#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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did you max all your your mana talents? this one too
otherwise, can try throwing some into tab 1 hp and using HP pots
Have just started the process of using the 20stack library to max. Talents are max of 220 now
if you hit 200 in mana is life you'll take 95% to your mana pool
mana talents should be maxed anyway since you get damage from it, too
you can drop your points in str, agi (probably), luck, skill eff, and skill afk 
171 is cap atm. Could be a good reason. I need to respec, been a while and I thought I was on my other tab when assigning some points
you know a number is big when you gotta start counting the places 
Its hard to count places through the tears, tbh

are breeding lvl, egg rarity, and the bm talent curviture of the paw the only 3 things that affect the number i get when i breed a pet?
Egg Rarity does not improve minimum roll iirc, only the power cap
right
gaming gains going ๐ ฑ๏ธrazy today
ez game is ez
I never use that lol I pull 5 at a time and it's usually good enough
Its definitely necessary once your higher lvl characters are mostly maxed. But for ones that you don't have the talent points to max or that have talents that are still low, its probably better to roll individually so you can improve more talents at a time
Do you need to have Fury Relic to be able to get talents to lv 200? I'd like to get my bubo to be able to cranium farm and for that I need Tenteycle to be lv 200
Rift slug might be able to push you over with symbols and arctis high enough without fury
if you dont have fury your not really ready to CC anyway
Okay, I don't have rift slug. Maybe one day!
So you would need at least basic fury
you can still use CC when it's off cooldown
I still do cc when I can
Do you have 170 max yet?
and yeah, I buy out the library. It's too good not to
I think I max out at around 150 but I haven't been seeking out talent lv sources
so last night i got to w5 and got lucky and unlocked snake right away should i save bits from gaming for anything other than divinity gain from snake?
You will need bits for a lot of stuff
I would say just reinvest them into gaming for now
I'm sure someone has better advice, but if you just got to w5, upgrade whatever if most affordable until you plateau, then focus on specific things
If you have the gems one thing you can do to help gaming is buy the golden sprinkler
gold sprinkler OP
fax
i kinda pushed hard to get to w5 already i was at jelly fishes and used 2 cosmic candies just to reach troll
yes thanks to the event and getting a jackpot in arcade i immediately bought a few things for w5
I would hold off on pushing w5, just focus on the new skills to get some easy buffs, but ultimately you should make sure that w1-4 are in order before trying to rush further
im way behind on prayers ๐
you're probably behind on a lot of things 
damage goal for w5 boss is 30-80m for ES/DK > other classes
cough alchemy
got this stamp at last 
one day ๐ญ
yes money is a big problem im trying to research green mushroom farming for money but im missing some critical multipliers i think
deathnote is multiplicative with itself in each world, so the more you work on getting other w1 mobs up, the more mk per tier you'll get for gmush
Rip. first try and i got a crap score. turns out im bad at poing
a lot of it is kickstarted with barb zows and 1m kills required for vman quest
that's about my normal score 
hehe i dont even have vman yet
i apparently got 9.9k a long time ago, long enough that I didn't even realize that poing had a multiplier
Its kinda scuffed tbh. My average score is like 3k with a few good games in there
all these minigame achievements that i'm never going to get
damn the scaling on the multiplier is low lol
triple my score almost and only .5 more
Which is why I haven't tried to grind it further
I play it here and there when I'm in class or something, but I'm not about to spend hours on it for minimal gain
im just grinding statues atm so might as well play
Depending on where you're at, statue farming might be worth waiting. A lot of people try to do it really early, but its super easy if you wait. 1/30 crystal chance, both card doublers, chocolate chip, DR 15+ etc.
I have close to 3 million statues in my bank atm. I think im in a decent spot for farming them ;P
Do I prio one or do I just upgrade whatever is cheaper?
Whatever is cheaper first, usually. Ultimately you'll probably want to prioritize speed if you check regularly or bits if you only check once or twice a day
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esp once you get kitsune then you can really pull ahead on bits too
or you will end up checking every 10 minutes lol
I usually leave the game open when I'm at home n check every so often I guess?
Even if you don't it may be worth it. With a few upgrades it becomes just a ton better since the buff gets boosted
Yeah, if you're actively playing for a while, leave it on and check periodically. Otherwise if you're afk for a long time, leave it off
Ok
i would say if you check every 1-3 hours leave it on
its kinda like sailing and using the chest stacking talent
oh thats a cute emote. i dig it havnt seen that around here lol
lava should add some cute emotes too lol
Silvervale has super cute stickers/emotes
iinstead we got this lol
i thought this was server fav
u can check the top emojis
oh look at that you can
I'm a discord pleb
I thought the top was my most frequent. I now see there are two levels lol
i just chat here lol basically like "i just work here"
boooo arrow
Silvervale is a vtuber?
anything to avoid cuz all im seeing is boat speeed
arti chance is pretty crap. cloud is meh.
Cloud is essentially useless
She is! https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale I actually don't follow her/watch her.. I just joined her discord for the cute emotes.
I've joined discords for less lol
Yeaaaaaa at least half the discords Im in are just for emotes.
lol valid
Should i start doing obol farming since my dr currently is 4x
i always recommend gettin you 1 personal set and 1 family set of pop and dice
lol thas a good one
and here I am being cool and all using basic yellow faces
i feel like im trashing obols every 10 minutes i keep filling up
That's the curse of having 18 DR
I just love the loot explosions from crystals now though, especially with the higher spawn rate
i used to get lag when too many mob mats were on the ground. now im getting close to that with just obols on the ground
yea but then im playing musical filters based on what im farming
Should I be getting every character I have to kruk asap?
