lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[wispy harness]

oh wow today i learned

[hollow gazelle]

Passive as the same stats always works

[blazing shore]

yea, idle skilling is a different game 😄

[wispy harness]

thanks a lot !

[whole slate]

@hollow gazelle u like my avg cc proc?

[hollow gazelle]

💀

Make it 10x then its fine

[whole slate]

thats 312k tf u mean

[hollow gazelle]

Still too low

[tribal gazelle]

Do I get the bonus from soulable gum while I collect souls with MSA?

Especially "All Quick"

[clever maple]

i accidentally used all my ladle + 3 golden twine 🙃

[lethal aspen]

what did that get ya

[clever maple]

🙂

[lethal aspen]

well hopefully it wasnt too many ladles

[clever maple]

700

[teal inlet]

who doesnt love crafting trees

[clever maple]

best weapon recipe tree

[sly cedar]

donnnnne

[clever maple]

what happen to penguine ?

[tidal ice]

69% gotta stay

[sly cedar]

i took screenshot before i afk claimed because i liked the % multi better

[clever maple]

lava clearly hate the idea of that

[sly cedar]

wdym

[clever maple]

you need way more skull/points in all the deathnote achievement

[sly cedar]

yes but my goal for now is unlock vman so just need 1 mil everything and im finally finished

[clever maple]

i see

[mighty jewel]

Geez, thats nice. now to hit 420696

[clever maple]

lazy cc, 696969 is wat bigger

[blissful rampart]

Any suggestions for improving chance to get new plants in gaming? I'm missing the last 2 but struggling to get odds over 3%

[still apex]

Just keep spamming low percentages

[junior arrow]

thats cause you should be going for 0.1% chances

the difference between 0.1% and 3% isnt really that much, they are both shit odds. but you can attempt 0.1% many times before you get 1 shot at a 3%

[blissful rampart]

Thanks

[sly cedar]

im about to do my first speedrun

any tips?

[still apex]

Kill stuff. Charge for the boss, you can upgrade your talents as you go. Do it while fighting

[rich bison]

There's a good guide in tips n tricks channel

[still apex]

All your free points from tab three should go straight into extending your timer, get everything else during the speedrun

[sly cedar]

can i teleport to town at the end, switch talent preset and put talent points into skilling preset?

how long is the CD before i can attempt again?

[still apex]

You don't need to do the skilling preset til you get out

[sly cedar]

ah, you keep the extra talent points afterwards?

i thought they might disappear if you dont use em

[still apex]

They're permanent once you get them, just put them into the one you're using to speed it up as it's your first one

[sly cedar]

ok

[still apex]

Also, i don't know if you already know or not but nightmare bosses count for all three difficulties and thus 3 portals

[sly cedar]

huh, when i change presets afterwards i have no void talent points

on the other preset

ahhh, i put 1 point into speedrun and now the points are there. phew

[west slate]

What's the best world 5 map to get bubo progess for the equinox?

I was thinking about the citrus map but I'm not sure.

[latent shale]

I have 560 gems wad i do

[junior dune]

Do skilled dimwit/balance of proficiency affect construction xp?

[echo gulch]

Yes

When fighting keep skilled dimwit off and take balance of proficiency and vice versa for skilling

[junior dune]

Are you sure since the xp multiplier in game doesn't change when changing prayers?

I'm contemplating if it is griffy misinformation

[echo gulch]

I am sure

[echo gulch]

The xp multiplier is class exp not skill exp multi

[junior dune]

What? Why would he put a class xp multiplier on the construction page

It is the same both with and without prayers

It is lava so it may just be weird

[echo gulch]

I guess a better player can explain

[teal inlet]

are yin and yang cogs worth it

[junior dune]

They are a bit expensive imo

But they are good so depending on how much gems you have

[snow dove]

trying to get more damage, what should i do (eccept armor, got no nullo salt) https://melbot.idleonefficiency.com

[lethal aspen]

which char

[junior dune]

Talent levels look really low in most places. Use your books on damage boosting talents

[snow dove]

bubo

[lethal aspen]

💀

[pliant ferry]

that's hot

[snow dove]

dw bout it lmao

whale do random shit that makes no sense

got some choco chip on the side, was pushing w6 and w6 crystal kinda tanky for me atm

[junior dune]

There are a lot of stamp levels that should be basically free. Bubble 1 gives pure stats and should be easy to level with some prints. They also get multipliers from two other bubbles that look quite cheap. That will also help samples. Cooking looks easy to improve a lot by just spending vials on the cheapest meals and will give small buffs leverywhere.

[lethal aspen]

💀

[snow dove]

got some ladles too lmao

[snow dove]

ay 205 is my highest alr ?

stop da skull

[lethal aspen]

yeah i mean ur vials dmg talent

why it not 205 too

[snow dove]

forgot it existed lmao

[junior dune]

Dust mote and equinox ore should be trivial to get to lvl 4 to boost that same talent

[lethal aspen]

Can i be the one to tell you to piss off sigils

[snow dove]

good ?

[rapid shale]

Im pretty sure it is. Ive tried everything to get skilled dimwit to change my con xp. even cloudsaving does not change the xp rate. I can very visably see it affect other skills though

[junior dune]

Ditto with poison frogs

[snow dove]

nope ty

[lethal aspen]

where the 8 boxs

[snow dove]

the 8 what ?

[junior dune]

Oh, I'm guessing you don't use Shiny Snitch prayer? It will litterally multiply your shiny gain by 20 for frogs

More when you upgrade it

[snow dove]

maybe if i had it unlocked lmao

[lethal aspen]

these guys + the big bubble

you got no green salt

[snow dove]

swag box

[junior dune]

Also you don't get more shinies for longer traps if you already have 100% shiny chance

[snow dove]

swag skull too

[lethal aspen]

go fix your skulls too

[pliant ferry]

yall are savage today

[lethal aspen]

these 2 poor guys

[snow dove]

nah am good

[lethal aspen]

their only job is to worship

[rapid shale]

shiny snitch is the only way to increase shinies per trap

[snow dove]

never heard about that job

[junior dune]

I know

[snow dove]

wait i got it yoooo

should i upgrade ?

[junior dune]

Ye at least when it's cheap

[snow dove]

i'mma wait 12 min to not waste the time on those traps tho

also where do you see shiny chance ?

[junior dune]

Go to a trap in the world

[pliant ferry]

This is why I don't post my profile here

I will gladly be ineffecient in my own peace of mind 😄

[snow dove]

idgaf i just want to make people go blind :3

cuz i don't do anything normally, i just whale and do random things yunno

[pliant ferry]

I enjoy learning and trying and experimenting. Copy/pasting a perfect route in an idle game doesn't make sense to me

[lethal aspen]

yeah play the game your own way

otherwise why even play

back in w5 days we didn't have everything written out like this

no auto review bot, no mega guides (iirc)

[junior dune]

You will get a lot of shiny chance eventually

[pliant ferry]

Exactly, now guidance is different, but so many people follow the "perfect" route because the discord says its perfect 🤣

[junior dune]

That is with max prayer

[lethal aspen]

The only thing i'd tell you is don't sell your house to get doot

[pliant ferry]

Getting doot early ruined a few aspects of the game. I didn't have to learn divinity or lab

I never have to juggle alch bubbles

[lethal aspen]

or printing

[pliant ferry]

well thats sheep... nevermind

[lethal aspen]

or portal opening

[pliant ferry]

Just so much, I had Doot before I was in W^

[junior dune]

This game is way too complicated to just copy paste though and since it's possible to get permanent disadvantages in several ways it is difficult for me to play that way in this game. In general I agree with you though

[lethal aspen]

theres no such thing as a permanent disadvantage though

[junior dune]

Also this discord + griffy + lava are giving me trust issues

[lethal aspen]

except for not being able to get w1 trophy if u drop all your mining thingies 😦

[junior dune]

Getting a poor class composition is the biggest permanent disadvantage

[pliant ferry]

^

[lethal aspen]

fixable, unless you literally wenta nd ignored some of them

I remember a guy with 5 warriors

[pliant ferry]

I've seen some accounts with 5 wizards

hahaha yes!

