lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[outer thorn]

That's why I'm Brazilian, I'm fighting for my place in the sun

😦

[pliant ferry]

It's like speaking loud to a deaf person 🤣

[sharp vine]

It can still drop, that's good

[outer thorn]

I am trying

sorry

[sharp vine]

It takes people weeks to get that recipe Gabriel, how many kills do you have on Suggmas?

[pliant ferry]

Don't apologize. You speak english 10000x better than me speaking any other language

[outer thorn]

37.6 M

[sharp vine]

Yeah you're under the average I've seen from most people, myself included. What's your drop rate?

[outer thorn]

in only char

[sharp vine]

What's your DR?

[soft crescent]

It just droped for me today with 15k kills 😅

[outer thorn]

in death note is 320,003,946

[sharp vine]

what's your drop rarity?

[frigid swift]

someday ill get it. luckily im not too worried about it because i dont even have the resources to properly make them anyways

[pliant ferry]

Don't worry you get to do it again for W6!

[frigid swift]

oh joyyyyyy lol

[sharp vine]

But worse! It's 1/200mil

[olive drift]

There is also a 1/50 million

[outer thorn]

i droped but i miss clicked telekinetic storage 😦

[frigid swift]

yea i saw lol. make it so hard to catch up with these drop rates

[olive drift]

That's why we never use that skill

[outer thorn]

5,66 main char

no cards set

[outer thorn]

realy ? i dont have storage in quik ref

[sharp vine]

That's super low. I think it took me around 90mil kills non-stop on my ES or DK, forget who, and I had like 8.5DR

[olive drift]

Ram

[pliant ferry]

120m+ for me

[outer thorn]

how 😮

[sharp vine]

my man's over here telling him "just get an RNG companion effect, ez"

[frigid swift]

50/50 chance to get any pet you want.

[outer thorn]

i found last pet last day

😄

You can't be unlucky at everything

[sharp vine]

You have doot?

[outer thorn]

yes 😄

[sharp vine]

You aint allowed to complain anymore

[outer thorn]

all pets

[zinc bison]

Then you can quick ref storage

[frigid swift]

you have all pets but your using telekenitic storage?

[outer thorn]

I didn't have it before, I dropped the recipe last month

I asked for help in the bug group but they kept putting x

[zinc bison]

They were right

Telekinetic storage worked the way it was described.

[sharp vine]

But he was asking for help on whether or not he could still get the recipe

[outer thorn]

yes, all the items on the floor disappeared including the recipe, which never dropped again

😦

[zinc bison]

Which is not a bug

[sharp vine]

The dude doesn't speak English as a first language, and it's kind of apparent. Someone could've at least tried to offer him a worthwhile answer.

[outer thorn]

Thanks for your interest friend, I'll try to increase the drop chance

[frigid swift]

I like how gold hampters are so easy to farm but normal hampters everyone says sucks

[outer thorn]

Thank you for trying to help me, sorry about something, I won't give up

[frigid swift]

You can do it buddy!

[sharp vine]

yeah, pretty big difference in odds

[frigid swift]

yeh i spose most gold hampters come from crystals anyway. which are high odds. 1:529

most mobs they are like 1:40k

[whole vine]

is it worth it to get idle skilling trophy? Im debating on whether or not to hit the grind

[pliant ferry]

What is your sanity worth

[frigid swift]

↑ actually that.

Im so close but soooooo far lol

[strong nexus]

more task and merit shop more achivement great i was bore

[bright meteor]

I got the recipe but not the stuff

[strong nexus]

got my 20 green stack this morning and i make new glove for my vtrash and now im like unmotivated

[frigid swift]

vman is hard anyways lol

people who main vman are a whole different breed

[strong nexus]

no one main vman

[olive drift]

A whole breed of stupidity

[rapid shale]

people who main one character are a whole different breed

[bright meteor]

people who only Idle

[strong nexus]

i only main es the rest are farming mooney presently or sithing in lab

[pliant ferry]

I didn't like how overnight ES gives my pc a heart attack

and turning off drops just feels bad

[bright meteor]

Main Dk is farming w2 statues right now

[strong nexus]

im grinding w5 death note so beast ,breaker,divine farming there higuest w5 map es farming for her cheese storage chest vman sithing on the divinity altar because quest require level 25 and trying to raise rift bonus the rest are lab rat

[frigid swift]

i should work on death note eventually. but i feel like theres so much other stuff i can work on

[strong nexus]

my berseker killing mushroom for raising chow

[frigid swift]

i finished schow on gmush so atleast theres that

[devout ledge]

Hey, so I'm trying to push into w6 by beating kattle
, and Im struggling to up my numbers, I got suggested to unlock and push new alch bubbles, but the bubble chance is like 1% for more strength bubbles

[strong nexus]

i got 1m kill on gmush,frog,bean,now she killing mush on babayaga map

[devout ledge]

how would i even push far into alchemy? My bubo is only 190 and cant go infinite in bubo farming yet

[strong nexus]

if only the chow bonus double if you have 2 berseker my cooking would be so fast

[sharp vine]

then do somewhat less optimal bubo CC farming at Flombs. But also, what bubbles are you up to and what are you missing?

[swift harbor]

What pets do you have from W1 dogo

[sharp vine]

A lot of your damage right now will probably come from Meals and Sailing anyway and not alch, at least as far as big leaps go. And weapon increases. Are you using damage/stat cards?

[swift harbor]

Go for the library upgrade artifact and get a max one and put into ES

[strong nexus]

if i raise the penny of strenght bubble will the bonus apply to all my class or just my warrior?

[swift harbor]

For the pure damage output in single attacks

[strong nexus]

like my es have 770 strenght would it apply?

[devout ledge]

@swift harbor
I have all pets from W1 doggo, and this is my current setup on my dk for cards.

I'm trying to do DK kattle

[frigid swift]

you need a lot more dmg

[swift harbor]

Only warrior i think cause it is in all 3 main stat bubbles

[frigid swift]

do you have an IE?

[devout ledge]

https://orbychan.idleonefficiency.com

I'm just trying to plot out my next moves to push alch

[swift harbor]

Get better armor your armor is WAY under leveled for what your doing

When your stuck on most things the best thing to do is go back to basics

[sharp vine]

what's your library max talent level?

[devout ledge]

155 IIRC

i do have the p2w pet that further boosts talents by 28

so feastibly I think I can push 180 on bubo for respawns

[sharp vine]

book 'em

[strong nexus]

the idleon efficiency website need the pasword of steam or the password of my e-mail account

[devout ledge]

ooh, gotcha thanks

lemme start booking

[sharp vine]

And then like the other dude was saying, craft some better gear. You should at least be able to get up to the diabolic spear for warrs

Though honestly, if you went and Onyx statue'd your crit chance up that would also be a major benefit for your account overall. You also need the Mega Crit star talent at a WAY higher level than 8

[devout ledge]

i was just hoping to grab my chocolatey chip and get ready for dk farming before I start thinking about onyxing things

but i feel that

[rapid shale]

thats not how it works

[strong nexus]

then how does it work

[sharp vine]

Also your rings. Do some dungeons during happy hour to get your Emperor rings. In the meantime, craft something better (for damage)

[devout ledge]

haha i'm trying ;-;

but i'll see if I can sneak into some dungeons if people would grace me with invites

[sharp vine]

#party-finder-👪

[rapid shale]

It allows google to send protected data to the website, you dont give your password to it

[sharp vine]

Literally just go to party finder channel any time happy hour is up

[strong nexus]

my idleon account isnt made whit google e-mail

[sharp vine]

Oh speaking of happy hour

[rapid shale]

it works the same for steam, or whatever you used

[rapid shale]

yea im looking into it tthat right option is less safe

first two dont share youre account passwords though

[strong nexus]

ya its less safe and also what password they want me to put what e-mail they want me to put

[next temple]

i thnk i might have softlocked myself out of the 150 SB task for W5 bc I have the vman enhancmeent orb that auto-spends 25 points on a plunderous mob every time I hit 100

[frigid swift]

respec

or change your talent preset if you dont have it on your other one

[rapid shale]

honestly no clue on that. Seems like if you created your account on the web version

what do you normally play through? steam?

