lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[rapid shale]

whoever has the highest div level

[bleak gazelle]

true, most of the useful graphics are from him

[wanton obsidian]

I followed a guide where it says I can get to goblin wave 130 but I couldn't even get past wave 120 with similar tower lvls

Am I doing anything wrong

For reference this is the recommended lvl:

Atom: 2%
Cannoli meal lvl 27
Salt lick max

Voidinator - Level 2 (BB)
Poisonic Elder - Level 32 (BAB)
Frozone - Level 50 (BAB)
Party Starters - Level 48 (10x A, rest B)
Kraken - Level 32 (BA(A))
Stormcaller - Level 51 (BBB)

[barren anvil]

Im not that into TD but are you using the BM Talent?

[wanton obsidian]

My level is:

Atom: 4%
Cannoli meal lvl 29 + the black jewel
Salt lick max

Voidinator - Level 3 (BB)
Poisonic Elder - Level 34 (BAB)
Frozone - Level 41 (BAB)
Party Starters - Level 36 (10x A, rest B)
Kraken - Level 33 (BA(A))
Stormcaller - Level 40 (BBB)

[glass marsh]

How much dps is needed to beat Kruk as a DK? I tried with 37m and failed miserably lol

[wanton obsidian]

The guide didn't say to use it, but I still did made no difference when there's 100 enemies and my kraken gets overwhelmed

[barren anvil]

Sorry my best is only 100 though i didnt try for months.

[wanton obsidian]

My guess is 100mil? You could try 50mil

[barren anvil]

You only need to kill Moles before they heal him.

[glass marsh]

Okay, man it was so easy and fast to progress to Kruk and the difficulty spike is crazy

[bleak gazelle]

I would always use BM for TD

[glass marsh]

Ya I know, can’t even keep up with that atm

[barren anvil]

I did kruk with like 10-20m

With VMAN it was brutal

[wanton obsidian]

Lmao

[barren anvil]

But DK ES was easy

[glass marsh]

How? I have 37m and I can barely even kill a single mole before it gets to him, when 5 spawn at the same time on both sides it’s impossible lol

[barren anvil]

Do you crit?

[rapid shale]

do you not use the knight talent?

[bleak gazelle]

post talents

[glass marsh]

Ya, I am constantly critting 500-600m

[wanton obsidian]

Maybe you have a prayer that increases mole hp?

[glass marsh]

Ofc but it’s not fast

[glass marsh]

No

One sec I’ll login and get a screen of talents

[barren anvil]

You have MEGA crit?

[glass marsh]

Is that crit over 100%? If so, no

[barren anvil]

Thats an Party dungeon talent

[wanton obsidian]

At that point in dmg I don't think you'd even hit the mega crit mark

[barren anvil]

But doesnt really matter if i think about it

[glass marsh]

Oh is it the last talent? I’ve bought like 50 of the 4th book and never get 100 so last one isn’t unlocked yet

[barren anvil]

I think i lied and i had much more dmg tbh i cant remember

[wanton obsidian]

Over accurate crit works

Oh your crit chance is so low

[barren anvil]

Oh yea.

[glass marsh]

Donno how to get it higher

I have all the crit related talents maxed

[rapid shale]

cooking is the best way

[wanton obsidian]

I'd say statues

[bright meteor]

20% done with w4 statues

[barren anvil]

Now that i didnt expect

[rapid shale]

statues at his point are harder than cooking

[glass marsh]

Ah, well breeding is cock blocking me at the moment… been on a pet that is 1 in 9 chance to unlock for 2 weeks lol …

[wanton obsidian]

Uhm how about your talents?

[barren anvil]

Wait dish gives crit chance?

[glass marsh]

Which do you want to see, all four pages?

[bright meteor]

Yes the meat one

Ham or something

[wanton obsidian]

At that point in time I'd argue his cooking wouldn't be that good either

[bright meteor]

I think it's mutton

[wanton obsidian]

Yes please

[rapid shale]

ye i dunno its actually further down then I remember

[wanton obsidian]

I hit w6 before that meal

It's quite further down

[bright meteor]

Yes mutton

Btw meal effect % from shinies is great too

And lab

[barren anvil]

I have 140% crit chance and i dont know from where. Theres probably alot of sources

[glass marsh]

Max talents are a bit low I know, I only just unlocked the 20 book for max level thing today

Still working on increasing the max level of my talents too

[rapid shale]

you are right statues is probably the way

[wanton obsidian]

I think you could get a bit more dmg lvling up the HP on the first tab

[bleak gazelle]

have you used any library books?

on tab 3*

[glass marsh]

Some

[bleak gazelle]

and tab 2

tab 2 middle row is all good, tab 3 left column top and middle are good for levels

tab 1 sword and axe, too

you got plenty of points to spend, that's a lot of free damage

can drop points in tab 3 rock skin (or w/e it's called), obol, and statue talents if you need more points

[rapid shale]

also this to allow ur knight to hit more moles

[barren anvil]

Dont forget about cards :)

[glass marsh]

Workin on cards too!

Lots to do, hard to know where to focus first

[wanton obsidian]

Card sets and star signs too

There's some really good star signs that gives a lot of dmg

[barren anvil]

True.

[barren anvil]

And buy Bobjoipickle everyday!

Most important thing.

[bleak gazelle]

you can use the autoreview tool to help you pick one or two things to work on right away

or post your IE and we can roast guide you

[barren anvil]

I use it for most of my tasks because im stoopid. It might not be the "best" way but hey.

[strong nexus]

i drop the ergonomic splicer receipy but ....where do i drop the double barel one

[barren anvil]

Thermister i think

[glass marsh]

Ya I do this, still the same thing tho, there is so much it’s hard to know which is best to focus on first haha

[glass marsh]

I do 🙂

[strong nexus]

ho you right termister is a tier 4 receipy

weird i would have expect that it will drop in w4

[barren anvil]

Ooops my bad

[glass marsh]

https://yaviidle.idleonefficiency.com

[barren anvil]

You can click on the question mark in the anvil. Its inbetween the first and 3rd splicer

[glass marsh]

I haven’t been playing that long, 6-8 weeks maybe :p

[barren anvil]

It shows you where it drops @strong nexus

[barren anvil]

You didnt do much lab did you?

[strong nexus]

there so many of those ? that said not availaible yet so i never really use that

[glass marsh]

I’ve had my characters in lab since I got to w4, I only took a few out this morning to get them to lv100 for equinox

Oh and one which is doing a million kills on w1-3 for vman quest

[strong nexus]

like tier 1 betwen bandido pans and amarok necklace

[glass marsh]

Ya my gear is bad on most of my characters lol

Again, just the time to get the mats holding me back I guess

[barren anvil]

You need to unlock w4 and then the THermister drops it. As far as i know.

[barren anvil]

Do you have No bubble left behind connected?

[glass marsh]

Yes

[barren anvil]

Do you log in daily? Because ur Alchemy is VERY low.

[strong nexus]

ho that not a issu i wasnt really paying atention i was killing ocotpus for there ball because the achivement ask for 1 green stack of those and drop the receipy

[glass marsh]

Yes, again like I said, barely been playing longer than a month lol

[strong nexus]

realise i never got the receipy for the second barel one

[glass marsh]

I have really bad luck upgrading stuff. For example my yellow cauldron is 16% upgrade chance and I’ve failed it around 40 times

[barren anvil]

Well ur alchemy is low and pretty much everything can be upgraded with alchemy so work on that.

