#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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biggest issue is, based on your layout i have no clue what plant youre going for and it's just setup pretty.. ugly/hard overview for yourself imo
what evo upgrade level?
Make sure you have a strategy in mind for grinding out T6/7.
Don't just keep your field full of T5 plants, waiting for time to pass naturally.
You'll get more gaming time much quicker if you reserve some number of plant spots for cycling chem plants.
381
2504.9 days
Mine is like 6k+ days and i have 2 t7's :/
If you're ever curious you can use the calculator yourself, here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t7tj1KOwpVAAWgiucgs8oJ2B3iqp0KHT/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103157739855053644864&rtpof=true&sd=true
Ok, that's what I was doing wrong. Thanks.
i got half of t6 in a less than a week by just waiting and doing log
t6 really isn't that hard
If you haven't already, take a look at the guide for how to put your towers, it gives recommendations for what levels to have the tower, what upgrades to pick, and what other things you'll need (like salt lick, meal, and atoms)
T6 is pretty hard to complete if you're not chemlooping at all, but getting a few incidentally is pretty natural over time.
Also, the equinox bonus is really powerful, max it out when you can
Can i open gaming during TD run?
would not recommend
Should be able to, but do you want to introduce extra lag?
just wanted to take a screeny to help xD
this was 4 in a week with 1.8 min average
I have looked at that. I think my tower levels just weren't good enough.
The equinox bonus is absolutely vital for pushing TD nowadays
That's fantastic luck if you weren't clicking chem plants. Congrats!
oh i meant my layout of how my plants for t7 grind are
I have a section, like here, top left (risked it on wave 190 td
)
https://i.imgur.com/h1cPTcG.png
ignore chems, been 2lazy for those
i havent clicked chems in forever now
we pray natural rng gets me the last remaining t7s
Gaming hurts me to even think about spending time on, so I just don't open the tab anymore and pretend the last superbit doesn't exist.
Nuggets have been killing me, that i keep giving up on it
2 horn and 1 stone of b ulwark with my dk. op
Im just hoping for a 1m nugget before W6
i just cleared everything at 4min xD
Nice!
That's incredibly achievable if you have chem plants unlocked and the equinox bonus. I believe in you 
Wait, if plants can evolve up to 7 times, isn't the last tier t8? or is the starting plant just considered T0
and the mentall willpower and dedication to be disappointed by multiple bad nuggets
Im at 1500 rolls since my last upgrade, currently 481k
new slab acquired
oh wow, long overdue on a new one afaik
That sounds like a pain, but that also sounds like you're due for a win sooner than later
dang, 380k dungeon flurbos run.
Thats what they all say.. but you saw my nugget luck?
https://discordapp.com/channels/437797104786604034/1034167878775222333/1201559292449411203
Wow! Is that wish a group or without?
with 3 other person
laaagggiiing
Ah, that makes sense. Im so used to just having to do it solo lately
Those are, indeed, some worse-than average luck 
time to wish me luck
I did have a 400k nugget the other day that got scarily close to my current. Glad that didn't get me a 1% increase or something silly
I genuinely find it quicker to do 5 clicks, close the page and reoppen it again to reset it
+4 +6% wis +2 +4% wis are the two neackles that was 'good'
Yeaaa, doing it
so cant get higher than lv V ice mallet on warrior in dungeon?
IV i think
IV definitely is max
IV it is sry
oh yeh that crap happens, even with my 1.5m now, rolled a 1.3m and even though its not as close, the PTSD of all those other nuggets is getting to me..
then there's me who has reliably jumped up 5-10% nuggs from 10k to 250k 
maybe some day i get lucky ๐ฆ
Sakori achievement of the day: Put together an ikea wardrobe 
Sakori's lament: This is the one for his wife. Still need to buy/assemble his one
lets see where my nugg chance is at now
you're now better at doing it, so your will end up better 
I went from 3k to 8k to 120k to 310k to 410k to 480k
if i can just double it
yeah that's way faster than me, I'#m at 250k after about 20 nugg increases
when you clear crystal island is it worth using droprate/luk cards for.. ''better'' loot?
and choco chip
Not all of us are rich like that ๐ฆ
but that sounds amazing. does it spawn giant crystals?
just because you ate yours @paper nova
YOU DON'T KNOW THAT
If someone wants to edit a choco chip into my cookie monster pic i'll use it as my profile pic.. >.>
Wait, seriously!? Damn it, I have been missing out!
choco chip give you 75% chance to revive a crystal monster after killing it
choco chip 28 feb
I have time... >.>.
I need to get to cheese
monster respawn march 20
i almost missed star sign doubler recently, bought it in the last day
You'll need about 8-16k rolls for a upgrade based on what I've seen myself
i wonder do i need a 5th choco chip ๐ค
If it comes in the chip store yes
wished it was card doublers instead tho
im not in a hurry haha
gaming started to tease me again...