[strong nexus]

yes steam i dont have a cellphone

[rapid shale]

https://www.reddit.com/r/idleon/comments/12ccw2h/steam_email/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&utm_content=1&utm_term=15

this is the only thread I can find that might help

[strong nexus]

you know if you reset you talent you can get back your point all you need to do is to redo 1 speedrun and all your max portal will be count event if the new speedrun have lower portal

[rapid shale]

there should be an email associated with your account. if you dont remember it this is the only way to find it

[strong nexus]

ho well i dont think i need to take the risk im pretty efficien i think

there my cheesy storage chest ok what next on my list

[nova lynx]

Just broke into w5 and... divinity? Do I move all my lab tube buddies over to divinity now? lol
Looks like my accuracy is lacking so I won't really be progging anything in w5 soon, will prob leave my pusher farming some troll keys after I finish the intro w5 quests

[sharp vine]

Yeah slap everyone into Div for a few days

Need to unlock the god Arctis so you can re-connect to Lab from the Div altar. Level up to Tranqi if you can to get free levels without being on altar

[strong nexus]

should i set all my divinity of my lab rat whit artic?

[nova lynx]

I haven't looked up anything on Div yet so IDK who those are, but ok 🤓 I'll put everyone on div tomorrow after my shrines level up tomorrow from w4.
Should I put legit everybody on div? Right now I have 9 chars that are like this:
6 in tube
1x Maestro who is playing catch up to be r1 in all skills
1x pusher (blood berserker - don't question for now)
1x DK who has been mostly active afk until now, but recently had him pushing w4 a bit more since demon genie exp fell off

[devout ledge]

i just shoved all my characters immediately into div as soon as world 5 opened up

[sharp vine]

Could probably keep maestro skilling

[nova lynx]

Alright. He is just catching rn. His exp is abysmal and sorta depressing lol.

[frigid swift]

smh 700 balls only 1 dice and it was a 5

lets make something with such bad RNG a tome item why dont we

[bleak gazelle]

dang bruh

[frigid swift]

Ace do my samples for me

[bleak gazelle]

have you tried being the dice

no thanks

i resampled my once for this year

[strong nexus]

actually if i active artic i can use my lab rat for money farming

[next temple]

so once i get a purple skull on rift...i kill it, or i kill other things and hope it pops to lava?

[frigid swift]

If you are going for lava skull on rift you gotta skull stack. so for ex if it is a purple skull only dont kill it. kill other skulls until a 2nd skull pops up on that one. then you can kill it

and hope it transfers and upgrades.

[strong nexus]

idk the skull become lava pretty fasdt on my dk as for my es she meteor her way trout

[frigid swift]

atleast thats how i did it

[upbeat stratus]

Oh I actually got the one I was missing

[strong nexus]

i need a pop up remenber went my pet draw is ready i keep forgething

[spark knot]

Best way to farm strung tooth

[daring rapids]

IE and Toolbox

[spark knot]

Which difficulty ?

[strong nexus]

isnt using tool that is not in game conciderate rule #4 ?

[steep kiln]

Normal is best key efficiency, but chaotic is better for your sanity

[daring rapids]

doubt it, pretty sure its pinned here

[spark knot]

Best best key efficiency?

[daring rapids]

!ie

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger

[daring rapids]

!it

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[daring rapids]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ and the ultimate tool which I dont know the command for

[marsh crescent]

Okay just got to world 5, is it smart to just put everyone on the divinity for an hour to get a push for the first divinity

[next temple]

or a week

[marsh crescent]

is it that long :/

[bleak gazelle]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[rose yacht]

Thats only for stuffs that act on the game internally like macro etc. IE and IT is external.

[neat kiln]

I finally reached this place lol

[quasi galleon]

IE and IT are both permitted tools.

They just read your save data and give you a read out on various things about your account

[strong nexus]

ya no that wasnt what i was talking about i mean i feel like nothing reset on the same day and would be nice to have some proper tracking on went

[daring rapids]

Like idleon toolbox lol?

[nova lynx]

lol i just hit w5 and asked this question an hour ago... yeah the advice I got was to camp everyone there for a while

[bleak gazelle]

42 books

[daring rapids]

Imma get that soverign fury any minute now!

[bleak gazelle]

any day now

[daring rapids]

any year?

[bleak gazelle]

many moons

[daring rapids]

its easy its all the way upto .02% chance! its coming soon

[bold geyser]

It is unless you have doot

[daring rapids]

I mean i have doot and I still have people in lab lvling that and divinity up

[marsh crescent]

Okay so i dont attempt to push ANYTHING until after bear... than i can run bear on everyone so i can use labs? i wont get xp but i would get ALL the benefits of the connected nodes?

so than question what about my dailies would i get my archer out long enough to get critters etc etc

[bold geyser]

Yup your understanding is right. Unless you want to prioritize divinity for a long long time to get the one that gives your divinity XP from lab

[marsh crescent]

and i left my maestro out of divnity to catch up on core skilling

[bold geyser]

Just don't interrupt your divinity unless it's just after the hour has passed until your rate goes up

If it says 1 hr for XP/divinity then you cash out at 00:59:59 you won't get credit

[marsh crescent]

ohhh i understand so if im close to the hour just wait it out and get it after that

[daring rapids]

yeap

[marsh crescent]

so my account is temporary frozen for a week or so XD

ohhh no what will i do

[daring rapids]

Also throw that ES into skilling tree and lvl up those things that give xp and extra divinity

[nova lynx]

Wait so if I clock in at 00:59:59 to divinity and pull out at 1:00:01 i get credit?

[marsh crescent]

yea i believe they are

[bold geyser]

No the character has to be in for the full hour

[nova lynx]

riP

[daring rapids]

It only matters when you first start and only get 1xp/hr no modifiers

[marsh crescent]

if they are inactive and you open them up you wont get credit

[nova lynx]

I am new to w5 so I am 1xp/hr with no modifiers 😄

[bold geyser]

Once you start to rate up it's more forgiving

2/hr will tick at 30 minutes iirc

I got doot so I don't care. But that means leaving the game is sunk cost so I guess Lava has me hooked forever

[daring rapids]

Only until lvl 155 divinity and 210 lab 😛

[bold geyser]

[bleak gazelle]

man, imagine having doot, c ouldn't be me

[daring rapids]

I sold a kidney to get mine

Psh an hour 😛

[bold geyser]

What

[marsh crescent]

so before i do this i wanna make sure.

My ES is currently at 24 minutes inactive..i need to check their talents... if i go back on to my inactive ES it will proc the ) div xp etc and i would have to start over correct

not if i just dont leave the alter

[bold geyser]

You lose 24 minutes

[marsh crescent]

okay thats what i was wonder

[daring rapids]

yeah if you just started and have no modifiers you are likely only getting 1/hr

[marsh crescent]

i am only gettin 1 hr XD

is the xp shared like breeding is?

[daring rapids]

with ES abilities different prayers and the modifiers from gods

[nova lynx]

divinity is unique exp

[bold geyser]

No every character is individual exp

[nova lynx]

gaming and sailing is shared exp - you can check on the skill info page

[marsh crescent]

okay so divinity is based on the individual character

gotcha well im going to go watch tv than

[bold geyser]

15 hours day 1

Just go to bed and go to work. When you get home tomorrow you'll be level 2 on everyone

Then doot kicks in and you profit

[radiant onyx]

hey all, best way to farm hampters? I am using DK with as much drop rarity i can, (currently 12.22x) and multikill at ~500%

[daring rapids]

that early on throw everyone you can at it afk, and active the DK and pray for enough to craft whatever you need

[nova lynx]

what about the poor non-dooters?? 😭 idk what he even does but sounds like he saves your life

[radiant onyx]

ah ok. Oh which reminds me, i have almost everyone else on worship right now, just unlocked purrmep, but i have pet Doot. Do i need someone linked to Purrmep or does doot take care of that automagically?

