to 1 billion log sample? Struggling to see where the extra 400 mil comes from

[sage zealot]

i thought they were global and having 2 dks level those skills at the same time would give me the bonuses

for both

[quiet pewter]

unfortunatly not

[sage zealot]

what about siege breaker's sailing skills?

those are global right?

but still don't stack

[quiet pewter]

yeah

[sage zealot]

thanks

gotta change my skills up now

[quiet pewter]

wait the sailing one? sorry i dont think thats global

was thinking of the DR one

[sage zealot]

middle one is for all characters at least

[quiet pewter]

most skills you need to be on the correct charcter for. like you wouldnt assume a warrior mining buff is global right?

[sage zealot]

fair enough

this one is gonna sound REALLY stupid but symbols of beyond only boost that character's skill levels right?

the +1 every 20lvl talent

[quiet pewter]

yes

and the family bonus one is also chacter specific. the one thats end of the second row of talents

the globals tend to say "all characters" so its clear from the text ( although a couple of vamn ones forget to say)

[sterile vault]

woo finally 😄

[tough osprey]

WHY DOES MY DUDE suck at sneaking i have a 27% detection rate and ever time i open it my dude is knowed out

[gilded sedge]

Maybe he's rly tired and just wants to sleep

[strong shale]

https://i.imgur.com/OOOQ4K3.png

:[ not even close

[simple wadi]

You'll get there.

[quiet shoal]

How does artefact work, I mean do I have to choose one or anything or I just have the bonus on everyone when i unlock a new one ?

[simple wadi]

They're all passive. As soon as you find one, it's active on all chrs.

[lethal aspen]

spotted a wild lava

[still apex]

You get the bonuses on everyone for each you have.

[junior dune]

Do you use xp gears? That is the meta since there is a bubble increasing build rate based on lvl. You will get much more br with xp cogs

[quiet shoal]

Okay thanks

Can you have the same artéfact multiple time for bonus ?

[lethal aspen]

theres 4 tiers of artifacts you can get for 4x the boost

all rng

[still apex]

You can get them again at a lower chance

[quiet shoal]

Ohh okay

[still apex]

3rd tier is from rift and 4th is from w6

[simple wadi]

You can find tiers of them when you've unlocked each tier (for example, tier 4 is unlocked through stealth). But otherwise, no you can't find like 32 of the same artifact. It's one and done.

[frigid swift]

je baited

[simple wadi]

I had three in a row today hit this peg and then went straight left the rest of the way.

[frigid swift]

thats what you get for slacking off on my review for my dating profile. lol

[simple wadi]

[pliant ferry]

🤨

[frigid swift]

5-6k more w5 statues and ill be done with w5 onyx.

[wanton locust]

what goes in this slot?

[hybrid halo]

Nothing yet

[wanton locust]

thank you

[hybrid halo]

Wonder what it will be, assuming the slot will be used at some point

[junior dune]

Premium slippers displayed on your character

[hybrid halo]

Nice!

[junior dune]

Probably with insanely op bonuses and bought with red gems

No that is just speculation from me

[hybrid halo]

Not nice.

[oak tartan]

Just recently unlocked the snail in gaming. It's insane! x8 at level 3

[junior dune]

It just doubles at every level, right?

[oak tartan]

No idea. But just saying that I'm getting a huge amount of bits now lol

[junior dune]

I really should get the snail soon, but I don't think I will before getting equinox nugget upgrade

[hybrid halo]

Probably, each level, especially early on are huge boosts.

[still apex]

What level is the shimmer island star talent book? 100?

[fallow aurora]

200

[still apex]

Alright, thanks

[simple wadi]

Lava is from southern California, so probably a drag queen bolo.

Complete with makeup.

[bleak gazelle]

tail slot, obvs

[simple wadi]

That's a pretty good guess, actually.

[frigid swift]

oh gods please no tail slot

[simple wadi]

Prepare thy lube.

[frigid swift]

atleast take me to dinner first

[simple wadi]

I made you 1.75e40 Turkey a la Thank.

I hope it's enough.

[frigid swift]

well i do like turkey

[junior dune]

I have 8.16e28 eggplants if you prefer

[frigid swift]

who chooses eggplant over turkey!

[junior dune]

I mean they give a nice breedability boost

[frigid swift]

no comment.

[junior dune]

I swear this chat is usually not this bad

[frigid swift]

we talking bout cooking skill

[junior dune]

Yeah, obviously

[hybrid halo]

I'm always cooking turkey, only swap meals when I level them with ladies

[frigid swift]

gotta save them ladles for the 100k cloud lol

[hybrid halo]

Already did

Just always did it like that

[clear topaz]

what is the purpose of Pong? i just unlocked it and i keep getting higher and higher score, but does playing it have any benefits, besides unlocking the achievement at 25000 points?

[frigid swift]

It gives a bit multi

[junior dune]

A quite bad bit multi

[bleak gazelle]

0 stars game sucks, basically

[clear topaz]

ok. maybe i need the first level to get anything...

I already know Pong will drive me mad.

[bleak gazelle]

there's some tricks to it, every time the ball hits a paddle it speeds up, this speed carries over to new rounds. so you want to try and hit it with the tip of your paddle to try and win rounds in 1 hit. new rounds award many more points than volleying back and forth

but still hella rng and fuck these minigames

[hybrid halo]

Levelling Pong does nothing

[bleak gazelle]

best to do it while chilling in town, but I also hit 21k while active ES farming when I accidentally started a game

[hybrid halo]

Freaking squirrel camping on the pong thingy

[bleak gazelle]

but worked out for me since it was double my last high score, so got a small multi increase, at least

[strong shale]

should i work on my 20 greenstacks post vman?