[lethal aspen]

and that ones on you then

[pliant ferry]

yeah... logic says a balanced game needs balanced classes

[snow dove]

i don't believe in perfect route, i believe in normal route and goofy ahh route

[lethal aspen]

don't you mean the swiping route

[pliant ferry]

if the "meta" was to have 7 warriors and 1 of the rest, the game would be dead IMO

[junior dune]

Not understanding slab early on. Locking yourself out of quest gstacks. Upgrading prayers that are better at certain levels, selling your clock rings. There are so many ways to get a permanent disadvantage.

[lethal aspen]

The fact people call it slab now is sad in itself 😦

where the ol looty players

[pliant ferry]

quest gstacks isn't even that big of a deal though? What is cap... 235? so you miss out on 11 or so

[lethal aspen]

prayers just go to the moon, its not permanent

[junior dune]

It isn't a big deal but it is still annoying

[pliant ferry]

Yeah, now that clock watches are needed he HAS to add another way to get them

[lethal aspen]

thats what we thought when he added in the new recipes first

[pliant ferry]

In a game that you have to manage inventory..... 2 years later you made some world 1 quest item needed again? come on

[lethal aspen]

for dawn/twilight

[junior dune]

There is so much dubious design that can hurt players who don't pay attention to a bunch of guides.

[lethal aspen]

at least lava added in star reset potions

[pliant ferry]

I think you add in all the disadvantages its detrimental, where each one isn't a big deal on its own

[lethal aspen]

PO box resets never came 😦

[snow dove]

just get em all max

[junior dune]

PO isn't that big of a deal though since you can get so many

[snow dove]

or whale em

[lethal aspen]

wait for him to add myraid+

[pliant ferry]

Anything that is unlimited, its ok. Thats the learned process

[junior dune]

And technically you get one reset for free from the critter quest

[lethal aspen]

you can imagine some poor noob fucking up their po box

[pliant ferry]

I did, but I got 2 resets out of some event box I think

[lethal aspen]

definitely not me in w3 days

[snow dove]

dw bout it

[pliant ferry]

But when you messed up PO box you had what... 100 points? 200? Just farm pens now and you get that in a day

[lethal aspen]

Yeah but gl farming pens

[snow dove]

ez

[lethal aspen]

when choc chip comes twice a year

[pliant ferry]

You can "fix" that problem easier in late game.

[snow dove]

wdym i got a bunch of em

[lethal aspen]

Were talking about noobs fucking stuff up though, not mid/lategamers

[pliant ferry]

Oh I agree, just saying ti gets fixed easier the later you get. Somethings aren't like that

[lethal aspen]

anyway 💤

[snow dove]

should i push rift (kinda easy for me to do so rn

[pliant ferry]

I found the first 4ish rewards great, then it gets to a realm of bonuses that you really can't use

3 - skill mastery is huge

[snow dove]

that's where i stopped , at skill mastery

[pliant ferry]

everything after that is pretty much late game stuff

mid/late**

[junior dune]

Just be aware that you can schow the rift and it gets harder if you push

[pliant ferry]

Speaking of mistakes made!

I'm on rift 50 when I learned that 🤣

[junior dune]

I really want Construct Mastery for the salt production

[pliant ferry]

thats what I pushed for.... and then it became "easy" so I just kept going

[junior dune]

Also ruby cards for crystal chance

[pliant ferry]

But I doubt he has any cards at that level

[junior dune]

I have several max vials as well

[pliant ferry]

this guy? yeah he probably doesn't have ruby cards 🤣

[snow dove]

who you calling a guy ?

[pliant ferry]

Everyone on the internet is a guy until proven otherwise

[snow dove]

true

proved it before :3

[pliant ferry]

Well I wasn't here!

[snow dove]

heheheha

[pliant ferry]

This chat goes crazy sometimes

[snow dove]

fr fr

[junior dune]

Well I think it's fair to assume that the whalelady specifically is a lady

[snow dove]

tho idk what i'd gain by lying about being a girl, cuz i already say i'm whaling and gave some gems to some people cuz why not lmao

[junior dune]

And my chips look about the same since there's so many bad chips recently

[pliant ferry]

You are catfishing, really an old man with oil money trying to lure in children with your gems

[snow dove]

wtf u mean ????? that's quite the accusation yunno

[pliant ferry]

I'm not reflecting, you're reflecting

[snow dove]

lmao git gud scrub

jealous cuz a girl got money and u dont

and the people i gave gems to are older than me too

[pliant ferry]

I measure my wealth in dog love

[snow dove]

so bout 0

[pliant ferry]

😦

[snow dove]

you kill puppies in ur free time

fr fr

[pliant ferry]

My puppies are adoooooorable

[snow dove]

not if you squish them you monster

[pliant ferry]

I just accepted defeat and took out all the "bad" chips and only have chips slotted if they are good. The rest are blank 😁

unsquished ball of love!

[echo gulch]

Same as me lol

[echo gulch]

Wait you can chow and zow rift?

From rift 1 ?

[gentle furnace]

rift counts as 1

[wanton obsidian]

Did I set up my bubo right?

[gentle furnace]

CC first

[wanton obsidian]

Oh!

[gentle furnace]

use stingers

[wanton obsidian]

Stingers?

[junior dune]

Boxing glove weapon

[junior dune]

That way you will run around more and place the auras better

It will be a damage reduction but it's so worth it

[wanton obsidian]

Oh that's what I'm wearing

[gentle furnace]

he has glove on but not stinger

hmm no visual

[wanton obsidian]

Weird

[gentle furnace]

yeah just tested it doesnt show when you're running

[pliant ferry]

Question - once your poison can 1 tap, does aura really matter anymore?

[gentle furnace]

yes

[junior dune]

Yes because aura kills faster

[pliant ferry]

por que

[gentle furnace]

aura is faster

you need 1 sec for poison to infect mob and another sec to proc while aura just instantly deal dmg

[wanton obsidian]

At what point do you take the poison skill out?

[pliant ferry]

Multi level maps you always need it. Maybe there is a world where your aura is big enough to cover all OJ spawns and you don't need poison, but it can't hurt to have it on the board still

[gentle furnace]

fart cloud is still nice to kill off enemies that are not in aura range when theres multiple platforms

[wanton obsidian]

So always have it on?

[gentle furnace]

yeah

[wanton obsidian]

I saw a set up where they only had aura

[wanton obsidian]

Oh wow aura first?

[pliant ferry]

Poison is the catch all when nothing else to do

[junior arrow]

swap aura and respawn

otherwise its good

[gentle furnace]

at samurai?

[wanton obsidian]

It's zoro the goat

[pliant ferry]

If you can't pop respawn on each use, I think its a marginal gain having it 3rd?

[wanton obsidian]

Pop respawn what that mean?

[pliant ferry]

If your talent is high enough and enough mobs on the map, each respawn kills enough to trigger respawn immediately

If on avg 2-3 seconds remaining, slot 3 is better

[bleak gazelle]

and now i forgot to change it back to afk while i was actually afk, oh well

[ruby barn]

why cant I accept this??

[pliant ferry]

rounding error too stronk for you

[ruby barn]

[wanton obsidian]

You shouldn't accept it anyways

It's rare treasure U should just keep it

[zinc bison]

Up until your ships can reach the final island in 2 hours travel time. Then go ham, friend.
Edit: typo

[ruby barn]

:D

[toxic saddle]

[ruby barn]

dont have troll armour tho

.... and I still have to unlock tab 5

[bold geyser]

if i went with the 2DK 2BB setup, should my last duo class be SB or ES?

[gentle furnace]

es

[junior dune]

ES gives more atoms since it can get huge log samples. SB is better at gmush farming but that isn't as important

[pliant ferry]

how DARE you

gmush is love gmush is life

[ashen shuttle]

anyone have any tips or resources for early sailing progression? I'd like to get to a point where I can start trying for talent level arti but am not sure what I should be prioritizing in terms of upgrades. I've just been grabbing as many ships/captains as possible (5 currently) but not sure how much I should prioritize more ships vs current ship upgrades

[tidal river]

Focus on speed at first and loot value. Some arti chances dont hurt. At first u dont have enough speed to travel upto far islands . Then focus on sailing speed arifacts and cards stamp bonus etc.

