#lategame-chat-w5π-w6πΈ
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book count is 1 though. either gg on using books or...gg on unlocking library? 
yea, i'm working on the alchemy
using books whenever i can
dang yo, this guy might actually get somewhere π
im at 187 books
my book count pretty much never goes above 5
it gets to 5 because i'm sleeping
weak
honestly you look in a decent spot considering you rushed
I cant remember when rerolling obols do i need to have both rerolled or just the left one?
Probably have to say i got RNG carried with some of the initial bundles i brought and pets
wait... you can skip for vials?

yea im leveling up my turrets to get frigid souls and i havnt attempted a vial in days lol
how do you skip for vials
when you're done with Div 2, I would go fill up your forge and go buy anvil points on all your characters. You should be able to farm up all the W1 mats
Use IE to see what you need for each one
Just check IE/IT/wiki to see what materials have vials and drop whatever you don't have
i farmed up to w4 mats like 3 weeks ago and still havnt bought the points on my people lol
i actually got done with half of world 2 forge and anvil points
should go back and take a look 
i had like 800 points for each character lol
i'm farming out the last ones from w4 right now so I can finally get review bot to stop nagging me 
oh i can just drop the next list of materials and it will just let me get those vials
Yall see anything on my IE that needs immediate work?
i will put that on my list the moment i can free up one of my characters
Though, i kinda hate this lab/divinity mechanic... like you are low-ley not allowed to do anything else
well ill be damn'd i learned somethign new
at least you have doot
fair, now that i understand what it really does... its crazy
yea when i got to world 5 i was like imagine forcing me to log out for a week
at least ES exists now
but did i log out of the game nope i looked at the character select screen cause i refuse to let lava win

i still have to do the lab/div grind
in another channel someone said it will take me roughly 2-3 weeks to get to lvl 40 divinity
i spent so long doing lab, that now i cant be bothered doing it again lol
im lvl 10 and i got here a week ago lol
i already have everything lit up in lab but i only have 3rdx god unlocked
Well 2-3 weeks sounds very generous now...
i was told to ignore labs and push w5 as fast as possible.
i think the stances help alot tbf im on chakra so im trying for bunny now
lab hell never ends
but with bear and no levels im able to get the first 7 tabs
what do people level lab for after lvl 75 besides skill mastery?
yeah by level 75 you can cover everything. my characters range between 25-59 lab and everything is lit, though i dont have many jewels yet
2100 total levels for the new jewels from jade emporium
2100 levels for last 3 jewels
oof
i just heard something i didn't want to hear
Also people just throw their chars in lab instead of divinity to level Div (leveling divinity gives more minor link bonuses)
lvl 75 isn't the end 
lab jail 1.0 = 75, lab jail 2.0 = 210
me too pwn, me too
but you should have way more bonuses to make it a lot quicker by that point
2100 isnβt that bad later on
could you elaborate? why do you get more minor link bonus being in lab instead of divinity?
guess im gonna grind up a full set of souped rings then
They do it to level Divintiy. Which gives higher minor link bonuses
minor link scales with your div level
yea typo mb
so you use lab to double dip time sinks
oh i think i just interpreted the initial message wrong
What do we want! New samples!
What are we going to do instead! CC for 2 weeks and make no progress.
no, you just get both lab and div levels if in lab with goat, so why level just div?
I think the wording was a bit confusing, its basically may as well put in lab, since you get div xp... and also lab xp
this got so expensive 
Youβll want NBLB to hit this as much as possible at this point
yep
The best way to upgrade diamond chef is gem farming to gamble for the NBLB jewel
need to farm some cooking clogs for troll shoes
forgot about that
oof, 3 failes stones on my chest piece
yeah, bb was still in some void/chiz, bumping him up to magma
idk why the head costs 20k starfire bars like wtf
I'm going to go directly from lustre to marble when I get the salt for troll armor
Time gating armor probably

iβm going from void -> troll
Forge stamp is important and helps a lot
gmsuh murder is important too 
lava should come out with a year review that has how many gmush were killed
does gain mean more divinity or xp?
Divinity points
ijey thx
does blessing mean it affects every character even if they have a different god?
Yes like it says in game it affects all characters no matter what god they have
oh
Reading is hard
Just a little funny when the line after blessing is Affects all characters
Congrats!
how op can the gods get?
yay!!!
There's also a kill doubler god which is great for pushing
can i use exp balloons on any of the w5 skills?
Nope
Probably es or dk. Bubo works as well but it isn't as great before you can get lvl 200 tentecleye since that doubles the amount of cooldown reduction. Don't do bb or vman since they struggle hard with the boss
I'll work on my book levels so that i can get the 200 tentecleye
You will probably need either the sailing relic that gives +25 lvls or rift slug companion to achieve it
yeah i was thinking of that
It will take a while to get that far in sailing
will it?
A few weeks I think
What's a good damage to aim for with the w5 boss, i just want to know what to work towards
I heard like 10m somewhere (DK)
no clue
13m isn't enough for me on my DK :(
i know ES doesn't need that much damage since of thunder barrage
whats the artifact that makes the totems always apply no matter where i am?
isn't it moai?
