lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[ashen field]

DR & Crystal spawn? :p

[hearty tapir]

everytime for something

[proud pumice]

oh i meant card sets lol

[ashen field]

oh card sets nah

[hearty tapir]

bruh

[sweet pine]

card slot i meant your number of cards you can equip

[proud pumice]

i exchanged them in my head lol

[ashen field]

I wonder if we'll get the 4th liquid cauldron slot

That one

[hearty tapir]

i wonder if we get 4th cauldron

[warm pike]

28 acrade balls and it’s still going

[ashen field]

Well it shouldn't really be useful until w7 anyhow right

New baubles should use trench seawater either way

[hearty tapir]

yeeeeeey another cancer

[solid jolt]

how do I submit a suggestion?

[hearty tapir]

just write it there

[warm pike]

end result the other reds are gone

[ashen field]

I'm still chasing the last arcade stamp

Kind of a bummer tbh

[hearty tapir]

i still dont have any

[solid jolt]

where

[hearty tapir]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/739454987909988413

[ashen field]

Gotten 4 red boaty hats so far

but the stamps are impossible

[hearty tapir]

lucky

[solid jolt]

I don't have access to that channel

[ashen field]

Well I don't really need them

[hearty tapir]

i am sooo fucking unlucky in gamba

[ashen field]

I mean they're fun and all but the benefit is extremely neglible

I'd much rather have the stamp

[hearty tapir]

u have to chose role for in in the intro

[ocean basin]

does anyone know if doot leaves companion rotation with w6?

[ashen field]

Probably not

[hearty tapir]

nobody other then lava know

[ashen field]

I'd wager there won't be any more companion pets

Due to the outcry

But who knows

[hearty tapir]

i dont want anymore

i am trying to be f2p

[stable trench]

im a gambling addict i need more companions

[hearty tapir]

but fucjing companios

wtf

[warm pike]

Green stack when?

[hearty tapir]

how should i get doot

[warm pike]

f2p😁

[hearty tapir]

10m

[warm pike]

No Ik

Im saying its taking too long

[hearty tapir]

🤏

[warm pike]

pretty good prints given my last ones were 20k

[stable trench]

nice progress

[hearty tapir]

yeah

[solid jolt]

how do I gain access to that channel now?

[hearty tapir]

congra

[warm pike]

Give me like a week I’m gonna get 1m prints😁

[hearty tapir]

u have to choose role for everything

[hearty tapir]

good luck

[warm pike]

Ion need luck I need bits

[solid jolt]

I did

[stable trench]

just get fury relic and youre good to go

[hearty tapir]

does it work ?

[ashen field]

Still trying to get that elusive 1billion sample

940 million right now

[hearty tapir]

i am around 120m but few months did not update it

i think i should

but i dont want to

[ashen field]

Its a little bit of work finding all the correct equipment, chips etc

[untold saffron]

not until W6 now

[old fable]

is the best way to farm bars using candy on siege breaker at mushrooms? trying to kit out everyone with magma gear and starfire/dreadlo are a bit annoying to amass

[untold saffron]

yes or cycling 2 minute claims between all your archers

[misty spindle]

arent you supposed to do that with BM so you can also get incubator?

[hearty tapir]

truu

[old crane]

bm needs active

[misty spindle]

wait you fr? you can just claim every 2 minutes?

[noble sable]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/841194104678383648/1104277662798716978/image.png

Just keep it

[untold saffron]

if you enjoy that kind of thing

[misty spindle]

depressing

[noble sable]

Someday you get used to it

[hearty tapir]

yep

[misty spindle]

I enjoy having bars

[old fable]

i have hundreds of candies so I'll probably just keep afk claiming til i have enough

just slightly painful

[untold saffron]

an amorak pendant

[noble sable]

Old pic

I save it for these moments

[untold saffron]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vROpoiWi9XQVNm6gy0hHjvD0RKQFcGFzUmX2f-1rsbv8OPQX583Er0AEZndX6JzxMhz6HG2dSOqa6GT/pubhtml#

[stable trench]

whats the best amount of dna to research when trying to get chemical?

[untold saffron]

i use this

[hearty tapir]

i am going sleeping

[noble sable]

50? Idk

[hearty tapir]

bey guys

[native folio]

how do you spam 1hr candies with enter?

[untold saffron]

0.1-0.3%

[untold saffron]

open inventory, press candy, enter, I

[noble sable]

Cool

I will save it here. Thanks

[native folio]

didnt work

[untold saffron]

which part isn't working

[sick sentinel]

i do the same but use spacebar instead of enter, a tad more comfy

[paper nova]

I have so many bridges left to saw 😢

[untold saffron]

level up bob, you'll get there before friday

[native folio]

this worked,thanks mate

[untold saffron]

feels weird being out of quests to do

[warm pike]

even with multikill this is still gonna take 55 years

[paper nova]

interesting math

it will def take longer than all other portals you're used to. those guys are tough

[untold saffron]

anyone F2P should do cowbo, goldric, crystalswine and centurian before friday on every char though

quest rewards are sick

[obtuse rover]

To reach the coveted 5.667B kill milestone, yeah

[timber jetty]

does anyone know if u can sample pearler shells?

[untold saffron]

no

you candy them for the vial

[obtuse rover]

Only the item in the top-left of the mob's loot table (its base drop) can be sampled

[timber jetty]

ok ty

[fathom drift]

Should i recycle my spare C. Custard and Rift slug for 600 P. gems?

[untold saffron]

can you like, give me the slug instead

on the very very slim chance theres trading in the coming update though I'd save them

who knows, maybe someone has 2 doots and no slug

[pearl cedar]

Trading pets will be fun. Idleon will just become fraught with RWT

[untold saffron]

oh hype, red boaty, slab slots gone wild

[pearl cedar]

People trading doots for like $200 and a slime

[untold saffron]

I assume the pet becomes untradable once traded and the account needs to be x old or spent x amount

[timber jetty]

is there a website were i can calculate my crystal spawnchance?

[untold saffron]

IT and IE character pages

[pearl cedar]

IT tells you

[obtuse rover]

I just think trading will never become a real thing.
The week pets came out I had heard that people had already obtained pets through illicit means. If trading were enabled, the market might be flooded with black-market Doots. If that happened there'd be no more need to gacha a few hundred $s

[untold saffron]

right so thats every quest, 100 all skills, full ruby skilling cards that are achievable, all dreams, pet teams, full worship charge done before W6

have i missed anything

[rugged token]

The snail mail saving begins

[untold saffron]

I had a 23 snail then clicked gamba instead of encourage without thinking and reset him back to 22 now

[obtuse rover]

Oh interesting, is this IT?
I didn't realize the big idleon tools had these stats now.

[rugged token]

yeah I gamba'd on 23 snail like 5-6 times with no encouragement and didn't get reset so it was time to encourage

[rugged token]

yeah just IT

[sick sentinel]

IT been poppin off since w5 launch

[untold saffron]

IT has come such a long way even in the last few months

new stamp and bubble pages are sick

[obtuse rover]

Neat, thanks.

[unreal yacht]

I use both honestly

[untold saffron]

what's IE got over IT at this point? except the better UI granted

[obtuse rover]

I think the math is wrong on variable:
"Chance to succeed before reset."

I estimate your current setup gives you a ~47% chance to succeed before resetting, and on average you'll need to press the level-up button 12 times before succeeding.

Just so you can be aware when deciding to take the plunge and start gambling instead of encouraging.

[sick sentinel]

1 that i keep thinking of is skill mastery on IE you can hover and see char lvls while on IT you cant but thats about it

[obtuse rover]

It should make some intuitive sense if you see that your success chance is 8% and your real-reset chance is 8.87% that your chance to succeed before resetting should be below 50%.

