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ye, it was a pretty dumb fix
do you know if the character in sigil still gets alchemy exp ?
I think? all my chars are about 140 alchemy except bubo at 150
i see ty
also depositing all the statue is okey or startue exp dosent work when depositing all of them '?
when you click deposit all, startue only works on statues that are in storage and not on those in your inventory
if you manually deposit it works as intended
so if i depo all my "chopping" statue manually it works ?
or if you have them all in storage and click deposit all
okey ty
is there an ideal map to farm money on bubo? or any map will do?
tremor wurm is the best
hmm those guys are a bit too tough for me I think
then citric for money
once you increase your max hp, there is no problem
and these statue are done ๐
1% is 1/100 .5 is 1/200
Pretty standard 
Mk i think
How long am I meant to keep everyone in divinity for?
this doesnt go past 6 evos right
you need to unlock plat evos. mine goes up to 7
this yeah? I just couldnt remember if leveling up that previous pic was increasing evos or just chance
there is another one from sneaking
is leveling the chance more worth it? it seems to not even move idk if I should go higher tho whats yours at
it is, but it's not a priority
Until you unlock tranqi on everyone at lvl 40. That way you will earn passive divinity xp
Nah but maybe 2 weeks
or do other stuff first and come back to div later once you got enough exp multis
but not to delay it for too long tho, tran qi is also good to unlock early (but not too early to take weeks worth of afk time)
Yeah that's another option
I had like 3 characters that did other things while the rest prayed
In lab obviously
The divinity xp bubble is quite good if you can unlock it, but you probably want tent 200 on bubo to get it which I doubt you can get yet
does upgrading pong really not do anythinhg
I did some class leveling bcs it was easy for me. Then came back once I got enough Artifacts to break the gate.
can anybody help with:
"Collect Player Rating With Letter P": 0/1
"1 star, game sucks!" on pizza 1 world 1 town
would greatly appreciate getting this done ;_;
guys how do u start to use ur bubo ? do u really need the 200+ skill lvl ? if no how i can staert using him at my stage just gotten 2 world 5 like a week ago been doing nothing but divinity on all
what is bubo again
U can still use your daily CC on W4 Soda or anything u could 1 shot with.
Otherwise it might be better to do other things like Vman, Divinity grind, etc.
oh yeah i havent even unlocked world 5 on my other chars, sooo the play is i keep everyone in divinity till goat then get them in lab and put mman on skill and grind the rest of my chars 2 unlocking world 5 ?
Yes, and keep getting Artifacts and see.
big question does the geneva convention apply on things like walking oranges
No
I just unlocked chemical plant, when should I pick it and what makes it so good?
Chem plant turns into time progression. A few evo tiers up and you can infinitely chain gaming with them.
So should I just try to not touch them until I get multiple high Evo chem plants?
it gives hours of gaming progress
t1=1 hour
t2=4 hours
t3=9 hours
t4=16 hours
and so on
are the new classes out yet?
Do the Kattle moles have more HP at higher levels? if so how much hp do they have at the nightmare level?
I would say: always keep 1 chem plantโฆ so get a chem plant, wait until a new one comes along, and use the old one
Yes, squire is insane 
Or save them up
What do you mean you haven't unlocked W5 on your other characters?
im not sure i think he dont know that you only need 1 character to unlock world 5 then you can just use the portal whit your other character to have w5 unlock on you map
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Get it with 1%, like me
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Now go for the 1%
fail
Complain, it works
to the manager?
No
Another day, another 50 boxes and no new hat 
What new hat?
well the only advantage i got from that black lense achivement is i got so many speed statut my es movemen speed pass from 120 to 180
Best way to get hampter is ES active or is there any better?
es or dk active whit high dr
Can the 105minute minimum for sailing be lowered?
Mainly by leveling your SB (Family Talent) and there is one shiny pet (doggo) that helps
ah was wondering why SB 
@olive drift i get the feeling the game wants to tell you something
alright
went the game give you a new hat but its not a prenium and you already have better hat on all you character what im supose to do whit that green apple hat
+1 slab and looty
Eat it.
its in my chest for almost a week now i dont think its fresh anymore
lmao its not even in slab
now we need a food cape
the only thing i could do whit that is to preniumifi it but i dont think the bonus will be good
dripping with blood
Im so lazy, I still need to get that trophy done
i need a cake wand and a cake hat
don't know if i'll ever do the w3 trophy , damn yondergreen
weapon need there own prenium skin
Can somebody with a 25k pong score tell me what their multiplier is?
Do the bleach liquid cauldrons stack with the draconic ones or does the draconic replace the bleach upgrade?
Thanks! should've upgraded to bleach earlier then
what should i buy whit 483 gem
I've got one so far, will be getting them whenever they become available
any reason why i can get a book ?
do you have max book turned on
bruh ofc i do
yeh if its turned on in the top left you cant check out unless you have the 20
such a nice QOL change
i totally remember of use it once in my life and forgetting to turn it off
awww snap finally hit top 50
welcome in the club
how does the gordonius major hydron star sign work exactly?
does it give you more cooking speed based on how many characters equip it or is it limited to one
lol that just says how crap i am because i have doot and only just hit 50%
Nah, the numbers are lying 
is there a way to use bottle wind efficiently? the sailing 6 hour one
What's better, kattlecruk scarf or the tooth?