Believe so
alr
One of the first island ones anyway 
i just got the cat thing and im getting 400% bonus coins
should i just get as many boats as possible for sailing?
That does seem like a good idea, moar boats 
do you have to logged out of a character to gain div exp?
i'm been on a character for 2hrs roughly, 0 xp
Yes


does this apply when you are sitting in lab for div xp as well
find it kinda dumb you have to be literally OFFLINE
Why do you even active divinity in the first place 
I think lab is also like that idk for sure
okay, i thought it was sorta of a joke that div forces you to log out, but i didn't think it was this literal

whats the best place to farm cloudsound followers?
basically anywhere. they drop much more than the others.
I just get them while CCing or statue farming
30-35m
35m on DK? i thought only ES could get away with that low and even tehn its a slight gamble
so multiply my damage 10-20x got it
LOW ππ guess I gotta get better gear
nah, 30 is plenty for ES if you don't mind waiting 10 minutes. some people in here earlier today and yesterday were talking about doing it on DK at that damage too
just gotta make sure your talents are right, too
I feel that, I just recently got into w5 and im sitting at 3m lol
I mean my troll fight was so long I made dinner half way through but still
What's an average rate for statue farming? I got 9.25x DR + choco, trying to figure out what else i can do to make it faster
more DR
600 TOTAL statues right? not targetted specifi ones?
uhh, no, i was only looking at power
idk what total was
so it might have been lower like 4-500
when u start statue farming
4 star crystal chance cards, choco chip
next choco chip isnt until june π
Same that shit was miserable lol
june seems awfully soon. i think we were estimating like oct/nov
imagine not being choccy scum
But now I'm farming his ass so 
we were, it got updated to early-mid june
13/6 apparently
and another one in august i think?
i think a card doubler got pushed back, as well
huh interesting. i wonder if thats due to w6 or if chips were made to be more often
I'm excited for the card doubler I think I'll have enough fairy by then
oh ye my doublers were supposed to be may π¦
just gamba one 
i should look up what i need for doubler. i need so many of them
I know 10m fairy for one
kraken other card doubler iirc
ugh kraken
i remember X telling us to stockpile our krakens and how many we needed to print 
those were the days
the good ol days
upgraded BB to magma gear, double damage, aww yiss

bruh how did i run out of red salts
You smelled too many of them.
My BB is not even high priority right now lmao, I'm still getting DK, ES and bubo in full troll
forgot I could could level my builders in IS 
5 day construction dropped down to 4 hours
ive not been on IS in like 2 or 3 weeks lol
i'm close to 4* damage...but it's been a slog
i burned like 4 RB tickets to max out the rebirth tree and unlock the infinite perks
but damage is still so low
yea ive more or less given up on it again for a while.
not bad
stop being better than me at both games!
you go up 2.5 tiers of armor 
soon as you get doot you gonna abandon me and go hang out with your new friends in w6 chat
why fibers of absence?
ace is on a high fiber diet
because prior to the upgrade and previous map it was fine
i don't wanna check it again 
Looks like you could hit another MK tier though
The boss is behind...?
lmao they spawn in weird spots, just manually use attack skills
Ive seen one where you try to auto and it takes you through the portal
nope 
just get more dmg
i've also only got like 4 points in it
only 10k less kills though lmao
ooh, i guess my BB can actually get decent gains in rift again
need 5m again for vial mastery
ffs I thought I was done with the nullo salt grind then I realize I need 10 of these
been quite some time...
What rank is your nullo salt?
You can hourly click now π
4/5 I think, I forget but not too high
5 is extremely high for nullo
Need to upgrade my stamp some more for sure
nice, another one down
Whats the priority on these?
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
prioritize it when you unlock the collider
Im like... probably gonna unlock it tomorrow or in a day or two.
How are your prints tho? Atom collider upgrades are quite costly so if you're not printing in the 100+ millions I'd skip over it for now
Well too late now t-t
It's not a big deal since you'll max everything eventually
Thats why i hesitate to trust those guides lol. Cause i always feel like im lacking info on them.
Can someone help me with the 1 star,game sucks! quest ?
Hey guys does anyone know for the Gaming skill how far does Poing scale you up on bits based on your high score?
so dothe +15% artifact find chance in starsigns stack on all chards , for eg if i put this sign on everyone will this go skyrocket or does it only wrk on the char claiming the sailing gains ?
only works on your active character i believe
i asked this questoin once , but the higher you go the more terrible it becomes
scales slower the higher you go
any sweet spot I should be aiming for π thank you for the reply
i recon getting the achievement , after that never do it again XD
w5 achievement
It looks at it when you receive the chests by looking at the map. So you need the character going to the map to have it. Everything else doesnt matter. It wont work if you already got the chests and equip it beforr opening.
thx my dood 
shortest time going island 9? which is the fury relic, i wanna get his ancient form
This is giving major dreamy drink energy. My brain hurts looking at it.
