#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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6 more days 
yeah the kill/trophy runs are allowed to be posted here the thread was just closed for reasons™
@fast grail Can I have a picture of your FMJ please? 🥺
is there a max drop rate guide ?
Maybe, I don't know where it is though, unfortunately
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do artefacts get progressively more OP the further on the map they are? Or are they all more or less as powerful as the first few ones?
Yes, because Multikill doesn't count towards it, so every multikill % neds to be factored out
Yep, multikill only increases the base mob materials - it doesn't impact rare drops. Rares are a factor of base kills, and figuring it out exactly is a pain in the ass
don't think I'll be done with moles before w6 comes out so this is my life now
Gonna get king doot today!
you got hp prayer on sakori
yeah
doing card+SB plunder stacks together
so midas only speeds up my process - more cards
Why have I never done PO6 on mobile before 
I think some people use that steam thing to stream their pc to a tablet and do it that way, too
This actually isn’t causing wrist pain 30 seconds into it
Yeah, that’s what I’m doing
Noob, I use a touchscreen PC ;3
only problem with doing it on a phone is you go too fast and skip colo tickets 😄
Vile 
I myself am cooking them with bubo and sb is getting kills afk
It's what i do best
i use psychic powers
Burn it
I use procrastination
Got molti RIP
can somebody explain this to me? it doesnt fit at all, while for example afk kills are exact
and could we maybe keep this channel somewhat related to w5 questions or at the very fucking least related to idleon?
its even a rule in the pins
It's that many ladles per day not per hour
This will probably help
yes i know but 39 in 2 hours amounts to something like 400 a day, not 200 a day. very roughly rounded.
hmm, one second.
post office ( the cooking one ) you have a chance to *2
Sometimes it varies
Iike you should have gotten 19.6 ladles here. You rolled the double ladles from cooking PO box
Lava math
Ooh, that'd be possible
aaah thank you i just skilled it earlier today
Does anyone knows why my game always crashes when i try to get the first quest from the Tired Mole?😅
Is it specificly, click npc game crashes? That's bizare

Are you on ios?
greetings
If you're running on steam I'd probably check game files, for mobile I'm not sure
Nope Android
Mobile is wayyy too buggy
It's text overflow, something related to that
Always in this Dialog
Nvm the Text that comes after
I get the first Part just fine then click on it to continue and the Dialog stops halfway and my game crashes
try to change to english
yeah absolutely try english
i read somewhere that language sometimes does that
MS eu was a buggy piece of crap in the other languages, it can absolutely break the game
Oh i'll try that
do that fix and foxy
If that doesn't work
Your options are:
- Report it in the bug thread (do this regardless of 2/3)
- Load game, walk over and immediately spam the npc to try and trigger the quest before it crashes
- Grab any PC and load the game in the browser version of the game and see if you can clear the quest there
That worked thanks 
good to know
Ok yeah definitely report it. Gj spotting that one ketten
even when i got the option to play in german i mostly play in english
makes asking questions about skills easier too^^
Just confused me because i already started the quest on some Characters a few weeks ago 😅😂
Maybe 🤷 never had that issue previously
Fire Spirits in 6 days
for 10m bullets?
@paper sail Do you think this would be enough?
come out baba....
One down..... many more to go
For just hitting firespirits before W6 drops 
now 1t them
I can candy it as always

;3 Gotta do it for the cash%
You'd have to pay me lmao
why is your giant chance still so high?
I need that for Chizoar daily key quest

Also, no active, remember?
the bits artifact boosted me up so much now im getting about 1 green bit every t2 evo 

Back when we were testing fantasy theme park before it released on MS, my wife and I had the game running in english on one game and german on the other.
For every single quest, the monsters wouldn't drop the quest items when the game was set to german. Devs would only fix the ones we report (rather than check them all) so we had to do the entire quest line and report each and every individual quest to get it fixed in time for launch 😭
Thankfully, the other 4 languages worked...
Wow, you were very dedicated beta testers
God I hate cloudsave. I really wish this game worked on iOS smoothly. Got like 8 printer go brrr procs, maxed out 2 vials because of it, and it didn’t save. So I had to re use the ability and only got 2 procs… so no maxed vials yet. Not to mention much less atoms.
We put a lot of love into EMS before it shut down 😦
i can finally get the 300% meal speed bonus from msa and i'll reach about 30 bil 
german is a hard language...seemingly for games too^^
I still don't know why it didn't work in german either
In my opinion Arabic is the hardest language in the world
EMS?
Items drop based on an internalised item ID rather than the name - the name being localised shouldn't have made any difference
Europe maple story
Ohhhhh
~~Probably because I'm fluent in Chinese, people tend to think Chinese is a bunch of drawings
~~
is it not 
isnt the symbol for noisy just 3 times the symbol for woman?
Im fluent in gibberish
Chinese people thought caligraphy was cool so they made their language that
wait w6 is in 7 days!!!?