I really hope I can get the godshard card up without spending a month worth of candy
There's a star sign and wurms is a good farming map which comes after kruk, but no it isn't really necessary
You will do it eventually though
I need to up my damage, and since my es has the skull Wang I'm assuming the best way for me to do so is via kattle missions
Wand

at least u can 4*/5* it with gems
Equinox shovel upgrade was a game changer. Went from 20k to 30k to 60k to 115k in a couple days after being stuck at 20k for weeks
Currently it's 1 in 11 hours on the afk screen. It's always higher than that but that doesn't sound great
I will try getting my mining speed from 57 to 62 and then I'm doing it no matter how much candy it takes
Actually I'll beanstack my dumplings first as well. That should be like +15% afk gains
At what point should i reasonably take my chars out of lab and work on other skills?
At level 75 at the least to allow full chip load outs.
And if i dont have chips? ๐คฃ
Level 100 for skill mastery when you get access to it
Or I rotated my characters in and out of the lab as each slowed down in progression.
Edit: clarification
I have lab skill mastery atm at 250, was thinking getting 25 on all first
You'll need lab level like 2000? or something like that later on so can worry about it later after getting 75 for now
Yea 2100
Just figured, the more skills i get up acc wide the higher eff/exp i could be getting per hour in lab
This is really what im working with, just unlocked skill mastery and realized im really behind on some skills
Yea i realized that with trapping/worship
I was considering pushing those skills after i now unlock my vman
Push him to the highest and catch up on the skills on other chars, by taking them out of lab
Is vman a big upgrade to your acc progression acc wide?
He also is the best monster mat printer so helps you with lots of stamps/vials
blood marrows multi increases a lot faster the more meals you have too, so the next few meals they get will make it jump massively
as you can see, less then double his meal levels but the speed is insanely higher
yay done sailing version 1
I guess even at like 3 digit meal levels it would be a significant increase
Was running out of ideas on how to progress besides lab/gearing all my chars but yall have given me more goals ty!!
That's not how it works, it has basically no effect til around 1000
Nani
It would still be a decent increase no?
Not thousands of% but a small amount
Take the percentage, 1% as an example add 100%
101%^(meal levels)
But at say 100 meal levels for example that would still be 101% faster cooking speed
Right?
At 1% that's a 2% speed increase
1000 meals was a little off.
1% with 1000 meals is 20k
So 1% with 100 meals is 2k?
The percentages multiply off eachother yeah
No
math hard lets leave it at that lol
Lmfao fair enough
It's not linear to any degree
exponential
So you're saying it only starts to take off post 1k meals
So even slight increases to the bonus from the talent (the 1%) are quite big
I was off there. Maybe 700
just max it. dont think
well yeah, that was my intention once i unlock the skill
anything to help my cooking speed is amazing
Solo'd 4frog! 
Smol gains

usually people show off their gains on the right so i was like โbro are u blind it went downโ 
xD i just clicked one
speaking of vman cooking talent, does it update instantly if on another character?
woulda been better if i wasnt at 1.0x multi when i did it
like if i raise the level of a dish on my BB, will it instantly take effect when i make the next dish?
and if i would actually optimize my char some instead of doing things like... not giving it any tools and stuff except axe lolol
how much of a difference does something like this make?
kinda desperate to increse my trapping gains lmao
pretty big
fml then. im never gonna get him
if you have extra critters multipliers and decent traps it gets multiplied by quite a lot
do some splicing
yeah with a few days of splicing and some more rift levels i can reach it should be good
especially if i save up the eggs
Splice and you'll get it
My rule of thumb was always 4 large bars of genetics.
so glad i dont have to hatch eggs any more, that was a pain
does king doot pet give you minor bonuses for all gods too?
is this really a 1 in 6,670,00 chance, randomly used a 1 hour time candy and got it kek
Is that supposed to prove anything?
A sample size of 1
Let him enjoy his rare drops
I am. But he asked if it's really this drop chance. Yes. Just because you got it in 1 kill doesnt mean it's not.
1 hour candy
You could literally get the godshard gloves pattern in 1 kill.
And even if you did, that woyldnt make the drop chance any better.
:/ only getting an extra 1 mil on gold nugget is such a let down
Thats sad. How many nuggets deep were you?
was sitting on a min of 100k
Oh damn then a 1m increase is asssssss. 
Me who got a 1k increase 
Damn I was sitting here all happy going from 60k to 120k
guh.. getting the moltern gloves recipe is time consuming
Yeah... I don't feel like I want to gamble 72 hrs candy. Already Super Chowed Suggma. 
You can use the guanranteed drop calc tool that IT has.
i want :[
Is seashell in Gaming bugged? I had 310 left to level it up, evolved 5 plants with a cactus and it only went down to 309
It's janky.
You're telling me :/ only counting 20% of my actual evolutions
Another 5 evolved and it counted 0 this time
We just learn to accept it.
Lava code \o/
Guys i understand that i should wait for colossal matty bag after making void mat bags but should we also not make lustre carry cap bags which are used for various skills and wait for colossal version of theirs
you can make whatever ya want lol
unless your salt locked
My refinery is ass right now trying to fix it by getting good skilling gear and multiore bubbles for bigger prints
colossal matty bags need 200 hampters, which conflicts with upgrading to the magma weapons
so if you have the stuff to make one of the tab4 bags, its not the worst idea in the world to do so for at least your main active chars
Ah
Also my dr is 4x should i start the obol farming now because i dont see any more optimal way to increase my dr yet
It's fine to obol farm
Given that DR, u would rather want to save Hampter for Weapons instead. There are many ways to increase carry cap and salt production.
do you have choc chip
what in the yellow sailor https://i.imgur.com/NbA2BLO.png
Nope
i was 100 cheese behind when it was in the shop
How much hp and defense do I need to survive these freaks? I can one shot them but they do the same to me
(The crystal)
you using -total defense prayer?
