#lategame-chat-w5๐ŸŒ‹-w6๐ŸŒธ

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noble sable
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Buy it

autumn hollow
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That AFK rate is.... low though

noble sable
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Or are you poor?

terse yacht
unreal yacht
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worth

autumn hollow
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Can you add some starsigns or cards or keychains or...

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The AFK kills talent on page 1

terse yacht
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Ohhhh, I might be able to change starsigns but I haven't really done much dungeons lately

autumn hollow
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Getting your out-of-dungeon stats maxed out would be very useful

cerulean hemlock
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Time to get that damage

terse yacht
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Yeah that's true, I have about 711 boosted runs on my account rn

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Lol

snow light
noble sable
terse yacht
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I haven't maxed out my dungeon and non dungeon stats yet, nor have I gotten emperor obols yet

muted plover
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finally gains

terse yacht
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I slack on dungeons a lot

cerulean hemlock
snow light
terse yacht
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Fair enough

cerulean hemlock
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Then do opals

glass flax
snow light
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^^

cerulean hemlock
glass flax
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I don't remember mine, but I feel like it's nowhere near lol

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Minigames are hell

cerulean hemlock
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I've killed 100+ Chizoar angryuganda Not a single blankie

glass flax
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this one feels much easier on a tablet tho

cerulean hemlock
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All I have are two stupid obols

snow light
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rng is a skill in this game

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just like the fact that having doot is a skill issue GuyMontag

rapid shale
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big nug

autumn hollow
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Nice!

rapid shale
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10x from my last

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ty everyone

glass flax
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That's a nice little nugget

noble sable
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Could be me

glass flax
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Maybe I can surpass Hampter

cerulean hemlock
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Hey look, I found the new obol tab

glass flax
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no gold statues?

noble sable
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Hes noob

glass flax
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another skill issue I believe?

untold saffron
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finished goldric, crystalswine, centurian and cowbo on every character PogPig thats like 40-50 days of candy

cerulean hemlock
noble sable
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wow

glass flax
noble sable
untold saffron
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run around with the arrow keys

glass flax
cerulean hemlock
noble sable
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It's not that

untold saffron
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are you on mobile

rough wasp
noble sable
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Yes

untold saffron
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i couldnt' do it on mobile either, it dropped a lustre coin

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and didn't progress

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had to use steam

glass flax
noble sable
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So a bug only on mobile, incredible

untold saffron
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theres a lot of themgrumblo_thumbsup

noble sable
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What a magnificent game coe

autumn hollow
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I forgot how frustrating W2 dungeon is

glass flax
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Not even close! happy

untold saffron
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have every character at 220 quests completed nearly, need all dat skill effi

glass flax
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I haven't managed to do a single minigame achievement tho

untold saffron
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i hate them all though

glass flax
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same

cerulean hemlock
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This was on PC btw

glass flax
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Jokes on me

cerulean hemlock
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Hello, I would like to ask you about your Extended Car Warranty

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Thank you for your time Grumblo_Pray

noble sable
cerulean hemlock
noble sable
cerulean hemlock
untold saffron
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theres a star talent to give 0.1% effi per quest completed

frank harbor
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Daffuqqqqqww

cerulean hemlock
untold saffron
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studious quester

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quest chungus for luck per quest too

cerulean hemlock
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Ohhh....

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๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ I'll have to unlock that one from the quest later

red sluice
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does upgrading coinflip in dungeon do anything

untold saffron
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I don't mind them, the chains that give 24 hour candy's and shit are solid

red sluice
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im assuming it stays at 50/50 chance right

cyan mantle
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Oh fuck sake I thought it went the oranges, fire spirits and then mole but now I realised its oranges, lampars, fire spirits then moles ๐Ÿ˜ 

crisp pasture
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Rip

cyan mantle
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How much will the portal requirements drop when w6 comes out

lost depot
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Is there any manipulation you can do to get this? Or you can only stack DR and hope for the best?

crisp pasture
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Think they dropped like 1/10 in the past. Hard to remember though

cyan mantle
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๐Ÿ˜  that's not enough

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It must drop 5/10

lost depot
crisp pasture
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No. I'm saying 90% so 1m becomes 100k

cerulean hemlock
cerulean hemlock
lost depot
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1st try lmao

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thx guys

crisp pasture
cerulean hemlock
cyan mantle
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Does more than 100% afk gain rate still boost the kills

crisp pasture
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I was lazy and didn't say red ๐Ÿ˜ข

cyan mantle
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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I just hit 100% afk gain rate and now I have to hit more

cerulean hemlock
cyan mantle
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8.6k on oranges

plucky edge
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what do you guys think about the new weapons?

cyan mantle
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It's all marble/stone the new stuff

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New marble golem boss or amaroks family?

cerulean hemlock
cyan mantle
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Leave me alone I just hit the yellow numbers like 2 days ago alr ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

cyan mantle
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Plus I really need to upgrade qs alot

rough wasp
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Another duck

cerulean hemlock
cerulean hemlock
cyan mantle
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We must get ducky and philly to fight to see who is the superior duck

snow light
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how many rolls you think i need to unlock the next bubble at .8%

cerulean hemlock
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Ducky wins

hexed elm
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48

noble sable
hexed elm
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not bad odds tho tbh

cerulean hemlock
cyan mantle
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6a can u help me get the last flurbo dungeon things for the opal ring

crisp pasture
noble sable
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my char is in drip

snow light
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welp time to wait for next CC that comes through...

noble sable
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Full iron

snow light
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ill stack up to 130+ i guess then

crisp pasture
cerulean hemlock
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Cmon, fighting is fun

cyan mantle
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AAAAAA

noble sable
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

cerulean hemlock
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Also, I'm out of passes

cyan mantle
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Frog

snow light
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i can help

hexed elm
snow light
hexed elm
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nice

snow light
hexed elm
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are you going for w6 bubbles?

cyan mantle
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But I need like 4k more GuyMontag

snow light
# hexed elm nice

tryna prep for W6 i believe getting all the bubbles so that i just go back on water for CC time

cyan mantle
hexed elm
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sounds good

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youll get there sooner than you think

noble sable
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It reminded me of Ramiel

cerulean hemlock
noble sable
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Fun.