Generally Divine scarf, but i keep around a necklace or two for my active chars
Ok cool. That's sortof what I was thinking was the case
Now if I could get the tooth necklaces...
whos the best splicerr??
to spam the artifact you want most
is there a certain way I should be lvling these up?
I focused on first boat (it scales easiest due to gold bars) for unlocking new islands, and some loot for more boats. Then focusing on getting all ur boats speed up is important, luckily after the first few boats the each use different resources
awesome, keeping this in mind.
i was linked earlier but now im not... how do i fix it so i am linked to bear boy
is ur main link bear on this char?
no bug boy
are u following this for polytheism?
slowly but surely we makin our way there.
looks like no, Arctis is on multiples 1, 11, 21, etc. you have the talent leveled at 2
Should start maxing some of the easy material and monster mat ones for vial mastery
yeh ill get to it. im working on greenstacks atm since im a ways away from vial mastery
hiii i have a quick question about bubo cauldron that i don't really know where to ask anywhere else but im kinda at this point in the game progression-wise
so i'm getting about 40k seconds worth of time on my bubo every cranium cooking
just ask
im just not strong enough for OJs right now and finally got the push to 200 on tenteyecle
Do you have the alchemy and mana boxes? They help a lot
flombeige then
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i have alch boxes being worked on. i think im at like 150 on that and 100 on mana but im out of boxes
40k is quite low honestly
flombeige is which enemy again? i have been using cans :(
jellyfish
ive noticed a good amount of difference with 40k but i really need something around 200k per to start really progressing in alchemy hotspots like leveling up for toxic mercury and finishing up w5 bubble unlocks and grind time ofc
im up to around 3 mil per cookin roadkill level rn
You will get above 100k in no time with the boxes, citringe and a few cookin roadkill levels
I can CC at tremos and im not even close to 200k. i avg like 120k-140k and that will last a while
You probably dont have good crystal chance or choco
Crystals won't really be many enough to matter then
does the chocolate chip really make that big of a difference in time? i didn't have the unlocked spices last rotation
I would start with what Trials said then, Cookin roadkill and CC talent are pretty important to level
It's up to like 1/6 extra if you have doublers and chip
its pretty awesome. when im CCing at tremors my screen gets flooded with crystals.
But that doesn really matter yet
Its way more than 1/6 lategame
maybe my liquid an hour isn't great then. i get 9 water/nitrogen and around 7 trench with a guy on water and a guy on trench
i still cant break 150k consistantly though. i gotta work on my bubble lol
i don't have ivory trench
do you have the lab node active that increases your cap? if so get rid of it
Shouldn't it be 4 times crystal chance? Or is it more lava math
Oh my b im dumb, i though you meant 1/6 more gains for CC
i do, yes. i know it's not recommended but i don't have equinox rollover upgrade yet so making sure i don't go over the cap is kinda important for cc
No I meant CC only from crystal mobs
hmm thats tricky. thats why your liquid generation is so low
for reference im stuck at equinox rn pushing for the last of 20 greenstacks and for 2 dungeon flurbo stats to get maxed
nowhere close to a level 300 construction guy or strong enough for vengeful grandfrogger
I mean the more crystals you kill the faster you spawn enemies. This means more crystal spawn, etc
i guess my real worry with my CC progress is how long it'll take me to get to liquid mercury. my highest alch level is 60 on my bubo
Vengeful grandfrogger can be suprisingly easy if you're dungeon lvl 40
level will go up fast once you start CCing
When doing checkout should i prioritize... the base class like mage or should i focus on elemental sorcerer or only worry about books when i have points and need to use then
thank you, i'll totally look into this
Crits are simply op
so im guessing the name of the game here is to just get lucky with an early horn of the foal drop and just spam purchase literally only rng items
pretty much. and get lots of crit
is this suggesting not killing any bosses until my damage is considerably high enough for all of them?
i still havnt done it yet. soon i hope though
equinox is so hard ;(
i feel like im really in need of that alch overflow dream eventually
luckily the grand frogger one is not required to unlock more equinox.
thankfully yeah
You basically will have enough damage from just the horn, but if you have low crit chance it will be slow anyway
These are the ones im on. total time gate to progress because of shrines.
And the rng is not that bad since you will always get a coinflip as a choice and if you get the rare choice it will always have the horn
I'm going all in on leveling my dr cards
It's only 50/50
Getting my doot to 4* today 
i have those first 2, 20 greenstacks (around 16/20 soon), maxing out 5 flurbo stats, and reaching wave 50 on citric conflict
ive been salt locked for a long time but im FINALLY getting somewhere with salts and build rate (for leveling up towers)
nice. i did 50 citric not long ago. had to get my PE tower to 25
purchased/unlocked literally every jewel but 3 and one of them is the build rate one ;(
but i have ~425k build rate rn which i think is good enough
yeah unfortunately my dude is only like 15
also side question is there any way to ever raise the max construction levels for the storage chest?
i maxed that out and even after like 6 chest storage purchases in the gem shop i am still always out of space
how good is the slow roast wiz equinox bubble btw? i don't think ill be able to unlock it and im not sure how much 50 in citric conflict hinges on damage over the course of a wave
Even after doot and brightside I'm only going to be at like 8.4 dr.. how the hell do I get more
I've squeezed every little bit I can out of my account
I feel like I'm missing something here
im in the same boat you are ;( im convinced high dr is a myth
granted i haven't grinded out full obol sets yet but im perpetually stuck at like 6-6.5x dr
it just seems so tedious
I guess I am lacking a couple obols
Short of 5* cardifying all my dr cards I can't go further on that
It's worth getting a good book for as well
After that it starts to be distributed in so many places or difficult to get. Like there's the sigil which can give a bunch combined with the artifact, a bunch of gear but a lot of it is either late game or gem shop, the DR companion and 1.2x bundle are also huge. Then we have W6 sources like summoning and the pristine charm which are big
Shiny pets can also give a slight boost, but leveling them is slow
Don't forget the chaotic chizoar card since that boosts the shrine
for vman, what stats are suggested to beat nightmare kattelkruk?