No but I did some tweaking and can survive the hit now
Just get more hp and healing food and some defence
anyone for HH?
no luck in party finder yet, im working on the cloud for 5 maxed flurbo stats, so really dont wanna waste my HH this week on a dud party again like a couple weeks ago lol
seems quiet, maybe ill try for next hh
mm. should i keep farming for the molten gloves recipe or go farm the hampters now?
it might be just sleep deprivation but if im reading this right, if i fail i wont drop right? only if i get lv20+ will it drop back to 20?
youd drop to 15
thanks for clarifying. just got this upgrade for sodium. i dropped from 17 to 15 a few days ago and just got back up to 19 lol
#party-finder-๐ช people are always on there looking for groups for HH or giving carries
i usually get better parties when i ask here tbh
i usually get the core of the team here, get the carries, then fill up the team in party finder
last time i joined a team from party finder, the guy who was party leader started early without a carry and wasted my tickets, thats happened to me about 3 times there now, not keen on repeating the experience
sorry if im asking in the wrong server but w6 channel seems to be quite inactive. After planting the seed, do i just need to wait for the apple to grow before next quest or ?
you can use a compost bag to grow it instantly
check your inven for a- ^
hmm strange, let me check it again, i didnt see it just now. Thanks
ahh npc bugged out, I restarted and he give me the compost now
what about climbing the ninja hotel? for Sneaking
i used both Sands and im Still on 2nd floor
Go to w6 channel and read pins
There is alot of info on how to progress your w6 skills
You can loot Weapon and Trinkets. Weapon like Nunchunk obviously does what it does. The away timer also take account of your sneaking evasion probability, so you could get less gain than u expected.
w5 chat best chat!
Do you still need to drop items for the slab or does crafting/getting quest rewards now automatically fill it out?
The wiki says that Arctis disables Lab exp gain, if you put your players in the lab, do they resume gaining exp?
Yes
Phew, thanks
Otherwise all Doot players would cry
thankss!
idk if im bugged out again, but it ask me to spend essence after the fight and i bought upgrades but it still ask me to spend essence
It may be asking for specific upgrades
Anyone know what pet to use for the equinox mirror challenge, the 4 pets beat wave 115 challenge
anyone know the amount of trophy from (weekly boss) i need to get/save for all the UI bar ?
50k pet power
Tq
what does this mean? like is it a 6.2 chance to give afk sailing time or 6.2% of the afk time is converted to sailing time
is this any good?
6.2% chance to give additional sailing afk time
Only positive, no negative. If you AFK for 10 hours, you have a 6.2% chance to also get 10 hours of sailing time as a bonus. It does not take away from your normal AFK gains. This chance afds together with the big green bubble and caps at 100%. Going over 100% chance won't provide any benefit
i see, thank you guys
appreciate it
It allows you to have a seizure when opening the map ๐
is this just a bit multiplier?
does skilled dimwit and the opposite one affect divinity exp?
ye
probably no. you could test and see pretty easily.
Is there any guide for efficient trapping?
They don't
whats a good drop rate to have before starting to farm statues?
statues are more dependant on chocy chip than DR imo
thats unfortunate ๐ฆ guess time to gamba or wait till next time it drops
its coming again next month or june i think
hopefully
suppose I should work on crystal chance and drop rate while I wait then
i lied ๐ฟ swear it was on the toolbox rotation when i checked but its gone now
How much damage on vman needed to kill base kruk?
Should be june 14th or something, did it change again?
guys i unlocked a new god but i failed unlinking every one at once how do i do it i want to unlink everyone and the link everyone apart of one to arctis
cauuse last time i switched chars and did it like a dumbass
It sounds like you know what to do if you unlinked once already.
You select multiple characters while in the unlink screen before clicking unlink
reached 100% crit chance on statue
you log into each char to link
took me until having doot to realize I could unlink multiple chars at once 
thats what i thought i saw but it changed
maybe toolbox isnt that accurate? idunno
I don't have Doot ๐ฆ
You can unlink twice a week, unlinking one char or ten both count as one of those unlinks
and you can link to a god as long as you are unlinked
okey thx u very muchg
Dw i hit pity cause Im a fool
who should i push after my bubo in ur opinion
push what? divinity?
no i want to get one pushing the rest divinity for unlocking gods
Im not sure, have you hit w6 already?
ES or DK for an easier time killing kruk.
okey thx should i push the portals inw 4 with him or w5 to try and push there didnt try it yea
since youre past w4 theres no real reason to go back until later when the kills come asy
just use a DK or ES to push to kruk and get toi w6 while ur other chars do div
DK might be a bit easier, it has been a while for me
should i kepp everyone div till trani?
Do lab/div
who is kruk btw
w5 boss
i need to unlock the god
until you have goat god, then lab until Tranqi unlocked
okey
when should i try to get my mman to vman cause i could do that do but im not sure ig im gonna do what u said
thx u
any of u guys gonna be able to get the current jewel?
according to IT it will be up for 2 weeks
The black one for meals? I just got it this morning.
i just unlocked the spice, but i think theres no chance i can get 10k of it in 2 weeks
when u spend less than a day on a mob type, for multiple characters
grats
Nobisect is a must ofc
impossible even for those who have had the spice unlocked since w6 released
wow
It's taken me a long time though of saving
2100 lab is the way
what happens at 2100 lab again?
