#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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did u click auto twice
nope just turn auto on, 5mins later he stops, happens consistently
only in this map though
ah well, oranges overnight instead
I spent a night doing wurms on dk, it was fine.
weird, its not happening at oranges
just got a void coin, why did my dementia, etc. disappear
once you get 5 colours it truncates on the 6th
Does that mean I somehow dropped that recipe? I got an adept recipe from an earlier area, don't have anvil tab 5 to check if i got that one specifically, and i dont think i dropped one of those
if its on the card yu dont have it
why is my bubo so bad at kills per hoour?all my characthers beat 2000 per hour but my bubo kill only 100 per hour
bubo takes alot to get going, but it shines at active not afk
so what will be the best clas to push world 5
maybe bb if you candy or dk/es for active
DK, Bubo can take over later. I'm personally sticking to dk, bubo lag is annoying
Only missing anni hat and classic beanie but I'm not getting there
Except if rng wakes up
HH is on, any gamer ?
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Still waiting?
I'll try to come
late
what does div level do except for es talent
unlock type of prayer ?
oh right i forgot about those i have not changed any in ages lol
Bro's gonna lose
Couldn't find a party, was constantly crashing prob due to too many players
(I could switch to pc but no)
we are 7 out of 10
- Div 50 allows you obtain Multitool stamp.
- Affects the strength of your current and shared Minor Link. (Ex: Goat from other characters)
ohh ok the minor link increases too nice thx
yes, and it is based on ur character div level, for gods such as Goat.
how much damage do i need on DK for kattlekruk
level 50 dungeon rank gets a bit stupid.....
If you can kill the moles fast you can kill kruk on DK
I think people have talked about doing it with 20-30m, 50m to be safe? But so much more matters than sheet dmg with DK because of crit and crit dmg. If you have spare keys maybe just test it
The mole test accounts for that. The only way to fail kruk is not being able to kill the healing moles fast enough and dk won't have any issue killing them with the statue if they have enough damage to kill moles quickly
with statue, DK should be able to do it lower sheet dmg than anyone else I think
That is the reason ES or DK are recommended for kruk. They can both deal with moles easily requiring less damage
what level should my DK be?
Level doesn't matter, there are no soft caps that make you hit or miss more
is bubo statue farming in w5 equally good to dk farming statues?
is maestro transfusion good
Extremely strong for smithing, worship and trapping. It may have use elsewhere in the very endgame with crazy efficiency
is king of the remembered accountwide
ah ok
That the printer output from dk?
yea
Assuming a dk has it leveled it's on everyone
nvm i misread it as sample size
So trying to get my Vman to 500, do I do this AFK or Active with abusing his 1 in 10 Crystal Chance?
and Choccy Chip
active is slow but if you have tons of mob respawn it can work
lots of mob respawn and the ability to kill quickly.
He oneshots mobs and Crystals on the map, however, not sure how good the respawn is.
Lanterns is also a kinda big map (trying to get him to Leeks I guess?) so he has to do a lot of running.
meh so close.
It's faster to active him almost all the time, but something worth mentioning is the backend cost. Active DK or Bubo or SB is lightyears better. So you are sacrficing a lot more gains else where just to get him a few more levels a few days faster
Yeah. I already hit 500 on DK, Bubo, ES and SB
Not sure why im even trying to push for 5k
Find his best afk xp/hr map. set him and look back in 5 days.
Profit
There is no respawn buff from World 6 Merit as well.
Even if its not 100% best setup ever, you lose what 5-15%? Again DK can make that up in 3 hours
If you have doot, you pretty much should never active Vman ๐คฃ
what should the 11th and 12th characters be once they come out
Prob the new classes
Is there a strat pinned somewhere for solo w1 dungeon?
If you're on steam and have coin flip unlocked this could help https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1219722800223354931
Everytime I asked, people would tell me to look it up on youtube ๐คฃ
bluh
I did use a coin flip to finally clear mine. Stay away from bulwark it has done nothing but screw me over. Even in runs that I got 0 crit, bulwark is just bad
Isnt it just always Foal (???) ?
Maybe one day when there is an item to increase attack speed, but I even tried it with the R50 attack speed, and it feels bulwark over rides it and I went to 1 attack every 4-5 seconds. Was awful
ES is the king of farming Hampters, yes?
Sooo does sovereign give 4x or 8x
x5
Interesting lol
I gave up trying to figure out the math behind any thing. Number go up - good. Number go down - bad
Except that number. That number go down - good
It does what the artifact says. 2x for normal, 3x for ancient, 4x for edritch, 5x for sov
Knowing is half the battle "how do number go up" let's you push it further
Oh yeah I forgot about Eldritch lol yeah 5x makes sense
just found a use for this. if you buy it, the game immediately updates your liquid on display. ๐๏ธ

im mod world 5 how much damage should i be doing for kattlekruck
Enough to 1 shot kill biggole mole mobs
depends on class can vary on avg from 35m to 100m needed
Yay my onyx quest is done I can onyx statues now
is it done on all 10 characters though.
no
you have just cracked the tip of the iceberg my friend
So true
i have a metric butt load of statues but im waitng until i try to get vial mastery
so i can get huge gains
My statues are sitting and rotting because I know, I don't know anythign about them. and haven't looked up the right way to do it yet
Same, I am also trying to level my snake skin vial
same chance....
that reminds me
damn
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This is why I lock them in my inventory, so I don't accidentally deposit them
One day I'll figure it out. Today is not that day.
yall are brave to even look, i'd be afraid i'd accidentally sneeze and hit the deposit button and just die
alt+f4 and pray to lava the cloudsync didn't take ๐คฃ
you mean rip out ethernet cord immediately then alt f4, flip power switch on pc, and pray
congrats
flash toward the main electrical switch and close the power
What were your prints on snakeskin?