[glass marsh]

Ya I use all my liquids upgrading alchemy as much I can everyday

[barren anvil]

You use ur bubo for that i asume?

[glass marsh]

Ofc, it’s like 3% without

[rapid shale]

their bubo isnt that effective, with his talent levels unfortunately

[icy pulsar]

33 unused books
multiple mini-bosses

angels weep

[rapid shale]

for liquids at least, plus its harder to get lots of next bubble brews

[glass marsh]

Ya gettin there!

[barren anvil]

@glass marsh You dont have oak logs or copper sampled :o

[strong nexus]

1 chance in 1,2m to get that double barel receipy its in those situation than 7 dr seem still low

[glass marsh]

Oh ya I just turned off copper cause I have like 30m of it, same with oak

[barren anvil]

It very much is.

[barren anvil]

You can upgrade the first bubble a bunch then!

[bright meteor]

-1 game to worry about so I can active more on Idleon

[strong nexus]

well i have 6 character fishing kraken so idk what i can do while waithing

[glass marsh]

True, I guess I just upgrade other stuff and use all my liquid lol

[pliant ferry]

play poing while fishing

[barren anvil]

Well i suck at reviews but you can use Autoreview bot for most of the game.

Its faster and smarter than me

[glass marsh]

There upgraded my bubbles, out of liquid again :p

Ya I’ll check out auto review more tonight

[barren anvil]

I forgot how hard the beggining is.

[glass marsh]

There’s just so much! It’s a bit overwhelming

I don’t feel like I rushed through the worlds either. Definitely hit a huge wall at Kruk now tho

Like it’s been easy this whole time, never accuracy issues, every map always more exp/hr than the last, etc

[barren anvil]

Yea thats pretty normal. I also hit a wall at w6. Just gotta keep grinding. I found some pretty huge DMG buffs that are honestly embarassing that i missed.

[rapid shale]

i mean you definitely did, there isnt anything wrong with that, but 6-8 weeks at kruk is a rush. just means you will have to play catch up

[barren anvil]

My characters where in lab for that long :D

[strong nexus]

how much my drop rate raise on max wormhole?

[icy pulsar]

this is at least what my es looked like when i beat kruk, 1-2 minutes

if you needed a reference idk

[strong nexus]

like i have 7dr base +11,5% by worm hole kill

well worm hole kill is total or its just on that sumon

[rapid shale]

each kill adds to the DR bonus

[strong nexus]

because total i have 1,52m

[barren anvil]

so we flexin huh?

[strong nexus]

im not sure i understand the math and i try to calculate what is my chance to get that receipy in reality

[barren anvil]

Just dont calculate and pray :D

[rapid shale]

i dunno i also dont try to understand that math, i just know it is a solid multipler

but also not every kill in wormhole is going to be at that max DR, pretty complex calculation to find the chance

[icy pulsar]

flexing is for showing off hats 😮‍💨

any other flexing is for nerds (not real)

[rapid shale]

hat flex?

[pliant ferry]

🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬

[icy pulsar]

out here flexing the hat equivalent of a nuke right off the start huh

[strong nexus]

like i can think 1 in 1,5m chance to drop is base on a dr of 1 so i can divise that number by 7 giving me 1 chance in 214 286 but then how i calculate the wormhole bonus

[rapid shale]

i dunno I got it like a week ago :p

[bright meteor]

I wanna leave w5 chat and get purple dmg 😭

[glass marsh]

Hmm my es isn’t even at Kruk yet, but might give it a try when she’s there

[barren anvil]

Hold left click on ur first inventory slot.

[surreal ember]

My es had worse dmg then that and I beat it aswell Es much better for kruk

[icy pulsar]

es felt like it could clear the maps afk better than dk so i used the es to push through + it outputs far more damage than dk

[rapid shale]

Does your SB not have Purple damage at this point?

[bright meteor]

Idk might check his full potential soon

[rapid shale]

My SB gets like 10x the damage of my DK

[bright meteor]

I did it with 1k pens but got all boxes except Myriad maxed atleast I don't really care

[icy pulsar]

would purple damage really make a difference?

[bright meteor]

Mov speed %?

[bright meteor]

Idk looks cooler

[rapid shale]

even with like 800% it should get way better damage

[barren anvil]

Man im the same level as you but im stuck here

[bright meteor]

I think I have like 600% move speed

[barren anvil]

Im clearly doing something wrong.

[rapid shale]

My Sb had like 5x the damage of my DK before w6 dropped (I was not a quick slap enjoyer)

[barren anvil]

You had them big meaty claws?

[rapid shale]

what

[barren anvil]

Warrior bubble for dmg

[rapid shale]

I should push that to 300 ig

but not really

[barren anvil]

Quick slap that op? I have no movement speed and i dont know how to raise it

[rapid shale]

its good to level to 300 when you get movement speed, anything after is pretty useless

It used to be uncapped before w6 though so it gave people tons of damage

still gives a solid amount (though that is only cause it scales with MS)

[nocturne abyss]

Wait, are you supposed to use ES to get to Kattlekruk?

[strong nexus]

does this damage cap whit the movemen speed max animation speed or it keep going

[rapid shale]

no just the visual caps, this will keep going

gets lower when I remove a potion

[barren anvil]

You dont have to use anyone. Tho it is recommendet that you use ES DK or maybe SB

(please dont use BM)

[river quail]

does doot work even if you dont have the gods?

[strong nexus]

well that bonus will jump fast then concidering all the movemen speed statut im droping

[nocturne abyss]

Okay good, my DK is literally a map away from the door

[barren anvil]

No.

[barren anvil]

Already used it twice today

[rapid shale]

felt the need to highlight the stuff about purrmep cause people always seem to glance over it

[nocturne abyss]

I was worried that I was gonna have to do that whole grind on my ES too now, he's been sitting in Worship to get gods this whole time

[river quail]

i got 2 hours of afk fishing time when leveling divinity, how did that happen then?

[bleak gazelle]

omniphau major bonus

err wait

fishing?

[rapid shale]

lmao fishing what?

[river quail]

but i only have the first god

[barren anvil]

FISHING?

[river quail]

sailing*

[rapid shale]

if you have doot read this

idk how you didnt read what i just sent you

[bleak gazelle]

then yes, Omniphau (god...6?) major link bonus

[barren anvil]

Well it doesnt really explain which god it did.

[river quail]

i did, just was confused how i got levels for sailing

[barren anvil]

Certantly wasnt Kattlekruk

[rapid shale]

yea but someone said it was omniphau and then he just said, "but I only have the first god unlocked"

[rapid shale]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Divinity

[strong nexus]

well that 1,5m chance wasnt so bad drop it and it took only what 30 min

[marsh crescent]

should my pusher always max frothy malk?

and what about just exp i just got them

[rapid shale]

Frothy Malk is really good, the xp not so much, especially if you have leveled grind time at all

[simple wadi]

You're probably too low level to max them out without losing out on more important star talents. I suggest just putting around 30-40 points in both.

Later you can max them out.

[rapid shale]

talents better spent in frothy than xp imo

this is utterly garbage

[simple wadi]

0.0667x multiplier. Fun stuff.

[rapid shale]

its additive

[river quail]

wait does this mean i can put everyone back into lab and get xp for both?

[simple wadi]

Doesn't change what I just said.

[bleak gazelle]

is this just healing food or does it include boost/golden too?

[rapid shale]

you said its a mult

[simple wadi]

It's added to your exp multiplier, resulting in +0.0667x

[rapid shale]

saying something is additive and a multipier mean two different things

[simple wadi]

No shit

It's an exp multiplier that's additive to your other exp multipliers.