snow light
cyan mantle
hexed elm
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hopefully there will be something that makes later bubbles apply to nbnl Grumblo_Pray

autumn hollow
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Good news is, I beat Snakenhotep 3 again. Bad news is, I only got like 5 wazams, and I need another 57...

sick sentinel
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the bubble atom?

autumn hollow
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Also, this dungeon takes forever...

hexed elm
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do you have a party shydow

autumn hollow
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Was doing it solo atm

hexed elm
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if you ever need another im r43 dung

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always looking for opportunities to do any of them

snow light
autumn hollow
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Nice, R46 here. It isn't terribly difficult to do the tasks, just some of them are silly and almost impossible to do wazam

hexed elm
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yeah

cerulean hemlock
autumn hollow
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I finished off the 1000 tasks in W3 dungeon the other day, that was easier than this =/

cerulean hemlock
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Which class are you using again?

hexed elm
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i have very little experience in w2 and 3 dung cuz i never found a group

cerulean hemlock
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ES is good if you haven't done slabbo yet

autumn hollow
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Currently ES, but I could swap to another. Not all chars are well rounded though

cerulean hemlock
hexed elm
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dk is pretty reliable

cerulean hemlock
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You might get a bonus slab or two

autumn hollow
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My DK is one of the least well rounded, unfortunately

cerulean hemlock
hexed elm
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w1 dk clears for sure

cerulean hemlock
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Just throw a point or two into each attack talent

autumn hollow
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For W1, its fine. For W2, it isn't ideal because of the skilling tasks

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Gotta get better skills and tools for him before I try that

hexed elm
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if only vman was better for dungs ๐Ÿ˜ญ

chrome tiger
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worth candying before w6?

hexed elm
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i dont think you could

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you would have to use candies in the town no?

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otherwise you lose the progress

chrome tiger
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i forget which thing lets you level shrines anywhere in the same world

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but i have it

hexed elm
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i forgot about that, idk where it comes from

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my shrines have been in w4 for so long i forgot almost everything about them lol

sharp wind
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I see lava

hexed elm
hexed elm
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nice

prisma drift
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It maxes at 150% afk gains

vagrant mountain
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time for the next island ๐Ÿซก

sick sentinel
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visit the deathnote and flip through all the pages with a char

unreal yacht
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check your cards

sick sentinel
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then talk to the npc

glass flax
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I saw somewhere someone say that if it still doesn't work, you need to go through the pages in the deathnote

next locust
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Yeh you need to access the pages for them to count

hollow gazelle
next locust
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Rip not enough pickles ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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Ragequit time. Failed account

hollow gazelle
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time to sell them I guess

autumn hollow
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Im 2 days behind you Wanheda. I should get vial 2 one day before the release

cyan mantle
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This is a good relic one right?

hexed elm
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i would say its a decent chain

sick sentinel
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the drop rate is good yeah, sadly the mk is only flat not per tier

hexed elm
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yeah if only

sick sentinel
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worth using still if its better than your others

cyan mantle
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Alr

hexed elm
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tbh multikill on chains could probably use a buff

frank harbor
sharp mauve
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I have a stupid question, is a Doot-less account possible to print 1 billion Log sample thanks to Alchemy?

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Thanks!

pearl cedar
sharp mauve
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On Toolbox? xD

pearl cedar
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On camp's LB

sharp mauve
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Link pls lol

unreal yacht
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wow thats insane

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howwww

pearl cedar
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A lot of clicking

hexed elm
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ngl i expected them samples to be higher

sharp mauve
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Dang i cannot see their stats

pearl cedar
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People can get 3b+ now but nobody is sampling atm

sharp mauve
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I keep getting this page lol

pearl cedar
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Should load eventually

hexed elm
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give it a minute

sharp mauve
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๐Ÿ›Œ

pearl cedar
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It took mine all of 2 seconds to load soo ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

hexed elm
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same

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ive been getting that screen the past few days then a few seconds later it loads

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maybe cache/cookies/hardware acceleration/ad blockers Shrug

pearl cedar
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Maybe you should buy him coffee then he'll let you in

hexed elm
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true

fallen torrent
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Hi there buddha

pearl cedar
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Oh I have a faster boat actually

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I should put the speed captain on boat 1 I guess

vagrant mountain
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this is my fastest boy

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i got everyone on loot value except 2 captains

gray pagoda
vagrant mountain
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i think my average ship is around 270

runic girder
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Purple is 200 iirc, red is 300

fallen torrent
pearl cedar
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Oh yeah now where getting there

runic girder
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Idk why but 2.6b oak sample as number 1 is lower then i would have expected

arctic kraken
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Yo can i get someone to say Hi next to the pot snek?

pearl cedar
fallen torrent
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2.6 is a lot ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

runic girder
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I know its a lot

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But its THE best

dapper prism
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alchemy has some big diminishing returns over time it gets kinda impossible to push besides main stat

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and the more mainstat you have the less is affected too in proportion

vagrant mountain
pearl cedar
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Getting to 2b is a lot, getting to 2.5b+ is pretty much impossible unless you no life omni clicks

dapper prism
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Most likely yeh, unless it's all standalone content kekW

pearl cedar
dapper prism
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Yeh not much reason to resample, 71 days and going

autumn hollow
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Do you guys think I got enough RNG orbs?

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^ What 6 RNG vouchers does to a guy

dapper prism
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Id be too lazy to even click all those orbs

unreal yacht
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sheesh

fallen torrent
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buddha didnt even notice my hello ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

pearl cedar
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I'm gonna resample prob day 1 of w6 but not a try hard sample

fallen torrent
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he doesnt approve me

pearl cedar
fallen torrent
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i mean, 3 week to get 54 GS is impressive right.

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RIGHT?

cyan mantle
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I'm gonna try to farm some statues whats the best w1 mob to farm statues

paper sail
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DK at Beans

dapper prism
pearl cedar
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Could get 100 in a day if starting from 0

fallen torrent
pearl cedar
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That's pretty good

fallen torrent
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soon to be 197/198

runic girder
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In the tired mole last quest, is kattlecruk cape the wings?

fallen torrent
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900k beholder statue left, 3M average strenght potion, and.... yuck.... 13m red small pot

runic girder
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It says 'get' so if i own one already i have to get another one right

pearl cedar
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13m red small pots is only like 5-700 hrs of candy

paper sail
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It must drop for that specific character after accepting the quest, yes

runic girder
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Aah bummer

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Thanks for the info

paper sail
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The neck you can trade around between characters

fallen torrent
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yeah im low on candy because uhm

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i did like bunch of gmush kill/void bar stacking/goldric

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also wanna do statue/average strenght potion before going back to candying away

gray pagoda
fallen torrent
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purple is before red

cyan mantle
fallen torrent
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lab chips are equipped with doubler for crystal spawn chance double?