Enough dmg
And how can I forger midas minded prayer. It is one of the very best sources imo
i am guessing 4-7bil is not even close
Yea
Yea
Is it normal for my Elemental Sorcerer to be about the same damage-wise as my DK with worse gear and 2/3 of the levels-
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Pretty much
soon 
Youโre so close 
also soon 

By the way, my DK has a lot invested in extra talent levels while i dont have any library on my ES
Should I invest in my ES then? Or maybe my Bubo since that's technically my main-
I'm just entering w5 and can't do slugmas that well
Is 1,6m entering w5 not enough?
when i go to an area where he gets the 1.5x accuracy his damage does jump
I havent tried, on that, but its mostly bc i couldnt get 1.5x accuracy on my DK
Ur accurracy is INCERDIBLY low
Mine is like 25k without trying that much
Do you have the forsaken starsign perhaps?
Yeah sadly
mine is 21.1k and 26.1k with the boost
My plan is to reach w5 and work on every character back lmao
Boost of whay
same
I use the +50% accuracy prayer, its pretty nice
+48% acc - 9% dmg
You have really fucking heavy acc issues if ur stuck at that point
i did like quit for a year or two but im back now with the grind
Thats better
I will have to recraft a lot of items so that kinda sucks lmao
okay
thats with my dk even having premium hat, ring, cape lol
Es has a slight skill issur
Place him in some w4 map
Im going to be at the same stage of the game as you in a week
I will just be going back everywhere to get better gear prints and shit
im not interested in pushing i just wanna go back to fix alchemy and get gear and such, its just w5 has so much time-gated stuff its good to rush
i got a 1m damage DK and a LOT of food and pushed from the class trainer to w5 with candies
I cba candying my way to w5
I have 1 map left might aswell wait
I'll get back to you, i have school tomorrow cya
Nuked
if you candy w5, just make sure you have enough damage for the boss
i spent 15 minutes on the boss, got bored and made dinner, ate it, then spent 10 more minutes to kill it
sounds awful, but at least you killed it 
Do you guys have preferred maps for pre-building remembrance orb numbers before boss kills?
i ALWAYS lost the rng tasks
oh, you were talking w4 troll boss? even more rip then
its dead now, got my revenge from the tutorial
im trying to farm chaotic chiz cards and blankies, thinking i should pre-orb before i kill him to make the most of my remaining keys.
Thoughts on a good map to use to get orb numbers before i teleport in?
Don't think orb stacks transfer if you change maps
Here's someone talking about it in w6 chat
#endgame-chat-w7๐ message
oh really? damn
You can for minibosses since they spawn on the maps
i seeee, good to know, thanks
awww yeah, i got my 10 blankies
cost me about 300 tickets with around 7x drop rate
spent 200 of those on chaotic chiz, could have got a better rate on normal chiz but also would take a lot longer
also got a bunch of junk obols, some silver pens, and got my chiz card to plat and chaotic chiz to gold while i was at it
I remember the first blanket... thinking how impossible it was. Then Kruk was invented
ayyy
so ~1 in 333 per kill
then divide by drop rate,
so with 5 drop rate your chance is like 1 in 67 per kill, and you get the refund keys
grats ace
think i managed to get 3 blankies while doing the chiz merits for gear
was quite nice
thats pretty good luck tbh
"audible groan"
what an upgrade 
I've been stuck at 52k nugget for weeks
Eventually I'll get that equinox nugget upgrade
does anyone know if the procs for +hours on skills etc on afk claim, award partial hours?
Like if ive been offline for half an hour, and i get refinery progress, will it give me half an hour progress, or nothing?
For half an hour the game will tell you 1 hour, but only give half an hour of progress
So yes it does give partial
yeah, i know it says 1 hour. but good, it does actually award the half hour
thanks
im waiting on next red salt tier before my salt production can start again, then i gotta wait on an orange salt tier xD
It gets better
man, doot has made such an insannnne difference to my salt production
ignoring the printing benefits, my refinery is going roughly 3x as fast because of the free time procs
bruh when you upgrade everyone's gear at once, you burn through upg stones soooo fast lol
aye yo, wanna slide one of those doots over to me? 
and then you get 15 fails in a row on a 1/3 chance, damn it hurts
trading when?