[rapid shale]

its still misleading to say its a mult

[simple wadi]

It's not.

[rapid shale]

it is

[simple wadi]

But whatever. I no longer care about this conversation.

[strong nexus]

bonus to food effect inclut golden bonus

[simple wadi]

Go about your day.

[rapid shale]

lol

sounds like you care

[marsh crescent]

okay so i still want them though.. and i get 40 points automatically when i put a point in will that be okay to start than?>

[bright meteor]

@rapid shale

Didn't know

[frigid swift]

bro has a spear.

[bright meteor]

Yes

[barren anvil]

hes ready,.

[frigid swift]

filty world 6'ers

[rapid shale]

just incase they get too close

[barren anvil]

Man how come you have worse gear than me but 20x my dmg. smh

[pliant ferry]

There are so many things, I don't even know where 80% of my damage comes from anymore

[bright meteor]

No when I do plunderous mobs the guy just doesn't move with his big range

[bleak gazelle]

because gear doesn't matter in the mid-game

[pliant ferry]

Gear stops being a primary source of damage around w3/w4

[bright meteor]

Wdym worse gear

And I put objectives to get profit from all bonuses

I use more active time to progress

[barren anvil]

i literally dont understand that sentence.

[frigid swift]

i got bored farming w2 statues so i guess ill farm for new splicer

[pliant ferry]

candy that nonsense!

[frigid swift]

some of us dont have 4 years of candy tiem saved up!

[marsh crescent]

If my struggle was dieing to crystal spawn in w5 and if im trying to be active on ES can i replace my Afk talent for the health or will i not get an insane boost by that?

[bleak gazelle]

some of us want to save up 4 years

[marsh crescent]

maybe golden food im not sure

[pliant ferry]

I feel personally attacked

[frigid swift]

thats because i was attacking you

[pliant ferry]

lol ❤️

[frigid swift]

ill prob make another set of troll armor tonight. unless i end up being too lazy to do it

[pliant ferry]

The real Quack would never have attacked me

[barren anvil]

Its literally 4 clicks

maybe 6

[frigid swift]

thats a lot of clicking

[pliant ferry]

4 clicks to delete 50k nullo salt

[barren anvil]

Ive clicked alot more for alot less

[frigid swift]

i figured i would try my luck since i got 2 w6 stamps and a w6 recipe in an hour earlier today

[strong nexus]

let see if i can drop that item i missing on donut faster than the douple barel spliter its just 1 chance in 167k its shoulnd be that hard right? right? righhhhhhht?

[short sparrow]

I'm starting with the boots and working my way up

[frigid swift]

i just save enough nullo for a full set

even though the helmet is useless

[short sparrow]

[barren anvil]

You still need it for next helm.

[bright meteor]

For example auto review it gives you things to do or to prioritize that's what I meant

[frigid swift]

i know. sadly

[pliant ferry]

I like that so much better than having multiple branches

[bright meteor]

Still waiting for an answer or for IE/IT

[barren anvil]

I feel like i might be ahead in gear but im WAY behind on bubbles stamps etc.

[bleak gazelle]

typical idleoner

[barren anvil]

Every idleoner ever right?

[pliant ferry]

I spent the last week doing nothing but stamp upgrades...... and woweeee

[frigid swift]

stamps are the worst. so many clicks

[pliant ferry]

more than 4?

[frigid swift]

almost as bad as upgrading food bags

[bright meteor]

Worlds speedrunning but skipping real progress goes brrrrr

[barren anvil]

Damn did you ever do P.O Boxes?

[frigid swift]

i try to pretend po box is not a thing

[barren anvil]

Thats alot of clicks

[pliant ferry]

PO Box is easy! just do it when you do weekly boss

[barren anvil]

Well Autoreview doesnt value dmg bubbles does it?

[bleak gazelle]

y'all pobox? i just let collider handle it

who needs boss/colo keys

[barren anvil]

smart

[bleak gazelle]

that's more clicks

[pliant ferry]

The rewards after 50 get pretty cray cray

[bleak gazelle]

i don't have materials to fuel it all

[pliant ferry]

I think 50% of my candy is from PO box

[frigid swift]

po makes me have to farm materials

[bright meteor]

Not specially on dmg you should work on everything

[barren anvil]

So you click alot huh=

[pliant ferry]

its 5 clicks a day

6 if you count opening it....

Yall click more on the stupid log

[bleak gazelle]

nothing automates log

[barren anvil]

Well i follow autoreview for a while now but that didnt help me get more dmg. Im WAY behind you on that count

[barren anvil]

.

[pliant ferry]

"progress" is far more than just your sheet damage

[bright meteor]

I might give you some things to improve if I can give a look at your profile

[barren anvil]

https://youngkrypto.idleonefficiency.com/

Its a mess have fun.

[pliant ferry]

🙀

[barren anvil]

oh damn

[bright meteor]

I'll take my time in no long dw

[sage zealot]

wow sampling mob drops SUCKS

am i doing something wrong

[pliant ferry]

yes

[sage zealot]

is there some very important thing you have to do?

[pliant ferry]

yes there is

[short sparrow]

Vman speedrun

[sage zealot]

i saw people saying you should only sample things with vman during speedruns

[short sparrow]

Yes, + void radius

[pliant ferry]

not ONLY..... but if you are looking for high amounts. yes

[sage zealot]

i'm trying to get 20 greenstacks for equinox i should probably just focus on chopping

[pliant ferry]

greenstacking skill items is far easier than mob drops

[river orbit]

Any quick-wins I'm missing? I'm trying to kill kattlekruk on ~28m damage on my ES: https://pourliver.idleonefficiency.com
I'd really appreciate the help

[short sparrow]

Get a better hat

[sage zealot]

30m damage is kinda low

[pliant ferry]

$200 says he cleared this before posting just to avoid the roast

[river orbit]

I agree, trying to find whats my best bet to get more damage "quickly"

[sage zealot]

i have 70 is that bad

[pliant ferry]

🤢

[river orbit]

wtf

[sage zealot]

...i shouldn't be hoarding them should i?

[river orbit]

Nah I consumed them before my attemps at kattle lol

[pliant ferry]

Alchemy will be your biggest jump

[barren anvil]

Should have done the same.

[short sparrow]

Alch , level those bubbles man!!!

[lethal aspen]

your keys give me cancer but that aint helping kruk

[river orbit]

the 4 total damage?

[lethal aspen]

wadafa

[short sparrow]

All of them

[pliant ferry]

lol RIGHT I tried to stay in the view of what he requested 🤣

[river orbit]

To be fair, feel free to roast anything 🙏

Trying to get to learn the game, i winged it a lot lol

[pliant ferry]

There are a lot of dmg related alchemy bubbles that I think you could smash out pretty easily

[short sparrow]

Level up your turkey meal a bit if you can

[sage zealot]

also is there something really important for alchemy i'm missing? unlocking bubbles is still really goddamn hard

[lethal aspen]

try get luster/w4 weps at least

[sage zealot]

https://petergriffin.idleonefficiency.com/

[lethal aspen]

and chizoar armor since u alrdy got void

[pliant ferry]

The first 2 bubbles in purple. Focus on those for a few hours. Maybe candy the material? and I think you can gain 10-15% more damage easily

[lethal aspen]

as for your ES mr nerd himself, look at cards / card set? His using full drop unless u know that

and take this off lol

[river orbit]

I swapped to full drop after my attemps

[lethal aspen]

bruh

[sage zealot]

me??