12,068,83334
LMao bro
ive been on x45 nuggets for weeks and months is it truly pure RNG? what am i doing wrong?
shovel issue

just 45 or 45m? and you should lvl up your shovel and get the equinox perk
Oh i kinda just unlocked equinox
Dude idk whats up i just cant improve it
im try work on shovel a bit
but every level tiny percent increase omggg
how op is the equinox perk?
Its equinox boost
ill push for it
you want to lvl up this equinox perk so you start to increase your nugget size mad
WHAT THE...
wow
Bro i cant believe we didnt have this type of perk when w5 was out
that should help me out alot
whats the timer on shovel
?
can this be looked on IE or IT? like how often i can click on my shovel for nuggets?
the thing I posted is from IT but I honestly don't know what you mean
maybe the breakpoints when you get a new nugget?
let me check rq
like this?
after an hour you get a nugget when you don't click on your shovel after the hour you get another nugget after 4h and 50 minutes
ooooooooooo
and when you click after that on your shovel it resets
so your get a nugget again after an hour
What is the best class to go for this?
DK
yes entirely not worth to wait that long
What do you reccmmend? every hour?

when you are able every hour yes
hourly is best if you're not actively farming them. People do "chem trains" to farm thousands of nuggets in a day
man im sorry for the questions i just suck at this skill how do i unlock chems?
do div lvls work universally? cause it seems gaming and sailing do
plant mutation
Same way you unlock other plants
The last plant in the mutation screen is the chem plants, which gives gaming time when picked (higher tiers = more time)
But when you get to chem you want to try to unlock fairly often. Don't wait for 10% or so this will never happen
Oh boy how long this takes to unlock boys?
yeah
some day iโll get chem plant
planet dna pure RNG rn
Depends on how lucky you are
I got it pretty fast
It took me weeks to get chem plants, and that was clicking the button every time I hit 0.1% chance to get it
sigh i bet
0.1%? bro why does lava hates us ๐
Ayeee just unlock berri bush just now ty rngeus
It is MUCH faster to get dozens of 0.1% chances than it is to get the value up to 0.5 or even 1%
is it pointless to wait atleast 5%
Yes you will never reach 5%
0.1% ia the way to go much faster
wow i get it now ill use it right away then
after unlocking chemical... xD
geeze
It would take hundreds of thousands of plants to get over 1%
Superbits
Superbits
The plant evo's
Some of those superbits are incredibly important for progress
What is the strat to do the equinox dream for killing the 4th frog in the dung? I know to do the coin flip into the horn, but after that I keep running out of materials to put in the cauldron
As often as you like
And I dont have time to hit the tree? I think I am doing something wrong
Get your drop rate up, and use a DK
if that's a regular issue, it means you don't have enough drop rate. Do you have the dungeon stats maxed?
Not all of them no
Thank you
you'll def want drop rate at any rate
@slate vector griffy has a video for dungeon w3
w1
He has one for w1 as well ๐
W3 3rd boss solo is quite a bit more difficult imo, lol
I was close to killing it alone but rng man
Then i gave up will try it again one day when bored
I've done it once or twice, got lucky one of the runs while I was farming the W3 dungeon tasks achievement
@slate vector you want a link for the w1 dungeon tutorial?
Sure
@slate vector https://youtu.be/CHw5aF0aX_I?si=YUAcXGJKevPZhNqA
My dudes! Enjoy Becoming a W1 Dungeon God, Subscribe or feel the wrath of the mighty Maestro!
#griffybit #idleon #legendsofidleon
Reminds me, I still need to finish up the W2 dungeon achievement. I'll probably do that soon
W2 dungeon is ok not that bad
w2 was the worst lol.
Thats a no chief
Just need to do the 125 wazam one, already finished the solo 3rd boss
I was able to solo w1 dung now
With the drop rate tip. ty
Got two horns for some BIG dmg
Oh yeah, that would do it
@teal lynx
15k today 
I get to roll for another pet tomorrow morning. Taking bets on if I get sheepie 11 or not
you're due!
I wish there was a monster that dropped dense water :c
Would be nice. Im still missing 3 of the top 4 pets (but somehow I have 2 rams)
Absolutely, it lets me not worry about overfilling my inventory in places. I have been neglecting my bag size for way too long though...

On w4 orders wildin tho
Cant be bothered with that noise
Does anyone else think it's crazy how soon W6 is going to be out?
W5 still feels pretty fresh to me, and W6 being right around the corner is insane
Not complaining though lol
its been 14 months lol im rdy for new world
I started the game after W5 already existed, so a new world is new territory for me
What do order streaks do
dec 19
Vyxen
costs scale from 1-100
Ah ok
after that they stay the same
and you get rewards at certain box milestones
like 25, 50. 75, 100 or so
Every once in a while you'll get +5 boxes, right?
So you end up getting 6 that time?
Yes
a storage slot has an upper limit of 1050M right? cause the atom machine in it's "off" state is just on but at 1050?
How did I find the divnity god screen on idleon toolbox can someone remind me I cant find it
Never keep plants except chems ๐ sacrilege
dont keep any plants 
This is why you have tiny shell ๐
gaming doesnt exist 
But also working hands

the tools one?