i thought quack was buying you one
he doesn't even need to buy one, he's got like 3 
wtf lol
We people with doot call it the salt printer
its one of my favourite perks of doot tbh with where im at cause im softcapped on gear and tool upgrades cause of salt
My favorite perk of doot is not having to respec gods to minmax prints
yeah thats definitely up there for me too
Also just not having to care about lab
ive had doot for like 3 days, and ive only resampled wood so far -.- so lazy with sampling
ohhh yeah thats a pretty crazy bonus
Ehh thatโs not necessarily true. Still have to sit in lab later for Div XP (to increase minor link bonuses) as well as get the new jewels
this is honestly the biggest thing i'm looking forward to 
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But it is nice to focus elsewhere other than lab
what he means, i assume, is not having to worry about keeping all your lab bonuses active, ofc you still need to level it and div at some point
being able to afk farm on all 10 chars with lab still running and all other gods operating is pretty crazy
True, that is a fact
is funny people say Doot op because lab always active...but most of my people still sit in lab
because stupid shrine levels
Doot genuinely op tho
im gonna be doing the lab/div grind soon
Still takes long af
just getting to lvl 250 on all and trying to get lab/div exp bonuses up
i need the star signs
almost there
need like 4 more constellations
yeh i need more contellations
This guy dragging his feet a bit on the class level grind, everyone else is 240 +
Candy him at moles
i probably will
actually my main ES is my lowest level now
only 209, cause i keep activing on him for mats and rares
at lower level mobs
Get that ES up the damage scales stupidly
starting to run out of room lol
at a certain point, with refinery, does it start being able to produce enough salt in each rank that there's enough to get to the next rank before you run out of salts for the next salt type to use?
or do you always have downtime when waiting for a rank up?
depends on how much crafting you doin
true
Once you hit 1mil salt per refine it stops increasing. But the salt per cycle keeps going up. So it gets faster and faster. Eventually you can refine multiple times per day
I know some people have red salt down to an hour or less
eventually in like 30 years of refining ๐
Lvl26 on red salts right now
Iโm at 3 days per refine, which is like 1 red salt rank per 2 days with good omniphau procs
Good dmg source for Dk
unacceptable. i need more ladels
Ye the only class with infinite damage scaling for one of their talents
Dk is my main I like him
Ladle and multi tool stamp go brrrrrrr
sopmeday my DK will be better than my bubo
guess its back to printing more sharks soon then
50 more boxes, got another ice cream hat 
How is the hats luck
think this is from 800 boxes?
i just want the purple fish hat
I think I'm only missing these hats
Lmao
@frigid swift do u know hourly click
Meanwhile i got all the hats in 500 boxes
yes i know what an hourly click is
Ok are u able to do it
not even close
Lol
Look at his kraken print and you understand
Is there a bubble that needs kraken?
theres a green stack that does. and a vial that does
Vial and stamp yeah
Hourly click is only bubbles
what's hourly click?
1b print and then upgrade a bubble per hours
U print enough resources per hour to afford stat bubbles or other ones
I do str wis agi cooking roadkill, larry hourly clicks
I asked if there was a bubble that needed kraken to hourly click on but you told me other things that required it
It wasn't my question
There is no kraken bubble as far as Iโm aware
Ik I searched for it
is a big jump from my current stage to the next lol. go from 8% detection to 64%
You clicking hammer hammer? that bubble is very nice
Almost at level 20 fluoride than I am back to my hourly clicks
why there more inventory bag than the number of slot you can unlock?
Just got it to 100m today
So I can
Maybe one day those extra little guys will matter 
Larry 95% ๐ฃ๏ธ๐ฅ๐ฅ
ya but why would i make the pepper bag if all my character have max slot
Idk why would you?
outside of +1 on slab idk
I need 4T more to make my characters able to equip the same charm twice
Thereโs no reason to, so donโt besides that 1 I guess
Bro I bugged while typing this
one day i will have all the item (no minus the cash shop only) of that slab
ho wait i need a 11 or 12 character for some of those quest item i didnt know i would have need
as fishing stuff is not good but you need that for the sheriff trophy
Hey w5 idleoners
Is there any logic to golden nuggets? Cause i just randomly got 2.500 nugget few weeks ago, upgraded golden nugget many times in this time period, yet i cannot gain even 1000 nugget now.
What i ask is: is there somekinda formula of how it works or something else to see my chances of gaining bigger numbers?
The only thing that affects it is an equinox upgrade
Other than that yes it's pure rng
I see, thank you for the answer. I shall try to focus on getting equinox bonuses now.
Basically it takes a number between just above 0 and 1 and does 1 divided by said number times a multiplier you can increase by either upgrading the nugget with bits or through the equinox upgrade. This means that you almost certainly won't get anything close to the max possible nugget shown on ie and the only thing you can do to help you get a bigger nugget is claiming a lot of nuggets and those two upgrades.
rolling a 1-100 die and maybe and hopefully get a high number close too 100
yea that die is weighted heavily from 1-5
Except the sides are 100, 50, 33, 25, 20 and so on. Almost everything is under 10.
Like litterally the second best nugget is half of the maximum
And there are tons of possible numbers in the real nugget math
So the likelyhood of getting something decent is even worse than it would seem from the example
rolling a 100 sided die and getting 100 is when ur life's worth of luck gone
Does shared beliefs stack if I have 2 ES's?
its the div exp? no
just got myself into snapshot, so what can and cant i snapshot?
Card drop rate, mana pool, hp pool are snapshot stats that i knew of.
not sure when they will get changed.
can u snapshot obols and star signs?
Do the Kattle moles have more HP at higher levels? if so how much hp do they have at the nightmare level?