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(for the cards

hexed elm
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choco chip drops feb 29th

fallen torrent
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did you level up your stamps high enough?, do you have choco chips?

cyan mantle
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I won't be getting choco chip

fallen torrent
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try to get it you got time

cyan mantle
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I need like 100k spurs and I'm still trying to unlock cheese

fallen torrent
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then get all your team on Spurs, lvl up all their crafting lvl using money/ressources

hexed elm
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make that your number 1 priority right now, trust us

fallen torrent
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and put all in speed

hexed elm
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this is a very rare opportunity to get this chip

fallen torrent
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Choco chip is worth it.

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otherwise you might be sitting for a good month+ before it comes back

hexed elm
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probably longer than that yeah

fallen torrent
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Starting from when it goes away 28 feb

normal minnow
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how do i beat biggie in breeding Soulface

dapper prism
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month? sometimes several months xD

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over half a year type thing xD

normal minnow
vocal flower
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So idleon efficiency isn't updating properly for me, and hasn't in quite a few weeks now. I've tried relogging but still the same. Any fixes?

vocal flower
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Link to that instead :)?

pale crag
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!it

normal minnow
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!it

obtuse orbitBOT
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https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo#2331

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https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo#2331

vocal flower
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Ty

dapper prism
normal minnow
cyan mantle
normal minnow
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what did you use

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if you rmb

cyan mantle
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Ok um

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I used this but they need to be 1.5k to 3k

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You auto everything besides your shield which you need to activate right before the axe hits him

normal minnow
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you had to time the blocks i assume

cyan mantle
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Ye

normal minnow
cyan mantle
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Basically just click everything else when it's ready then time the shield

fallen torrent
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173% xp cog! my best one so far!!

dapper prism
# normal minnow oh alr

before u begin fight, u can click the abilities on the bottom to either make it auto or not

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but once you're in the fight, you cant toggle them again, so you would make everything auto, but disable shield auto

normal minnow
dapper prism
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You can also use keys 1-6 to use their abilities,

finite lake
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Is there a strategy for sigils or like ones to prioritize more than others? Or just level the lowest one till its boosted and keep unlocking

rugged token
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Gotta love being auto logged out on steam then relogging and all talent/card presets are gone GuyMontag

fallen torrent
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300T left before Superbits unlocked

pearl cedar
rugged token
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Didn't even save my daily atom clicks smh GuyMontag

finite lake
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Figured that was probably the case, but wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything

warm pike
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So close to multi

dapper prism
finite lake
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Yeah, I've got all W6 bubbles unlocked, cauldrons all at 170, and maxed vial already. Been dropping a couple gem purchases since I neglected that, but holding off till Friday now

snow light
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what was all W6 bubbles unlocked?

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it was right after this bubble right?

warm pike
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Is this abuse?

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Finally crystal 3d printer acquired

finite lake
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It is that bubble iirc

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Yes

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52.2m is targetting first bubble W7

dapper prism
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yes 52mil is all w6s

dapper prism
snow light
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cool i thought it was the one right after gotta jump to other cauldrons now

finite lake
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I should probably go through a few hundred keys at some point

snow light
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ill probably do it on my Bubo for chaotic kruk just to get some drops

warm pike
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bouta use printer go brrrr and hopefully get like 15 in a row

dapper prism
snow light
dapper prism
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It caps at 70%

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Even though the talent shows a higher %

exotic juniper
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Sweet passed 10T dmg

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now need 10T dmg with crystal card set up haha

dapper prism
patent hatch
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Finally hit 20x DR on my DK with my crystal killing set up PogPig

fallen torrent
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Congrats!

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im near to hit 22.00x

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21.89x

patent hatch
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Poggers

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From plunders?

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Iโ€™ve really slacked on mine and in getting better accuracy for DR

fallen torrent
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plunder obols perectioning and uhm

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keychain etc..

patent hatch
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Yeah I need to hit 5k total levels for another easy 16%

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Will be done a couple days into world six

fallen torrent
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๐Ÿ˜„

patent hatch
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Ooo I can also farm some gems and ruby a few DR cards too

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The festival ones

fallen torrent
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yeah thats a good thing too,

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i have rubied almost all my cards, except dungeon

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i'll have to wait and see what W6 has to offer for me to keep on farming W5 last ones

cyan mantle
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Ok so in 183 hours I'll have the 100k spurs

fallen torrent
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thats very doable

cyan mantle
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But the automation arm isn't working

dapper prism
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You can also candy it

fallen torrent
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dont forget, using candy will accelerate it

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you can also 3x Craft the same ressources if you didnt know

dapper prism
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automation arm only does it like once a day on reset afaik

cyan mantle
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Ah ok

pearl cedar
fallen torrent
# cyan mantle Wait what

yeah you can click on the same place as you would do 1x but you can craft the same ressource but speed 3x

cyan mantle
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So I'd get 3x the spurs per hour?

fallen torrent
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if you click 3 time where the produce button is you can

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yeah

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if you indeed have all the thing unlock to get 3x done

exotic juniper
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what the hell i didnt know that lol

fallen torrent
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(also if you have the familiar that get your bubble equip on all char all at once its even better)

dapper prism
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I always forget to remind people of that because it's something people should know, but it's so badly designed that obviously nobody would know unless told

shadow plume
glacial venture
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you confuse it with 3rd bubble

cyan mantle
shadow plume
exotic juniper
dapper prism
cyan mantle
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I always check it each day

ivory arch
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New highest nugget

shadow plume
cyan mantle
ivory arch
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Nooo my nuggetGrumblo_scared Grumblo_scared

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Also ew ketchup

fallen torrent
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@cyan mantle you are using BB kitchen ability to try get the meal without losing too much of progress?

shadow plume
dapper prism
shadow plume
frosty tundra
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Hi guys, is there a website that lists all the possible Divinity XP bonuses you can get from various sources?

fallen torrent
frosty tundra
shadow plume
shadow plume
fallen torrent
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if you have 3X and your remove the bubble, as long as you dont remove it it stays

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or you have the Familiar that allows you to have all bubble equipped on all time

frosty tundra
fallen torrent
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Skyeon everyone use that website

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it is safe, and it is the most useful you can have for idleon

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for those who wanna see my acc progress here it is

frosty tundra
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I disagree, from a security standpoint, especially considering IdleOn doesn't support 2FA for email accounts

shadow plume
fallen torrent
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You know that the creator of this website is chatting with us everyday?