Any chance somebody has a P character
carrot 13 w1 town
Yay
Ayo, just got 3 eldritch artifacts. Bit/div/cooking gains through the roof 
get the rating?
grats ace
when do i unlock a new island for sailing? and i should just have all my captains be loot/speed right? Cant find a guide anywhere ive just been putting my captains wherever is farthest that is at 2 hrs
sounds like you have the basics down
yeah generally speed is best, loot next best, both are better than all the other traits
why you slacking on level 13 vials
Probably need more damage, check ๐ for a guide
Had to use some hampters for weapons, smh
I wonder if anyones done it
Yeah I finally finished that god forsaken quest, thank you so much
hey guys, im at the task cracking the kruck 10 and I have massive problems to kill the wave with my V-man, is there anything I am missing or do I need so much more damage to ignore the wave ?
1,131,663,600 total items needed. 2 years being 730 active farming days since none of us have a life. 17,520 hours, let's cut off 520 hours for other things you do through the 2 years.
To get that, you need to be earning 66,568 hampters per hour.
20 DR.... you get 1/2500 kills? so you need to hit 166m kills per hour (base kills) or cut that down to a workable 80mil kills per hour if you get 40 DR
lol
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
is doot just that ridiculously powerful and that ridiculously rare?
yes
why would lava do that...
pins has some answers for this
It's more like there is no reason to bother about it. Play idleon as how u wanted, don't ignore mechanics that don't boost dmg. Boom. Reaching further in ur own account without Doot.
Did w5 ever get a colosseum?
shoudl be done with w2 onyx today. which is nice. cant wait to totally finish so i can deposit my nearly 3m statues all at once lol
you got someone doing catching for the fishing statue, or was it the other way around with the w2 skilling statue ๐ค
just the fishing statue is the only one i wont have for a bit
ill put someone on catching later on. its not a high prio for me atm.
go farm butterflies
ye but then i gotta put DR stuff on my catcher.
which im using atm on my DK to farm
its not a high prio, but getting the butter bar to 110k will be done XD
Id prob just put my vman on it
slowly workin on his skills. but man fishing levels like crap
got the fishing island unlocked ?
no
then yep fishing sucks XD
i unlocked my islands in a poor order.
Trash > Crystal > Event > Shimmer ( a few days ago)
fishing island xp will make it level a lot faster, but thats like a month from now
getting cards to plat/ruby did wonder on my vman
thats also on my list
that mostly what got him ahead on everything really
cards are baaaaaad
used maxed level transfusion on everything that didnt make him dip below 100% gather chances using a dr/cdr
easy resources is really worth maxing out asap for better samples
Is this normal? it says I have 747m base bits but when I click a sprout it just gives me 83 bits
yeh its all a WIP i was workin on cards until i started to CC and statue farm real good. then i forgot i was workin on that lol
is it giving you 83 green bits because thats basically 83QQ
or Q somethin like that
Oh green bits
just use vman to do that and move him once a card reach your current cap
Yeah, nvm then, thanks for clarifying
can i stop divinity for a while after i got arctis?
U could, but a terrible idea to push W5 or doing Vman questline without Nobisect.
After that, maybe u can wait for sailing artifacts to improve it. Do things like Equinox class levels if reasonable. But don't delay Goat too long.
Massive gains with MSA Super Bits
beeg
yea im asking bcs i have to hard lvlup my other characters than pusher
If the XP rate is good and u knew what I said, go for it.
indeed
how do i level up the god rank on divinity ?
ahhh divinity is soooo bad... not even full afk but rng too :(((
Anyone want to roast me on where I'm missing out dmg or if I'm on par?
ES is lv204 @ citringes (87k kills to go) but only have 9m max base dmg. I keep hearing I'll need 30-50m to kill Kruk when I get there and I just don't see how I'd 3x+ my dmg in 2.5 maps lol
I know everything will slowly build up - alch, stamps, etc.
I should have chiz helm and chest later today, grey gatsby when my 5k souls roll in later this week... and a chiz scarf if the damn thing ever drops 
TeegardinF is the ES in question
https://teegardin.idleonefficiency.com/
Arm can delay. Level 4 upgrade is worthless. Level 5 one wait till u maxed Fury artifact.
ive unlocked all 10 gods just need to level up the ranks
id there a list of sll divinity exp sources?
check idleon insight
Is any construction going to help w/ pushing though?
better books does
its the most important one to max off all
arguably just as imporant if not more than getting printer to max
get ready to bleed your blue salts in the proces though. can get kind of pricy towards the end
it is worth the price XD
oh definitely
wished lava would add some more level to it XD
i just see some people delay it cause they think its too much... i just smh
173 1 hour candies... could check if it helps with ur Splicing. U cannot sleep on W4 skills.
I am oblivious to the needs of salts until I need them. So if I can burn them in construction thereโs no questions asked lol
My BB is splicing / chowing for vman questlineโฆ new pet chance is ass though ๐ฆ been stuck on wode board forever
i just sank 20k greens upgrading all my traps/skulls, it hurt me a little inside
i'm not looking forward to making the marbiglass/godshard trap/skull dont recall wich of those need some
Try to spam regular egg and breed Pink Wode Board. Put them on Fenceyard so u get multiplier.
If u can work on New Pet Chance, go. If u can unlock new meal, go. That's what ie or it are for.
I have fence yard loaded with heart wodes ๐ฆ and I do spam regular egg. Been stuck for a few weeks. Even spliced wode to like lvl 25 and my new pet chance is still like 1/2.5k or 25k lol
Iโll check ie/it for meals. Havenโt done much except start pushing things to 11 as I wait for diamond chef bubble to finally@hit
How much work do i need do to beat kattlekruk
probably triple damage
Just take it slow. U can catch up in W6 skills anyway.
If u somehow can craft Chizoar, just go for it. Otherwise check anything that does not give damage on paper as well.
i dont have the purple salts unlocked and am saving my green salts for that rn
Long way ๐ข
is there a dmg chart
Like a checklist? I dunno.
ok
Cause like, u cannot just work on dmg stat. It is a very terrible thing to do.
list would be too long lol
cant seem to get my dmg up to kruk level lol
For early in gaming, when you reach your max plants do you harvest them or leave them to evolve to the max and lose spawning new plants?