Shortest time ? 
Any choice is fine? (Just unlock Squirrel)
its this the best setup rn?
best spot to farm silver pens with v man?
i prefer the 2x blood berseker cuz fishing/cooking is a pain in the ass
but is about preferences ig
i have 2 bb 2 es 1 bubo 1 void 1 siege 1 beast master 1 dk
Why with vman 
cuz crystal spawn%
go for 2 dk
Better to do with dk
100%
If you have somewhat low chance and choco chip
u sure? i said that too but peopleos tells me to do it with vman
Whats your crystal chance
where do i find that?
IE or IT
on characters?
Do you have ruby genie and poop cards ?
Yes
And card doublers
1 in 177
Uffff
Do you have card doublers?
on chips?
For pushing yes
Yes
nope :c

i have the choco tho
Chips are goated they double the cards in top left and down right
dk now with this preset
2 different chips for top and bottom rows
yeah ik but the rotation is poor and i didnt saw those this month
or last month
so where do i farm them
Why are you farming pens ?
Don't bother imo
Ya pens are gotten mostly during statue farming
rift 39-40
Okey you are far somewhat mid game ig
You can try farming but I don't think its worth it
You grind pens where you farm statues
Got all the bubbles?
no, i need to max the golden now
Get all the bubbles
i maxed first 3 of lvl 170 on all
Nope ?
why not? material cost is a pain in the ass for me
and in 2 days max i max 1 couldrom
Atoms 
yeah prints are kinda bad for me
Get all the bubbles thats what I would recommend
Not that bad
22M is max i can do rn
Or you could farm cards on es
Dr cards
Card drop cards
Damage cards
Crystal chance cards
https://icedsalad.idleonefficiency.com
I have the necessary 54k accuracy on my DK and am at Citringes, how do I increase my damage (currently 1.5m w/o PP) asap so I can kill Kattlekruk within my lifetime?
Start with maxing %dmg cards (snowmans, dr def, bloodbones) it will pump your dmg pretty much.
8x drop rarity is good?
finally π
What is the 999+ Gaming lvl tab?
filler / for future content
where do i locate the trader for sailing? is it on the platform with the sailing stuff?
is in the same platform as the map and treasure pile
is there a locked time? or every 2 hours or something.. how long does he stay for?
if you got the artifact it will stay there forever
is it a desert artifact and i dont have the artifact lol
Early w5, should I start trying to do things with Slab? I have a few things that are buffed like βevery 10 over 500β
do the easy one, mostly the one you already have that you didnt slab
mk
you should do rift and equinox, that gives more bonuses
The one with dreams: I donβt know what to greenstack but I think Iβm too bad at the game for that
The one where you murder things in a timeframe, too weak
with mean you need to work on your efficiency and/or prayer (royal sampler)
also work on your vman, if you didnt, and it must be the highest skill lv for W1,W2 and W3 skills
these skills*
looking for the doc that had what characters i would want for all 10, and had help with breeding and stuff too
YUP! ty
hurray
wdym why? it tells you why
the groups are all tier 1
Can you explain to me the mechanics of the snail in the game?
Think that's just how it lists it for smithing
I think it gets mail every day
Snail lvl higher = better gaming
I've been on this map so long.........
anyone know if there is a calculator for the 777 bit acheivement?
like can tell you a certain combination of bit boosters that will combine to give 777 off a certain plant?
i got it by accident
yeah i think basically everyone gets it by accident, but its probably possible to work out combinations
which give 777

grats
whats the animal box
im getting mighty close with this one
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
!merit6
if only we had a bot command channel π
they all need be divinity 2+
why would you X that @pliant ferry they are right
your active character needs to be level 2 div
Because its wrong. You don't NEED all characters to be divinity 2
You get some benefits before even having access to world 5
you only get benefits from doot once they are level 2 div
the post Ace sent, and my own experience says otherwise
it says lv 2 on all alts???
i can tell you now, you are wrong on this matter sairanos
you must have level 2 div if you want doot to work
Emphasis on this is wrong, technically would be "you don't need all characters to be div 2", just your active one. But if you want to play a different character and receive the god benefits, then they'll need to be div 2, also
I shall laugh in my broken game then when I got a magical 30% afk gains for absolutely no reasons and just happen stance was the instant I got Doot unlocked
game is broken yes
Not that broken
Got Doot, was in world 4, gained 30% afk gains. got world 5, DIDNT gain more 30% afk gains
π€·ββοΈ make your own decision. Or continue to call me wrong. It really doesn't matter to me π
me neither whats a doot anyway
Well, the intended interaction (post pet release hotfixes, at least) was that you needed to hit level 2 div. So if that's not working, then yes, game is broken
or perhaps my testing was prior to hotfixes. I don't remember reading those
Time to make 200+ new accounts to reroll free pet to get a doot and test it
so you are still wrong then. just cause you did something before a fix doesnt make it correct still. as i said, you need lvl2 div to make doot work, why would i be talking about a pre-hotfix for if it doesnt mean anything now
It's ok. Everything will be ok
Why would you not mention a hotfix if it clearly addressed the item I was talking about? π€£
is actively card farming on my ES, while pushing through w5 on my DK, with everyone else in lab w/ Doot except my last character I need to get equinox dream 3 fine for pushing w5, I saw somewhere that when pushing w5 you put everyone in divinity except the active player
"It used ot be that way but it got hot fixed" Ok cool, I didn't know. good discussion
now for the red salt end game
Not sure when exactly it came out, but seems like ~3 weeks after companion launch is when I first talked about it
first mention in discord is... 6/22, so like a week or 1.5 weeks after?