I'm 38k deep in my current and I'm sooo fed up 
What do you mean tools one, I want to see the list where I can see the effect of the gods on all my characters
Account>Divinity maybe?
It's fine Pinchy me 
Maybe W6 will give you auto hourly clicks or something and you can keep up with us 
16.01 still feels so far away
hmm i wonder what im missing at 1.66
is that good?
what armor should i be wearing when i enter world 5
The best that you have
currently got green set and im at the lamps
Stamp I think
It's probably your Stamp? - Maybe a God Rank
Its a trade off to go make better armor
Its probably skill issue
chizoar would have been a better choice, but make troll next
troll is difficult to make at first so don't worry if it takes a while
God rank too like xayah said
I could knock it right up to... 112? right now if needed
only got the first 2 parts of the set unlocked and they arent that difficult to get but is the helmet and chestplate tough ones?
might go do that actually
Each rank is like +30% xp?
okay got 1.69 and 4 god ranks
The salt required is the big sticking point, really
the helmet is the rough one at 4k salt
Are you using a mage? Tab 2 talent 15 workson divinity
just got my salt printer set up so i just gotta wait
you'll need 3 gold twine from flombeiges (w4) too

skill issues everwhere
ie thinks i have food lust when i dont :(
1.78 lookin better
When people get 245 as a max is it not worth doing the 20 books for 1 max?
most of us run 20's these days I think
its worth it, i get a 20 book every 4 hrs
Does Fibres of absence work in speedrun on vman?
yes but its trash
It is, up until W6 introduces something that gives a higher max book
yes but it's typically a net negative
Alright, thanks! (:
Which one is Fibres again?
-dmg + kpk
Ah

should i stick my spare ES on the alter 24/7 or should i keep him doing his thing, currently at harriep
how many god ranks do you have if you know
when new leak today?
2
Tomorrow
hm im slackin somewhere, unless maybe its just slug levels
this is your fault ๐
screw wood mush
new skill leak pls
beastmasters in the lab
this was not worth the effort lol
get scammed noob
i'm gonna try balloon them after w6 release 
given the tiny exp requirements of divinity that is a solid idea
yep
should I start w2 eclipsing or just do gmush till w6 drops ? 
I'd prolly work on the eclipses
the extra damage will help you reach the last maps sooner (more money) and result in more gmush kills in the future (more money)
makes sense
thx
since you dont even have 100M on w2, consider getting super chows with some candy
my kph is not even close to being worth using candy on 
nobisect ๐
I have doot
lucky
what's your MK bubble at? Yellow 16?
more like money 
72
that's the percentage or the level?
53%
you will kill gmush faster when w6 drops with extra damage or mk or repawn buffs that we are likely to get
definitely get that up... it's pretty easy to level 

he can't atom it
ye but the same applies to eclipsing tho 
ye not high enough need atom nblb to carry
true, but damage will help you in w6, extra cash wont
yeah but it will be like 10% more damage cuz I don't think I will get more than 2 eclipses done in like 4 days
omg i was afk until now and managed wave 190 and didnt die on wave 200 ๐ฎ
@barren otter
change to dps now? only 12 mobs
https://i.imgur.com/8GwoU5I.png
can be a difference between an mk tier
tbh, you can play how you want
oh yeah
4 days not gonna matter much
ye 
new vip books from w6 pls 
it has
according to IT
I haven't bought a single stopwatch 
oh, didn't know IT had this info
yea hopefully you have enough time
Lava never named the chess skill?
Nice
What levels are your towers at in construction? I'm assuming something crazy like 90 across the board?
I am doing the same and I sold one of my krakens by accident ๐ฅน
Also remember that placement of the first towers is important to get maximum money back when selling
So only sell the towers placed last?
I havent done td in half a year probably, my previous record was 120
Wait, seriously? That seems silly
pretty high, havnt done td in ~ 3 months, bt always leveling them
https://i.imgur.com/1B66Z0K.png
why?
nah it's fair. the price you get back is proportional to what you paid for it
versus "I paid 800k for this tower and the game only gives me 100 to sell it"
So you want to place those first 2 kraken on the bottom right pretty much last, since youll sell them and want a lot more money back
My poisonic is barely your level and I could probably do 190 if I wait enough
If u manage 180 u can do 190.
Yeah thanks for the tip
It's always every 40th wave
Seems strange that if you sell the first tower placed, it will only get you back a tiny portion of what you'd have to pay to get a replacement
๐ฅฒ
I cant afford to buy the kraken back so I think this run is ruined anyways haha
Mine atm
https://i.imgur.com/fIHLz7k.png
wow i greatly underestimated how much vman helps with cooking
i doubled my cooking speed in like 10 minutes
vman bonus is the strongest bonus in the game
op
Its gonna get higher after you level the plates and you get even more speed
yeah i got way more levels on all my plates now
No joke,the moment we get a talent max increase, vman talent is the first one I'm doing
it's just that strong
Amen
true
it could go from 1.11 to 1.12% and it'd be huge gains
Making a quick guide >:)
if only vman helped with breeding 
Just active BM for eggs
how does that work exactly 
Vman has a enchancement talent
It enchances the whale skill
Oh mannn
When its enchanced
you get 3 seconds breeding progress
for every kill with anything 50% chance
is speed run only way to get v man points?
maestro talent too
It also progresses SHINIES
which is very huge thats the only place where ytou can speed up shiny progress
wow i had no idea it did that
50% chance but yeah
does it say in game anywhere exactly what skills get enhanced with enhancement eclipse?
what the... i didnt realize how crazy vman was ive been sleeping on him!!!