What is the reccomended damage to start pushing w5 on a divine knight
I don't think there is a reccomended damage. There is a reccomended setup. Get Goat first
w5 start is like w4. w4 i would wait for KBS for 2x portals. similarly, w5 i would wait for nobisect unlock for an additional 2x portal (which should be supported by others who are on bear to keep KBS lit up). rest of roster should remain on div grind until you can get goat, then back to lab until div40/lab75 is reached for everyone. the damage goal by end of w5 is bare minimum 25-30M for DK to attempt kattle.
ayo nice, think i'm around 500m or so
Can anyone with high knowledge of this game get in a call with me and try and help me better understand the game( Currently at world 2/3)
Hmmm. Considering I actually am mid-W5, I'd say that's close.
Hah like my oral english was at the same lvl as my texting
guess i should finally work on these
the divine scarf is really good
I'm locked on chaotic in 30s
best pendant in the game
stuck on bb then on vman
don't think my vman is ready for that just yet 
though who knows, i ahven't checked in a while
contemplating whether I want to actually do this right now 
New damage tier unlocked ๐ฆฆ, would this much be enough for world 6?
Early portals for easy constellations? Yes.
Bamboo Spirit and beyond? Not enough.
It might be enough if you have normal multi kill instead of multikill per tier? ๐คฃ
enough for nh kruk or i should reconsider
Review whatever mechanics you ignored. Just bcs something never says damage or skilling does not mean you should ignore.
Step 1 in playing idleon, ignore all the things equally
It's more like not having the 10k primary stat to make good use of Tab 4 Kill count talents.
I didn't see anything in pinned. Is there an optimal way to setup ships for treasures while I'm waiting to unlock sovereign artifacts? Or just kinda put them wherever?
To make sure I ain't tripping...there is indeed 7 evos for plants right? Not 6?
correct
Cool. So they ain't lying when they say shit is rare lol
...8? ๐คฃ jokes on you
well, 7 assuming you have the bonuses to unlock them 
oh wait, just checked it's 8
Can assume that you want to focus on artifacts that boost Sailing first.
or however many 
OH thats right cause w6
the gaming wiki has gifs for the evos
forgot g food
I'm stuck at 6 evos
That's my Vman dmg
They don't exist
me sitting at 46/72 lol

54 lol
gaminig is nothing but pain, prove me wrong
same ๐ฆ
Snail is cancerous
but I only got chem plant like a couple weeks ago, so no rush really. I still am so far from the jade emp upgrades
Legit can't stand it
imagine having snail 
I got knocked from 19 to 15 3 times
my snail is at 12 ๐ฟ
400B right now...
You're better off without it. It's nothing but agony
lmao
i mean gaming is already agony without it
honestly, best part of gaming is when it's just basic plants
It's like a tease. You think that those juicy 40% chance to go up and 12% chance to fail is good....but nah
give me the leaves, wow numbers. great gameplay
Meanwhile many players already whining at early world mechanic 
Lava lies on his numbers lmao
everything else, 0 stars
not to mention
what's worse, doot rng or nugget 
nugs baby
my last 2 nug upgrades were month in the making for....100k upgrade each time
it was really easy
when do you guys think event will end, like, how many hours from now?
i got two in a day, went from 9.5k for months to 12k then 36k
yuge 4x gains
it says april 22nd, where i am its the 22nd now, im assuming its american time, but like, the minute it turns to 22nd? or end of 22nd? any experience from past events?
but still 
Daily reset can be modified.
You have the equinox upgrade?
yeah
So I assume it's something else
oof. Thats rough
I rolled a 1.7m right before equinox but after it...which is supposed to be like huge gains...they were those 100k only upgrades.
Now people are in the 100m+ ranges
can it end without an update though? ๐คฃ
google helping us out with longer events. the real MVP
Grinding my 3rd set of cooking clogs, gggghhhh
The whole google thing is a doozy. As a semi-end gamer....I'm dying inside lol. I use steam but alas...goog be googin
well, hopefully he can get platform independent updates figured out relatively soon
does that mean we won't have to wait for iOS? 
God damn ๐ฆ
Depending on what is added, this will be the first time I think I can start it immediately. All the other additions where well outside of my accoutn ability
It's implied, yeah
me too!