I've been letting it get to max and then harvesting just 1 plant and leaving the rest
When u see a new evolution not happening, and u can afford something new, u can go for that instead.
Things like Kitsune and Chemical will help on plant evo later on
i would say just harvest all constantly cause you'll end up doing gaming for a while still and you'll get all 'reasonable' evo within that time. saving yourself the headache now might help you to keep burning out from having to progress gaming
Okay, good feedback
weee finally got NMLB
now you just need to finish unlocking all the meals
yeh i need more cook speed for it to be worth working on my next set
vman bonus finaly snowballed ?
it should start soonish
cant even book it atm until i do another speed run
yeah speedrun is annoying until you dont really care much for it, or sovereign throw a wrench in all those cap skill...
Is the divinity wiki page up to date, and Kattlekruk and Bagur still do nothing besides their blessings?
yeh the issue im having is pet power to be able to actually set up to get them
you got mono?
power to harvest the spice, not to do the fight
iirc last time i saw is setup he was far from a chunk of the spices
jsut baareeeeellly was able to get smokey
1 forager + 3 tsars (above) - combo of tsars/whales below --> to at least get 1 spice to start recipes
you get a ladle! you get a ladle! you get a ladle!
ooohhhh i see my issue partly
I didnt chow as much as i thought
got all my zow to w6 but not my chows
i need to do mine too 
chow only help with getting more laddles tho, not with cooking speed
answer: ||skill issues||
unlucky
my meals has to be 30 or 31 to count ?
Smol gains
damn how
i think the bonus is multiplicative ๐ง with is better
It's good and yes it is
why do i get a 2% speed bonus when i have 13 meals at 30 ?
how many are at 31?
0
hmmmmm idk im still too nub
tried reloading the map ?
restart the game ?
free candies due to desync is always nice lol
yeha
great to get lots of extra sailing time due to golden hampster
also the bean stack effect increases from g food bonuses>stamps/warrior ?
yep, it show at the top of stalk the total g.food multi
aight thanks
gaaah so close to being done with w2 statues. just need more book statue
Why suddenly we got updates, after all those milkman roaming around today. 
finally an update
Maybe a silly question, but do the Vman talents Species Epoch and Blood Marrow apply to all characters as well? i.e. if I have the species epoch bonus on my vman, will it boost the critters caught by traps placed by my BM get boosted as well? And does that amount also get snapshotted at the moment a trap is placed?
Awesome! Thank you! ๐
did you go talk to the NPC top left of W6 town and complete his quest?
I have yet to try any dungeons other than the world 1 dungeon. Am I missing out or nah?
you missing on the cards + you will need to reach 3rd phase on W2 and W3 dungeon for equinox
killing 3rd boss in w2 and w3 dungeons give small but meaningful +dmg bonuses so worth doing at least 1x
damn how much time to get all 10?
5 days late but finally got the funny number
no more class lvl up on that character
Been going daily checks for maybe the last week and half for the last 3 gods
!rank
๐ซ reaperstear, that command is disabled in this channel.
already in lab jail
25% gang who's with me?
Hmm, guess i should get the 3 farming merits first
And that was indeed what was recommended by w6 chat
That was also all my w6 merits for now 
Yeah I only had a few lol
Is this quest broken?
Nah ya just have to talk to him again
Ah oki thanks
I don't even focus on that I do daily stuff and see it increases
I leave for 5 minutes and you guys have an update without me ๐ญ
Nah bro wasn't expecting the update
Just Got W6 โค๏ธ
Anyone want to do dungeon happy hour?
Still waiting?
Yeah
Gimme ur server if u have 1 more player
5 downed and detection rate is 10% 
My main has 30% detection on floor 10
Floor 10 is the pile of sacks or the eyeball lantern?
I think they are pillows
the eye box is higher
let's go I can afford 3 opals
When does this nightmare end.....
Damn I got foal horn and still couldn't solo finish the dungeon
Need more crit chance
we finished 4th frog with 3mins left team of 3
We barely made it past 3rd lol
Wait you can do challenges while not even have merit shop unlocked for the new world?
I havent done the W5 merit quest yet and i got an achievement from that page
where is the new npc ? i can't find him in the town
In W6? Left of farm
Gotta click on the farm shop to go left enough to talk to him.
Read the second thing that I said.
oh yes i found him thank you ^^
Anyone can help with king doot really quick, just need an archer
is this on weekly reset or exactly one week after you unlink it like companions
your weekly reset
each tiem you unlink, remember to choose all chars you want to unlink at once. it isn't one at a time
thanks
i'm asking such stupid questions im getting treated like i reached world 5 yesterday and not almost a year ago 
shrug, i can't know when you got to w5 and how much you know. you asked about unlinks so i provided common info that some don't know about just in case
you're fine, i was just joking
i know. i'm just trying to be helpful where i can. i know many make that initial mistake re: unlinks so i try to provide that hint so they don't delay their links/unlinks by a week
Since w6 is out, if im afk in w6 it makes sense to move all shrine to w6 town ?
a little confused about the mechanics
depends on whether you have the sailing artifact + keep lab bonus lit -> which is dependent on whether you still need to lab/div grind
im kinda done with lab div
Sailing artifact, which one is it?
the one where itll work everywhere right, yea i have that too
moai head from 1st island
so you get benefits from your shrines wherever cause of sailing
so tech you only need to move if you are trying to level it up. if you get the emporium upgrade, you can move freely w/o losing time on upgrade
then at that point, your question is a little moot
Hello people of w5 my question is how long did it take to get to w5 in w4 an at witch point in w4 did you kinda plateau an slow down while trying to push
Anybody there
most you will get are prob anecdotal accounts as how long it takes x person to get from w4 to w5 is very dependent on their gameplay style.
in terms of most streamlined strategy, its usually:
- full commit to lab using all characters until you can pull 1 out while still reaching (a) NBLB and (b) Killer Brightside.