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@shadow plume no double effect

frosty tundra
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Indeed I am aware

fallen torrent
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and that he does all this hardwork for us and gain nothing from it?

frosty tundra
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Yep

fallen torrent
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and also that since this is a single player game there would be no point in stealing our info on the game but

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suit yourself its okay if you dont want ๐Ÿ™‚

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we will keep using it still ;p

shadow plume
finite lake
fallen torrent
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Lol

finite lake
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But I have to ask

fallen torrent
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hm?

finite lake
fallen torrent
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hey

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shall we not talk about it?

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XD

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i leveled it a bit, then i focused on getting Vial done and other increase ^^

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in 300M W4 soul im going back to level up singulary everyone

finite lake
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Lmao, totally understandable. I finally buckled down and got everyone up to yellow skulls the other day cause I was tired of needing green salts for things

paper sail
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Dreadnaught Skull Grumblo_Pray

finite lake
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https://sin_luz.idleonefficiency.com/

fallen torrent
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Hey scoli

finite lake
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I'm waaaay behind. Waiting for DK to hit level 80 Div or W6 before working on something else

fallen torrent
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Do not judge

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xD

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200 GS was tempting. and clearing almost all vial too, and ruby too

paper sail
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lol, I get it

fallen torrent
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also just have to farm more

finite lake
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The nullo salt is killing me. I have one set of Divine/Magma for ES/Bubo but I ain't got doot so refinery is slow

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Could throw some toons on Omni till W6 I suppose and try to speed it up

paper sail
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Yeah ๐Ÿซค Having to devote slots to Omni feels bad

finite lake
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Agreed

fallen torrent
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yeah the keep fire talent

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let me show the name

cyan mantle
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I didn't know how to use it

fallen torrent
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when you have your fire up and high and ready to get a meal

cyan mantle
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Ah ok

fallen torrent
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put it on the bar and then use it when the fire is up

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you will keep some fire progress

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so maxing it if you have the spare ponit forit can be good

cyan mantle
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Ok ty for the info

stuck elbow
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anybody unlock this yet? if so what is it?

paper sail
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Nothing

fallen torrent
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so i love to multi fire to get a new meal, and then when a few are ready i just use the Tonge

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it saves lot of time

cyan mantle
fallen torrent
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follow the guide for spices it will help

cyan mantle
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Ye I am

fallen torrent
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do some W4 colo to get some eggs on your dk

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you pop that orb in there, and you can do i think 3 run with W4 collo

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the orb effect stays in the map but the orb count reset when you enter

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so as long as you have enough cd for the run you can run multiple Colo witha single 'orb use'

cyan mantle
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Ok

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This is my speed for the first spice btw

gilded pond
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Somewhat noob question here: Do weapon power buffs work on tool power for skills?

fallen torrent
#

i followed the guide cause breeding is like UGH for me

#

no clint

#

skilling power is skilling power.

gilded pond
#

I didn' thtink so. Thank you

shadow plume
cyan mantle
#

Ye I was using it but the coffee guys boosted it alot when I replaced one of them

fallen torrent
#

Gozu my man ^

snow light
dapper prism
cyan mantle
#

Ye this is bullshit

dapper prism
cyan mantle
#

Ik i have none and I don't have enough tickets to do a colo

dapper prism
#

just toss all alts into kitchen if you're desperate to try for chocochip

shadow plume
dapper prism
#

16 days till its in rotation and then an extra 7 or 14? days until it leaves

shadow plume
dapper prism
#

Yes

#

Never touch recipes, meals, anything except for with a BB, else you'll get used to using alts for that stuff and accidentally waste ladles.

fallen torrent
#

just gain ladle with other alt if you can, but dont use em on other than BB

glacial venture
#

and dont put a high stack in inventory

fallen torrent
#

if you really need to push it

glacial venture
#

laddles arent like balloons...whole stack gets used

shadow plume
#

i always take out like small stacks of like 5 so i can control how much i use an dont go overboard

dapper prism
#

I used to do stacks of sigle digit, 11, 22, 55, 123 (cause easy num-pad+enter) to withdraw loads of stacks like that.

In your case just do the 49 hours / time gained per ladle based on BB and take those out as stacks, as you could then just click stack, attempt meal, repeat.

cyan mantle
#

With two people in it

short sparrow
#

I'm tempted to stop pushing w5 until Friday lol

#

What do you guys think

dapper prism
finite lake
#

Honestly hope catching gets a buff and bigger use later on. Rates are so low

dapper prism
cyan mantle
#

Btw for vman is it 40 1m personal deathnote kills

dapper prism
#

So pushing through w5 will be easier

finite lake
short sparrow
#

I'm only at lampars on my furthest

dapper prism
#

bubo or dk?

short sparrow
#

DK, my bubo is almost to citringes though

finite lake
kind epoch
#

That one is just overall deathnote

finite lake
#

^ It's account wide

#

The 12m Gmush are not

#

Drop Maestro on Gmush, everyone else cleaning up death note

short sparrow
#

I personally chowed w1 and w2 and had everyone help with w3

kind epoch
#

I did mine on my BB for chow

short sparrow
#

I'm going back and chowing w3 now that I have vman

dapper prism
#

also remember dont do the maps in order

paper nova
#

If i'm using this prayer can i technically afk for up to like 14-15 hrs and it's still more EXP efficient even though it only counts for 10 afk hrs? or is the math done differently ?

dapper prism
#

Be sure to get the lower tier deathnotes to help you with mk

dapper prism
#

But depends on your xp multiplier

paper nova
kind epoch
#

But it took me ages to realize just how good vman was and had a lot of work to do to fix him up to get him

#

So ymmv

finite lake
#

Hey, the longer it takes you to realize, the faster it'll be to get

kind epoch
#

Yeah it was stupid fast when I did do it ๐Ÿคฃ

dapper prism
# paper nova why no chow maps in order?