[pliant ferry]

No sorry, was tlaking to pourliver

[pliant ferry]

also your lab chip. you have a weapon chip you could give your ES

[lethal aspen]

go use a candy on some w5 trees and level up your choppin so u can use better tools

[river orbit]

Im noting everything down 🙏

[lethal aspen]

your skilling levels are low enough that u shud try get vman to first in w1-3, but that wont help with dmg atm

[river orbit]

I was going to work on vman after unlocking the 5th divinity, i dont have the deathnote kills😵‍💫

[bright meteor]

@barren anvil bro I'm gonna beat u up if I see that ur gear is actually worse than mine

Going to check soon

[pliant ferry]

gear =/= damage

[lethal aspen]

or just maestro itself, dont need voidwalker to use left/right hands

[river orbit]

ah thats what you meant, yea good point

[barren anvil]

Ok maybe one character is better :)

[bright meteor]

I'm keeping kruk armor on Dk though since I can't afford the best one and don't have all recipes for the Dr

[lethal aspen]

Also you should book your damage talents on ES (and remove sklling ones from your preset lol)

[pliant ferry]

And its great armor, but it has nothing to do with account damage

[bright meteor]

Which one

[barren anvil]

it gives percent dmg does it not?

[sage zealot]

btw any vman speedrunning guides?

[pliant ferry]

It adds up yes, but to say you have better armor..... it means nothing

my naked DK is doing T damage.

[barren anvil]

Yes ive realized that and i cant figure out how you do it

[lethal aspen]

and if your dk was wearing godshard he'd be doing like 10x that

gear matters late

[pliant ferry]

Sure... but saying a DK in copper armor MUST be better is foolish

because better armor doesnt' mean anything

[bright meteor]

Ik I just look at the useful stats the more +all stats defence and upg don't really matter

[bright meteor]

Did you check his IE lol I hope it's fun

[pliant ferry]

and I'm pretty sure I just trashed my worship to check that 🤣

[lethal aspen]

rip worsheep

[barren anvil]

Well if you run around in copper armor and deal more dmg than me in half marbiglass that impresses me

[pliant ferry]

I had only looked at the IE of people wanting help

[hidden pivot]

Yoo, spare gems?

[river orbit]

I really appreciate the help btw, noted all that feedback and ill work on it rn

[pliant ferry]

Yeah I can't talk about my progress anymore or I will get kicked out of this chat 😢

the mob is ruthless

[barren anvil]

I thought my dmg would jump when i get better armor / overall gear but it goes up a little. Im far away from T dmg.

[pliant ferry]

Yeah it trickles in, especially the higher tier gear. Those bonuses get juicy. But still don't come close to offsetting account bonus in all the other aspects

Meaning.... yes the armor is "giving" you 50% more damage or whatever. But thats ONLY because all the other stuff. If you put that gear on a brand new account, it would be nothing compared to what it's giving you

[lethal aspen]

the only big jump is to troll/magma armor

[barren anvil]

Yea. I only know how to get more stuff like recources printing dr and such. DMG on the other hand i dont understand fully.

[lethal aspen]

as for T dmg, you just need better stats/bubbles

damage is a mystery to me still

[pliant ferry]

alchemy

[lethal aspen]

and sailing artis

[barren anvil]

ALchemy bro

[pliant ferry]

and then more alchemy lol

[lethal aspen]

and stamps and cooking

[barren anvil]

Basically everything

[pliant ferry]

late game cards get bonkers too

[plush crown]

And then our good old friend alchemy again

[barren anvil]

Id say i have pretty good cards

THats about it tho

[lethal aspen]

do u have ruby nightmare emperor (idk what it does)

[barren anvil]

yes

All 3 of them

[lethal aspen]

well clearly your spending gems in the wrong place for your accoutn then

[barren anvil]

well well.

[rapid shale]

Most high damage comes from high stats late game

[barren anvil]

I have every HUGE gem bonus already

[lethal aspen]

maybe thats lava way of saying you don't swipe enough

[barren anvil]

Like obol space

[barren anvil]

My hardest swipes still not enough

[lethal aspen]

do you have 10 doots yet 🤓

[barren anvil]

no

[lethal aspen]

imagine if doots scaled with how many you had

anyway do u want an account roast or nah

[pliant ferry]

lol

[barren anvil]

https://youngkrypto.idleonefficiency.com/

[hexed valley]

Should I use kitsune rock

[barren anvil]

Dont look at checkouts tho

[pliant ferry]

your arcade balls are maxed too

[lethal aspen]

oh its an hour old it seems

[barren anvil]

Missing on them huge gains ?

[lethal aspen]

where steve

[barren anvil]

Already working on it. Need 200k of the thingy.

[lethal aspen]

shudnt take too long with es/dk

[barren anvil]

I was told afk gets it fastest :o

[lethal aspen]

but ya your stamps could usse some work

[lethal aspen]

which thingy u missing, crystals drop cloud things

[barren anvil]

Blue yt symbol

[lethal aspen]

check wiki but pretty sure w3 drops it?

probably like an hour or 2 max to get 200k

[sage zealot]

does this look good??

[pliant ferry]

That chart is amazing

[rapid shale]

They removed that chart from w3 pins

[lethal aspen]

oh its gone

[barren anvil]

Those monsters

[pliant ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[barren anvil]

Its too powerful.

[lethal aspen]

lol

[bright meteor]

When I made some marbiglass stuff I said shit I forgot about the Dr kruk armor gives to my Dk

[barren anvil]

Oh yea the helmet gives DR

[lethal aspen]

just get godshard and more dr

[barren anvil]

Huh? Is that worship?

[lethal aspen]

smithing/anvil

[pliant ferry]

the bars are SOOOOO slow

[barren anvil]

:D it says 114 days for me

[rapid shale]

all you really need to know is that the number on the right should be higher than the number it is pointing to

[lethal aspen]

either way he shud probs be doing thread for exp

[pliant ferry]

But it doesn't tell you what it goes to

and if you oops level up blue one too many, you are screwed for weeks/months to get red caught up

[barren anvil]

Totally didnt happen to me

[pliant ferry]

yeah exactly ask me how I know! lol

[barren anvil]

Why is that?

[frigid swift]

i have been supppppper careful about my refinery levels lol

[barren anvil]

Only because you hate clicking

[frigid swift]

no matter how much i need nullo i wont over level it beyond the chart

[bright meteor]

@barren anvil claim ur pachinko balls

[rapid shale]

can not argue with that, i think it helpful to have both.

[bright meteor]

And do the minibosses

[lethal aspen]

💀

[bright meteor]

Boots aswell

[pliant ferry]

Absolutely! for people that want to learn it and stuff, highly encouraged

I follow the chart blindly even if it were to take me to the pits of hell

[frigid swift]

this game has several pits of hell you will need to be more specific

[pliant ferry]

sailing.... sailling is the only hell

[barren anvil]

i only do snow boss because of worship

Whats the point of the others?

[lethal aspen]

keys and ladles/eggs in w4

[pliant ferry]

😮

[lethal aspen]

and new shit in 5/6

[frigid swift]

nullo hell, stamp material hell, dreadlo bar hell, recipe farming hell... i can keep going lol

[rapid shale]

snow for worship?

[lethal aspen]

i hope your not a slush skull user

[bright meteor]

Gems in general always good

[barren anvil]

Slush skull

[rapid shale]

NOOOOOOO

[lethal aspen]

nice starfires 🙏

[rapid shale]

worst skull ever

[lethal aspen]

yer overcapped bruh

[barren anvil]

noo you need it to craft a better skull

[rapid shale]

I see

Minibosses are great for candy too

[barren anvil]

Never use charge Syphon!

