lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[unreal yacht]

Im working on leveling loot ambition now since I got 2nd char

[night locust]

i got 2 days no loots, some says we need to less claim it, it stacks

[unreal yacht]

Oh for real dammm

Maybe I’ll stop checking sneaking much

[night locust]

i just claim alot, then try again tom, got some +7 nunchucks

its just bad rng

[unreal yacht]

Dam seems like it

Guess we just gotta keep pushing floors and leveling up skills

[late grotto]

Does this count the giant prayer active?

[night locust]

yup 1 pusher 1 farming nunchucks

[night locust]

some say it doesnt, dont use it, prayer curse isnt that much a big deal

[gentle furnace]

No and this is BAD

[pearl quail]

Ok thank u

[dreamy folio]

anyone have a spredsheet for choppin?

[granite charm]

how much damage on my ES for kruk?

[agile pagoda]

eventually my snake vial will reach 100%...

[oak bolt]

why are suggmas so strong

[neat umbra]

me evolving into banana with my sole spot before realising what is happening

[true oasis]

they are not

[pearl nest]

how much damage is needed to kill w5 boss using bererker (melee) btw

[agile pagoda]

yikes

honestly it's probably the hardest class to do it on besides VM

it doesnt have a reliable AoE, only good single target dps

[granite charm]

how much for ES

[waxen zenith]

Hello 🙂 can sb please tell me what the "rarest treasure" is, which the pirate pig wants?

[reef plank]

Should've got a 20% damage bonus According to the artifact description

[safe tangle]

40m

[rapid locust]

At what point do you turn off Kitsune?

[prime stone]

stuff from the last island I think

[waxen zenith]

@prime stone so this would be the green "o's"?

[granite charm]

omg I have enough

Just one map away

[granite charm]

needs to refresh

[prime stone]

the rare one of the 2 you can get there

[waxen zenith]

@prime stone ty. But my quest log Shows another number than my loot pile. That's confusing me.

[prime stone]

uhh no idea why that could be the case sorry

[uneven citrus]

is there a guide for the most optimal cog setup?

[vital grove]

when trying to get eldritch artifacts on all the starting islands, is there a case where you want to use the "minimum chest" rarity feature? or do I just keep on on the lowest one since I have siege breaker "unending loot search" anyways?

thanks in advance! ^^

[prime stone]

depends on how often u check sailing but you usually don't wanna use unending loot

[cyan mantle]

Yo ninto I got a question

[vital grove]

wait why's that

[prime stone]

if you got it turned off and your loot pile is full your captains wait with another chest at the dock, so u get way more chests instead of maybe a few upgraded ones

but again depends on how often u check

[vital grove]

makes sense I get it, but what about the minimum chest rarity?

[teal lynx]

Lowest you can

Not worth trading in a chance for chests if they basically give the same amount of chance for an artifact

[prime stone]

wooden chest usually best, mayb iron if you only check once a day

but put back to wooden before claiming so you get alle the chests from waiting captains

[vital grove]

yeah thought so, but just wanted to ask to make sure I wasn't missing out on something with it by never using it/having it at minimum
thanks both of u

[spice widget]

then ask

[cyan mantle]

Does maestro's damage increase alot when he get vman or not really

[teal lynx]

The indirect damage increase of 4th hit + making the other 3 punches more powerful is pretty good
And then you get another skill, which does massive damage and some Talents, which you might not be able to abuse if you just unlocked Vman

So overall I would say good damage increase, but not too much sheet damage

[spice widget]

well 4th punch go brr

[dusky galleon]

best cards for afk farming?

[zinc torrent]

Fighting afk gains, dmg%, mk per tier%

[gray arrow]

any1 have complete the kattletruck quest 10 here?

[zinc torrent]

many people here have that done

[hidden loom]

Is it better to farm active with dk or bubo on citringe ?

And Can I filtre the cristal stamps while farming

[teal lynx]

What is your goal?
CC = Bubo
Statues = DK

If you don't want the Crystal stamp, then finish the quest on the last map of W1. That's the reason you are getting crystal stamps in the first place

And if you can then try Wurms (W5) vs Citringes. There comes a point, where that is a better map than citringes

[hidden loom]

Thanks a lot, what do you mean by cc ?

[teal lynx]

Cranium Cooking. The only reason you play Bubo 😅

[hidden loom]

I never truly thought about it 😭

Thanks you so much for the intel

[teal lynx]

All good. I didn't know the acronyms when I started out. I was confused by the standard DK, BB, Bubo, ES for a good day

[warm pike]

bug found?

[true oasis]

do better eggs give more xp

[proven basin]

[true oasis]

hyy lath whats up

[paper mist]

is there actually a way to reduce minimum sailing time or is lava just trolling?

[west flint]

bit overwhelmed on W5

I got all 10 characters up to the 2nd divinity god and I've just been ignoring divinity

been mostly using 2-3 to push W5 (for gold too), and the rest to farm enough resources for the post office orders

[paper mist]

if you havent been at w5 long its worth shoving everyone on the altar for a few weeks

[west flint]

any particular milestone I "have" to reach?

I know the 2nd god is pretty good cause I can finally enjoy lab benefits without having all of them afk in lab, I assume theres some nth god that's really good too?

[teal lynx]

The SB Family Bonus and some shiny pets in W4 give reduced sailing time
I'm down to 97 minutes

[west flint]

been mostly trying to get the 23rd yellow bubble, I heard thats another huge bump in cooking speed

thats the diamond plate one iirc

[teal lynx]

That's bubble 18

[west flint]

I must have mis counted then, bubble 18 is what I meant then

also when should I try to do the vman quest? I got em to level 150, he's afking green mushrooms for now cuz I know I need to kill 12mil on em

idk if I should put most of my toons to help do the 1M deathnote W1 W2 W3, or if I should focus on getting to W6 lol

rn only the BB is helping out with the deathnote stuff cuz I need to do zow on 'em

[teal lynx]

I can't tell you that. But you might be pretty early to W6 if you haven't even unlocked Vman yet
And the only thing you need for W5 boss is an ES/DK at like 20m damage. So look at your stats now and see if you could kill the boss

[gloomy dust]

Do you mean the world 5 boss?

[teal lynx]

yes, what else?

[gloomy dust]

No, you just said for the world 6 boss, so it sounded confusing

[west flint]

ES is doing 5.4M to 15.3M dmg

[teal lynx]

Oh yeah. Mistyped

[sleek valve]

any good way to increase ladle per h ?

[gloomy dust]

No worries, just wanted to clarify

[west flint]

there's the boots and cooking specific ring I think?

[sleek valve]

already equpied

and only 373 per h

[teal lynx]

Ladle Stamp, Afk gain%, cooking rings vs rex rings (rex rings are better at a certain point). IS Trophy + Doubler, Cards + Doublers, Zerg prayer, right star signs + doublers

Multitool stamp is also great

[sleek valve]

okay thanks laot

[west flint]

I've kinda been rushing through the worlds, so I barely did W4 stuff too lol

[oak bolt]

after unlocking bear, i should take out people from meditation?

[halcyon sluice]

The recommended path is to go all the way to goat god

[teal lynx]

Check the Pins for a detailed guide. But you wanna go for Goharut

[halcyon sluice]

But honestly if you feel like you’re lacking in prints/class lvl/something by A LOT then you can link them to bear for a bit, do some backtracking and then come back to get to goat god

[quiet plaza]

I gues theres no way to cheese this without snelbie? need to get whales on that slot asap

[hidden loom]

Why do bubo reanimate spell doesnt automatically activate sometime and let you stuck

[teal lynx]

You have something on your Bar that's not supposed to be there
Your Bar should only be Cranium Cooking, Raise Dead, Aura and Ghost

[hidden loom]

Oh thanks again you will literally teach me everything today X)

[paper mist]

what IS the thing that does that though? i have the same issue but im actually curious as to what causes this

[teal lynx]

Most commonly. Fireball, Blue lighting from mage, teleport, dice roll star talent (not 100% sure about that one), syringe skill in Bubo tab

Maybe the dice roll only delayed the casts instead of stopping it

Most optimal skill order for bubo only uses those 4 skills I said above. So it shouldn't be an issue if you use the meta build

[paper mist]

i have everything except dice on my own hotbar

[teal lynx]

Yeah 😅
Best to just remove most of it. You only need revive for obvious reasons, aura for quick kills and ghost to spread poison and kill things for 'far away' enemies

[prime stone]

should look smth like this

[paper mist]

is there a reason for aura before revive?

[prime stone]

there probably is- I just followed someone elses setup for CC at wurms xD xaya probably knows

[teal lynx]

I do revive before aura. But I also heard people getting more progress with Aura before revive

Probably an individual case. Just gotta test it a few times

[prime stone]

Oh good to know- how much CC time do you usually get?