😅 No
time flew by
6
6 now
Shhh 16-10=6, not 7
oh yea 6 mb :p
Still 7 for me, its friday
Guess my kills per hour on lampars
uhh 10k
4
i was close :p
10k and 11k is a huge difference
"Just" 10%
whats the difference you wont be reaching w6 on launch either way right 
Had a friend show me traditional vs modern Chinese characters, just seemed like a pain to learn
Then i get hit with "Yeah, learning like 15,000+ characters out of the 60,000 or so would classify you as an academic" Im fine sucking at English, thank you very much
Hopefully it's enough
if they're up to fire spirits by the time w6 comes out they can candy the last portal
😅Tranditional is better
I will.
true i think i will barely miss w6 by few hours
exactly when it launches :3?
Of course not >;3 But within the day of release/stream, of course
nvm i'll make w6 by a few mins beforehand
gl :p
im pushing with bubo so its taking a while
No need, it's a guarantee
anyone remember at what US time lava usually released worlds?
EST time was 2pm
It really can vary, especially as he'll be dealing with andoird/iOS approval
east or westcoast time?
EST
a lot of catching up to do after you reach w6 eh
so i should be at home and done with my work by then i guess
It'll be in the evening for me, so it'll either before before I go to bed, or after
No real need to worry about it tho
Is vman speedrun gonna unlock every map when w6 released?
I will probably be passed out cold when it drops
should do furthest map you've unlocked
Gotta tryhard 60 hours straight after release
Bubo gonna be the best pusher right?
For end gamers
is there a vman bug or something where if you unlock portals during speedruns it unlocks em outside of the speedrun too?
Archers might push faster as afk tho, for end gamers that is with around 400% afk gain
is there any knd of "optimal" squirrel upgrade strategy for bits
after a speedrun you get to the furthest portal that ANY ofyour chars opened
vman loses all his kills as part of the speedrun process. Once the run is done, it gives him 2 milliojn kills in all maps you have unlocked on other chars
So, vman can unlock maps he didn't have before by leeching off another char
or any strategy for bits upgrades, I feel like I'm picking things at randome sometimes
Personally i like to balance both of them
Thats the way to go
as trade off vman loses dn kills above 2m he ever did
Not that it boost that much imo, just gotta need luck with nuggets
so if im on fire spirits and it needs 3 mil kills i need 2 speedruns and ill unlock moles?
it'd give you the 3 mil in that case
it's 2 mil, or higher if the portal requires it
seems pretty good specially cos of the extra multikill and respawn during speedruns
like so
just remember....dont try to push dn on vman^^
So the plan for a lot of us is:
- Use bubo to push through w6
- Once we have the new skilling nodes unlocked (likely 2x logs/bugs), speed run on vman to unlock those maps
- Send vman to go skilling/get cards
Do it for the double content 
well for me the first step to a good bubo is done now for the other steps
w6 will be my world fr 
yeah you've done really well since getting to w5 - you've listened to advice and your account has gotten stronger 🙂
you'll likely find w6 world content is gonna be a bit rough for you at first, but working on the new skills (and the old ones) will almost certainly get you stronger
now that most of the annoying sailing has been dealt with progress is pretty fast ^^
I was more or less in a similar position as you last year. I reached the last map of w4 about a week before w5 came out
yay gor rank 2, and also spawned on 100% chance. Might just save up slowly for 3 in that case...
0 Sample new ores before pushing
0.1. Do new pet areas for new foods to boost new skills
0.2 set up new skills.
yeah it was more just in the context of handling vman
Ok sorry :)
🥳
he'll likely just go sit his butt at godshard ore while sorting the good stuff out
Just wanted to give my thought on what i am gonna be doing
A few billion damage's worth
This is pretty bad right? Is there an "optimal" captain loadout?
my dmg is just not going up anymoew :p
Speed%
Skill issue
Early game speed is strong
Mid game, a healthy mix of speed/loot is good
Late game, pure loot is the idea
speed becomes useless later on

but very lategame
First green cap I see and it's cloud rate xd
I didnt even know they exist
very soon i'll be at 20 times your damage 
What's your damage?
140 mil 
You'll need 400mil
my bubo just needs more investing thats it 
For 20x my current damage
already 10 mil more
Expected
i finally crafted up an excuse
denied.
It's bad rolls too lmao
any pointers to which team I should use for this, and what pet power I should have?