[bold geyser]

You afk forever and choose whether or not you want to play certain characters. If you want to play, link it to the god that lets you count as though you're in lab then go play that character

[nova lynx]

oh boy

ok the div AFK grind will start tomorrow after my little bit of lab wrapup / shrine lvl

[icy pulsar]

i started it days ago and…

they’ve all hit 15+ at least

[bleak gazelle]

afaik still need someone linked to purr

[dim totem]

if i want to unlock high level mutations, do i just let these plants sit until i get one?

[thorn kindle]

😏

Just got anotherone >.<

[pale crag]

Imagine not having all w6 bubbles unlocked

[thorn kindle]

They are unlocked

I unlocked the world 7 ones

😉

[pale crag]

Before w6 release

[thorn kindle]

I only started playing bubo like 1 week ago haha so had to learn what cooking was

OP AF.

[pale crag]

Just jk

[ruby barn]

went from a x900 nugget to this :o

[orchid iris]

Did we get this new weekly challenge cheat sheet yet?

[junior arrow]

you mean the w2 weekly boss?

[orchid iris]

yeah, It looks like you're the man himself lmao

[junior arrow]

its in the same place as always, i just update the pin each week

[orchid iris]

I dont know where it is, last time somebody just linked it directly

[junior arrow]

the boss doesnt change for another 18 hours though

[orchid iris]

Oh i've been active bubo my IT showed weeklys ready

[junior arrow]

your weekly reset is not the same

w2 weekly boss and chips are on a seperate weekly timer shared by all players

[orchid iris]

Ahh I see, future ref would it be i tips n tricks?

[junior arrow]

yea mate

it should always be near the start since its one of the most common threads there

[sly cedar]

thanks for your work roronoa, i never post in that channel but i have been using your solved boss paths for a couple weeks now, its very helpful

[obtuse brook]

My 6 divinitynlab slaves are starting to unlock mantra, once i have unlocked omniphau (i currently am charging a 100%er) should i just spam the mantra style? My two ES both are lacking divinity levels, that would greatly help them out

[lapis elm]

The world of idleon would be a much better place if people searched tip and tricks and pins first

[neat kiln]

Any tips for w5 beginning btw?

Also omni i didn't saw your message as i wasn't scrolled down lol

[junior arrow]

why read when you can ask the same question for the hundredth time today

[sinful aurora]

Can you imagine how dead the discord would be if any specific question were only asked 10 times a day?

[steep flame]

Can someone do a TL;DR on the best sailing strat?

I have the first 12 islands unlocked, but I'm never sure where to send my captains. Sometimes I just do everyone on the lowest island with no artifact, sometimes I just split them based on the highest island they can hit in 2 hours, sometimes I just move half wherever I'm missing resources and the other ones I throw on random islands for no reason whatsoever.

I think I've heard people saying everyone should be on the same island, but which one is it?

Lowest with no artifacts, then lowest with no ancient and so on, or is there a way to calculate an "optimal" artifact farming spot.

Also, do I just "ignore" resources and get them when going for the artifacts, or should I focus resources first to upgrade the boats and only then start farming artifacts?

[robust vine]

Is x13.64 drop rate and 180 wormhole kills better than x16.16 drop rate and 147 wormhole kills i am trying to farm suggma recipe?

[kindred moss]

What we're missing is the wormhole level for each option. If it's the same for both, then your 16.16x dr should be better with the 147 kills.

[sinful aurora]

Thats a hard one. It must be very tight without doing the full maths. Im tempted to say go with the higher dr one.

Higher portal count has higher dr multi than lower ones so each extra numbers is better than the previous. But thats also a big chunk of dr that applies to all portal mobs AND regular mobs that constantly respawn.

Thats 18,4% more dr. Yeah thats def better than 20 extra portal kills.

[finite nimbus]

Found the eldritch versione of dreamcatcher but I still can only hold up to 19 chest? Is it normal? Since I already could do that whit the ancient version

[sinful aurora]

Dreamcatcher does nothing above ancient.

Hope it didnt cost you too much time.

[finite nimbus]

Maybe 1/2 days from normal to eldritch

Thx

[idle cosmos]

Is there somewhere I can find a general guide on Sampling, what character to use for what and whats the most important samples

[junior dune]

Imagine if lava at least told us when effects were capped...

[sinful aurora]

Well... isnt it more motivating to learn afterwards that you did it for nothing?

Genuine question, im not sure myself what the answer is.

[steep flame]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QSu7l7rOUBGue7NDXJFsEvo3n9BgXcnahuAPMFP9NRw/edit

Kinda old, but still ok

logs on bubo/es
Bugs on SB
Fish on BB
Ores on DK/BB

[idle cosmos]

@steep flame Thanks. Ill be reading through that.

[barren crater]

what does that supposed to mean?

i keep unlocking them with 1% - 5%

nvm i'm stupid

it's just the mesage pre-unlocking

[lapis kraken]

Can anyone tell me why my bubonic has so much more divinity exp. And what increases/effects divinity exp?

[idle cosmos]

How important is getting all my characters to atleast tranqui divinity level?

[steep flame]

Do you have doot?

[quartz crystal]

Does maestro talent affect w5 skills

[steep flame]

nope

only first 3 worlds

[idle cosmos]

No doot.

But I do have all gods

[sinful aurora]

Your es is using mantra. Ofc it's low.

This xp is copied to all characters though, so take that into consideration.

[obtuse brook]

Man, this 2-unlinks a week is tedious

[idle cosmos]

You change links?

[lapis kraken]

I thought styles affected exp gained not multiplier. Thanks for telling me

[heavy jackal]

Is this normal?

[sinful aurora]

You shouldnt complain. It used to be 1.

[obtuse brook]

Unlinking from gods is restricted to 2 per week in normal cases, and im currently working on overhauling my god linkage
This is taking long

[kindred dagger]

You unlink all of them at once. It only takes one unlink to switch all ten characters.

[obtuse brook]

For sure it was worse before, yes
But it still is tedious now

[sinful aurora]

Fair enough

[obtuse brook]

oh shit, thats how it works?

Damn i misunderstood that

[idle cosmos]

😄

[sinful aurora]

Oof

[obtuse brook]

I thought it was literaly 2-characters-may-unlink-per-week

That certanly changes things

[heavy jackal]

Is it normal not have the gloves?

[idle cosmos]

@heavy jackal unfortunately, yes.

[heavy jackal]

270 M in my ES with 12.45× droprate and 0 gloves

[kindred dagger]

Once you get back in that page, select everyone you want to change before you hit the button. Then go on each character and link them back to the god you want.

[idle cosmos]

Yeah i've seen some 3-4-5x drop rate here.

[obtuse brook]

Will do that

[kindred dagger]

Multikill doesn't affect the recipe drop, only true kills.

[idle cosmos]

I wish there was a way to tell True kills

[obtuse brook]

Atleast tomorrow is my weekly reset
Im still wishing it was possible to set your weekly reset...

[simple wadi]

Your royal suggma urns count is a better indicator. 1k urns = 50m kills.

[heavy jackal]

tks

[idle cosmos]

What about for World 6 Glove pattern? 😢

[simple wadi]

Which one?

[idle cosmos]

First one

Is it Marble?

[simple wadi]

I haven't even tried for the one from lanterns, haha.

Yeah, marble from the first W6 mob.

[idle cosmos]

I'm farming for W6 statues, so im not being super effective for the Pattern

But, im trying to get the Marble glove and Statues at the same time

Unfortunately there is really no way to track how many true kills you have on the Sprout Spirits

[simple wadi]

Yeah. Fortunately, I got it within two days of farming with four chrs.

[idle cosmos]

neat. as I said, i'm just doing Statues and the pattern at the same time so its less effective ofc, but my DK is smashing good

Already finished the Compost statue

[simple wadi]

Got it while active on my siege.

Nice. I haven't statue farmed... at all.

[idle cosmos]

14k Sneak statues

Soon

[simple wadi]

Not anywhere close.