How much damage is needed to reach w6
Time to find out when I got doot!
No steam achievement for getting Doot? What a scam
bamboozled!
But also saw at least one person who said they got doot benefits in world 3 so 
I want to help. Productive conversations are important for chat!
there's surprisingly way fewer posts with "div level 2" in it than I expected
except no one is against you, you aint that special to be remembered
just correcting your faults
A good 4 months after release. But again I don't remember seeing anything about a hot fix. No notes on it either
Hey w5 idleoners
How do you think, what level should towers have for normal worshiping of w5 souls?
Gold bars need to be worth 777k ish not the resource
Correcting faults is explaining, a mod should know this? π not just saying people are wrong deal with it
been quite some time...
wake up to updates 
is it live?
06/17/2023 4:34 PM
Apparently you get all the bonuses without even having to unlock divinity
Found posts about it being that way @bleak gazelle but can't find ANY posts about it changing. Makes me wonder if all the people that got Doot and it was broken, were able to push into divinity so fast it kinda got overlooked
β 02/28/2024 11:34 PM
My doot is a lie
Ok but actually my doot isnt working lab isnt connecting properly
Good news it was some time inbetween October and Feb!
Here are the earliest messages I could find about it. The second one has someone else also talking about getting it in w3 and it working so 
#idleon-gen-chat message
#lategame-chat-w5π-w6πΈ message
I'd be inclined to agree with you more, but the amount of people who come in here after getting doot asking where the benefits are makes it seem like it requires level 2
I'm sure you saw the same, a bunch of people saying the last character slot it wasn't working on too
β 10/21/2023 8:44 PM
You need to reach W5 and get lvl 2 Divinity on each character
If i cant onyx statues easily i should just keep depositing them correct like i shouldnt hold onto all of them
isnt there something that makes water go into upgrades if the cauldron is full
i have like 12.5k statues just chillin but of all kinds
Which is interesting.... I got mine on I think 10/22. So maybe that bug still exists? and of course peopel who get doot in world 1 and have all the abilities never question it
Equinox cloud
Every onyx statue you unlock gives you a 10% bonus to statues you deposit. Ideally you'll want to hold on to most until you have more unlocked. Should be fine with crit chance since you only need to cap at 200% and maybe speed? Can't remember if damage caps for bowman talent
β 06/26/2023 3:28 AM
Is Doot bugged for people who got it before W5? I heard it gives the bonuses of Divines not unlocked but none are active for me
Sorry, so i should still be holding onto statues even though i wont even be able to onyx my quest statues for a long long while?
Smol gainz
I don't think it got hotfixed. I think its still an active bug
I need some tips for sailing
better/proper captains
upgrade boats and captains, get new islands, repeat π
Oh, I misread, thought you said you could. You should be fine depositing any non-W3 statue. I'd also hold onto power statues
W3 are a pain to farm and you need power for the quest 
well how often are you checking your boat chests
Yea i heard power statues are insanely horrid and why non -w3 statues?
power statues are not the worst. they are just somewhat slow.
2h avg
ohh i thought that power statues were only from quests or something silly
thats kapows π
POW statues
ohhh so everything but power and w3 gotcha
W3 sucks more
i shoulda giga stack my ES with some carry cap and start manually farming vial mats
Also whats a good damage amount to go for last w5 boss?
we still rush to world 6 right now that its out or should i take w5 super slow
30 to 40mil should be enough
im at 28 currently so good to know
On es and dk that is
after i upgrade weapon once i get frigid souls i should be okay i think
power statues because that starts the quest. W3 is probably the worst because they mainly drop from regular mobs instead of crystal, so rates are much slower and you're farming on ES
im on ES
ES is still good to farm mobs on right for statues or is it better for dk?
for w3, yes, ES. for others you'll want DK
the DR from Orb is pretty big and you there's never any mob respawn downtime
How works sailing travels?
1st island say 25m minimum time travel and 110m max, when i select a boat say 2h, is 1 chest every 2h or what?
minimum sail time starts at 2hr and can be reduced from various bonuses. so you want ships to go to islands that they can reach w/i 2 hrs so you maximize # chests, captain xp, etc.
the 25m is the island distance. m does not mean minutes
the 25m is your travel distance not time
should not say 25m minimum - but basically it is just each island has a distance and each boat has a speed - and in general you have a cap - so yes that means at the start every 2h a chest
If you multiply your boat speed by 2, any island with that distance can be reached in minimum time 
At least until your minimum time decreases

how often should i redeem the dna points in gaming
So, is 25 meters and minimum time travel is 110 mins?