I know, just didnt bother editing
breh
yea you get a little tooltip when you enhance the talent and it also shows on said talent on other classes
I don't recall seeing the "shiny pet time" part of it!
Thats why my friend who started 2 months ago is almost ready to unlock vman, he just needs kills on green mushrooms
ahh i see yeah
ngl been lazy with the speed runs ima start doing em need to ehance these skills for sure
Skill enhancements are very strong, some of the ones he gives to himself for the hands are also massive
I hate TD
that was my life trying to get 200 arena for half a year
120-175+ fps and just getting random freezes is stupid af..
Worst part is it's a game issue, not a pc issue. and it makes me cry
I raaaaarely crash or freeze I feel blessed honestly
Same, but this is some ingame mem leak or something weird imo.
i only got the one for the left hand its nice
only issue with vman is not having enough tab 4 points to go around
but i hoenstly didnt knwo other skills can be enhanced
my game freeze at 140+ wave for me everytimes 
TD hurts my soul.
Losing runs for janky reasons after hours feels bad.
Im betting it won't count your 190 either =/
I have 64gb ram so maybe it affects :)
good speedrun gets you enough points for most things you want, responding to JAM
I have 4070ti super i7 1400k with 2x 32gb ram ddr5.. its not a pc issue
It counts after you pass it, so its already counted
Are catch prints always gonna be WAY lower than my logging/mining prints? My oak print is 10m and my fly is 250k
Idleon out-of-context quotes right here
Your ram is too fast if its ddr5 ;)
__TD Placement tip/mini guide __ due to earlier conversation.
Whatever the cost was when placing a tower, is the partial cost you will get back. In easy words you want to make sure the towers you replace later are the last placed ones to get the most money back!
We can see in the bottom row (dps build when u hit wave 200 for example) which towers you keep marked with the red line, the towers labled with numbers is just for easier reference.
We can see that Towers 1+2 and 6-10 will all be replaced. So you want to make sure those are your last placed towers.
An easy way to accomplish this is to place a basic magic tower at 1 and 2, then the kraken at 3. remove towers 1+2 just so you have the gap planned out. Place your dps towers like poison etc at the top so you dont die. Then place 4+5, the 5x parties on the platform far beneath that are not visible on this screenshot.
All your essential towers you will keep are placed, except nothing at 1+2 and 6-10. Now fill those in, i like to do 6-7-8-1-2-9-10 for personal reasons but it doesnt really make much difference, since you'll replace most of these all.
will i get 1t cooking speed today 
Oh that's good, I had no idea
should i make a full troll set for one character or troll pants for all my characters fighting?
vman speed run here i come
sounds like prom night
full troll set
Typicall always happened at 160s, still happens too often, reason i quit TD.
Seeing this again is just cringe cry worthy :/
I noticed it doing my current td, I had the screen on idleon toolbox open and after every 10 waves it updated
because you can then get full magma set, which is bis skilling armour for mining and woodcutting (except boots)
At least there's that. You missed out on the reward souls, but not a terrible loss
Its not a loss at all haha
thoughts on spending on any before we roll into w6 and prayge theres new arcade balls? full hold gamers?
dr?
im a sample size enjoyer myself
Im just waiting for W6, tbh
we will likely get sample size with w6
@autumn hollow20 charge is quite a small thing haha
i have 21 dr already so i know ihe rest would be nice but im at a solid point that maybe w6 IF ANY would be worth
and can finally drop that prayer
u just reminded me to use my 5k balls
trapping critters or shiny chance
i hope next rotation is good
let it rain my friend
ngl id be happy with something that makes that prayer always active at 100% efficiency
Yeah, I am not even close to that atm ๐
without equipping it lol
if forge isn't fixed in w6, you can save for forge cap
You could already drop the prayer?
I can on dk, but not on others. 88%
I'd love an upgrade to "no more prayers" that lets you activate 1-X prayers, and still benefit from the rest at 1/5th
new arcade upgrade pls

I need to bendover backwards to get the extra 2%
"1000% increased chance to get stamps from arcade" please
You got it boss. +bits
I'm still just at disbelieve about the stupid game freeze at wave 200... to try again or to move on -,-
for real lol
@barren otter It happened -,-
Its only another 6 hours or so, nbd
oh no..