🤓 an es normally has higher dmg figures than bubo
this is a known fact and bubo cant normally surpass es in terms of pure numbers if they both have the same amount of investment
peapod looter refiller borger
I think, been a while
hey i unlocked badumdum
aight, I'll give it a try
Incorrect. Bubo can usually surpass ES lategame
If you're using bubo as your main to push W5 atm you've done something wrong >;3
i wanna reach wurms
iirc you can leave a gap between the refiller and borger to stop the bouncing axes hitting your backline
is it still recommended to use Mantra for Divinity? It looks like it only gives exp
Not really anymore
Nope
better to get the points and worry about exp later
Points > EXP
More Points = More divinities
Additionally, mantra doesn't share the 2x exp from biggie hours card, which often results in it being worse than the non-sharing exp options
Gotcha
More Divinities = More divinity gain%
Also, Mantra doesn't scale
Great points, thanks! brb lol
Mantra scales, just not the 2x afk chance
If it was
1 player --> 1 exp
2 players --> 3exp
3 players---> 5exp it'd be better
Gear looks fine
My guess is no, but good luck 🤷
I'd suggest unlocking vials and boosting the alchemy
The 2nd page, 5th bubble boosts AFK gain% (Purple Cauldron)
Ok
Thanks, I think I can probably reach 25 Million if I get Chizoar Blankie
I might have to spend time just getting wooden traps on froges for the damage% buff
Wait which bubble?
I didn't claim the free (one time use) 4% damage weekly buff
The one that requires veiny logs
Boosts AFK gain%
I like that it's in dark mode now
;3 Flashbang is better
from where is this
I'll make gif of it that swaps between the two
Just for you
❤️
ahh thx
Scoli, the creator, is a champ. Give him a compliment if you like the bot! 
World 2 Divine Knight Collosseum I suppose?
I took a break for a bit over a month and I still hate gaming .
We all do 
I love that the candy calc is the most shared part of that tool lol
where is my fucking 100m+?
There you go chief 
I made it to shame myself when I realized I had 20k hours
so how does one actually unlock neew plant spicies in log book of gaming?
Scoli you did a really great job with creating it
i see that sometimes i can find another upgraded version of one i already have
its pretty nice
what is this based on
I can't favorite it 
multikill ONLY buffs the very first item in the upper left in the base drop table and does not affect any other drops like cards or other items from drop table, correct?
oh damn the greenstack informations are insane
ah yeah it's uploaded from my PC isn't it
I even made sure not to fix how offset they are from each other (like 15 pixel vector to the top right) just to super tilt people 
Probably a not important question, but what makes the minimum sailing time go down? Used to be 120 mins for me, now it's 111. Insignificant but still interesting

SB Family bonus and a Vial
whenever the garden cycles there's a chance an existing plant will upgrade to a new tier of plant. The base chance is shown in the mutation section of gaming
Each tier has a lower chance of being found than the last. You start off with 4 tiers available, current max is tier 7 of every plant
Needs more flashing, really need that "giving me seizure" feeling
Seizure is fun 
Check, never checked the fam bonus lol
I'm one of those people who actually get seizures so you do it 
so it would be good to leave lvled plants in the gaming garden for a chance to upgrade it? @tacit tulip
strongly depends on what tier and what your grow cycle speed is
it can be yeah, unlocking new tiers also gives you a bit% modifier
Essentially, yes
Since you get more bit% gain
But usually up to Tier Five/Six is when you Stop
my cycle is about 2 hr right now
I am at 55/72 xD
For now it's fine 
Me doing T4 cause T5 never happens
In my own opinion, I'd probably harvest every chance I get to unlock all the plants as fast as I can
I only wait for T5 chems
I have one T7 plant and thats my chemical who is laying around in my gaming for almost 3 months now
I wait for things to enter my "garden of no return" section (top right) and just leave them there forever to farm T7s 
The one you have 3 of. Right after cactus
To the right of cactus
You can also go to "mutation" and click on them to see their name and what they do 
I was about to say, wait, no, that's not Blossom, that's Blossom
If you're ever curious
Anyways I'll get back to work 💪 See you guys in the near future
thx : )
Weekend working 
I'm working on it
whats the minimum dps for kattle?
hmm this thing is wrong I already maxed that long ago
depends on the class. For bubo, DK, and ES you just need your aoe to kill the moles
for the other classes it's a bit more complex
aint no way i main blood b
I'll advise you now - rethink doing that for the future
Use raw data or update IE and wait 30ish minutes
right I wasn't in IE for over a month... xD
You can just copy and paste the raw data if you don’t wanna wait 
fucking hell
in w2/3 BB is a pretty strong option. From w4 onwards, it's the worst class to play actively
atleast im almost there on my dk
guys, what's the best way to drop a lucky lad on maestro?
Dreadlo ore
Try to have 100% hit chance (lower ore if not)
afk%
Skilling speed
drop rate
candy
aight tyvm
it's still RNG, but the more you have of those stats the easier it is
boooo new nug
I've unlocked all recipes on the first page, yay
also this?
finally grabbed this bad boy, i have 2 random event items which is gonna give me a whopping 1% afk gains
but that 1% afk pushed me from 4,299 to 4,310 :D
Where was the end game TD guide located?
i got 2 lads in 7 24 hour candies with like 11 DR and the crafted food and like 4* mining speed cards for some useful data
isn't this the book where you have 1% chance to get it?
no its just 200 bottles
1% is shimmer
damn
I wish I had your shimmer trial luck
I always get trash ones like fishing eff
i think ive had 2 or 3 40's
I get fishing so much 
Why, oh why did I decide to ruby kattle...
whats the problem?