[pliant ferry]

Today I learned... the mob is harsher against slush skull users, than non book users

[barren anvil]

Was almost killed back there!

[lethal aspen]

Oh yeah TIL that midas and jawbreaker are additive not multi

So just 30x hp instead of 256x

dropping godshard in w6 now feelsgud

[rapid shale]

you scared us all

[frigid swift]

yall wild lettin people look at your IE. mines hidden away in an encrypted server on a long forgotten island in the middle of the bermuda triangle lol.

[pliant ferry]

right

[lethal aspen]

I don't think anyones ever seen mine and will stay that way

[rapid shale]

ye, ive never posted my IE

[bright meteor]

@barren anvil don't u active Dk often?

[barren anvil]

Only because you need to click upload.

[lethal aspen]

Except ol bigmac when he first started his review bot

[barren anvil]

My main active

[pliant ferry]

I have never even made mine public.

[frigid swift]

save myself the embaressment and keep mine hidden away

[barren anvil]

Show ur book checkouts.

[rapid shale]

I let AutoReview bot do all the roasting

[pliant ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-go-t-game-of-thrones-walk-of-shame-shameful-gif-4949558

[frigid swift]

im greenstacking checkouts

[lethal aspen]

oh i didnt know this was a thing lmao

[echo crag]

i probably do something about those

[bright meteor]

If u do gear him and I hope that you're swapping the accessories with him and ur ES

[pliant ferry]

JESUS people

[bright meteor]

@barren anvil

[frigid swift]

damn i really thought i was winning that one lol

[barren anvil]

I have a second DK!

[echo crag]

i mean this helps in my case

[pliant ferry]

I guess that does get a bit crazy since most primary skills are maxed, yeah?

[echo crag]

most of the good character yeah

waiting on sovereign

[frigid swift]

yeh idk where to even see that. but im sure my 0-20 is like a day

[pliant ferry]

at 9 hours it gets tedious to do it all the time, and remember which ones I have done

[barren anvil]

So ur bm gets no love?

[pliant ferry]

I just started seeing it at 20 go #yolo get a book

[echo crag]

bm got the important one aka breding and trapping related stuff

[frigid swift]

lol i was right. liek a day

[bright meteor]

Idk like Lava mentionned the more characters you make the most recent lne won't get much love compared to the previous ones but this is the opposite xD

[barren anvil]

I dont really know why my 2nd to last character is my most played :D

[bright meteor]

Idk which one is your fav actually

[barren anvil]

Well i like them all equally !

(Big Krypto and Baby Krypto)

[bright meteor]

Ngl I chose my main as Dk because before that I was thinking that the Squire was actually cooler

[pliant ferry]

first dk, first sb, and bubo are most played. I neglect the hell out of my ES

[bright meteor]

They give active benefits so yeah

[barren anvil]

I dont understnad why people like SB.

[bright meteor]

Sb is so great with the Dr

[barren anvil]

He doesnt clear shit. (atleast mine)

[bright meteor]

It gives multiplicative xp and Dr

Based on plunderous kills

[pliant ferry]

There is 1 thing I will get on my SB and he will be banished to Gmush forever more

[barren anvil]

Yes i got a few and then left him again,

[bright meteor]

I can't do that for now but he gets 2m/h I think

[rapid shale]

once you upgrade his skills he actually clears stuff very well

[barren anvil]

What did the gmush do to him tho?

[pliant ferry]

that sheet dmg though 🤤

[rapid shale]

also yea SB sheet damage go stupid

[barren anvil]

Currently struggling to get 75 flag score in Rift because i neglected SB

smh

[bright meteor]

Nah rift is some baby stuff (I'm at 47)

[barren anvil]

im somewhere below 41

[pliant ferry]

This is my "strong" ES

[bright meteor]

Not neglected at all

[barren anvil]

Put on some clothes man!

[bright meteor]

Bro got those op w8 rings

[pliant ferry]

Slowly but surely getting the dungeon rings. They just go to everyone else first

[frigid swift]

this is what peak construction looks like

[rapid shale]

that is a heinous board

[pliant ferry]

it makes my eyes bleed

[barren anvil]

@bright meteor @lethal aspen Am heading night night. Any further tips will be appreciated but most likely not read if not via direct message. Thank yall for your time.

[lethal aspen]

gnite, time for me to start working too

[dapper kraken]

how to unlock soverign artifacts ? the chances are too low

[pliant ferry]

When you find out let me know

[rapid shale]

you have the jade emporum unlock? the biggest arti multis are summoning, the new lantern artifacts, turtle vial

[dapper kraken]

i'm only at frost relic and it's 0.01/0.02 %

[lethal aspen]

thats where i got stuck as well, so i just went for fury and got it

[rapid shale]

frost relic is where it drops off

[bright meteor]

I don't think I've really given any

Alchemy isn't looking that bad though

Except larry

[dapper kraken]

guess i need to push for lantern artifacts and turtle vial

it's gonna be a LONG LONG WHILE

[bright meteor]

Bro really bought the gem flags

Mine was really slow because I wasn't focusing on cons but it's pretty easy

[lethal aspen]

cog p2 wen

[bright meteor]

Sigil p2w hmmm, there's lots of factors but idk how many points the ionized ones require

[rapid shale]

wiki shows how much

[bright meteor]

Can't really worry if all of them aren't boosted

[rapid shale]

you can also continue levelling sigil even if you dont have ionized unlocked

[bright meteor]

Haven't checked

[bright meteor]

Ik my 8 chars are on sigils 24/7

[rapid shale]

yea, theres a reason I dont want to touch Bubo for a while

[frigid swift]

bro did lava ninja make you have to click longer for candy to activate

[pliant ferry]

encouraging you to hoard it

the way it was intended

[frigid swift]

70 hours of candy no w4 splicer recipe. time to go back to CCing

[bright meteor]

For info I'm doing w4 statues in case

[strong nexus]

you candy you weay to the receipy? i just droping octopus ball for the green stack achivement and got it

ho wait that wasnt a hat that the lab shoe 1 more thing for my slab yeah

[bleak gazelle]

aww yiss

[hollow palm]

For nightmare Kattlekruk do the moles have more health? or just the boss?

[hexed elm]

do active characters still benefit from the mantra div style? 🤔

[fallow aurora]

probably not since divinity can only be done actively

[lethal aspen]

I'd think yes since mantra is the give exp to whole team one

your physically switching chars to collect the mantra xp

[fallow aurora]

oh I was thinking about TranQi

[hexed elm]

oh true i didnt think about that

[strong nexus]

ho i want that bonus so bad

[frigid swift]

should i bother getting the rest of these or just keep going on red

[lethal aspen]

get and infinite the top one, it gives 6% fight afk

[hexed elm]

honestly i would get the whole triangle

[frigid swift]

eh there. got all the ones that seemed meh or better

[hexed elm]

you kinda have to to unlock the 3rd tab

[strong nexus]

what a dreamy image

[frigid swift]

still no infinate reds though sadly.

just knocked out like 20 consetellations i skipped over lol

there was a lot of clicking. now im tired :p

[jolly salmon]

What level dk should I have to be pushing?

[strong nexus]

300 cd for the double barel +2k batery easy goal but boring

[pliant ferry]

good now go click your po box

[frigid swift]

i cant. im CCing

do my PO boxes for me. '

[lucid sentinel]

RIP

[frigid swift]

so close

[strong nexus]

what is beter to use on my splicer w6 boost or kattlekruk boost

[surreal ember]

Is your bubo on the left with his talent for giving range in lab maxed?