[teal lynx]

Last time on wurms it was something like 400k-420k (Without Arctis)
But I didn't do too much CC in the last month. Was fully focused on plunder kills pre W6

[short sparrow]

So wait I've had canister on my bar, will I get more cc time without using canister?

[teal lynx]

Canister depends on the Map - Things like Flombeiges and Moustaches might be better with Canisters. But overall canisters take away the ability to cast raise dead from time to time. So overall you should lose a little with canister on the bar

[next locust]

Canisters may also add to the lag somewhat

[gaunt nymph]

whats the best setup for spice territory?

[spice widget]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[long siren]

Was there any change in w5 recipes with the update?

Patch notes don't mention any

[crimson comet]

As far as I know, sugar usage is enabled in W5.

I can't kill the world 5 boss. Does anyone have the build?

[night locust]

you need to 1hit kill those moles

bubo aura is very good

[slate vector]

The last one will be finished later today :)))

[warm kelp]

Nice! im far behind

[slate vector]

shame most of those slots will be empty for a long long time

[night locust]

theres no such far behind, play at your own pace

[warm kelp]

I love a little competition

[rancid orchid]

how many ~min damage on SB u need to kill 5w boss?

[proven iron]

Maybe if my guys in sneaking find anything in like... a few days with 6% chance, then i'll be able to jump back into at least some competition

[drowsy sand]

Im still trying to get to w5 boss and get enough damage to kill him

Is a trophy reccommended

[unreal linden]

Looking for someone who would be willing to maybe voice chat with me and give me a breakdown of goals I can start pushing and things I’m slacking or doing good on

[slate vector]

@unreal linden use this tool, it is very helpful to paint a picture for you. https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

[unreal linden]

ty

[toxic saddle]

There are a couple people in our gc who would be willing to join a vc atm

[slate vector]

Assuming you are using IT/IE to get the JSON to put in there

[toxic saddle]

Just gotta ask

[unreal linden]

I am

[slate vector]

Yeah give that tool a shot first

[severe trout]

Does it matter to which god i am linked with (for passives or such) if i have Doot Pet?

[unreal linden]

No you get all passives

[warm kelp]

Cant wait for my doot..

[sick sentinel]

Purrmep still needs a link to work right, so link it to ur highest div lvl character

And only qol for IE, consider linking bear to ur other chars so that your lab looks completely active and your numbers line up

[drowsy sand]

I just did wellington quest with a 14 letter character

absolute nightmare

though it was made more manageble by dropping stacks of 10 on the ground

as in like 10 1 stacks in inv

and i also did it 1st try

was pretty suprised by that

[kindred dagger]

I could use a little help with the first W6 spice battle. Using rattler, flashy, defender, refiller, mono, refiller. Once I get to a certain point, the pet animations grind to a halt, and the countdown for the next mono starts to take about ten seconds per second. Letting it sit for ten minutes will get me seven minutes of desync, and the only way I can get out of the battle is to close the whole game. Is this happening to any of you guys?

[flat wasp]

Are magma fists essential to taking out w5 chaotic? I'm at 2100 roysn urns and still no recipe. My Mman is my 7th guy and i feel like I've been stopped dead on progress trying ty get those so he can kill W5 chaotic and i can complete the 7 in a row task and get the rest of the recipes for my other guys.

[kindred dagger]

No. I just got the recipe yesterday, but I killed chaotic with him a month ago.

[flat wasp]

Kn I'll go find a guide and see wtf I'm doing wrong. No problem in the rest and at 398 I'd think i should be able to do it.

[kindred dagger]

I had 3b damage when I did it. Gear doesn't matter. It's all alchemy, stamps, etc. He was also on lvl 285, just to show you how much that also doesn't matter.

[lime fractal]

yo that tool just called me early w4, ow

[drowsy sand]

just got oblivion in idle skilling! Lets hope for the best with the arcade balls

[short sparrow]

Hmm.. I've started using the atom collider, let's see how this goes

[night locust]

focus on chopping 3d prints

[upbeat galleon]

Hey guys, I have a quick question. I thought I saw somewhere that there’s a sailing perk that lets them upgrade their chests, or something like that? Am I bugging or is this a thing now?

[night locust]

this one?

[upbeat galleon]

No, the one I thought I saw was something like: instead of piling up on docks they start upgrading the next chest

[young valley]

Is this not the ability of the Class?

[night locust]

oh sb talent, unending loot

[upbeat galleon]

How did I miss that 🤦🏽‍♂️ thanks guys!

[night locust]

dont use it if you claim your loots frequently, only use it when you claim 1x a day or less

if you rushing to get artifacts dont use it

[upbeat galleon]

I kinda figured

I did want to “rush” some artifacts I’m missing but you can’t really make it go faster can you?

[night locust]

silver chest + stocking piles of loots is good for rolling artifacts

[gaunt nymph]

no but you stockpile less chests if you dont claim every 2 hours or smth

[upbeat galleon]

Ahh okay, thanks again! You guys are super helpful

[night locust]

cheers bruh

[gaunt nymph]

🙂

[teal inlet]

is a dk supposed to farm actively?

[gaunt nymph]

yes

[teal inlet]

ah ok

[steep kiln]

Yeeah any help here would be really appreciated. My HP is lower than what I get just from these two tallents?

[gaunt nymph]

do you have smth on, that reduces HP?

[teal lynx]

DK's respawn ability is kinda bugged right now. So maybe you need to wait a patch to start active playing dk more

[steep kiln]

I've changed nothing and suddenly getting one shot. All I did was level up some lab with red pearls

And it's on all my characters I think

Like I should have more than 1800 hp

Even tried talent respec, added back in HP and it adds in less than it should. It's almost like my berserker talent is applying to everyone

[teal lynx]

Cloudsave. Log into each char and enter a dungeon (don't need to start, just enter the dungeon area) and see if that does anything
This way you atleast get rid of any buff that might apply

[steep kiln]

Tried that, logged everyone into frog map with many cloud saves. Some characters have a normal looking amount of HP and others dont still

nvm figured it out, somehow the -80% hp star sign was allocated to a few people even tho I don't recall ever using that one

was making me go crazy there

[night locust]

foods, use w6 foods

and check prayers

[unreal yacht]

should i be saving up statues for onxy right away or is it ok to deposit them into my gold statues?

[night locust]

you got choco chip?

[unreal yacht]

or it doesnt m atter im confused on that tbh

Yes

[night locust]

then deposit, w1-w2 statues

[unreal yacht]

when should i worry about onxy?

[night locust]

w4 too

[unreal yacht]

i was hoarding them cuz of that

[night locust]

if you can get to 10k easy then onyx it

[unreal yacht]

if not... then depsoit them right

[night locust]

yup

[unreal yacht]

i have some statues that was hoarrded from a long time should i save for onxy?

or just use em

[flat forge]

Onyx is worth it imo

[night locust]

dk farm at w3 or w2, onyx some of it

[flat forge]

ES for W3, not dk right?

[unreal yacht]

yeah im just wondering if im wasting them by not save them for onyx rn

[flat forge]

For the trapping/seesaw/twosoul statues

[unreal yacht]

Oh i thought we use DK for all statues farm

[night locust]

the ram mobs, not those trapping/seesaw/twosoul statues, those are pure pain

[flat forge]

Yes, and horrible with DK, so please use ES

It still took me days but eh, worth it

[night locust]

i mean the statue you get from rams

[unreal yacht]

what about the crystal mobs?

[night locust]

its faster

[unreal yacht]

dont they drop it if so dk is best right?

[flat forge]

Farm those with DK

[unreal yacht]

ahh okay

[flat forge]

Get as high of a DR as you can

I suggest waiting till you have at least 10x droprate

[unreal yacht]

ima save this ty

welp looks liek w3 is ES didnt know

[night locust]

its good if you got high dmg and dr

[unreal yacht]

so active es is best then candys

[flat forge]

Dont candy for the love of god

You'll be wasting so many hours of candy

[unreal yacht]

yeah im save em for sure

ima active all the way

[night locust]

whats your es dmg atm?

