lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[shrewd hound]

Not even on a free roll though

[dapper prism]

but thats pretty high treat already 😮

[gaunt shale]

was a free roll

[south gull]

No way

[shrewd hound]

oh W

[noble sable]

Main bm

Well

You will never see a doot

[gaunt shale]

[raven fog]

What does TBD mean

[kindred dagger]

lol, once you started doing your thing, I quit reading the options. Just split screen, and looking at numbers.

[gaunt shale]

To be Dooted

so, me, soon, I can pull in 30 min

[south gull]

"idleschlong"

[gaunt shale]

hahahha

[south gull]

You surely will get a sheepie doot

[shrewd hound]

Working on the Free ram next

[gaunt shale]

[raven fog]

Sell him

[shrewd hound]

Whats the point

[granite grove]

dont question it

[snow light]

everyone over there talking about doot im over here struggling to get the idle skilling stuff cause i keep forgetting to progress in it and open it every so often

[gaunt shale]

I think I have gone fully insane, but will update in moment, something real weird happening in idleon, or contact mod prop better once I confirmed (not related to weeklyboss shenigans)

[snow light]

get doot i wanna see what your gains are with doot at this point

[gaunt shale]

if what I am trippn about is right, i think I am pulling doot in 8minutes

[snow light]

also kanna how many shinies do you have at 10? or at least past 5

[gaunt shale]

allmost all are past 5, now doing important ones to 8 since I am done with w6 to 8, I was working on shiny rate pets, but it turns out they are useless and dont make diff at least going from total 81% shiny rate to 99% shiny rate did nothing, so not bothering with them

[fallen torrent]

when pet trading become a thing, i want that doot 😄

gringo

[gaunt shale]

going for lvl 10 shiny nice for flex, but in same time it takes you to go from 8->10, you could lvl 3 other pets to lvl 8, so investing the time kinda hurts

[fallen torrent]

flex is a waste

[gaunt shale]

I would agree, but not if its BM related flex

[fallen torrent]

bm is a waste*

[signal osprey]

10 isnt even just a flex though tbh

Getting shiny speed to 10 for the investment as well as meal effect % to 10

[gaunt shale]

but shiny speed, from my testing, does almost nothing

[signal osprey]

It takes a long time sure but meal effect is better than most other shinies combined so not really much of a waste

[signal osprey]

Well yeah each level gives a relatively smaller increase than the previous so its not something you would want to push indefinitely

[gaunt shale]

increase in 28% shiny up rate, resulted in still same progress, at least how far we can measure it, since measuring in increments of 24h is kinda, annoying but what can you do

[dapper prism]

Speaking of shiny level up, here's the base time:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1198790594189856779/hiny_pet_levels.png?ex=65d2a4be&is=65c02fbe&hm=665b507e7895488fe88b71e89e06414b53a2c2456e74bf037903ff6ef27354f3&

Source: Randomly found on this Discord.

[gaunt shale]

no doot, still something strange going on

[dapper prism]

ty4reminder, i just got a bean 😦

[fallen torrent]

i cant have the slime anymore 😢

[autumn hollow]

Only 319 years to get to level 15, lol

[dapper prism]

divided by 27, still a decade

[autumn hollow]

Oh wait, thats just from 14 to 15

?

[dapper prism]

Forgot how shiny displays the time,
Think you need to subtract the above value

[south gull]

Hmm

[shrewd hound]

anyone know why my Vman shows as 0 points on my 2nd tab?

[fallen torrent]

get 1 lvl in the first skill left

[dapper prism]

since i remember at around 5-6 you're at 90-100days and it shows you the x?/200 it doesnt start from 0

[slender sandal]

put a point in the 1st talent first

[dapper prism]

no point in the talent that gives you points

Also remember to use checkmate

[fallen torrent]

and dont forget that the First top right corner skill of maestro (the chesspiece) is also additional point

[shrewd hound]

Yeah that would do it

Checkmate?

[sharp wind]

Which class gonna be faster for portal push when w6 came out? Bubo?

[dapper prism]

yup

[amber dagger]

Yeah, I've seen some dmg spikes too idk why or dmg losses

[wind umbra]

did u do w2 boss in between that time? you mightve gotten a bunch of damage from there?

theres a misc thing that gives u dmg

[fallen torrent]

1m mining left, 420k axe, 1.8mil beholder close to it

[wind umbra]

second row

[gaunt shale]

oh lol, thats the thing hotair trying to contain, nvm, the doot pull just made me believe it got something else to do, didnt knew what it does, @wind umbra lets wipe chat before hotair does it for us

[tall horizon]

You didn't say anything wrong

[quasi galleon]

Although wiping chat does sound fun

[gaunt shale]

oh lol, to late

[wind umbra]

o was it bad?