[pale crag]

I remember the time when w5 was end gamer chat

[toxic saddle]

😂

God that was awhile ago lol

[ashen shuttle]

OK cool, ty

[pale crag]

I remember it
Everyone was scared of w5 chat lol
We stayed in w4 chat

[toxic saddle]

😂

I wasn’t exactly scared, I’m pretty sure y’all considered me mid late to late game on my main, but I stayed in w3-w4 chat cause y’all were there lol

[pale crag]

I was scared

[toxic saddle]

lol

[solar seal]

one thing i'll add - in game does really shit job at telling you best way to use your ships. IE/IT's UI re: ship travel time/distance will be your best friend. try not to send ships further than waht they are capable of based on your min travel time. you want ships going back and forth as many times as possible based on how often you check your ships

[pliant ferry]

can confirm W6 chat is scurry

[toxic saddle]

Now true that

I’m not allowed to go there atm. I’m only doing 90T damage

[pliant ferry]

First thing I see in W6 chat..... I'll stay here 🙂 I like it here

[toxic saddle]

That looks juicy

[toxic saddle]

Don’t go to endgame chat, you’ll see 40x

[bold geyser]

Laughs in 3.12x

[toxic saddle]

[pliant ferry]

I posted my 10x thinking I was doing great, and I got dogged for like an hour

I quietly went back under my rock

[toxic saddle]

lol

[bold geyser]

imagine elitism in an idle game

[toxic saddle]

Listen man, your doing great

[pliant ferry]

I think it was more that my damage is heavily out of balance compared to my DR 🤣

[toxic saddle]

Mm, that only thing that matters later on is drop rarity

So that’s prolly the first thing they look at

[pliant ferry]

That was the day I learned that haha.... but until just a month ago I was always damage locked

and I never sat down to review my account..... so now i have 5T damage 👀

[toxic saddle]

They will do anything for an extra 0.1% drop rarity

[toxic saddle]

👀

[pliant ferry]

I have 3x multikill while active clearing W6 zones 😶

Where we are going we don't need drop rate

[toxic saddle]

W6 is painful lol

[pliant ferry]

I love the multi char portals

[toxic saddle]

I do too

I brought it up awhile ago in a vc with others

[pliant ferry]

its like a secondary to the armor unlock achievements

Because everyone loved killing kruk on nightmare vman

[toxic saddle]

We all did indeed love doing that…

[toxic saddle]

It stops endgamers from pushing to the end immediately, don’t get me wrong. They cleared it pretty quickly, but it would have been way faster without it

[pliant ferry]

It was a great way to show me which of my chars were lacking. During W5 I just left them afk.... and I'm sure it took some DAYS to clear a portal. Where now I see it because I'm waiting on them

[toxic saddle]

Yea 😂

It makes you stop neglecting some characters

[clever maple]

how does IT guaranteed drop calc works ?

mostly ned to know kills with multi kill

[junior dune]

The afk calculations give guaranteed drops after a while. Enter that information and it shows you how long you need to wait for it to occur

[clever maple]

but "kills with multi kill" is kill per hour ?

• i need to divide by 4 bc i have god + lab bonus ?

[junior dune]

Yes like it says in the footnote

I think you may get issues due to kill per kill though anyways.

[clever maple]

and the result ? i need to divide by 2 the "x2 drop in 1456h"

[solar seal]

if you didn't divide your kph by your multiliers, you'd multiply the time by wahatever number you didn't divide by

[clever maple]

i did divide the kill per hour

[solar seal]

so yeah tech 1 drop would be ~725 hrs. if you are fishing for one of those rare recipe drops, you likely aren't ever goign to afk long enough to meaningful get it through the guarantee

[clever maple]

so id better leave someone there and check once per day ?

[solar seal]

you throw as many people and as many hours at it and pray to rngesus

[clever maple]

+- is 30d for 1 char, then 3d with 10 char

[solar seal]

thats not how it works

its 30day continuous witho nly 1 character

cannot split duty

[brazen fern]

whats wrong with the w5 boss and why does he never drop his card?

[clever maple]

"cooking 100° for 30min = cooking for 200° for 15min" 🧠

[clever maple]

what is your drop rate ?

[solar seal]

if you want to utilize the drop guarantee, you are in for a bad time thinking this way

[brazen fern]

= cooking 1000° for 3 min

[pliant ferry]

This is idleon not Calculus

[clever maple]

lava is a bozo for not letting us increasing the temperature when cooking 🙄

[brazen fern]

~6,5 but i also use card dr set

[brazen fern]

=cooking 6000° for 30 sec

[clever maple]

kinda low dr

[brazen fern]

i get flashbacks to the simpsons episode where marge tried to bake a cake in 5 min 😄

[clever maple]

dr works for card drop rate

[brazen fern]

thats where i am in my acc progression :/ - still, the other bosses are all at least t3 on their cards

didnt find a single on from w5 boss

[clever maple]

you dont have dr obol set up ?

[solar seal]

how many times have you killed it?

[brazen fern]

like 25 still going

[solar seal]

you know kattle card is ~5x rarer so sample size of 25 and 0 cards is still right

[brazen fern]

actually didnt know that

but i guess that makes sense

[brazen fern]

oof

[solar seal]

to reference, troll is 1 in 250

amarok is 1 in 25

[clever maple]

with ur dr is 1 in 192+-

[brazen fern]

well ok that explains alot

[solar seal]

each world is harder and harder

[clever maple]

you made me want to farm my kruk card too

[brazen fern]

tbh i just wanna get my first sparkle obol so the slots arnt empty anymore 😄 the card is just annoyingly rare

(as are the sparkle drops from troll and kruk)

[clever maple]

with my dr i drop a card 1 in 66

[next temple]

once i get all 10 gods, do I dial back divinity gain?

[clever maple]

you get extra dmg

[sharp vine]

Just slap everyone on Tranqi and forget about it for a while

[glad crow]

thats the least important part about godranks

[clever maple]

bruh u only getting +% divinity exp per rank i think

• that talent

mini boss dosent count toward daily boss gem cap

[rapid shale]

% Div exp > damage for all chars. As you level up Div you get higher minor link bonuses which is the important part. Then once we have more sneaking buffs and can get more jade. There’s an emporium unlock that gives higher blessing bonus per god rank

[tribal vessel]

i new to w5 and i just got dedotated ram pet , sheepie is better no ?

[clever maple]

equipping them is aesthetic/flex u get the bonus anyways

[tribal vessel]

u get bonus from all pets even if not equip?

[clever maple]

yes

[tribal vessel]

LMAO

ty for the info

rip i didnt get the purple thing

[bleak gazelle]

you're like w5.75

[tribal vessel]

decent for pushing w5 ?

[clever maple]

bb isnt the best for pushing

[tribal vessel]

dk?

[clever maple]

better

[bleak gazelle]

if you're afk pushing it's fine

you'll just need much higher damage on BB and VMan to kill boss than any other class

[pliant ferry]

lol I accept that.... You'll be kicking me out soon 😢

[tribal vessel]

so i should push with him

[bleak gazelle]

weren't you posting about all your cruk obols yesterday?

well, might need to work on him a bit before trying to actively push

[pliant ferry]

and ZERO necklaces. another 5k keys down

[clever maple]

thingumabob type of build 👀

[bleak gazelle]

probably need more accuracy for your refinery talent to kick in to help our damage

[tribal vessel]

my dk suck xd

[bleak gazelle]

now's a good time to fix that

DK is great for many things

[tribal vessel]

yeah the refinery talent doesnt kick xd

[bleak gazelle]

time to pump up them numbers

[tribal vessel]

need to put like 100 in wis

[bleak gazelle]

max wisdom talent in tab 1, pump purple 1 bubble, work on wisdom and accuracy stamps

[tribal vessel]

i dont need the defense thing , i have the auto feeder

im a returning player last time i play w3 was endgame

i have push to w5 xd kinda lost ahahaha

[bleak gazelle]

you're in good hands here my first 2 year afk, w3 wasn't even out yet

then I took another 4-6 month break recently

!ie If you have an IE, feel free to update the public profile and drop it in chat

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger

[pliant ferry]

be warned, ace will make fun of your DR

[bleak gazelle]

!it or you can use IT, too, though that one is a bit more finicky sometimes

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[tribal vessel]

yeah im on that website

how i can link you up my profile ?