What's best set up for citric conflict TD
save for w6
Need wave 121+ and I'm 110
the wrist pain is XD
wrist?
yes
sry I am just to dumb to understand it
I've been at it for over an hour and I am not even 10% done
ahhh
and my wrist already hurts XD
doing this for gems as well for w6 prep
right I should burn my keys too
need still pendants for all my characters especially with w6 coming
but then I think do I really want to burn trough this?
same... I have like 2 or 3
I am at 2 and got 6 wings...
by my calculations I'll need to burn about 2.5k of mine to get ruby
hf xD
TT_TT
why did I take a break of idleon else I would be done with this >.<
wanna trade half your ladles for it ?
SURE!
XD
I am at 21 myself
I am just too lazy to active on SB
one with 8% and the other one with 8% and 5%
I am using these atm XD
xD
the other one is 3% + 10%
yeah i missed those…
no
also, you can burn through 7k keys so fast. so don’t worry about that! just make sure to get capes
just kinda stink when i need to grind 20k more keys to get a few more pendants lol
wdym fast... I 've been doing 300 keys for over an hour XD
oh wow 😮
I will do nightmare again when I am bored and want to drop wings on the other chars
but for now I do normal for gems and pendant
oof 😅 yeah i just did nightmare for the wings grind too
progress so far
why can’t i just buy keys with green gems
do mine while ur busy too please 😄
I have 10k myself...
u can still do mine for me 😂
hell nah
ok but you're paying for my arm treatment XD
wtf 😳
cursed... sooooo cursed
i don’t do enough gaming i guess
How does one accquire this level of cooking
I aint even at 2k nugs yet
nah nah wait for some new dishes first
ladle stamp needs to be high high
I have one or 2 dishes maxed
I could have probably half maxed when I wouldn't be so lazy
Understood, time to dump all my coin and items into it
yeah i have a couple maxed too 🙂
idk, getting half maxed would be a lot more than you think
all cooking eff affects it too
when my 100m+ nugget? ._.
my first 100m was at around 22k rolls 😂
Couple hundred thousand more rolls and 100m is guaranteed 
I am at 14.5m rn my last increase was 700k higher....
players are pushing this golden nugget shenanigans too hard
Stop sir 
Just wait until w6
ik that I need a 100m nugget and snail 23 to be able to get the last super bit upgrade
The current endgame requires a very large nugget to max out superbit. Oooor hop on the copium train for W6 buffs
I just wanna get out of the Snail 10 hell hole
Surely we get another juicy import to spike our bits by multiple factors of 10
yeah seriously, gonna need to wait for that new tab to open lol
You'll still need a modest nugget and decent snail likely
Even with a pretty sizable buff
another arcade joystick 🕹️
the hopes are snail gets buffed to allow upgrading it to be more consistent
Wait, isnt that an atoms thing tho?
Sodium upgrading to lvl 150 suggests we'll at least get something changed with snail at some point
not. until. 1bn.!
Remember 7 more days
yeah, but that atom goes up to snail level 150, which isn't possible to go past 25 atm
oh okay
considering how incredibly bogus it gets past 20, something has to change 
And there's also uhh a lot of imports left
thing is it might not be w6, it might be 7/8, or even something like equinox/rift
But not a lot of superbits
theres no reason for him to change it yet since we have no need for it until something new unlocks 😄
yeah for sure

even with the atom it's still super frustrating to get snail up
yeah my point exactly. We can already technically hit all the buffs now, but we still have a bunch of imports left
yall gonna have to join me on the nugget grind and suffer as i suffer 
So something is gonna change it up
like it took me 4 months to get from 10 snail to 15 snail. 20 feels like an impossibility based on that
i need more cooking speed its not enough 
it's never enough
i got addicted to seeing my meal speed jump
so I have 2 months left in the jail ig
assuming you're no less unlucky than me
Time to reset 
If you ever find yourself low on resources, you can end a day by leaving a fresh order up, and removing the shield.
Next in game day the costs will reset
I got to 14 once, and ever since it dropped me back to 10 I've been in the 10-12 range
Unlocking Chem took me 8 months, so stay determined!
I mean im printing a Mil of each early game resouce minimum so, im fine for now
8 months 
I have the bars too lol
just keep the bars on another char
I have some slots just smelting unlimited copper and iron
had a 50k ish nug for about 6 months as well
before equinox pulled me out of that hellhole
do equinox
iam
your nugget will increase
equinox is your one and only saviour
u have chem ?
Nope
chem chains*
Cant get that either
before chem it kinda sucks
you min maxed for five months like me?!!!