Seems that merits and achievements will be easyish for everyone to get right off the go
The rift stuff could be iffy
i mean ill only be able to do the very early achievemtns, but still
yeah, i'm around vial mastery level and it's getting a bit slow
although it was handy he reduced the star sign afk times right when i needed to do some of those
I should focus on star signs again at some point, I really want to unlock the third set
They're huge endgame
I'm sure they are
infinite starsigns are so nice
I've almost got all of the first page infinite 
Don't forget to upgrade Nothing
breeding 60 makes the rest of unlocks so much more obtainable
As a tip...I believe if you don't upgrade one on the red page, you'll skip past to the green in w6. I may be mistaken but I've seen that happening
im at 10/100 with nothing, i dont have enough dead dna coming in to upgrade it more
i made huge gains in breeding yesterday
i unlocked snelbie with like 8 eggs with a 1/1000 chance when i was just trying to get breeders of the giants to roll for snelbie later
and then i rolled through 2 spice zones and got 5th slot unlock immediately
Woo! Back to top 10%. I'd like to take this moment to thank all the new players here diluting the leaderboard and making me look better than I really am.
How many tome points is that?
I can't even see all the tome lines, let alone score high in them ๐ซ
Wow not much higher than me. I guess those last points really od get tough
Here's the bottom of mine.
Oh we have the same ones unlocked. I'm just a failure. Copy! ๐
i'm at 12k, only up to here 
well look at that! 3 more levels and you get like 70 more points
I pushed through w5 with ~3-4k kills per hour, am I stupid?
Naive
i mean, you already did it, so does it matter that much? 
Might be a touch low
yeah, think minimum recommeded is around 30m an that can still take ~10 minutes
just make sure you're working on alch, stamps, cards, cardsets, star signs, equinox, po box for damage 
ok thanks
auto review is a life safer when it comes to stamps and bubbles
If you have an IE or IT, you can use the auto review tool to give you an idea of what to focus on https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/
Or feel free to post either in chat for a roast
yeah I've been using that, it helped me a lot
omg it took me all this time to kill nh kruk with vman
more than my ES 
lmao
one day i'll get there
it was so stressful
How long did it take you
from the last time i spoke till now
-10min bc i did nh with other char
I haven't farmed for keys in so long. W6 is too distracting
Wow our vman look nothing alike in terms of stats
You have double its crit damage and 3x its speed.
i was using speed potion to go back and forward
5k defense on vman ๐ซ
divine scarf here i come
It is neat to see how wildly accounts can be different despite us all following the similar path to go forward
also 5 merits away to complete w5/all merit shop
I hope W6 merits are more active to obtain. W5 just felt like a giant AFK board
i hope i can use recipe unlock thing
I think a mod posted that's not intended to be used again
recipe drops are the way of the future!
sadness, i wanted to get extra free gem
but 3 more columns 
and by now, we all have so many trophies it would all insta unlock anyway
But remember...... hoard like a dragon. Just in case......
yeah
inb4 10k trophies for 1 gem 
gem is gem
I just want the last 2 zones so I can cry when I try to make the new material pouches
where can i find marble ores?
equinox valley
equinox valley where? im currently on sleepy skyline i havent see marble ores yet
how much damage for w5
here + you need to unlock it from equinox bubble
:OOOOOOO
for w5 boss? like 30m-80m depending on class
no tilt best tilt
oh, forgot i was on crystal cards, so my ES damage is now higher than your vman 
brother
30-35m is fine for DK, though boss fight may take ~10 minutes
its fine
- accuracy*
im mid w5 and currently dealing 3mil any advice
alch, stamps, cards, card sets, star signs, po box, equinox. same as always 
Wats the fastest way to rush through w5
can look at my ie
Yeah, feel free to drop it here, can also use the auto review tool
i cant wait to reach Pozzo Cocito once i have everything maxed
pozzo cocito is w6 stuff
So its top down?
im gonna get roasted
ill get back to you once my nuggets find the smoke bombs
everything always leads to alchemy, so yeah, top down 
i already got way too many logs!!! i just want a damn smoke bomb
alchemy is the bottom of hell
Less than 20 books you get the thumbs up from me ๐
the alchemy neglect is real though ๐คฃ
Assuming your account isn't that old based on character levels, so most of this is just going to be "you need some more time" but gimme a sec to look through it
Nah, that person in here yesterday with a bunch of level 1 bubbles was rough
lmao
when you have more arcade upgrades, than alchemy upgrades
i think im ok altough i have been having a tough time unlocking new bubles
Do you have any companions?
ye
all of them exept rift and doot
Any1 wanna go through my IE and let me know what's the most important thing for me to focus on? I'm focusing on alchemy i just started a month ago so it is what it is https://aethanyc.idleonefficiency.com/
Any tips for unlocking new plants in gaming?
Spam the unlock button every chance you get, even if it's just a 0.1% chance.
Yea I've been doing that for months
Cant seem to unlock chem
Well Lava is from California. Have you tried sacrificing a straight, cis white man?
Spamming is the meta? Even early?
Yessum
ace still frantically typing
it's usually a very in depth explanation. He helps offset all of trolls who just want to make fun of you
In general, you just need more time to progress your account. But DK/W5 pushing specifically, I would prio
- Talent respec - I would book everything that's green. Drop points in red to spend in them, orange can be dropped to ~50 for extra points, as well. I also doubt you're getting much benefit from mega crit, so drop those points and level your boost food talent and throw an exp pot on. Talent changes alone should net you quite a bit of sheet damage.