Okay here me out with this arcade upgrade
just starting levelign atoming my bubbles can someone explain how high i should level the skilling ones:
pity stamp after 100k balls
stamps are the rarest thing in arcade btw, even rarer than the hat
+bobjoepickle in shop stock and it goes up +1 every 10 upgrades
about 900 is a good spot
https://discordapp.com/channels/437797104786604034/1087501872002256966/1087501872002256966
use the spreadsheet, set it to 80%, get the skilling bubbles, there, then do like 85%, 90% etc.
Depends on their other bubbles
pity leviathan after spending $100
but use IT or IE review
not worth "atoming" that most likely atm
% damage arcade would be nice
it will show you the % efficiency
but if you started atoming, I would suggest lllaaaarrrryyyy to 1,100
you won't regret it later
@dapper prismShould I quit after 190 because I am not sure I have the damage for 200
This is 957 btw
Worth a try if you already got there, remember that in 200 once you got rid of most mobs youll change to a lot more dps stuff
maybe I should do it hmm
il probably reach 200, kill most small mobs, switch to dps and go to sleep
Off to TD2, going to take Herus's advice and try the browser version
I just went to browser version, and man, its super fast. Idk what's wrong with mobile
loading time between zones reduced by 90%
what are y'alls last minute goals before W6??
everything
for me it's praying for the last few eldritches
kil cattle on my vman
w5 eclipse and w5 superchow
For me, cleaning up a bunch of achievements I missed. Down to only 1 W3 achievement left
Getting 100m kills for my blood berserker for super chow in the rift
Its so well calculated I am gonna get it exactly
I screwed that up recently, now instead of getting 2.5m kills an hour I am getting 900k =/
I didnt know it was a thing either, I am doing 1.1m kills an hour atm
My kills per kill per str is at 720%, that helps a shit ton
oh lord i never thought about that so he's gonna strug on 42 lmao
I will be done with superchow on Wednesday though, so I'll have 2 days to get 50m kills. Will be about 20m off of superhow rift
i'm also completing super chow on rift
so might as well go laddle farming
currently 82m
I want to do it now, because there might be new rift stuff next patch
unlikely
honestly i kinda like the idea of actually unlocking things and seeing it advance sometimes rather than "pre-completing" certain things
thats where a lot of the joy of this game comes from for me
I think he will bring new equinox and rift challenges later
I aint precompleting tho
when w6 drops my plan is to explore everything already released myself to see what changed
without reading the update, and then if i miss anything ill read the patch notes
forgpt about the rift. Should revisit that. got stuck on 46 last i remember
wait ;9
But u wont know if u missed anything ๐
i just mean after i check everything
i hope there'll be bonus like: gaming harvest all filter
im sure there will be some spoilers in the patch notes cuz i havent made it to everything
but thats okay with me, as long as ive read through for everything ive already unlocked
My exact plan after release
- Sample new ores
- Put all characters to afk push
- Do slight breeding stuff to unlock new meals
- Level up new meals a little, maybe 20-50k laddles.
- Do new skills with the meal bonuses (New meals most likely will affect new skills)
- After new skills have nothing to do or have wait times go active push on bubo.
i think we might be missing some big qol changes from this update 
- Do Breeding New spices + unlock new meals
- Sample Godshard Ore
- Have every alt in combat preset to afk push new zones
- Check vial resources requirement to know where/when to sample new stuff.
Should all only take a brief moment - Meanwhile checkout new skills and their requirements/bonuses.
Pretty much the same yeh
with two armours there might be two ores
I think doing meals will take maybe 10-30 minutes, depending on how much you want to do
True, i dont mind being a little wasteful:
https://i.imgur.com/rqWTuXq.png
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has anyone else had the bug where ie thinks you have food lust when you havent unlocked it yet
fuck, I missed 15000 
Happening to a lot of people, must have been an update recently bc before there wasn't much equinox stuff added
mines behaving itself at least

yeah mine works too, but its also showing others who dont even have it xd
love how this is immediately wrong tho
indeed
is that due to bundle?
could be
forgot how much bundle even gave
fun fact: if you leave crystal island with enemies spawned they will disappear if you leave
it was like 1.2 or somethin
same with the bottles.
yeah i knew about the bottles and trash, disappointing to find out from experience the crystal island one though 
learned this sadly, came, they were there, switched characters for better drop rate and they were gone
311 + 50% (155.5) = 466.5 Quickmafs
yeah my issue was wrong talent preset
so yeh, bundle is not being tracked (yet)
was collecting afk gains with dk and forgot to swap off gaming preset
have you guys ever wondered why there is no voice channels on idleon?
happens often, but dk can easily nuke them even on non combat talents imo.
i only do 17m min without talents :/
i probably couldve killed them eventually, although i was also worried they worked the same as regular crystals in that they get worse the longer theyre alive
they're immune to that little bug
even with 1 point into each 0 talent?
it's actually not worse longer they're alive - if the game cloud saves while crystals exist, it bugs their stats out
nah i dont have 1 point in anything other than skilling talents
didnt think that would be a thing but that is a good idea
Should be a bunch more.. several to like 13 from symbols alone, then ES passive
that alone should easily net you 15-20ish?