[idle cosmos]

Its up to Focus anyway.

You havent focused them, you would probably farm them faster than me in the end if you just sat down for it.

[simple wadi]

Possibly. My account is horribly mismanaged, haha.

[idle cosmos]

Oh tell me about it. I was AFK for 6 months, nothing of value was gained

Some Atoms I guess, but thats it

[simple wadi]

I'm still working on getting 1b kills in W4. Takes me about five days per mob, and someone in this chat said it shouldn't take longer than a month to do the entirety of W1 - W5, which is not happening for me.

[idle cosmos]

Well, I guess its not a bad focus

My Deathnote is horrible

[steep flame]

Same. After getting to w5 I was just pushing on 1 guy and everyone else was stuck in lab mostly

Same goes for w6

I just went back to w1 to get full lava on everyone

[idle cosmos]

My BM is still stuck in the Lab

When (If) I get Doot ill be able to let him out

[steep flame]

only 3 exceptions are bb cooking, es doing div for pig quest and vman skilling

[simple wadi]

I just put my vman in lab so I could focus on getting the skydoggie portal open on my lab rat bubo.

[idle cosmos]

BB is doing Cooking, ES is ... pushing? Not sure you can even call it that since he's not even MKing for the Portal and my boi VMan is working on outrunning my Catcher

Its just a mess

[steep flame]

people have mk while pushing?

I defo never did

[idle cosmos]

[simple wadi]

All my chrs are at W4 donut except my two bubos at skydoggies. Currently active on one now.

[idle cosmos]

I had MK up to Lanterns

W4 Donut?

[simple wadi]

Deathnote

[idle cosmos]

Ah, ofcourse.

[simple wadi]

Getting those kills.

[tidal ice]

kinda trolling if you dont have mk while pushing w6 considering the portal requirements in later maps

[idle cosmos]

You said that earlier.

Yeah for sure @tidal ice I think to get to Mama Trolls it took my Siege a week maybe? probably more ?

[steep flame]

took me 2-3 weeks to get to leeks

from trolls

[idle cosmos]

Yeah i'm not gonna bother to be honest, Mama Trolls is gonna take my Siege about 2.5 years

[tidal ice]

id say getting up to the resource spots except for effervescent logs is a good call to push

[idle cosmos]

xd

[simple wadi]

Shouldn't take my bubos long to open the skydoggie portal. I'm getting abour 2m portal kills an hour, so about 35-ish hours active.

[tidal ice]

any more and you should really focus on doing other things first

[simple wadi]

Active on siege ended up making him open portals faster than all my other chrs.

[idle cosmos]

Maybe I should do that.

Yeah well, Siege feels so ass to me, but I understand using him to push.

Cannon Ball being slower than GOD just makes it feel so bad.

[tidal ice]

you need 8 characters for the portal and if you have to do that actively 8 times youre gonna spend a lot of time doing suboptimal things

[simple wadi]

My reason for using siege active, haha.

[idle cosmos]

Oh goddamn im not gonna push Effervescent right now I think.

Time to move my accounts back to where they can get some real work done, and not just tickling a portal

PROBABLY let my SB get to Sussy Gene

Those are some delicious stamp quests.

[tidal ice]

you can just keep a few summoning matches for those quests

[steep flame]

That's assuming you can actually do the quests

[heavy jackal]

They also increase the Droprate per Plundeous Killed

[idle cosmos]

Well, yeah, assuming I can do the quests.

Cant even spawn Regalis yet, so, yeah.

[steep flame]

I'm 1-2 days off from purple I think

But I can't for the life of me get the 8 vrumbis from one card

[idle cosmos]

I just hit Blue yesterday I think

Might have been 2 days ago, whatever really.

[steep flame]

blue fights are also insanely hard right as you unlock them

Managed to do 2 of them yesterday though

[idle cosmos]

Yeah, 4-5 times as hard as the first Yellow

I do get quite a lot of Green, white and Yellow Essence per day though, so I think ill be able to do some stuff soon.

unlocking purple just depends on how i invest points right now really.

[steep flame]

Yep

Just make sure you keep some of the earlier fights unfinished

otherwise you'll have problems with the quest

[halcyon shoal]

Yeah I saw the stats for blue matches at first unlock and was like "ummm NOPE" 😅

[steep flame]

The stats are not even the "big" problem

But enemies spawn constantly

So unless your spike damage can kill them in 2-3 hits tops, you'll have a problem

[halcyon shoal]

I got my first blue match done the other day myself, but that's all I can manage rn 😕

[idle cosmos]

I'm just gonna not try for a bit

And save up points

[simple wadi]

I'm on the third quest and not come close to any of these, haha.

Not sure how to even make a match last five minutes considering where I'm at in summoning.

[halcyon shoal]

I heard the 2500 mana one can be problematic if you don't save some earlier matches

[simple wadi]

I'm a guy. Lava shouldn't expect me to last five minutes.

[simple wadi]

True. I happened to be ignoring summoning when I decided to do the quests, so I had some easy matches saved up. Not anymore, haha.

[idle cosmos]

I still have early Green and Yellow fights. Well. I say Early, we'll see how rough it is

[halcyon shoal]

I may have completed some easier ones on accident that should have saved for the stalling ones 😅

[halcyon shoal]

Oh jeez your in a very rough spot...

[simple wadi]

Yeahhhh kinda hoping the first red one will be relatively easy.

[halcyon shoal]

How'd you manage to get that bunch of vrumbi on 1 card thing done? Just get a rng with a lot on 1 card or do multi summons per card count for it?

[gentle furnace]

crystal cards spawn 4 per card

[simple wadi]

Eventually Lava will have to change the quest or summoning, because it's possible to hard lock yourself out of the quest by beating all summoning matches. But then again, it took him almost two years to un-hard lock that W2 achievement to run from town to boss in 2 minutes.

[gentle furnace]

so you want a crystal card with 2 stack

[halcyon shoal]

Oh okay maybe I havent gotten that unlocked yet or just haven't had the rng shine on me 🤔

[gentle furnace]

blue essence

[halcyon shoal]

I heard there's some like endless mode in summoning, but is that a thing that's available rn or just something he's planning on adding? Some quests probably still couldn't be completed in something like that though unless idk how it really works 🤷‍♀️

[simple wadi]

If there is, I haven't unlocked it yet.

[halcyon shoal]

Ah that 1, I heard from some others here that you want to keep that at level 1, but idk why 😕

[simple wadi]

Probably because they know I maxed it. Just another way I messed up my account, haha.

Also likely the mana cost, especially with regalis slimes. They can cost upwards of 40+ mana with the jeweled variant, and that can screw your flow up.

[quiet pewter]

its bad early on because you get less clicks to do damage with. its super bad late on when the tatic becomes rushing everyone bottom lane and hoping

[halcyon shoal]

Don't think I've reached that far in summoning, but I've heard from others that's like the "preferred" strategy though it seems rather silly 🤔

[quiet pewter]

everythings silly till it works

ive compeleted grey and yellow

your options are: 1) get enough hp to be able to tank a hit - which is impossible. or 2) rush bot lane and hope

[simple wadi]

It works every time about 5% of the time.

[halcyon shoal]

So you just burn up lives spam bottom lane until computer doesn't block you down there? 😅

[quiet pewter]

once your at a stage when its a 0% chance to win by other tatics, yes

[simple wadi]

You can, hopefully, get enough going down there to push any NPCs back behind their line.

Really depends on RNGesus on how many NPCs the game puts in the bottom lane. If it starts with three or four in the bottom lane, you're not going to win.

[halcyon shoal]

Maybe that's what I've been having happen, but probably a good thing so I don't push too far and cannot complete sussy quests 😅

[quiet pewter]

ah yeah do the quests early on, you can lock yourself out of them later

[junior dune]

This sample wasn't even that old...