- Get to level 100 on all your characters and whatever extra levels you need to unlock your last character slot.
Next, I would probably work on
- Maestro skills - You want your MMan to be rank 1 on W1-3 non-town skills so that his right/left hand buffs apply to your other characters. Once this is done you can
- Resample - hell, just go take samples now on your hunter/mman, they don't have anything. Check W3 pins for sample chart. Once your samples are doing better then you can start boosting
- Alchemy - Try and unlock Orange 17 as this will multiply the strength of Orange 1. Also keep leveling orange 1 (samples will help with this), a good goal for W5 should be 100 for all your first bubbles and 50 for second. Also aim for Yellow 18 to improve your cooking speed, speaking of
- Cooking - you have meals you can unlock with the spices you have. Look at IE for recipes to try and unlock them
I would also take a look at
- Lab - can you light up the Shrine bonus? This will allow you to keep them in town to keep leveling them along with Div, while also giving the benefits to your DK.
- Worship - make sure you're using your charge and upgrading skulls, you'll need souls for a lot of things
- Forge - literally just put any type of ore in there and fully upgrade it
- Anvil - your second DK isn't poroducing anything and a lot of your folks are capped. Make sure to spend points
- Stamps - Looking decent, go see where your missing ones come from and try to unlock those
Why does my damage halve once i go furhter than the maccie area in w5
What a review
Anyone glanced at the summoning wiki recently?
"Shinji and his Inevitable Army 10.5 Library Max Book Lv."
Thank u so much
are you on DK? probably don't have enough accuracy for refinery damage talent
thx
alright laundry time 
I know bubo has LV200 Tentacleye as a requirement for good CC farming; but is there anything DK needs before they can consistently farm statues?
choco chip, good crystal chance, and good dr
the higher your orb talent the better
Why is this showing 0, if I have 100m green mushrooms?
What companions do you have, who are you pushing with, and what's your furthest map?
Need to put a point in it to show
Or cloud save and check again
Great molehill, Have all except last 2 companions. Pushing with DK
Still shows as 0, after relogging
Thoughts?
With lvl 55 on it
Does anyone know how to use idleon review Website?
I understand that conept its just that its tellin g me to work on divinity and equinox when i havent even completed world 3 yet
so thats something youll work on when in w5 then, focus on w1-w3 stuff
Alright, I'm going to be a little lazy and tell you to read through the review I did for axial #lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message
You're in a pretty similar spot, but with some things a bit better and some a bit worse. Differences being
- Stamps - I would put more focus on these, you're missing quite a few of both combat and skilling, look up where they come from and prioritize at least unlocking them and throw some levels in them.
- Printer - looks like you're working on MMan levels, once you resample, I'd actually probably stop printing as much sand and just work on skilling mats, use those to boost bubbles/stamps, then with the damage increases and other account increases, you can just go active on ES for a bit (or DK if crystal farming) to gain a bunch
- I'd also take your second SB off of Suggmas and just throw him on Div, the faster you get to Goat, the better
Also, for both of you @primal terrace Chocolatey Chip will be in the chip shop in ~2 months, try and make sure you have all the materials you need to buy it, as it's crucial to crystal farming which makes a lot of things easier
do you have 2 BBs by chance?
If so, schow's only count your 2nd BB's kills
Really
Huh
But it does work anyway?
It should work if they're on 2nd BB #patch-notes๐ message
if you only have 1 BB then
submit a bug report?
But... why
That's really annoying actually
Bandaid fix
something that tends to happen sometimes
how do i activate artifacts
So now my first bb's kills are useless?
You don't. Once you get an artifact you gain the bonus permanently
but my artifacts arent givving bonuses
Try reloading the map
Swap characters a few times or walk in and out of town
ok ty
still count towards deathnote. you can always swap your 2nd BB to a DK 
I think some people believe 2 BB is better than 2 DK
Can I though, thought you could only swap t3 classes
Doesn't BB push better sheet dmg than DK?
Made him when I thought fishing was far more important then it is :p
Only reason why 2 BB might be better than 2 DK is the passive ladles
900 gems in LTO shop at the moment
Yeah because an AFK BB or DK reallllly doesn't change much. It's active DK that shines
But construction at least has an 'end'? ๐
it takes 12 years, but it does have one
By that time you'll have 900 gems saved up
lol
And cooking is meh compared to construction in importance. Sure there's a decent amount of bonuses from meals but you can get ladles in other ways
Meh I was honestly thinking I should've gone 3x ES over BB and Bubo tbh
No.
You're better off with a 2nd BB over a 3rd ES
Join that 5 warrior account train
Duplicate classes all feel kinda useless to me
Maybe I'm just missing something but
I have double ES, DK, SB.
Reason I would go for ES is printing for more atoms
Double ES is almost mandatory due to worship and divinity.
SB > BM because massive sheet dmg
ES > Bubo oak printing and worship and divinity
DK > BB copper printing and construction
Double DK helps a lot with construction and gaming.
As in you can have one DK on a skilling preset with your gaming bonuses while you either active or afk push on the other.
Same goes for ES with divinity.
and SB for sailling
Maybe I'm too far behind on library books, but most of them can just max most skills no?