First, if u get everything to either 100 or 250k for the mk/tier from deathnote, then 500k, then 1mil. You're always benefiting each progress step.

Secondly. go highest kph map first and go from highest to lowest because of ^

paper nova
finite lake
#

I think Vman was my first elite class

#

Everyone else was like level 70-90 when I pushed him to 150

dapper prism
#

The Deathnote tiers are 25k, 100k, 250k, 500k, 1mil, 5mil, 100mil, 1b
So remember that if u had several maps at 25k and just push one fully to 1mil, you're not taking advantage of all those extra DN tiers

dapper prism
paper nova
vagrant mountain
#

i didnt get vman until my other chars were lvl 300+ lol

paper nova
unreal yacht
#

Imagine the next classes after elite cuz vman was too crazy

shadow plume
dapper prism
#

main thing.. if a map had 90k kills, get that to 100k, if a map was like 230k kills, may want to get that to 250k for the DN bonus dont have multiple maps close to the next DN tier while focusing a whole day on getting a single spot to 1mil

fallen torrent
#

1 spot away from jackpot arcade

#

dangit

empty hinge
#

What is the highest amount of xp multi a person can have?

dapper prism
#

On what?

#

Class XP?

empty hinge
#

Monsters

dapper prism
#

Technically limitless depending on how far you push your GT

#

Seen a bunch of 100x Class XP multipliers

empty hinge
#

So this should be considered avrg?

#

For endgame

dapper prism
#

Just depends, xp bundle purchased or not. Lowest class with xp bonus from gaming or not.

#

With bundle and 25k GT you'd have around 120x class xp, lowest alt would have 180x?

The term "endgame" is also semi flawed as it's one of those grinds that wont do you much. So some people may not want to focus Bubo CC on GT for month(s) just to get there.
But typical late people would aim for around 20k+ GT i would say

lucid olive
#

Iโ€™m confused why did it give me it to me

dapper prism
#

because thats 78x not 77x

vagrant mountain
#

it's time to level up pixel width ๐Ÿซก

dapper prism
dapper prism
empty hinge
static basin
#

so you got the achieve

#

or 77,799

dapper prism
static basin
#

or 77,699

dapper prism
#

But yeh, rounding and displayed values are very weird in this game

#

sometimes it rounds up, sometimes it may round down even at .99,

empty hinge
#

Holy moly!

dapper prism
#

Beautiful, gz!

empty hinge
#

This is beautiful ,i never thought i will get it with0.1%EmojiSuperSad

vagrant mountain
empty hinge
vagrant mountain
empty hinge
#

Hmmmm....

dapper prism
#

About to die in TD

#

but went from 140 to 180 (Td3) so happy

vagrant mountain
chilly siren
#

if i do portal run just to sample and not unlock portal, do my unlocked portal goes down ?

paper nova
chilly siren
#

ok ty

vagrant mountain
paper nova
vagrant mountain
dapper prism
vagrant mountain
#

nice

dapper prism
#

Last time i did this stuff was probably around october, got fed up with the game freezes

vagrant mountain
#

solid 10-20% to your MSA buffs

dapper prism
#

Btw, for TD2+3 i switched to browser, no freezes so far.

#

recommended by Herus

vagrant mountain
#

nice

#

browser is definitely the fastest client

#

you just cant minimize it lol

dapper prism
#

Eh, nawh, steam seemed better, 0 lags throughout all of td. was always at 90-175+ fps.
Bigger issue is just the game freeze caused by the game

#

but based on Herus Browser has "no undead mobs and no freezes" so it's the way to go

paper nova
vagrant mountain
#

from my understanding, web client and steam client are the same except steam client has extra steam stuff

#

web should be the cleanest version

dapper prism
#

Seems more different than that

#

since i havnt experienced any "undead mobs" yet on webclient

vagrant mountain
#

๐Ÿ

#

idk how it works either tbh

unreal yacht
#

someone show bubo skill setup pls

#

tryna do cranuim cooking rq

#

ty ty

vagrant mountain
#

secret tech grumblo_steal

unreal yacht
#

Im curious why no cansiter guys?

next locust
#

No need for it at wurms

unreal yacht
#

if im doing soda cans?

vagrant mountain
#

you only use cannisters when you are on a map with a lot of platforms

dapper prism
#

variables also if u dont have 200 tente type stuff

vagrant mountain
#

use cannisters for soda cans

unreal yacht
#

kk

dapper prism
#

i still toss it behind gas

unreal yacht
dapper prism
#

Then ull probably always need canister for now

#

as an extra filler

unreal yacht
#

alright

vagrant mountain
dapper prism
#

never use bouncy skull

vagrant mountain
#

how dare you

dapper prism
#

Been told it will cause lag since it doesnt properly despawn

unreal yacht
#

Oh i actually had bouncy skull i guess i remove if u think so

vagrant mountain
#

i like bouncy skull

dapper prism
#

Even worse is the blue lightning, never use that

vagrant mountain
#

yeah blue lightning will brick you lol

unreal yacht
#

nope never used when i become bubo so trash

#

man canister is soooo good here

#

rlly cant wait until my skills get higher for bubo to be nuts

chilly siren
#

the bounce skull have active timer for like 0.5s i think ?