[gaunt shale]

apperantly not, just rule 4 yknow

[wind umbra]

wasnt w2 boss giving dmg always a thing?

[quasi galleon]

Yes

[signal osprey]

This is the only thing you said thats kinda sus

[quasi galleon]

It's always been one of the Misc actions

[gaunt shale]

[static basin]

w2 boss has been click 1/2/3 according to the guide for so long that we've all forgotten what the options even say

[gaunt shale]

stop playing DK, play some BM, enjoy life

[static basin]

i do as the guide commands

[quasi galleon]

Why play either class?

[gaunt shale]

yeah lmao, clicked the loop just for lolz a bit cuz, its rather funny, until I missclicked

[quasi galleon]

Just do SB and get 10mil Plunderous kills

[tall horizon]

Some endgamers, can't even remember bonuses

[quasi galleon]

Most even

[signal osprey]

I'm enjoying myself just fine

[paper sail]

It me

[quasi galleon]

If you asked any endgamer what the guild bonuses are, I can almost guarantee you they'd have an issue with recanting them

Myself included

[gaunt shale]

being able to read google sheets is enough, no need to interact with ingame text

[signal osprey]

I know theres a carry cap one because I ran into an issue maxing stamps because of that

Theres also a money one I think

And gift boxes

[static basin]

moneyyyy

[autumn hollow]

Im pretty sure there are +AFK gains too

[signal osprey]

And 20% DR

[static basin]

speaking of money, how much increase from tremors to end w6 u think the jump is gonna be just from the mob alone? like 20x?

[quasi galleon]

0.5x

Lava hates the rich

[static basin]

o no

trapped in tremors for another year

[quasi galleon]

Or maybe 0.1x

[signal osprey]

Honestly I would be okay with that tbh

[gaunt shale]

lavas fix to having not enough new coins is just nerfing money making hard

[quasi galleon]

Nah, it's 0.5x. He's obviously nerfing W5 money too

[signal osprey]

Lava can keep his damn update then

[static basin]

yes... nerf money gain so no one can catch up to me... yessss

https://tenor.com/view/mr-burns-vingança-revenge-plano-os-simpsons-gif-22044850

[quasi galleon]

Also he's increasing the coin cost for everything globally. Your stamps will now cost 4.5x as much, shops will cost 2.75x as much, and Alchemy P2W will require green gems

||(For the dense, I'm joking)||

[static basin]

For the even denser who won't click the spoiler, he's joking

[signal osprey]

Green gems in alch p2w would be one hell of a ladder pull wtf

Free players cant catch a break

[fallen torrent]

for those who has stopped reading after hotair jokes.... rip

[static basin]

im lowkey hoping things aside from just stamps are expensive again

[fallen torrent]

im lowkey just hoping W6 will be a fun haven

[signal osprey]

I'm fine with stamps being the main money sink I think it would just make more sense to have the cost kinda normalized among them

[gilded pond]

[signal osprey]

Make all of them fairly expensive rather than having 99% of them cost nothing and then 4 of them cost more money than you can fathom

[vapid cove]

damn that would be one of the worst case things to ever happen

[quasi galleon]

Obviously it wouldn't happen lol

[static basin]

it might, a mod said it

[vapid cove]

ye

[static basin]

!!!

[signal osprey]

Aside from the green gem part it would honestly not even do that much tbh

Even at 5x price most of the stamps would have a negligible cost anyway

[quasi galleon]

I mean, alchemy P2W is mostly for the noobs. It's a W2 skill

And stamps are expensive enough as is lol

[vapid cove]

and yet its more important than all of them combined

W2 skill

[static basin]

yeah im a bit out of touch when it comes to money. When i saw the shop teases i was like wtf why is the oil so cheap, not even a single dreadlo for the stack, the chest isnt even a single godshard wtf

and then i check back to w5 chat and everyone is panicking cos it's so expensive

i think a normal w5 player doesnt even hit a single godshard at the time of beating kruk right?

[tall horizon]

Most endgame have no concept of what is achievable for newish accounts 🤷

Godshard is hard for most to ever see

[graceful gorge]

How much time for this package end? I want the pet one

[gilded pond]

I've beat kk on nightmare and haven't hit a godshard yet

[paper sail]

I beat Kruk on my alt with about 10 Lustre coins all-time

[gilded pond]

I also spend my money on stamps, etc. constantly

[vapid cove]

The G mush world counter is gonna feel it when I try going for 100 bil

[kind epoch]

sad day - today I learned about shiny snitch. Pumped my shiny snitch prayer, then forgot to equip it.