Eh guess I remember wrong
Nevermind
15 skills, max 270 = 4000+ points needed
Oh yeah SB for sailing is important
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
Basically Sailing (SB), Divinity (ES), Gaming (DK) are the most important skills imo and it's the main reason I have those classes duped while my Bubo, BM and BB are solo.
time for 100 more boxes, maybe the last for the event 
bot commands in the bot command channel ๐คฌ
sorry 
Looking for dis?
I use that command all the time in the respective channel when I forget.
At least I keep it on-topic.
yeah its more just a reminder for all, not a huge deal just would royally suck if everyone who had a w5 question was doing it here
More just when people are in the middle of a convo and people start spamming commands 
one person see one and then oh way reminds me, and another and it gets out of control fast
just sad 
Before you know it, we look like w6 chat
idk how many boxes, like 11/1200 i think and no apple
I still have no hotdog, just got my apple this morning
you want one? 
the god that lets you get both div & lab xp, does it mean my dude has to be in the lab to get the xp? or can they sit in the alter and get it too?
lab allows div, not div allows alb
ahh ok
thanks bro
its gonna take me 234 days
maaan i thought the new updatye posted with his most recent post. but he was just showing off a new change :C
hey guys i think i totally bricked my account because i messed up my refinery salts
is there anything i can do about it or am i timegated out of stuff forever
So what do you do with the second DK anyway, just chuck him in the lab?
salt can be fixed. just might take a while depending on how bricked you did it
im talking abt cooking
the cheese recipe
don't forget you can use ladles to speed things up 
wait 10h or gamba
id' wait, arctis is quite nice
You'll be fine
waiting for tomorrow morning then
If you fuck up your salts, just turn off the higher tier ones and level earlier ones
Second DK is there for mainly construction gains and a labrat candidate while your main DK pushes
Also a second ore printer.
if i upgrade this i have a 25 percent to get the god or how does that work?
yes
so i need to gamble the 25 right if i unlock it for one does it count for everyone unlocked?
Click left until 100%
my nullos are tier 1 ๐ญ
As in not tiered up?
ah so the left higher the rate of the right?
Left is always the lower option, it cycles between 1%, 5% and 25%
Or eh
1% and 5% and like what 10% i forgot
But basically just spam left until you either get it or it rerolls the second one to 100%
isnt right then better?
No because it's always proportional and gamba
You want to reroll as many times as possible until you get a 100% offering
when does it reroll to 100
and do i unnlock it on all
But it's better to reroll the smallest one until you get a guarantee than just gamba and never get a guarantee
Everytime you unlock a god you go to the next tier
That is for the snake god, you move on to arctis after
till which god would u do this
Once you hit arctis you'll regain access to lab
yea but do i have it on all unlocke if i unlock it on one
Which is the bear god
Ideally you want to keep the div grind going until you hit goat god
Bear god = chars in div are also in lab but no lab exp
Goat god = chars in lab are active in both lab and div for exp and points in both
Your main goal on your characters is to hit level 40 div on all
That gives you access to tranqi
= base 3 div exp per hour even when not in lab or div
so its fine to put all in divinity till then and worth?
All but your pusher yes
goat god is pretty op or not since u dont have to stay in lab and get xp for both skills?
what would u do once i finished goat god ? Which gods are the best
should i save for this one or still spam left
i got him now
yeah first rank
if i link to a god while having doot, does the upgrade happen twice??
no, that would be too op
Like having doot already isn't OP 
You do still need to link someone to Purrmep for the minor bonus though
Ideally whoever is your highest Div level
That's like how ugly people say beauty is on the inside. You'll change your tone once you have him
I just unlocked Voidwalker and how does voidpoints work? They are not available on other preset for skills?
Level checkmate and put points into the speed run talent. you need to 'earn' your points with Vman
@astral topaz I understand that so does point not transfer like other skilsl between presets?
F imagine using all of ones divinity pearls in w1 town not realizing how they work cuz you dont know how to read
you need a point in this
@sub thanks!
nps! ๐
611 points ๐
dat gud stufff
Just 2nd on him
the bonuses are soooo good too 
day*
3k gold nugget im like 2 week in w5 is that good?
you will never have a high enough nugget
Wtf really?
so any upgrade is a good upgrade
Number go up!
Max is 100m, no?
What does your toolbox say yours can go to?
you would know better than me
For snail is is max at 2 mails a day with upgrade or more you upgrade more mail you can get
I'm going to guess you can get it to 3 a day based on how other things in the game work.
you can
does skill efficiency affect div gains at all?
@quiet pewter So all I have to do is just keep upgrading the snail and I get more mail
no
thats what i expected ty
Divinity doesnโt get affected by exp gain and doesnโt have efficiency thing
It only have its own things...
Boosting it
guess I can try doing the dungeon one...otherwise probably gonna be 300 construction finished first 
Does increasing ship value increase how much experience I get from that ship sailing somewhere and back in sailing?
didn't roll extra stats/slot on kruk helm 
8 out of 10 stones worked, guess that tracks with 82.5% 
First set of troll shoes done.. now begins the pearler grind
yo fella's question, how/when do i start gaining these green bits?
chest had 1 failure and pants had 3, rip
colors just change as you get more
oh i see
I hate these rng stones, I'm still using W5 stones sometimes just because I've had so bad luck at times
I had 50% of the w6 stones fail on my mmans marble gear 
Is 82.5% success rate with max guild bonus?