Things are going great right now

The x7 cooking speed from farming and a few hundred ladels probably helped

[blissful hound]

what ways are there to get trimmed construction slots

[steep flame]

atoms

and lab

sapphire rhinestone

[gaunt nymph]

all blue gems

so you get 2 slots

[blissful hound]

okay thank you

[steep flame]

1 from atom, 1 from sap rhinestone, 1 from all sapphire

[bleak turret]

mabby stupid question, but with sailing what is the best skills (speed, artifact chance, cloud, loot) to focus on with the captains ?

[pliant ferry]

On low tier, speed is great because you dont have enough stats elsewhere to hit minimum travel times. Once you get speed in other locations and you start swapping to tier 2 and tier 3 captains, I think having cloud captains and loot captains be seperate is important. If you have 20 great cloud captains you have access to a bunch of island but can't loot them

If you use toolbox, it has the option to prompt you when it thinks you have a better captain available as well

[bleak turret]

tnks for the awnser ^^

[pliant ferry]

Just my opinion!!! I'm sure there is a guide somewhere proving me wrong but I felt like I progressed just fine doing that method. It wasn't until W6 stuff that I felt a wall

And once I discovered all islands, I fired all of my cloud captains and replaced them with loot/artifact

[bleak turret]

yes i got that feeling rn, with finding artifacts its slowing down and feels like im lacking behind on everything Xd

[pliant ferry]

Rule #1 of idleon, accept that everything is neglected

[bleak turret]

true lmao

[pliant ferry]

Another thing that might help is the sailing talent to upgrade boxes is kind of a noob trap if you don't know how it works fully. I was told the captains loose a good bit of progress "waiting" at the island if you have that talent. So could be worth looking into what island you have them going to based on how often you can check chests. Much like trapping

[bleak turret]

wiat the tallend "unending loot search" is good or is it bad ? 😮

got mine now on 200

[pliant ferry]

So if there is no room and the talent "activates" they don't just try and leave. They sit and wait.

I don't know how much time, but they lose travel time because waiting instead of just going back to the island to get another box

[bleak turret]

owww i tought that they go to the island and if they find better loot they replays the chest

[pliant ferry]

So I'm told.... I have not scienced that myself. I have 2 hr travel to most islands and cap out on chests all the time. I'd rather less chests and a higher chance at a rare chest

It does, but there is a delay. At what point is that delay worth getting a better chest. Think of like gaming right? Evolution you don't try to get a 5-10% chance? You pop that at 1% every time you can

Because 100 attempts at 1% is better than 10 attempts at 5%

[steep flame]

It's good if you always forget to check your chests xD

[pliant ferry]

^^^^^^^^^^

[steep flame]

But if you claim like 5 times a day, you shouldn't really use it

On a side note, always try to claim if you skip sailing time with doot

[pliant ferry]

Because technically you shouldn't be sending your captains to 20 hr trips anyway

[steep flame]

No matter what character you're on

[pliant ferry]

Doot makes sailing laughable

[bleak turret]

cries in no doot

[pliant ferry]

Thats why I don't know how that tallent works. Because I get random 20 hr progress and I HAVE to have that talent on

[steep flame]

^

[steep flame]

Just swap to that god (and waste whatever better god you were linked to)

[bleak turret]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-tears-crying-too-much-pain-gif-15936129

[steep flame]

I mean, doot's only 200$

Worst case

[pliant ferry]

Same with my 5 thousand div pearls

[steep flame]

I hate the pearls 😦

[pliant ferry]

What skills give them? who knows, who cares lol

log on.... get 10 pearls. profit

[steep flame]

They all drop pearls

But you can't really use them on anything

They're good for early rift, but that's about it

[pliant ferry]

It was great at first. now I'm 50+ on all and I'm working on greenstacking them 🤣

[steep flame]

And cooking!

[bleak turret]

cries in poor student

[zinc torrent]

is doot $200 on avrage or closer to $500? ive heard a few answers

[steep flame]

200 is max

Or am I dumb?

[zinc torrent]

im getting therr then

[pliant ferry]

I think max is 500

[zinc torrent]

womp womp

[steep flame]

Before pity it was full RNG

Some people wasted some cash on 'im

[zinc torrent]

oh theres a pity

nice

[steep flame]

yeah, 201 pulls

So maybe 500$, true. Not sure hm a try costs

[bleak turret]

there always pitty on those lost souls

[zinc torrent]

the amount of time im gonna have to wait for the damn animation…

[steep flame]

But you also get some green gems back from the other pets you kill

[pliant ferry]

But you get more value, its some weird math that people have already done

[zinc torrent]

you can kill extras for extra greenms

[pliant ferry]

I got doot at 60/200

[steep flame]

Save for food, it's more important xD

I had to do like 100

[pliant ferry]

I'm still not even at 100, becuase I forget to do my free one often now that I have all pets 🤣

[bleak turret]

i will canabalize other students

[steep flame]

I gave up and bought him before getting to w5

[zinc torrent]

whats the point of doing them

[pliant ferry]

If I get a free doot

[steep flame]

I also paid way more for IdleOn than I'd want to admit tbh

But I also play it way more than anything else, so it's ok

[pliant ferry]

when trading becomes a thing, I get my money back 🤣

[zinc torrent]

oh if thats gonna be a thing sounds about rigjt

[steep flame]

when or if?

[pliant ferry]

Well hopefully some kind of trading is a thing. perfect world I have a full set of untradables for me. and then I trade off any that I gambled. I still have a few extra green gems that I'm hoarding incase new pets get added

[sly cedar]

if

oh god i hope new pets dont get added

[steep flame]

Tbh, I wouldn't mind new pets

[sly cedar]

i will quit if that happens probably

[pliant ferry]

I would like QOL pets

[steep flame]

^

Doesn't have to be doot level broken

[pliant ferry]

no more doot level. Sheep was amazing. Maybe a pet that allows full set swaps? Like cards and gear and EVERYTHING. so sampling is easier?

[bleak turret]

i will quit again if that happens -3-

[pliant ferry]

and I can go from drop rate, to high dmg with the click of a button

A pet that doubles obol storage? 😁

[steep flame]

some auto-buying from shops pet

[sly cedar]

this should just be a feature without the gacha

[pliant ferry]

yeah.... a bunch of stuff that can be done that doesnt' royally break the game like Doot. There are several mechanics that I don't know exist because of it

[steep flame]

divinity is a bad skill and doot makes it ok

[pliant ferry]

Sure but like sheep is "gacha" but how many people have it that are free users? 99%+

Agreed, he just breaks everything else in the process.

[steep flame]

Yep, I'm just saying that doot isn't really the problem, it's the whole skill that's the underlying problem

[pliant ferry]

fair

[steep flame]

Ram for alch is exactly the same. But you don't hear anyone complaining they don't have ram

It's nice to have all bubbles, but not a must

Divinity without doot is a HUGE pain

[pliant ferry]

sheep 😉 ram is quick storage access?

[bleak turret]

sheepy is alchemy i think

[steep flame]

One of the 2

[sly cedar]

yeah ram is storage

[lethal aspen]

imagine if you could only swap bubbles once a week

[pliant ferry]

hahaha yeah never thought of that. It's not a Doot problem, its a divinity problem

[sly cedar]

that is honestly probably the biggest game changer of a pet ive gotten, in the way that affects my playstyle

[bleak turret]

and would be rng

[steep flame]

But yeah, ram is also a good example. Storage everywhere is good, but you can play without it

[sly cedar]

Doot just makes divinity irrelevant

[steep flame]

Especially with the star talent

[lethal aspen]

thats a separate issue

[steep flame]

It's not the same, but it kinda almost works

[sly cedar]

its just something that gives you a ton of bonuses if you have doot

[lethal aspen]

imagine if divinity actually needed to be levelled like lab for chips

[steep flame]

^

If you didn't have all bonuses

It'd be ok

[bleak turret]

hmmmmmmmmm chips 😋

[pliant ferry]

Bubbles don't overlap uses for the most part. They have 3 that you need for each goal. Sheep is a big QOL of not having to swap. Like cards that turned passive with Rift. you don't GAIN much if anything at all

[lethal aspen]

put it this way, the game was balanced around div for like half a year

then doot came out the window

[pliant ferry]

Divinity bonuses all overlap and benefit pretty much every load out. Skilling, afk, active, DR

So you are gaining so much power out the gate

[steep flame]

Tbf, you're not getting any minor bonus until you start upgrading them

[lethal aspen]

If doot was only the minor bonuses, i dont think the game would've been broken

[steep flame]

Not sure if they work or not at level 0

[pliant ferry]

I like Kanna's idea

I still don't have half of them unlocked.... because I don't have to 🤣

[steep flame]

Do you have 1 or 2 links per character?