[bright vine]

even ui is now similar

[unreal yacht]

certain things i really like the UI for

but i dont have a problem using both depending what i need

[pearl cedar]

Better ui is everything though

[untold saffron]

it would be, if the math on some of it wasn't off now like with cooking i believe

[unreal yacht]

and i hear IE dev is back

[pearl cedar]

Like you could have the best app ever, but if your ui sucks then people will use the better ui

[rugged token]

Thanks

[pearl cedar]

But I use both for whatever I'm doing. If I want to look at what is individually being done I use IT.. but a quick glance of whatever I prefer IE

[unreal yacht]

Yup yup same

I really like the dashboard in IT not going lie

[hexed elm]

was golden clock supposed to give me the daily reset again?

[sick sentinel]

thats what it does

[dim wind]

441 enemies, what are my odds

[hexed elm]

okay i wasnt sure, i never used it before i thought it just changed the time of the daily reset

i accidentally clicked it so i didnt get my post office or make sure my alch bubbles were good for nbnl :/

[sick sentinel]

the silver ones can change it by +/- 15 min

[warm pike]

I believe in you

[warm pike]

can u use 8 silver stopwatches

To keep getting pets

[sick sentinel]

companions has its own timer anyway

[warm pike]

How about to get 8 silver antiques

[sick sentinel]

nope its wont go back to before your reset

[bright vine]

if you are 24 hours left to reset and use a silver watch, your reset time goes over 24hours, so you don't reset again

basically you would prolong your next reset by 15 min

[warm pike]

I mean use it to go back in time 15 minutes

oh

that’s stupid

It legit does nothing👀

[bright vine]

it moves your reset time, actually pretty useful

I moved mine to 5 am

[warm pike]

barely

mine is 3 am rn

[spring jasper]

I moved mine to 4 a.

By using ES active

The lagg created by ES changing your day end time is so dumb

[slate vector]

What kinda keychains do people shoot for for certain activities? is there a list anywhere?

[untold saffron]

respawn, afk gain, drop rate

those would be the big 3

[slate vector]

Do those only show on certain tier 3 keychains?

And is there any way to reroll?

[untold saffron]

only tier 3's i believe and no re-rolls

all stat, and wis/agil/str % are useful for snapshotting

[stiff swan]

Is the 300 trash stamp from trash island, the stat Wall Street stamp

[untold saffron]

ye

[slate vector]

With the new armors coming in, what armor should I craft? Should I skip Void/Lustre/Diabolical and make Troll->Magma->Divine armor?

[untold saffron]

i believe lava has said the new armour will lead from divine

[azure spindle]

god I hope that's true

don't want to deal with another w4 boss armor set again

[untold saffron]

I'm currently running 7 divine sets and 3 magma

[slate vector]

All my chars are in Dementia so just planning out the future lol

[untold saffron]

you need a lot of lustre boots no matter what for skilling boots

[azure spindle]

yeah considering you've only got a few days I'd say just wait until it's out just to be sure before making any new armour

[untold saffron]

unless W6 has new skilling gear

that'd be hype

[stiff swan]

When you use candy, is the time jump only on the current char? Plus things like refinery, gaming, sailing jump forward?

[untold saffron]

its just for the character, and not anything like breeding or refinery

but does do worship and anvil

and forge

[stiff swan]

Interesting

Thanks

[untold saffron]

wait

forge only if you're on an archer with the skill

[azure spindle]

and only if that archer is killing things

[untold saffron]

imagine if candy did progress refinery, we'd never have any bars

[warm pike]

and it is just one

I have an invincible eye

Time hit wave 200😁

[dim wind]

2 down, 439 to go 😂

[warm pike]

2?

Jesus that’s gonna take all week

[dim wind]

yeah... can't really call this life in the fast lane

[warm pike]

minimum

[dim wind]

15T damage done in the last hour

113T to go for the next wave

[warm pike]

Nah actually u got it in like 6 hrs ish probably

Hopefully I can beat wave 30

bcz if I can then I can jump from spriggly storm to skullslip Hallie

[dim wind]

damage is adding up nicely, shouldn't take more than 2-3 hours

[warm pike]

Hallow

[warm pike]

W

atk speed is wild tho

[dim wind]

yeah, 0.46s for attack really helps

[kind epoch]

Wow! What level are your towers lol

[untold saffron]

re-doing card loadout for everyone for W6 gonna be painful

[dim wind]

74ish

[untold saffron]

they're a mess in general so i should be doing it anyway, so this is a good excuse

[dim wind]

might take a few days/weeks to get the new cards to a high-enough tier where they're actually better than current rubies too

[untold saffron]

get a few lucky card packs from the new bundle and we'll be golden

[warm pike]

if I hit 50 I’ll buy sum1 free gems out of my steam wallet

Or js give them money idc I’m js tryna get a high wave

😼

[dim wind]

goodluck

ice TD is the hardest one

[untold saffron]

it really is obxiously hard compared to acorn and soda

[dim wind]

ice > cans > rest

[warm pike]

I lost for sure I just skipped 3 waves getting cocky

[dim wind]

with rolling it's often fine

multikill will get em

[warm pike]

Multikill?

Oh u mean the air?

[dim wind]

the fact that a boulder kills multiple enemies

[warm pike]

Aoe

[cyan mantle]

Alr guys does multikill effect cooking shoes

[warm pike]

No

just top left item

base mats

[cyan mantle]

So mk only effects base mats?

[warm pike]

yeah

And red frisbees because wood mushrooms are unoriginal

[cyan mantle]

Then why do people get more glass shards the more in their kph

[warm pike]

Oop

[untold saffron]

more DR i assume

[warm pike]

Welp I skipped All the way to 40 from 33

Time to see if I lose or not

[dim wind]

Goodluck!

[cyan mantle]

Ok so really dr effects those type of drops

[untold saffron]

yeah

[warm pike]

I won

MWAHAHA time for my villain arc

[serene solstice]

fml

[warm pike]

I’m bouta go insane with souls after this

[haughty flower]

man the hp scaling in w5 is bonkers

[warm pike]

Next in 982 is absolutely bonkers🤷‍♀️

[dim wind]

Hey we're on the same wave

[serene solstice]

I am in to this TD for 6h now xD

[dim wind]

luckily it hasn't started the countdown for me yet

[warm pike]

That’s a timer?

[serene solstice]

you have 9999 seconds from the second you get in to wave 200

[warm pike]

For you to lose?

[dim wind]

yeahh

basically

[warm pike]

wthhhh

that’s not fair lowk

[dim wind]

it just means the next wave comes before you finish the last boss

[warm pike]

Ohh

I thought it js booted you out

[dim wind]

with my lagg I have no idea where I am, game is a slideshow

[warm pike]

😂

[serene solstice]

xD

32t hp it is possible

[warm pike]

What tf is the wave scaling after 40

[serene solstice]

but holy shit this could be close af

[warm pike]

It goes from like 1.8k a wave to 12k

[dim wind]

maxed equinox?

[serene solstice]

ofc

[dim wind]

then you might just be fine

[untold saffron]

what would idleon be without brick walls to hit

[serene solstice]

just running out on time ngl

[warm pike]

fr😶‍🌫️

[serene solstice]

doesn't look that good

[dim wind]

I started at 8pm thinking I'd be okay. It's 2am now and I really wanna tick off wave 200 and not have to come back and waste my evening again

[serene solstice]

yeah no its not possible 1t dmg in over 200 seconds only

[kind epoch]

My towers are finding 140ish to be that brick wall haha @mid 50s

[serene solstice]

lol I started at 8 pm too lmfao

[warm pike]

lol I actually have a unkillable eye from my kraken

I’m using one kraken and it’s can solo waves

👀

[dim wind]

might wanna do it on your Beast Master btw, the Roots is really helpful to freeze the monsters

[warm pike]

My bm worship is level 1

👀

I’ll get him to 50 for mastery later ig

[dim wind]

might still be better, in general you want to refrain from using the siphon souls talent on your ES

get some worship levels on all accounts first so you can upgrade the skulls

[warm pike]

I’m bouta use it to get souls rq for glauss and grey gatsby but I won’t after except for squishy souls

[dim wind]

Im getting 385% per account per day, which is about 4k charge every day combined, much better than if I were to siphon the energy and only level ES

[untold saffron]

you can balloon/pearl worship if you take them into a run too i believe, if you've used all your charge and want to upgrade a skull

[warm pike]

Wave 45 just hurt my feelings

5 regens?