with my current setup i only get 10
guess no lvl 240 symbols yet?
i only have 1 point in talent boosting talent on almost all my chars
nope
im pretty w5 midgame atm
i was hoping i could get to 6 lab soon but i might be further than i thought
thats early w5 imo o.o
for efficient players im sure it is lol
Youre early game if youre in world 5
Barely left tutorial if you havent even killed normal kruk
like i said, everyone has a different definition of progress status lol
ive killed chaotic kruk
Nah nah, people called me mid game when I "only" have a 1 billion oak sample
exactly
to the people on the leaderboards everyone else hasnt even left early game
its all perspective based
and i find that the further you get in idleon the more you forget where you used to be relatively
Late game implies you're "late in the game". You haven't even done the latest boss difficulty, so I don't know how you can say you are 
he didnt say he is late game
i didnt say late game
also i wouldnt say in any video game that you arent late game for not killing the hardest enemy
most games, late game comes way before final enemy
Just depends on the game
yeah
Killing kuttle has barely anything to do with progress itself, so many other variables
yeah i agree
i think it depends, some ppl has Q dmg and low alchemy, others have way lower dmg, but better alchemy
exactly
Damage is the worst indicator of progress in IdleOn
thats why its probably very difficult to objectively gauge where everyone is in terms of progress
Damage and character level xD
there are way too many variables
I feel like damage is a better representation than defense bubble
Although true, you can still gauge it based on what's left
Character level comes from a single bubble in the game 
Things are only going to get even more vague when stamps are unlocked
yeah i mean some people would say killing kattlekruk is beating the game
Finishing off all the core content in certain worlds like all eclipse, all rift, all core talents maxed with 245 books, etc. Adds up
since its the last enemy
Well some people shouldnt have an opinion then xD
Ehh, it's also an idle game. Idle games never finish at the traditional "end goal" set out by the dev
but they do xD
And that's true across every idle game
Just need this first egg to turn void so its 100% to unlock 
Eh depends, if you have all the core gameplay mechcanics essentially completed, then you are late/end game
Well, there are set limitations on progression. If you're 99% bubbles and at the realistic limit of stamps and afk gains, then yeah you kinda are
I have been playing since world 2, i never "competed" I dont do degen strategies like 2 minute claims, I just cruise through the game for fun, if I start tryharding like crazy I will burnout and quit. But I wouldnt call my self "mid game" when it would take at least a year minimum to reach where I am right now.
But there are also max vials, max TD, cooking, etc... that go alongside things
^ thats me with "hourly clicks", like i love min maxing but my hourly clicks were barely even a daily or weekly thing, that would burn me out so quickly
I only started hourly clicking in the past month, because I coudlnt be bothered beforew
I switched everything back to oak and copper, atoms going crazy
red eggs when 
I even took a year break from idleon after the warn from lava in world 4
thats why I wasnt here for world 5 release
But I get the point that "progression is relative to the individual".
i took about a year break after i got halfway through w2
The only thing is, we have an actual tool to measure progression as a percentage of a theoretical total. So there absolutely is a gauge for endgame, it's just not 100% clearly agreed upon
I feel like that applies a lot more to a game like Runescape, as there's way stronger goals, here at the end the game still has a semi-linear ending. You end up finishing XYZ content and mechanics where you're not left with much besides dk beans, bubo worms, type thing
that is true but in casual conversation most people dont refer to the gauge to describe their progress, even though they should
Sooner or later people will be using scolibot to describe their progress 
Does this imply that theres 2 sets ready to ship, so maybe we will have boss of world 6 released alongside the world this time? It has been a long development cycle
tysm
isnt there a weapon set for every armor set
it also shows your max areas and min areas 
i guess not for boss armor technically
but yeah i would assume theres at least 2 wep sets for w6
Yes, and the second set is boss armor, which has a boss weapon, if were getting 2 sets off the bat means there might be boss immediately
;3 I opened discord just in time
tbh i automatically assumed there would already be a boss lmao
my guess is thats how w6 will be
well, he already has art from gods
if it was like that for all the others
I doubt we'll even have a task board and merits until April
Why? I literally just gave compelling evidence were getting boss asap haha
Maybe, maybe we'll get it in March
W2 too, I think
idk i dont think what he said is a good enough implication for on release boss stuff
W 1,2,3,4 all had weapons off the bat, only w5 didn't
I feel like we don't need to speculate yet
definitely inevitable releases but i dont think immediate
We're all just the secondary beta testers anyway 
Yes but we have confirmation he already has 2 sets of armor done too
yes, and apart from w5 the boss set is the third set
maybe there'll be gear set that uses boss materials, but there'll be no boss 
I'm at 50%/80% for new pet with purple, don't quite need red eggs yet 
Soon 
I am sniffing copium ok? Let me be a druggie
yeah that's the best approach
Hoping once that first turns green and i get 2 unlocks b2b, I can at least get one of the last 2 W4 pets in the remaining eggs
He already said we won't have sailing 2.0, so that's enough for me
Stamps look to be unshackled in some way
Those are the 2 things I care about
what would sailing 2.0 be?