Oh well. Guess it's on for tomorrow :p

[quasi galleon]

They rotate on Fridays, pretty sure

[paper sail]

Just have to wait for the W7 buff that raises the level cap on Shrine Architect star talent to 1000

[signal osprey]

Even more star talent points I need but dont have

[graceful gorge]

Ty

[quasi galleon]

Now imagine if my request to Lava went through that the lab bonus for gmush didn't work past 100mil kills (since that was the max for death note value at the time).

We might still have a proper economy all around lol

[static basin]

honestly im not against caps on things to make game balancing easier and keep the game healthier

i got 757b gmush but i wouldnt even be against a 1b cap

[vapid cove]

fyi im not even close to what i said of 100 bil

im more or less just in the 2 billion mark

[signal osprey]

Some caps are fine but for gmush specifically 100m is far too low with the way he designed stamp cost

[quasi galleon]

I still think that cap would have been the better choice back when W4 was released, but it wasn't my decision to make

[signal osprey]

I'm still just waiting for the liquid decant cap

[quasi galleon]

I have other feelings about that

[warm pike]

Yippee

[quasi galleon]

You're so lucky achievements exist at the start of your W5 experience lol

[static basin]

alchemy bubble cap of 10k excluding grind time :3

[quasi galleon]

That was much more annoying for me to unlock hahah

[pine slate]

I still don't have it

[static basin]

last time i mentioned that i got flamed for knowing nothing about game balance

[signal osprey]

Nah fuck that if you cap alch you cap GT

[static basin]

10k GT makes 500 all chars feel fine imo, so a 10k cap wouldnt even be terrible for GT too

but people are just so used to their exp at 30k GT

[tall horizon]

I did 500 all at 6k 🤷

[static basin]

wouldnt make ppl happy to cap stuff when they've exceeded that cap

[signal osprey]

Yeah I would be more than a little annoyed to see a 10k alch cap lol

[warm pike]

Why is w2 the hardest world🫨

[quasi galleon]

Honestly wouldn't bother me seeing a 10k cap

[static basin]

with alchemy being an everlasting pursuit, it feels a bit daunting

if 10k main stats were the cap i'd happily candy my way there with a clear end goal

but cos it's forever, it doesnt appeal to me

[signal osprey]

10k would be very easy to hit though with candy

[static basin]

for us yeah, but not for the vast vast majority

[signal osprey]

I'm not opposed to having caps at all but at least give endgame a little bit of something to shoot for

The vast majority cant hit 10k either though

And by the time they get to a position where the can then they could do 20 or 30k too

Alch is a struggle until one day it isnt

[static basin]

candying 10k mainstats already sounds like a nightmare, fuck 30k

getting the po tickets and running the colos for the candy, fine
using the candies, picking up the stuff, having to jump back to bubo for more liquid, repeating for hours and hours, sounds super tedious

in 1 hour of candying, how many levels would u get in str bubble for example?

including the time to refill liquid and stuff

[signal osprey]

I have no idea. Candying levels now is pretty dumb with the massive power creep we're about to get so I havent bothered

[vapid cove]

tbh i'd be happy if I can use stacks of 1 hr candies

[south gull]

I did candy agi for my pre w6 damage picture and.. it was sooo annoying

[static basin]

how much dmg did u get to

[south gull]

#achievement-pics message

[static basin]

is that 1.1QQ?

[south gull]

Yep

[static basin]

dayum

[vapid cove]

someones trying to finish W6 in 1 day

[static basin]

1.1QQ pre w6, 1Q on day 1 of w6 cos of qs nerf

https://tenor.com/view/hehe-shirley-temple-giggle-laugh-trendizisst-gif-5503399820357753601

[signal osprey]

I cant wait for the base damage nerf

[vapid cove]

is that something that is actually happening?

QS nerf

[signal osprey]

Unfortunately it probably wont

[vapid cove]

good

[static basin]

i think it has to surely

[signal osprey]

But it needs to

[static basin]

people will be multikill capped on the final w6 mob the way its going

[vapid cove]

Well I need more damage not less lol

[signal osprey]

It definitely gets nerfed eventually

I just dont think it will be on W6 launch

[ocean lily]

After playing IdleSkilling enough... I don't really see Lava trying to crunch numbers down too much

Could definitely be wrong but seeing only a fraction of possible skills in game reaching the Qs (Meal cooking speed, for example) for even later-game characters, there's a lot of runway before things get too screwy

[vapid cove]

Just like idleon I didnt touch idle skilling till not too long ago im trying to finish up those quests for the trophy and stuff