My kraken isn’t strong enough

nvm the regens got cooked

54 zoomos vs my lineup sounds iffy

[dim wind]

yeah, you'll want one blue tower in there

basically one white tower to kill regen once you unlock it really helps too

then 3 krakens - 1 frozone - 3 krakens - 1 frozone

and some of the poison towers nearby

[warm pike]

NOOOOO😭 I lost on 50

Yowch

[dim wind]

what's your setup btw?

[warm pike]

I got 1.8k charge left do I play def again or js spam it out

[serene solstice]

I just gave up xD

[warm pike]

Souls?

[serene solstice]

but I used the one from guide

[dim wind]

understandable

[serene solstice]

idk didn't look on it just gone offline updating apex rn to play xD

[dim wind]

50 should be reachable with rollers depending on your tower level

[warm pike]

How many souls did u get from 200?

[dim wind]

hf

[serene solstice]

ty

[warm pike]

lol I’m better at apex than u🧗🏻

[serene solstice]

idc and as I wrote idk

[warm pike]

blunt asf but ok

[warm pike]

112k??

[tall dirge]

is it at all possible to auto frag picked up obols without destorying the ones i have saved

[warm pike]

That’s the easiest green stack I’ve ever seen

[dim wind]

should be more if I use the bubble gum

[warm pike]

Probably like 150 depending on ur food effect%

[warm pike]

nvm wtf I’m so behind

[warm pike]

How many cans do you abuse daily?

[dim wind]

at 4000% charge that's about 46m souls a day

[dim wind]

cans?

[warm pike]

clash of cans tower defense

[tall dirge]

is it at all possible to auto frag picked up obols without destorying the ones i have saved

[warm pike]

600M squishy souls sounds quite abusive

[dim wind]

oh, haven't done TD in months, just wanted to up the waves for world 6 release

[warm pike]

There is auto frag?

[warm pike]

real

[kind epoch]

Don't believe so. Best I can think of is popping one in reroll and one in upgrade and using those inventory spots to loot and frag obols

[warm pike]

What are ur MSA boosts?

[dim wind]

Goblin was 130 as well 6 hours ago, should be 200 soon and I'll work on the other ones tomorrow

[old crane]

Why is mine so much lower lol

[dim wind]

what's your efficiency?

[old crane]

Hmm not sure, they're not in skilling preset atm

[tall dirge]

whay? ive had to manually frag all the obols for those frag woundering if its possible it will just give me frags and destroy the obol for me

[dim wind]

no it's not, but if you collect many, the quick button in the bottom is helpful

[old crane]

Ill have to double check that later

[dim wind]

that's probably why

[kind epoch]

Just don't click one you wanted to keep by accident

That way lies sadness

[dim wind]

half an hour later, went down from 114T to 92T. Was hoping for faster equinox upticks

[kind epoch]

Was that eff on your BM?

[tall dirge]

wheeres the layout for the green souls map again ?

[dim wind]

can use mine

I made a small mistake, in the middle row though, it should be from right to left 3 krakens - 1 frozone - 3 krakens - 1 frozone - 2 krakens

(I did 4-1-3-1-1)

[snow light]

i dont even have enough patience or even the tower levels to do that much TD maybe when my towers are closer to 96-98

[dim wind]

And these are the upgrade paths I generally take

[snow light]

im taking this btw

[dim wind]

stormcaller BBBB this time because you can't afford to have 2

[tall dirge]

ummm whats going on under the mobs in terms of towers

[dim wind]

[snow light]

looks like 5 party towers

[kind epoch]

And mostly kraken with a couple? Frozen

[dim wind]

yep

3:1

that's the range where the frozones cover the entire length and there are no gaps

[static basin]

i squeezed my efficiency so i can wear a 2% skill afk ring without losing an efficiency tier, that's +22 ladles a day :D

[dim wind]

and heavilty rely on these 2

[echo crag]

how high did you get with that setup ?

[dim wind]

I'm on wave 200 at the moment

about 6 hours in

2 hours of that have been on wave 200 itself

I could "next wave" from boss to boss up to 140, after that the slog starts

[snow light]

is there a max sigil speed? and is a lot of it just coming from the vial bonus now?

[rugged token]

slightly higher then this, i'm missing 1 max vial not including salt vials

[dim wind]

yes there is a max, and it's indeed the 4 you're showing. The Rift boosting the vial is the main one you can keep working on

[snow light]

alright thank you i just wanted to know cause i wanted to rush the liquid regen and skill afk ones cause i feel those are important to max if any of the late game ones

[rugged token]

get on it asap it takes forever

[dim wind]

hehe, you're 1.5k ahead of me

[snow light]

im a long ways away

[junior arrow]

what do you mean takes forever, this is fine

[dim wind]

you're at 6.7 rate and 18.800 progress away from tier 1

[rugged token]

w6 sigil just gonna double sigil rate

[dim wind]

that's just 700 hours, less than a month

[snow light]

less than a month i forget sometimes how the magnitude of time is in this game

[split orbit]

what does researching do in gaming after you find chem?

[dim wind]

nothing

[junior arrow]

we already got that one, and luckily enough its not the last one, would be very sad if it was

[dim wind]

2 years for this one

[snow light]

can CC time just affect sigils just slightly like a 1/10 or even a 1/1000 is more than enough...

[tall dirge]

hey quick question why dont i get the music note from the music note island (sailing)

[snow light]

rngesus does not bless you simply put it is a rare drop from the island

just the other day i just got my first music note from that island

[tall dirge]

i only want one music note its not even an artifact so i get it up n running with no bubble left behind

[snow light]

for perspective i got the last island rare drop before i got 1 music note

[tall dirge]

hmmm is that common ? anyone else had that problem ? it a bug ?

[split orbit]

it took me 2 days to get a rare drop from an island just unlucky

[tall dirge]

u really dootlless ?

lmao different game

[warm pike]

Who isn’t atp?

[obtuse rover]

It's just frustratingly uncommon to get rare drops from sailing, especially when you really want them.

[tall dirge]

i got doot second week for free phew

[split orbit]

your sailing problem is because of doot

rngesus is balancing things now

[obtuse rover]

Doot is the most game-altering thing in Idleon, yeah.

[tall dirge]

doot may rivel alchemy

[obtuse rover]

It affects basically every facet of gameplay directly or indirectly, which puts it in a similar tier to alchemy in terms of how broad-reaching its impacts are.

And it pretty significantly boosts alchemy (indirectly)

[snow light]

id argue no just cause alchemy can be accessed by everyone but in scale of how it affects your account yes

[warm pike]

Sheepie best pet rn

[potent maple]

what happened to the weekly boss 5 skull thread in tipsntricks? 😦

[warm pike]

It’s down bcz of an exploit

[obtuse rover]

I think the thread was put on hold because some sort of oopsie happened with the design of the weekly boss. I don't know the details though.

[potent maple]

interesting

i don't know how to handle the boss making my OWN decisions lolz, i guess i'll wing it

[snow light]

is there a softcap for crystal spawn rate and if so what is it?

[warm parcel]

Just pick lots of buffs and sprinkle a misc or two in there, you’ll be fine.

[granite warren]

To my knowledge there isnt, its more a limit to the amount of spawn chance you can get

[snow light]

yeah cause my Vman can hit 1/10 and my DK hits like 1/32 or something like that

[obtuse rover]

The soft-limit is just based on however many bricks you can fit into your inventory to push stamp, at the moment.

[finite lake]

The limit is essentially how high you can crank your stamp and shrine

Plus discounts of course

[obtuse rover]

True, yeah. You could target-focus shrine by standing in town and spamming time candy to powerlevel shrine and assert dominance over other players.