[bright meteor]

Nice

[hexed elm]

okay its actually driving me insane using 1/2 ladle at a time to level my shit, the amount of times a click is mistaken for another click drives me nuts, it constantly clicks me to the w4 shop vendor

[bright meteor]

Best way to progress on Idleon is to sacrifice other games (activities) if you do so you can get more playtime and active longer

[empty horizon]

I made a poor choice regarding sigils, all my characters are on Sigils and I told myself that they will be doind that until all of them are maxed

[lucid sentinel]

does arctis trigger the lab sample bonus?

or is it a graphical bug

[calm bridge]

feel good this dungeon is still in the game

[short sparrow]

I should really focus on dungeons more, 2/5 equinox dreams are dungeon related rn

Actually maybe 3/5

[calm bridge]

most unfun and unreawarding mechanic

[short sparrow]

Yeah,,

[bright meteor]

Bro you wanna fight

[hasty harness]

Guys, what is the best statue to farm to 100k?

i was sugested to farm chopping statue from the mines

and i did a quick test with my best miner:

[olive drift]

Mining way pretty easy

[hasty harness]

300 statues/hr

= 33h

inst it too low?

PLUS, it will mean i will have to fix vman mining... again....

[hexed elm]

wait can you put more than 1 shiny of a type in the fenceyard to level them up faster?

[bleak gazelle]

yes

[hexed elm]

wow

[bleak gazelle]

and why aren't you just mining on vman anyway??

or just gather all your other statues on the way to 100k

power statues are hella fast

[trail fable]

unlocked vman, after the first run deathnote decreased as expected - next day all my deathnote across all worlds tripled for some reason

any ideas?

[frigid swift]

sounds like normal idleon shenanigans

[gentle furnace]

Did you focus on dr aside from afk%?

[hasty harness]

the card set was dr

and only have dr ools

[frigid swift]

i found 100k statues to be pretty quick on like DK and bubo. havnt tested ES yet. Vman i plan to mine for them.

[hasty harness]

yeah, only takes like 2 days active for 20k...

[frigid swift]

lol yea only 2 days per char.

damn almopst to 200k CC without chocy chip.

[hasty harness]

https://rickmaior.idleonefficiency.com

i need better crystal 😦

[bold geyser]

8.62DR, full upgraded silver pop obols
4/4 5* drop rate cards (last 2 are w6 it seems)

I guess I just active DK at Sandy pots till the end of time now

[bleak gazelle]

sounds like a plan

get them dice obols

[bold geyser]

The 3 card drop rate cards are all 4* too

https://tenor.com/view/honest-word-its-honest-work-it-aint-much-it-aint-much-but-its-honest-work-gif-13763573

[stiff oasis]

get drop rate prayer boost ur drop rate too

[strong nexus]

if you conect you character and statut drop from the afk does it count as actif went you pick it up?

[old edge]

Anyone know how king doot effects Purrmep

[rapid shale]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

Allows a second god link on your ES

[bold geyser]

Despair

[bleak gazelle]

you still need one person to link to it

ideally your highest

[still apex]

It feels nice to finally have everyone out of lab.
They've been doing nothing for too long

[frigid swift]

imagine leaving lab

[bleak gazelle]

never

[frigid swift]

i dont even play the game i just sit here and watch my lab afk timers go up

[bold geyser]

DK farming feels so underwhelming compared to ES

[gilded sedge]

I disagree, once choco chip gets going everything goes crazy

[bold geyser]

i have choco on both and i get more from ES so far

Idk i guess the animations and how fast things spawn/die is more satisfying on my ES where I am in the game rn

[pliant ferry]

It may look fancier.... but I think mathematically it's just not possible

[old edge]

when you link to it does everyone get it or no?

[old edge]

They farm for dif things

[bleak gazelle]

no clue

only thing i know is this

[short sparrow]

Ended tonight's bean farm with 9k power, I'm getting there!

Also enough frags to make another sparkle dice obol, an unexpected but welcome benefit

[old edge]

Thanks 😄

[hybrid halo]

DK for statues/money. ES for mats, cards and rare drops that drop from normal mobs.

[bleak gazelle]

dk over bubo for money? or just for him?

[hybrid halo]

DK over bubo

Orb is huge for money drops.

[bleak gazelle]

i see times have changed then

[hybrid halo]

DK was probably always better, just took awhile to be found out.

[bleak gazelle]

maybe due to new higher orb levels?

[frigid swift]

bubo best because CC and bubo cool

🙂

[hybrid halo]

Not really, did help tho.

[bold geyser]

Yea i get what DK vs ES is like, what they each excel at etc.

I'm just saying ES for now FEELS better, seeing more mobs, more animations, higher #'s on portal vs orb, my inventory fills up a lot faster. + I finished all my silver pop obols in 2 days.

I've been 6 hours deep and haven't seen a dice obol yet on my DK. The trophy stack isn't anything crazy cuz it still takes me forever to spawn the initial crystal mob before choco kicks in and 6x's it on average

Also my ES has a cooler outfit and better premium hat so i'm definitely biased

[stiff oasis]

wait 6 hrs not yet single dice obol?

what is ur drop rate

[bold geyser]

ive been pretty unlucky

[rapid shale]

Bubo is out because it stops sigil progress when CC is active

[bold geyser]

8.68x

[stiff oasis]

should be fine tho, where do u farm ur obols

[bold geyser]

i want to get into bubo farming but im quite a ways from that

[stiff oasis]

i feels like dice obols is easier than pop obols

[bold geyser]

Sandy pots as recommended here; i've seen sand castles on griffy's ch too

[bold geyser]

Yea that's what i heard but not what i've experienced so far

Then again nothing on my acc progression has felt normal

[stiff oasis]

i see, i farm at snelbie

currently im at 13x drop rate

[chrome kernel]

is cogtimzer the best cog board optimizer?

[rapid shale]

Cogtimizer bad

[bold geyser]

My snelbie card capped so i went back to sandy pots cuz glass shards always useful

[chrome kernel]

okk..?

[stiff oasis]

i tested with my DK sandy pots slower than snelbie

[rapid shale]

just follow this

[stiff oasis]

because our DK knight and orbs lvl low to maintain 2 floors

i assume ur DK knight and orbs lvl below 200 lvl right

mine 231 lvls still cant forever clear 2 floors yet

[chrome kernel]

ok i only have 2/8 zen cog purchases.

[bold geyser]

My account is like 4 weeks old Library super underdeveloped

Best i've hit so far is ~lv146ish

[stiff oasis]

then just farm one floor first

unless u really active control ur DK to farm 2 floor

this is what im doing, farm snelbie get tons of dice roll

[rapid shale]

aim to get four, but the board still stands, if you cant place more zen cogs, just do xp cogs instead of yin and directional XP instead of Yang

[stiff oasis]

now i got 3 char full drop rate obols

all full drop rate

[bold geyser]

Yea i did snelbies from 0 cards to capped Lv4, and only got 4 dice obols out of it

at that point i already had ~6x DR

Dice obols hate me i s2g

[stiff oasis]

but tbh, obols farm better with crystal

if u cant do crystal farm, then just do other things first dnt waste much time at obols

after u get ur chocolate chip at w4 lab, then all obols is easy

[bold geyser]

i bought 2 choco chips

[stiff oasis]

owh and ur crystal spawn rate?