#

it's not instant like cans/ghost/aura

craggy flax
#

Are there any secret to leveling trapping? Trying to get my Vman up in skills, and trapping is constantly lagging behind. Running the highest critter with 8 hour exp traps, but it still takes several days for each level.

dapper prism
paper nova
#

Vman should eventually take over as highest trapping with ease

dapper prism
#

Vman should ALWAYS be on XP traps

#

since it's the one skill that will be a hard time gate "his lowest skill" for dmg and cant be skipped by things like candy.

craggy flax
#

Oh, think I skipped on cards

#

thanks, gonna redo his traps with cards added

stoic verge
#

Where did the weekly boss tab go in tips and tricks?

dapper prism
#

cards will be pretty minimal, but anything helps long term, and the obvious highest critters

unreal yacht
#

dont forget crystal countdown too

stoic verge
#

Why?

craggy flax
#

Transfusion is at 250, Happy Dude is at 649

dapper prism
stoic verge
#

Okey i guess

craggy flax
strong nova
#

what the throphy route

dapper prism
unreal yacht
#

oh yeah it helps alot for sure

craggy flax
unreal yacht
#

best skill exp gear and cards nature traps with blobfish

unreal yacht
#

80 percent thats rlly good

craggy flax
#

So, with cards/equipment. Does it count at the point of placing the trap (e.g. snapshotting it at that point) or is when collecting the trap?

dapper prism
craggy flax
#

Thanks! Gonna try to snapshot it and replace ๐Ÿ™‚

dapper prism
#

Im confused what's there to snapshot?

craggy flax
#

Oh just meant to get all the skill exp on as of placing

#

as that wasn't done before, completely forgot about cards in the first place

unreal yacht
#

placing only matters on vman collect doesnt im pretty sure

dapper prism
exotic juniper
#

do we think ill still get credit even though it went to this wacko screen?

dapper prism
exotic juniper
#

smart

#

wait till cloud save

dapper prism
#

the UI glitching shouldnt really affect the success imo

exotic juniper
#

hopefully in a minute itll update ๐Ÿคž

exotic juniper
#

at 203 already

warm pike
#

skullslip hallow here I come๐Ÿ˜ผ

exotic juniper
#

sick

#

updated

unreal yacht
#

w5 has the worse rng skills bruh

#

sailing luck trash nugget trash div is alright but trash

#

the grind continues

modern plaza
#

well thankfully its w5 and not w8. so the rng will hopefully fully play out

unreal yacht
#

hope so for real

strong nova
#

they will get better when newer feature released

#

its a trend

keen trellis
#

Even though w4โ€™s skills were timegated at least I get everything eventually, after like 2 months still working on eld fury

strong nova
#

trapping and fishing early day is awful

#

also cooking

dapper prism
keen trellis
#

Probably garden

unreal yacht
#

yup prob time gated

inland lintel
#

I wasn't around when w4 was current content was the w4 recipes already in unlock when it was released or did you have to find the recipes like you do in w5 now? In other words can we expect the w5 recipes to be added to the unlocks in the task board when w6 arrives or at a later time?

keen trellis
#

No lava just didnโ€™t put anything on the world 5 unlock section yet

foggy eagle
#

Does unlocking an ISS for a star sign like Forsaken completely delete the negative effect? I initially assumed that the negative effect was gone for passively activated star signs, but clicking them even if it's infinite would put the debuff on you. I just Infinited Forsaken today, and my max health is no longer reduced even when I align to it. Is this also the case if I align to Forsaken and double it with the chip?

eternal wasp
foggy eagle
#

Really? I don't see my health going down when I equip it on a character that has a doubler on, but then again, my AFK gain rate is only increasing by 6 and not 12 with Forsaken

dapper prism
#

remember to reload zones

#

a ton of stuff doesnt change like that unless zone reload, that's why things like cardchance can snapshot, or mana/hp for samples etc.

#

Although for your case idk how it is for ISS

#

Buta lot of things dont update unless zone change/gemshop, same like some artifacts

foggy eagle
#

Yeah when I double Forsaken, I get the AFK Gain rate increase, but I don't lose health. It seems like Infiniting a star sign deletes the debuff

dapper prism
#

thats what i thought, but not sure, never checked/asked and never saw a purpose to check how it is with card doublers

foggy eagle
#

For a minute there I thought my ISSs weren't properly doubling, because aligning to 2% afk gain rate gave me two, but then I realized I'm going from 1x to 2x, so I am only adding 2% cause the base sign is already active ๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ

#

Seems like grinding out those ISS shinies is a good idea to be able to run The Overachiever AFK and stuff

worldly gulch
#

dayum i lost a ton of droprate "over night" while muling my gear / obols from one char to another. i even screenshotted the old droprate and have a wiki page open with all possible sources - still cant figure it out. cards, cardset, obols, lab chips, star signs, prayers, equipment, all there. WTF IS HAPPENING TO ME

worldly gulch
#

i havent even unlocked the talent which yields dr on weekly boss kill, so thats not it. but thanks, i will try with the spreadsheet.

dapper prism
#

definetely check IT too though and compare, that's an easy way imo

#

recall your before/after ?

worldly gulch
#

i am pretty sure i had the 11.51 beaten, but i was 100% over 11

#

now i am on 10.61

#

that's a pretty big difference

#

i dont really see how IT helps me here once i "destroyed" my full setup. maybe if i snapshotted it somehow

#

but what am i to compare with, if i cant figure out the full setup anymore which i seem to have had

dapper prism
#

just allows u to also same as the spreadsheet go through each step and make sure you have the proper % ๐Ÿคท

#

And sometimes compare them with alts, e.g. my SB has less than DK, i can compare and see "oh its a gear difference" then check gear and see "oh kattle with dr keychains vs magma"

#

Anyways, good luck, off to bed gn!

worldly gulch
#

tym good night

true obsidian
#

ready for world 6 Grumblo_Pray

reef heath
#

what char is the best card farmer ? Vman ?

inland lintel
true obsidian
#

you should filter mob drop when active with ES

worldly gulch
#

is it possible that game is just fucking trolling me regarding droprate display?

glad crow
hexed elm
#

is it better to have full damage when active ES or drop rate if im going for drops Monkahmm

foggy eagle
#

Psure you want your 1 highest damage card, then DR as per this guide

hexed elm
#

alrighty

#

ty

patent hatch
#

it took 5 resets from 19 but i have finally gotten to 20, thank the lord

pastel bramble
patent hatch
#

unzips I'm ready grumblo_thumbsup

sinful aurora
#

24 is just luck. Then 25 is self unalive.

humble garnet
#

how much pet power do i need each

zealous niche
zealous niche
graceful tinsel
azure spindle
# humble garnet wdym by combo

that setup is the combo, attack speed from whale borger to survive long enough waves to get looter buffs up, eventually defender is constantly using it's ability and blocking most attacks

humble garnet
#

ye but it claims all auto, so nothing i can do right

azure spindle
#

yeah, that's why Aj said the only real requirements for having higher stats is on borger, looter and rattler, honestly looter is just in case but realistically just having higher borger and rattler is fine since damage mainly comes from rattler

#

borger just needs enough health to tank until buffs are built

humble garnet
#

how much is high pet power

azure spindle
#

I don't know exactly how much is needed, been a while since I've done it, I'd honestly just try it out with that setup and see

humble garnet
#

first i need the 6th slot lol

azure spindle
#

yeah that would help

humble garnet
#

im trying to get 10k pet power each to use this

azure spindle
#

yeah that's fair

#

I recommend not unlocking more pets after stache as well before you do that since it will give you more unlocked skills and lower your odds at hitting the ones you need for the 5 pet build

weary sonnet
#

Guys, explain to me how to play "Gaming?" I don't fully understand the mechanics.

