lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[teal lynx]

Use the Wiki

[cyan mantle]

I already have a question

[next locust]

Hit me

[cyan mantle]

What is the max lvl you can do on smithy upgrades

[next locust]

Smithy? Anvil?

[cyan mantle]

Forge I mean

[next locust]

Ah depends on the bonus

[cyan mantle]

Does the wiki have like a page telling all of them?

[next locust]

IE has them pretty sure

[brazen fern]

when i setup traps on my maestro, do i always choose the natural traps even tho i want the shinys to progress?

or do i stick to silkskin boxes?

[next locust]

Do natural traps on himself. Let the scrubs farm the shinies. For maestro exp is what matters most

[lyric sequoia]

W6 is out early, restart your games waaaaaooooow

[next locust]

Wooooaoooaool

[cyan mantle]

Ye I just completely maxed it all

[brazen fern]

i thought i setup on maestro cause he gets more exp that way from all collecting?!

[humble garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/hunter-x-hunter-gif-1385292026447264066

[teal lynx]

Vman gets the XP for his own Traps and he can give more XP to your other Chars
The description is a little misleading

[brazen fern]

thanks for the enlightment, so i setup natural on himself and silkskin on everyone else

[next locust]

The character who owns the trap gets the exp. When you set trap it uses the efficiency and exp multipliers of that character who you use to set it on the traps

[teal lynx]

I personally do 8 Blobfish on Vman, Vman set 1 Blobfish Natural on everyone else
BM sets the other Traps, whatever you desire

[next locust]

I use exactly the same setup

[brazen fern]

does the kind of trapped mob influence the exp i get? should my maestro always catch the "newest" critter?

[next locust]

Yes

[tidal ice]

Yea, exp go up

[next locust]

Newest critter is best exp

Boom shakalaka baby!!!
Hashtag NoAutoloot
Hashtag NoRegrets
@cerulean hemlock gimme that respect now

[pseudo blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-no-proof-sonic-gif-25655425

[night locust]

Does mk increase money farm?

[cyan mantle]

Ok so now I'm absolutely broke and the last cauldron I need to max out is the green cauldron

[tacit tulip]

there's a star talent for it (coins for charon) but otherwise no

[potent maple]

in a very roundabout way, it can cuz of this

[tacit tulip]

true 😄

[night locust]

charon?

[tacit tulip]

If we're going on technicalities, multikill will let you progress through w6 faster, which will earn you more money 😄

[night locust]

oh this one

[night locust]

tnx

[next locust]

On p2w tab? You can just go farm more money and upgrade it later.

[night locust]

so using midas prayer is a no go?

[cyan mantle]

I also got a new bubble for the power cauldron

[potent maple]

gems will let you progress through w6 faster, which will earn lava more money 😆

[next locust]

Nice! Wish you luck to get that diamond chef bubble on yellow soon

[cyan mantle]

I will get it soon

[left spoke]

Hi guys, what trap should I use to farm shiny frogs (for the vial) ?

[cyan mantle]

Siltskin traps

[left spoke]

Does it multiply shiny chance or shiny quantity ?

[teal lynx]

20 minute traps with the Prayer - Traps shouldn't matter too much

[potent maple]

it says in the description in game

[cyan mantle]

Silkskin traps have a higher chance

[left spoke]

It says x30 Shiny but you know, it's Idleon

[teal lynx]

If you don't get 100% shiny chance on Frogs in W5, you did something wrong

[left spoke]

I check once a day so it won't work for me but thanks

[potent maple]

i use 10 hr royal traps with auto arm for vial quantity

cuz i check 1x per day and the auto arm can grab the other check

[left spoke]

Yeah but here I need shiny, that's why I'm wondering what trap I shoud use

[potent maple]

ah for shiny vials, gotcha

[somber sparrow]

why does your monitor look like you eat from it?

[next locust]

I dunno. Might be your side

[potent maple]

so go to the wiki, sort by shiny chance, then look for the times per day you think it'll be collected, like you check 1x and auto arm checks 1x, so look for a 10 hr trap, or... you're bored and clicking collect every 20 mins, look for one of those with highest shiny chance

[next locust]

Honestly, only noticed the dust after taking the pic

[steady beacon]

quick question - is a lot of the Vman's DR hidden? After maxing out cards and skills, I'm getting 13.6 DR on the vman, vs 16.5 on my DK.

i would have expected vman to do better somehow.

[teal lynx]

Vman does get more. You must have missed something - Card doublers, Keychains, Starsigns, Cape, Trophy, Card set

[left spoke]

Same obols ?

[steady beacon]

aw, crap. of course.

not thinking straight today.

[random saddle]

Which trap is best for quantity im having trouble with salts now

[eternal wasp]

I'm dumb, I can't understand anything

[teal lynx]

Wooden 5 Days best for Critters, but no XP
Royal 7 Days slightly worse for Critters, but with XP
Royal 40 hours just slightly worse than 7 days
Edit: The Lazy Vacuum Route

And so on

[eternal wasp]

Okie

I'm currently doing royal 10hr

But I'm kinda forgetting about claiming the traps

[teal lynx]

Yeah that would be the best if you don't let Rift Vacuum do it

Actually that's even better than 20 hours Cardboards with Rift Vacuum

[eternal wasp]

I guess, I'll leave on 10hr traps then

If only royal traps had 20hr timers

[random saddle]

How to unlock blobs is it through quests but not from hunter?

[teal lynx]

Through Quest at the Choccie Map in W4

There is a Blobfish

[untold saffron]

9 omni procs in one character rotation

[pastel bramble]

finallly its done

[vapid warren]

Why can I no buy ):

[pastel bramble]

u can spend it on the random island

to increase drop rate/double spawn chance

[vapid warren]

I mean fractal island

[pastel bramble]

oh 😄

didnt notice ur missing that one

[vapid warren]

Guess I need 571 lol

[pastel bramble]

maybe its a visual bug and u have a partial bottle or something

like how snail mail sometimes shows .333333 recurring

[upper slate]

is it worth it to use the 5 star cardifier for crystal mob or card drop chance cards?

[brazen fern]

do i not get something with this interaction?

[tacit tulip]

there's decimal bottles yeah, you'll be on like 569.5 and lava doesn't like you, so no buy until tomorrow

[pastel bramble]

yes but i would use it for harder to get cards like boss cards or hard to get cards from resource etc.

the crystal cards are pretty easy to get manually

[upper slate]

so far I plan on getting Chaotic Troll, Blighted Chizoar, and Blitzkrieg Troll. Maybe the Chaotic Chizoar

[vapid warren]

):

[rugged token]

Anvil items aren't actively created on all characters all the time, they get made for the afk time claimed when logging into afk characters so it's kind of a wack bonus. it also doesn't seem like deposits them because you're creating new ones with the afk claim

[brazen fern]

the screenshots are from my active character

[tacit tulip]

it also only runs once daily (at reset)

[fading skiff]

ok, lets try this again... 3 MORE COGS

2!!

[brazen fern]

oh thats good to know so i should increase my cap for the lower productions

[pastel bramble]

the 3 kattle cards are very strong too

[tacit tulip]

some are better than others...

[rugged token]

Better for you to just get into the habit of collecting your anvil items regularly if you're in need of them

[untold saffron]

Don't ruby anything until we know the W6 cards now

[vapid warren]

green stacking them can be a paaaaain

[tacit tulip]

Even without the cards, we know we're getting some sort of change to bosses from deathjoepickle - maybe it'll result on thiose cards being easier to farm

[untold saffron]

True

[upper slate]

Good point. Does the limited cardify rotation change after the update?