[finite lake]

Or toss em in W4 town and finish that lab and div grind you've been procrastinating

[snow light]

i thought with moai head all you need to do is spam candies in that world?

maybe ill spam candies at clammies to get that vial up...

[echo crag]

moai make the shirne affect all world, but specify you need to be in the samemap/world as the shrine to level them up

[finite lake]

The wording is vague, but it means map and world

[slate vector]

Scarfs have been received

[obtuse rover]

I haven't paid attention to actually notice how Moai works.

Either way, it's far more intimidating of a flex to dump the candy in town.

[snow light]

yeah all my shrines are in W4 i am slowly but surely working towards W4 skills for skill mastery currently on fishing and soon catching hopefully with W6 there is a new bug that gives a massive boost to exp so it doesnt feel like a slog

[potent maple]

of course you wont be able to candy the new bug

[slate vector]

Is there a limit to how many BARS the furnace will score?

[obtuse rover]

Thankfully they won't have any candy left after spamming it all in W4 town

[obtuse rover]

Completed bars? No.

[slate vector]

Okay so if am doing claims on my SB's I don't need to take them out?

Just check the furnace

[snow light]

after i get all the golden twine i need for all the troll heads then i will gladly waste my candies in town

[obtuse rover]

You shouldn't need to check the furnace manually, I don't think? It's been a long time since I've checked on my SBs though...

[obtuse rover]

Correct, the bars will just chill and keep stacking in the forge until you collect them or the arm deposits them.

[untold saffron]

right, off to bed. got to re-do everyones card loadouts and star talents tomorrow then I'm set for W6

[slate vector]

thank you

[snow light]

oh yeah W6 drops tomorrow friday i forgot lol

[untold saffron]

not quite

[obtuse rover]

2 days in my timezone.

[slate vector]

2/16

What class is best to farm cards?

[untold saffron]

ES or bubo i'd assume, or candy on a SB

[snow light]

for bosses i thought it was Vman

[slate vector]

Not bosses

[obtuse rover]

Technically ES farms cards the fastest active.

You might consider using something else like a DK if you want crystal drops at the same time, though, for a small cut in speed.

Like statues and whatnot.

[dim wind]

nighty

[warm pike]

No void no mman no jman just beginner

[dim wind]

oof

[dim wind]

over 2 hours later and still on the same wave, halved the enemy HP

somehow still no timer

[granite warren]

Beeg health

[dim wind]

yeah...

[granite warren]

imagine if the equinox upgrade didnt exist, lol

[dim wind]

gonna have to hurry up now, timer to start at any moment

9999 seconds to finish the boss wave = 2.7 hours

[dim wind]

small difference 😂

[dim wind]

beeg damage

[warm pike]

Genuine question

Does multikill% affect cards?

[granite warren]

no

[warm pike]

I wanna active afk my es for cards

[granite warren]

multikill% only effects kill number and normal monster drops, basically nothing else

[dim wind]

Then why do I get card drops per 6, sometimes more?

[granite warren]

When you mean per 6, you mean per 6 mobs killed?

[echo crag]

high dr can do that for cards

[snow light]

how do i decide between higher mob respawn and dmg for speedruns? should i just go mob respawn? i am looking to make this a printing run btw

[granite warren]

multikill tiers help sample size as well, if you know what you want, check to make sure you hit a new tier if you would be close, else respawn, but thats only in general. I dont know where the specific breakpoints are

[snow light]

cool i will do that i didnt think to check before speed runs

[warm pike]

first time I tried to get 100 orb it was suggmas huzzah

[dim wind]

timer started 😦

[snow light]

is the timer like 9999 seconds or something like that?

[dim wind]

6T damage done in the last 30 minutes, 60T to go

[dim wind]

yep, 2.77 hours per wave

[snow light]

ouch

[dim wind]

Seems I wasted the last 3 hours for nothing

I wonder if you can use silve stopwatches to postpone the 9999s timer

[wind heart]

So, got to W5 a few weeks ago and after the third map, I'm missing damage, like for real. What can I do? Still haven't unlocked atom collider

[dim wind]

alchemy

[echo crag]

can check with the bot to see where to improve

[snow light]

but in all seriousness checking scolibot is probably the best way

[dim wind]

bot doesn't look for damage but yeh, still the best place probably

[echo crag]

i mean the general culprit beside alchy would be stamps, meal, sailing artefact, equinox

probably forgetting stuff

[dim wind]

ahaha it froze after 8 hours... what a waste of time

[prisma drift]

Talent levels are big

Make sure to have stuff booked

[pale crag]

[dim wind]

this is what I ended up

[prisma drift]

Don’t make me do it

[snow light]

now in dark mode

[echo crag]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blind-flashbang-light-mode-gif-21281004

[pale crag]

Don't

[vestal yarrow]

Im probably wrong but isn't ES able to have 2 gods active?

[pale crag]

I don't want to have a headache

[dim wind]

only did first map recently but this is where im at

[pale crag]

Ye

[raven fog]

I spent over 30k föurbos on tire 3 keychains to get the drop rate keychain

Yah ik

[fathom lagoon]

It’s almost Friday

[pale crag]

Its t2

[vestal yarrow]

how cause I have 2 ES that need to get extra stuffs

[raven fog]

💔

What else is in t2

[pale crag]

Es talent page last line 1st talent

[pale crag]

Nothing much

[raven fog]

T1

[pale crag]

I don't know if there's smt in t1

[noble sable]

T4

[pale crag]

Which tier gives stat %

[noble sable]

Probably t6

[pale crag]

Bro talking about w8

[snow light]

i finally feel like 1B is in reach

[vestal yarrow]

I love this because im at 76k so im just crying in a corner

[snow light]

that is just how it feels to be in W5 tbh and soon W6 when it comes out

got people from all ranges of the game

[vapid cove]

big increase but without food and 300% multi its tough. im only at around 25 mil per right now

[pale crag]

Close but far like me

[vestal yarrow]

what that there is just so much more I can do but im just not doing it?

[snow light]

honestly all of it came from alchemy for me mostly the logging bubbles i just powered those bubbles to level 500 each minus the afk% one cause i am focusing other souls right now

the left one is when i was at like 200 per level and the right is now at 500 per bubble and i have doot so it is kinda rough

[vestal yarrow]

yeah want me to link my IT cause its depressing

[patent hatch]

Good stuff gozu

Improving rapidly

[snow light]

you can but i cant guarentee i will help much it will be like the blind leading the blind here lol i suggest starting with this link and shooting for 80% in all bubbles and from there try to shoot higher and higher

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nkZiNGMwhEu59ZvlFjKEV7fqx_KBIEADOWi_t1nb65Q/edit?usp=sharing

[vestal yarrow]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=matthewtkchuk

[snow light]

thanks zamn it had been about 2 weeks since i did logs so decided to start

[patent hatch]

Waiting for world six and then I’ll do a resample myself

[pale crag]

Thanks for this

I am at 280mil i think

I need smt to focus on

[patent hatch]

Alchemy is the big gate keep of the game insofar

Makes or breaks accounts for the most part

[snow light]

books are my time gate rn cause of the talent limit of my stuff being mostly lower 120s-130s before rift/bear/ES family talent

[snow light]

this is all i get when i click your link btw

[vestal yarrow]

hu ok ill check it

[patent hatch]

Four more pickles and I finish the equi

Missed like two weeks form being away but almost there now

[snow light]

one a couple days right after W6 drops lol

[patent hatch]

Yeah feels so long now lol

[vestal yarrow]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=matthewtkchuk
It should work after around 30 seconds

that work?

[snow light]

yes

i will go through and let you know what you can do or at least what i did

[vestal yarrow]

ok thanks take your time

[vestal yarrow]

figured it out thanks

[finite lake]

Threw crystal and dr cards on my Bubo with choco and honestly, the statues are a nice addition and the crystals boost CC. Don't know why I didn't think about it before

Every spawn and attack spawns at least one crystal too since you kill so many at Citringes

[unkempt quest]

Finish your family obols

[vestal yarrow]

meaning?