Im stuck in the <1% hell hole grind for chem
no need to wait, just bruteforce research for chem and then its just about grinding for nugs
nah not really, but I did click whenever I remembered
On TD, is it a pretty big step to break into the 120's from the 110's?
every 30 are the hard waves, so yeah
yup
130 is easier than 120
Dang it. Thanks.
ngl I am kinda at a loss when it's a matter of when I should redo mine
yeah, the game kinda goes in a cycle
you can try getting it to 150 for Goblin
quick question, best bait and line for sampling fishing
it's 30 unique waves then the next 30 are, basically, harder versions of the last 30
but the first 10 of each set of 30 is really easy, so the 10 waves after the 30 are generally easier
what class is best for going for ruby boop card?
Either Vman or SB. Vman has higher card chance, but SB might spawn plunder mobs which have higher drop rates
#1183482341474172938 I think I have it in either the Printing or Fishing section
shameless plug
;3 *Shamless redirection to two year's worth of my weekends
XD
bless your soul
I don't think it was worth it
Time to print 150k sharks an hour.
tbf I hadn't started dating yet so it's fine
I need to update it soon
id say focus on w6 launch and enjoy that for the first month 
Oh yeah definitely
meh just wait for w6
There's like 50 typos in there 
once every char is hardstuck on time gated skills ull have all the time to update it all 
44 pages ---> Dictionary
should I make chizoar armor for my pusher, or just go from void-> lustre-> diabolical at some point?
Or just a 300 page guide, that'd be fine
void-->chizoar if you need it
also, good for slab
void-->lustre-->troll is fine
What pet level should I be aiming for to do the 4 pet 115 arena set up? A normal strong pet for me is about 25k, with the best pet I have seen being 44k; but the guide shows 50-100k pets. Do I have to get all the way up to 100k pet level?
Hmm.. You can try it with 55k
Might be slightly RNG dependent though!
to be fair, u do need the lust boots tho... quite a bit of them
I did it with 23k, there is luck involved.
Also, @foggy eagle I think you can try moving the pet positions
4 i think
maybe move it to the far back so shield has more time?
Other than that making the full set is not worth it
the lab and cooking ones as well
What, so Looter, blank, blank, refiller, pea, burger?
"Full set not worth it"
ig
got a 69k borger pet
just get 60 boots XD
If you want! I'd try testing a different position every time, see what works best
Hello @prisma vigil!
Class Level 1k is shiny 
looter blank peapod refiller blank borger
you definitely want a blank behind the borger so the bouncing axes don't hit your refiller
WE CAN GO FAST
Midas
😎
Think I'll end it here for now
Midas is good for all situations aside from W2 colo 😉
Is the rule that anything in a bag should be Midas?

why w2 colo?
Since the resource nodes will last a LOT longer.
Just beat my 6 pet monolithic PB of 125 that took like 500 years. Might as well let it run out
youre not using the dk talent?
Why your higher level but lower build rate than me
I'm using the DK skill set, this is a rushed 66 day account, remember
makes sense
bro is counting days XD
I need to, for my guide
I have my own channel and everything
is badumdum not a good pet modifier?
It's good but the lag...
with literally 1 refiller my badumdum is procced basically every second so i get it
you make me want to restart my account aswell lol
anyone know how he equipped 2 non-premium helmets?
maybe i need t make more out of the pocket pet arena setups
a crit build with badumdum and sniper sounds fun
Why? XD
premiumifier
what happened to the weekly boss 5 skull thread? Can't seem to find it
oh, you used a hat premiumfier
the thread has been closed
oh I didn't know you could do that
For the moment it's closed, due to a gltich involving red pandas,google, and a zoo
what?
1 because i want doot, 2 because it seems fun
damn
anyone have the moves for this week?
|| It was closed for only a week, due to the violation of #server-rules rule 4||
It's a free for all, no one can share
🤣 I didn't roll for Doot
Exactly
wtf, how is sharing the attack moves cheating...........
Because it's the attack moves that involve the cheat.

That's all I'll say about it
oh i know about it
all my trophy needs are satisfied 
How does this work?
My daily procc just kicked in
None of my plates upgraded
the kitchen TABLES, not the meals
Damn, resampling is the most paranoid activity ever. You ALWAYS know that you forgot something
its not plates 
Its kitchen upgrades, like speed and luck
That's trash
i mean, its 30% cabbage
not really once you get to where it starts to cost a ton its useful also its perfect with the green jewel that boosts meal speed based on levels
it'll help since cabbage
this feels incredibly stupid to do
im struggling to ge this jewel
hopefully i can reach 10 bil speed with it
I'm so darned slow because of star signs 
only kattle boots and helm for bubo right?
iirc, yes
If you need the drop rate
is full troll for bubo worth it 🤔
4.5k bullseye statues left for last onyx... by far the most annoying statue until now
or just shoes and leggings or something
If it's the best you can do ¯_(ツ)_/¯
wdym by that
I use 3 speed pots golden damage % and stats% as well as high healing foods
ig i'll do it anvil tab 5 is still far away from my grasp
200 speed easy
yeah, I mean, this is the rushing account 💪
?do you need the drop rate?