It was 2, right?

or just ES is 2?

[lethal aspen]

just ES

[pliant ferry]

1 link per, and can only change it once a week

[lethal aspen]

if it was 2 at least we wouldnt complain that hard

[steep flame]

fair

[lethal aspen]

1 link per 10/20 div levels

[steep flame]

So 4-6 chars are stuck with lab god anyway. And only the other ones can really do something

[pliant ferry]

Perma lab..... that's the biggets one I think. I have 10 active/afk chars farming at all times. Freemee players have 5-8 in labs to have anywhere close to the same power, and then I still get all the god bonuses

[lethal aspen]

perma elephant is big too

[pliant ferry]

yeahhhhhhhhhhh just busted lmfao

[sly cedar]

trying to roll for doot is making me broke af

and i still dont have it

[steep flame]

I like Kattlekruk most . Would do it just for the memes

[pliant ferry]

Just ration, eat 50% less for a month. now you have 50% of your grocery bill for doot rolls

[bleak turret]

kattlekruk would be best waifu 🙂

[sly cedar]

thats like legit what im doing

[lethal aspen]

thats bagur

[sly cedar]

its why im really not happy about pets and dont want any more added

[lethal aspen]

i wonder when lava will finally add them

[sly cedar]

probably with w7

[lethal aspen]

if kruk had doot effect

imagine

[steep flame]

Y'all use just arctis and harriep, right?

Mostly

[lethal aspen]

arctis and nobi for me

[sly cedar]

rn im using a mix of the first 3 gods

[lethal aspen]

i'd replace arctis with harriep if i was atom printing insted

since lab has the 2x print node

[sly cedar]

at what point is it worth starting to make atoms to get some of the cheaper atom bonuses?

[lethal aspen]

no clue, what your oak/copper prints?

[pliant ferry]

I started doing it once I had my first 500k print

[sly cedar]

im like, at the point where i have 5 or 6 greenstacks and im about to unlock atom collider

[pliant ferry]

and kept my threshold low, since having 1 more level of a vial was kinda pointless at the time

Keep in the mind the first bonuses are pretty lack luster if you don't have materials.

I pushed for the 3rd and 4th upgrade and left the first 2 alone

[steep flame]

Yeah, I kept it low for a short time too, but in max 2 weeks you can move it to max tbh

[sly cedar]

oak 175k but that will take a big jump next time i sample, i just got skill mastery

[steep flame]

unlocking first 2 is fine, but there's no point in upgrading them for a while

4th upgrade started being useful only recently as well

NBLB boost (3th) is one of the best upgrades in game

[pliant ferry]

freeeeeeeeeeee upgrades

[steep flame]

Can't wait to actually unlock this

[lethal aspen]

soontm

[steep flame]

Should be like 3-4 days tops

I'll resample today on ES

[lethal aspen]

should be a lot less with vman printer no

idk what the 8d there is

[steep flame]

Went from 15m to 55m on bubo

8d is time with current printer setup

[pale crag]

That's some gain

[steep flame]

Nah, it's slacking

Haven't resampled in a month I think

[sly cedar]

i just got skill mastery and vman yesterday

so i been skilling like crazy today

[pliant ferry]

skill mastery is just a big of an upgrade as doot

[sly cedar]

in a day or 2 ill have the levels to put all my chars in all void tools. though i wont have enough salt to make em all

[steep flame]

talking about slacking

[sly cedar]

wouldnt take you long at all to get that 5% skill eff bump from fishing

[steep flame]

I could do it rn

With pearls

[pliant ferry]

use like 4 candies lol

[steep flame]

cooking too

[sly cedar]

you only need 9 lvls in cooking too

yeah

[steep flame]

Idk on which char and I'm too lazy to check now. Might do it after work

[teal inlet]

can rift 2 be done on afk

[sly cedar]

i should jump on my desktop and get a decent score in that trapping game

gives quite a lot of bonuses

[steep flame]

nope

[pliant ferry]

I found it easier on phone

[sly cedar]

i cant do it very well on my laptop with a trackpad, which is how i usually play

[sly cedar]

good idea actually, would be easy af on phone

[pliant ferry]

oh yeah. the touch screen allowed me a huge jump. Tablet maybe even better with slightly bigger screen

[teal inlet]

ah for god sake then my game self destruct when on active (goes black and nothing works)

[lethal aspen]

Fishing is super easy with islands in w2

[pale crag]

Bruhh

[sly cedar]

yeah i dont have that island yet

im wondering whether to get rando island or fishing island next. i have all but those 2 and the last timekill one

[steep flame]

probably fishing tbh

depends how far you are from w6

And if you wanna rush to w6 or not

[lethal aspen]

fishing first

rando takes bottles to upgrade so it won't be that useful

[steep flame]

^

[sly cedar]

yeah ok fishing seems good

[lethal aspen]

especially now that w6 is out now

[sly cedar]

with how much of an upgrade equinox was to fishing xp, im pretty tempted for that one

[lethal aspen]

no reason not to go fishing island 2nd after trash tbh

[pale crag]

Fishing xp is insane on the island

[lethal aspen]

yeah imagine pre-w4* days

[sly cedar]

ehh its good to start collecting glimmers early too tbh

[lethal aspen]

we didn't even have the mid w2 fish zone yet

[pale crag]

I am a w5 guy

[short sparrow]

Today I'm going for something different, plunderous farming

[fiery granite]

Got king doot from free summon just 2 days after getting to w5 !

What should be my plan now that I have it ? I was unlocking divnity

[chrome kernel]

just hit T damage woo

[bright meteor]

I'm 1/5 there

[stiff oasis]

any tips for world 5 worship to 50 waves?

[floral torrent]

.1% to 10T 🗣️🔥🔥

[reef solar]

why do i get 0% bonus

ah it just wasn't updated

now it works

[echo crag]

just fyi all artifact need you to reload the w5 town map for them to show the proper buff when you get them initially

[reef solar]

i just understood what i did wrong, there is a "cloud 1" which i didn't saw lol

[sly cedar]

lol

[reef solar]

i thought cloud 2 unlocks island 2

and since island 1 is already there, cloud 2 is the next one

[sly cedar]

yeah i can see how that makes sense

which is better to active overnight to try for lab rings? ES or DK?

[rapid shale]

ES, but I’d be surprised if you don’t get one using either class over night

[sly cedar]

yeah im hoping for multiple

wanna work towards making a couple souped rings so i can get 3x exp on my bubo when hes in lab

[echo crag]

es should give you a bunch if you worked on your dr a bit

[sly cedar]

dr is still pretty bad

about 6x i think

[strong nexus]

nametag give dr yeah

[sly cedar]

i wonder, if you open 1000 presents do you get 2?

or only 1 for 500?

[strong nexus]

i dont think it reset

[sly cedar]

damn

[strong nexus]

still a pretty nice nametag

[sly cedar]

oh for sure

thats why i was hoping maybe you can get 2 of them lol

[pale crag]

Nopw

[sly cedar]

i upgraded a skull on my BM today and lost about 700 charge 😢

didnt realise you actually lose the charge if you unequip your skull

[pale crag]

Don't worry 700 is not much

[strong nexus]

dont worry biguer skull mean charge gain faster

[sly cedar]

well its a week of charge for me on that char

its just annoying because thats the char i do my TD on and ill soon reach a point where i can do wayyyy more waves and will need to redo all totems, so wouldve been nice to have that charge on that char specifically

[fiery granite]

which char is best to push w5 to w6 with ?