Oh i see
So, boats giv me 3 chests every 2h?
Should be ~4 hours, 2 hours to get to the island + 2 hours to get back
Though actually 3 hours and 40 minutes
next to boat
Speed upgrades aren't that useful for your first few islands, but you'll definitely need them later on 
good captains + upgraded boats -> your path to getting all the artifacts
Pretty often, at 0.1% chance
so its bad to hoard them for a higher percent?
if you are at chemplants, that's usually best course of action
what round do i have to beat to start collecting souls from that totem?
im at blossom
depends on what yo uare trying to unlock
the 5th plant
you can hoard a little, but usually better for more rolls at slightly lwoer %
is 19% enough?
im at 5.6% at blossom
remember alchemy unlocks, where anything above 5% is amazing? same idea. 19% is godsend type rolls
It should be based off how much you get on harvesting. yeah 19% is other wordly odds
me @ chem plants, gamba-ing on 0.5%
so 5.6 is a good attempt than
10
okay i think imma give this frigid soul attempt again.. cause im only 10 lvls from recommended to hit 40
doing 5.6 a lot of times is very comfy
fair enough ty
like when you first get late game alch bubbles. and think 0.1% oh wow I will wait until I find the thing that increases this odd
start over π«
what lol
I change servers when that happens
kill them faster or void tower
I've had countless attempts on 1 of each tower, where my rolly polly just stopped.
welcome to mid-game TD
i think he's running frosty, so he's encountering stunners for first time
Well the bug itself was they werent doingdamage i got to round 7 before they actually did damage... but they were count against me
if they have * * * circling around them, means they got stunned by stun wave
There are guides to help. but if you are wanting to experience learnign it on yourself. I did the same and I started setting up sacrificial towers. a few spaces ahead of my main group
you get these first in deeper acorn, but very early in frosty - main reason why a lot of people struggle getting frigid souls
its not a bug, its an actual mechanic
And so the early stunners, usually popped on my sacrifice tower, and the others would group up and all die on the same tower somewhere in the mid of my main group
and as soon as they start spawning, I stop skipping wave timers
no the bug itself was that nothing was happening.. i was attacking and doing no damage they were going to the totem and not counting against me... i got to wave 7 before it started doing properly
yeah highly recommend changing servers then
so the stunners dont the stun the next available one?
They stun everything within their area when they die
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg01U4OAEFY this is a good 'guide' to get 40 for very early frosty prog w/ low towers
Much easier approach than Fireball strat, but requires you to have decently leveled Boulder and Stormcaller towers.
If you have any question feel free to ask me on discord: abgreyd#0283
thats what im looking at now actually lol. he starts with so many points lol
make sure you equip the cards for starting points
I like the thumbnail of 12 kraken towers π€£
if you successfully get past 40, you very likely cannot get past 50 without a voidinator.
so this is why 40 is early/mid stopping point for frosty
the cost of entry to get your first frigid souls is quite large. Deffiniately a milestone worth remembering
its like an early warning sign to nullo salts
i remember this. then i did cans/citric and died at 250 cost
YUP! man that map is RUTHLESS
now w6 cost 700
it hurts, and cost is so high its not even good xp per charge either
everytime i see someone ask for review and their ES is 50+ lvl in worship while rest of roster is 1 with npc skull still, i cry for them knowing the uphill battle they have to get un-soul-locked
I did it too. Doesn't everyone?
if you get warned early enough or watch other review type vods, you can educate yourself
i really wish the worship guides would take syphon charge out of their info
lol nahhhh smash button! beeg number! overflow charge go zooooom
its such a trap for early players
in my case it was "better" since I had other account bonuses, my worship was filling "quickly" I had no idea I could go days without having to worship π€£
I was just treating it like a 10 hr trap π€·ββοΈ
I'm just now starting to upgrade all my skulls
the uptick in soul requirements hit hard and fast fr
Skill mastery possible?
what do i need to do to increase the book lv range in the library
if you mean the rift bonus, can't just tell from 1 class. the challenges require use of at least 3 diff classes
Other two (small es and bb )are around 13m max damage
awesome thank you!
its specifically DK SB and ES
Any tips for this?
DK orb is one of the harder ones
I maxed the talent
talent is one half, other is getting kills fast enough
you may need to semi-manual it to make it move between platforms faster and have full speed pots equippe
My refinery is ass currently
so dk damage is low
just your usual suspects for damage if your refinery is behind
Oh
I should really book my BM breeding talents
Yes
Put all speed potions
If you have potato chip in lab, it helps
Place knight on the below platform
Does this mean all kills including afk kills or only kills with the skill
pretty sure its active only
Active only
Thnx
loot value or boat speed?
if early sailing, speed
if capped on speed, then obv loot value better
alr ty
dumb question. I'm in world 5, my DK is my pusher and he's 205ish. My bubo, who I'd like to start autolooting with, is only 120ish. Is it worth it to try to juice my sad alchemy at this point?