What's your tome % and points
Ok
What's the best set of 10 character classes to use currently I think I may have made some wrong choices in elite classes or outdated info led me astray
ey yo when do i get those % stats on tome
theyre from bubbbles
oh. meh
got the same question
my 9th character is a second barb and my 10th is still fully classless
Theres more bubbles that scale off of tome too that don't show up there
Imagine not having all bubbles unlocked
who needs w6 bubbles when you don't have mats 
This is the easiest one to level since it jade is like the easiest resource to get
Yes
The other one for archer dmg too
The ones that need summoning stuff when you'll be generating enough too
this one is staying at level 1 for a long time
i could throw 1000 levels into them and they'd do nothing ๐
i've got a few levels left to finish off my cauldrons
This is all I have
waaay more than me lol
Got ancient lantern today
yeah I don't have mushrooms
I think I could get more crops but I'm preparing with upgrades
what is the cap for plant evolution to unlock the last mutation
how much harder are the other 2 party dungeons compared to w1
66666
no i mean i dont get higher chance than 0,9% chance of unlock
@steep kiln what's your crop evo x?
Why is your xp multi big?
Uhhh I have the statue onyxed
Oh yeah
My vial for it is only level 2 which is really low, need to sample the new logs
Ik all my meals are like 52-40 lvl range
Probably just statue then
holy went did i got 57 shiny honker i unlock the mob yesterday
Idk I'm still working on w2 statues ๐ค
ho that a crazy chip i just got from gamble double the effect of the card at the top left of my card slot the card there give me 75% crystal mob spawn chance so now i have 150%?
Yes
i was gambling hoping for the choco chip but im not complaining there
O_O 200 speed statut drop in 25 min that even crazyer than i expect
Tomorrow: 4* doot card and maybe if I'm feeling fancy, 4* brightside
Is there a good guide to increasing movement speed?
Speed potions and statues my friend
i got speed potions already and im trying to start statue grinding
but im too slow lmao
thats pretty much all there is to it
aight what map do you farm on for speed statues?
food effect from statues + speed pots = zoom zoom
DK at beans
speed and feasty statue are both farmed at beans
i also need to get onyx
someone post a bigger number pls
damn
can i snapshot money cards?
yeah we have higher food effect
is there like a list of things that boosts food effect?
Feasty statue, there's a star talent, card set bonus, star sign
yea, food effect mainly comes from the Feasty statue scaling
so basically i just gotta keep grinding bored beans
i don't make that many statues though so i gotta up my crystal mobs
I'm getting 850% from feasty statue
what level is it?
also gets doubled by a sailing artifact for me
damn
is that idleon toolbox?
I do not have that artifact ๐ฆ
oh i should also max the voodoo thing on vman
yeah like 9 jade emporium upgrades before I get the lighthouse
Can somebody with 25k pong score in gaming tell me what their multiplier is
mb i meant i havent unlocked the rest of world 4 on them
Kind of irrelevant tbh, except eventually on BB but you'll just candy for Chows/Super chows anyway so it kinda doesn't matter if you've pushed every map on everyone yet
You're better off doing what you said, get Div and Lab stuff set, then if you need character levels for talent points to sample or what have you just push the furthest map in the furthest world you can for best XP gain
is there a limit of how many movement speed you can get?
because im droping a llllooootttttt of ms statut presently
Not a limit
Visual speed is limited but the bonus from movement speed is not capped
Thereโs a visual cap iirc
i wonder how fast is that visual limit my beast somehow have 250 ms now
I wanna meet the person who managed to farm enough of these to max this silly vial
At one point it was 350% MS but it was then adjusted lower but the amount was not said
||Is there something to find the health increase from bonejoepickles or am i mistaken?||
healt increase?
||I guess i can just ask, are they multiplicative with each other or additive?||
Oh right, sorry w6
2 dk

or swap a bb to dk
whats the priority for merits in w5?
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
ty!
gonna swap it, i wish i didnt fk up i wanted to spend my whaling for doot ๐คฃ
this wouldve been perfect with boat speed
why don't some of my obol upgrade don't get registered for slab? I slapped purple weapon obol but silver and gold didn't get counted
Obols can be weird, to ensure they get slabbed walk up to slab while they are in obol inventory
ok, thanks
How much damage would I need to kill Kattlekruk
Depends which character
Dk
):
Itโs close to this tho
man, so close
which mob is that
thanks
35m for es but dk got that statue so I'd say around 30m
For boats, should i aim for having the same amount of base speed and loot upgrades at once?
is it ok to invest all in speed and ignore "all plants give" ?
They only register if you have them upon changing map. So change map everytime you combine a new one. If you wanna be extra sure check the slab in between.
is the only way to level up artis through gems? to ancient and etc
Eww why would you pay for ancients.
to ancient yes but its completely random
Speed is usually preferred, late game you stop at like 5.5-6.5 all plants give and then pump speed
so you can get it through in game means then?
It's not the only way, just that you can only get up to ancient with gems not Eldritch. Just farm artifacts regularly via sailing
gemshop
If the gemshop allowed us to sov them, it'd be something. But it only allows you to ancient which is like 400x easier. (Numbers were drawn from my behind.)
is around 77% mk/dmg tier in w1 enough for speedrun in w1?
Does that count vman's kills? Cause his kills are 0'ed when you start a speedrun, which may lower your mk.
Any amount is enough to start speed running, build up points for future runs
ok
What should I be looking for in buying captains?