I pushed w4 to w5 with dk

[zinc bison]

Bubonic conjuror or divine knight

I preferred bubo for alchemy until I started sigils

[strong nexus]

most of my character have the slush skul excep my es

[gentle furnace]

Well that's very bad

[pale crag]

Yaa slush skull is bad

[strong nexus]

probably i just have to much to do to pay real attention

[pale crag]

That's gonna change soon

[gentle furnace]

Slush skull is at the same tier as poopy tools

Maybe even worse

[strong nexus]

i not gaining that bad on soul for now

[gentle furnace]

You want more charge rate so swap to any skull that has more charge rate than slush skull

[short sparrow]

Keep slush skull though you need it for crafting

[bright meteor]

Time to redo TD max

[lone marten]

Anyone can guide me on w5, im new :3

[strong nexus]

ho well i have enought resource to make 4 prickle skull and 5 ceramic so that shoulkd be better

and then i realise that none of my character have the td level to equip

[gentle furnace]

Not even lv35?

[strong nexus]

my es is level 80

[pale crag]

You have balloons?

[strong nexus]

i can ballon my way truth?

[pale crag]

Just summon w1 td and spam balloons

[gentle furnace]

Others all below 30?

[strong nexus]

beast is 40

im checking the other

[gentle furnace]

Do you not use charge on others?

Siphoning all the way from the start?

[strong nexus]

not from the start but i became lazy of switching character for that

[somber sundial]

is that good?

[strong nexus]

ok well 3 can use the prickle the 7 other can use the ceramic

[dire mirage]

Just hit w5 do I throw all my characters into divinity and kinda ignore everything else for awhile?

[gentle furnace]

yup

[frigid swift]

I'm tired of this grandpa!

[echo crag]

na you need moar

[dense ginkgo]

how much damage for kattlekruk?

[frigid swift]

more

[strong nexus]

you cant use ballon or candy to do worshiping kinda suck

[echo crag]

doesnt candy increase your charge tho, i dont remember

[strong nexus]

kill augment charge on es

[clever maple]

any HH gamer ?

[wide plover]

Someone mentioned that you can "force" a Molten Core Knuckler-recipe drop by having enough AFK time, and that there was a tool to calculate it. Does someone have the link for that?

Im in the billion in death note and still no drop

[clever maple]

!it

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[wide plover]

ah guaranteed drop calculator!

[clever maple]

yep

[clever maple]

so no dungeon gamer ?

[wide plover]

230h x.x

[clever maple]

did u divide the kill per hour by 2 or 4 if you have lab and/or divinity ?

[wide plover]

no.. i took the one in afk info

so youre saying its even longer?

[clever maple]

ofc

mine was 30d of non-stop afk with 18 dr

[gentle path]

So I just got god5 unlocked. If say I link him to my bb and then go farm zow/chow on him will he still get div/lab XP?

[wide plover]

remember how much kph u had?

[clever maple]

about 120000 kill per hour (after dividing by 4)

[wide plover]

my afk info says 1,218,000 kph, 20,2 dr and 5281 multikill bonus, and if i divide the kph by 4, i basically land on 37 days of afk..

[clever maple]

nice

[granite grove]

just get multiple char to afk, at least thats how i get w6 glove recipes (1 in 50m and 300m) with a week or so

while 1 is reserved for active, and few in lab

guarantee in a single afk not necessarily needed here

[strong nexus]

does having the artic divinity actif count for the lab afk achivement?

[clever maple]

arctic "the character is active* to the lab mainframe" so no

[sly cedar]

if i get a tier 5 recipe before i have tier 5 anvil open, can i use it and it'll be waiting for me when i open t5 anvil?

[bleak gazelle]

yes

[bright meteor]

w2 td still on wave 140

[fiery agate]

are the upgrade stone from kattlekruk good or not worth it?

[clever maple]

w6 stone are better

from shop*

[fiery agate]

aight thx

[echo gulch]

Should i keep my 9th character a beginner ?

I dont think 2 sb are good

[frigid swift]

2 SB is great. you could also do 2BB 1SB if you wanted to go that route.

[clever maple]

this is the suggested class set up

[echo gulch]

Ah

[short sparrow]

It's time to put points into my sb dr talent

I never focused it before but now it is necessary

[clever maple]

how many plunder did you kill ?

[frigid swift]

one trillion

[short sparrow]

I'm at like 1k, I'm going to be farming them for a while

[clever maple]

only ?

last 3 merit to complete w4 merit shop

[bright meteor]

still grinding w2 statues 💀

like half way there

[clever maple]

still grinding eggs 💀

[bright meteor]

w2 statues is so boring I want to go forward lol

[clever maple]

just do like me

skip w2 statue 🧠

[bright meteor]

no

I skipped things in the game that's why I'm still in w5 chat

[junior dune]

The catching one is quite quick and good. Do that one at least

Class xp one took a lot longer

[bright meteor]

I'm done with that one

26k

[junior dune]

At least I got the 10k golden meat pies at the same time

[bitter pasture]

whats the currently best gear available? and how does the gear progression look like after chizoar?

[junior dune]

Troll armor path goes to the best equipment

[bitter pasture]

which is?

w6 armor or something?

[clever maple]

w4 merit shop

[bitter pasture]

i am aware just meant to clarify the best future equipment part

[junior dune]

Ye, don't remember the name. I'm not close to there yet

[echo crag]

godshard

[bitter pasture]

alright thanks

[pliant ferry]

Not sure if anyone replied to this yet.... but you can use balloons and candy and pearls for worshipping

[echo gulch]

In equinox valley there is a dream in which we have to reach wave 50 on first 6 td worship summons does this mean i should reach wave 50 by summoning from one summon from same td 6 times consecutively

[short sparrow]

No

[clever maple]

first 6 td ? same td 6 times ?

[short sparrow]

It's the first 6 different td

There's 2 in w1 and 1 each in w2-w5

[clever maple]

btw you need to reach and beat wave 50 (aka reach wave 51)

[solar seal]

have fun getting citric to 50. it requires 250 charge so i hope you've been diligently leveling all your chars worship and skulls

[frigid swift]

Citric 50 is a slight challenge. it really depends on all your other buffs though. Between starting points and PE/kraken level

luckily the first few waves hjave such low hp you almost dont need a tower.

[gleaming osprey]

How to increase hit chance

[clever maple]

hit chance ?

[gleaming osprey]

Yea

[clever maple]

hit chance or crit chance ?

[gleaming osprey]

No, i keep missing my shots when im fighting monsters and i want to increase my hit chance

[clever maple]

accuracy

[gleaming osprey]

Yes

How do i increase it?

[clever maple]

increase the secondary stat for your class

[gleaming osprey]

Alr thanks

Are there any other ways other than that?

[clever maple]

alchemy bubble gives more accuracy to the 2nd stat

[gleaming osprey]

Alr thanks

Lmk if there are more ways

[junior dune]

W3 card set is my go to

There are prayers that destroy your accuracy as well

[gleaming osprey]

Such as?

[clever maple]

also star talent from vip library gives accuracy if you have +220% speed, but at that point you should be using the points for other stuff

[junior dune]

Balance of Pain and Beefy for Real

That star talent is kinda trash tbh

[gleaming osprey]

I dont think i have unlocked then

Where do i get those

[clever maple]

there is a meal that gives +% accuracy

[junior dune]

Movement speed is good but you will always have over 200% speed after a while

[gleaming osprey]

Alr this helped a bit, my acc went up by 7%

[junior dune]

Balance of Pain is great and gives multikill and is gotten early in w4 td

Beefy for Real is late in w3 td

[teal inlet]

dungeon purple credits can increase acc

[gleaming osprey]

Ok thank you for that will do it right away

[gleaming osprey]

Alr maxed those but thanks anyway

[autumn rivet]

for making magma armor is it best to farm gold twine with ES or DK?

[clever maple]

technically es

reality is bubo

[short sparrow]

Oh God it hurts I accidentally just trashed a hex dice obol

[frigid swift]

you didnt need it anyway 😛

[clever maple]

only ?