Survivability is crucial
i always want rop reit🤤
i really need more dmg my poison still doesnt do anything
good early on when you're a noob :p
es skills have such good scaling i dont feel any need to swap him out of his chopping set
hopefully he can hit 200 mil rq so i can start bullying A^6 again 
How does my es have more accuracy, defence and health but less damage
Because... Starsigns maybe :3
lower level?
I've forgotten about start signs
Prayers?
A^6 doesnt have any dmg prayers afaik
But I have a accuracy prayer which does lower my damage
aint no way you have that shitty w2 prayer 

This prayer is crucial if you are pushing too fast to keep up the accuracy
the cards normally are enough
I used the accuracy prayer to rush w3-5 on my recent baby account. Before you reach multikill damage it's actually quite good cause attack talents boost you to kill cap even with shitty damage
No they are not
And you will lose more damage and progress using cards instead of this
which class is best for soloing w2 and w3 dungeons for equinox?
it has such a niche usage tho from what i see about 70% its just harmful
It's niche, but it's very good when you need it
This prayer is fine up to w5. At the end of w4 your accuracy starts to catch up to mobs and overwhelms them
Yeh by the time you get your bubo buboable, that prayer falls of real fast
do w5 mobs scale pretty hard with accuracy i've never really paid attention to it since after a certain amount of levels vman's boost to the base talents is normally enough
Eh, bubo starts buboing much later i guess
No, actually its pretty linear, so w5 mobs do not require much accuracy. Its the worst at the end of w3 and at start of w4.
In w3 you can literally suffer intensely at the later mobs if you dont specificly focus accuracy from all sources
hey, he tried to make a wrapper rapper joke 😮💨 Good job Lava 
I didn't mean 200 tentacleye tier bubo, but the bare minimal to afford pushing bubbles, of course
w4 had accuracy issues, but by time you get to world 5 and have samples that can actually level bubble 1s to like 150, accuracy is no longer an issue...thats what i found anyways in my progression
yea but the player i was talking to is mid w5 (i believe) so i thought he was just losing free kph
Well honestly i felt that before like at least 160-200 there's not much reason to even use it. You require active ES to gather all other stuff and you hard locked with resources not liquid.
That doesn't look like a giant 
accuracy hits really hard mid w4-ish but w5 solves it really fast
You see the light 
What w5 enemy is kruks spawn thing at
@cyan mantle are you around mid w5 or starting w5
Oranges
moles which is after fire spirits so about 2 maps later
how mcuh accuracy d you have without the prayer?
3 more maps to go
Yeah depends on account progression a lot. I mainly meant fmj+shaq with hard focus on farming mats to them just to get to w5 asap on one character.
Edit: I didn't personally even reach those bubbles before some early buboing
38.3k so 700 less than what I need
Up until fire spirits
do you have vman,shaquaracy investment and have the base stat bubbles and talents levelled up?
It isn't spawning
Shaquarchy and base bubbles yes but vman I don't have unlocked
My maestro is 3 lvls away from starting the questline
Well shaq is extremely directly locked by the size of your bloaches sample, because it sucks, and you need bloaches for gear and bags and quite a lot of stuff.
So this bubble is a bait. You can completely move around it using the accuracy prayer not even touching it. This bubble honestly is pretty useless all in all.
thats really weird i've not really seen this before
Well I gtg its 4 in the morning and I wanna sleep
night
how to get more more carry capacity (except gem shop and stamps)?
Gn
I imagine you didnt put anything into your secondary stat. And probably dont have accuracy from statues and flurbo dungeon.
Statues 0 but flurbo dungeon alot
probably the case my archer had about 300k without any points in the talent and i just found that out so was losing a ton on ovac
Statues not attempting until I get chocolate chip
Which isn't gonna happen this rotation so I'm gonna have to grind statues with out it actually
Only if you wait for bloach samples instead of just farming them with mman/bb. Shouldn't take more than a couple of days of hard focus to get enough accuracy to push to w5 with shaq+prayer.
which class has the highest accuracy (excluding mman) for you rn
Uh bm I think
Wut? 
You suggest to literally manually leave BB to fish bloaches?
To get accuracy of all things?
that'll take years 
No I'm pushing with es
If you want to get to w5 as fast as possible
bubo deserves with kitchen banishment
the cards also help gives like 60-70% with sandcastles and neyeptune platinum'd
Or just use both..? Then you don't need to farm stuff for equipment upgrades all the time..?
I'm grinding wood mushrooms atm to increase the bonus
Yes, but you need to farm the cards to level them and it might take a bit of time.
wood mushroom??
Yes
dont they give like luck or something
Equipment honestly does almost nothing other than give defence, and if you push automated food pipline you dont need to worry about defence anymore
No
also dont farm them they're pretty bad in terms of afk farming em
No wood shrooms also give accuracy
if you need a good accuracy card sandcasltes is good and neyeptue is pretty good as you will need its drops for refinery and black eyes for crafting
But i mean, slap this bad boy and you are set.