[tacit tulip]

if the rotation changes it does but they may not even be in rotation

[upper slate]

So I should buy them and save them until W6 hits

[untold saffron]

Can't you buy but not spend them

[upper slate]

ok I'll do that.

[untold saffron]

He should make the new rotation as hype as possible

[tacit tulip]

draconic cauldron

[untold saffron]

DR keychains

I beg

[pastel bramble]

i think he will put more ruby in rotation as well as elite class tokens most probably

[tacit tulip]

I'd be up for DR chains

I don't have pirate hat either so can I have that too pls 😄

[rugged token]

all of the bis fomo shop items pog

[untold saffron]

W5 koll ring perhaps

[tacit tulip]

was there afk fomo chains too? my afk chains suck

[rugged token]

no, that's what trickz and i were copiuming about yesterday

imagine 15-20% afk chains

that's crazy

[teal lynx]

There were the IS Keychains which rolled up to 12% afk?

[vapid warren]

Man im so unlucky in arcade lol

not a single stamp or pickle. Nothing higher than purple reward.

[rugged token]

yeah they did iirc one of the guys yesterday had a 3%/6%

[vapid warren]

Whats IS keychains?

[rugged token]

Idle Skilling keychains

[tacit tulip]

they looked like the map keys from idle skilling right?

[sweet pine]

more active exp card

[rugged token]

I wasn't around to actually get them but yeah they were the map keys from IS

[sweet pine]

the one and only 6/6 afk gains

[shy flame]

is end game damage just how much slap could a quick slap slap if a quick slap could quick slap?

[finite patio]

Nah, a lot of multipliers and the true power of a lot of base stats 😮

[sacred verge]

are they gone now?

[rugged token]

QS is for when endgame is done doing everything else

[sacred verge]

done need QS for dmg at all

[tacit tulip]

bob>qs

[rugged token]

as far as i'm aware they are no longer obtainable

[shy flame]

is bob another alchemy thing because all I can come up with is bobjoepickle

[sweet pine]

3k bob and 3k diamond chief first for me

[shy flame]

OH

[rugged token]

con exp goes brr

not mine

but other peoples

[shy flame]

okay yes con exp makes sense

[finite patio]

3k diamond for low increase? just go for bob then

[sacred verge]

diamond chef is not a low increase

[sweet pine]

bob first, and diamond chief is still decent

[rugged token]

3323 dchef is 95% of bubble

[night locust]

the .02 increase is good?

[finite patio]

Toolbox is wrong then?

[tacit tulip]

it's .02 increase 57 times

so it turns out to be significant

[rugged token]

yes because of this ^

[tacit tulip]

it'll be even more potent come w6 and the new plates, too

[sacred verge]

and yes, toolbox is very wrong for dchef

[tacit tulip]

yeah TB shows 95% for a single instance of the buff

[rugged token]

It's because IE/IT both calculate the bubbles effectiveness for 1 buff

[tacit tulip]

It's not wrong as far as the bubble goes, but it is wrong for the total effect

[finite patio]

interesting, stopped on dchef after 95% shown

[tacit tulip]

If you use the excel sheet they have a section for full bonus

[rugged token]

DChef Values:

• 90% 1612
• 91% 1802
• 92% 2040
• 93% 2345
• 94% 2752
• 95% 3323

[finite patio]

Thanks, will go for that till w6. My slow speed will like it 🙂

[night locust]

Q: on mini boss, do stacking them is good, or kill everytime it spawn 1x

[tacit tulip]

3323 is 1.299x
247 is 1.285

1.285^57 = about 1.6million x speed
1.299^57 = 3 mil speed

So hitting true 95% is about double the total cooking speed

[rugged token]

kill every 2 spawns for the minimal waiting time

[chilly siren]

it only work once a day when you log in a character (might need to wait like 2-3 min for it to proc), good if your production isn't full in once day
suck if you have high production speed

[brazen fern]

yeah got that from others too, so i should place those who produce the couple first materials at a max limit of ~24 hrs of production

[rustic garnet]

Do we know if the new armor sets will require old armor to be crafted?

[plucky edge]

lava said it requires kettle so i guess it will be kattle armor

[tacit tulip]

He also said it'd probably be divine back in september, in case "kettle" isn't enough for people

[sacred verge]

might be divine trophy

or divine pearl

[rustic garnet]

ok that's fantastic if it's kettle

It would suck if it ws magma

I turned a good chunk of my magma into divine

Anyone have a feel for how many FMJs are going to be good enough?

[eternal dove]

all souls vials maxed

[zinc torrent]

How do I get Beginner Best Class star Talent book

[sacred verge]

wiki got you

[eternal dove]

now for my last critter vial

[gray elbow]

hi i don't understand what this means

Maximum food lust discount reached, go upgrade a meal

[zinc torrent]

@sacred verge not really I have vman but haven't gotten the book

[gray elbow]

what should i do ?

[lapis elm]

Food lust is the equinox bonus that gives a discount to meal upgrades (cooking, w4 mech) for every random boss kill

[night locust]

when you reach 100% survival on your furthest mob

[lapis elm]

Go to W4 and upgrade a meal

[eternal dove]

beat me to it

[gray elbow]

ohh thanks

[tidal ice]

then again, its telling me the same and I am nowhere close to that equinox unlock

[rugged token]

Just means you've killed random event bosses = to the amount of upgrades purchased for food lust so your next meal upgrade in cooking will have the maximum discount for your current upgrade level

[eternal dove]

speaking of equinox that reminded me to put my last point into faux jewels

[gray elbow]

ohh i understand thanks for the explonation 🙂

[lapis elm]

That feeling when your log finally stops giving freebies and you can be free

[eternal dove]

andddddd thats icing ironbites gs

[lapis elm]

31% nugget increase ok gaming

To the shelf you go until W6

[eternal dove]

i havent seen a nugget increase in months

[lapis elm]

IT just updated but I was like 9k deep?

So not as bad as last time

Nowhere close to superbit

[eternal dove]

i havent been chem farming tho

[lapis elm]

It's time to get the T7 section going

Truly afk for 6 days

[plucky edge]

hit a 130 increase to my 5mil nugg yesterday with 3k nuggs clicked

[eternal dove]

i got my first t7 same day i unlocked that superbit. first chem i clicked upgraded a chem

only 16m more small hp pots til saucy logs done

[lapis elm]

The T7 corner is ready

9k nuggets had to have been a couple hundred mil max but I got stuck with 28

[eternal dove]

absolutely not optimized but im just letting most of these t6 chill and leave a couple spots for possible chems. im not super worried bout gaming atm until i get my snail to 20

im encouraging tf outta my snail

[lapis elm]

The 20 grind is bogus

You at 19

[eternal dove]

im gonna keep encouraging until fail reset is under 15%

no i just got back to 18

i was at 19 at one point by sheer dumb luck but i got greedy

[plucky edge]

i was at 19 and had spend like a month worth of mail in encouragement and i failed

i was very sad that day

[eternal dove]

[lapis elm]

I've failed the 18 -> 19 push 3 times so far which is less than others but still hurts I'm super cautious now

Got ignorant after just 1 tapping all the way to 15

[eternal dove]

i went on a lucky streak straight from 15 to 19 after i first achieved 15. never reset once and never encouraged.... ill never have that luck again

[lapis elm]

Wait a second... I just noticed I never did woodshroom eclipse

It does suck but I skipped it and completely forgot about it

Is it worth

If only all mushroom kills counted towards money gain

[fallen torrent]

maybe next upgrade

haha

mining statue GS

Xayayah....logfries are 30M requirement for the small redp ot

i tought it was 30M for red pot GS+logfries 😦

so im not 3M away... im 13M away 😢

[teal lynx]

I also thought 30m for both and was devastated when I found out

[eternal dove]

yeahhhhh its unfortunate i keep forgetting as well

better keep that dk on nuttos

[fallen torrent]

4 days before W6, idk if imma be ableto get 200

im missing 4

[eternal dove]

im missing 12

[teal lynx]

You both definitely get 200 GS early on in W6

Hey Biggy 👋

[plucky edge]

i first looked at logfries and thought i need 30m for every boost food craft so im kinda happy that i didnt

[eternal dove]

but its my bonus and i want it now!