[signal osprey]

Once upon a time weapon power was an actually useful stat before he gutted it

Lava isnt completely above nerfing things that get out of line

QS will have its nerf come one day

[static basin]

every time we talk about this is gets me down. accuracy useless, defence useless, hp useless aside from sample, mp useless aside from sample, dmg largely useless :(

[ocean lily]

Never said that, just doesn't seem like W6 release is going to come with a base damage nerf for ultra-endgamers

[static basin]

and by useless i mean uselessly large numbers

[vapid cove]

im looking for the big FMJ def numbers. Maybe someone has like 1 mil def already

[ocean lily]

My guess is W6 ramps up scaling on all sorts of things to very high levels

meanwhile W5 was basically W4+1

[vapid cove]

https://tenor.com/view/i-never-thought-of-it-like-that-tracy-jordan-30rock-didnt-see-it-that-way-didnt-think-that-way-gif-19746764

[signal osprey]

1m happened a long time ago. Camp is looking at having defense green stacked soon lol

[vapid cove]

oops

when I clicked a gif and it loaded more

i have no idea what i put in here

well im pretty down low on fmj lol im just getting to the 6k def

still though the very little def upgrade made my bubo go from taking like 35k from a tremor crystal to like 5k now

[torn turret]

Question, i just noticed theres different numbers when i see construction from my warriors compared compared to the other classes, am i losing construction while active on es compared to a dk? how does it work when im log out?

[vapid cove]

basically if you have 2 second DK has double of the first build speed

or so its kinda what ive seen in mine

not sure exactly how it works though

[torn turret]

I assume its related to alchemy

Carpenter + warriors rule

[wind umbra]

yup u got it

[torn turret]

But again, that construction is only up when active on my dk?

[wind umbra]

yes

u get more build speed if u are active on warrior

[gilded pond]

And here I am stoked I just broke into the 30-40b range

[vapid cove]

I need to active bubo the rest of this week for the alchemy procs

[vapid cove]

im in the same place but only my Archer/ dk have gone to 45ish 50 bil

others are mid 20s

[south gull]

You doing good, keep up the good work and you'll reach my damage one day

[vapid cove]

and my void walker is like 2 bil

[gilded pond]

I'm about 10b behind you, but same thing. DK, ES and SB are in the 30's. Everyone else is 15-25ish

[elfin cape]

Huge damage

[south gull]

Thanks

[torn turret]

i hit 1m last week

[vapid cove]

Already pre unlocked a lot of W6 bubbles just gotta wait till the drop happens

yeah ive been working on y void mans skills

to get the dmg multiplier

it would also help if I got the 3rd rank of the book check sailing artifact

its been sailing there for a couple of months on 2 hours

no luck yet

[south gull]

Nice

[split orbit]

weekly boss shop starpower is the bored to death one right?

[slate vector]

97k kills until I can kill kattlecruk!

[rough wasp]

depends but earlier on i could get ~400. Now its prob closer to like 200ish

[kind epoch]

any real downside to zerg rushogen?

[lapis elm]

Just gotta turn it off when you do stamps on your vman that's about it

Otherwise amazing

[gaunt shale]

zerg goes off and rucksack on for active play

[lapis elm]

Rucksack best prayer

[vagrant mountain]

I put all my characters on rucksack and put them on div altar

[knotty adder]

Which po boxes I should prioritize in vman?

[calm gust]

Question

When w6 release? I asking about time

[vagrant mountain]

soon

[gaunt shale]

I would assume before I manage to wake up, which would be anytime before like 3-6pm GMT+1

[obtuse rover]

Lava probably doesn't even know yet.
It'll depend on how long in advanced he pushes the new version and how long it takes each platform to let it go live.

[gaunt shale]

well, lava likes to push his updates in evening (for EU) from just past updates, so I think its safe to assume its not gonna be in morning or middle of day

[hybrid halo]

So probably right about the time when I should go to bed

[obtuse rover]

Maybe you should reconsider your priorities 😎

[hybrid halo]

I won't be going to bed if that's the case

[obtuse rover]

I've already quit my job ahead of time and have been preparing myself to take an LD50 dose of caffeine when W6 drops.

[pearl cedar]

Feb 16th 3 a.m. EST on iOS, steam release isn't until feb 18th at 0600 UTC. Android he is giving up on and not releasing

[slender sandal]

[obtuse rover]

But will I be able to experience it on my Apple Vision Pro?

[slender sandal]

there's a random specific distro of linux that gets it on the 15th

[pearl cedar]

Terminal only flavor

[obtuse rover]

This is why I've partitioned my drives so I can run as many different distros as possible.