You can cover any ammount of accuracy, just level up it further if you need to.
ah i never really farmed them cos of their low density
Yeh most of my guys were still on amarok when I got them to wurms. Real inefficient at that point, but with good alchemy progression there's no need to ever stop pushing to upgrade equipment. Just get new set when you can afford 👍
amarok till w6 end or bust
is there a way to increse carry capacity other than stamps and gems
Talking about my rushed baby account of course. This one sat on lab for half an year before I came back to go to w5
Why void? No % miscs at all
Well yeah in all seriousness the most usefull effect of gear is stats and its not a lot of stats
magma + opals is a lot of stats
Troll gear's where it really gets useful, and if someone has that before getting to w5 they're playing a different game than I
Amarok's plenty fine until you get bubo going in some capacity and by then alch will hard carry you if you optimise the resource gathering a bit
Yeh refinery is another bottleneck for gear so other ways to get extra stats get bit more important
Carry bags
i have biggest ones
Gems 
Prayers? Starsign?
Most likely what is missing is gem expansion, its pretty cheap
Jman talent?
is crytsal custard additive or multiplicative to DR and EXP?
😛
Disc behaving weird again
Arcade
I'd do jewels first. No leaks on how op the w6 gemshop stuff is yet
Unless you're only missing like 1-2 bad jewels
hmm k ty both of ya
You're still da ram
Refinery if you want to push that or breeding eggs, if both those are feeling fine, I would do arcade balls for the rest of time.
At least one thing from W6 gem shop should be good
I'm probs having an old person moment here.
You need to press the tie first
hey, what do i do? there is a lot of werind to first character this week. i believe i can do all 5 for exunox maybe
We cant comment on it, its against the rules
ooooooooooof course
Umm, we can't reccommend anything, since rules
But give it a go 💪
i failed
Aaaaaah now it worked. What a weird mechanic. I tried the tie but nothing happened, so I deactivated it. Now I pressed tie, then double clicked soul and it worksed immediately
Better luck tomorrow, just dont ask others, its against the rules
I wish lava had more beta testers, It'd probably help prevent this from ever happening
what "this"
It's not like lava always listens to people anyway.
coughgoldtogoldcough
Exploitable Slip-ups in the Code
He's probs like "oh no this is bad, but it's rare so it's okay snd I'll just punish people who did it"
Edit: NOT a lava quote. Just a joke on how I perceive he could think bssrd on my personal biases on him
i swear to god I cant wait for world 6
is there any way to stop getting these birthday card drops from leveling up
Assuming you have Sheepie companion, no
wish i could use golden stopwatches to get closer to w6 release
i dont wanna wait anymore
shame lava didn't give us the hp of the first mob in that card screenshot, woulda been useful to know 😦
shouldnt be too high tbf, theres still people fairly new to w5, which still want a playable update ^^
yeah, prolly still gonna be in the B range at any rate
Hope it comes out earlier in the day 😅
wouldn't mind seeing a sharper increase in damage/accuracy tho, as those stats are outright useless now
I know imma have to play on web since iOS will prob be delayed til Monday lol
if i had to guess i'd say first mob is around 3-4 b
We need a thing that scales with accuracy yes
That Woodlin Spirit isn't the first enemy
ah right, I just remembered the name "spirit"
seems to be reoccurring, as the first mob is sprout spirit
enhance
such ghostly
like lot of people said, make w6 absolutely brutal 
I want first map to have Qhp
Thats a little too much,
All I hope for is new music 
I could kill the mobs but no MK 😄
i wouldnt one shot
I sadly doubt 
maybe he'll add scaling at some point or some kind of arena
Do we have w5 music yet?
w5 still dont got music
would make the most sense
Music is top of my wishlist
I just want to be able to take damage on a warrior without prayers on 
just put on the zakuum area music for w5 and the mu luing area for spirited valley
then I am 1 shot 
all good
we all are 
I can imagine my characters just dying in w6 multiple times before I remember I have all those -def multis on
I'll be keeping MK prayer on or so help me
Happened at wurms when I first got there
Last map crystals will of course be the test 😄
i can't imagine how lava can balance w6 to make it hard for everyone
will keep all +hp and -def on my BM for w6, maybe I will need food then 
For the monsters, he simply can't. The idea will be for the new skills to bring something interesting for everyone
AKA RNG timegates

I don't think I'll struggle in w6, but eclipse skulls is gonna take some time, and we know about boss deathnote too, that might be interesting still
there's plenty of options, at least
wait boss deathnote?