[fallen torrent]

hi biggy 😄

[plucky edge]

Hey Icy

[teal lynx]

I got Equi Symbols done a week ago
It definitely feels really good

[fallen torrent]

whole team is at poop while i was dk beans for mining statue, now im missing 1.1m beholder

and with that im short 5M average strenght potion

unless-

SLURPING IS 30M FOR BOTH

[teal lynx]

I used candies on those (Small Health)
I had infinite candy through my Colo addiction at the time

[fallen torrent]

there oyu go, my portal finally maxed on es

+0.3% and 5 sec

380T/800T bits, getting there

[fading skiff]

please game.. just two more cogs

im not losing my mind at all

[fallen torrent]

420T/800T and for now gaming is done

[fading skiff]

[fallen torrent]

thats me with small red potion

[fading skiff]

at least you can afk that

i'm out here clicking the same button every 10s

[fallen torrent]

i have to active it, cause it takes that much.

[fading skiff]

1 cog left i literally shouted

[fallen torrent]

did you think about getting your dk from board to the cog crafting

for much higher speed?

[fading skiff]

yeah he's there

the byproduct of this awful task is that i've now got a pretty nice cog board

and a ton of obols

[fallen torrent]

obols?

but dont worry infa, ive been clicking gaming for a good hour now

[fading skiff]

the cogs are done

[fading skiff]

the dice ones and pop

[inland lintel]

Extra bubble boost caps at 170 like the other boosts, but does anyone know the mathematical stopping point where you will straight up lose progress boosting it? I'm certain that the extra chance of getting a 4th bubble going from 167 to 170 is not going to make up for just increasing another boost by 3 instead.
In other words, where is a good place to stop boosting extra chance?

[keen trellis]

Eh just max it at 170

[tacit tulip]

the cost of maxing it is tiny in comparison to unlocking just the w6 bubbles, nevermind w7/8

[inland lintel]

But is it worth maxing before maxing brew speed?

[gleaming coral]

can you reroll low tier stat obols before combining them for max bonus or does it only work for misc?

[weak vector]

@tacit tulip what is matty bag max atm?

[tacit tulip]

uhhh 390? Lemme check

ye 390

[weak vector]

ty

[tacit tulip]

not to mention it gets doubled by lab, too

[weak vector]

i just maxed the gem shop bonus and went from 560m cap to 830m. still not enough for crystallin 250 tho

[pure horizon]

Guys

I got a huge upgrade in printing

Before my max print for copper ore was around 300 and now its 7k

Im proud of my self

[sleek ermine]

Damn from 300m to 7k, thats a crazy decrease

[tacit tulip]

Nice - that's significant for where you are. Work on improving your bubbles and resampling will greatly see you improve

damn outsped by the sarcasm

[pure horizon]

Ok

[sleek ermine]

I dont know why, but I am wooshing so hard right now, what does that mean?

[pure horizon]

Im leveling up my Blood berserker first

[tacit tulip]

I was trying to get my answer in before someone made a joke about their sample 😛

[pure horizon]

I need him to be like around level 120 or 130

[sleek ermine]

have you done any focus on getting voidman? Thats honestly a very strong increase in power for your account

[pure horizon]

I dont know how am i in world 5 and can only amaple 7k

[upbeat basin]

Honestly, Every week it's a sheepie...

[weak vector]

many people are

[tacit tulip]

Happens more than you'd think, what matters now is what you do now that you're here

[pure horizon]

My Maestro has a very low damage so its very hard to get him to level 150 since he has 200k damage

[crisp pasture]

I'm excited to see the W6 rushers

[sleek ermine]

my friend who I got to start idleon, as soon as he reached world 5 he put everyone into divinity and started grinding his maestro, he already reached level 150 and he has been playing 2 months maybe

Just wondering how he compares to you

[pure horizon]

💀

[unreal yacht]

hardcore

[pure horizon]

I dont think rushing into divinity first is a good idea

[sleek ermine]

he says sailing is giving him very much damage, have you done sailing a lot?

[pure horizon]

I did

[mystic moth]

Aight i give up. Cant be dealing with this crap today lmao

[sleek ermine]

You push divinity so you can get bear on everyone and not be stuck in lab on each character, so I think its a good idea

[unreal yacht]

Nahh the divnity grind when you first start w5 is so needed

[pure horizon]

Oh

[unreal yacht]

all my chars was on div but one

[sleek ermine]

did you missclick or what

[pure horizon]

All my chars are in lab cuz im leveling up my BB

But i think ur right

[sleek ermine]

You could push divinity for like 2 or 3 weeks and then you will have all characters available to grind and be in the lab at the same time

[pure horizon]

Maybe i should start doing div

[sleek ermine]

i dont really know how long it takes to get bear

its probably faster

[tacit tulip]

bears pretty fast, couple days at most

[sleek ermine]

okay so even better

[unreal yacht]

goat god prob takes a while

[sleek ermine]

do divinity bro its gonna boost you up

[unreal yacht]

but thats a good long term goal

[tacit tulip]

there was one guy on w5 launch who took like 5 days and I swear he wanted to die 😄

[unreal yacht]

yeah i hope it cna be improved in the future div jail sucks

[mystic moth]

No i just cant be bothered to loop today

[sleek ermine]

Have you tried to go for rank 7 plants?

[mystic moth]

Only looping for nugs. Waiting for snail upgrade for any bit pushing

[mystic moth]

Too annoying

[sleek ermine]

Okay, but it reduces the amount of looping you can do every day :)

I have 10 plants reserved for the tier 7 grind and it reduces the amount of stuff you need to do in gaming

[echo crag]

rank 7 plants seem like a project for when you fail at snail x4 -> x5

[mystic moth]

I tried that for a minute then got annoyed and stopped

[solemn mango]

w5 tower defense setup?

[teal lynx]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084925174517866496

[solemn mango]

hmm says no access to td ones

[teal lynx]

#👀read-me click the Peanut

[tacit tulip]

Aye, pancake posted them in endgame chat

might be worth asking him to repost it as an actual thread 😄

[teal lynx]

Or maybe we can tell Rash to Edit the Guide Masterlist to include the " Read me -> Peanut" route

[tacit tulip]

that would work well, too

[teal lynx]

@tall horizon you mind editing the Guide masterlist?
It gets annoying telling people to go to #👀read-me and click the peanut everytime someone asks for TD Setups

[mystic moth]

I could see it without peanut role

(And then i just went and got them)

[teal lynx]

There seem to be a lot of #endgame-gen-chat threads in there. So maybe at the top something like "If you have "No access" to some channels make sure to enable the Endgame-Talk in #👀read-me"

[teal lynx]

I also don't have the Peanut role atm - I think I got the Channel through the id:customize section. But that's way harder than clicking the Peanut 😅

[unreal yacht]

i clicked peanut nothing happened

what channel is suppose to be added

[teal lynx]

Look 2 messages above and you see your answer

[unreal yacht]

no fair u just edited that in

ty tho

[teal lynx]

❓

[unreal yacht]

Oops forget it sorry i didnt have coffee yet

brain half ded

[serene solstice]

@teal lynx ❤️

[cerulean hemlock]

;3 You deserve a

[serene solstice]

pls lava give auto boss farm D:

[pastel bramble]

He's not gonna give us a way to earn gems automatically 😂

Would hurt his profits

Unless he removes the gem drop while auto is active 😁

[vital wave]

can i place other towers or its just poisonic elder?