[pearl cedar]

Wii u is getting it early as well

[obtuse rover]

Yeah but no one owns one, so it doesn't help anyone.

[dapper prism]

shouldnt it be switched up between ios and android

android has 0 issues, ios has a stick up... urm...

[gaunt shale]

I still have mine, but the E-shop for Wii U is down, how it gonna get update ??? buddha lying

[obtuse rover]

Lava's uncle has since been laid off and has begun working at Apple approving app updates.

[pearl cedar]

Yeah that's why he's getting rid of android. He needs to focus more time on Apple

Typing on mobile hard

[short sparrow]

I'm looking forward to playing it on my ngage

[dapper prism]

Better off making IdleOn work on Apple Vision Pro, how else are we supposed to play >:)

[hybrid halo]

Not even the N-Gage QD? Amateur

[slender sandal]

idleon for smart fridge only

[fathom lagoon]

LMAO

[vapid cove]

skilling

[shrewd hound]

How many people do you think use andriod and dont have a computer

[vapid cove]

i use both tbh

when im not home

I sometimes leave the computer on

[obtuse rover]

Krillin, for sure

[graceful gorge]

How much drop rate should I have to start farm Hampter efficiently?

[shrewd hound]

More than me

[vapid cove]

Other times I use it on my phone giving pc resting time

[shrewd hound]

Im at 11.62x and it took me about a week to get the 1500 for weapons, and i would still need another 1000 for bags

[obtuse rover]

Obviously more is better.
You can grind through it with an ES and >10 DR, I imagine. But it'll obviously be faster as you get more DR, it all depends on the state of your account and what else you could be doing with your active slot.

[rapid shale]

why get bags now when w6 bags come out soon?

[shrewd hound]

Thats why im not farming the last 1000

[rapid shale]

oh ye, i also did that grind at about 12

[graceful gorge]

I have 10 DR rn

And 700b damage

[obtuse rover]

Yeah, people who grinded it out at the start of W5 had to get by with much lower DRs than we can hit right now.

[shrewd hound]

700b damage is crazy

You might get alot more quicker than i did then

[obtuse rover]

Damage definitely helps for farming with ES, yeah

[exotic juniper]

this is useless if im not dieing, right?

[graceful gorge]

I'm without the obols for Dr but max is 10

[shrewd hound]

Do none of your characters have the DR obols?

[short sparrow]

For the vman 12m kill quest, I should just stack as much damage and mk as possible, right?

[sour oasis]

Should definitely try to get DR higher

[graceful gorge]

I do,I only not wearing it

[shrewd hound]

I would swap them to your ES for the grind then

[graceful gorge]

It's not worth put Midas prayer on ES right?

[exotic juniper]

yea dont

[obtuse rover]

Not for most accounts.
There may be exceptions for very, very high damage accounts on very low HP mobs.

[exotic juniper]

for reference my DR is pretty mid at 16.14x without prayer on ES. here is where I get mine.

[graceful gorge]

Someone said that DK was good to farm rare drops

Is that right?

[exotic juniper]

DK for crystal drops, ES for mob drops

[obtuse rover]

Generally speaking ES is better for anything that only drops from the main mob of the map (not on crystals) because its portal drop multi is absurd.

[graceful gorge]

Got it tyvm

[shrewd hound]

I need to figure out where im missing so much dmg

Is it really just alchemy?

[obtuse rover]

Alchemy is definitely the biggest thing, yeah

[blazing creek]

Anyone know why W5 doesn't have any BGM ?

[obtuse rover]

It helps too if you're insane and hourly click bubbles in alchemy.

[shrewd hound]

I dont have the print speed to do bubbles hourly yet

[blazing creek]

Yeah , that's the biggest source of damage you can get

[gentle furnace]

I muted the game after one week of playing in w2

[shrewd hound]

Like even logs i only have at 31m/hr

[blazing creek]

Same

[obtuse rover]

Fair, fair
That'll come with time

[blazing creek]

Me who's at 244/h

[shrewd hound]

244 or 244m?

[graceful tinsel]

Eclipse skulls, equinox dmg buff and alchemy are pretty much the biggest dps increases. And then crystal steak is also huge

[blazing creek]

244

[shrewd hound]

Oh yeah eclipse skulls are another thing i havent done yet but mostly because KPH is low for it i feel like

[exotic juniper]

if youre at 244/hour you shouldnt be in this channel lol

[vagrant mountain]

couldn't find the Zakum area music in the Maplestory files

[blazing creek]

Aren't eclipse skulls from the rift ?

[blazing creek]

I just got to world 5

[exotic juniper]

unlocked in rift then 1b kills on each mob

[blazing creek]

Ah , ok , so how do I fix that ?