Loot mostly, speed isn't bad either
anyone got some big tips on voidwalker dmg up stuck on having vw not able to clear chaotic w5 boss so can't unlock gear everyone else can kill it
more stats, alchemy, cards, stamps
Simply just revisit the old mechanics while not ignoring W6 mechanics. No secret here.
Even things that do not directly give damage, such as Buildings levels, Stamp levels, help in a long run.
Do i bother crafting chizoar
Do i craft it or skip it
And go for troll armor instead
Void armor looks like a pain
I cant, im planning what to do after hittinf w5
My 1st plan is getting gear upgrades
you won't get troll gear as soon as you hit w5
unless you have 20K+ starfire bars handy
you can get pretty far with just amarok tbh
you can get dementia for comfort on whoever needs it
whats the painful bit
good excuse to get your samples up
Does King Doot make all minor bonuses active as well?
And 75k wispy lumber
gimmie ur ram
minor bonuses are always active iirc
wait nvm
their blessing is always active not the minor link bonus
And audio corda
then what is this?
Agony
@whole slate Unless my testing doesn't work for some reason, it looks like all minor bonuses are active too. Doot is broken
Idk how i get 75k audio corrs efficiently
yeah i thought u meant with no doot
do u multiill them?
im a f2p dooter i love the benefits
Dont think so
just spend like 5 minutes on ES at bopboxes lmao
I just wasn't sure if it was only major bonuses or minor as well
im pretty sure theyre still w4
800k dmg on es....
tbh reaching 50 on a es portal there is overkill
thats enough
also are you sure your in the right chat 
I am still in w4, im one map away from w4
Oh shit
But I unlinked from Nobisect and my damage didn't lower, so I assume that means minor link bonus is always active as well.
thought lava wanted me to give him bamboo logs not the bamboo itself
soon
after you kill the boss 
tm
wait so which world are you in then? w3 or w4
my vials a lot more pathetic 
he has ES (i think?)
W4
i mean its alright
mine doesnt even exist
i really wanna just print this
Im tempted to gamble on w6 packs
uh oh
do it
just park es there
my last 2 packs had no emperor in it
just keep pushing maps, you dont really need void armour just yet

Im going to wait for update an gem shop rotation to change
squid its called having cdr
And then maybe gamble
mines not that colorful
candying wood mush was pain
somehow there are 2 left after eclipse
did u splice them
maybe
thats why i didnt do it
definetely
ehh u have to candy it for 1b anyway
still doesnt make it any less painful ๐ฆ
wait what's the max chace for golden sprinkler?
no limit
this lands me at 101.25% am i just bad at math?
or does each purchase just add 15% after 30%
lava math is different
what would we do without lava 
We'd be playing a different game. Probably a less interesting and more p2w one.
all qol is p2w now 
By less interesting i mean less quirks.
this is working well for me. thanks
i dont even know at this point
I can't imagine why he would use it again since everyone would just unlock everything instantly
That was already the case in W5 though
yeah i dont mind the recipe drop system anyway
lava has no plans to continue using that system, maybe for the odd gimmick here and there but no plans as of yet
alright
1 in 200m is rough tho
yeah im only talking cause i got really lucky with a few
i got a few of the 1 in 100m ones with 5k kills per hour while i was pushing w5
wasted all my doot luck
gething the possibility to have card to red star whitout cash shop is a rift thing right?
because i finally unstuck from the 75 plunber so now its smooth sailing again for a while
a rat that the last rift bonus
yeah, its one of the last rift bonus unlocks, rift 46
well i killing for 5k skull not stamp is the next bonus i get
oh my getting 1m bloodbone kills is hard (for vman)
bloodbone kill?
Do you have dk and what dmg?
is this good for snapshot then active?
do you drop gift box in the rift?
Been looking for a new nugget upgrade for a couple months only to get a 1.5x upgrade fml
i do have a dk and he is on 1.17m dmg max
i was farming with my es tho on afk
cant do active anymore cus my game breaks whenever i try to active (it goes black and i cant see shit)
1.5x is good wdym.
Not since ive been trying to upgrade since like 3 weeks after equinox came out lol. Had a decent nugget at 6.3m so 9.3m doesn't amount to much it seems like.
They can if im right
ok because i dont think my breaker will have finish gething 5k skull before my daily reset
2500/5k and 1h13 before my reset
all stats doesnt get snapshotted cdr does tho
i know u can drop it in dungeon not too sure about rift
w5 boss beat in what, a minute? maybe 2 with these stats
now time to go back and catch-up 
uhhโฆdropping the spirit diamond on the portal but it wonโt open
you not droping it you tallk to the bird whit it in you inventory
ty, that did it
so just hp/mp cards than stats%
for snapshot
are u tryna sample or active?
whats the difference between card in card slot for snapshot between sampling and active?
so i followed the quest and got into the jade emporium, used up one of the sands of time speed ups
but now it says โlvl up pending, login to the playerโ but iโm playing as them?
ur on ur 1st char? maybe log out first if not
Do tranqi not work while playing actively? I can't explain why my dk has so low divinity lvl otherwise
it has to be on first? no wonder, i was using my 6th
u get div exp even if not afk in div altar with Tranqi Equiped
it says ur char name below them
yeahโฆ
Yeah but do I get xp if I'm actively crystal farming
Doing some testing shows that the answer is no. You do not get xp from tranqi when playing actively just like you don't get xp when sitting active in lab or altar
i just unlocked chem plants can anyone tell me what im meant to be doing with them ?