- use this time to get each character their elite class.
- once your elites are settled, you can then decide to push to w5 or do some more catchup while you maintain people in lab to ensure nodes are still lit.
So its hard to give an exact "x amount" of time is proper for w4 to w5. Its highly dependent on how you would like to maintain/develop roster
So anecdotally, I spent 3 weeks in w4 before I got to w5. But I used some of that time ensuring my characters remained only 1 world behidn my main pusher in terms of how far they have gone while also doing some moderate catchup on alchemy/stamps/etc.
But I know there are those who get to w5 from w1 in 3 weeks. So take what you want from that
That helped cuz I'm starting to slow down while pushing w4 so I need to invest more time in lab because I got to past clammie an now I'm going like super slow all my characters are lvl one in lab accepted my bubo
W4 is where a lot of people encounter a slow down, especially if you have neglected past world's systems. So your experience is not out of the norm
you got your 2100 lab levels? 
Will Chizoar armor carry me into w6? I was told that earlier but just wanted to ask again to be sure.
think I spent about a month in w4, i had the benefit of 2 years afk...so I was behind in a lot of things but was able to get some things done easier due to mass afk time
yes, gear only really matters for w1-2 and then starts to matter again during mid to late game when you have enough base stats to actually matter
for now, alch/stamps etc are what will carry your damage
just make sure u have enough survivability
i probably do, moles only do 5k more damage than the lava lamps and I can relax in a large group of them without losing any noticeable hp
the afk stat
you should be fine as a warrior type anyway with that hp + hemo
altho 62k is really really low for a dk
chiz helm/chest + your current void pants/boots sohuld be plenty to get you to w6. only thing you might change is getting upgraded chiz blankie
i havent been lucky enough to drop the first tier, but i already have more than enough spikes to make 2-3 full sets of chizoar including scarf
craft it, it gives you better misc stat
he has no blankie ๐ฆ
the other chiz stuff, his using void still
im just waiting on salts, if i dont need the leggings and boots since im only lacking that and the ice age 3/black lenses
ooh i get your rseponse now: soz
welcome to salt hell 
the leg/boots are pretty mid cause they only give mastery which is useless stat. its more slab gear than really being useful to provide damage
better stats/upgrade slots anyway
he wont be seeing any more gains until troll set i think
true i guess. your choice whether you want to craft it or not, but the main chiz pieces are helm/chest for sure
chiz is considerably cheaper compared to the w4/5 shit anyway i think
itll prob be tmr afternoon when i get the salts to make the helmet and chestplate
the anvil4 armor dead ends though so kind of not worth effort at their point probably
we still gotta get it if we want the endgame armor tho
nah its a dead end
nope. you swap to troll
and i still dont even have the worship for anvil tab 4
troll armor doesnt need any gear to upgrade from
troll is start of proper armor chain through w6
lustre only useful for skilling boots
troll > magma > divine > marbiglass > godshard
thats the gear progression from hereon
no
theres a merit/achievement somewhere about it
did your daily just reset?
or w2 island bonus too
no my daily reset is in 8h
you just have god rng then
yeah they're no longer spawning
killroy shop?
nah
either way its gone now ๐
game just wanted to welcome you to world 5
I'm not complaining tho lol
in the most horrific way possible
noice you have choc chip?
provides a lot of different bonuses based on how many items unlocked, some bonuses unlocked from gaming, some from sneaking in w6, some from bubbles
lot of bonuses are based on slab. at first nothing, but once you get sailint/alch there its huge
ah, was just wondering since I have 745 items logged into it but it doesn't say anything about any bonuses
you gotta unlock them. hope you've been diligently dropping/repicking up items
yeah I heard about that in w3 but I'm pretty sure I can get everything I'm missing fairly easily
up to the point where I'm at in terms of progression
just made the void helmet for my DK, but ive gotta wait for the 150 purple salts
God I can't wait until I'm done with these dungeon equinox dreams
It's an achievement, w5 unlock
imagine forgetting to warp into town to swap to the skilling preset and using the refinery talent
well im gonna have to wait another hour to make the chestplate instead of having it instnatly
why do you have it in your other preset anyway
cuz i didnt wanna use 100 talent points on it, when it could go into damage
but why use 1 then 
cuz i have rift slug
its such a long cd, you could use that talent point elsewhere and not make the mistake of clicking it on ur dmg preset
i used to be like you, just gotta be diligent and swap your presets when you start skilling, or take the L if you forget
cant mix, only dmg and only skilling
awww i was hoping we would get a new rotation on gem shop
soontm
well i should have all of the purple salts when i wake up in the morning if i claim my green ones early
nice 700 more statues and im done with w2
I love how everyone always gets jumpscared by the w5 crystal spawns when it first gets unlocked
Unintentional but hilarious
should i wait until vman to level my maestros skills over everyone elses?
if im not actively skilling on other chars
Get Maestro to the highest skill levels anyway.
You can always improve your samples for 3D Printer
I'm refocusing on getting bigger prints? currently midgame. Which prints should I focus on first? Chopping, mining, fishing, or catching?
Vman does help, but it's better to do it as soon as possible
i guess i could get my 1m death note kills on w1-3 first
im 5 levels from 150, and pushing the note kills shouldnt be too bad on my ES
Go with whatever is most relevant for your needs.