Yeh confirmed from deblur
i was surprised as well
im looking forward to spending 15 hours to grind bosses for dn
brug I've literally just dumped a bunch of keys rubying amarok cards :/
the blurred deathjoepickle from december got transcribed, we're getting another DN page left of w1 for boss kills
I hope boss DN gives some stupid amount of MK% per tier, make gmush go to 1Q
So.. deathtoepickle?
i don't know if lava can invent that many coins
and that screen is clearly an unlock from something, and seems to be interesting - will there be other unlocks from whatever grants it? Prolly
do we think that "deathjoepickles" will be a modifier we can equip, that makes bosses harder, but they give more kills?
hmmm....... now wondering whether to save amarok keys.... I'm pretty close to ruby chaotic
Most likely skill #2, since in one thing he said skill #2 will have game changing unlocks for previous content, and I assume this unlock is for deathnote, which is previous content
I mean it mildly looks like the salt lick to me
I always find the discussion just prior to a world release to be the coolest. There was a lot of thoughts around how shrines would work come w5 (as you'd need to leave them in w4 to level them) that people were rightly convinced we'd have a way to make them global
Heres the exact line, so yes I think its a death note upgrade
nice 🙂
excited for that now
right I have some sick bath bombs so gonna have a bath. Ciao
Almost certainly a Jade Emporium upgrade from the background color alone
I wasnt here for world 5 release because I was mad at lava for like a year, but I came back because this game too good 🥹
Here we see "rium" and the background color: #💖future-content-blog message
Yes, all the 3 info provided now confirms that its an emporium upgrade, its undeniable
next step...war of the emperium
Lets start focusing on figuring out world 7, seems like world 6 is solved now
war of emperium was a ragnok online reference^^
is snake the best god for sampling?
and if you dont have doot, equip arctis on es as second god for extra talents
everyone else on goat ofcourse
impressive how 90% of players are middle aged men
wait so to sample for one person I need them on snake and everyone on goat? How does that work? I'd only be able to sample one person a week
the old meta is have all you mages on snake, rest on goat, to sample wood, then after that, have all warriors on snake and veryone else on goat to sample ore/fish
just remember you only have 2 resets, so you can only switch to sampling setup -> back to normal god setup once
if you do -> sampling setup 1 -> sampling setup 2, you will be stuck on sampling setup for a week
Yes and no, you can wait until the end of the week, to do double sampling, and then next day switch to normal
yeah, but it sounded like they wanted to sample now, and i dont know when their reset is, so i didnt want them to accidently get stuck on sampling setup for a week
do we get spoilers on the weekend or does lava take the day off
any tips for killing nightmare kattle on blood berserker, I can kill him on my vman but not bb. 53729M damage
Most likely everything is already done, and he is just letting testers to test the patch, and occasional bug fixes they report
Get more damage 
i should hope so, but you never know with game dev
Did you know that pressing R you autoattack?
i agree with showmdowm here. get more damage 
50bil is low, but not impossible. You just have to juggle back and forth. Use the warrior talents and bear claw to clear adds, auto attack boss, auto attack 1 side of adds til your skills come up, repeat
So uh
BB is only one step away from Vman
Just has tons and tons more damage
more dr
more kills
are you doing nightmare?
Yeah
whats your dr?
It took me 17k keys to get my first one with 18dr
then it is just more dr and more kills
i was like 30-40k keys deep for my first and i got 3 in a row after that
Your dr is very small brother, focus on that first then go back to kruk
did you steal AAAAAA's dr 
hes not even at 3x 
How would i best do that?
pop and dice obols
no offense but thats shockingly low for lv 408
also why bludgeon 
Nothing that a few days of good farming won't fix
I never had to focus on drops before
Search every bonus in Idleon!
farm pop obols at giga frogs and get best roll silver pop obols on at least your family tab
get cards would be the first big step
you got to 44B damage without focusing on drops?
What should i use instead
bro
Gear is meh
full kattle gear with no droprate is insane
ye it looks like a botted acc xd
You can pretty much do everything in this game without a single piece of equipment
Well yeah, printer, alch and kitchen do most of the work for damage
Oh and stamps honestly
My equipment is more then half of my damage though
also, get more crit chance
I spent like 300 candy just getting the golden thread for the helmet

That sucked
its the only important stat in the game
howd you get that far

and defense 
especially when you not even new to the discord lol
of course
long playtime it looks like
a lot of candy it seems
Was he really mad?
Hey why are we hating on crystal chance
My star talents did most of the work in place of defense
Drop rate and crystal chance are the duo 
World 6 bonus = double the effect of your first chip in laboratory
You guys are delusional, Mastery is the best stat 
can you send me your idleontoolbox link so i can tell you where you can get more dr?
Well he made the new blur stronger so at least he was disappointed
Edit deblur -> blur lol
but we all know, that the actual most important stat in the game is matty bag level 
Yeah
lucky you im waiting for my game to download so ive got some spare time 
Multi log is the most important stat in the game
anvil cost reduction is a sleeper stat
Just unlocked toxic hg, was this added fairly recently or been there forever after lvl 120?
true, most important bubble
has been there since w2 or 3
forever and ever and ever
"I don't need to do collo's this week, I'll just go extra hard before the w6 drop" - me 2 weeks ago now sitting 1.7k tickets 




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