[blazing creek]

I see

[exotic juniper]

up your prints man. 😱

[zealous niche]

244 oak?

[blazing creek]

I'm trying , highest I got is 16.5k/h on spores from v-man speedrun print

[blazing creek]

I haven't printed oak yet , but I'd assume so

[vagrant mountain]

https://youtu.be/3EJFx4emHyk?si=VQfcqrSJXzlv_uuw

open browser and play this on loop while you are gaming

[shrewd hound]

What are the main DPS bubbles to go for? Obviously the main stat ones but what else?

[zealous niche]

That’s what they’re talking about

[gentle furnace]

Qs

[blazing creek]

Thanks monke

[blazing creek]

I know

Let me go print it rq

[blazing creek]

6 qnd 11

[runic token]

Something I neglected for a long time and only started recently doing that I don't see mentioned ever is adding spending your library books to your routine and maxing out everyones skills. So many skills are so far behind for me personally so this change will be great!

[gentle furnace]

11 gives 🤏 25 gives more

[obtuse rover]

I'm too busy pumping bob for leveling QS

[blazing creek]

I'm not at 25 yet sadly

Ok , so I just sampled oak , it's not as bad as I thought

1814/h

[exotic juniper]

1814 is still extremely low. are you setting skills up right? maxing out efficiency? gems? using logs on logs beforehand? cards? how is your rift for skill mastery?

[winged lance]

God i hope IE gets updated after the W6 Release i really like the Combination of IE and Toolbox

[exotic juniper]

try and get this at minimum for all chopping cards passive

i think thats lvl 30 chopping on each char pretty easy with 1 hour candies on w4 tree

[winged lance]

Or wait till next week and use w5 trees 🤷

[exotic juniper]

that works too

[shrewd hound]

Are there characters that i should keep magma armor on instead of doing divine armor?

[hybrid halo]

Bubo active full magma, afk full divine or divine chest and legs

[shrewd hound]

Just bubo has both though?

[cyan mantle]

Whats the best way to farm leaves

[hybrid halo]

Depends if divine helmet and feet gets you to the next dr breakpoint, if not full magma

DK active on beans for green leafs

[cyan mantle]

Ty

[cyan mantle]

Wait how bc beans don't drop leaves

[hybrid halo]

Crystal mobs do

[cyan mantle]

My chances for crystal mobs are low I think

[jovial spire]

im trying to log into ildeon effiency but i log in threw steam into my idleon, what login do i use?

[hybrid halo]

Google

[jovial spire]

i did google but it didnt connect to my account

[cyan mantle]

It takes many tries

[shrewd hound]

Use the crystal cards, the card doubles in lab chips, and upgrade the stamp, i can get it down to 1/33 and with the moon cookie chip in lab you get the chance to respawn crystals when they die

[tardy onyx]

Any stats increase big nugget chance?

[shrewd hound]

The equinox upgrade is huge to get

[rough wasp]

i can feel it. the upgrade

i lied

[shrewd hound]

Unlucky

[rough wasp]

on the bright side

it didnt go back

[shrewd hound]

I need to get the snail

[rough wasp]

snail is good

[tardy onyx]

Bet, I'll work on equinox. But like luck doesn't matter? Or trying the shovel on dk?

[rough wasp]

luck doesnt matter

its rng until equinox and its stioll rng but you can get a better nugget

[tardy onyx]

Yeah it felt like that lol ty

[patent hatch]

The duck

Quack

[split orbit]

is it okay for vman to be lower level lab then other chars

[noble aspen]

mines 2nd place and will remain 2nd place

[hexed elm]

for the fishpaste97 quest, does multi fishing ruin the streak? or do you only need 3 instances of a row that include hermit cans to count

[rough wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/quack-duck-gif-20246771

[noble aspen]

multifish ruins it

unless you rip 3 cans in 1 pull

[hexed elm]

rip wish i could filter out all other fish lol

[noble aspen]

kinda an annoying RNG quest

[hexed elm]

yeah i need the token for slab

[noble aspen]

same, and i finished that quest on 3 characters

[hexed elm]

already converted the ones i had into w2 trophies so i gotta do it on an archer :/

[noble aspen]

be sure to drop it and pick it up before use

[shrewd hound]

You can do it with multifish

[hexed elm]

yeah always gotta do that for tokens

i do that now for everything

yeah multifish works just gotta get lucky

[hybrid halo]

Or open slab with the item in your inventory

[hexed elm]

way too lazy for that ngl 😂

maybe a plat rod is good enough

nice got it

[brazen cliff]

Pickle trauma has me still buying them after getting the vial

[low pecan]

me too haha

[shrewd hound]

Well yeah level 3 is huge upgrade

[low pecan]

knowing Lava, w7 is going include something about pickle level 3 lol

[hybrid halo]

👀

[shrewd hound]

A whole year of pickles

[low pecan]

god damn.