If you want more Atoms, focus on Chopping > Oak prints
If you need better crafts, you can focus on Mining -> Ore prints for the relevant Bars or Catching -> Bug Prints for the relevant crafting requirements
Logs/Choppin levels are the easiest to accumulate, followed by Ores/Mining, followed by Bugs/Catching
Fishing is by far the hardest until you can get 100% Efficiency in Seasalt Island
gotcha, I'm currently spamming slimes for Sanic Tools which helps chopping + Catching.
Sampling, and Spamming all log related blue bubbles, and resampling every other day.
That's the correct way to go right?
Iโm doing the 1m death note kills on my BB since he needs the chows anyways. W1 wasnโt bad but w2 kph is definitely slower
i was considering doing chows later on down the line when i go for eclipse skulls
It's an approach, depending on what you still need to work on.
One of the top priorities is getting multi-resource maxed (300%)
multi-resource?
Sand Giants is the highest KPH for me; my strategy has been to go with the highest KPH in a world then work on down.
Multi-Ore, Multi-Log, Multi-Bug, and Multi-Fish.
Caps at 300%, which means you get 4 batches per chip/swing/catch/reel
My ES is pushing w5 for me so my BB is doing some background work ๐ I will probably finish off w2/3 with ES if I ever make it to w6
wait this can be pushed past 100% chance?
Good point. I havenโt checked kph in w2 yet. Is there a pretty definitive order for kph without just teleporting to every map?
I stopped upgrading it at 51 because i assumed 100% was the cap for multi log chance
Go into your inventory over to the skill page open one and it has the multi chances
I don't know about that specifically; I did trial and error.
What I do know is that mob density can have a much bigger influence on KPH than monster HP.
I'm finishing off Onyx Statues with ES; BB is doing background work farming Troll Armor materials.
Purging the Chizoar armor piece by piece
wait so if this should be at 300% for max gains right?
Yes
is equinox skilling bis for exp/hr ?
No, there are better for each skill
Yeah I learned that in w1 lol.
early on should i be doing equinox? i know fishing is good but not sure about the others for my maestro
getting the skills to level ~45
Oh youโre significantly farther ahead than me. Your ES can probably 1m the death note kills real quick
Get as far as you can before it starts to feel painfully slow, then go back to the drawing board for other improvements
Generally, no. Equinox doesn't allow AFK and there are always better things to do with Active time than skilling
anyone knwo the requirements for fire spirit -> biggole mole door
so short question and i am not trying to stop what i am doing right now, so i have been fighting kattlekruk on the last difficulty for the last 6 hours and i have him on half the health is it worth it to keep going or was it not reasonable from the start
im gonna be doing the crystal swine quests with some characters until i get to kattlekruk and im gonna try toget itno w6 rq since i have two keys
from a w5 miniboss
current hp of him
It's not like killing him on nightmare is guaranteed to drop anything so i say abandon ship
i know but i forgot that i started the fight before work havent thought i came even that far so now i am kind of invested, i dont want the time spend to be a complete waste
Wasn't worth it from the start. Any fight over like 20 minutes isn't worth it
All 12 hours could be a waste if nothing drops
but what if he drops smth
might be a lottery drop though, theres always the chance 
yeah thats what i am betting on right now
whats the kill requirement for fire spirit -> moles
I couldn't tell you if i tried
Less than 1m.
Check the wiki
it doesnt say afaik
im seeing it right now like a a complete moron, its a 50/50 chance either i get something or i dont
It does. Search for portal requirementals
aight bet, pray for me cuz i should be in the kattlekruk fight tonight
i love this for you, please keep us updated
i have enough easy candies from the crystal swine quest to get from fire spirits -> biggole mole
i will lets hope for the best haha
i just gotta wait about 10-15 minutes to manually get past lampars since i ddint want to waste a candy for less than an hour of kills
wings, card, obol, and pend in the same drop
2M or something like that?

its only 600k which shouldnt take too many 24h candies
is that worth the candy pouring tho
Do you have the damage for kruk?
prob not, but i have two keys so i can find out
20m minimum on es/dk
thats would be like winning the lottery, if i get all the drop im gonna go and get a lottery ticket
It may be possible, worth trying i guess
gonna be hard with the dmg
i tried kattle first time with 30m dmg and had no chance to beat him
i shouldnt take any dmg at all if the attacks r only 25k damage and lamps do 20k
youll be fine
well at least any significant dmg
i can move around my star sign and i prob will
i moved around some stuff is that enough
should be more than enough now i just levelled up a bubble a bit
I don't know how it rounds, nor do i know if the boss room has the same accuracy requirement
That works
i got my dmg back up to about the same as i started with and i have 83k accuracy now
whats your damage?
rip im not dying, but he isnt either
at least not if i auto
i wait no he is dying
its just gonna be very boring and prob an hour
but im gonna have a chizoar helmet tmr i just iddnt wanna wait for the 100 purple salts
i dont htink hes gonna die
You have damage food on?
yea, but im bad
are the moles getting to him? do you get to kill them before?
If none of the moles are getting to him he will die.
the moles r getting to him
do you do more dmg then they heal?
doesnt look like it
then you need to try it again when ur stronger and do more dmg
but it might just be taking a few hours
everything longer then 20 min is not worth it
trust me, its better to wait and level a bit and get ur dmg up
question: does the blessing bonus from each god apply to everyone passively? or do they have to be linked?
there is a minor bonus and a major bonus the minor applies to everyone the major only the the linked one
how much more do i need
you nee to be able to kill the moles fast enough so they dont reach the boss
if i remember the moles have around 900mil health
i sometimes can, but its too unreliable and too many reach the boss
i dont mean the link bonus, below it theres a "blessing" is this just a universal passive because i unlocked the god?
tmr morning i should have a chizoar helmet, would i be able to try again then?
more crit chance is also a way
You should at least be able to kill Biggole Moles within 2 hits, maybe 3 hits (not that dense in Normal Kattle)
900M is correct; way above the damage @lucid sentinel currently has
i think DKs need to be closer to 35M to do kattle comfortably
25M is pushing it to razor's edge
yeah i think i was able to kill the moles with Dk at 40M dmg
a chizoar helmet gives 15% dmg, and a bunch of upgrade spots i can put w5 stones in
but that was 4 months ago now i do about 40B dmg lol, stat wise i am just at 1.1 B
I agree; I don't remember what my damage was when I first beat Kattlekruk, but it was much higher than 25M.