[unreal yacht]

Oh wow pots are the best

for w2 oh uhhh like close to 100m

I can prob get more i havent really focuses on gear yet tbh

prob get to 200m if i tried maybe

[night locust]

dont farm w3 specific statue then

focus on w1 w2

[unreal yacht]

yeah im wait until im way stronger

I might onyx the base damage statues then

[night locust]

for ex. mine 230 portal kills

[unreal yacht]

w3 going take forever

[warm kelp]

is idleon wiki down?

ah it loaded now

[night locust]

Ikr

[unreal yacht]

mines loading kinda slow

[warm kelp]

okay.. yeah its very slow

oh damn.. I need 50 nugget cakes in 6 days

[night locust]

Es it

[unreal yacht]

ez if u got decent drop rate and use es

[warm kelp]

max drop rate i can get is 7x, maybe 8 if I upgrade the prayer I unlocked

[unreal yacht]

Nahh i dont think prayer worth it

[warm kelp]

okay

[unreal yacht]

that shoudl be decent

just active es u will get it

[pale crag]

Don't use dr prayer on es

It reduces the portal kills

[warm kelp]

oh wow they also drop drop chance obols 😄

[manic moat]

how do I get the 2 minute afk gains to pop up on rams in the equinox map? I waited over 2 minutes and it didn't work.

[fading plover]

I don't think it's a thing anymore

[manic moat]

no more zows?

[fading plover]

I think lava removed it

[zinc torrent]

I have a feeling W5 is better with double voidinator to avoid purple leaks, is it cause my voidinator is below lvl 10, or stunning waves sometimes last longer than timer for next wave? (Tower Defense question)

[night locust]

What guide you following at w5 td?

And do you have the equinox buff for td?

[warm kelp]

wow u guys were right.. already at 10 nugget cakes

[rich cosmos]

Now I'm in w5, anything I should work towards?

[toxic saddle]

Doot?

Either way. Go to divinity

[rich cosmos]

Aight thanks

[toxic saddle]

Do you have doot?

[rich cosmos]

Nah not yet

[toxic saddle]

Tragic

[uneven estuary]

Should I switch all my characters (except pusher) to Goharut once I unlock him?

[short sparrow]

Same

Thought not quite that bad

[cerulean hemlock]

Who even needs doot? :3

[teal lynx]

You got slug. You are already blessed
Slug > Doot

[teal inlet]

i got the third molti just now

[urban fossil]

should i set i minimum chest in sailing?

[tidal ice]

more chests > better chests

same reason why sb talent isnt used

[urban fossil]

cool

thanks

[rocky kelp]

is there a speedrun build for vman talents?

[strong oxide]

cosmic horror lovecraft cat, first one finally

[urban fossil]

how can i get my artifact chance up?

[echo crag]

fauxory tusk artefact, else its in W6

[teal inlet]

where does this portal go in void ore?

cant enter it for some reason

[echo crag]

probably not implanted

[teal inlet]

ok

[sage latch]

there's a second portal unlocked at lvl 60 for starfire

[teal inlet]

ah ok found it down at lustre area

[urban fossil]

the only artifact from the first island that i didnt get

[echo crag]

yeah will help once you get it, in the mean time make sure your SB got the +sailing xp talent maxed out when you check sailing

[pure horizon]

Guys i need help

Im pushing through world 5 but the only character i can push on is DK. Because my other characters survivability rate is so low

[upbeat dome]

Anyone have that image of solar frosts sneaking guide? Need a specific thing from it

[echo crag]

check the w6 mini guide thread, i belive its in there somewhere

[upbeat dome]

ty

Also mb i clicked on thr wrong channel

Meant to say this in w6 haha

[echo crag]

have you been working on your stamps, i know something that helped with my survival was getting the hp stamps some level so that hemo would heal more, obviously getting more fmj/defence will help too

[bitter jacinth]

because of sb skill , so i still hvnt complete collect all artifacts ?

[echo crag]

because the odds of artifact is abysmal its better better to claim every cycle if you can

like the SB skill only become equal to it around 24h claims

[bitter jacinth]

unlucky. o.o

[echo crag]

yeah it gets annoying

at least lava added some more artifact chance find bonus in w6 as well as with shiny pets in breeding

[bitter jacinth]

i unlocked eldritch artifact early, but still 0 found

[echo crag]

yeah they are painfull to get but worth it in most cases

should try to get that fury unlocked asap since that lots of power being getting those skills to max

[bitter jacinth]

yes im focusing on fury and first island more than a month , but unlucky

[echo crag]

have you unlocked w6 yet ?

[bitter jacinth]

unlocked

[echo crag]

get that sneaking high enough so you can buy the new lab node for better artifact chance

[toxic saddle]

I was more so saying. If you have doot then you don’t need to stay there as long early on

[cerulean hemlock]

Yeah, I know! Just joking ^^

[toxic saddle]

[calm pine]

does the golden stopwatch, that you can claim from the weekly boss in the w2 hub, any type of weekly reset and what are unaffected if any?

[teal lynx]

No weekly reset

You are not going forward in time by 24 hours. You get no progress on chars, your time isn't gonna go forward 24 hours. It just gives you all the benefits of a daily reset (which is a lot and it's really good)

[modern mortar]

So whats about the min damage i should have to finish w5 boss on bubbo? Reached it last night with 11-23M damage but oef

[tidal pagoda]

hello how do I create a new account

[unreal linden]

Is this gaming skill even worth doing?

[left magnet]

early sailing, how long should I ignore loot to focus speed on 1st boat?

[calm pine]

thanks that clarifies a lot

[unreal linden]

Man my journeyman is still only lvl 19 alchemy
this takes forever to get to 25 lmfao

[faint niche]

hi friens

[wooden elk]

Just got my final Eldritch! Sailing is no longer my best friend, new friendship started with Sneaking.

[unreal linden]

Whats the best early world for bubo cranium cooking?

[teal lynx]

W3 Moustaches -> W4 Soda Cans -> W4 Flombeiges -> W5 Citringes -> W5 Wurms is what I know of

[unreal linden]

ty

[teal lynx]

Hey Navi 👋
If you need any help or just want to chat a little feel free to ping me or ask in W6 chat! Most people you know/helped you went there
I will still look at this Chat from time to time ^^

[edgy charm]

Wanting world 6 armor and tools but getting bottlenecked by troll armor crafting mats, pearler shards and hampters. What’s the best course of action to get these quickly?

[faint niche]

Alright! I figured thats where everyone went off to

[rough wasp]

Nah you’re stuck here.

Imprisoned in fact.

[teal lynx]

You could use Candies if you got plenty of them
Otherwise the fastest for Pearler Shells, Gold Twines, Cooking Clogs and Hampters is actively playing ES
The Nullo salt either comes with time or from using the Omniphau god in Divinity
For the Starfire bars you want to put your archers at Gmush with the Talent "Smeltin Erryday" leveled and claim afk gains on them every 2 minutes / You can use a 1 hour candy for the same result

[teal lynx]

My mum says otherwise
She said I'm allowed to leave whenever I like

[frail cosmos]

Is it worth pushing God rank in divinity ?

[teal lynx]

We already saw a not implemented W6 bonus that says ||1.05x higher god bonuses for every God Rank you have||
So if you think that's worth go for it. I personally got to God Rank 4 on my journey to lvl 155 divinity on all my chars (and I'm still not 100% done with that)

[agile pagoda]

I can't wait for lava do add an item so we can change class...

Cause the boss one is literally impossible on my journeyman

[soft patio]

Should Kitsune Roxie be turned on or off in Gaming?

[zinc bison]

I have it turned on, the loss in bits is more than made up for with plant evolutions, squirrel, etc.

[snow dove]

back on the game for w6, no idea what i'm supposed to do lmao

[rocky shore]

finally got a good gold roll (was ~185k)

[flint merlin]

what shoud i lvl first in the Merit shop?

[vague horizon]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[flint merlin]

star is last?

[vague horizon]

Star = depending if you already unlocked atom collider or not

[flint merlin]

ah

thx

[rocky shore]

its doable
managed to clear it with my vman but it took a lot longer mostly because you have to prioritize pulling back mobs with indiana attack/ attacking with auto then hitting void radius to clear large groups and hitting boss in between waves with auto attacks/coin toss

[snow dove]

any idea of what i should be doing at this point ? https://melbot.idleonefficiency.com

[ivory wind]

My dk has started to struggle getting more kills active than afk at cheese nubs on w5, Only way to make this better is more damage right?. should i just give up ojn active for now hes only at 3M damagae

[frail cosmos]

Is God rank worth pushing? Considering high cost ?

[rocky kelp]

about how much dmg should Blood barb have to tackle nightmare kattlekruk?

[hard cape]

Does the chance ever get higher then 3.6?