Is anyone willing to help me complete XxX Cattleprod XxX by ask other players whose names start with P or S to say '1 star, game sucks!' to collect more ratings on 6 characters.
Well youโll want to level it up a few tiers but ultimately clear everything use up all your sprinkler then your log until thereโs nothing but chem then click the chem
ok so gift box do drop in rift
Doot 4* done! Obol farming begin
can recipes still drop after you've got one ? I swear i've killed 150M sluggmas with 14x drop rate and I still haven't got the knuckles recipe
No once the recipe drops it is removed from the drop table. You have to remember KpK and multikill donโt affect these drops
A better gauge is how many royal suggma urns you have
!recipedrop
Recipe drops are a bit different from the other drops when you view them on your card. If the recipe is black, it means you have never picked up a recipe from that anvil tab. If your recipe is lit up it means you have found one from that anvil tab, lucky you! However, if you learn a recipe, that specific recipe will no longer be displayed at all on that monsters card.
Even if I managed to drop it and not learn it ? Sounds kinda weird ๐ค
if you dont learn the recipe you can get it again, but why bother
multikill doesn't work for recipes as well, so the 150m means next to nothing
Well cuz it is lit up on the card but I can't find it nowhere in my inventories so my guess is I dropped it and i'd like to upgrade my maestro's gear
I see
did you read the bot command i sent
I did yeah
If it's in the drop table you haven't gotten it yet
if its lit up it means you found a recipe from that tab (w5 for this case) any w5 recipe would light them all up
if it's in the drop table you haven't learned it yet
Riiight I didn't understand that part, thanks

Nice
and another one 
Nice 
What lvl is it
red just hit 26, green is 16
my red is 16 if i remember well
Is there a commonly agreed upon spot to place the shrines for world 6?
Mine are currently blocking the gardening plants which really stinks
I place it where I afk the most
I put mine on the hotel roofs
FINALLY beat wave 120 of W5 tower defense... or I will in like 20 minutes.
Genius. I didn't even know you could do this.
we're close
It does but you need at least lvl 2 div
You need lvl 2 div at least
I deleted a few
how the fuck how much resources are you feeding into it per hr
ppl have over 1k red salt rank lol
1k? doot really be puttin in some work for them
yeah
oh my god how are you printing 1.3m gmush cap /hr
my print
speedrun sampling
ohhhhh
about 2 month old i think
how high is your multikill lol
i dont really rmb but my vman was at 10T max dmg that time
now he prolly has over 100T
oh my 100T
Did you kill troll that run? Or just chiz
only 57 portal so i think i didnt reach troll
"only 38" to w6 chat with you
Just rank 15 here... Salt is so slow
122s per cycle, but should be able to get it under 2 min with a few stamp levels
i'm at 132, maybe I should work on that sigil 
mines only 22
I guess every little bit helps... 2 min flat with 3 stamp levels and a max book at family guy
alright folks, what am i getting today?
Bean
almost
molti, always molti
Next 50 will give a hat for sure 
surely 
Trust 
When should I start pushing w5 to w6 ?
like pushing through w5? i'd say asap once you have at least arctis unlocked
you'll need 30m-80m damage for the boss depending on what class you're on
can also candy it if you want
I'm gonna push on dk And I only have 5M dmg
Significantly less on ES
dk should be fine with 35m or so, just make sure you're working on alch/stamps as well as po box/star signs/cards
Pushing through w5 when it just came out was such a pain 
But you can candy w5 now 
i think i came back from a 2 year break right around when w5 was coming out or right after
so i had some time before i got to it 
๐
I didnโt, I came back 2 days after the release
And I was gone for 4 months? ๐ค
Something like that
that was me with w6, finally killed kruk, think i was around 10b damage 
finally leveled my bubo so his div and lab levels weren't higher than his combat 
โ ๏ธ
imagine doing things like alch or lab
10b pushing through w6 is painful ๐ญ
not me pushing at 4-8b
will 30m bb not work?
i mean, you can try, but i doubt you can, bb just doesn't have enough consistent aoe
You should have plenty of acc by the time you get to w5 boss
Level the first bubbles in alch
yeah ill try\
3 days of clamie farming... maybe ill go back to CCing for a few more days
or power statues
isn't that what you said a few days ago? 
i switch every few days
I'm finally organizing my priorities for my account, dr fix then troll armor, then upgrade tools
idk if w3 statue farming is the play right now man 
feel like i've been here a week and only 8.3k
lol i still gotta finish my 20k/100k quest on like 6 of my people
yeah, maybe i should work on that instead 
what is the general concensus on No More Prayers? good or nah?
terrible
bad
figured, the printing one is too good to pass up as is
consolation prize on the rare chance that you forget to set prayers
you'll eventually get to a spot where you won't need the printing one, but even then NMP is pretty bad
imagine
just becuase the bonuses are so small you might as well just keep specializing?
bumped it up to 20-25b or so, but just went through the first lock. have a lot of stuff to back track on, so it's not that bad. mostly just wanted to unlock w6 skills
20-25b isnโt bad, but when you donโt have multikill and the map portal is above 60m
Itโs pretty painful 
And, you need several characters on the same map to even progress
yeah, i mean you typically either want skilling or combat prayers on, so there's no reason to have "all" prayers. you also don't get the benefit of giant mob prayer with NMP
gonna have to throw multiple people into rift for 35
BB just ain't cutting it for another 5m afk
can u send me ur IE ? i think im at the same stage as u
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outside of big mob not spawning i dont see any dif betwen prayer or no prayer well except that mob have normal hp so they faster to kill
also you really need the big mob spawn for a short periode of time before the probability of them spawning is just painful
git gud?
do all top 1% of players have king doot?
top 1% tome? or some other metric
tome
Most likely but not required. Tome % is not accurate against the player base
hm
wait what? how is it not accurate to the player base?