[serene solstice]

but its annoying to click myself for hours D:

[echo crag]

can place other, you just need the 3 lvl5 poison by wave 50

[pastel bramble]

Yeah all gem farming methods are like that except spikes 😂

[tall horizon]

What do you mean updating it? If you're referring to instructing people how to access, that's already in there.

[echo crag]

its better that way, get ppl to look at the readme XD

[brazen fern]

what does mean in suggestions channel?

[tall horizon]

It's a repeat suggestion

Generally used when a similar suggestion is posted frequently

[sudden halo]

What map should you be doing active BM on?

[cerulean hemlock]

Pins usually help 😉

[teal lynx]

Oh it's not in the Pinned messages, but at the top of the Thread 😅
Did not see that. Only looked at the Pins

[cerulean hemlock]

Also, hello Xayayah!

[teal lynx]

Hey A^6

[fierce oracle]

xayayah, please give me a bit of your 72hr candy luck

[cerulean hemlock]

I had some semi-decent luck yesterday

Three W2 colos, Level 105 orb, 2 twelve hour time candies

Also, unlocked both Vorcai and Berri Bush on the same day

So, overall, a good day yesterday

[echo crag]

you know you probably burned your luck for a while

[cerulean hemlock]

I did

At least, I didn't log in yet

[teal lynx]

Just don't run any Colos pre W6
Atleast that's what I'm doing. I focus on other games outside of IdleOn currently

[tall horizon]

Ya, there isn't really a good way to make people see the instructions 🤷 Ill change the pin so the second message that has the instructions is the pinned one. Maybe it will help lol

[cerulean hemlock]

;3 Threaten them to read instructions!

[echo crag]

ppl actualy read ?

[cerulean hemlock]

No

[fierce oracle]

I want breeding 90 and 69420 fractal before W6, otherwise I'd not be running them

[teal lynx]

Breeding 90

[tall horizon]

that kind of makes it look like there is only 2 guides lol

[fierce oracle]

I'm really close lol

[tall horizon]

guess we'll see what people do

[cerulean hemlock]

I think I won't fail this time

[teal lynx]

I stopped at breeding 74 becaue I'm dumb. I will atleast get it to 75 today or tomorrow

[cerulean hemlock]

33% chance people actually read it 😛

[fierce oracle]

just edit the message and start off with something like "more guides above ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^"

[echo crag]

probably lower than that

[tall horizon]

Probably will if it becomes an issue lol

[cerulean hemlock]

Optimism is something we all need in our lives

[teal lynx]

Hmmm yeah that looks really bad 😅
No way to have 2 messages pinned in Threads?

And I personally think the previous one would be better for overall usage

[tall horizon]

hmm.... i guess I can move around the messages so the instructions are at the top of post 1.

[echo crag]

i prefer being pessimist about it and get surprised when i'm wrong, less disappointment

[cerulean hemlock]

😉 Disappointment....
|| Something I feel each day when I look at my account ||

[fathom lagoon]

Rng poppin off today, 3x 12-hour candies, 3x 24-hour candies, 1x 72 hour candy from slush & mutated mushie kills

[plucky edge]

|| something i feel each day when i look at my mirror ||

[teal lynx]

Now it looks great Rash

[tall horizon]

Ok adjusted, pin 1 now contains the instructions so its first thing you see.

I bet people still miss it

[cerulean hemlock]

This is a group therapy session, isn't it?

[cerulean hemlock]

Imagine people reading the pins 😮‍💨

If that was true, all the, "Vman Deathnote Reset" #bug-reports-🐛 would never exist

[tall horizon]

For mobile users, i understand the lack of pin usage. not steam though lol

mobile discord is absolute trash

[teal lynx]

Atleast the info is in the Pins now 😅
So it's good even if only 2 out of 10 people read it

[tacit tulip]

At least we can accept "users can't read" instead of it being missing. Ty rash

[haughty ivy]

my mman is lvl 144 need to get him to lvl 150, he is currently at mister brightside getting 78m xp ph

should i spend like 50 hours worth of time candy in world 4?

to quench my impatience?

[tacit tulip]

quenching impatience is the best use of candy

do you have the other requirements met?

[fierce oracle]

yeah, the amount of people that can read might be slightly higher than the amount of people who can scroll down one message

[haughty ivy]

yep just need 900k gmush

[tacit tulip]

I'd say go for it then. EXP isn't a great use of candy but I'm a big fan of "if you can candy it, do"

[cerulean hemlock]

Got two printer proccs today 🥳

[haughty ivy]

my bloodbones were the 1st thing i hit 1m with in world 3 - frostflakes

[dim wind]

if you have crystal island unlocked, those are big xp as well

[haughty ivy]

i dont unfortunately

gonna get that next

choice between that and rando

[fathom lagoon]

Best feeling

Oh shit I just realized it’s w6 week finally

Let’s gooo

[coral goblet]

HYPE

[fathom lagoon]

Few more days

[haughty ivy]

i have 5 holy pearls, 1 free level i guess

[mystic moth]

Maybe ™️

At a certain point it turns to 10 pearls per lvl

[haughty ivy]

didnt it give 20

%

woah

[mystic moth]

depends on what lvl you are

[haughty ivy]

144

i should be safe

[mystic moth]

Yeah id say should probably be 20% still

[haughty ivy]

its a weird level to start at

[mystic moth]

Best to save em tho really lol

[haughty ivy]

1 2h candy gives 10%

[cerulean hemlock]

I think it's 300+

Maybe 200+

[haughty ivy]

3 double xps in a row

im on fire

[cerulean hemlock]

:3

[tacit tulip]

If you haven't, picking card sets to complement that is a good idea

[mystic moth]

Need w6 to drop getting bored of all the stuff i gotta do now

[tacit tulip]

afk% from w5 if you have it
afk% cards
exp doubler card (biggie)

[glass flax]

you shouldn't use them until you get higher level

it's not worth it at level 144

[haughty ivy]

kk will just candy my way to 150

[tacit tulip]

I'm bored too

[haughty ivy]

will take about 70 hours

[magic ingot]

Bloon spam for town skills lol

[haughty ivy]

but thats ok

[glass flax]

It's better tbh

[cerulean hemlock]

[tacit tulip]

I just never use my holy pearls. Need to wait until w8

[glass flax]

pearls will always give 20%

so it's much better to use at level 500+ than now

[rugged token]

10%

[glass flax]

and even so with world 6 level 500 might be easy to get

[tacit tulip]

hoping I'll at least be done with mole card before w6

[fathom lagoon]

I’m hoping that’s the case

[glass flax]

finger cross

[cerulean hemlock]

Soon

[fathom lagoon]

When did w5 come out btw?