[short sparrow]

It's fine just a few more hours of farming with my DK to get the frags for another one

[clever maple]

hour ? not minutes ?

[short sparrow]

hush

[clever maple]

hours*

if feels so nice to have the right set up for the pets

[frigid swift]

lol

[clever maple]

but i forgot i used all my ladle and i unlocked 3 new spices 🙃

[bright meteor]

got the parasite hat

[chilly parcel]

Can you explain what it does to pets?

[clever maple]

it has 50%? chance to give +1 spice so each time i get from 1 to 5 spices

[chilly parcel]

I see thanks

[junior dune]

Its a huge increase in spice gain for fast ones

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml# Using these pet setups were a gamechanger

It improved my cooking so much

[chilly parcel]

Ok ok thanks, i'll try suit up my pets around it. Tbh pets are black magic to me, i am at w6 and just start catch/breed shiny pets.

[clever maple]

💀 this hit hard

[jade fjord]

Do I need to keep my characters on the divinity shrine to get the linked bonuses? Or whats the benefit of leaving them on the shrine if any?

[clever maple]

leaving them on the altar = more divinity points > unlock new gods

[jade fjord]

Yeah all my chars are already like 120 divinity, I just forgot if there was a reason other than unlocking gods

[clever maple]

120 ? zamn

i mean you got this bonus too

finally got the stamp 🎉

[unique cliff]

At what point would you guys switch away from goat god to bear and then start farming with all characters again?
I've reached lvl 40 on all 10 chars in divinity for the tranq stuff, and are around lvl 35-40 on all chars in lab.
Would it be a great idea to switch 9 of my chars to bear god to have them active in lab and then another god on my main/pusher?
feel like i've been sitting in divinity and lab for ages now xD

[solar seal]

prob want 75 lab on all chars before you drop goat so you have full slots open - eventually youll need to get to 2100 total lab for last 3 lab nodes so it doesn't hurt getting levels now.

tranqi is nice stopping point early but you stil want to get to zen/mindful so you get all gods unlocked

[unique cliff]

75 😮 damn, feel like i've been stuck in divinity and lab for ages now 😄

[solar seal]

lab jail is a real thign for many people

make sure you are maximing your lab xp gains. bubo right side/proper talents, star signs, cards, etc.

[clever maple]

did you 2nd link purrmep on your es ?

[unique cliff]

nah don't have it yet unfortunately, only on goat so far

[junior dune]

Meh you probably won't have enough chips for 75 to matter and you will unlock more lab xp bonuses if you switch over earlier and can do it faster later

I did until 40 divinity and then switched of

Mine became ~50 lab

[unique cliff]

And then just went bear on 9 chars and another god on main?

[junior dune]

I think I do 7 bears, 2 novisects and 1 purnep now

But yeah something like that

[unique cliff]

Think that is what i'm gonna go with, I'm ready for a lab/divinity break

[clever maple]

there is also this suggested build, if interested or not

[brazen bay]

whats the best way to get defense on my journeyman

[clever maple]

defense overrated + are you on a journeyman and not on maestro/vman ?

[clever maple]

just for you ✊

[bright meteor]

Even with cost reductions I won't have enough bro

[clever maple]

at least atom reduction + stamp mastery helps

[rapid shale]

Also need the stamp cost reduction sigil done

[somber sundial]

is this good artifact?

[clever maple]

yeah

[clever maple]

also vial + vial master extra bonus

[bright meteor]

It would go to like 40m when I have 20m in the chest

[bright meteor]

Maxed it 51% cost reduction

[clever maple]

mongo worm slices vial ?

[bleak gazelle]

oh, thanks for reminding me to change my plat prints since i maxed that vial too

[clever maple]

🤔 🧠

good idea

[bleak gazelle]

i maxed it then wanted to get my stack back to max but idk how long it's been on plat

[clever maple]

max the vial + 10m for green stack 😏

[bleak gazelle]

nah man, the 1050 stack

feelsbad that I have vials left to roll for but I can't get the material yet

[clever maple]

bruh at least 1050m silver and void ore

[bleak gazelle]

i'm working on it

[clever maple]

clearly a sign of a new account

[frigid swift]

imagine going to 1050 on all your stuff

[clever maple]

fr

[frigid swift]

couldnt be me. lol

[bleak gazelle]

dang 53, you catchin up

[clever maple]

im at 60 but idk how

[frigid swift]

id be higher if i actually went and got prints

i been meaning to atleast get new prints on my vman for a week and havnt

[bleak gazelle]

i meant to do another speedrun

that obviously didn't happen

almost 10, nb, nb

[clever maple]

isnt better 3d printer sample bonus ?

[bleak gazelle]

this one? pretty sure it's the same as all the other sample size/rate bonuses which cap at 90%

[clever maple]

do u have it capped ?

[bleak gazelle]

yes with prayer, so i'm rather take the meal bonus for now

i've seen sample size fairly frequnetly too, cook spd was a new bonus i believe

[clever maple]

i see

[dense vessel]

do any pearls/ballons/candy help speed up divinity levels or do i just sit afk for 15 hours to get divinity 2 on all characters

[clever maple]

nope

[dense vessel]

awwwww

[eternal ruin]

I just hit w5, so I was thinking of asking that too Vei. Sucks that both lab and divinity are afk timesinks for worlds back to back

[bleak gazelle]

it do be an idle game

[clever maple]

there is a god unlocked from divinity that allows to have the character active in the lab mainframe, and another god that allows to pray from the lab

[bright meteor]

lvl11 -57.2%

Just did 2 w1 dungeons in a row and won with 5 seconds left

[clever maple]

hh is on ? or some solo runs ?

[bleak gazelle]

ayo we got 2, almost 3

[bright meteor]

50% to be done on those, catching and anvil are completed.

[simple wadi]

Don't you just love when you switch off of a character to collect AFK rewards, then switch back to the character only to randomly have lost 1000% character exp multiplier?

[clever maple]

nope, but i love when i leave bubo to claim other character afk, and i instantly see a 1h 30min afk on my bubo (this is a profit mega time)

[bleak gazelle]

idk 1000 but there's a few buffs to lowest character xp

[bright meteor]

I got parasite today lol

[pliant ferry]

parasite is best hat

[bold geyser]

Any tips to progging worship? mine are so bad and i need so many frigid souls... looks like it's gonna take weeks to get everyone's worship up higher levels so they can equip better skulls

[solar seal]

were you a victim of the noob trap charge syphon? there's no short cut to worship. you can check ie/it to see which of your TD gives most xp/charge and jst focus that

[bold geyser]

yea i just kept siphoning so my ES is like level 50

but everyone else is level 1

[clever maple]

increase your tower lv in construction and watch yt video how to beat wave X of Y stage

[pliant ferry]

but you CAN balloon worship 😉

[solar seal]

you can use time candies to get more charge, but you just gotta do it

[pliant ferry]

the ultimate savior

[bold geyser]

Ohj snap candies fill up worship

[solar seal]

yeah candies/balloons are useable

[olive drift]

Puny.

[junior dune]

Call me pope bubble is quite a nice charge buff. Have good skulls (not slush) on all characters. Higher td waves = more souls and xp. There is a starsign for worship that help as well and the po box. Also obols

[pliant ferry]

Worship appears to have lower xp requirements too and balloons carried harder there. Especially to get threshold for next skull

[brisk cape]

which of these captains are better?

[junior dune]

Worship is very closely tied to construction since your td towers will determine what wave you can get

[junior dune]

I would 100% go for boat speed

[lost tendon]

when does loot value matter?

does it like never?

or only end game, when you have billions

[clever maple]

loot value helps ealry-mid sailing to upgrade yout boats>speed

[lost tendon]

because i've been trying to get furt to elderic, but it has not been working oujt

hmm

but i get my money from big trades, none from like actual boxes

[clever maple]

also loot value helps in trades>gold>boat upgrade speed

[lost tendon]

wait loot value is also the amount of items you get?

[clever maple]

yes

[lost tendon]

not only the bars

ahh okay got it