How does trap box vacuum work with 5d traps?
the first time you login after the 5 days is up it will auto collect
if you're already on when the 5 days rolls over, you'll have to manually collect, unless it's during your daily reset, as well
i feel like mine auto collected yesterday while i was on when nblb hit. but i could be wrong.
bubo can catch up pretty fast, specially if you have choco chip
ah, if daily reset hit while you're on then that would make sense
how many hot-dog i need to craft 10k gold peanut?
for the bean tree
people too lazy for math 
so 22m since you'll need to reach 110k total
plus another 20m to not loose the gs
plus prob another 40m to have stack to equip on miner
does it stack if you have it on stalk and equip?
yes :3
oh dang. i should prob do my stalk sometime then lol
it count as a different stack as far as how much it give
also yea hows that work with the beanstalk. does it just give you the amount based on your food cap max? or is it a set amount
like you have 11k from stalk multiplier + x from equip multiplier , not added togheter
basically if 110k bean stalk give you let say +100% and a 10k stack in you inventory give you + 15% you get both of those bonus. how exactly are they added together, that i do not know really, beside the fact that its not like you would simply have a stack of 120k
ill have to play with it a bit when i decide to do it and figure all that out
bottom line is thats its a net gain to have the beanstalk maxed and still use the golden food
since you have to have atleast a 10k food carry cap to even drop a 10k stack
magma bag fix that pretty easy
Can I use any divinity style I want if I have doot?
oh man thats so easy to craft too. just need a butt load of cheese
I cant even hold that many though thats the problem lol
check if lustre bags are enough, else you'll need to bite the nullo bullet to make the starfire bags
yea i dont have really any green to spare atm. so ill check eventually
check you total carry cap on ie/it with the highest food bag you can afford and see from there
i skipped to dreadlo from void cuz salts are pain
yeah i know, eventually go back to make them for slab when you can afford to
might stop CCing and go back to statues again lol. not really sure what else to do other than ES farming vial mats
just need souls and bars and i can get this easily
easier to make
but i need 10 more lvls and i can use them comfortably
halfway there
I found the flowers miles easier than a gazillion godshard bars
Is it bad luck to get 4 kruk necklaces, 8 obols, but 0 cape?
Feels like I should have had at least 1 drop by now lol
How do I get the poopy Pete talent
Wondering what I should switch to farming after pearlers.. maybe try for more w5 recipes
Is that vial realistic at all
about a realistic as pickle lol
Eh I'm almost at 75 which is all I want for now, to make 3 troll chests
I can come back to get more later
Man i understand the concept of RNG but dang im unlucky
3 dice obols in 10 hours of farming
17 attempts to hit the 20% chance to upgrade 
What's your dr/crystal chance?
Man even without card doubler chips 1/202 seems really low
oh i lied DR is 10.67x
Hover over the icon and show the sources of your crystal spawn chance
Think its almost time to farm some kruk
Never got that talent 
Go get it!
didn't know about it 
lol that will help fix your spawn chance
picnic
Oh it's the picnic thing; welp this'll take a while
Gracias
Special Talents (also called Star Talents) can be obtained from Special Talent Books. Some come from drops, some from Quests, some from Secrets, and some from each world's Taskboard Merit Shop. When you use a Special Talent book to learn a talent, that talent is learned for all characters on your account.
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You only need to do the quest once right?
At this point in the game it should take you like 5minutes to get
id be suprised if you didnt already have everything for it
That is only for the trophy. Star talent is a few steps before that
i know, i want the trophy?
LET ME MAKE FUN OF YOU
we can read?
You know what they say about when you assume
no
that is a daily per character as well. so 30 can be done in 3 days if you have all the material saved up
u guys think its better to use magma cape with 30% DR, or phoenix wings for damage, on active ES farming pearlers?
Depends on dmg tier jump or not
Oh that's really good to know ty
obv the more multi per tier you have, the more important jumping tiers is
its not really about damage tier because its not a base mat, im more wondering whether killing more wormhole mobs beats the DR
it probably does tbh
Oh that's pretty dope, maybe i'll just bang'm out this week
Can always test it to see how many more mobs you get
do some super crude napkin math, and call it a success
This is only for jman right?
ye
Sad ok
It would be so nice if it got an eclipse enhancement to be for all characters
Maybe for infinilyte
is there any bonus that doubles "LAARRYY" bubble ?
cuz i just did some bubble upgrades, my Larry is only 31%, and it proc like 5 times in a row
That's just good rng
Ah okay, just wondering if there is any hidden bonuses i was unaware about
No new updates from lava today, bro must be depressed
we all are
google had enough and made him disappear
this would break the game, we can already get below 1/25 crystal spawn on other classes
I've been in divinity for a century I've finally attained level 15 on one chacter.