[bleak gazelle]

whoa, whoa. no such thing. unless you forget to swap obols/cards

[pliant ferry]

lol

[bleak sorrel]

Take a moment to relearn the game. Upgrade gear, resample, catch up skills, make a plan for alchemy and stamps, work on post office. Do the basics and your account will catch up in a few weeks. That will be so much more beneficial than banging head first into a brick wall of portals.

[tribal vessel]

before playing my w3 account , i have spend 2 week on a new account to remake w1 and w2

[bleak gazelle]

Public Profile > Upload > copy/paste link

[clever maple]

beware ace gonna roast you if you share

[bleak gazelle]

the roasting makes you better

more flavors and whatnot

[pliant ferry]

when i get my tome to 0.1% I'll share mine

[tribal vessel]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=captainonlsd ?

[bleak gazelle]

Ayy, toolbox worked today

[bleak sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/thriller-michael-jackson-gif-9865515175359021441

[clever maple]

you someone cooking a roast when you see "is typing ..." for minutes

[short sparrow]

Okay so what's the magic HP/def to not get one shot by crystals at wurms? I have like 15k HP and 4k def rn

[clever maple]

increase hp, def do nothing at that point

[sharp vine]

Honestly you just need way more HP so star talent keeps you alive

[pliant ferry]

Def is dead stat 😄

[clever maple]

def get useless between w4-5

[short sparrow]

It still reduces damage

[royal olive]

Any way to recover silver stopwatches? Sold them all a long time ago now theres new recipe =/

[clever maple]

nope + did u sell them

[rapid shale]

hopefully you did not complete the quest on all chars

[royal olive]

yeah fair point i can get a few more with other chars.

[crude cloak]

is it dumb to focus all of my boats on one island just to unlock one artifact?

[clever maple]

nope

[rapid shale]

thats the strat generally

[clever maple]

if you really need is okey but as long u get 2h trip

[crude cloak]

oh ok

[bleak gazelle]

I would work on these first

• Keep everyone in Divinity until you unlock Goharut (god #5), since you have Bear unlocked, you can keep one person out to push, just switch people over to bear so you get your Lab bonuses (like Killer's Brightside)
• Get your Maestro be be rank 1 in all the W1-3 non-town skills
• Use your library books, literally just use them on everything until you get the 1k achievement

Then I would work on

• Get your last two elite classes on 2nd/last character
• Resample to make use of Maestro's efficiency talent and fuel your refinery, alchemy, and stamps. Sampling basic materials is great to help out with the first 2 alchemy bubbles
• Work towards level 100 for first alch bubble and 50 for second, and whatever you can for 17th
• Check out the 📌 in #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 to fix your refinery levels
• I'm not sure if you've unlocked the Equinox map in W3 past the bloodbones, if not, I would focus on opening that with 1 person that's not in divinity. The bonuses are huge but are somewhat time-gated

After

• Look up your missing stamps, some are from drops, some are from quests
• You have a lot of vials you can get from w3-5 stuff, keep rolling for those
• You don't need to work on Atom Collider at the moment, you don't have enough materials or prints to realistically unlock anything useful with it right now
• Work on your Constellations/Star Signs, you've only claimed two of them and there's a lot of decent stuff to get, especially when you can unlock Infinite Star Signs
• Fill up your forge with literally any ore
• Switch your anvil production to mostly thread/nails/bricks, you're going to need a lot for bubbles and stamps and those also give the most exp/hr

[tribal vessel]

any website for build?

[bleak gazelle]

@tribal vessel

sorry, forgot to tag you in that reply

[tribal vessel]

thx i will read chief !

[bleak gazelle]

I used this previously, should still be fine
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml#

For alch and stamps, it's basically just upgrade everything but working on those first two as a goal is a good start

[tribal vessel]

so in general im not so lost , just a couple thing i have to work it

[bleak gazelle]

Yeah, honestly your bubbles were better than mine when I hit w5 I think

You're on the right track, hope that just gives you some more direction

[bold geyser]

that was so beneficial even I'm tempted to post

[tribal vessel]

for the meastro , i need to do that right now or after i unlock the vman?

[pliant ferry]

Don't be fooled, Ace was nicer because we all called him out

[bleak gazelle]

Hey now, most of mine are like that unless I see something really whack...but then I just throw some ??? at it

[bleak gazelle]

I would work on it "now" or at least before you resample

The earlier you do it, the better because samples print every hour

[tribal vessel]

big brain !

[clever maple]

300 kruk and no obols 😐

nvm i got one

[bleak gazelle]

Oh, I guess for resampling, you only need Maestro to be #1 in mining/chopping/fishing/catching

Should still try and get him to #1 in worship/trapping though

ayyy, last one from the first island

[short sparrow]

301st times the charm

[clever maple]

i got one, idk when but yes

[bleak gazelle]

now let's see if I can get the ancient and eldritch for this

[clever maple]

get fungus island artifact to eldritch

[bleak gazelle]

one day

[clever maple]

i got it with a %0,22 u can do it

what does that ?

also i finally beaten arena 125

[pliant ferry]

I finally got my artifact up to 0.12%.... its been weeks 😦

[clever maple]

for sovereign ?

[pliant ferry]

yeppers, fury relic

It kills me every book I use

[clever maple]

u got the sovereign fury ?

[pliant ferry]

Nope that's what I've been hunting

[clever maple]

lmao

[pliant ferry]

I'm nowhere close to the new captain. Hit a gigantic wall in sneaking

[storm lotus]

What’s the most optimal way to unlock chem plant? Is it researching on every plant or does it need to show as 0.1% or higher?

[quiet pewter]

what floor. jade/hour you at

[quiet pewter]

the more often you roll the better, no strat beyond that - every plant sounds tedious though, id wait till its showing a little

[pliant ferry]

floor 10, my main char shows 70T not sure how that calculates

[storm lotus]

Okay, that’s what I thought. Thanks! Takes forever, but I get it hahaha

[tribal vessel]

will take weeks to get to 60mining xd

[bleak gazelle]

have you checked plat ore xp?

[clever maple]

crystal countdown

[quiet pewter]

you rocking the standard comp?
1 power scroll +rosary
3-6 veil+rosary
rest lotus (or bombs if you dont have enough)

[bleak gazelle]

also you can use your maestro transfusion skill

[tribal vessel]

37k exp hours for plat xd

[pliant ferry]

Yup all 40+ish

[junior dune]

Upgrade pick, get skilled dimwit and mine some other ore that gives more xp. Minigame is also quite good for xp. You can die right away if you want

[bleak gazelle]

yeah, just mess around with card sets and different ores to get the best rate, then slam some time candies

[quiet pewter]

ah okay, guess its just a case of pushing out the next floor then, i dont think theres much that should be a wall around that level @pliant ferry

[pliant ferry]

Was just way faster prior to. felt progression, now i feel like i'm playing gaming 2.0

[quiet pewter]

yeah it tails off for sure

[clever maple]

guys, does this increase my cc ?

[pliant ferry]

The next 3 upgrades at Jade Emporium are laughable to farm for.... and to think there are 17 after it with no increases to sneaking in sight is comical

[quiet pewter]

dont worry on them just buy when they easy, you probably better reinvesting in sneaking. Im at over 1Q/hr jade, so it does speed up some still - im sure there are ppl with way higher than that too

[pliant ferry]

oh for sure, I got the unlocks I wanted turtle and artifacts. I'd like the captain but he appears to be at least 4+ where I'm at which is at least a month from now 🤣

[reef solar]

Litterly my first chest, is this good

[bleak gazelle]

more money

[reef solar]

is getting ancient normal?

[clever maple]

yes

[reef solar]

thought im lucky 😭

[clever maple]

you clearly didnt unlock eldritch or sovereign 😏

[verbal acorn]

will he ever find them

[frigid swift]

man CCing with DR stuff on is a whole new world lol

[bleak gazelle]

lul, what were you using before?

[frigid swift]

iunno nothin? lol

[pliant ferry]

thats right, more neglect. The way the game was meant to be played

[short sparrow]

Not my ass farming glublins to get more HP for wurms

[pliant ferry]

I am pretty sure everyone hit that same wall. Crystals get big scary

[frigid swift]

i stil havnt tried wurms lol

i like my oranges

[bleak gazelle]

just need more damage

[pliant ferry]

Just need to deathroll the alligator before it deathrolls you

[short sparrow]

I can survive at wurms until I accidentally spawn 10 crystals and they kick the shit out of me

[frigid swift]

lmao

you picked the wrong hood today son!