[cerulean hemlock]

Unless Lava nerfs it

[tacit tulip]

december 19th or so

forget exact date

[fathom lagoon]

Of 2022?

[glass flax]

Don't jinx it 😭

[tacit tulip]

lmao good memory me

[echo gulch]

Is collecting white pearls the best thing for killroy?

[tacit tulip]

First message was 19/12/2022 so that was launch day

[fathom lagoon]

Lmao on the dot

[haughty ivy]

and 150 reached finally

[cerulean hemlock]

Yep, December

[tacit tulip]

shame my brain can't remember important things

[cerulean hemlock]

Since my username was, "AlexaAAAAA", I was called Ma'am on the stream, and Lava said something about me using the she/her pronoun I think, XD

[tacit tulip]

It does sound like someone shouting at alexa tbf

[cerulean hemlock]

XD

[echo crag]

🧠 important things: no, random gaming tidbits: yes

[tacit tulip]

funfact: w4 and 5 were only 8 months apart

[rare dock]

With vman, it says after a speedrun it will copy portal access from other characters. Does this mean once I unlock vman, theres no point in trying to push maps with him? Will it copy from the highest map unlocked character?

[glass flax]

yup

[echo crag]

i thought w4 released in 2021

[glass flax]

you will get 2M kills on each map

[tacit tulip]

April 2022

[glass flax]

and everything is unlocked

[keen trellis]

Early 2022

[tacit tulip]

I joined the game right as w4 came out 😄

[keen trellis]

Same

[coral goblet]

this my first world launch i get to be apart of, started right after w5 came out

[keen trellis]

I joined exactly one month before you lmao

[cerulean hemlock]

Random Gaming Tidbits you say?

[uncut owl]

forever...

[noble sable]

I've been here since the beginning and I'm worse than the a6

[cerulean hemlock]

;3

[glass flax]

and I thought first rank of GOD was hard to get

lol

[tacit tulip]

You'll enjoy it!

things to note:

Stuff may not work
If something looks to be an exploit, don't go shouting about it. Message a mod (Rash is good for this as he's always open).
Have fun, try to collect info
Answer noob questions (this is the best bit)

[keen trellis]

We love answering noob questions

[cerulean hemlock]

Number 4# When unlocking W6, you can share a bunch of tips you find, which can be added to guides

[tacit tulip]

5. Feed trickz energy drink to collate any community information into a useful post

[noble sable]

If you find an exploit, hide it well before I find it

[coral goblet]

for sure

watch discord for the giga tips

[cerulean hemlock]

Blackmail

[glass flax]

Someone knows how much next buble cost to unlock to mean I got all bubles for w6?

[cerulean hemlock]

Should be in #1084911530417606656

[glass flax]

Would that be it?

Oh let me see

[tacit tulip]

37M for w6 I think, so should be there?

[cerulean hemlock]

I've been failing multiple 6%'ers, kinda concerning

[echo crag]

just use the review bot, it will tell you if you clear for w6

[cerulean hemlock]

Ooh! They're in W7 😎

[haughty ivy]

why

is it not done?

[cerulean hemlock]

Rounding

[haughty ivy]

fs sake

[mystic moth]

Ggwp

[tacit tulip]

think it needs to show 12.01 yeah

[noble sable]

The NPC didn't like you

F

[haughty ivy]

he likes me now, just wanted a bit more dead mushy

[cerulean hemlock]

Maybe... they like you so much they'll never want to let you complete their quest

[echo crag]

dead gmush are never wasted anyway

[cerulean hemlock]

Cash% until you do a speedrun

[tacit tulip]

all blobulites have negative character traits

W4 town blob cares too much about semantics, so the rounding wasn't worth it
W5 blob is unemployed because he crashed the stockmarket

[haughty ivy]

is there not a vman trophy?

[tacit tulip]

Nope, you get a nameplate I think instead?

[haughty ivy]

ye

[echo crag]

nameplate yeah

[haughty ivy]

kk i thought npc really didnt like me lol

[cerulean hemlock]

There's a W5 blob? 😛

[tacit tulip]

His name is blobby G

[cerulean hemlock]

Ahh

[haughty ivy]

the card packs were kind

[tacit tulip]

that NM troll is a good one

[glass flax]

yeah I just found it too so apparently I'm now at w7

good enough

[cerulean hemlock]

I remember manually grinding that

[haughty ivy]

also these

[tacit tulip]

you never did kattle cards on old account right?

Kattle cards drop rate is abysmal

[cerulean hemlock]

Only did chaotic and Normal

I did ntroll gold

Ctroll silver

And regular troll to plat I think

[tacit tulip]

4 days and I lose my sick card set 😦

[haughty ivy]

got my vman what now

[cerulean hemlock]

;3 Card packs

[haughty ivy]

where points at?

[tacit tulip]

put your first point into top left skill, and level chess skill in tab 3

you're in for a ride

[mystic moth]

Ain gonna finish before w6 drops

[fathom lagoon]

Doing the penguin pen vial, getting the box statue done at the same time

[cerulean hemlock]

Also, getting vman (w4 achievement) gives a single point as the reward

[haughty ivy]

so i need to talent reset......sigh

i have 6 points

[cerulean hemlock]

Note that Tab4 talent points =/= vman points

[tacit tulip]

basically you earn your Vman talent points through his minigame

[haughty ivy]

oo

[tacit tulip]

every max stage you meet, gives you 30 points

[cerulean hemlock]

"minigame"

[tacit tulip]

I need to redo mine sometime

[noble sable]

Well, think about the negative side, maybe you won't even get the vial on the first day

[cerulean hemlock]

52 portals is to which world..? W3 Penguins?

[haughty ivy]

bruh 1.5k

[noble sable]

World 137

[tacit tulip]

I don't remember genuinely. I only did speedruns the week vman came out

[cerulean hemlock]

;3

I did them everyday 😮‍💨

[haughty ivy]

should i respec entire vman talent tree or just roll with it

[tacit tulip]

I can prolly get past 60 now though

[tall horizon]

psha, everyone is gonna dump gold watches day 1 lol

[cerulean hemlock]

My thesis was, "If you can git gud, then you must git gudder"

[haughty ivy]

i feel like this speedrun stuff is bound to have a long cd

[cerulean hemlock]

One day ish

[tacit tulip]

daily

[haughty ivy]

ye so 1st speedrun

[tall horizon]

people who have been hoarding will likely have all vials very quickly lol

[cerulean hemlock]

Mana PO box will remove the "daily" aspect by a bit

[haughty ivy]

what talents

[tacit tulip]

the first 3 are the talents that buff speedruns themselves

[cerulean hemlock]

You want a "Speedrun" preset and a "Enhancer" preset

[tacit tulip]

left is more time, mid is a big aoe that gives you MK, and right is respawn speed for killing bosses

[cerulean hemlock]

I suggest more time and aoe early on

[haughty ivy]

where can i find said builds for these

[noble sable]

That would be a huge waste

[cerulean hemlock]

#1183482341474172938 Should be in my guide

[tacit tulip]

I mean we'll do the other stuff too - atoms and such

the vials are a side bonus

[noble sable]

True.....

[tacit tulip]

the real goal is to 90% bubbles to lvl5 so NBLB hits it

[cerulean hemlock]

Either in Websites ,Buildsor Peanuts for general vman advice

[glacial venture]

there are a lot of effects influenced by goldwatches

[tall horizon]

kind of the point of hoarding them, what else are you gonna use them for?