[modern plaza]

if you’re going for lvl 4 pickle. you will satisfy my desire

[hybrid halo]

Only 2 more years

[low pecan]

lvl 3 takes 1k... 2 more years

[shrewd hound]

Are there enuogh shop stock upgrades to where you can do 2 a day

[low pecan]

or is it level 4? i lost count

[modern plaza]

lvl 3 is 1k

lvl 4 is 10 years total roughly

[shrewd hound]

Until the pickle enemy comes out that can drop them

[low pecan]

wait.. it doesnt have to be a whole 2 years. we have that golden stopwatch now.

[pine yacht]

god damn I hate the snail... 90% to get 2 mail I keep getting 1... not even mentioning being stuck at lvl 10 all the time...

[low pecan]

enough of that.. can ...

[modern plaza]

true reason why golden stopwatch was implemented

[low pecan]

exactly

[modern plaza]

only 9 years

[low pecan]

you must've angered rngesus at some point.

[pine yacht]

I think I got furry, both normal one and ancient in a single day... that's about the best I can remember

tho that was like a year ago

[modern plaza]

rng usually happens in waves

[velvet mural]

What level do I put ES chaotic force to and why?

[modern plaza]

its much more rare for rng to be perfectly spaced out

[pine yacht]

where my good wave at then

[shrewd hound]

as close to 100% as possible

[pine yacht]

it's way overdue, lemme talk to your rng manager

[low pecan]

the beauty/paradoxical nature of rng

[modern plaza]

thank god for pseudo rng

[shrewd hound]

Its actually just as statistically likely for it to be perfectly spaced out than to be all at once than not for a long time

[modern plaza]

exactly!

[low pecan]

btw anyone feel like doing a quick IE review to see if I am missing something for vman dmg?

I am already following the autoreview path. but my vman dmg is just in the shitter and I dont know how to get it up.

https://mechworrior.idleonefficiency.com

[pine yacht]

ehhh... maybe next wave gifts me an AFK trophy

[modern plaza]

i love rng bc when it happens it is more likely that it will happen a few more times

[pine yacht]

u really must hate slushes huh ?

[shrewd hound]

Do you need the crit chance prayer on for some reason? Losing out on alot of crit damage for it when you can get 200% with statues/star talents

Oh no

You dont have any Onyx statues?

[low pecan]

This is actually untrue. While it is true that two random events is more likely to be closer together than spaced apart. it does not mean that another event will is more likely to happen following a previous event..

refer to my previous paradoxical nature of rng

[shrewd hound]

Or they just dont show up

[low pecan]

I think its just not showing up

[worn sonnet]

Oh yeah new boss

[shrewd hound]

Yeah they dont show on IE

[worn sonnet]

I should do that before I get a lot of afk saved up

[low pecan]

nothing specific. just dont see the benefits of doing them?

[low pecan]

all star talents are active... I do wonder the difference between running the crit prayer vs the crit card pack

[hybrid halo]

Candy

[shrewd hound]

Youre losing alot of damage from not having Mega crit and 200% crit chance from other sources

[low pecan]

currently in skilling mode. fully maxed out mega when fighting afk.

[pine yacht]

candy, keys and gems mainly

[low pecan]

yeah okay. will finish the wave when I get home later then

[pine yacht]

what is your crit chance without crit prayer and pack ?

[low pecan]

173 I believe

[shrewd hound]

I would try and get Beholder statue higher

[pine yacht]

just onyx it

[low pecan]

I dont think i got 20k of that yet? I cant remember

[shrewd hound]

I assume he already does, just needs to farm more and deposit them

[pine yacht]

it will get you over 200 % mark and then some

[low pecan]

need to farm that

[shrewd hound]

Yeah if its not onyx i would farm all the w1 trophies to get that

[pine yacht]

while onyxing that one u will probably get a few more done which will help both with dmg and the overall acc progression

[shrewd hound]

wait

You have so many statues

[low pecan]

its onyxed. i need to farm

[shrewd hound]

Check storage lol

You apparently have 560k of them

[low pecan]

I was under the impression that its better to deposit everything after I have as much as possible onyxed first?