[bold geyser]

never figured out how to raise it yet; i should slot in a couple cards instead of Card Drop%

Oh i need to go farm poops and W4 genies huh

[stiff oasis]

yes u should go for crystal spawn chance card

[stiff oasis]

yes without crystal u hard to farm statue and obols

[bold geyser]

nice a new direction

tyvm!

[stiff oasis]

wlc, so now u just need to get higher crystal spawn rate then ezpz

[bold geyser]

Now i gotta transfer my drop setup back to my ES and go back to card farming

[stiff oasis]

rmb get crystal spawn stamp too

not sure whether u hav it ady

[bold geyser]

yea i have it

[stiff oasis]

okay nice goodluck with crystal spawn card farm

currently mine 1.63% crsytal spawn rate, which still consider low

but good enuf to farm obols and statue

[bold geyser]

where do you check it

[stiff oasis]

idleon toolbox

[bold geyser]

ah gotcha

[stiff oasis]

yea goodluck

[short sparrow]

You should double check to make sure you don't have dice obols filtered, 6 hours is ridiculous

[bold geyser]

It's not filtered

i was watching it while i was at work

kept it up on my 2nd screen

[short sparrow]

I have a similar dr and my obols fill up pretty quick

[bleak gazelle]

i would check anyway, i did the same with cauldron statues

[stiff oasis]

Ayy same for me rn but 1hr not looking at it, my obols is full af

[bleak gazelle]

but for me it was like 1.5 days active

[bold geyser]

My filters are empty; never used them

[bleak gazelle]

feelsweirdman

[stiff oasis]

Just dnt farm obols without crystal mobs

[bold geyser]

It's aight; i quit maplestory for the same reason

[echo gulch]

Guys pre crime boxes are not gstackable right?

[rapid shale]

they are not

[river orbit]

Thanks for the help ealier, was able to go fetch another 10m damage, and killed the W5 boss in 10 minute, not pretty, but I can finally play the game

[bold geyser]

waiting for the day a madlad gstacks hat premiumfiers

[sage zealot]

how do i get new slab bonuses? i only have damage

is it jsut through artifacts?

[rapid shale]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=slab

[surreal ember]

I've already started

[sage zealot]

wow

that site is HUGE

thank you so much mate!!

[lethal aspen]

[bold geyser]

Omg you motivated me to respec everything hardcore to BIG DPS and i'm clearing kattle

[lethal aspen]

seems your still here, the main reason i hate ES is desync 😦

[river orbit]

books helped a lot, the +30 max level is huge for some skills

[bold geyser]

Progress

[river orbit]

hes doing it

[lethal aspen]

where flag

the 0 effect flag is the best

[bold geyser]

im too smol brained for that; ALL DPS ALL THE TIME

POGGING OUT RN

[lethal aspen]

time to summon farm and sneak

[bleak gazelle]

[lethal aspen]

is that the expensive one? noice

[bleak gazelle]

good good, just as i was running out

nah, the middle one

i'm not that good at the game yet

i should probably farm w4 statues, but about halfway done with w5 now

[lethal aspen]

Wonder how long the coin after marbiglass would take 🤔

[bold geyser]

is it best practice to port everyone into w6 for anything? Sneaking maybe?

[lethal aspen]

just follow the tutorial, you don't need them all to go w6

[bold geyser]

oh pog

[lethal aspen]

all i'd say is try unlock the sneaking quickref asap

[bold geyser]

Yea that was the quest i was on right when ia sked

[lethal aspen]

sneaking u need to manually unlock chars, only your 1st char is usable by default

[bold geyser]

summoning is fun

[bleak gazelle]

bruh, is this mofo gonna move?

[bold geyser]

I see scary numbers in w6 chat. I'll stay here for a while

[muted scroll]

yeah, i tried clicking on it and ended up using a chemical

[lucid garden]

Should I push w5 with DK or ES? I pushed w4 with DK so it is ahead atm. Or is sth else better?

[zinc torrent]

es good for pusing at double god link
nobisect (x2kill) + snake (+30% afk)
also add lab killerbrightside (x2kill)
so ur at x4kill with +30% afk

map pushing goes brrr

[idle frost]

I hate suggma, I have more than 1bil kills on them and still no recipe spent hundreds of candies and no recipe I hate them

Dr is currently 14.35x spent 45 2 hours and 30 1 hours and nothing

Spent 72h 2x24h and 5x12h when Dr was 12x and nothing

I am exactly 1,192,650,706 kills RN and not recipe

At least I have doot @lethal aspen

[lethal aspen]

oneday

[idle frost]

Sorry I am still tilt over the suggma I didn't mean to be harsh

[deft grail]

Guys should I just bite the bullet and upgrade my last three toons to an Elite class

[lethal aspen]

wait for the update tomorrow first

[deft grail]

isn't tomorrow just Tasks

[idle frost]

No it is update

[deft grail]

okay Patrick

[lethal aspen]

who knows it might affect your class choices

[idle frost]

Finally released from Google's grasp

I don't know what I hate more Suggma or the horrible mechanics in EA PGA Tour

[lucid garden]

Does this change with doot already unlocked?

I will get my last toon today so I will defenitly wait for the update. Who knows what it brings 😄

Probably the 3rd archer class but maybe I will change my mind 3 3 3 1 is the most versatile

[zinc torrent]

idk about doot since i dont hv one xd

[lucid garden]

😦

I rerolled my acc for it. I only progressed to w3 with the old one. Its massive how big of a boost I got reaching w5 just now.

[junior arrow]

with doot, if you just looking for the one that can push maps the fastest, nothing kills faster then bubo if setup right

[zinc torrent]

that is if they hv lv200 tentacle eye talent

[snow dove]

wtf is that

[toxic saddle]

Your going crazy right now

Nvm, low brightness 😅

[snow dove]

no

glitch

help

had to restart game :(

[toxic saddle]

Nah. Your killing it

[frigid swift]

that happens to be if im playin another game as well sometimes

[verbal acorn]

why do skill points just disappear and reappear sometimes? when i was speccing my bubo, i ran out of points so i went to do something else

and a few hours later i noticed he had 142 points remaining

[echo gulch]

Vman

[misty spindle]

gjob

I suggest leveling the meal speed talent after doing a soeedrun

[echo gulch]

Ohk

[misty spindle]

speedrun

[sly cedar]

grats!

the meal speed talent barely does anything until you hit a decent level of meal numbers btw

mine only gives me 1%

[frigid swift]

↑

[echo gulch]

Any tips at the start that i should consider?

[frigid swift]

use vman for mob mat samples during speedruns

[sly cedar]

level the vman points maestro talent to max and put all those points into speedrun for your first run to get longer timer

the amount of tab 4 points you get is determined by how many portals you open

[echo gulch]

So i take mob samples during the speedrun?

[sly cedar]

i would suggest for your first speedrun, just try get as many points as you can

[echo gulch]

Yes thats why i maxed the maestro void point talent before hand

[sly cedar]

you can sample next time

[echo gulch]

But do we take the samples during the speedrun right

[sly cedar]

theres a speedrun guide in tips n tricks i believe

[echo gulch]

Ohk

[sly cedar]

my garden has looked like this for dayyyyyys.
there's still one upgrade to go on each of these right? with the default amount of evolutions possible, not counting superbits upgrade ones?

or do they have 1 less evolution than sprouts?