[cerulean hemlock]

Flexing 😏

[noble sable]

Not sure yet

[proud pumice]

hoarding too

[cerulean hemlock]

It's always fun to show a #newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳ noob ten million kills on gmush per hour

Or a 1B+ sample

[tall horizon]

Day 1 use feels like the best way to get ahead to me 🤷

[glacial venture]

even tho lava said not to farm the fishes...i still did it^^

[haughty ivy]

imma need a whole build, will it be there on idleon toolbox

[tacit tulip]

I didn't have a cauli sample

[static basin]

I’m really hoping there’s an early bit bonus in w6 cos it’ll feel bad using stopwatches without 30 boron

[cerulean hemlock]

I think Day 2 would be best, that way you won't yolo everything

[tall horizon]

stupid superbit

[glacial venture]

maybe you right...day one to reach maps and get different mats for vials

[noble sable]

This too. I don't have a reason to use it at the beginning of w6

[glacial venture]

then go hard on vials on day 2

[cerulean hemlock]

Yeah, I think Day 2 would be best

[latent dock]

what is the best class to kill kruk under 30 sec?

[tall horizon]

Guess its hard to say for sure until we see w6.

[cerulean hemlock]

ES

[tall horizon]

Im still leaning towards day 1 personally.

[cerulean hemlock]

I'm comparing it to W5 learning stuff

[tacit tulip]

outside of oneshots thinking bubo kills fastest due to auea

[noble sable]

Vman fs

[haughty ivy]

what should i max

[static basin]

Yeah the day 1 excitement will take over

[tall horizon]

watches wont effect w6 skills or anything, just old world mechanics.

[cerulean hemlock]

I remember people saying chemical was a semi-good plant, and cactus was gigachad on week 1 I think

[glacial venture]

watches will still affect w6 shop

[cerulean hemlock]

Yep! I know ;3

[pastel bramble]

bubbles? stamp discounts?

[cerulean hemlock]

All attack talents

[noble sable]

[rustic garnet]

Is IE down?

[noble sable]

I wasn't here at the time

Ajsisksssj

[proud pumice]

he means the new skills, not the w6 part of old skills

[haughty ivy]

should i put points in more points in tab 2

[pastel bramble]

thank god ive been stockpiling

[tall horizon]

ya... thats fair. I guess we wont likely have atomable bubbles day 1. You convinced me, day 1 use is bad.

[cerulean hemlock]

:P I started the thinking first

I'm taking credit!

[tacit tulip]

My aim is to find bubbles that use late w6 skilling resources (like sailing did) to 90% it into NBLB so it starts levelling on its own

if there's a few bubbles my watches might go towards that

[tall horizon]

fuck bubbles, i want stamps. Gotta get my #1 spot back

[cerulean hemlock]

I'm hoping there will be a single W6 mechanic that's affected by gstopwatches

[tall horizon]

Lava already said there wont be

[sand summit]

Bruh

[cerulean hemlock]

Mechanic, not skill

[tall horizon]

see previous statement

[cerulean hemlock]

Ah 💔

[pastel bramble]

w6 daily shop for greenstacks

[rustic garnet]

If there are any stamps, bubbles, or anything added that is part of a previous world...

[cerulean hemlock]

Oohhhh true

[rustic garnet]

You will get a benefit from saving watches

[tall horizon]

Im lazy and dont want to find the text

[cerulean hemlock]

Yeah I remember reading it, thought it applied only to skills

[tall horizon]

ya shop is likely the only thing in w6 to be effected, but who knows even for that.

[noble sable]

We'll be raiding Lava's house after this

[latent jetty]

How are people candying like 9 pestles an hr? I can only get 6 at my best, are they going full afk rate or full dr?

[noble sable]

[latent jetty]

Pearlers*

[rustic garnet]

Resetting the inventory of shops early on could be nice

[tall horizon]

big afk and dr

[rustic garnet]

pestles?

[tacit tulip]

I'd imagine respawn speed is a big factor too?

[noble sable]

nestle?

[rustic garnet]

what is being idled?

[tall horizon]

I cant recall how much respawn is needed for

[latent jetty]

Ok thanks, maybe I’m overlooking something at the mo

[tall horizon]

it was a smaller map, so probably fairly easy to cap

[cerulean hemlock]

Still a good number of mobs though, if I recall

[coral goblet]

14 shop resets

[cerulean hemlock]

I have none 😉

One of the perks of resetting my account

I get to endure the gruel 😄

[static basin]

Is there a mob respawn cap? I’ve never noticed kph not increase from mob respawn on gmush for example

[tall horizon]

finally gonna get it

[static basin]

Wow mobile sucks

[cerulean hemlock]

We figured that out when IoS released 😉

You're a bit late to the party 😛

[tall horizon]

Not specifically, more that it ties into the other stuff. I could be just crazy, but i recall adding in respawn and not getting more, despite having 1k+ ms and capped as.

who knows if my brain is just telling me lies 🤷

it likes to do that sometimes lol

[autumn hollow]

You've got exactly the same number I do. We'll get it before W6!

[cerulean hemlock]

I'll get my level 2 vial before W7 🥳

[sleek ermine]

So close

[static basin]

My understanding is that there is a base kill cap for every map that you can hit from enough dmg and movespeed, but it is infinitely increased by more mob respawn

[autumn hollow]

I would hope so!

[sleek ermine]

yes

[cerulean hemlock]

Same

[proud pumice]

w7 confirmed for april

[tall horizon]

Yes and no, you cant just always add more respawn. If you dont have enough as/ms to use the respawn, it does nothing.

And smaller maps hit that threshold faster

[cerulean hemlock]

I'd rather W7 be released in 2026 with a bunch of QoL and bug fixes rather than 2025 of March, for example

[tall horizon]

ima go check, see if im just putting my foot in mouth

[static basin]

Mmmm tasty foot

[tall horizon]

now where are my respawn keychains lol

[cerulean hemlock]

+10% MS

[noble sable]

We are closer to the final world than when we were in 2020

[misty spindle]

Can I reduce the cost of atoms somehow? I know theres a superbit in gaming and in merit shop is there anything else

[noble sable]

Think about it

[sleek ermine]

I definitely feel like the amount of bugs is less now compared to middle of world 4

[cerulean hemlock]

Rashaken's Foot:
Sell price: Two Copper Coins
Stats:
+1 all stat
Misc: +10% Movement Speed

Armor Slot: Premium hat

[proud pumice]

yeah the game needs a lot of QoL, specially around using a lot of the same resource (boss keys, pens, ...)

[rustic garnet]

There's a lot of QoL available, like not having to switch Gods daily, available in 2027 or 2028 -- That's when everyone eventually gets Doot from the weekly pity

[cerulean hemlock]

I know right 😮‍💨

[cerulean hemlock]

Indeed

Back when W3 was new this wouldn't be a problem

[static basin]

Bubble and levelling up the atom collider in construction

[autumn hollow]

Upgrading the atom colider (every 10 levels), one of the atom upgrades also gives a reduction in price.