[glass quail]

don't save, spam them

100 clicks of 0.5% better that 1 click of 3%

[hard cape]

yeah that makes sense. Thanks 🙂

didn't think about it that way

[grim atlas]

lol, i just unlocked the goat god with a 1% chance

[agile pagoda]

Vman yes... Journeyman's gonna be a lot harder

[paper sail]

Check out the recommendations at the top in the Pinchy Review. Those are the quickest improvements you could make. Do those, update your public IE, and refresh the tool to get updated recommendations 🙂

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/?player=melbot

[prisma drift]

Does the bot have w6 goals yet

[agile pagoda]

And I dont wanna risk evolving him cause if Lava announces an item to change class and it only works for journeymen I'll forever be stuck with 2 VM

[prisma drift]

Is it gonna pinchy my farming and sneaking

[paper sail]

Not yet, no. Still forbidden by Lava to share spoilers

[prisma drift]

I will await my pinchy

[paper sail]

I'm so close to finishing the UI uplift. I was hoping to finish today but the baby is having a rough teething day. No sleep, no quiet, no concentration. Hopefully by the weekend before I go back to work lol

I'm hyped to get to work on new things, not just prettying up old things

[prisma drift]

[agile pagoda]

Is No pain no gain even worth it?

[glass quail]

very

[agile pagoda]

I thought having high hp increased your damage output

How high should the skill level be?

[glass quail]

easy damage with easy to offset survivability drawback which barbs don't struggle with much in the first place

max

[agile pagoda]

Nice

What's the best way to get a lucky lad trophy with Vman?

[glass quail]

candy tropilogs

[paper sail]

Candying Godshard, Dreadlo, or Tropilogs with the highest action speed (62/min), highest AFK, and highest DR you can muster

Real AFK is fine too. Doesn't have to be candy

[glass quail]

if chopping speed is isn't quite at max mining godshard is better due to pearl helping

[stiff swan]

My vman only getting like 36k fishing exp per hour. Lvl 50 fishing. 900k efficiency. Feel like im missing something. Have a lot of bubbles unlocked, at like rift 22. The clothing to boost efficiency. Cards. Stamps

What do

[warm pike]

!catchchart

[warm pike]

W

[dense jacinth]

I lost the recipe and I've killed 100 million and I haven't got it again, whats the problem?

[wind umbra]

even if recipes are colored it doesn't mean you got it. When a recipe is colored, it only means that you have gotten a recipe from that anvil rank

[wise vault]

what does the weather book do

[dense jacinth]

so I'm basicall having very bad luck

[wind umbra]

?

[wind umbra]

maybe it depends on your mk and dr

[dense jacinth]

5x drop rate

[wind umbra]

probs a bit unlucky

[sick sentinel]

gotta remember that drops that arent the main drop (top left on card) arent affected by multikill or kpk sources

[wind umbra]

rare drops arent affected by mk so even if it says youve killed 100m you might have just killed 10m of them for real

[dense jacinth]

oh

should I go active then?

[sick sentinel]

a good way to compare you drop luck is by looking are your royal urns, "expected" rate is 1000 urns to 1 recipe

[wind umbra]

stalkers dont have urns lol

[sick sentinel]

oh shit yeah im on auto mode when i see the drops confusion thiking its the suggma one lol

[wind umbra]

active might help if u go on es or dk but at the end of the day its rng. you can just use candies in w5 now so u can try and brute force it like that as well

haha yeah thats the most common one probs gunna be the same for the w6 recipe now

[wise vault]

Sorry the Artifact for sailing

[brave dock]

Can someone tell which setup to use?

[wind umbra]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Sailing has all the effects of sailing artifacts. if you cant find weatherbook gives +10% bits gained in the Gaming Garden per gaming lv.

[wind umbra]

not sure what setup u are looking for but https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

the pet section should have all that u really need

[brave dock]

All of the good setups uses Shelby, i dint unlock it , can u look at my pets and suggest ur own setup?

[thin lark]

What have you been trying?

[wind umbra]

like i said i dont know what you are going for and most of these setups are probs the best you are gunna get for starting players

so you are probably just better off trying to make ur way to snelbie before trying whatver u are going for

[brave dock]

Im trying to get to arena 50 or win some territory battles

[brave dock]

Ok

[thin lark]

Nutto from W1 and Stache from W3 are good too. Stache for eggshell proc out of the looter. Nutto for borger

[brave dock]

I hav niether

[warm kelp]

im having the same problem, trying to reach arena 50

[warm pike]

this whole bunch of words js gave me permanent brain damage

[brave dock]

Can someone tell me why I hav 7 boats but I can only see 6 , my second boat has been missing for a while

[snow light]

do you have a captain in it?

[brave dock]

Yeah

One of my best captains

[snow light]

tried refreshing?

[shy flame]

Do you mean in the map screen? I've realized some of my boats move at roughly the same speed and to roughly the same location so sometimes I got boats hiding under boats

[brave dock]

Should I send u SS of it being missing?

[brave dock]

It's been gone for days

[shy flame]

A screenshot might be helpful just so we can more clearly see what you're seeing

[brave dock]

Ok

[shy flame]

looks like it's behind C

[snow light]

looks like C and B are stuck together

[brave dock]

U sure?

[snow light]

if you are willing to test it out i suggest returning boats and clicking that C boat to see

[warm kelp]

Sailing UI would need some update

[brave dock]

Btw r any of u w6?

[snow light]

i am but just barely if any so i cant answer questions about it too much

[brave dock]

I can't best kattlekruck

How to best him?

[snow light]

can you one shot the moles?

[warm kelp]

which character? Show stats?

[brave dock]

My max is 10M

[snow light]

which character?

[north socket]

just spent a couple weeks worth of candies on palm tree with vman to try to get lucky lad.. of course it doesnt show up

[warm kelp]

how far is ur DK ?

[snow light]

what is your DR at?

[north socket]

9.84x

[brave dock]

Negative

[snow light]

ouch...

[snow light]

what level is your aura/poison fog at?

[warm kelp]

DK or ES a lot easier for kruk if u don't have very wide aura

[brave dock]

Should I give u my ie?

[shy flame]

es kruk basically free

one of these huge aoe spells gotta hit the moles eventually

[brave dock]

https://the_lordof_lord.idleonefficiency.com/

[brave dock]

There

It's around 100

[snow light]

try taking off fibers for the fight you need to do as much dmg as possible to the boss and for cards try to put all %total dmg

[brave dock]

I dint start pushing with dk but if use candies my es could get there

[snow light]

also change your star sign

[brave dock]

That still doesnt make a dent

[warm kelp]

u could put ES or DK on Nobisect and then push

[brave dock]

About that .... Just check my star signs

[brave dock]

I have doot

[warm kelp]

oh dayum.. 😄

[brave dock]

But I got it in w3

It was useless for like a month

[warm pike]

I beat him with 15m bcz of how pointlessly op es is

[warm kelp]

I would also do easy constellations. Ur missing a lot

[warm pike]

Strictly for that fight ofc

[shy flame]

doot probably won't help much with boss fight, I can hold him for you so you can focus on more relevant companions

[brave dock]

My es is like 6mil max

[warm pike]

then bm is best

[warm kelp]

when u reach end map with ES his damage probably goes a lot higher

[brave dock]

I have one constellation

[shy flame]

It's worth taking the time to do some constellations especially now that infinite star signs exist

[brave dock]

But it helps in a lot of things

[shy flame]

hand over the doot and no one except your kruk boss will be hurt

[snow light]

there are a lot of constellations that are basically free at your point in the game like the level requirement ones

[brave dock]

I can't even beat rift one

[warm pike]

(Slug)

[shy flame]

have you tried doing it on ES or DK?

[warm pike]

ur 6m es probably can

[shy flame]

I had no idea how people beat rift 1 and it turns out the key was summoning more enemies to kill the whole time

[brave dock]

I tried dk , it was dogshit

[warm pike]

Js put points into radiant chainbolt and meteors

[warm pike]

if ur imbued shockwaves are a low level it will be absolute trash

[brave dock]

My dk is 117 or something lvl

[north socket]

how do i go from 1million meters minimum to 5/10? the gap seems huge (sailing)

[brave dock]

Class lvl i mean

[shy flame]

Just based on conversation my guess would be that there's a lot of minor things you could improve on which, by themselves, don't mean much but combined add up into some real bonuses that you could realistically get pretty quickly

[snow light]

leveling both captain and boat + speed bonuses from artifacts and other things in game

[warm pike]

this my tab

[brave dock]

Did u see my ie? Tell me what i should do first

[shy flame]

I didn't look because I'm afraid of numbers and data 💀

[north socket]

i only get about double the speed of my boat overrall, should i be getting more from other bonuses? ive got most ancient artifacts

[shy flame]

This is a tool scoli made which is a fairly useful tool if you just want some quick tips on what needs your attention
https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

I'm recommending it instead of giving more in depth advice mainly because it's what I use when I'm trying to figure out what I need to work on

[warm pike]

W but why is it from the 14th

Do I need to update my account on ie?