#

Explain how to improve further.

#

The progression slowed down a lot.

zealous niche
#

Get chem, the last type of plant

#

The most efficient way is to roll for it after every plant claim. The more plants you claim in-between rolls, the less efficient each plant is.

Balance this with your sanity

#

I rolled after every board claim for instance

#

You havenโ€™t shown import levels

#

A golden sprinkler would help too

sleek ermine
#

The trick is to keep grinding

zealous niche
#

Oh forgot to say, equinox nug upgrade is a godsend

sleek ermine
#

with his stats I doubt he can reach equinox that far

#

But yeah its pretty good

zealous niche
#

Perhaps not, but itโ€™s a good goal

sleek ermine
#

Some of the later artifacts in sailing help a ton too

zealous niche
#

Totally forgot about that

cyan mantle
#

Wait over time does the requirement for spices go up until u collect them

sleek ermine
#

yes

#

you can see it clearly when you get a spice and the max counter increases

cyan mantle
#

So I'm gonna sit here spamming collect

sleek ermine
#

remember that you can only claim spices 100 times a day

#

claiming all claims each one induvidually so if you have 5 spices unlocked its gonna count 5 claims

cyan mantle
#

So when should I collect them?

sleek ermine
#

Between reasonable times, depends of course on your speed, but once an hour or even once every 30 minutes is perfectly good efficiency

#

when you unlock a star talent, you can just log onto your characters and they will claim for you, and this claiim doesnt count towards the 100 claim limit

cyan mantle
#

Alr

teal lynx
#

I personally collect them at my daily reset or after I wake up grumblo_thumbsup
Good rhythm to get the Achievement and also gains for Kitchen

normal minnow
#

how do i get my pet dmg up? is it just bm talent?

teal lynx
#

Hey Rac ๐Ÿ‘‹

sleek ermine
#

there are some meals that increase pet damage

normal minnow
teal lynx
#

The Pet Power is a mix of BM Talent, Pets unlocked, Rarity of Egg and Breeding lvl?

raven fog
#

Gimmi gimmi works on gems and keys?

sleek ermine
normal minnow
#

oh ye that i know

#

i meant how to increase pet power :

#

ig i cldve worded it better

sleek ermine
#

breeding level

normal minnow
#

alr

sleek ermine
#

your breeding level gives you a max power cap, rare eggs increase that, so try to use rare eggs when going for high power pets

quasi sparrow
#

Should I focus on getting viodwalker or push world 5?
I feel like viodwalker would take to much time

sleek ermine
#

its heavily weighed towards low numbers

sleek ermine
#

when you get this god in divinity, pushing will be miles easier anyways

tall notch
#

So ive been farming kruk keys the past few days, should i do normal kruk for gems or nightmare for a chance at cape and trophy?

#

I have like 1500 keys

normal minnow
#

does anyone happen to have all constelation locations?

teal lynx
#

IE > Account Wide > Constellations
IT > Account > Misc > Constellations
If you need help finding them on the Map ask specifically grumblo_thumbsup

The Wiki probably has everything

solid jolt
#

You can check the wiki

normal minnow
#

oh alr thanks

wheat kiln
#

guys where do I get the lucky lad recipe from?

teal lynx
#

You mean the Luckier Lad recipe?
It's from Equinox

wheat kiln
#

lol

#

i was thinking is drop from some monster

teal lynx
#

Green drops from Monsters and Skilling Nodes. Red needs 75 -> This is a recipe

wheat kiln
#

yes this

teal lynx
#

The Red Recipe you get from a dream in Equinox grumblo_thumbsup

wheat kiln
#

oh i see thank you for help

scarlet cypress
tidal ice
#

leveling maestro in w4 is really slow, id at least unlock w5 so you can afk for a bit on suggmas

brazen fern
#

is this accountwide or character specific?

scarlet cypress
#

Specific

#

I think, just go check it on a neglected character :p

normal minnow
#

@teal lynx 40m dmg :D

spring jasper
#

Grumblo_Pray i'am getting done with all divine gear (expect scarf F scarf) in time

serene solstice
#

employment statistics on ES right and does higher multikill help there?

#

oor dr

spring jasper
#

rooSus employ???!? what

#

i don't quite understand that sentence

cyan mantle
#

Guys with lava math what would 35% of 419

serene solstice
#

employment statistics is a quest item from the toilet paper npc and I meant with that sentence farming it on ES and if multikill helps in getting more or not and same for dr

teal lynx
#

Active with ES, AFK doesn't matter too much. I did SB afk (candy) for the extra forge progress
Dr definitely helps. MK not sure

serene solstice
#

ig time to switch my dr stuff on ES then

spring jasper
#

3 minute cycling SB and BM for forge Grumblo_Pray

teal lynx
#

2 minute cycling Grumblo_Pray

lyric sequoia
#

Iโ€™m still holding onto most of my characters in magma armour until I see the requirements actually say divine. None of the resource cost of it is an issue so just delays puttting it on by like 10 seconds

#

Rather that than the longer time waste of remaking magma

spring jasper
#

Grumblo_Pray just 4000 more nullo salt until i can stop caring about it for a while

spring jasper
lyric sequoia
#

Yes, but trusting lava at his word is a bad idea

#

Otherwise yโ€™know, f2p autoloot coming soon guys

spring jasper
lyric sequoia
#

Plus divine is a net dps loss, gotta keep all my chars above 1T damage for the style points