Ive also reached the level requirements for vman but I still gotta wait for divinity
no real reason not to have at least one person working on you deathnote kills, since you have arctis 
probably your BB to get zows and work towards chows
I mean, you'll want divinity levels on everyone eventually, but if you don't want to be perma afk for however much longer and you have Arctis unlocked, then you have access to lab bonuses, so you're usually fine to pull one person off of the altar
you'll just swap them back onto it sometime later
later on you'll do it again for chows and super chows 
Das a fight for a later day 
day 4 of divinity grind---only 2 people are level 5 and im crying
i got that recipe yesterday...but i don't want to put people on goat again 
dooty π
lava when trading 
I'm a long way away from getting those haha just got into w5 a couple days ago
love how the traps are just haphazardly placed
overlap for full effectiveness π
Aaaaa, I hate chemical plants
Just wanted to clear my gaming real quick, now I'm sitting on 9 and they just keep comiiiiing
So Iβve upgraded my weapons in W1 party dungeons so I canβt get the lower level weapons. But I havenβt played dungeons as every class so does this mean I just canβt get these weapons for the slab?
just go poke hte slab in w5 and it will count them
How much drop rate do you need for hampters to drop at least at bearable rate? Have 14.97 on es and boi.... I get more golden ones than normal
I do not believe there is an achieveable drop rate for that
i had about that much on my ES and was able to farm like 250-300 in 1.5-2 days?
damage also matters
need 1050m of them
i havnt even bothered to start with them yet. maybe i should since im just CCing and spamming clicks on exp bubble
so its not like im doing anything productive
i just let it run while i was doing construction in IS 
imagine not giving up on IS
IS?
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time to gamble for card doublers 
Pls teach, how to?
lul, card doublers are just lab chips
there are two different ones, one for top left card and one for bottom right card
they're both colored black
if we hit, do you double the genie/poop for crystal spawn
or do you double Thermo and Doot for drop rate?
both crystals, afaik
even if its not technically better, I think more crystals is best because more shiny

easy
Third person here getting that chip on quicklly recently
Crystal if DK, DR if ES?
I would probably do crystal on ES as well
You eventually gets so much DR that doubling 1 card doesn't do a ton while crystal spawn rate will always be significant
yea my DR is only like 14 and i still double my crystals
helps more with CC and statues
i was just saying for ES W3 statues since they're base mob drops
maybe dunno havnt looked. i know most people do eyes for black lenses
even tho bones are giga nice on a DK
3 W3 statues are only from specific enemies
oooo look lunch break time. afk
One day
I'm not sure what would be best to double then, it could even be damage for bigger wormhole numbers
damn your crystal chance today π
you trippled your crystal chance
what's the highest crystal chance you guys have seen?
1 in 23
that beats me, I'm at 3.3%
it caps out at around 8% im pretty sure
i have 7.44% without too much pushing

is 1 in 10 possible on vman if 1 in 23 is possible on dk?
i think you can get 1 in 9 on vman
i got this on vman but with lavas math its closer to 1 in 9
idle skilling question for the pros, after/when reaching the purgatory my hit chance is 0%, i need to lvl up hit chance or im missing a major/minor bonus/skill ?
What is your attack? There is a decent jump going into purgatory, but I did bug once where my hit went to 0% and I could only fix with ascending
Does mob respawn affect the moles in boss fight? I cant kill the moles on void faster than they spawn
And I am killing them in one hit
you have to juggle the skills
whats ur dmg
dmg is fine, you could up your crit fs, but its doable with that
make sure to use all the abilities vman has for dmg
juggle between attacks
the big aoe one used in speedrunning helps a lot
fight will take you a while though
I did it. Took 30 mins, but I did it
which kruk to grind for the rare drops?
Considering wings only drop from nightmare, I think the answer is obvious.
what about for the amulet? cuz i dont really care about the wings other than +1 slab
chaotic is technically better odds for amulet.
Yep
Be mindful of the trophy too since that requires you to drop the wings
Yeah just a choice to make, either farm for necklaces or farm for necklace and cape to get trophy.
i might try with like 2k keys
I dunno but I'm at like 2400 and it doesn't feel enough
lmao 800 keys i got a wing and 2 obols
You Can't Run, but you Can Hide quest im next to the cactus where i got maestro but its not doing anything
oh i just have to talk to him again never mind
What's the usual best thing to buy in killroy's shop
Timer to 60-70
Is enough for equinox
Dunno if respawn is broken or fixed. I hear conflicting things on that
Other than that itβs just preference
Oh i mean the skull shop not the upgrades
Oh you meant shop shop xD
ahh, always wondered why respawn was kept at 1
I'd say books until you get the 1k achievement, at least

i love me some refinery cycles
I used to buy library books after i got fury to eldritch, now i just buy refinery for the green, purple and black salts
bro i keep gaining dmg and i have no idea where from
Maybe class bonus
Dk?
nah on my bubo.
nah idk what it is. vials are all already green or better.
shiny is just inf star pets or refinery pets.
its prob somethin silly small that just stacked an exttra 4b or so dmg on
If you're in W6 is it crop depot?