[echo gulch]

Also i heard killing nightmare bossses also counts as chaotic and normal boss kill along with nightmare

Is that correct

[sly cedar]

yes

i would recommend on your first run, learn how the speedrun works, unless you have a crazy amount of keys, just do chaotic and save your keys for when you can be sure you will do a good run

[echo gulch]

Ah ok

[misty spindle]

also doing a sample on mobs is recommended during a speedrun, while having the buff from the attack that increases MK

[echo gulch]

Ah i tried going by the optimal speedrun in tips and tricks

And unlocked 6 portals on the firat run

Guess my damage is lacking

[still apex]

Is species epoch factored in when collecting traps or placing?
I wanna say my critters have increased without replacing them

[sly cedar]

you must have been lacking the skill that instant kills and gives speed %

multikill%*

i got like 20 portals or something on first speedrun, you should be able to get wayyy more than 6

[misty spindle]

he probably forgot to use the active ability for bigger MK

[arctic steeple]

hello there, since some time now all my plants refresh simultaneously on the gaming interface when my DK is active, I'm probably missing something but can't figure what. Any idea?

[teal lynx]

The W6 Farming Crop depot buff that says " 10x gaming evo" (or more) is actually gaming speed. So you now regrow plants every 5 seconds or so and therefore they insta grow

[arctic steeple]

Oh makes sense! Cheers mate

[abstract flume]

how do you turn the kitsune roxie on for gaming it saids tap it i do nothing happens

[karmic nacelle]

Take all youre plants

When ur board had 0 then you can turn on

[clever narwhal]

So I kinda forgot about the atom collide. I have up till nitrogen unlocked, everything at lv 1 except this screenshot. Is there any specific thing to focus?

I feel like Helium is a good one to improve prints by a lot, but I'm not sure

[main thicket]

For div, is there any ways other than style and ES to increase total div points

[teal wyvern]

God's passives and sailing artifacts

[main thicket]

Booo

Almost at w6 with my main and only 1/4th the way to God 4

Guess that's why it's so easy to gain all world shrine bonus

Since you'll never be able to be efficient and push the same map ever again

[calm bridge]

how am i suppose to do the quest when only archer can do it?

[main thicket]

Why can only an archer do it?

[teal wyvern]

Here you have multipliers to div points

[main thicket]

Guess it gets better atleast

[main thicket]

I'm confused, I never thought you needed that to finish

[calm bridge]

u did treasure hunt 3?

[main thicket]

Oh no not yet but why would you have to wear something specific? Usually you just drop it somewhere

That's ass quest design from the get go lol

[floral torrent]

ye I had to do all the steps again but on my archer 💀☠️💀

[quartz crystal]

Do on archer
The previous quests save but u have to do the steps again

[whole slate]

boron

[whole slate]

u go do it on a archer

[lucid sentinel]

What do i do to make actively doing divinity as ES worth it?

[lethal aspen]

?

[lucid sentinel]

I was told that eventually actively doing divinity on ES is the best thing to do.

[whole slate]

thats pitiful

[whole slate]

u cant active div

[sharp mauve]

Even with Tran-Qi style, you have to get away from ES to get the Div XP.

[clever narwhal]

Guess I'll improve my prints first

[pliant ferry]

when you collect the trapper drone on a character without a increasted pet bag...... 😐

[junior arrow]

run down to the prayers and equip rucksack if you didnt already

it will help at least

[pliant ferry]

ty, was too busy slashing my wrists

wake up all the way before doing idleon things 👍

[somber sundial]

gonna take ages

[nocturne isle]

Are raw luck points worth more than drop %? Looking at cards and farming the pop obals.

[somber sundial]

no

way worse

[nocturne isle]

sweet, thats what I was hoping to hear lol. now, multi kill vs luck points for farming obals? Pusing for a lightly higher damage/multi kill better?

like an 80 point luck vs 5% damage?

[somber sundial]

multi kill doesnt provide more loot

[nocturne isle]

ah damn

[somber sundial]

but 80 luck wont change the drop anyway

[pliant ferry]

something to remember with obol farming too, if you recruited several characts doing it afk. You are capped at 1 from each AFK claim

[somber sundial]

active farming for obols is better anyways

[echo crag]

offline farming obol will always result in only get 1 of a given type of obol regardless how long you afk for

[cobalt nymph]

is it better to farm for the splicer recipies active on DK or AFKing

[pliant ferry]

Oh much better, but 10 a day +2 afk is still 20% gain

[lucid sentinel]

does doot give divinity points

[echo crag]

still need to sit on the altar or in lab to get divinity pts with doot

[brave holly]

so i've had a dude at suggmas farming for the adept recipe since release, i see it was found once in my card thing but the anvil entry for the suggma drop is still a "?". does the recipe still drop if it's been "found"?

[still apex]

If you've consumed the recipe it is removed from the card drop table, if the card shows the recipe paper itself i believe that can be caused by finding any adept recipe

[somber sundial]

you didnt unlock it so yea

[river quail]

Should I use this on maestro? Cause he is a little behind on some skill

[obtuse brook]

In fishing, just go to seasalt island (4th island) and fish for big fish
The exp gain there is collosal

[river quail]

Im lvl 26 😆

[strong nexus]

so what to do while waithing for those 2500 batery to drop the game i was playing crash and now refuse to load

[frigid swift]

i use the crap out of those lol. boosted almost all my char skills to 50

[frigid swift]

Black sails just hit nettflix you could binge watch it

[deft pecan]

how can you have maestro with that level?

[frigid swift]

rather easily

[strong nexus]

im not much of a show watcher more a reader but i kinda run out of mawha to read to

[river quail]

fishing level 26

my maestro it self is 98 😄

[radiant gazelle]

Should I be pushing with my DK or my Bubo? Currently i'm on my bubo (1-2.7m)

[strong nexus]

that meastro is still way before he can become voidman so that nothing impressive

[deft pecan]

dk

[radiant gazelle]

okayy fun

[frigid swift]

i prefer bubo myselfg

[radiant gazelle]

bubo is on my first slot but DK just gets better accuracy

[river quail]

should i keep going to this island if every artifact is found?

[graceful fern]

Nah, find some more artifact at all the next island

[eternal wasp]

Use them

[eternal wasp]

You can get ancient artificats if you go to same island but the odds are more rare

[river quail]

yeah i just came in to W5 like a few days ago, i dont know if i should focus on that atm

[eternal wasp]

Ah, go to new island then

[graceful fern]

Yeah i get all the ancient form for that island alone take almost a week

[river quail]

maybe when i get more ships

then ill go for ancient artifact

[cloud condor]

I'm new w5 with void and w3 boss armor should I have someone push to w6 or catch up on stuff

Cuz def is low but that can happen easily

[river quail]

What should my first 4 star card be? i have 2 items that can make a card 4 star

[eternal wasp]

Dr or crystal cards

[atomic onyx]

If you have enough damage definitely push to w6. Make a character push while the others push divinity till the bear god

[whole rock]

Been working on my drop rate and now I can comfortably farm the blankie

[lucid sentinel]

How does polythiesm work, can I link toa second god with it at lvl 2

[rapid shale]

yes

[bleak gazelle]

aye yo, lets gooo

[pliant ferry]

Mine is STILL going

10mil nugget please

[bleak gazelle]

[pliant ferry]

didn't get very good gaming procs this morning though, bad AFK procs and bad logs.

[pliant ferry]

lol

But I'm sure your gaming is maxed and it doesn't matter to you W6ers

[rapid shale]

still need these

[gentle furnace]

whats your bit multi

[rapid shale]

only until my snail resets from 19

[rapid shale]

lol, basically the same

[gentle furnace]

i have 21 snail tho