It's accurate against it's numbers, which are set. and possibly reviewed. But if you notice any of them, within their own line they never move
ahh, gotcha
so like 3900 stamps is "50%" or whatever. Then that should change over time, and it doesn't
But also reflects against something lava posted "One of the first to enter 0.1%"
shoudln't be default there ALWAYS be someone in 0.1%?
Because I think they are set thresholds, not a direct reflection against the community. Maybe they were when he created the Tome
Holy shit whats the problem with Google?! At least were getting 2 updates in one...
remenber me why lava feel the need to introduce competition in a mostly solo game?
Perhaps its based on actual tome points, and nothing else.
Humans are competitive creatures even if there wasnt something built in there would be some external tool to compare stats
if it's only based on milestone progress then it's not an actual leaderboard, so there's no competition except with yourself
external leaderboards have been around for...a while, too, yeah?
if its only tome points, its no diffrent tham comparing DR or sheet dmg
well yeah, guild leaderboards and whatnot
humain are social creature competition become a thing only went humain didnt feel the need of survival instinc
You ever play Jackbox and got pissed off at your friends??
competition is social, requires a group or at least one other to play a game 9/10 times
i dont have friend and neever play jack box but i spend 10 year on a mmorpg gething scream by ....child ...to come pvp went they cash thousand of us $ in the cash shop each week while i never spend a dime in it
Isn't that why we all play idleon, because we don't have friends? ๐ฅบ
andd pvp alway result the same the winner brag and the looser accuse the winer of cheathing
Eh, I play a lot of competitive games, Overwatch 2, Rocket league, Etc... I'll gg when I lose but also a lil toxicity/salt can be in good fun sometimes lol
nan i play idleon because i wanted a mmorpg that will not contain a bunch of toxic people
I think it would be neat if he added some other type of interaction, besides dungeons which really isn't
there nothing wrong whit competition in game but not all game need competition having a ranking in idleon kinda ruin it for me
I turned my MMO competition into real life.... now I can chill watching my DK run around for hours ๐คฃ
A depressing amount of hours
but competition is useless since they introduce pay to win and cash shop
before went you pvp yoou work on you character for month level equipement tactic its all lost went you can reech the same by sliding your credit card in the b.. crack of the dev
what the point to stand at the top of ranking if you spend real money to achive it and never actually play the game
Well all of use don't have very many friends, Why play something like Idleon at all if theres no comparison? Its not like people who are doing better will set you back at all. And if you're the only one playing then whats the point at the end of the day
Ace is my competition
I enjoy seeing number go up
i thought you were ahead of me
well and quack, but that's because he's a traitor
game is made to escape reality to destresse if you adding competition in it you will gain stress
not if you win!!!!
but will you win?
All I do is win win win, no matter what what what
probability no and not agaisht cashoper
What if I just cashshop harder than them. I have always seen those games like that. The cash users have their own competition, and then everyone else can still enjoy the game on their own
Would need to see your account to assist
Do you have a public IE?
Wait
Way too many variables to that question
then you a pastiche champion sithing on a throne that you have no merit for
i should finish mine off 
doit you close already
Counter point.... if I have enough money to put into a game, to win others. Woudln't that also symbolize that I'm doing better in life that I can spend that money on a game and enjoy my throne?
use your books and sync up your miniboss kills. give me a minute and i'll look through more
What do you mean sync up?
if you seek a game throne and not irl throne then you not as sucesful as you think
get them on the same day, so you spend 1 day every 4 days killing minibosses
Ok
Minibosses respawn on this schedule 
I killed today the w5 and w4 minis but forgot the slush
time to go kill slush then 
Yeah
I seek the game of thrones
I saved 600 arcade balls and got one dementia bucket ๐ฎโ๐จ is this real life
rip
I would say that is the most balance account I have ever looked at
I don't look at many to be fair
your anvil points are neglected on a few characters.
why the glory of the pixel isnt a glory that is steady went you at the top the one that you need to fear is the people under you they will come for you throne until you tired and give up
if you cashop your throne you will be eternilly force to keep cashing to keep it
ok I lied, you aren't balanced your forge and anvil are heavily neglected ๐คฃ
R you talking about my acc?
Is 20b enough for vman to kill nkruk?
yes, sorry I don't use reply stuff often
its not a direct damage upgrade, but you will feel that when you start getting into late w4 early w5
You lost me a lil bit with this one, I just really like Game of Thrones lmao
if you want to have glory you need to do it irl not in the game,if you cash to get 1 rank in a game then you will have to add money to keep it ,because if you can cash other can cash its a whale competition and there no glory to that
I beg to differ. I love my throne built with money based on my life success ๐คฃ
the only winner in a whale competition is the game compagni
Honestly I think you just need more time. Why are you thinking you are short on damage?