[pliant ferry]

start talent ubercharged heatlh - the ultimate crystal killer

[frigid swift]

i dont even think i have that one

[short sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/jojos-bizarre-adventure-milton-jojo-kicking-fight-gif-16647809

Me basically

Ooo lava teasing w6 bg

[pliant ferry]

I've never changed my background once 😐

[icy pulsar]

why are all my characters except my es only getting 3 xp/hr in div when all 9 characters are on mantra

[sharp vine]

Mantra doesn't show on individual characters iirc

[icy pulsar]

ahh ok

[paper sail]

They also only get EXP after characters are claimed before them, if that makes sense.

So the first Mantra character logged into has nothing pending, gets only their own exp.
2nd character has exp waiting from char 1 only.
3rd character has exp waiting from char 1 and 2 both
...
9th character has exp waiting from everyone

You basically have to log into everyone twice for them to catch up lol

[icy pulsar]

yeah i realised that afterwards

collected them all and went back to one of them and their div went up

[viscid mulch]

what do i farm once i get all the eldritch up to the steak, but i dont have enough sailing speed to keep going? do i just farm the farthest island i can do in min time?

[bright meteor]

Got larry to 91%

[iron gazelle]

does this keep its stats when premiumified?

f

[slender parcel]

I heard you can't use black pearls on account wide skills or current content aka most recent world, is divinity also included in that?

[paper sail]

I'm not sure on that one. Try it out and report back 🫡

[gaunt nymph]

hey, does smb know if you can get the molten knuckler recipe from candys?

i already have 300m kills or more and stiiiill no recipe

[frigid swift]

you can.

just takes a lot

[gaunt nymph]

hmm

is 12x droprate enough?

[restive aspen]

What boosts artifact find chance? I feel like I've got everything but my find chance is like 0.05 to 0.12% for the end for sovereign artifacts

[gaunt nymph]

i wasted all my candies :/

man i have 350m kills, i want the fcking recipe

[clever maple]

sovereign artifacts are suppose to be rare

[clever maple]

also the farther the island, the rarer the chance

[bright meteor]

5th tier soon 0.0001%

[frigid swift]

damn. im not stonk enough for wurms yet. I can 1 shot them with aura but not with gas

[clever maple]

idk when, but my damage got high for no reason, i started to kill them

anyone got a ss of a full personal skill obol ?

[frigid swift]

yeh maybe if i switch off DR cards and went back to my damage set i might.

[gloomy dust]

Also, multikill and kill per kill don’t affect rare drops, but Dr does… you might have millions of kills with multikill and kill per kill, but it’s hasn’t rolled for the drop that many times yet

[gaunt nymph]

yeah but still

[gloomy dust]

Yeah for sure annoying, just wanted to make sure you knew

[gaunt nymph]

yeah ik

[slender parcel]

it do not be working

[gaunt nymph]

i have 360m kills

[slender parcel]

sad times

[gaunt nymph]

i think for a thing with a 1/50m kills, 360m kills should be enough

[clever maple]

use guaranteed drop calc

[gaunt nymph]

ik statistics dont work like this, but i have already a 99,99% of getting it at this point bcs i am way over the 3σ domain

[gaunt nymph]

where can i find it?

[clever maple]

IT

!it

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[clever maple]

in tools there is a guaranteed drop calc, where you put ur dr, kill per hour (divided by 2 or 4 if you have lab and/or god) and multikill

but probably it gonna say something like 35days of afk for a guaranteed recipe

[atomic onyx]

How can there be a guaranteed drop tool if there is no mechanism to guarantee a drop in game ? Or is there ?

[clever maple]

🤷‍♂️

is just math

[atomic onyx]

Its just assumption

[half sparrow]

How hard is kattle? Just candied myself through whole w5 on my main

[clever maple]

dk and es get an easier time, other meh

[atomic onyx]

No according to math if there is a chance of 1/50m the actual result can be 1/infinity technically. So we can’t guarantee it with math

We can just assume

[clever maple]

you can assume in 35d of pure afk 1 character with Xdr kills over 50m and guaranteed the drop

[atomic onyx]

That is most likely probability. But how is it guaranteed? How does repeating an rng structure suddenly skew the rng itself to guarantee a drop if there is no in built mechanism in place ? Yeah it will probably drop in 35 days but there is a probability that it won’t. So unless there is no mechanism to guarantee a drop when a certain amount of kills had happened we can’t guarantee it.

[clever maple]

ask IT creator

[upbeat stratus]

Back to back nug

[gloomy dust]

It’s not guaranteed, but it nearly is… it could literally take eternity to get it, or 1 minute, but it is statistically “guaranteed” at a certain point

[clever maple]

damn, you got less upgrades than me, but more stacked than me on nuggets

[atomic onyx]

Yeah ik i just wanted to know if there was a sure drop mechanism

[upbeat stratus]

Equinox 😉😉

[gloomy dust]

No sadly… but we can make our best guess for how long it should take, and hope that it’s right

[clever maple]

how i should be using my grabage ?

+% garbage or wait for book

[blazing shore]

book is trash (lul), I'd say garbage or bottles

[soft crescent]

How long does it roughly take to push divinity from 15 to 25 with 8 chars on mantra style? I'm debating grabbing some lab xp first if it's a long time.

[clever maple]

you could consider pushing divinity points to unlock goharut, which will let your linked character in the lab and at the same time it will give you divinity points

[clever maple]

by doing this + sailing + gaming, you can upgrade the blessing bonus of the first 2 gods, so you get divinity points faster

[soft crescent]

Makes sense. I just checked and I'd make 120 divinity/h and would need roughly a week for a decent chance at GOAT. If 15 to 25 would take more than a month I'd do GOAT first, otherwise it seems fine to get to 25 first I guess.

[clever maple]

yeah, but you can consider while you waiting that week, you will get bonuses from sailing and gaming + upgrading blessing bonus of the first 2 gods, and it could be less than a week

[verbal acorn]

when should i stop leaving my characters in lab with goat

[pliant ferry]

When you get Doot

[clever maple]

when doot

[pliant ferry]

👀

[verbal acorn]

aw man but ill be elderly by then..

[pliant ferry]

Until then.... you get a concentration camp and you get a concentration camp

[verbal acorn]

ill have 4 grandchildren that i will pass the legend of the doot pet to

[soft crescent]

That makes the decision difficult 😄 I can roughly estimate how long GOAT will take. I have no idea how long 15-25 takes

[orchid iris]

Do we have the next boss battle yet?

[clever maple]

sailing and gaming can be done at any time so is like an extra bonus

[clever maple]

when lab lv75 on everyone, then you can change to arctis

[pliant ferry]

No update yet 😰

[soft crescent]

Is there a skill exp per rank table somewhere? I'd like to know how much xp is needed for that 15-25. Than I can make an informed decision at least

[verbal acorn]

hmm.. seems ill be in hibernation then

[pliant ferry]

slap that bad boy into an excel sheet and you should have all you need.

[short sparrow]

Yoooo I can survive at wurms with bubo now

Time for that sweet cc

[pliant ferry]

Makes me sad wurms is still best in W6

[short sparrow]

Yeah, ah well

Lol my first cc at wurms and it was worse than citringes

I'll come back with more damage I guess

[pliant ferry]

Can you 1 tick poison?

[short sparrow]

Nope that's it for sure

[pliant ferry]

yeah cause its like 5 levels

[short sparrow]

I was just curious to see how much I got

115k vs 140k at citringes

So back we go for now

[pliant ferry]

Aura is just so good there

[clever maple]

baby troll map is like citric, but less long + w6 statue/gfood farming just for 0,5B more than wurm

[clever maple]

• you wont get 1 shot by crystal

[pliant ferry]

I will probably do whatever map comes with more bonuses like you pointed out. Is it really worth getting more wurms when you have gazillions.... just for a few thousands seconds

[snow spruce]

What's the best way to progress in gaming? I feel like I rolled a big golden nugget early, but I've been stuck around the 1-5k green (photo for reference because idk what it's called) point for literally months and have no idea how I'm ever supposed to unlock the gaming console at this point..