[unkempt quest]

Easy stamp levels and bubble levels

Most people go for full dr

But it's nice to have a set for each skill

[pearl cedar]

Meaning this.

[finite lake]

Ideally rolled with +1 on each. There are better best in slot DR obols, but these are easy to get

[vestal yarrow]

Yeah I know that but what should I do about it

[unkempt quest]

Also mk obols are worthless

[finite lake]

Vman speedruns?

[unkempt quest]

You're missing a bunch of meals too

[vestal yarrow]

Ok well Im not farming obels rn so thats not something I care about rn

[vestal yarrow]

Yeah I pushed through w4 in about 1 month

[unkempt quest]

Well do it

[vestal yarrow]

December 13th was w4

[unkempt quest]

That's so much skill eff and damage and other nice buffs

Start getting your shiny pets going

[vestal yarrow]

Idk how to do that

Im missing a lot of key things that I never HAD to do so they never got done

[unkempt quest]

Honestly you should go back and look at some early game guides

[finite lake]

Breeding is only level 22, shinies aren't till 40

[vestal yarrow]

So what I just pushed way to fast?

[finite lake]

Kinda, which isn't a bad thing, but you've got a lot of catching up to do

If you want some graphics #bot-commands has a bunch that can help with specific skills

Also IE Auto Review will help too

Honestly, I didn't hit level 40 breeding till post Kattlecruk

[vestal yarrow]

yeah, I have probably 2 months that im not going to be playing the game more then 10 minutes a day so I will have that time to have things like this grinding

[finite lake]

By that time, you'll ideally want Goharut unlocked, so you can level lab and div at the same time and collect sailing and gaming daily. Also do post office and maybe max the boxes for those as well

Might not be possible, but that's the ideal

[vestal yarrow]

Yeah maxing post office would take me like 1.5 years

[finite lake]

Divinity would speed up your xp and point gain which is really nice. Gaming and sailing would give you a chance to give afk time to those skills, so they'd be beneficial. I believe those boxes have a max of 800

It'd be a couple days of a penning orders each. I think taking an order to 101 is around 130-150 boxes or something

[vestal yarrow]

I thought it was 300?

[finite lake]

Every box is 400 except for those three and Myriad which has a max of 10000 and is a sink for extra boxes after you max everything else

[vestal yarrow]

Well I can be happy about one thing I have 110k Gm kph

[finite lake]

I might have forgotten a 0 in the max of Myriad

[vestal yarrow]

lol 100000 max

[finite lake]

Gotta have some place to put boxes

[crisp pasture]

It's a fun time getting that amount of boxes

[finite lake]

I'm procrastinating hard

Just so many clicks

[mystic moth]

1/3ish of the way there

Easiest 2/3 tho for real

[snow light]

W1:
try to max out anvil points both monster mats and money
swap everything over to nails/thread (2/1 or 1/2 split however much you can when you log off and come back on to where it wont be full) for right now it isnt that the other items are not worth building it is just right now those will benefit you in both smithing levels and useage for skill leveling more importantly the skilling bubbles
have ore in all your forge spots (mostly talking about copper and iron at least i currently have by page 1-4 Dreadlo/Void/silver/copper and am considering swapping void and dreadlo to silver and copper as both are vials and you need 1B for lvl 13)
get around to all bribes when you can money can come from your Bubo when they are running CC time if not then your DK is a good replacement for now as you have void coins you should be fine in getting all your bribes from the piggy in W1
stamps just level up take time to go through mostly the skilling ones over the others right now as they will compound on themselves making you able to get more stamps for right now

W2:
take everyone out of waters and have them in cauldrons for right now currently unlocking all bubbles and getting max cauldron boosts is more important minus cost is a very big maybe only because most people dont upgrade it once they unlock boron which allows upgrades using atoms when bubbles require 100M my costs for all my cauldrons are about 100 across them all i would suggest not going higher than that if you REALLY need to but avoid this boost at all cost
if you are at W5 go and try to at least unlock all vials and shoot for lvl 4 (green liquid) if you use the 1 per slot trick you can get 16 seperate attempts
sigils DO NOT TOUCH THESE FOR RIGHT NOW THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS IN ALCHEMY FOR YOU TO DO

[snow light]

W4:
cooking and breeding are interlocked i will link a guide for the skills with this message and i suggest following that guide for both breeding and cooking it takes time for cooking to really pick up it's pace
Breeding as you have splicers for each character i suggest you get some more DNA for the W1 mobs at least if you want to unlock them and follow the guide for what pets to get
Lab: I would personally suggest trying to get each character to lvl 75 and while you are at it make sure each character is linked to goat so you can double down for both lab and divinity for W5
Rift: the most important thing in rift for you is to get to rift 16 so that you can unlock skill mastery and get all relevent skilling cards passive

W5:
not much i can really say here a lot of W5 skills is just time and RNG
divinity strat that people run is press left (1%/5%/10%) until the right option is 100% and then click that after
Gaming: timegated for later plants i would suggest just clicking it once every "harvest all" cause 1000 rolls at .01% is better than 1 roll at .1%
Sailing: Timegated and RNG based but i would suggest going for the
Tusk
Gold relic
10 AD tablet
Amberite
as these relics are Very important imo to get the snowball of compounding alchemy and other investments to start

General Stuff:
GET VMAN push your Mman just a little Vman is probably the best account boost give or take due to being so account support focused
Complete card sets and important cards
important card sets are:
Skilling AFK (Hard resources)
Skilling efficeiency (easy resources)
Fighting AFK (W5)
fight, drop, exp (Bosses,nightmares)
Shoot for better tools across all characters most importantly the skills they are going to have the most proficency with (warriors maxed pickaxe, mages maxed axes, archers max net) AND shoot for the best skull for each character because the skull at this point will give you more charge rate than the bubble will

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[vestal yarrow]

holy fuck thanks im gonna have to screen shot this and read it later

[snow light]

link the message to yourself and that bottom link is really useful for skills

[mystic moth]

Copy it and paste it in your own private discord server you already have made. Right?

[snow light]

that works too

[mystic moth]

Then you can use your own private emojis too

[warm pike]

https://bumtv2.idleonefficiency.com/

teehee

[vestal yarrow]

Also no w3 tips?

[snow light]

such stronk much wow

[snow light]

shoot hold on i already closed out of it gimme a sec i gotta retype it out

[chrome tiger]

can we use gold stopwatch power to speed up w6 release

[vestal yarrow]

ah ok yeah its fine

[mystic moth]

Shop buys and alchemy at best

Skills are likely not stopwatchable

[paper nova]

How do you increase breeedability multi

[mystic moth]

By putting breedability pets of that type into the fenceyard

[paper nova]

Lil green mushroom u look so breedable... 😮‍💨

[mystic moth]

https://tenor.com/view/jail-right-to-jail-right-away-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-gif-16177531

When you hatch new pets with the hearts on em if you out them in fenceyard itll increase tour breedability multi

[paper nova]

It makes sense ty

[mystic moth]

I didnt have to worry about it really until WAY later lol

[chrome tiger]

if anything in idleon doesn't make sense, well, \

clearly you've been playing a different game

[paper nova]

I just noticed a task for it. I don't normally pay much attention to breeding ( and its starting to hurt my progress lmao )

[sharp mauve]

How does Pokemon got their eggs anyway

[paper nova]

what

[mystic moth]

If breeding didnt have so much gains into cooking and just straight damage uhh id ignore it too

[paper nova]

I found out today you can only claim spices 100x a day.. Didn't matter before but now its annoying. thx lava -.-

[chrome tiger]

nothing in idleon makes sense in any way, just joking. like fighting monsters with pets for spice, that you then cook, etc

[sharp mauve]

Me stuck at not getting new spices for months 💀

[wide minnow]

Spice spillage, a startalent from w4 merit bypasses that restriction.