That is silly small so could be 
thats possible maybe. but seems like a lot of dmg for a few crops
Whatβs your total damage?
i was at like 20b this morning and 24b now so
idk man my crop depot is anything but small
Oh, then probably not crops, unless all your other dmg % is also silly small
You mentioned shiny pets, did you get a star sign that gives dmg?
Also there's other weird things like some sailing artifacts scale with gold
actually i think i did adjust my star signs around lemme test that
yea that coulda been it
i dont recall when i asjusted them but it seems most likely
i have automation arm ( its turned on) how do i get it to pull ore from my chest
iirc it pulls once per day at reset
if your bars fill up before reset then it stops production until reset pulls them
it should pull automatically all the time, thats how the SB's forge claiming works
ohhh i see i see.... so it can finish prior to the reset and i have to manually do it
I think you just need to claim afk gains and it should fill? idk mine does it just fine
do u have it turned on?
i even turned it off and back on
claim afk gains on who anyone?
Yeah
the forge automatically just refills, if you claim a day of forge progress then check your forge, you'll see the bars in there, (they get deposited on reset) but the ore should refill automatically
so if i log out and log back in it will reset it ?
no i did i swapped to another character
yeah try it, note that it's archers with the 'forge progress per kill' talent that procs forge progress, so that might kickstart it?
So swapping characters didnt reload the forge
Might be a silly question but do you have gold ore in your storage chest? and have you checked the automation arm is active?
well i have automation arm so that should be the one to do it
Yes and yes, i have 120k gold ore
and ill double check arm but i neevr turned it off
Claim afk gains on an archer
Try putting enough gold ore into the forget to get it to start, then log onto an archer and claim afk gains
I believe youβre thinking of the anvil production pipeline for that one
before and after for me claiming archer afk gains
i wonder if i need to fill it first?
Did i unlock something in W5 that handles my traps or something? its been like 3 hours since i last checked (it was 7 hours at that time)
rift will collect traps on daily reset
F
ye
Why are bowmen used for gmush farming?
dmg high mush die lots
Also added bonus of forge progress
indirectly it make u fast
Oooooh, I was wondering why my reset time changed. That explains it.
whats the best place to farm obol frags
Ok ty
snelbie if you dont have that card max yet
For the Apoc Zow how does it work exactly?
Option A: I have a monster and I kill it 1 million times, that counts as 10 instances and thus +40% damage.
Option B: I have a monster and I kill it 1 million times, but it only counts as 1 since it's over 100k and thus only +4% damage?
isnt that a w2 question lol. It counts once per monster so B
Oh woops sorry, didn't realize I wasn't in there. I was earlier but I guess I changed channels at some point
But thank you
For specificity, it actually counts Maps not enemies. There are a few special cases where an enemy is on 2 different maps and you can get 1 stack on each map. Such as the Poops surrounding Dr. Def in The Office map
Huh okay, interesting. And one more clarification in that regards, it's specifically the stuff the BB themselves has hit >100k on yes?
I.e. getting 100k on DK means nothing
Correct
Ok thanks love
Is the 2x print boost from lab stack to 5x with the hare prayer?
6x
u shud sample only to keep vman highest lvl anyway
Unless you're going for new tools of course
What does that mean? 
don't actually catch or you get too much exp
Oh I see how you mean now
100b damage on vman enough for nkruk ?
he has 1000T health
The 2x-loot skill of mman works on bosses right?
Does having more than 1 captain/ship discovering a cloud in sailing help?
What's the goal after divinity level 40?
what improves the nuggets
You can level up the shovel, and that's all I know of
equinox
and shovel
also how do you get the diffrent color

god danm
I would love to unlock this, too bad my equinox is clogged up by shitty dungeon dreams
what u need for that one anyway
Equinox Jail represent :c
i'm locked behind the 2k kills in 1 kilroy run
can u even be locked behind that one, its very late no? I'm stuck there too
The dungeons are bad, especially with the party finding, but the dreams are surprisingly manageable. https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1219722800223354931
I may have linked that to you before
Yeah.
I breezed through the dungeon ones because I was r50
oh 
I just need a good map with bubo and I can complete that 
is there a faster way to get the accurency statut its the last im missing from w1 to onyx and its painful
are u active ES at wood mush?
hum divine knight because i need to raise divinity and lab on es and i need orb bonus
only have 201k orb
ho wait wood mush
they drop 5 statut in comparaison wow that will be way faster
does multikill affect portal kills at all? or just damage tiers?
just now unlocked chem plant, what's the gameplay loop look like for gaming now?
it does affect portal kills
the same. forever spamming plants for weeks on end. it doesnt change or get more fun. actually more of another chore
now instead of gaming for 1-2 minutes. you can pick plants for 30mins to an hour
can confirm spent 1 hour picking plants earlier
need an auto picker at this point
bruh im spamming harvest all and sprrinkler and im still easy 30 mins. i do not pick my plants lol thats waaaay too much for rme personally
so, I havent really touched my BB but was wondering when I should start farming zows
super chows?
no, zows lol