[brave dock]

How much damage do u suggest to try to kill kruck?

I'll do with es or SB or bubo

[shy flame]

Stuff that immediately stands out to me looking at your IE:

• GET YOUR KEYS
• Kill your mushy minis
• Your stamps are close to maybe 1250 total level, which is really not a lot
• Try rift 1 on ES of course
• It seems like you don't have NBLB lab bonus, you're missing some w4 bubbles and all w5 in alchemy, your alchemy min bubble is 1, which is Not Good.

There's a lot more

[snow light]

6/10 constellations in W1 you can unlock right now
5/8 constellations in W2 you can unlock right now
6/8 contesllations in W3 you can unlock right now
6/7 contellations in W4 you can unlock right now

W1 you can level up stamps/unlock more stamps to get more dmg

W2 alchemy gives you more dmg i suggest going in turn of

1. big skilling bubbles to 185-186
   2)small skilling bubbles
2. multiplicative bubbles
   4)etc bubbles
3. larrrrryyyyy bubbles and Cooking roadkill are higher priority than multiplicative bubbles imo due to better returns on investment

W4 you have doot none of your lab bonuses are lit on IE

this stuff can help

[shy flame]

Like, if I try to list all the things you should improve it's most likely just overwhelming and doesn't feel helpful, I'd just go world by world to start, check constellations and stamps w1, then alchemy, maybe PO box and constellations w2, check construction, deathnote, constellations w3 and so on. It'll probably take a few hours of time but you can probably boost your progress exponentionally if you're able to make the time to just go through, fill in the holes

I had to do that recently myself, I added like 2k total levels in stamps, added 30 greenstacks (you currently have the equinox bubble challenge to have 20 total), I think my highest log sample went from like 10m to 45m

[north socket]

im severely lacking knowing im like 5th map w6

[snow light]

at this point it is boat upgrades and loot/speed captains

[echo gulch]

Are white pearls at killroy viable later on

[north socket]

people use them to push vman to lv500 if im not mistaken

[echo gulch]

Ah

[uncut glade]

Once you have doot, does it matter what god each character is linked to?

[north socket]

i think you need 1 char on purmeap or something like that

[shy flame]

purrmep, and yeah, link a single boi to our liger friend

[cursive cosmos]

no, but you can still link to a god so it looks good on your char select screen

[uncut glade]

Ok yeah I thought so, for pushing through world 6 I dont need anyone to have nobisect as they should all get it anyway right?

[brave dock]

I checked ur suggestions and the bots suggestions, i appreciate them a lot

Btw quick question

Is 6mil max damage es enough for rift one

[shy flame]

probably, the main issue with rift 1 is just being able to kill enough mobs in time. My issue wasn't damage it was just mobs, so using ES, who spawns additional mobs through portal, made it ezpz lemon squeezy

[brave dock]

Ok I'll try it then

[brave dock]

Do u hav doot?

[north socket]

if i remember correctly, nothing really nice in rift appart for skill mastery which you are still shy of dmg for

[shy flame]

no lol

someone doesn't know about construction mastery, ruby cards, infinite star signs, stamp mastery, etc

I don't think anyone should feel like they have to rush rift, but if you are like me and your issue is rift one and it's just because mobs aren't spawning enough and you haven't thought to use ES/DK/SB/Bubo then like, yeah, worth a shot to see what you can get quick and easy

[brave dock]

I got it

Rift one done

Which character should I use for rift two?

[warm kelp]

Finally got this done:

[north socket]

is construction exp stamp multiplicative?

[rare dock]

what kind of card presets do people use when doing bubo cc

[north socket]

are these "necessary?

[eternal wasp]

they good

[crystal yew]

where are tremor worms? On the wiki it say the worm pit or whatever? where is that. I have all the maps in w5 except the very last which i think is called crawley catacombs. I just want mongo worm slices for the vial

[eternal wasp]

It is very last

[crystal yew]

god damn it

[north socket]

300k to 3m portal is rough but the map is nice

[crystal yew]

there goes some time candies xD
ty

im 2/3 done

[eternal wasp]

It was 10m back then iirc

[crystal yew]

rip 3 24hrs

all i had

[north socket]

w6 launch nerfed portal requirements

[runic token]

can produced bars in forge get full and stop producing?

[eternal wasp]

Nope

Do you have auto arm?

[kind mulch]

i'm using crystal, exp and dmg (dmg can replace with money drop)

[paper sail]

Get that Efaunt card out of there. Absolute dogshit

[kind mulch]

tbh, i don't need exp cards

[paper sail]

I'm gonna hope you have no card doublers based on those placements too

[kind mulch]

yep, i don't have :(

[paper sail]

Sadge

[shy flame]

what's a card doopler

is that a kind of meterological radar?

[slate vector]

What's wrong with efaunt card?

[shy flame]

active mon exp cards are strictly better than ones that apply even when idle, but both are straight turds compared to just actively playing

by active I mean clicking auto I'm not insane

nvm I'm wrong

[paper sail]

"EXP from Monsters" cards are additive with the Grind Time bubble, making them very very very tiny. For example, Ruby Efaunt would take me from 101.48x class exp to 101.78x class exp. Basically nothing.

"Monster EXP while Active" cards are in a different group of bonuses, making them multiply with Grind Time. Those are worth using if you need levels, but only while active 👍

[slate vector]

I see. So moonmoon and fly are the only ones actually worth using

[paper sail]

Active EXP cards also work on Crystal enemies, and those already have a big exp multiplier to begin with. Ends up making a single crystal worth thousands of normal kills

[shy flame]

that's what I said but with a lot more clarity and a lot less stupidity

[paper sail]

Eh. You said active exp cards are turds and that's simply not true.

[slate vector]

Good to know that I can replace those on card presets

Hey Scoli can I ask you something since you are very knowledgeable.

[shy flame]

I said they're turds compared to active playing whilst also asaying active exp was strictly better

Much less clear and much more stupid, but you aren't exactly gonna use active cards for idle play

[slate vector]

How do the following apply when farming for items:

Multikill
Droprate
Afk Gains

And then how does ES and DK play into that formula?

[shy flame]

uhhhhhhhh multikill mainly just applies to the base drop, DR to rare drops, afk gains I think largely just affect the base drop too, but I was literally wrong about mechanics like 5 minutes ago

[paper sail]

In a very complicated fashion

[shy flame]

I farm in very simple terms:

Crystal mob drop: DK
Rare Drop: ES
Rare Drop but I fear lag: DK

[slate vector]

First Mob Drop: ES

[glacial venture]

oh man...lava will remove the ability to use starsigns you didnt buy yet....

[shy flame]

I'd mostly just recommend listening to scoli over me

[glacial venture]

seems i must do some constellations^^

[shy flame]

astrology skill when

[fickle badge]

Is dk on beans the best way to farm lucky lads?

[paper sail]

MK increases the QUANTITY of the base drop only. Only applies if the item actually drops lol.

DR initially increases only the CHANCE of all drops. This applies to the chance for getting into a rare bag, but does not double dip to items within the bag. Gets wonky when you have high DR because you can "guarantee" drops if you have 2x DR compared to the base rate- 10x DR will guarantee a 1 in 5 item drops 2 every time. Rounding/pity kicks in at halfway points weirdly that I don't fully understand. I think you'd guarantee 3 starting at 12.5x DR in this example, but 4 wouldn't happen until 17.5x. Between these guaranteed points, DR does nothing for that particular drop.

AFK only works while AFK, duh 😅 It provides base kills, which do actually provide drops, money, and exp.

ES Portal is active-only. You have increased DR against them based on how high your portal number is. Same rules as normal DR here: Increases chance unless you can guarantee.

DK Orb is the worst of them all. Every point is a 1% chance to roll against that enemy's loot table again. This becomes a guarantee at 100%, such that every kill loot twice. This one also gets super fucky because it can cause guaranteed drops.

Since we're here: Jman's Gimme Gimme acts just like DK Orb at ~60ish stacks, or whatever your Gimme Gimme % is.

[shy flame]

can I ask for clarification on how/if afk gains apply to vman multikill during speedrun

[paper sail]

They don't. AFK is AFK only. Speedrun is an active mechanic

[shy flame]

okay, I got confused cause I only really see MK percents in the AFK info screen

[paper sail]

Yeah, I wish that stat was shown elsewhere. The MK% you see there is valid for both Active and AFK.

[shy flame]

oh thank the lord that is much more useful

for some reason I thought it was changing with my afk gains

[north socket]

is it maybe worth it to use one of my squirres to get cogs faster when im actively trying to push for better cog exp?