#

10T sorry

spring jasper
#

it is a net positive to dementia armor tho

#

which i'am currently on

graceful tinsel
lyric sequoia
#

Which bit

graceful tinsel
#

uhhh idk, but the way you said this implies lava mentioned f2p autoloot is coming

lyric sequoia
#

F2P autoloot has been promised since before the paid version, the soon part is the copium based on trusting his word

lyric sequoia
#

If you read both of those messages together, youโ€™d probably have understood the context

graceful tinsel
#

ahh, i never knew that

untold solstice
#

hey guys a year ago wanted to take a break from the game and decided to come back today.. would someone kindly DM me the essential sites cause i forgot their names

graceful tinsel
lyric sequoia
#

He has not said a single thing about changing his mind, he just hasnโ€™t commented on it since releasing it in the store

graceful tinsel
#

rip

lyric sequoia
#

So yeah, circling back to โ€œtrusting lava at his word is a bad ideaโ€

graceful tinsel
#

yea

lyric sequoia
#

Absolutely can blame him. 2021 was long before he started getting crazy money grubby

graceful tinsel
#

thats not money crazed

lyric sequoia
#

In 2024 you canโ€™t blame him mainly because he has shown his hand to be in it for the cash

teal lynx
lyric sequoia
#

You need to know what idleon looked like in 2021 to have the context of how grubby it felt like at the time

tacit tulip
lyric sequoia
#

Cost of it doesnโ€™t matter, it was a feature he said was coming for free that he locked behind a paywall, and was 1 of the first signs of things to come

teal lynx
sharp mauve
#

I use both IE and IT

lyric sequoia
#

$5 autoloot no longer feels bad in the wake of $400 pity doot

graceful tinsel
lyric sequoia
#

You didnโ€™t know it was originally meant to be free, so of course you donโ€™t

graceful tinsel
lyric sequoia
#

Wasnโ€™t responding to you neyney, but sure go off

graceful tinsel
#

i dont see any issue in autoloot costing money when the game is f2p

lyric sequoia
#

No ๐Ÿ™ƒ

patent hatch
#

ultimately his point was that you shouldn't take lava for his word due the experiences he has had in the past. Makes no diff if the price is good or not good lol

lyric sequoia
#

I still remember he who shall not be namedโ€™s video about the w3 gem store, good times

#

If youโ€™re mistaking me for a person that thinks autoloot is too expensive, Iโ€™ll refer you to my 2 gachaโ€™d doots on my account

#

But yeah, besides the point. What zamn said

sleek ermine
#

If your account is strong enough, you can get thousands of gems a week anyways, its a decent free 2 play model

lyric sequoia
#

Gems that wonโ€™t help buy a pack, nor will they help get doot. Still besides the point though

sleek ermine
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Doot situation and packs is sad tho yeah, the multiplying bonuses from packs is nice when you buying them but for free2play it hurts

lyric sequoia
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Too early to be delving into the doot moral quandary

sleek ermine
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but he has to make money somehow I guess

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I dont care in the long run, you can buy stuff or not, I am enjoying my time

lyric sequoia
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Autoloot is just a good example of why you shouldnโ€™t trust what lava says in discord until you see it in game, and is why Iโ€™m sticking to magma till the patch is out

sleek ermine
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youre not gonna upgrade your armor? I am confused

noble hound
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Where is the mummy memorial? Need the sand giant kills for zow and chow

chilly siren
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autoloot - literally unplayable without

tacit tulip
patent hatch
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this scales with your highest con level right?

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crud, its 13% worse than my next lowest cog rn lol

lyric sequoia
tacit tulip
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yeah the big cogs stats are never amazing, but the global 20% per section is worth it

sleek ermine
patent hatch
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wdym per section

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as in when you get 4 of them?

prisma furnace
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When you have a full big Cog

patent hatch
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oh yuck thats a lotta chedda

lyric sequoia
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Upgrading magma to divine is a 10 second job for me. Refarmjng magma in the case that it is that which is needed is notably longer

prisma furnace
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each will give 20%xp as a global buff

sleek ermine
patent hatch
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lots of gems to get to that point hmm

prisma furnace
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Definately

patent hatch
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but on the other hand it does boost con which is nice

prisma furnace
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The first 4 are usually a good recommendation

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The last 4 are, quite a bit more expensive

patent hatch
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i can get thousands of gems from boss farming

prisma furnace
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But down the line, they are worth to get. There are other more important things to get from the gem shop however

lyric sequoia
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8k gems not overly awful tbh, few months of general gem farming if youโ€™re f2p

patent hatch
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so i can theoretically get it "soon"

lyric sequoia
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Still a lot of gems

prisma furnace
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Ofc.

patent hatch
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I have every other good upgrade imo

sleek ermine
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its only 40 euro ๐Ÿ’ณ

prisma furnace
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Well no shame in working towards in then

patent hatch
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saving gems for world 6

prisma furnace
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Makes sense ๐Ÿ™‚

lyric sequoia
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Funnily the cog cost was a huge uproar when w3 first came out. Fun times

sleek ermine
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they were also weaker back then

lyric sequoia
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That too

patent hatch
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so the yang cog scales %build rate andd % player exp

lyric sequoia
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Player exp is the only thing it really needs

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Vast majority of build rate comes from levelling DK. Though that being said I guess it also buffs DKs build rate a bit

sleek ermine
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my main cons character is ES, because I am an ES enthusiast

patent hatch
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con is defs one of my more neglected skills as a whole

lyric sequoia
sleek ermine
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Hope is a feeling, theres only truths in this chat Grumblo_Pray ๐Ÿง™

lyric sequoia
steady beacon
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how exactly does boss card drop work? What leads to higher multiples? Is it DR, or card drop rate, or both?

patent hatch
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what con level do people have before getting 1b?

lyric sequoia
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Build rate? 600 ish?

tacit tulip
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kinda caries (1/2 DK, construction bubble progress)

patent hatch
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ok, I've got 2 DKs with them having 498 level

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actually one of them is 500

tacit tulip
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I've definitely had more than 3 cards from a single drop

lyric sequoia
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Them also having the big bubble on and that big bubble being high level is generally required

tacit tulip
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it's probably like items, if your DR is high enough you get multiple from stuff like amarok, which are easier

sleek ermine
patent hatch
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yeah got sheepy so i have all bubbles

tacit tulip