Alright I'm at 78.7
what is optimal refinery setup
The important part is always upgrading red and green salts. Then you can either level up as you like or keep it balanced so you can run all salts continously by keeping the output of the previous one slightly higher the input of the next one. There is help with balancing in the autoreview tool if you need it
I was looking at auto review and im really confused
how do I read it
its kinda wack I dont rlly understand
If the bar is full you don't need to rank up
ok so like
Otherwise rank up if possible
Exactly
When you rank up red those numbers will change and it will recommend you to rank up
whats the Salt Excess/Deficit per
Cycle I think
If you run both red and orange salt you will use more red salts than you produce
ah
I've read that a few times... but why always upgrade green salts? it uses blue ones so it has the same deficit issue as the other salts
Because the green cycles are much slower you will almost always produce more blue salt than you can use
You would have to be WAY out of balance to use too much blue
I see, thanks
lmao my save didnt save on my cell phone i have connect on pc , back to 300 gold nugget lmao rip 3k
I booked all my main damage talents and went from 4b to 6b dmg lmao
dang yo
I've almost killed 1000 kruk today to get the gems though
My plan is to do 1500 kills today with stopwatches
you just doing normal?
Yeah
one day i'll get a card doubler
What is that in total?
Had 1 in 55 before the doubler
The other doubler will appear on halloween
That is quite some time to wait
gettin close to page 1 done for now 
I've really embraced gamba recently. Getting the DR pristine charm, buying my jewels every week and so on
tbf, jewels and charms aren't even gambling, since you can't get duplicates
Yeah they feel a lot more fair since you always get something
Getting +10% defense or + movement speed if under 170% from chips is completely useless
not me having 5 of them each 
I have to flex my meals when you gave me the chance
50
Actually I got the edlritch artifact today so I should be able to see the new plate color now
alright, 2.56% chance now 
Looks way less impressive
Next time I'm cooking I will have the next spice and the marshmallow. That should be huge
Will take at least a week though
Currently working on level 60
80

90
ahh, sneaking
Nice! Do you need a bunch of fluoride and schows to get to that point or can you still do without it?
I have most W1 schows and 1 flouride lvl currently and getting more still feels a bit hard
what your oak/copper samples at?
Same resampled ystd for 33% bigger
Think I was at 85M before
I think this was the first time I hit the speed cap so I guess progress will slow down a bit
Cards won't help much more either
I guess I will actually have to focus on alchemy
How much dmg do U need for nightmare kattlekruk?
Not much on DK
For like BB or vman I think you need a ton
The important thing is to kill moles before they can heal. They don't have higher health than normal so if you can kill them all you can beat it even if it takes ages
DK statue will make killing the moles trivial
i need to work on some of my resource cards 
For vman and BB how much dmg do U need?
All my non important characters are working on cards for the most part
Don't know. I don't have enough
enough to kill kruk before the moles spawn 
How much dmg do U have now?
i think angelo did it with 40TB earlier today, but it took like 50 minutes 
Like 250B tops not on vman though
on VMan*
my vman with 50t can 1tap
That's nuts I'm still a long way to go
idk how he struggled with 40
sorry, 40B
Oh 40b ๐
๐ guide is for 88b for like 12 minutes
Oh it's doable with so low damage? Then I should probably get the scarf
i mean you can do it with even less, its painful af tho
do u really want to juggle moles for an hour
Yed
When it comes to games I'm a bit of a masochist
fair
Are U sure just games?
I think those fist talents not being maxed in the pin helps a lot
80B should be easy with them maxed
well i'mi at 3B with this gear
so might actually be close enough with some actual stuff
is that
Remember to remove looty booty as well
Is it worth making diabolical gear to push into w5, It may take me a bit to get the merit points to unlock troll
Just the weapon
save nullo salt for troll gear
oh, guess i gotta change my x reaction
I wish I had the salt for even the weapon

I much prefer getting 100 hampters than 750 nullo

It will change obviously but right now at least
You dooted?
I wish
Doot makes salt somewhat easy
doot makes a lot of things easier
how are your meals so much higher than mine when i've got 8 red levels on you 
actually 10
bb/vman/alch diff?
I've been way too intense about this game recently
245 blood marrow does a lot as well
but yea u cant really compare mechanics directly
To be fair I candied it all
imagine have eldritch fury 
refinery has nothing to do with cooking
Except wood mushrooms which I don't have
just burn 40 candies
It isn't really worth it imo
Except to make pinchy happy
Also for everyone looking at maybe getting the kruk scarf remember that you need lvl 425
bye the time i get some, i can probaly use it on more than 1 character 
Currently only my main dk would qualify and almost my bubo
But for dk it would be near useless as mob respawn and afk gain doesn't matter
farmed a few boss keys, no tooth yet ๐ฆ
Tooth?
strung tooth
What boss are you grinding
Tier
I think I've gotten 3 today
18.4 on es for nm
Should easily get it
had 2 eternal flames and a dozen obols
think chaotic is the best odds per key
Even when considering that over a third of runs are essentially free because key drops?