[sharp mauve]

Meanwhile Sailing progress be like 🏎️ 🏎️ 🏎️

[paper nova]

🤔 so could i do a lot of 2 minute afk gains and try and rush my spice claims ?

[mystic moth]

I can barely be bothered to do 2 main claim for actual decent gains

Let alone for spices

[paper nova]

its just to rush out the achivement in this case

[zinc bison]

I can't recall exactly, but I think it's after an hour for spice claims collection.

[mystic moth]

Honestly dont think that counts for the achieve

And the achieve is trash anyways so

[paper nova]

oh ya you are right

[mystic moth]

Who the fuck runs out of tab2 points

[paper nova]

ya it says by anymeans so i think the talent counts

i'm an achivement whore 🤷‍♂️

[tawny jetty]

At what point does dropping loads really fall off ? Like it seems like it’s almost not worth pumping after 1000?

[mystic moth]

Im 7k shy....... like thats wild

[paper nova]

bro what did u just say...

[snow light]

W2(cont):

Alchemy: What you should be focusing:
Big bubbles that affect skilling (most of these bubbles you want to get to lvl 185-186)
Small bubbles that affect skilling (get these to a decent point i say 80% with the sheets i sent)
Multiplicative bubbles (I consider these a little lower on the list it gets better the better your bubbles get of course but 1x1.01 is not as good as 2x1.01 so i suggest having a strong foundation before you start your multiplicative bubble journey)
Larrrryyyyy (just to lvl 501 dont touch this right now do it when you get the atom collider particle/atom)

W3:
Refinery balance it out for right now and try to keep the lower levels of it higher I will link an image to help you with levels
Building i would suggest getting the TOP row (just unlock atom collider) because they have the least amount of levels and the most boost to your account for the investment you make in them
Worship: STOP SYPHONING ON YOUR ES give each character their skill levels with this it is very important to get more souls faster due to higher level skull= more charge rate/max charge= more souls for more stuff
Prayers: max skilled dimwit as soon as possible i wouldnt worry about the -exp% for right now just making sure you can hit those higher resource drops and getting those resources are more important right now
printer: I would suggest moving some prints around as of right now i dont know when you last sampled but i would suggest trying to get resources that will let you level up skilling bubbles right now

[finite lake]

Progress

[vestal yarrow]

Thanks ill make sure to read over it tonight and try to start working on it

[mystic moth]

Its literally max claiming everyday for 100 days and i cant be bothered to do that

[paper nova]

the afk gains counts too

says by any means

[finite lake]

You're around 94% of the max value of the bubble. You can check on Toolbox

[mystic moth]

Ok so add like 16 lmao

[paper nova]

ya so it will shorten it. 100x claims takes less than 2 min

[mystic moth]

I check in way less than tapping max claims

[tawny jetty]

Ok so no reason to continue to push. Thanks 🙂

[mystic moth]

Its just straight up not worth it

[snow light]

use this for refinery right now cause having a constant supply of salt at your point is more important currently

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[tawny jetty]

Tehehe

[paper nova]

does that mean you have done 0 or completed? 😂

[tawny jetty]

It’s done.

[dense cosmos]

?

[paper nova]

noice

[tawny jetty]

I had to check. I was like oh I wonder where I’m at.

[paper nova]

its an equix cloud to upgrade pickle vial

[snow light]

im 7 days away myself

[tawny jetty]

Im sure I cheated cause of doot. Somehow

[mystic moth]

Im still like goddamn 50 Days out from pickle 2 becuase i didnt have shop2 quick ref open

[finite lake]

I'm 50 out, but 12 days till bobjoepickle 2

[snow light]

1 week away since i already bought my pickle today

[tawny jetty]

I hate doing dungeons. My equinox has all 3 solo dungeons up right now lol.

[mystic moth]

Same fr but i targeted them all at the same time-ish.

[warm pike]

I’m in the club

[finite lake]

I need 18 more rings and a bouquet for slab and I'm out

[tawny jetty]

Im level 49 dungeons. But like shits annoying af.

[mystic moth]

1 is easy as shit never did 3... but 3 easy as shit too if youre past lvl 40

2 is annoying asf

Took me 3 tries total to do 3 solo having literally never tried it

[finite lake]

2 wasn't that bad. Once I figured out you had to break the statues, I did it first try

Coin flip horn of the foal makes it a cake walk on DK

[mystic moth]

2 is hands down worst dungeon not even close

[finite lake]

I just wish I could get party hour runs solo

[warm pike]

W6 dungeon🥸

[tawny jetty]

Ima just Venmo one of you fuckers to do it for me.

[mystic moth]

To do what lmao

[warm pike]

😂

[tawny jetty]

Solo the dungeons ? lol I’m mostly kidding.

[wide minnow]

You do the coin flip to try for horn?

[tawny jetty]

Yeah I’m just lazy lol.

[mystic moth]

Oh jee yeah i mean if youre lvl 40+ ill do 1 and 3 lmao couldnt pay me to do 2 tho

[tawny jetty]

Lololol

Yeah I think I’m like 46 or 49

[mystic moth]

Take me an hour or 2 my billable rate is $135

[snow light]

guess im the weirdo for liking 2 because of the variety it provides...

[tawny jetty]

I hate it allllllll

I have 60k ladles. So I’m closing in on that lol.

[finite lake]

So close

[tawny jetty]

Oh nice.

[mystic moth]

Hows your sample and critter lookin

[finite lake]

haha

[warm pike]

please I need riftwalker

[snow light]

also did you want me to look at your account too? you never explicitly said anything about it and just linked it?

[warm pike]

no I was looking at my stuff saw the upload and was like it’d be pretty radical to post the link in the discord and I did😎

[snow light]

lol ok

[warm pike]

But I mean if u could 😁

[snow light]

yeah i dont mind gimme a few ill get back to you

[tawny jetty]

Time to get a cracking lol.

[warm pike]

🥳

[mystic moth]

[warm pike]

Seek help

[tawny jetty]

Lava is my therapist.

[warm pike]

that’s gold😂

[mystic moth]

I have a few other maxed ones too

[warm pike]

I am now gonna ascend to a higher plain of existence gimme a second

[finite lake]

That's nutty, I'm on my way but I'm missing two stamps lmao

[tawny jetty]

lol

[finite lake]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=Sin_Luz If anyone wants to take a look

[tawny jetty]

Going for that 3rd red hat brah

[finite lake]

Currently have everyone in lab leveling that and div till everyone is at 80 div. Near the end of that grind. Bubo is active afking with the gear from my second ES currently

[tawny jetty]

Why would you have anyone in the lab? Ewww

[mystic moth]

I done a few 2k+ balls from only daddies 💳

For funsies i guess

[tawny jetty]

Yeah but what’s the point?

I just got mine all to 100 for the bonus and moved on

[finite lake]

Leveling div faster. I had toons down at 40 when I started. Unlocking the last style for everything and then trying to shift to a 5 person lab set up cause no doot

[vestal yarrow]

Im just surprized that if I wanted to in about a week I could have better armor then you on almost all characters

[tawny jetty]

Ah, that checks, i still don’t know how yall play without Doot

Id uninstall

[finite lake]

Yeah, the nullo salts are killing me without Doot unfortunately. I could allocate a few to Omni but

I've got one set of Divine/Magma finally

[warm pike]

is this bannable?

[tawny jetty]

Lolol that’s a great name

[warm pike]

Thats not me btw js felt like I had to clarify

[raven fog]

U had to yes

[tawny jetty]

I still have 1000 balls left lol

Still going lol

[vapid cove]

bruh wtf is wrong with this game lol I spent like 3 months sailing for an eldritch and I swap to something else and I get 3 in just today

[glacial kestrel]

Doing onyx on blood berserker, totally suckssssss

[warm pike]

This is me

[finite lake]

Just missing that and Slug lmao

[tawny jetty]

I got another doot 2 weeks ago

[warm pike]

sure is a lot of balls

[mystic moth]

Pain

[tawny jetty]

Slug is good

[vestal yarrow]

Just got amerok obel so thats somewhat helpful

[finite lake]

Honestly, I got ram. I can't complain

[warm pike]

For 35 minutes ofc

[tawny jetty]

Ram is so good lol

[vestal yarrow]

wdym

[mystic moth]

Ive had multi dupes of all except doot (1 pull) and have less pulls than this

[warm pike]

What level is ur highest lvl char?