[pliant ferry]

equinox is huge to get more nuggets. gaming = nugget farming

[clever maple]

no photo + increase bits value

[snow spruce]

Hit enter too fast xd

[clever maple]

increase bits value then you progress faster

[snow spruce]

Okay but I've been increasing bit value for months at this point it feels like, am I maybe missing something?

Leveling up sea shell, fertilizer bit spot, focusing acorns on bit value whenever possible etc

[clever maple]

squirrel ?

[pliant ferry]

\

[clever maple]

artifact ?

[snow spruce]

I see. I'm a bit behind on sailing, as I was farming out eldritch artifacts. Thank you - Gummy should help a lot!

[soft crescent]

Just for posterity: it takes 4654 xp to go from 15 to 25. It's a bit difficult to guess xp/h with 8 people on mantra style (and it differs by char) but should be around 20/h. Which would mean it takes about 10 days. Slower on some chars, faster on others.

[clever maple]

also doing cheap/easy achievement does give you some bonus

[pliant ferry]

Buying doot sounds imensely easier 🤣

[snow spruce]

Yeah, I've got most of the easier ones done - at 169, if I'm reading it correctly. x147.

[soft crescent]

Doot sounds a bit too game breaking for my taste

[pliant ferry]

Do you at least weekly free roll?

[clever maple]

also alchemy

[soft crescent]

I do. I'm also a bit of a hypocrite since I did get sheepie and the dropchance one from a pack and I'm using them. Sheepie feels more like a QOL thing though.

[pliant ferry]

Yeah sheepie and the box quick ref are just sanity checks

[clever maple]

if you didnt lack in breeding>cooking you may have unlocked this (there is a second meal that gives bits value)

[pliant ferry]

That's lava admitting he didn't like a function because virtually everyone has sheep

[clever maple]

also idk if you unlocked skill master (rift), but at lv200 gaming you get 1,15x bits value

[soft crescent]

I found the decision of what bubble to equip fun for the first bits, but having to switch it out anytime I do something else just gets annoying

[pliant ferry]

and I bet prior to that the time in between samples was massive

Its already bad enough. But prior to sheep and rift..... I can't imagine changing cards and bubbles and then realizing you forgot one just to start over 🤮

[soft crescent]

I don't have rift yet 😢 or at least not that far. And I keep forgetting to change the cardset when sampling...

[clever maple]

ozzie soul vial also gives +% bits

[soft crescent]

Or grabbing all the right food and so on. I'd pay 20$ to have a preset that changes all the stuff at once

[pliant ferry]

oh I still forget food regularly

[soft crescent]

I feel like Lava is missing out on big bucks by just selling pay2win instead of also selling some QOL features like wardrobe presets

[clever maple]

if you really wanna boost your gaming, PO gaming does give " % afk counts for gaming" so you can get some extra progress, but require to use 800 boxed (max) on all character

[soft crescent]

Not sure if this is the right channel for it, but at what point does it make sense to do some of the more advanced activities? Specifically I mean bubo active cranium farming and PO pens farming. At level 150 with roughly a week in W5 it doesn't feel like I'm strong enough yet.

[clever maple]

when you have ||choco chip||

• for bubo the recommended thing: ||tenteyecle at lv 200||

[upbeat stratus]

When is solo leveling episode 13 coming out

[soft crescent]

Well I guess I'm not doing it for at least 3 months then. I'm not even seeing choco chip on the rotation 😭

[clever maple]

i mean choco chip is mostly for statue and gold food and pens

[clever maple]

when i reach my bubble to 3000 (i will level up faster)

[pliant ferry]

geeeeeeeeeeeeeez

[upbeat stratus]

Dayum

[soft crescent]

Yeah makes sense. Still feels bad that it's gated behind a few months wait if you started with bad timing.

[clever maple]

it rotate +- every 6 months (twice in a year)

[soft crescent]

I think it was a few weeks ago so I guess I'm waiting roughly 5 months now

[clever maple]

id suggest to try to push your tenteyecle to 200 so u can start pushing alchemy (you can push grind time [+% class exp] to level up faster>more point to use in skill talents>faster grind)

btw lv200 is the threshold that change the 2sec to 3sec skill reduction

[soft crescent]

I'm at 145 or so max level right now. I'll read up on how to get the final 55. https://cyrikdc.idleonefficiency.com if you are curious 😄

[clever maple]

but if you cant id still suggest to some bubo active farming

[clever maple]

you probably gonna have to work on sailing

[soft crescent]

I do it any time cranium comes of cooldown. Otherwise I active on ES for drops and maestro to push for vman.

[clever maple]

btw ur key

[whole rock]

How long does it usually take to get things like dice dynamo or lucky lad?

[soft crescent]

That happened 1 hour ago 😛 Didn't overflow yet

[clever maple]

lucky lad at certain point is easy, dynamo is just rng

[clever maple]

damn desynchronize

[soft crescent]

Nah, just daily reset an hour ago and I didn't fetch them the last 2 days.

[whole rock]

I'm getting to a point where I'm starting to work on my drop rate heavily. I've got all the pop obols for my family and 2 of my main active characters. Still need the dice obols and that slug companion

I'm pretty far in w6 with some of my characters but I feel like a lot of my progress is still w5, maybe even early w5

[pliant ferry]

Join the club!

[clever maple]

id suggest to claim your library as often as you can for achievement

[whole rock]

I've been working on that too. Plus the clicks in w4

[soft crescent]

I usually do although I have just upgraded the speed to a decent level so I'm not used to how often I have to do it now.

[clever maple]

you need to work on your sampling, your refinery is struggling on materials

[soft crescent]

Are you sure? I red salts have run continuously. I mostly struggle to have enough red salts to run the lower ones because some of the reds get burned by buildings/smithing.
But you're right, I need to resample today. I just finally passed 3 more chars with my maestro.

[clever maple]

idk to me its says, you arent printing any of the red materials

[soft crescent]

Ah yes, because I turned those off anyway due to red salts running out too early. Plus I usually do a lot of the monster mats on the ES instead of using samples since the mat samples are so low still.

[clever maple]

aight

[soft crescent]

Sorry, I don't want to sound defensive. I appreciate you looking at it 😄

[clever maple]

btw your trapping and worshiping are pretty good

[soft crescent]

Thanks. It's been pretty easy to push those higher than I can get the tools. I mostly struggled on frosty until 2 days ago, but finally got it to 49. I'll try cans soon to get the multi prayer but I'm not sure my towers are good enough yet.

[clever maple]

you lack more in breeding>cooking

breeding (spices) and cooking (meals) will haunt you when there will be chips/jewels in rotation

[soft crescent]

Yeah cooking has been not fun. Tomorrow there's going to be Purple Rhombol on sale so I've been precooking Spaghetti but I probably started to early on it.

[clever maple]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml# this guide (the pets part especially) helped me in pets, before this guide i was a clown doing arena/battle

i unlocked so many spices with this guide that im struggling on keeping some pets for foraging in all the areas

[soft crescent]

I've actually been following that and even have 2 gem shop egg upgrades. It's mostly been slow to unlock more pets. I probably need to put more time into grinding some W1&2 dna strands

[clever maple]

then yeah, if putting pets in the fenceyard dosent help that much, then go for gen splicing

[soft crescent]

I've got the next w1 on 1 in 88 chance and w2 is 1 in 66. Haven't gotten them in 2 days 🤷‍♂️

[clever maple]

breadability slows down really fast

and without vman enchantment for bm, it is really slow

[soft crescent]

Yeah, I'll take the opportunity to go grind out the w2 recipe.

[clever maple]

yeah, if you didnt work on a personal+family dr obols

oh btw biggest buff you could go for is rift

[pliant ferry]

3rd reward on rift is gigantic

[clever maple]

yeah

all skill card get passive = better sampling = can start to 3d print for bubble

[soft crescent]

I've got the family tab + half a personal on bronze pop obols. I need to finish this out. My DR on ES is 5.42 right now.

Do you think I can get even close to that? The damage required for rift seems a bit high for me at the moment.

[clever maple]

id suggest to work first for dice obols, it gives the most of the dr

[soft crescent]

That would be DK on sandy pots, correct?