[clear topaz]

Edit: I saw it now. Also, yes f the mini games.

[bleak gazelle]

you'll make some pretty good progress getting your 1m deathnote kills, w1 mats should be pretty simple after you do that

[strong shale]

fair

i could go for further skulls

[bold geyser]

Man these dice obols are driving me crazy

17% pass rate, failed over 40x in a row now

[sly cedar]

yeah man, obols can be so frustrating sometimes

[bold geyser]

skill issue for su re

[sly cedar]

usually i have good luck with obol joining

but in last couple days i lost a lotttttt of fragments for minimal gains

like 100 fragments, for 2 successful bronze obol reroll and 1 succesful silver combination

[bleak gazelle]

that's when i switch out the dice, so the naughty ones get obliterated

[verbal acorn]

for the 150 siege breaker flag achievement, do i need to deactivate the vman enhancement talent?

the one that makes a plunderous mob spawn at 100 coins at the cost of 25 coins

[rapid shale]

indeed you do

[verbal acorn]

unfortunate

[rapid shale]

are you maxed on both presets?

[verbal acorn]

yeah

[rapid shale]

i c

[verbal acorn]

the vman talent is usually so useful i just maxed it on all his presets

[rapid shale]

fair, I just have one preset I use when afk and the other wehn speedrunning

[old ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1219926592504070185/1231927319233302568/pozyomkers.gif

[unborn vigil]

The minimum time omniphau's bonus displays is one hour, but if you're under that, say 20 minutes, does it give one hour bonus to the Refinery, sailing, etc or is it only 20 minutes?

[verbal acorn]

its just your exact afk time

if you afked 20 mins, youll get a 20 min bonus

if you afked 1h and 13m, youll get a 1h13m bonus

[soft patio]

I got the no praying upgrade in gaming just now. Is it on purpose that it doesn't work with giant mobs?

[sly cedar]

yes

it says no curses, giant mobs are also a curse.
and,
what if you used up your giant procs when you werent wanting to?
it keeps the choice on purpose

[sterile vault]

sweet 10 sets done

[sly cedar]

grats

[stoic silo]

lesgo

[quiet pewter]

there is almost no situation where no prayers will be useful, its generally never used

[junior dune]

Also it's apparently buggy and can sometimes stop prayers from working for other characters until you change your prayers again

[zinc torrent]

how long and gib me

[lethal aspen]

rip your all stat%

10 kruks is not a good idea frends

[junior dune]

They will probably be upgraded to marbiglass quite soon since those recipes aren't that bad and then that issue is solved

[lethal aspen]

big IF there, but yeah marble pretty easy

hes ruined his prints for the meantime anyway

[junior dune]

Also the mob respawn is real nice for SB, I think chest and legs may even be bis for gmush

[quiet pewter]

so where do you think hoops will be in the game

[lethal aspen]

doubt it godshard exists

[junior dune]

My best guess is the secret mine portal

[lethal aspen]

would think the mk per tier is better

[quiet pewter]

especially if you can hit dmg cap without better armour

mk caps at 52x

[quiet pewter]

oh that would be dope, underground b-ball

[junior dune]

I'm not sure, may be right but there are way more sources of mk than respawn

[viral python]

whats minimum dmg to defeat w5 boss?

[lethal aspen]

hoping you wont need godshard for w6 boss gear cos it'll probably take over when it drops

[quiet pewter]

the more mk tier you have the worse an extra one is anyway, so at some point afk%/ respawn will beat it. like tier 40 to 39 is just a 40/39 = 2.5% increase (slightly less since theres also base)

[quiet pewter]

minimum is technically enough to one shot a mole, but that would take a long ass time

[viral python]

yeah well im really stupid i pushed my dk and his dmg is low or my dmg is low anyway

and i am struggling to find ways yo upgrade dmg :/

[lethal aspen]

have you tried the boss? dk is the easiest to do him imo

[viral python]

yeah

[lethal aspen]

alchemy/stamps/cooking/div/lab etc

plenty of ways

[quiet pewter]

i mean at least dk is a class that can afk the boss, his statue should take care of the moles

[viral python]

i dont one shot moles though

[lethal aspen]

if you can 2 shot it shud be enough time idk?

[quiet pewter]

ouch, then you are no way near doing the boss

[viral python]

lol

[lethal aspen]

you expect too much of people who just candy w5 lol

or they spend 100 hrs on 1 portal and think thats ok

[viral python]

i could probably do it with es but i ddint push portals with him yet

[quiet pewter]

alchemy is almost always the solution to the problem btw @viral python but also worth checkign you dont have any easy gains in leveling dmg cards

[viral python]

yeah i got decent cards

[quiet pewter]

check your alchmy out then

[lethal aspen]

can show screenshot? define decent

[viral python]

little bit of p2w

[quiet pewter]

no giant poop?

[lethal aspen]

where dr def* and citringe card

[viral python]

i only got a base big poop card

i forget to do daily poop :/

[lethal aspen]

don't forget your daily poop or you get constipation

[quiet pewter]

sir, i am going to have to ask you to retract this statment

[lethal aspen]

all stat%/main stat should be better then weapon power cards in w5 i think

how your card sets/star signs?

[viral python]

my star signs....

[lavish cypress]

hey guys, im mid W5 and doing the divinity/lab grind. I also want to unlock vman. how benieficial is it to focus on unlocking him (all chars on W1-3 deathnote) compared to leaving everyone on altar and only 1 active pushing deathnote?

[lethal aspen]

do they exist

[viral python]

nope