Digging
wouldnt mind that if the ui was halfway decent xD
"Hiking"
spelunking?
I liked spelunking honestly
yeeeeeeeeah sailing UI wasn't the greatest and we got baited into thinking there'd be an update 
Spelunk carefully folks 
Sorry buddy, nuggets already stole the digging aspect 
Let's be honest, no one wants more artifacts.... right?
Yeah and breeding stole pets but were getting some fighting stuff in skill 3
True ๐ญ
I am 60% sure its a autobattler, because of 1 thing
Back then, sticking people in lab would increase their main stat over time
That was the concept
Oh, that was along with everything else
Chess board, autobattler confirmed
might be
Hey, I play chess
Knight to E6
I'd be happy if it was actually skill related! 
I haven't played chess since I abandoned my ranking 
And since theres winning and battles, and something resembling pets, it might just be an autobattler
0-0
(As in castling, to the doofuses who don't play chess ๐ )
My pawn grows into a queen
casual 0-0-0 enjoyer 
ye, and from blog updates, it seems like he spent a lot of time on this
Ayyyy
so will it be just breeding battles 2.0?
Probably none of above XD
Then whats your take
||my guess is it works something like the game backpack battles, its an offline duel of someone elses build||
Honestly what bob said
imo, it's just "next level"
i don't think that they'll be pvp
I'm just hoping it'll be fun! 
but if so, this will be huge
Anything is fun in idleon no cap
I introduce to you Poing at 1fps
number go up 
Yeah pong sucks
someone say number go up???
As long as it gives me forge capacity and adds numerous 0s to my gaming bits multiplier, I don't care what it is 
Poing at 240 fps would be bad enough
Depends what you mean by last
There's some not in the game
for someone with 3.2m oak logs as highest sample, are the best nbnl bubbles to target anvil/soul/critter bubbles?
Thats all ie shows anyways
fair enough - there's not much trick to it. Items always drop at at least your current tier so always upgrade if you see it
there's some RNG items that provide better odds of upgrades and one that drops a full suite of gear for your char - these are good
I typically start a run buying a couple weapons, seeing if the number is higher, then repeating, then just checking other weapons as I go
it's not too bad to do but there is an amount of luck involved
Solo runs should be fine though right?
you want to try and always have nblb always hitting stuff that sucks to get like salts and such. You should be able to gather items to level the good bubbles yourself
yeah, only downside of a foal run is you can't roll crit chance on weapons as you'll be constantly rerolling them
moment of truth๐
but it's still more than enough to clear it
yeah right now im having trouble greenstacking nails, working on getting prints for greenstacks/anvil points atm
Going for mk obol rn, then pop obol, dungeon weapons, and i can make the last bag i believe
I'm enjoying these missing hats lol
Time to see what pet I get
Ram
Atleast a new one
it's possible to get locked out of the white pets so getting those is still kinda important
ik in t5 u get locked out
Treat tier 5 is 0% on the whites yeah
If this next fisticuff is another 1 in 50m drop Iโm gonna lose my mind
hopefully rarer tbh
Start losing jt
bouta take my anger out
<- slimeless forever ๐ข
I hope so
I got waaaay too many points
I got 188 unlocks
๐
what happened to the 5 skull boss thread?
FINALLY 1B
itโs down
Basically an exploit was found and posted there so it was deleted for this week only
what was it??๐๐
Talking about is bannable
End of the topic for me
Both but depends if u repeatedly break the rule
does island random bonus affect all random events or just the ones on the rando island?
hmmm welp off that topic
yes.
r/inclusiveor ๐ฆ
welp
so many easy slots, I'm jealous
I see a few easy ones but not necesarily 'so many'
compared to the not in the games ones they're easy
at least 17 easy ones there between boss wings, obols, card packs and the like
Do I spend my 900 gems on crystal 3d or wait for limited shop reset?
bet
twinssss
you're ahead of me
Since when are boss wings easy
And card packs are easy but am i really gonna spend gems on that
I'm going quite slow hoever, as I'm doing cards at the same time
Iโm right behind you guys๐
i mean...in world 5 i'd call them free
How to get hundreds of amarok keys like u guys?
oh right... i'm probably going to be exhausting a lot of candy for that instead
there a new 3d printer upgrade in gem shop?
itโs not new๐
amarok is just...over time. 10 a day
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the rest you either get colo (w2/3) or farm thjem (w4/5)
efaunt?
I'm just gonna assume we're at different stages, but boss wings are not difficult with half decent DR
Is 13.5 half decent?
YOWCHH
I happened to get kruk wing today going for obol
saving my keys for deathjoepickle 
Ill maybe take a look at it later, rn im doing obols, then dungeon ones
i've been doing every quest (except yonder, bill and shovell fuck them) on every character for hours now
those colo tickets 
whatever excuse we can use aye
I've been slacking on even buying them
Worst thing is i did yonder, crafted the npc token without dropping yondergreen first
And i do not have the urge to do that dude again
I dislike bill brrr more than yonder
Hello Luuk! ๐
Whats his quests again?