Normal is 1 in 100k or smt
Chaotic is 1 in 27k or smt
Nm is 1 in 2.7k or smt
Not sure about the numbers
Close enough
๐
Still significantly better per key for normal
Is the w5 kill ring worth?
which one is chemical plant? or have i not unlocked it yet? trying to figure out this equinox dream
chem is final mutation
if I get to 3star nm without a drop i'll switch back to norm/chaotic
Last one you haven't unlocked it
No idea maybe if you are pushing w5 or doing vman speed run on w5
using the rock is more plants so more dna, but only worth if active
just smash reserach every time you clear the screen of plants 
ive been doing that for months ;-;
rng be rng 

yeah, it'll speed up how fast you get a full screen
which is especially good if you just need # of plants harvested to roll for mutations
thats what im doing
almost lvl 5 div, this grind hurts ๐ญ

soontm
i think thats whats hurting my gaming rn cuz idk where else to get more bit gains cuz i think i got everything i can atm
4th set of 300 kruk kills done today. I think I'm going insane
are you pocketwatch spamming
from 170 nug to 1.8k
god bless rng
will we ever get the w6 merit update 
anyone can please help me point to some resources regarding w5 key farming?
It's essentially just get a good dk and put them on wurms
aight thanks - i was wondering if ES or bubo might be better considering the key is a drop from the mob itself
can always throw bubo on there for some good CC gains too 
Itโs not real
DR be damned, all about multitasking 
I had everyone except BB farming wurms
I actually talked to lava. It was all a lie 
that's what I thought too since I'm trying to grind for class EXP bubble
dont afk wurms
planning to active at wurms
just not sure which class is best in terms of keys cause i'm trying to grind for the trophies
tbf he also got eclipse out of it 
I wouldn't use ES, but bubo is quite good. I use DK mainly for the statues and gold food which I prioritize more than CC currently
Wurms is the best CC map of all
bubos kill speed probably helps it keep up with DK for drops ๐ค
Not with a 800 orb
Haven't tested properly but my feeling was that bubo was a bit under half the drops for me
u got the equinox liquid thing maxed yet?
To be fair I have worked a lot more on my DK
probably better to bubo once u got that
guess i'll stick my DK there first since i'm also grinding for the 100k golden hampter
Maxed it two days ago
I probably should swap over now since I don't care about keys as much anymore when I run out of stopwatches
Whatโs anyone have tips for running the world 5 worship totem
I keep making it to 50 and then losing
Not breaking the 50 mark
I canโt even do the first dream lol
Voidinator, stall. Works for others with equinox
I use this sheet. Unsure if it's the best one anymore https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
I used a 2nd void near the end of the totems for wave59/60 the stun enemies with the boss wave
didn't have an issue with wave 50 though, maybe just higher tower levels
ive put all my chars in divinity should i start pushin with one?
and remove one of divintiy
You won't push too well without your lab bonuses, but once you get your divinity up a bit you can put everyone on arctis and effectively back in lab for the bonuses to a pusher.
Does anyone know how to get cash for slab the one next to flurbos
Is that from the spare change rng item?
I have no clue
I'll see if i have it
ah so when i have the bear i basically but in on everyone apart of the pusher and still grind divinity?
until how long is it worth to grind
How do you get that ring item?
Yes it is from spare change
Ok thx will have to get rng item first lol
boah nobisect is also crazy for pushing right
You can also have it on your pusher, til the third god which gives 2x kills for portals
yea and until how long would u grind divinity
W1 achievement, wode together
or is it know always all my chars in divin till i get them all apart of pusher?
Ok never getting that rip
ah goharut?
Until you get the goat god, then throw people back in lab to level both
Yes
Thx u very much
Give me a server, get in a party and do it
does anyone have a max worship soul guide? i don't mean a td guide
Lots of efficiency, food effect and soulble gum
only getting like 10k frozen souls per worship. probably need more waves
damn i should have equipped the +efficiency prayer
When using exp balloons in world 5 where does the xp go?
They don't work
Well they are being consumed and it says I'm gaining exp so....
Just exp
whats the reccomended minimum and maximum damage for the first kill on kruk for es?
??
class exp
It seems like class exp
People have done it around 20m minimum for es, just try keep the moles down, make sure you don't have any hp increasing prayers
Hmmm I see okay thanks 
Dice 6 if you still want to
At boards?
Finally had enough nullo salts for the last 7 sets 
Man how the heck do I get enough efficiency to mine godshard as vman 
gems
hahahaa
joke, meals, lab chip that boost efficieny, stamps
Oh yeah I do have a couple of those chips I can stick on vman
so, bit of a random question, im gonna burn through a few gold watches today, as such, im gonna have a lot of excess teleports.
anyone got any good ideas of things to burn those teleports on so i dont waste em?
use some in speedruns
just waste them
or better yet spend some gems and increase your cap and let them pile up
idk how many teleports you have but I have 200+ and i don't think i'll ever use them up
i already have a bunch of daily teleport unlocks lol
im currently sitting at 720 teleports
yeah then just let them get wasted lol'
which is about my max
i'm at 900 
bought increases a loooooooong time ago back when you didn't get many per day
or per purchase level
I still remember this message ๐ข
everyone prepping to burn pocketwatches at the end of event now, me incl
Asking in the wiki channel can sometimes take an hour to get a response 
oh good, got enough hampters for 2 more weapons
have people greenstacked anvil tab 2
is there a fast way to spam candies?