[clever maple]

yeah, so you can farm for glass shard

but first id suggest to reach 4star on poop and genie card (for better crystal chance

• PO drop (crystal chance)

[soft crescent]

That's actually a topic I've been struggling with. Since I can't PO farm yet (and probably not for a long time) it's really difficult to decide where to put my PO points. Especially ES, bubo, DK have too many priorities 🙂

[clever maple]

i think on all of them (bubo/dk) the priority is PO drop

the dr + crystal spawn chance is good

[soft crescent]

Bubo feels like he wants mana for the timer reduction, alch for reasons and drop for crystal. Hard to decide where to go first.

[clever maple]

work first with dk, after you farm some pens with him you could start think PO for each char

[soft crescent]

But I guess you're right. Getting more crystals means I get more pens which means I get all of it quicker.

[clever maple]

yeah

[soft crescent]

Welp, I guess my current boxes are a bit screwy but no sense in crying over spilled milk or something 🙂

[clever maple]

for your bubo you need to fill the PO of: mana, drop and alchemy

then fight and dmg PO

[clever maple]

just do some dk farming for those pens and obols

[soft crescent]

I've been doing fighting on everyone and am just now switching over to skilling on most.
Instead I'll switch to drops on DK/Bubo.

[strong nexus]

well got my 1b skull death note unlock but now im stuck on the new rift (75 on the pirate flag

[soft crescent]

Thank you for all the help @clever maple ! Really appreciate having someone to talk all this stuff through instead of just reading a bunch of IE reviews to try to figure all of it out on my own 🙂

[clever maple]

for this one use vman enchantment for sb, if you didnt

[clever maple]

there is someone that could do a better listing, but it comes with a roast

[clever maple]

btw the next big step/upgrade will be rift 16 for the skill mastery

and i suggest to work on it bc you will have to do some afk kills on rift 10,15,20,... that takes time

[soft crescent]

I don't mind a roast 😛

[clever maple]

when you see ace ask

[soft crescent]

What's the rough damage number I need to be able to hit to get there? I couldn't even get to rift 3 because I can't clear the mobs fast enough on my DK...

[clever maple]

maybe the problem is orb skill being too low (less time to kill) and your slash lv being too low (it hit less mobs=slower kills)

[soft crescent]

Yeah. The dk has mostly been parked at divinity so is only level 115. I need to grind some levels to get some damage I think.

[clever maple]

probablly

btw also check for accuracy

dk has the skill that require 1,5x the accuracy to have dmg bonus

[soft crescent]

Ah you mean for 150%. Yeah I usually remember to do it.

[clever maple]

yeah

[soft crescent]

I've increased alchy a bit the last two days. I'll try rift now, maybe it was enough.

[clever maple]

yeah check it

btw idk if you want or need but using IT has some extra reminder in the dashboard + tolls that can be upgraded

[soft crescent]

I'm using both since they seem to be good at different things. https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=CyrikDC. I also use https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/?player=cyrikdc

When I get into something, I get really into something 😉

[bright meteor]

got x12dr on Dk

[clever maple]

dk gets higher dr from orb too

[bright meteor]

Ik

[clever maple]

nice i use both too

[bright meteor]

@frigid swift sleeping today?

[frigid swift]

ya'll sleep?

im farmin wurms aint got time for sleepin

[clever maple]

i need to lower my dmg without having to low my stats, is it possible ?

[pliant ferry]

Can't you CC wurms while you sleep.....

[frigid swift]

i could but im also at work. soooo no sleep

[pliant ferry]

If you are not dreaming of cranium cooking you aren't playing enough

[frigid swift]

dreaming still requires one to sleep.

we dont do that up in here.

[clever maple]

is okey if i close my eyes and open them when my internal clock says the inventory is full ?

[frigid swift]

as long as its correct when it tells you its full

[clever maple]

aight

[bright meteor]

What's your job

[clever maple]

Btw we are talking about doot being the most powerful and useful thing, when we forget that auto loot is like way better

[frigid swift]

Auto Loot > Slug > Chocy chip > Doot

[clever maple]

Yeah

You can get by chance a free doot, but if you dont have auto loot you done

[frigid swift]

work from home

[pliant ferry]

thats so not an answer

[frigid swift]

I work for a telecommunications company

[pliant ferry]

HEY ME TOO

[frigid swift]

not really gonna give more detail than that lol

[pliant ferry]

But what if we work together????? ARE YOU STEVE?!?!?!

[bright meteor]

35 new achievements coming for w6 let's go

[frigid swift]

Joe is that you!

[bright meteor]

I do be cooking

[pliant ferry]

lol got a warning????? what did I say?!?!

sheez W5 chat getting serious

[frigid swift]

oof

[pliant ferry]

Some auto check if you even say a word? That seems pretty bogus..... seriously doubt some mod saw my mesasge and replied to me instantly...

[quasi galleon]

If you read what the warning was for, it's not hard to figure out

[frigid swift]

Hey there fella! o/

[thorn kindle]

bruh how does one continue this dungeon?

[quasi galleon]

Break all the stones on each stage

🪦

[thorn kindle]

what does it mean when they say "miss" only though?

do I need to break them before I finish the challanges?

[pliant ferry]

yeppers

[quasi galleon]

Yes

[thorn kindle]

ty

[quasi galleon]

I actually prefer BM for PD2 simply because it makes that process so much easier

[frigid swift]

I think i tried that dungeon like one time then never went back

[pliant ferry]

accept my DM please! 😁

[quasi galleon]

DM's are open

[bright meteor]

Lol I think after I get all the gifts I'll do dungeon runs

[pliant ferry]

PSA - farming purple cogs and clicking every 4 seconds is way worse than farming kruk necklaces clicking every 15 seconds

[frigid swift]

PSA - Dont forget to check your people if they have the 10 hour prayer on =,=

[pliant ferry]

NEVER

12% experience is not worth it

[frigid swift]

sad days when you get a 20 hour proc for gaming

[pliant ferry]

You cannot hold us accountable for your bad life decisions

[frigid swift]

yes i can

[pliant ferry]

Blame sailing

[bright meteor]

5Q green bits 😴

[frigid swift]

5 green bit club!

[whole rock]

Finally got the crystal custard, my highest drop rate is now up to 8.44x

[bright meteor]

I really need that

And Doot ofc

[frigid swift]

will trade custards for bigger nug

[thorn kindle]

my dmg left the chat on the third part of the dungeon lol

[mint arrow]

once i have the vitalic style on everyone, do i switch to that?

im up to goat god btw

[frigid swift]

Vitalic is good.

[mint arrow]

good enough to replace mantra? i kinda liked the exp

[frigid swift]

yea

[mint arrow]

ok thx!

[short sparrow]

Vitalic is really good if you're trying to get to div 50 for the stamp

[frigid swift]

its also good to rush 60 for Zen

wel... as much as you can rush Div that is

[radiant gazelle]

Recently hit w5, am i kinda just expected to wait with my characters doing divinity-

[pliant ferry]

There is just so much to gain with goat since you need to be in lab anyway

[radiant gazelle]

yeah, and i don't have too much progress in w4 my plan is to start the time-gated stuff in w5 and backtrack

what order is goat unlocked? Currently waiting to get 100% for the 2nd one (bear)

[pliant ferry]

Pretty much everyone is in that same boat :d

Goat is 5th

[radiant gazelle]

oh fun

would you recommend going for the 100% or gambling

[pliant ferry]

million dollar question

It took me weeks to figure out breeding, because I slammed like 7 pets in a row when I first got it

[mint arrow]

is mantra still not faster? even if it doesnt give div points

[pliant ferry]

Ever since then, I'm all for the 1% slams

[echo crag]

depend on how many character you have on altar really

[frigid swift]

yea you would need basically everyone on alter to technically be better. by very little

plus then you gotta play musical chairs to maximize that xp

[mint arrow]

8 of my characters are on goat so i guess the extra div points is better for the 1 less xp/hr

[pliant ferry]

When you hit a 1% it feels amazing, if it takes you 5x as long it feels terrible. When you get enough points for 100% its a sigh of relief. The question is do you like roller coasters or cruise control on the highway

[radiant gazelle]

I just know my luck and would rather just take it safe, unless there's a statistically better way i think ill play it safe

[echo crag]

you'll still ahve to gamble to get that 100% to show up

[frigid swift]

im on the last 2 gods atm kattle and w.,e the last one is and i still do the method where i spam left until right is 100%

The drop rates on this totally are not scewed lol

[pliant ferry]

Different mobs

[bright meteor]

I'm greenstacking those

[echo crag]

dunno what you mean at all quack

[pliant ferry]

but WHY

[echo crag]

only turned the quest on 1 chracter

so all other are still farming it

[bright meteor]

I might do that lol I really need the stamps

[strong nexus]

is the talent that give kill by kill make my item drop faster?