[paper sail]

Sure, if you're actively clicking cogs. Just don't forget to put them back on the board lol

[kindred moss]

is farming hampters best with ES?

[oak bolt]

what do i do after i unlocked bear constellation

should i still have everyone on divinity or nah

[hybrid halo]

Maybe until you unlock goat

[sudden barn]

Hi, I want to check pancake guides to TD on tips and tricks but discord tells me I don't have access 😦 how

[hybrid halo]

Maybe because of this?

[misty spindle]

then why does a print become much bigger during a speedrun if you use his ability? Doesnt printing take a sample from afk?

[hybrid halo]

Because of this talent

I think

[north socket]

what is good way to boost cog speed? just construction speed in general?

[proven obsidian]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=MrsSuperCraft
In need of advice. What should I do next?

[warm kelp]

Is it possible to activate both with 1 guy at the bottom?

[toxic saddle]

Yes

[warm kelp]

Just need more width then, I guess

[night locust]

you need bonus like this

[junior arrow]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[warm kelp]

Wow.. that is gonna take some time 😄

[night locust]

it will help, little by little

[sudden barn]

I tried but it didn't fix it 🥲

[teal inlet]

lmao i got two of these in a single afk session

[night locust]

where you get that?

[weary hinge]

is there any way to track like which characters you have have done the starsign/s for each world?

[gentle furnace]

!ie

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger#6559

[weary hinge]

thanks!

[north socket]

any construction exp bonus that is multiplicative?

[wary wolf]

is there any way to increase the duration of the orb of remembrance besides levelling it up via talents?

[cloud tiger]

Anyone got a preferred map for Lucky Lad farm? Or do you just do it while farming statues etc on DK

[sinful aurora]

Exactly what you said. You have the correct answer.

[cloud tiger]

Ty for confirming.

[leaden karma]

what character is fast for money?

[teal lynx]

DK > Bubo

[drowsy sand]

?

[drowsy sand]

I heard bubo was better

kinda confused

[teal lynx]

DK is around 70% better than Bubo
This might be a later game thing, but you can always test

[drowsy sand]

oh, I didnt know that! Cool

[north socket]

im currently in the transition phase, bubo is goodd earlier on, so bubo better than dk until dk becomes better

bubo goes brrrt for active mob kills more easily

[drowsy sand]

Im trying to get to w6 rn

so i need alot more damage...

i have 4.4m to 8.5m

[whole epoch]

Ya'll I have a problem. I just bought the fifth tab and uh how do I get that many recipes

[drowsy sand]

you need to unlock them from mobs

[whole epoch]

I only have 11 recipes left in the other four tabs, plus 12 in tab 5

[novel loom]

It‘s a placeholder there aren‘t any recipes right now

[sinful aurora]

W5-6 all recipes are drops

[teal inlet]

lmao i got a w5 recipe just now but i still havent unlocked w4 anvil tab

idk

food tank is pretty powerful

how do i farm statues with dk? just active at beans?

[teal lynx]

Equip your Crystal Chance Cards and double them with Lab Chips. Equip Choco Chip and go to whatever world you need - The Pins have a detailed guide on which map for which Statue

The rest is full dr setup, cards, starsigns, card set, obols - So as usual

[teal inlet]

ah ok thx

ohhh divine intervention can be used continuously

[misty cipher]

Sooo.. if I have no shrines on.... Will big monsters ever spawn xD ?

[spice widget]

i wouldnt recommend using no prayers tho

[misty cipher]

On some, it's very worth it

[spice widget]

its better to just use those u want

[misty cipher]

For now, It's worth it for nearly all of my characters

[spice widget]

doubt it

but sure ig

[drowsy sand]

Is a food slot good for extra damage

[misty cipher]

Can always go back and put it on if I need "something"

[drowsy sand]

or is there any recommended gem spending for extra damage

[misty cipher]

Food slots is godlike 😄

And if I need more power. I fine the "Damage" potions 😄

[drowsy sand]

problem is.... i have basiclly no golen food........

[misty cipher]

You will, don't worry

The further you get in the game, the more you get automatically by playing

[drowsy sand]

K

anything from w6 i need to save up for?

[misty cipher]

You get this like, ALL the time in W5

[drowsy sand]

Rip i got like 12 of those

And i find it hard to push multiple characters at once due to defence and accuracy lacking

for now my dk is at purgatorystalkers

[misty cipher]

Well, keep leveling them up in W5, use cards with defence and Accuracy, and stay in the areas that gives the most EXP each hour, and some characters level faster by being active, like ES.

[drowsy sand]

K

Should i try rn to get as many people pushing w5 as possible

Divinity also going horrible, dont even have nubisect yet

[spiral tinsel]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

check this, might help
I legit had all 10 of my chars on divinity for 2 days

unlocking the arcbear is gamechanger

then nobi for pushing

I pushed only with my DK

[spiral tinsel]

but yes we do need a lot more damage

I got fairly quickly to w5 boss, but at 16M high dmg on DK I cannot kill him

[drowsy sand]

Rip, i have 8m

[spiral tinsel]

getting arc will magically make you get everything on lab, which will be a huge global boost

[drowsy sand]

I already got him

But nubisect keeps eluding me

[spiral tinsel]

then we are on the same, z-DPS, boat

[drowsy sand]

my lab levels are not very good

[spiral tinsel]

I want GOAT on div so I can improve that

[drowsy sand]

with more than half i get to killer brightside and meal cooking jewel

Should i get nubisect first or push first

[spiral tinsel]

if you push for 8 days, that'd be 4 days with nubi

not counting his damage% minor

so I'd say get first

[drowsy sand]

ok

[spiral tinsel]

if your gaming and sailling are going well maybe levelling sanke/bear blessings can help? also double check if every prayer is on Focus style

[drowsy sand]

havent unlocked focus on everyone yet, only on es

[spiral tinsel]

ohh, that will help

[drowsy sand]

i have my bb chowing and my two newest leveling

and of course my pusher

I made my two newest relatively late

so 1 is at lvl68 and one is now at 116

[prime glade]

Hey y'all, I'm coming back after a near year absence. And am noticing I forgot alot of the finer details to check on characters before claiming for maximum gains. I have two in Divinity and 6 in lab. And two others that were just fighting mobs. The two fighting mobs have been claimed, are there things I can use those characters for to maximize gains? For example I forgot to use my breeder to enter world 4 to maximize egg rarity

[night locust]

well if you got the purple rhombol jewel, you can nudge other lab char, and use exp chips before claiming the other char labs

if you got chips card doubler you can switch them before you claim

[warm pike]

Multikill achieved

[warm pike]

Chizoar (re)achieved

[flint merlin]

how do i unlock the Ancient form by the artefacts by sealing

[teal lynx]

You sail to do the same Island and hope you find the artifact again

[flint merlin]

ah ok

[warm pike]

6/6 w6 upgrade stones

[spice widget]

No troll armor?

[fossil walrus]

i want to redo my prints, but i ran into an issue i want to sample bugs but i only have 1 SB but i can/want to sample 12 different bugs which ones should i ignore?

[lone stag]

anyone know how to report a bug? can't seem to find anything on discord

[spice widget]

#bug-reports-🐛

[lone stag]

thank you, much abligied

[sly zodiac]

Hey, someone knows how can I get the Adept Recipe from suggma again? I don't have it in my anvil

[lone stag]

1 in 50 mill drop from suggmas

[sly zodiac]

Oh, I see

But the drop is available? I'm afraid I cant get it anymore

[lone stag]

Is it still showing in the drop table?

[sly zodiac]

Yes

[lone stag]

It hasn't dropped yet then

The type of loot is revealed when you get a drop of the same type, meaning recipes. The fact you still see it means it hasn't dropped yet but you've got a recipe drop from something else

[north socket]

is it me or unending loot is kinda good now?

[sly zodiac]

I understand, thank you!

[paper mist]

can someone link me the guide with the best food/cards for skilling?

specifically chopping

trying to push my 3d prints on toilet paper for the CC bubble

[silk coyote]

hi, umm, I, like, never use those chats, but i wanted to know how to do the Legendary Flag achievement, i cant get past 100 plunderous kills, when i try leaving coins on the ground it looks like just the subtraction of 20~ coins is just too fast

[glacial venture]

disable skill on vman

[silk coyote]

mhm

ok, will do, ty

[glacial venture]

vman has skil that buffs skills of other chars

in case of sb the buff is automatic plunderous spawn when you reach 100 on the flag

enhancement eclips is the name

[brittle garnet]

Does this mean I get x6 items? With both lab and div.