On top of that, Beast Master was the first character I beat Kattlekruk with
If you can't make troll Armor easily enough, Chizoar Helmet and Bodyplate are your best bets for higher DMG from armor (leggings and boost only give Mastery, which is much less important)
the bonus is not a multiplicative bonus, its closer to 5% sheet damage
so don't over count it when doing your calcs
is there a good way to farm hampters or is it just time consuming
how do i farm emperor opals properly?
Stiltmoles with a Drop Rate build. Active on ES
thank you
Stockpile Flurbos from Dungeon runs. Make consistent use of Happy Hours. 3x is still significantly better than 1x
gettin closer. time to work on w3
damn not bad
i spose i could do Pow while im at it.
where can i find the stats for the staues?
ahhh nvm
found it
should i start doing onyx statues once i have choco?
or is crystal shrine enough to start
those are mine currently
if you can farm crytals consistently in under 1 in 100 i would say do it
nah get it at least to 8 or 9
you got 1.5 months til choco, plenty of time to get that DR up
not really you have ervery thing you need to get up before w6
yeah i figure PO will come w/ crystals
Why does it look like w3 statues are the worst ones to farm for onyx
Its exactly how it looks
whelp time to skip w3 and do w4 instead
did i farm to many statues and my w1 statues are higher then they should be and urs are normal?
no. i have over 2 million statues in my bank
why?
because im waiting to onyx all of them before i hit deposit all. just for funsies
for the extra satisfaction i see
yup. hopefully giga gainz
plus that will give me more time to do my vials and get vial mastery unlocked
Waiting for full onyx also gives you more statue per statue
and more that that
so im gonna get huuuuuuuuge gains
I didnt understand this
its simple, one statue equals more than one, like 1.1
woot. chiz scarf dropped and I finally hit yellow dmg 
yeh i think he means he figured it out ttoo late.
ahhh yeah that also makes sense lol
I havent onyx yet since i got no choco yet
WTS Chems
its 5 am in the morning i havent slept and english is not my mother language lol, i am reading the msgs to fast
Got my w1 skilling statue to around 25k and w2 to around 3k
im at 15.2m-27.4m dmg, but i cant get my chizoar helm until tmr morning
Also where can i see when choco chip returns
No keys?
i have only 1
dont the eyes drop keys?
nop
damn my mistake
the biggole moles do, but its rare and i havent dropped any spare ones
Also domeo magmus
why no officer i dont neglect my worship
you wanna bleed ur eyes a bit?
Is jman your seventh char?
ye
Starfire skulls should be simple by now, no?
So you hid his level to avoid criticism huh
ye
We all know it's below 86
Same bro except es and my jman all my others have horned skulls
he has 1st where it matters.
oh fuck me. new update reset chip rotation back to old one so next choco is not until october again, no short track to another one in june
i started my jman to late now i need to get him up to speed on the skilling
When js next choco chip then?
oct/nov is estimate
it was goign to be june 12, now its oct 16 again
ah there must be a new sheet im unaware of
Toolbox has the rotation
Bruh when it appeared last time i was 12 cheese short on the last hour
thats a hard rip
got 2 spare keys, how stupid is it to use one of them and pray
i woulda 2 min spammed ladles
bruh, should've time candied in kitchen for ladles
:3
if your talking about doing kruk. dont. ES needs atleast 30m. I think DK needs a bit higher
I just reached w5 at that time and my recipe luck was bad so for 4 days i was desperately trying for cheese
i feel ya, i couldn't get cheese either. rip us
just gamba it from gemshop like a normal person ๐
pshhht dont tell them (i got mine like that aswell)
Lol i wanna get some bonuses before giving my life to gamba
got an IE link?
you can probably do it tbh, just need to optimise
DK is really easy to do kruk on
with enooughdmg yeah
https://icedsalad.idleonefficiency.com
havent updated it yet, and ive progressed a bit since this point but i can update in 20 min
2?
can get up to 3 statues with enough levels
if the moles are dying before they reach boss u can take an hour+ and its fine
just unlock w6
i am at my 8th hour fot the last difficulty lol
i think you mean 6 months, according to toolbox
that one not so much worth 
before update reset chip schedule, next one was june
i should've ss to keep as evidence
O
yeah i know but i am gambling on it now to get smth out of the kill now
so i dont want to said i was right about new evolution class but
I'd be sad
lava prob running out of ideas for classes so just wants to do the last tier ig
thats how far i am currently @strong shale

i am getting closer and closer haha
How long have u been doing it
soonโข
8 hours i think could be more
Damn
the dedication
rip 8 hrs of active time
hopefully your other chars are doing something useful ๐คฃ
thats okay he would be afk otherwise
hope u get a card at least
i took care of that
altho kruk cards are god awful
dont need to, got him 4 star already
they gonna hit the motherload of every drop in 1 kill
rip your 14 hrs then
for the work they put in
definetly man
surely 
nah the drops are mighty fine
obol/neck/cape in 1 run
i fricking hope for at least one of em
10
my condolences


ill be doing my vman reqs today