[surreal ember]

Eventually equinox when you need 200 items green stacked

[pliant ferry]

300m is well beyond green stack...

[surreal ember]

Ketchup mustard bottles Goodric paintings stats from tp Pete those 3 etc forgot the rest time thingys aswell

Oh I thiught you meant why gstack in the first place

[bright meteor]

Is ur Idleon name same as here?

[pliant ferry]

Nope, my names in game are all screwy to helps friends with quests that no longer play 🫠

[bright meteor]

Doesn't it start with S or P

[frigid swift]

lol i did a S and P name to help people who need it

back in the day tons of people were asking around for them so i was like alr ill help

[mint arrow]

goofy quest ngl

[bright meteor]

My characters are Naci, Naci v2, Naci v3, Naci v4, Naci v5, Naci v6, Naci v7, Naci v8, Naci v9, Naci v10.

[soft crescent]

I could use the S and P if you have a few mins

[bright meteor]

pretty unique names

[surreal ember]

I wonder what you'll call 11 and 12

[frigid swift]

Ican and Ican v2

[bright meteor]

idk maybe Naci v11 and Naci v12?

[bright meteor]

help me

[soft crescent]

Same 🙂

[surreal ember]

Watched a video on the questline once the guy in the vid totally didn't make a smurf

[frigid swift]

Cake 17. W2 town.

[surreal ember]

Can you green stacks the S and P ratings that would be the most disgusting dedication

[bright meteor]

first time to ever meet lol

[undone wagon]

You can green stack Anything that is stackable

But who would want to...

[pliant ferry]

FALSE!

[surreal ember]

I have a new quest

[pliant ferry]

Stackable, unable to greenstack 🙂

[soft crescent]

thank you!

[frigid swift]

np

[pliant ferry]

Yes I kept them, but jokes on you when you need them for the bestest ring in the game

[mint arrow]

why do you still have those lol

[pliant ferry]

I bet you asked the same thing to people who kept stop watches!!!!

[mint arrow]

lmao

[bright meteor]

How accurate is that lol

[mint arrow]

if ive got it in the slab and i cant greenstack it, i throw it out

or sell it for the disrespect

ok maybe that condition is a little broad but you get it

[pliant ferry]

Said to someone who keeps the things the game literally tells you to throw away

[frigid swift]

bro thats why my bank is so full. i be hoarding. it took me like a year just to finally get rid of my rune trimmed pants out of my bank

[mint arrow]

another mans treasure

[undone wagon]

Fr

[pliant ferry]

I'll gladly revisit this discussion in 14 years when he shuts down the servers and as a going away present you can upgrade thm

[mint arrow]

most accurate lava prediction

lava can never trusted

delete that message before he sees it and gets any ideas

[pliant ferry]

Teach you to throw things away!

[undone wagon]

Tell me their names I wanna get these treasures...

Except the broken weapon..

[mint arrow]

is broken weapon etc only 1 per account?

[pliant ferry]

They are from the treasure hunt quest

[mint arrow]

like is it from an account quest i forgot

[pliant ferry]

Yes, the whole quest chain is 1 per account

hoard
like
a
dragon

[pliant ferry]

lmao!

[mint arrow]

you are so jealous

[pliant ferry]

I have stuff stored on everyones final bag slot because I have a problem

Everyone just has 4 bags 🤷‍♂️

[mint arrow]

[undone wagon]

I have my Vman’s first bag full of skilling armors

[pliant ferry]

See, I'm completely normal

[undone wagon]

Yea

And on every character at least 3 statue types

Cuz I’m broke and can’t afford W6 chests

[bright meteor]

I could only afford 1 for now

the 2nd one soon

[pliant ferry]

I boguht 2, that 3 one is spicey. 2 coins I've never seen

[bright meteor]

I was like godshard is endgame before w6

but you couldn't see more than 99 coins in the game

[tender pine]

should i link to harriep to farm mats for atoms

[sour totem]

how do I spawn the new boss?

[bright meteor]

miniboss you mean?

[sour totem]

yeah

[tender pine]

if you mean world 5 go to ||mr. brightsides and walk over the rocks||

for world 6 i have no clue

[bright meteor]

you need to kill all mama trolls and stand on the tombstone

[sour totem]

ok sweet

can I still build up dk orb on other maps then swap

[junior arrow]

no

needs to be done on the same map

[frigid swift]

i try to remember to do orb but then i forget. or the one time i did do it i still accidentally summoned him with like 47 kills on orb

[outer thorn]

in world five, i droped Molten Core Knucklers (Recipe), but i miss click and use tallent Telekinetic Storage, and never drop again, how fix this ?

[frigid swift]

would it not be in your storage then?

[outer thorn]

no 😦

[frigid swift]

show your suggma card. like this

[outer thorn]

yes

[sharp vine]

Probably the most tragic idleon thing I've ever read tbh

[frigid swift]

if recipe still shows on card it can still drop

[sharp vine]

He said he dropped it, I assume on the ground, and then it evaporated with the Storage talent because it clears all items not in inventory

[frigid swift]

ohhh. ive never used that talent so idk how it works lol thats why i asked about his card

[outer thorn]

yes, exact

how drop screenshot here ?

[olive drift]

Rank up

By talking

[frigid swift]

!image

[obtuse orbit]

Why can't I send images?

For moderation purposes, images are not able to be sent until you reach the Copper Bar - Lv.1 (Lv.3 for #1073780959087964210 ). To level up in the discord, just hang out and talk for a bit. Every minute, you will get xp as long as you sent a message. Spamming will not level you up faster, so please don't do it. Try !rank in #bot-commands to see what level you are.

[outer thorn]

I wanted to show my sad situation

If anyone can help me, I will be eternally grateful

[olive drift]

Keep talking

[outer thorn]

I spent many, many hours with several dolls trying to drop it but it doesn't drop again

[olive drift]

Look at your XP in #bot-commands with !rank

[outer thorn]

sad

I love this game, but it's dragging me down in the evolution of not being able to recover this item

[junior arrow]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
so does your card look exactly like this as well?

[outer thorn]

It appears as if I already had the item

[junior arrow]

!recipedrop

[obtuse orbit]

Recipe drops are a bit different from the other drops when you view them on your card. If the recipe is black, it means you have never picked up a recipe from that anvil tab. If your recipe is lit up it means you have found one from that anvil tab, lucky you! However, if you learn a recipe, that specific recipe will no longer be displayed at all on that monsters card.

[pliant ferry]

Wait... quack is that your card? o.o

[outer thorn]

i drop more than 5401 cards

all drops collorful

suggma

[frigid swift]

yea thats the card on my bubo

[junior arrow]

this is a common concern people have cause it lights up like other items it looks like you had it, but thats only because recipes for each world have the same item, so they all light up for each one in that world

[frigid swift]

So it still shows recipe on your card yes?

[pliant ferry]

Oh riiiight... one recipe shows all

[sharp vine]

Which of these does it look like on your Suggma card?

[outer thorn]

identical

colorful

[sharp vine]

The right one?

[junior arrow]

if the recipe is still showing on the card, it means you dont have it

[sharp vine]

If you see the Right version @outer thorn You haven't gotten that recipe yet

[paper sail]

!recipedrop

[obtuse orbit]

Recipe drops are a bit different from the other drops when you view them on your card. If the recipe is black, it means you have never picked up a recipe from that anvil tab. If your recipe is lit up it means you have found one from that anvil tab, lucky you! However, if you learn a recipe, that specific recipe will no longer be displayed at all on that monsters card.

[sharp vine]

Guys stop linking that to him I'm assuming he doesn't speak english

It's probably too much for him to translate easily