[glacial venture]

over time we got LOTS of QoL

[cerulean hemlock]

But the power creep is huge

[sleek ermine]

One of my most hated things is, using pens suck, and boss loot drops SOOO slow

[cerulean hemlock]

Not enough, let's be honest

[misty spindle]

thanks

[proud pumice]

the best way not to have people using rule 4 is to not need rule 4

[rustic garnet]

We should never have QoL hiding behind 4 year walls though

[static basin]

Oh and levelling neon

[rustic garnet]

Hide something else behind that 4 year wall

[cerulean hemlock]

Plus, there's a bunch of...
non-leaderboard-worthy stuff that could probably be fixed

[cerulean hemlock]

The resurfacing of my old account

[noble sable]

Rashaken's Foot:
Sell price: Two Copper Coins
Stats:
-10 all stat
Misc: -10% Movement Speed

Armor Slot: Passive slot

[rustic garnet]

Yeah, without Doot, you cannot compete with the leaderboards at all

[noble sable]

??? Kkkkkkkk

[cerulean hemlock]

I was mentioning vman portal bad-stuff but ik you got the point

[noble sable]

False

[sleek ermine]

If there was tiers to items/bonuses, doot is probably 5 tiers above the second best bonus

[noble sable]

Looks on contract

[rustic garnet]

Do tell me how you can compete without Doot then, happy to hear

[cerulean hemlock]

There's always the #1 spot for Dungeon Flurbos/Credits

[rustic garnet]

lol

Ok fine, ya got me

you can win at dungeons

[cerulean hemlock]

Well, he's hardstuck midgame, he's reached levels beyond our imagination

[rustic garnet]

Is he on any leaderboard?

[cerulean hemlock]

That'll be my goal 🫡

[static basin]

Look up weebgasm on the leaderboards

[fallen torrent]

449T/800T almost there!

[cerulean hemlock]

@signal osprey We're all complimenting you right now, come and compliment yourself

[noble sable]

I'll be next is on lb, mobile player and dootless

Hear me

Out

[cerulean hemlock]

Next up is me? 😉
Web Player, F2p, Dootless

[tall horizon]

Ok ya, im right. We're just not likely ever going to be at that point. So long as you get enough dmg/ms/as you can always use more respawn.
Back in ye olden days, we couldn't get enough dmg/ms to benefit from more ms. Bubble candy/hourly clicks kind of made it irrelevant.

[cerulean hemlock]

Wish I could actually get coinflip

[rustic garnet]

my IE isn't loading

[tall horizon]

So im just mixing up time periods, but still technically right, all i care about

[cerulean hemlock]

Ban! Leaked vital info

[signal osprey]

[noble sable]

Use it so

IT

[cerulean hemlock]

You're a champ

[sleek ermine]

Good point I forgot

[proud pumice]

you can get the same samples without doot as someone with doot would, its just that it requires more effort and preparation for you to get the right gods

[cerulean hemlock]

Careful buddy

You're lucky Rashaken skimmed over your message! 😄

[sleek ermine]

I got warned by lava world 4 release for a joke gotta be careful

[static basin]

So mob respawn cap is just the characters capability to actually make use of that mob respawn, there isn’t actually a cap?

[tall horizon]

yes

[glossy gate]

whats the best class for rift skull thingy like where u have to get 5k points

[cerulean hemlock]

ES imo

[static basin]

Okie good to double check

[cerulean hemlock]

I'm probably wrong by a landslide

[tall horizon]

So, irrelevant info to know lol 🤷

[rustic garnet]

You can get the initial sample close to the same, but you are going to be like 18 levels down on all skills

[pastel bramble]

anyone got that nugget upgrade probability calculator handy

[rustic garnet]

You need to set all people to ghoarut for sampling

[cerulean hemlock]

Here, take it

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-gif-15625439

[rustic garnet]

except maybe the main sampler who takes the arctis

[noble sable]

The probability is 50/50

Either you get a new nugget or you don't.

[latent jetty]

So I’ve got max mob respawn keychains, and my afk gain rate and dr as high as I can optimise it and I’m still only at 7 pearlers an hr I am stumped lol

[pastel bramble]

anyone with the actual link?

[rustic garnet]

So you are either 4.5% smaller or 18 skill levels down... And you have a total PITA to do so

[haughty ivy]

got 21 portals on my 1st try, 630 points

now where should they go?

[cerulean hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/he-is-a-legend-mufc-wayne-rooney-football-legendary-gif-17138456

[rustic garnet]

where you will likely just set everyone to Goharut, take samples, and accept the lowered skill levels

[haughty ivy]

no way that is a lot

i am not him

[static basin]

21 on your first ever speed run seems pretty decent

[haughty ivy]

im kinda happy now nicee

anywhays where should they go?

[static basin]

Blood marrow

[tall horizon]

wonder what new rates are gonna be

[rustic garnet]

OH question

https://www.idleonefficiency.com/world-4/cooking

Are these better cooking stats?

Or should I be pushing harder?

I've got all the super chows

[cerulean hemlock]

Gstack ladles? 🥺

[haughty ivy]

got 3 % more cooking speed lmfao

[tall horizon]

seems unlikely tbh, you'd probably always have a need for them lol

[rustic garnet]

(This is with VMAN not set to cook)

[cerulean hemlock]

True

Maybe in W7 though

[tall horizon]

though I do want to see a gstack of them lol

im not doing it though

[cerulean hemlock]

Maybe some psychopath will do it

[static basin]

bone marrow is the biggest boost to cooking you can get

[cerulean hemlock]

Maybe me, maybe someone else

[haughty ivy]

i know have heard of it, its not doing so much now tho

[urban fossil]

Are the sailing artifacts bonuses acount wide?

[tall horizon]

it doesn't start to take off until the 800-1k total lvl range

[nimble yarrow]

i know 501 is first breakpoint for laaarry, but what is the second breakpoint?

[cerulean hemlock]

If max book level jumps up to 275 maybe we'll have a good time

[static basin]

having to rebook everyone all over again

[cerulean hemlock]

120% chance I think, not sure the level

[haughty ivy]

this is what i did, in hindsight should have put 1 point in everything

[gray pagoda]

Why only one?

[tall horizon]

im ready

[sick sentinel]

750 for 105%, 1100 for 110%, 2300 for 115%

[tall horizon]

oh, i need to go do killroy and get more books

[haughty ivy]

doesnt that es bonus work

if i talent reset now, what happens

will i still get 630 or will i need to speedrun it again

[cerulean hemlock]

;3 Arcade balls!

[static basin]

the man is 3/3

[lapis elm]

Unethical luck

[cerulean hemlock]

Wait, isn't 120% the hardcap?

[sick sentinel]

yes

[gray pagoda]

No, ES bonus, arctis, and slug don't work on vman talents except the first one

[cerulean hemlock]

[haughty ivy]

i see

[cerulean hemlock]

When is that achieveable

[gray pagoda]

Actually I think it's first three, could be wrong

[haughty ivy]

yep 1st 3

[sick sentinel]

not rly ever. 119% is like 12k or so tho

[lapis elm]

that's a lot of larry

And a lot of diminishing returns on investment

[fading oracle]

Active SB a Good Idea to try To get the suggma recepie?

[lapis elm]

Hate to say it but active SB is only good for wasting 2 1/2 months on plundrous

[late grotto]

So how many ranks is max?

[lapis elm]

ES is likely best if you have the damage

[cerulean hemlock]

ES is better

Since ES is best at farming rare drops

[fading oracle]

What Portal count would be worth To try?

[proud pumice]

i just left some people afk at suggmas for recipe + deathnote

[cerulean hemlock]

100+

[tall horizon]

lolol, just sneezed when trying to launch an arrow. it went straight up and hit nothing

[cerulean hemlock]

Or would it be 200+? 😛

[cerulean hemlock]

*Technically, the attack talent is called a Ballista 😉

[fading oracle]

Do you have it already on your New file?