[sick sentinel]

blue is lab 2x
gold is harriep god 3x
purple is both 6x
sometimes the visual does bug out tho showing the wrong color so check on IE or IT to see if u have the correct output

[brittle garnet]

ok, ty

[raw tundra]

salililng?

[thin lark]

[oak bolt]

when should i remove my characters from divinity

[thin lark]

When you hit Goat

[oak bolt]

okay, is 4 div 1 exp or 2 div 2 exp better?

[thin lark]

I would go for Div points over exp when starting out.

[oak bolt]

ok

is it better to have bear or snake linked to ppl meditating?

[thin lark]

I'm not sure, but I don't think afk gains affect Div gains.

[oak bolt]

ok

[raw tundra]

27th week. everything changes. what have you got to tell me now? also what happens if i connect with a god now that this happened?

[lime fractal]

nothing it just kinda ignores it

[raw tundra]

ok, thanks

[sick sentinel]

still need to connect a character to purrmep

[raw tundra]

if i don't want exp i can just ignore it now. well um, leveling skills is important and stuff righT? so what do you early and mid gamers do really?

[sick sentinel]

otherwise it doesnt work right. do ur highest lvl div

[raw tundra]

thanks for knowledge

[sick sentinel]

the no exp for lab is only from remote connection. if you put the character in the lab tubes it will get lab exp still

[crystal yew]

holy crap finnaly got fury. abt time.

[raw tundra]

well if i want to levle up all my characters at the same time, i can get lab bonuses and level them up in different maps. BUT, if i want lab exp, i can't do that

right?

[echo crag]

with doot lab bonus are basically permanent, you need to put in lab to get lab exp tho

remember to put in lab if you need div exp too

[raw tundra]

oh yes. so i don't need to do divinity unless i want to change stance or something. bieng in lab gives divine exp, too with that one god. but what is the reccomendation? when do i want to put them in lab for exp? when do i not?

[echo crag]

thats up to you really, just remember that getting div level boost the minor link bonus, and you need lab lvl 75 to unlock all chip slots

can wait a bit to have better bonus source of lab/div exp

[raw tundra]

thank

[echo crag]

meals from cooking/breeding are a ez source of that

[tidal ice]

you dont have to worry about lab level 75 as a starting player because theres no chance you can even fill those chip slots with good chips in the first place early on

if you have doot, get enough lab levels to cover all the bonuses and then expand when you get more and more jewels

[lunar light]

When you buy a card pack for a world (let's use w5 as an example), does the boss card it give only come from the same world?

(Trying to see if it might be worth to buy another w6 card pack, I got one with that bundle)

[bleak field]

do we know what formula is used to calculate damage? I'm wondering what I should focus on and unsure how important upgrading weapon is.

[spice widget]

its a boss card of any world

[short sparrow]

I'm finally starting to get pop obols at a decent rate now

[grim atlas]

does cranium cooking count towards sigils?

[lunar light]

Not worth buying another w6 pack then. Thank you.

[wind creek]

what does this max out at with eldritch artifact?

3% x 80 days = 2.4x no?

[half nymph]

yeah so it would be 3.4x

[wind creek]

ahhh makes sense

thanks

[pearl quail]

Where can I see this multi

Nvm I see it

[rotund trail]

any best practice for how to upgrade the gaming bonuses?

For now I've just been going from top to bottom upgrading to 1 cost, then 2 cost, then 4, then 8, 16, 32, 64 etc.

[zinc torrent]

Whats the best way for me to kill chaotic kattlekruk in 30 sec?

[short sparrow]

Have a lot of damage

[echo crag]

ES with 200% crit chance, high dmg, tornado max as it should do lots of dmg then

[thorny gorge]

the slab's list is retroactive right?

[zinc torrent]

I'm using sb with 1.9x crit dmg and over 1b min and 1.7b max

[echo crag]

if you looted stuff from the ground yes

[tidal ice]

yea

[echo crag]

might need to let your account cook longer for more dmg buffs

[zinc torrent]

I'll try es and work on them

My es has over 129% crit chance and 300m max tho

[echo crag]

you got overaccurate crit ?

[zinc torrent]

Yes

[echo crag]

the w6 skill do have a few early bonus that should help you with getting your account up faster

[tidal ice]

summoning wins are big

[echo crag]

the +dmg for each crop from sneaking/farming is great too

[rotund trail]

summoning wins are super gated behind essence generation though (for a F2P'er atleast.)

[echo crag]

buy the boosts to essence generation as much as you can, level up the vial and relevant stamps/bubbles

its worth to spend some gems if you have on the summoning slimes to get more exp

[tidal ice]

idk I feel like sneaking and especially farming is a lot more timegated than summoning

summoning you can easily get at least 3x damage with just the first few wins

[echo crag]

summoning snowball, but a new color is hard initially

[rotund trail]

speaking of farming.. how often am I supposed to babysit that?

I'm usually a check account once a day person, but they seem to grow much faster than that

[tidal ice]

every time the crops grow, its 4 hours for me atm

[echo crag]

eraly on try to check every cycle if you can at least until you unlock the night market for overgrow

[tidal ice]

overgrowth might change it but im not there yet

[rotund trail]

"Idleon" lives up to its name once again :S

[echo crag]

having to go back to town for farming is what annoys me atm

[tidal ice]

quickref sneaking over farming is a crime

[echo crag]

that and sneaking needing to swap to all character for exp

[tidal ice]

only use for quickref sneaking is switching gear to optimize cycles, you dont gain much from hourly upgrading

and item drop rate scales with time spent since last check

[exotic oar]

should i upgrade my void armor to chizoar or go for troll

[tidal ice]

helm is good and maybe chest rest can stay void

[echo crag]

worth making it for slab regardless

[tidal ice]

ideally you want to transition to troll for all characters anyway because its what upgrades into later armor

[exotic oar]

troll or chizoar?

[tidal ice]

chiz helm and chest have dmg% which can help

[jovial bloom]

is it even possible to get Elfritch Fury? 😑

[exotic oar]

so i will make chiz helm and chest and get tab 4 then try for troll ig

[tidal ice]

troll is just timegated by nullo salts

[echo crag]

eldritch fury rate is not as bad as the last artifact rates lol

work on getting to w6 for sneaking/summonning buff to artifact find rates

[jovial bloom]

iam very DOUBTFUL.... Also i did change is 0.11-0.20 on Fury now. ... it used to be for last ~2000 chests 0.3-0.6

[tidal ice]

sounds like a skill issue tbh

[jovial bloom]

o.O 💥 whaaaat? wtf.... pretty sure i got +24h on gaming from SB... this is what i see?! i didn't get plants but water is full so it did work?! 😵

and i think it was 3rd time i got +gaming gains and it did work all other times

[echo crag]

the lavacode works in mysterious way

[jovial bloom]

and it seemed that using water didn't work either... but getting +5 hours from log got me 20/20 my plants. 🤮

well doesnt matter my gaming is trash anyways. ah. and i even did it on att. preset...

so get 100M mushrooms on 2x 24hour chest runs..... so i have done at least 40x runs... and thats about 1k mushroom chest....but then i have no idea how long it took to get golden fury... so i guess i done close to 2k chests like guessed...... rip... i think i started late november fury eldritch hunt. help me.... when i get sneaking artifact bonus? or is it gem shop thing?

[echo crag]

sneaking bonus is the first lab node you can buy from the vendor

[jovial bloom]

o.O

the Artifactt matrix?

[echo crag]

dont forget to go enable it in the lab XD

[jovial bloom]

..... now.... now.... sigh.... i kinda.... well didn't think much about them... cause i dont use W1-W2 skills atm... so i .... sigh

[echo crag]

you only need to enable that node when you open the chests if you dont want to lab slave or dont have doot

[teal inlet]

what happens if afk gain rate go over 100%? do i get more than active

[spice widget]

u get more yes but active is prolly still better later then

[echo crag]

that afk gain also boost sampling

[teal inlet]

oh my god 4312 divinity points for a 50% chance for the bunny

i am gaining 16/hr oh my

i will never get all the gods

[jovial bloom]

dunno how active work for non respawn/spawning elites... but i think afk gain rate closer to 300% would be superior to active gains.

[jovial bloom]

don't worry just get divinity 100level on all chars and you probably unlocked all gods. at least that's what happened to me.

[teal inlet]

oh my god lv 100

[echo crag]

openiong portal in w6 atm, my bubo got 20m kills done in about 6h active while my other characters got like 3-4m on the mob before

[jovial bloom]

before W6 i did for 2 months only skill... to get that rift bonus... all skills 100=+ on all chars. (exept 2x skills and i kinda only got catching on ES to 96lvl before W6)

[echo crag]

technicly you want div at like 150ish cuz of Big P to for acrtis link bonus

[teal inlet]

my chars on 4

[dry tusk]

After 3 weeks of almost hourly clicking gaming my nugget went from 6.4k to 6.5k gaming is the best skill in this game

[echo crag]

got equinox upgrade for it ?