We need a carpal tunnel emote, whatever that would look like.
Drill in a wrist
press enter then i then click
Anyone else always have way too much liquid nitrogen vs trench/h2o
do you have people in 2nd cauldron?
oh wait, actually, 2nd water has the least amount of uses compared to 1 and 3
Okay that's what i thought
felt like i was missing bubbles and vials
- the shop is like... always 1+2 or 2+3 never just 2
even then it eats up 2x H2O 

If you get doot before unlocking gods does it still give you their effect Iโm pretty sure I got elephants effect before I unlocked him
you need div level 2 on each char
Ok thx
you probably levelled on of the bubbles for gaming/sailing, or equipped golden hampters
Nah just didnโt know how doot worked lol but thx
make sure you pick up the dragonic cauldron if it ever comes back around in the LTO shop
Next thing we know it's gonna be removed from google play entirely.
tbh at this rate it should then just re-added at a future date
can't stop us anymore if we dont exist
That doesnt work like that
Removing it from the app store doesnt uninstall it or prevent it from working for people who have it.
Remember people sold their phones with the original flappy birds on it.
Lava can get sponsorship from apple and then tell android players to kick rocks and buy the new iphone22 with 0.01 more megapixels
Just play in the web browser.
doesn't it pause when it's not the active window? or was that just mine being weird 
It does unfortunately.
what should i upgrade first
get more slots
captain=
You need 1 each to truly grow the fleet
captain so u can buy more first ๐
oh true i guess
What does that exactrly do
im new to w5
he gets some loot after the timer is over
ah
the quests should guide you
i s2g my lv4 automation arm aint doin its job
toolbox still tells me my characters have full anvils
smh my head
if its full the auto collect doesnt work
i collect, and then it fills up again
lmao so i need bigger bags
it collects everyone at reset if you aren't capped
Since when?
since always lol
Ever since it was created it only collected one.
not in w3 town so i cant get that SS but thats what wiki says and it always said that
can u collect divinity with candies? or its not possible
Not possible
okey thx
It takes a while but eventually you can collect divinity in the lab, and another way to get divinity xp without having to be in town
Both unlocked in divinity itself
i need this goat god for it or not
ya goat for lab
and after i got him do i need to put only one on goat god
so i can have the others in lab with the other god?
gods are per char unless specified
what does that mean
goat only applies to the character with it, so they all need to be on goat in lab
Most benefits only apply to the character its on
okey ah and goat gets u xp in lab and div plus u stay in lab?
so if i have goat should i have him always on
exactly
or is there smth better
bear lets u get lab bonus without being in there so u can do stuff
apart of sampling with snake god etx
insect is op for pushing maps
ah
all different use cases
okey
At least while they hang out in lab goat seems to be best, bear is great for lab while doing something else, harriep is great for ele sorc to have as a second link to buff their printer
harriep = bunny
how does that worj with es and second link talent i didnt get it
and is there a time where u dont need anymore xp in lab divinity or u need it all the time
in the pinned messages there is a picture, make sure their ability has the right digit for whatever god you want
lab at 75, div at 40 earliest?
only cares about the last digit, so level 23, 33, 43 are all Harriep.
look at the popup panel when u have that talent selected
Hey why it show I can research still if I unlocked Chem what does it do? ๐
Not out yet. Just visually shows that
So it doesnโt do anything
dice obols don't exist dice obols don't exist dice obols don't exist dice obols don't exist dice obols don't exist
i will do vile things for dice obols please
lmao
dice arent real
they do tho, just gotta kill w2 stuff a lot
park up ES in w2 you will get some eventually
farm some snelbie cards overnight you'll get a couple dice obols too hopefully
well, finally caught up to this one...time to put it on the shelf for a while 
Just get choco chip and farm crystals, you'll drown in dice obols before you know
which pets are Mallay? ive bred like 3 fighters and havent progressed at all so im confused
w2 right after mafiaso
Mallay is a duck isn't it?
ohhh, I thought it was just a stupid way of spelling melee, my b lmfao
That makes more sense
wut
afk info tells me ill get 15.5m fishing exp per hour
but i just used a 2 hr candy and i only got 8m exp
ripoff
yeah, fishing is dumb because you have 4 different depths it can choose from
Hey I unlocked eldritch dream catcher but my max chest cap didn't increase isn't it supposed to? 
This is the only pool for me
i think lava is jealous that i beat his minecart hi score before so he nerfed my fishing exp
its the only logical explanation
true
Should increase Sailing Chest capacity right?
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
sry i went away but now im back wdym by popup panel?
Tap the 11th talent it'll say which you are double linking to
rip im starting to unlock w6 vials, but im still 22 levels away from mercury
feels like my alchemy isnt leveling as fast as it should
Assuming you have player stats closed
you know what else is slow? green salts z.z
Aye. Still remember that 42 days period between 20 to 21.
wut
why you questioning me