[proud pumice]

imo having someone active there is bad because every time you check and you didn't find the recipe you'll get frustrated, afk characters you check less often so its less frustrating

[lapis elm]

I love BM abilities

[cerulean hemlock]

Nah, not on my new account

Atm it's as weak as pudding

[frank harbor]

Is there any specific gaming upgrade I should be prioritizing? Someone told me to just hyperinvest i speed so thats what I’ve been doing but is there a list somewhere of more to least important?

[lapis elm]

W6 will make the panda stronk

[gray pagoda]

Speaking of, are you still on Lampars A6?

[cerulean hemlock]

;3

[cerulean hemlock]

Yep, I'll candy fire spirits

I desynced my accuracy twice somehow, but I'll get to fire spirits before W6 drops

[fading oracle]

You have enough Candy?

[cerulean hemlock]

18 days

[gray pagoda]

Aw man, was really hoping you could make it before release and not have to waste candy. At least you'll be there with us on launch

[cerulean hemlock]

If that's not enough I have 4 days of crystal mobs

[cerulean hemlock]

Yeah, I'll definitely be there on launch

[lapis elm]

A list? Not particularly. I would say unlocking the imports are the most import...ant (I'm sorry). After that, plant cycle speed is indeed very important, but you hit walls after awhile. The base plant value is actually incredibly strong for a large majority of your gaming career and worth investing into alongside it.

[static basin]

my end of w5 ladle stats on bb 1 and 2, can check back to this in a month haha

[lapis elm]

In fact, most of the time before I started chem looping and snail farming, growth cycle was behind the base value. It was just less efficient.

[proud pumice]

hope next draconic comes with w6 for my GT

[tall horizon]

if 5k+ doesnt become normal ill be shocked.

[cerulean hemlock]

I'm quite proud of myself for having the 99% chance to get to W6 on day 1

[tall horizon]

with endgamers pushing towards 6k hopefully

[lapis elm]

[cerulean hemlock]

I don't think Rashaken or Hotair, or anyone expected that honestly XD

[frank harbor]

Cant get mine to even 1k yet, how is this possible?

[static basin]

eff and afk gains

pushed as high as i can

i think 220m eff and 400% afk gains is achievable for me but didnt have enough time or luck with keychains

[lapis elm]

Moar stamps, more stats, more more more

[static basin]

I don't think anyone has reached 4500 yet, but getting into the 4400's has been done by a few ppl

[cerulean hemlock]

Especially with the W6 reducer

of skill req.

[ashen field]

How many points does one need in raise dead to effectively ressurect the all the tremor wurms no matter where your character is?

[cerulean hemlock]

Not sure

I'd reccommend maxing it still, though

[ashen field]

I've got 270 point in it now, do I really need to spend 20 library checkouts to max it to 306?

[rustic garnet]

Why is IE suggesting I buy all the guns?

[teal lynx]

Tremor doesn't take much. 120 is probably overkill for that Map
So you are fine

[cerulean hemlock]

Thanks

[ashen field]

Cheers

[lapis elm]

It's not suggesting, it's just highlighting which ones are limited/important. You can always filter them.

[pastel bramble]

from my personal gaming experience, ive noticed a pattern with nuggets, like 9/10 rolls will give u 0.1% of max roll, 1/10 will give u 1% of max roll, every 1/1000 ull get like a 50-90% roll of current, its such a ball ache

[ashen field]

I guess there's other maps where it might be relevant

[cerulean hemlock]

For other characters probably? For limited/important amounts

[lapis elm]

Also buying food is free atoms

Always buy your shops

[cerulean hemlock]

More than free atoms, it's given towards the needy

[mystic moth]

All like 20 atoms?

[ashen field]

Wouldn't time spent buying food be better utilized elsewhere if its atoms you're chasing

[cerulean hemlock]

Still useful

[lapis elm]

I've done more for less

[cerulean hemlock]

Buying food takes 10 minutes maximum

[lapis elm]

I'm sure sitting here looking at my bubo farming tremors gives a lot of options to "do more"

I can just spend 25 seconds buying the shop

There's no way you guys are arguing it's a waste of time

[cerulean hemlock]

Plus, it's incredibly useful for earlygame

(earlygame atom)

[proud pumice]

you're buying food to turn into atoms, which makes food more scarce, which makes it more expensive, so less people can afford it

[ashen field]

I'd argue its just not worth my time for 20 atoms

[paper nova]

People we must consider the global economics.... ☝️

[teal lynx]

I buy out the shop anyways. So I can spare 3 seconds to buy the food

[lapis elm]

Ya'll will do much more for less

[cerulean hemlock]

;3 What if it's an exchange service?

[proud pumice]

no, you toss it in the atom collider, so you burn it

[mystic moth]

All you have to do is have a 1050 stack of food already which will take what 100 days of shop buys or hybrid with farming... so

[paper nova]

We don't know what Lava is really using the atoms for at the end of the day.. he could be monopolozing everything we send through the atomizer

[cerulean hemlock]

How do you know a li'l blobulyte doesn't live in there?

[paper nova]

Can't burn an atom

[proud pumice]

the gamer blobulyte, never leaves his home

[glad crow]

sounds like a skill issue

[cerulean hemlock]

We can always explode it 😉

(Aka split it)

[cerulean hemlock]

Of course

[paper nova]

Cave man style.. smash 2 atoms together hard enough to hope for a spark....

[cerulean hemlock]

Pfft. BB's an atomic bomb, just look at the combustion

[fair karma]

Hi! Is the lv 266 of orb of remembrance the total maximum (including god levels and family bonus) or the talent level itself?

[cerulean hemlock]

Total Maximum

Unless you're talking about the number to the right

Then that's talent level itself

[fair karma]

Ok, that helps hahahah so 266 on the number on the left

[lapis elm]

If the number to the right is over 245

[fair karma]

Thanks!

[rustic garnet]

I'm trying to understand why they are important for IE to track

[cerulean hemlock]

🤷 IE probably thinks, "You don't have this equipped, and it's useful"

[rustic garnet]

I have level 3+ guns on all people though?

2+

[cerulean hemlock]

🤷

[lapis elm]

IT does the same thing shrugs

[rustic garnet]

Does your IT do the same?

[teal lynx]

Max level of skills is 322 currently
Talent Books go to 245
Orb should stay at 267 or 300+

[lapis elm]

Yes. Always.

It's just a blanket thing. That's why you can filter it.

[cerulean hemlock]

I think it's because a lot of people ask, "How to get my other char's stats up fast?" Many forget about the splicer

[rustic garnet]

Sure, but it keeps getting unfiltered

so it's just annoying that I have to re-apply the filter

[lapis elm]

Probably cookies If you throw yourself into the LB often it does that, as well.

[rustic garnet]

LB?

[lapis elm]

Leaderboards

[rustic garnet]

ah

[cerulean hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/cookie-monster-girlscout-cookies-girl-scout-gif-13360660

[paper nova]

.>

[cerulean hemlock]

:3

[rustic garnet]

Fine, I guess I will get my splicers up on all my chars

I am bbeing lazy on a few tool upgrades too

Look at this slack

shameful

[proud pumice]

everyone knows w2 splicer is the goat

[sick sentinel]

the nuttsack buff

[fallen torrent]

1M for beholder statue and we good

[mystic moth]

Finally got a kruk wing drop on my BM. Only took 20k keys

[tacit tulip]

sometimes it do be like that

[rustic garnet]

question... if I take off my traps from my chars, does anything negative happen?

[mystic moth]

Just got 3 easy ones left, 1 DK and 2 ES

[rustic garnet]

I want to upgrade everyone