Finally โspearโ again #๐future-content-blog message
Hey
It's been so long 
Glad to see you havent been banned yet
I tought 2 was the wand and 4 the axe lol
Hey! That's some good optimism ๐
That staff looking like hammer
I'll reach W6 on release
Im sure youll thrive there
what are these on bottom right?
;3 I'll die
I booked off the 15th and 16th from work for a concert which is cancelled now
so i have release day free
Atleast you get to play the skills
Jeeze A6, pinging me 5 hours after my comment
Yep! It'll help with my guide
Hey, I was busy >;3
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npc tokens to make world trophies
doing 2 blunder and desert is worth it for achieves
That โcancelled concertโ is a plan i believe to play idleon
Lol, I thought it'd give me decent anvil exp
It gave me 12 exp on the W2 one I think
Triple thread
new bullets for xp could be hype
Dont coldseeker bullets already give pretty good xp
they're best exp for direct crafting
have to slow craft tho or you lose a bunch of exp
?
if you hold to craft from inv it gets quicker but you lose out on exp gains
like it doesn't give exp for a lot of them
Cant wait to craft new bullet requring 10k of coldseeker bullets per 
Lava Code 
I only just unlocked Anvil Tab 4 on the alt today
so close like 10 gems off
Hmm?
nice
@dapper prism
THE FINAL BOSS

Clarify..? ๐
anyone remember the trick to the constellation achievements? Wife cleared both 4/5 ones today but can't get it to proc ๐
๐ฎโ๐จ Two points away from more damage
Quick question should I save for a new import in gaming or keep spending them?
Aw, so close
Not sure, might just be a simple cloudsave
I doubt this is the right place to ask this. But does anyone know how the rift auto collection works? I don't think I am getting my critters. The only ones I'm concerned with are the mice as they are used for salts.
Log out to the select character page, then log back in to the same char
figured it out, have to enter w4/5 town
https://felixjg.idleonefficiency.com/world-2/alchemy
done with bubble 2's for now, where should I dump my boron uses?
It happened automatically
depends on how long do you need to save for and what import are you trying tob uy
only procs once a day
The one with first green bits
chopping bubbles problably
The logs
either go for 20h traps or less if you wanna do it manually too
Specifically, it only procs on the first character you log in after the daily reset
bottom left? i wouldn't save for it
Yes but I have a 60 hour trap but only have 18 mice. After I logged in
It would take 2000 q bits right?
nvm, log is good
I'd say dchef
its worth saving for, but not if it takes over a week
did you place xp only traps?
Has it been 60 hours, and has a daily reset passed since you logged in a character after it completed?
It's definitely gonna take a week cause I can at most get 25-30 q per day
Nope I made sure it was giving mice and yes it has the trap has been reset
ight cheers :] I was thinking chef or bob
What time did you place it, how long have you been on today, and when is your daily reset?
then i'd invest a bit more in fertilizer so it'll take less time
Hmm
not sure what else could be the problem then.. but i wouldnt place 60h traps anyway
Yeah I also recently bought the golden fountain once
Id definetely do 5k+ bob first, a lot of my bubbles way lower than yours bub Bob 5k asap to maximize profits on con ๐
Although it yet to work properly
Trickz, did you see?
Placed it 3 days ago trap has reset so I'm sure my daily reset has passed. I think mine is somewhere around 3am.
Just came back, lost my TD2 at 160 ๐ฆ still an upgrade but gg having to afk
Bob do be slacking a bit, dchef would only take about a week to get to 90% though I think
oh sweet and gz!
Final got it boys but is this active or AFK?
real 90% ?
1612 yeah
also real 90% about to change
Huh, that doesn't mention the shiny pet part. I knew I'd seen it like that
Did it mention on wiki? im check
active only
might active on BM sometimes then i need those dam eggs
bit iffy with new world and new meals, may be best to then yeh push d chef a little. Although to most your bubbles i would have gotten that 5k+ bob a long time ago, since it's just one of those annoying time gated things
you're right I definitely neglected it, hourly clicks and doot are doing a lot of the leg work on some of them
I will be able to zoom bob straight to 5k on friday with stopwatches
I read, "A bit Griffy" XD
Depending may not want to waste those on something like bob, may be better on new bubbles
Wiki says shiny tho? im confused is this a lava mistake thing or what
It levels shiny pet progress, only active.
Ah gotcha thought it was just eggs
Last terrible and not very tracked test i did, with 15 shiny in the pen, i got about 3h progress in 30mins.
In game description doesn't mention it, which is why I didn't know
oh man look at those days
Keep in mind, 3 days with 3 shiny = 1 day type thing.
+1 Slab
Nice. I have 3 of those =/
There a way to actually active bm without jumping maps?
Still missing the str one
I want it 
In terms of making progress, I think I'm doing better than yesterday (Left is yesterday)
Nice work, almost 4x the kills and way higher accuracy
Yeah