[vestal yarrow]

170 ES

[warm pike]

Oh then amarok obol probably won’t last that long 35 minutes might be a stretch

[vestal yarrow]

So what do I do?

[warm pike]

Nothing just keep it until u get something better ig

[finite lake]

The urge to drop $20 or $50 is strong cause the benefit is so great, but I'm holding. I ain't got the cash to spend lol. I'll hit that spin sometime in the next two years

[warm pike]

like chizoar obols they are my pride and joy

When is riftwalker coming back

I js got paid and I want some more dmg🧗🏻

[paper nova]

how good do your towers have to be to get to wave 50 without krakens?

[warm pike]

pretty good👀

[tawny jetty]

Probably like 65?

It wasn’t that bad

[finite lake]

Saving up for that last kitchen cause I'm tired of looking at it

[paper nova]

how much is it?

[mystic moth]

Pain bro but i respect it

[tawny jetty]

Why you so broke Exodus?

How many gmush you killed?

[finite lake]

Like 660m I think. All my money has gone into Multitool

Bubos done a bit a work in the last hour or two tho

[tawny jetty]

You gotta put someone in the gmush farm bro

[mystic moth]

Hit me up in exactly 12 hours +- 5 minutes and ill Venmo/paypal you $40 to do with what you please

[paper nova]

pretty crazy how lots of people in w5 make easy godshards per hr and early w5'ers still don't know what a green money is 😂

[tawny jetty]

I have thousands of the final currency lol

[finite lake]

I appreciate it, but save your money

[mystic moth]

My money is fine lmao

[tawny jetty]

I just leave one person farming gmush constantly

He only kills like 2.2m an hour or something but he’s been doing it for awhile lol

[mystic moth]

Do it or dont do it i dont care but if you tag me in the time frame ill honor it - feelin generous

[tawny jetty]

Different between early game and mid game is huge lol

[paper nova]

https://tenor.com/btQie.gif

[tawny jetty]

It’s absolutely nuts how like I’m happy with my 22k str or 23k int, and then someone posts 23,000 levels of the achy bubble like Jesus Christ

Gap between mid game and end game is even bigger

[slender sandal]

time/effort in an incremental game are forever undefeated

[finite lake]

I'm at that point where things are becoming atomable, but I don't have big enough samples for atom production or to hourly click, so I'm sorta gated there. I wanna get larry to 501 but it's expensive

[hexed elm]

is the best use for early game ladles to upgrade the cheapest to level food at a time?

[slender sandal]

larry is a massive upgrade though since it guarantees 2 levels per click once you hit that number

and at this point assuming you'll be walking into w6 there are usually low hanging fruit in new worlds to kick up your stats/samples/etc

[paper nova]

If i re-used mine i would've gotten a little more chicken for dmg and also used for new recipes

[slender sandal]

so in a week you'll improve a lot

[snow light]

W1:
Stamps level you stamps and unlock stamps you can get them from all the little piggies on all maps
put something anything in your forge copper/silver at least if not the highest in need ore you have
Anvil swap everyone to thread/nails (2/1 or 1/2 or 1/1 if you dont have hammer hammer on your characters) this is for alchemy and anvil levels
unlock your anvil points mobs/money

W2:
Alchemy:

I can not see if anyone of your characters are in water but no water right now just let that passively come back
focus on unlocking all bubbles/ maxing cauldron boosts (one exception here is cost only if you have boron in atom collider)

bubbles to focus on
Big skilling bubbles to lvl 185/186
small skilling bubbles to 80%
multiplicative bubbles to a certain point eventually
larry (get to 501 ASAP after you unlock boron from atom collider for more bubble levels)

unlock all your vials and get them to level 4 there is a trick to unlocking them faster just have a full inventory page and shift click them in front of cauldron and you should get a few guarentees here and there
DONT TOUCH SIGILS OR WATER RIGHT NOW reason being is you are not making enough resources to use all your water if your water is empty then you can throw a couple characters on them but get them back in cauldrons eventually

[slender sandal]

cooking speed ladles early never hurt, especially cabbage

[hexed elm]

i got 22t chicken and 9t cooking speed right now, should i use them on more chicken?

[snow light]

W3:
Construction:
max the TOP row (minus atom collider just leave this building at level one) is your best friend and the best bang for your buck in total account boosting
follow the infinite salt guide right now all your salts are messed up at your point you want infinite salt generation rather than high salt ranks

Worship:
DO NOT SYPHON ON ES
you want more skill levels on your characters because
skill level = higher skull = more charge rate/max charge = more souls

level skilled dimwit to max when you can help yourself to it

W4:

Cooking:
this skill is closely tied to breeding you want to get all meals to lvl 11 for diamond chef right now and focus on unlocking to that point in your cauldrons at least

Breeding:

Follow the linked guide as it is better at explaining than I am

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

Lab:
I would focus on getting every character to lvl 75 to get all the nanochip slots open and then from there you can start doing other things as well but you dont need all your characters in Lab just a couple and swap them out every so often

[slender sandal]

GET DOWN MISTER PRESIDENT

[hexed elm]

yeah i got my cabbage to 24

[snow light]

W5:

Divinity:
unlock goat send them back to the lab for double duty

Sailing:

most important artifacts if you want to focus artifacts (imo) of the first 4 islands
island 1: Tusk
island 2: gold & lamp
island 3: emerald
island 4: 10AD Tablet

Gaming:

timegated mostly
Research early levels is ok to get a decent percentage the last 2 or 3 plants you want to roll .01% or every "harvest all"

General Stuff:
Cards level them up they are a HUGE contributer to your stuff later game and will always be relevent important cards and card sets are:

Easy resources:
Hard resouces:
W5:
Bosses and nightmares:

Important cards are:
Amarok
CAmarok
Bunni (trapping)
Boops

deck out your toons with the best skilling gear they can equip and that you can make with little to no hassle (at least max for the respective skilling class pickaxe for warriors/axe for mages/nets for archers)
Equipmentwise shoot for a full chizoar set for right now if anything since that will give the most bang for your buck (usually boss gear is the best in slot for most gear)

[short sparrow]

I can one shot troll now

[tawny jetty]

On nightmare?

Oh i thought you meant the w5 boss

I’m like wtf, lol

[hexed elm]

my plan was to use all my ladles on the cheapest to level foods so i can get the most out of my vman talent, then when im out of ladles cook chicken until it takes 1 ladle to upgrade something

then do w4 colo and repeat

[tawny jetty]

Bobbi, if you have bonuses on levels from vman than id go up and down the way to level things as fast as possible

If you dont have bonuses from levels then focus on speed upgrades

[hexed elm]

wdym by up and down

[tawny jetty]

Start at turkey and work your way down using like 100 ladles at time

Until they stop leveling fast

Then when you get to the bottom go back to the top

ONLY if you have bonuses for cooking levels

[hexed elm]

i dont really have any cooking levels on anyone other than my bb atm

hes lvl 26

i wasnt planning to afk cooking on anyone atm

still pushing for 6 lab

[tawny jetty]

This is what I mean.

[hexed elm]

oh meal levels yeah

[short sparrow]

My bonus is ,,,, 7% rn I think lmao

[snow light]

stonks

[hexed elm]

i have 793 meal levels atm for 178%

[tawny jetty]

That’s still big.

[hexed elm]

yeah its a lot more than i expected before using my ladles

[tawny jetty]

So I’d focus on getting meal levels instead of focusing on cabbage or something g.