[dry tusk]

naw haven't gotten to it yet really need too

[echo crag]

yeah get working on equinox, will help you alot

[dry tusk]

yea i just unlocked equinox like 2 weeks ago, should be pretty close to it

[echo crag]

helps for gaming, but also pretty great for alchy

[jovial bloom]

before equinox i think i had nugget 70kish... now i have 400kish.

[echo crag]

man wish i could luck out on a nugget closer to max cap after a long bonus streak

[jovial bloom]

.... my min was around 14k when i got +30k on previous.... sigh... when i could easily gotten like +200k....

[dry tusk]

yea just on annoying tasks rn, 300 con, 48 double cogs, lucky lad on beginner, 75 gstacks, 140 shrines

probably should just get gstacks out of the way

[jovial bloom]

yea it's easy.... funny how i dont even remember seeing shrines and lucky lad task

[echo crag]

a 8m nugget would be sweet

[jovial bloom]

i saw player who had 15k nuggets streak.

i think max nugget size were around 1T.

but yea i think mine were like 800ish streak.

+30k made my day....

[slate vector]

Hey I fell asleep but I really appreciate this write-up. This is super helpful to understand the varying drop mechanics. This should be pinned

[teal lynx]

Not even close to 1T - You probably saw the 30k guy at 1B Max range

[jovial bloom]

ah gotta be that.

max snail would be sweet...

[jade zenith]

can recipes be bugged? I'm still missing gloves from suggmas, but I've been grinding for days and haven't gotten the drop. I have the other three weapons though

[echo crag]

the gloves can take time to drop, some ppl only got them after getting over 4k of the rare drop to give an idea

[jade zenith]

oof ok, I only have ~400 of the rare drop. probably better to go grind something else for now

[jovial bloom]

yea wasnt there some mobs with bugged card drop rates too

and like this doesnt make sense....

oh right this was W5 chat tho

[quartz pagoda]

thats the voidwalker weapon, it has always been a harder to get drop

[jovial bloom]

but i got it in like 1st day

[sick sentinel]

it doesnt show on the card like that if you have claimed it

[sharp mauve]

Does the W6 Artifact Matrix help greatly on getting Artifact sooner? 🤔

[sick sentinel]

unless maybe you dont have the new anvil tier

[jovial bloom]

i dont

[sick sentinel]

do you have the recipe still

[jovial bloom]

i cannot craft anything cause no one mining

[sick sentinel]

it should be good for it

[pastel obsidian]

Would a 2nd ES or 2nd DK be more beneficial for my 10th char?

[teal lynx]

The usual order of chars is: 2 SB, 1 BM ; 2 ES, 1 Bubo ; 2 DK, 1 BB and a Vman

This way you don't lock yourself out of future classes

[pastel obsidian]

I made 2 BB

I have everyone else though

[teal lynx]

!classes

[obtuse orbit]

One of each subclass for the six first characters, JourneyMan can be slot 7, 8 or 9. For three others characters you can do Wizard / Bowman / Barbarian / Squire.

Finals Objectives :

• 3 Warriors - 3 Archers - 3 Mages - 1 Secret Class (balanced)

⚠️⬇️Warning ⬇️⚠️

• NEVER do 3 of the same elite class, or you'll be unable to have all classes

[pastel obsidian]

Yes i have everything else haha just don't know my 10th

but thanks anyways

[strong nexus]

question: if i do the full onyx statut quest does it block my other character to get time candy from the first step?

[teal lynx]

Everybody can (and should at some point) do the quest

[strong nexus]

ok (only 1000 power statut to go then

[dry tusk]

oooooo should be done the divinity lab grind in a day

[kindred dagger]

Just beat nkruk with this.

[zenith cape]

Does the onyx guy take to 20k power statues? I forget

[quasi totem]

It's 20k statues for each onyx statue

[quasi totem]

How painful was it?

[kindred dagger]

Quite. Took about an hour, and the biggest advice I can give you is to take a piss before you start.

[quasi totem]

Trying to get it done on my vman has made me want to cry a few times I won't lie...

[echo crag]

i decided to wait a bit for w6 to pimp my vman some more

[kindred dagger]

You really start to get the hang of it. Whip only high density. Same with coins. Try to basic attack everything as long as you can, then run over to the other side and whip. Then start attacking boss, wait until the last minute, hit void radius. Then immediately go back to fighting moles. Don't get greedy.

[quasi totem]

I tried that very strategy, I believe a few times I get the timings off on the switch and/or get greedy with boss hits!

[misty spindle]

Did lava increase the damage cristal mobs do? Im getting one shot on the worms map but a week ago I was fine

[kindred dagger]

Check your prayers. There's one that decreases defense a lot. Balance of Pain I think.

[misty spindle]

yep thats what it was

[zinc torrent]

Can someone give me a lv 100 bm build

[echo crag]

alchy

[storm forum]

Hey so i came to w5 3 days ago and I was told to try and get the second God what I do now I got it

[sharp mauve]

So that you could do some resampling with the first god, before assigning some of them linked with 2nd god to continue enjoying lab bonus.

While also sitting in altar if needed.

[storm forum]

Then?

[sharp mauve]

Unlock more god

[storm forum]

What should be my next Goal or priority?

Should I try and get them all better tools?

Cause my account is very rushed only some of them have dementia tool for their main skill

[sharp mauve]

• Nobisect god so u can have main start pushing W5.
• Rift challenge at W4 if possible.
• Sailing and Gaming progression.
• More Bubbles.
• Vman.

U could craft better tool and armor, but try to stock up Nullo Salt if possible.

[storm forum]

I only have blue salt unlocked

I don't have pink or nullo salt

[sharp mauve]

As long as u keep Green and Red running in future.

U have to rank those 2 up constantly.

[zinc torrent]

how can i increase my damage to kill the boss

my damage is between 14M-34M

and it is a BB

[echo crag]

you dont want to do w5 boss on BB until your forced to by the task board

[sharp mauve]

ES or DK could do better, but check ur Stamps, Alchemy, Post Office, etc.

Many ppl keep rushing to the boss without the super easy to get stamps.

[zinc torrent]

yeah about that… my other characters are like in w3 fighting for their lives bc they can’t survive in w4 yet

[sharp mauve]

I had a good base Alchemy and Ubercharged Health lv so most of them can start leveling in W5...

[echo crag]

w5 boss is hard if you cant kill it in like 10-15sec cuz the mob start reaching it and heal him, BB lacking spamable aoe makes it really painfull then

[zinc torrent]

i can’t even get it under 398B health in 10 seconds

i need like 10B damage

[echo crag]

thats why dk/es/bubo are better for the first kill since they have better skill set for him

[zinc torrent]

for them to reach my BB level would take months

[echo crag]

stamp/alchy/cooking are the go to for better damage as well as books

[zinc torrent]

i’ll try upgrading some stamps and bubbles

[echo crag]

do they have 100% survival in w5 when using w5 food ?

[zinc torrent]

they don’t get 100% survival with food in w4…

[echo crag]

using w5 food ?

[zinc torrent]

no i never tried with w5 food

[sharp mauve]

Have you leveled Ubercharged Health to 120+ and Hemo to like 20 - 50?

[zinc torrent]

the best i reached on my other characters is the choco mobs in w4

[echo crag]

by w4-w5 hemo should be maxed really

[sharp mauve]

I did not put more cause I am stingy

[echo crag]

hemo is your best survival w/o food if you have the hp stamp properly leveled up

[zinc torrent]

hubercharged health is at 114 and hemoglobin at 50

[sharp mauve]

Warriors have buffed FMJ Bubble, Warriors and Archers have Tab 2 Health%. Mage is usually struggling.

Pls tell me you have obtained Blackheart stamp.

[zinc torrent]

let me check

yes i have it

level 15

[sharp mauve]

🪛

[zinc torrent]

yeah i have to upgrade it

[echo crag]

its not an easy one to levelup at the start but its still helps alot

[zinc torrent]

i’ll try leveling it as much as possible

[sharp mauve]

W1 Smithing skill hits hard in W5

[echo crag]

check the 2 stamp that give defense as well

[echo crag]

well its mostly most ppl will tell you to do 3x thread for faster level up, so if you never did much of anything else...

[zinc torrent]

i've been stuck on this stage of gaming for a while now, is there something i'm missing to get 600b for the next import or is it just grind time?

ok now it is level 45

[zinc torrent]

i’m doing 3x threads