[hexed elm]

i went from about 200b cooking speed yesterday to 9t atm

[tawny jetty]

What does stonks mean lol

[hexed elm]

yeah thats what im doing, just wanted to make sure i was doing the right thing

[sick sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

[tawny jetty]

I feel like a boomer now, Kathy

[short sparrow]

Dammit beat me to it lol

[hexed elm]

got my first pair of sheek scrubs

[open lava]

i'll reach kruk in the next hour

[hexed elm]

should i use the upgrade stones on my vman for more luck?

[snow light]

gratz

[snow light]

that is what i do

[hexed elm]

yeah i think thats the play

[warm pike]

👀

[open lava]

thanks

[warm pike]

What talent is this?

[tawny jetty]

Vman

[snow light]

Vman Mman upgrade when you hit lvl 150

[open lava]

vman's blood marrow

[warm pike]

No I know that what is it?

[tawny jetty]

I need to take it to 245 now that I have that, just realized its only 220

[warm pike]

oof😾

[warm pike]

I’m almost there I been doing my death note so I can skip that part of the quest but I think I’m gonna get 150 before I can finish desert

[tawny jetty]

I mean cooking gets boring when you’re trying to go from e28 to e29 lol

[snow light]

get some Gmush kills too you are gonna need them if not then candies are gonna be your best friend soon

[open lava]

gonna get to 50 b speed once i finally get that superbit

[tawny jetty]

I’m closing in on 10b gmush i think,

[snow light]

meanwhile i barely have 1.7B

[winged lance]

Did IE got an Update recently?? Theres Onyx Statues now

[hexed elm]

yes it did

there are also some bugs with it

[tawny jetty]

Nevermind I’m not that close to 10b

[snow light]

closer than me

[tawny jetty]

Yeah but how many wood mushrooms?

lol

[snow light]

the entireity of my W1 is just bad only Gmush looks clean

[tawny jetty]

You’re beating me on wood mushrooms lol

[snow light]

my candy wallet hurts from that dont remind me

[tawny jetty]

I have w1 w2 and w3 done and I haven’t started wood mushrooms yet lol

[finite lake]

Lmao, that's my next venture before W6

[snow light]

wood mush seems like a candy or just afk all toons on there for like 2 weeks and see how you do tbh

[tawny jetty]

Even with most of my toons doing Trillions of damage its still gonna take forever

[finite lake]

All toons minus Vman. Don't make that mistake

[tawny jetty]

Why not vman?

[snow light]

my toons do billions at best

[finite lake]

Speedrun resets death note to 2m

[tawny jetty]

lol this is did not know

I did not*

[finite lake]

Yeah, so if you have like 100m Gmush kills on Vman and do a speedrun, every death note will be set to 2m

[tawny jetty]

So if I’ve killed 1b of something on vman it goes back to 2m?

[finite lake]

It's something coding wise to make the portals work

[tawny jetty]

Id uninstall if i lost all my death notes

[finite lake]

Yeah, seen a few posts about people losing like 100m kills or something and their eclipse skull and the answer is always vman

[snow light]

only Vman kills not other character kills

[tawny jetty]

Ahhh ok

[slender sandal]

vman belongs skilling 😄

[tawny jetty]

My vman doesn’t do shit that makes sense lol

My vman is currently farming smuggas cause I’ve stopped caring about them

[finite lake]

Pop him out for some crystal island every few days

[tawny jetty]

His drop rate is 15 so eventually hell get those gloves lol

[snow light]

my Vman needs to do 1T dmg before i consider taking him into Ckruk cause i dont wanna spend 12-15 mins microing and losing hope when a single mole gets through

[tawny jetty]

My BB does 1T damage, and that was annoying af

I haven’t killed on him vman yet on nightmare….

My fucks dont go that high

[snow light]

I think BB might be a little worse that Vman just cause his AOE is on a longer CD than Vman but at the same time BB has more attack skills in general so he can take out more mobs

[tawny jetty]

DK at like 2b can take Kruk on nightmare

[snow light]

if i wanted to fight nightmare kruk i would probably do it on bubo with gloves on just for the principle cause he uses gloves more than any other weapon for me right now

[tawny jetty]

You gotta kill him on every har

Char*

On nightmare

[snow light]

yeah i know that is the only one i havent done yet

[tawny jetty]

Yeah, my DK does a decent amount of damage, but still can’t 1 hit him lol

[snow light]

i dont expect to 1 tap Ckruk for a long time

maybe when i get to like 500T dmg

but till then no hope for 1 tapping rn

[tawny jetty]

I mean he dies in less then a second but I’m hitting him with like 4 things at once lol

[obtuse rover]

In a couple days some people may lose some skulls in DN because when lava changes the portal requirements in worlds (to make it easier to catch-up) it lowers your DN score by that amount.

[tawny jetty]

At 1T damage you hit for about 70T

[snow light]

my highest dmg character does like 50B right now

on stat board before everything and actually hits for like 200B

[tawny jetty]

Depending on crit shit but whatever its rough number

Your crit low?

[hexed elm]

is there anywhere that says the the amount of pixels the shortest distance from feature to feautre is in the lab?

[snow light]

no i have 200%+ on all characters when i am in fighting setup

[tawny jetty]

And your crit damage is like 3?

Or like 2?

You should hit higher than that

[snow light]

idk i dont look at my dmg numbers too closely lemme check my ES real quick since i am active farming statues on it

[tawny jetty]

I had to look mine up to find out no hate

[tawny jetty]

lol your ES has higher crit chance than mine

But my crit damage is closer to 3

[snow light]

i probably gotta level that crit dmg bubble up a little honestly

[tawny jetty]

But nice drop rate

[snow light]

farming statues of course i need good DR

[tawny jetty]

World 3 farming is hell

[snow light]

tell me about it i have to filter out the normal drop since it fills my inventory too fast

[tawny jetty]

Yeah, even with 100k per stack it fills up your inventory too fast

Damn i gotta get my movement speed up too

Your movement speed is waaay higher than mine

[snow light]

honestly it is just like 1 or 2 potions and an onyx feasty statue that really is what it is

[tawny jetty]

Potions?

[snow light]

my usual food setup for right now

[tawny jetty]

Ohhh lol

[patent hatch]

Get rid of the cheese and exp potions

[finite lake]

Ooh, W2 boss talent

[patent hatch]

And get kebabs

[open lava]

140 m should be more than enough for normal kruk right

[snow light]

depends on which character but i would believe so

[tawny jetty]

On what char

[open lava]

bubo

[tawny jetty]

Yes

It’ll take awhile

But you’ll be fine

[finite lake]

Do you have the W2 boss talent?

Weekly boss I mean

[sour oasis]

Ready to farm glass shards to juice my mason jar

[snow light]

all on my BB right now for Schow it i take off what i have on him it brings it down an MK tier

[patent hatch]

Ahh fair

[snow light]

i dont have midas on because of portal obviously

probably should max those other two talents next to it right?

dont active ES too often

[tawny jetty]

I almost never active ES

[obtuse rover]

It'd be rad if Lava one day makes some further improvements to desync while active ES (or other classes that can cause it)

[finite lake]

The damage one can be fairly nice. It's 3.33%, 18 clouds giving 60% damage

[snow light]

[hexed elm]

do people bother making sure their lab is 100% activated when using worship charge on every char?

[finite lake]

Stamps at least

[hexed elm]

[finite lake]

Pyrite Navette doesn't hurt if you have it. Saves some food

Honestly don't think I used a single one in my last spree

[hexed elm]

good thing i have a long time until my charge is all full :)

[snow light]

i personally gamba'd for the gems in lab cause you can't get repeat gems

[finite lake]

Once you have the gems you want, I'm honestly thinking about doing chips

Trophy and bottom right card doubler will not be in the shop for the next year

I think Pendant is 40 weeks out

[snow light]

i wish you luck i just want more than one set of card doublers just cause that would be nice

[finite lake]

Lowkey, could give it a shot

[snow light]

gl gl

[finite lake]

Another skill efficiency ain't bad

[snow light]

i spent like 3-4 weeks worth just rolling for these card doublers