[hybrid halo]

Wait till W6 and onyx the new statues at this point

[low pecan]

so yeah. trying to farm out the last 5

currently plan before release is push my seige to 500. then active on DK for statues. and starting Next fri. push w6. (honestly not even sure I can get seige to 500 before then)

[snow light]

i said eff it since my statue farm is taking so long i might as well level up the onyx ones at least

[low pecan]

Thank yall for the quick review. if there is anything else that is glaring to you. I'd appreciate it too

[low pecan]

I fully understand that sentiment. but I've dragged it out this long. at this point I kinda wanna green stack a few before destroying the,

[snow light]

i just wanna get a few to lvl 100 at this point tbh maybe after onyxing everything

[exotic juniper]

im trying for 20 tomorrow

[modern plaza]

the rarest scenario is that it is all clumped at the same time or all perfectly spaced out. therefore, it is more likely to happen in waves lol 😂

it’s always been this way and will never change as long as it’s pseudo random

[exotic juniper]

Rolls possible: 70.4K-112M
Nuggets since upgrade: 3483

since 3.1m....

[worldly gulch]

just got my first card doubler, woohoo. also bubo goes brrrr after reaching tent200, fun times.

the mat costs of 40 hours alch progress per hour are hard to swallow for my shitty economy though

[low pecan]

I am actually not sure what you mean by pseudo-random here.

Yes I am agreeing that events are more likely to happen in relative success to one another eg, some days in between, rather than at a regular interval (evenly spaced) or on the same day.
but that doesnt change the fact that a previous random event have no bearing on the next random event. it could just be a single random event. and you are getting a wave of size 1

[modern plaza]

yeah nugget upgrade should be a multiplier % not a additive % 😉

[low pecan]

<<clearly a math nerd. sorry for the longwinded text

[modern plaza]

ahh yes purely random is purely random. pseudo random is where there is 10% of a certain size of data that is an event. and that 10% is randomly disputed across that size of data. thus giving you a guaranteed 10% if you entertain the entire data set. whereas pure random doesn’t pre-determine when you win and lose

[exotic juniper]

what do you mean

[modern plaza]

10% is just an example number

pseudo random is like guaranteed randomness bc a percentage of the dataset is predetermined as successful to maintain exactly the success rate if you span the entire dataset

[worldly gulch]

i mean that i can barely upgrade any bubbles even tho i get over9000 waters every timeunit, i just cant get enough materials for that

[exotic juniper]

can always do grind time 🙂

[modern plaza]

so clusters and single events are more likely. but yeah it is incorrect to specifically say that a random event will usually have another close by. you are right on that. it is more proper to say that when a random event occurs it is most likely another may occur sooner or later than the average @low pecan

[low pecan]

Yes. exactly. glad to have this 'argument'? discussion?

[modern plaza]

refinement is key to success 😉

[low pecan]

two math nerd taking over the chat. sorry yall

[modern plaza]

lava would be proud and now will use quantum randomness to ensure we never can predict

[low pecan]

Did we all put in enough money for them pets for him to afford his own?

[modern plaza]

just got a new paycheck and am trying to spend it… comon lava give us companions before w6

[sweet mountain]

Is it safe to max orb of rememberance? I remember some people talking about that high levels would give you two concurrent orbs and that only the most recent one would increase the kill count.

[modern plaza]

something around lvl 265 unless you get go up to 309+ iirc

[hybrid halo]

267 or 310+

[modern plaza]

optimal is to not have cooldown from PO and then you can go a bit higher

[sweet mountain]

Mine right now is at 267 (was 265 but I maxed the +tlnt level talent) and my current possible max is 309... so either one if fine for me then?

[modern plaza]

is 310 even achievable?? equinox makes it possible now huh??

[hybrid halo]

Yes, I'm at 321 max level

[modern plaza]

wow so close to lvl 400 tentacle

[noble mesa]

Its still far

If we get more talents lvl in w6 we mey get it

[modern plaza]

imagine lvl 800 tenty in w8

[hybrid halo]

Higher cooldown affect other talents, and gives less gains overall

[modern plaza]

yeah it’s not worth optimizing around orb like that

[gilded pond]

I thought there was a vman speedrun guide pinned, but I don't see it. Anyone know where I can find one?

[modern plaza]

anyone complete full speedrun yet?

[next locust]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1109526896640807002

[gilded pond]

tips n tricks, duh. Thank you!

[modern plaza]

any idea what w6 scaling will be like compared to w5?

[untold saffron]

I'd expect the same as 4 to 5

[next locust]

Yeps probs around 20-30x from first zone to last

[modern plaza]

so 10T dmg will just fly thru it 😦

[next locust]

Lava might surprise and make it scale a lot harder tho. There's really no reason any player to have zero alchemy at that point.

Or we might get the dreaded qs nerf
shivers

But yeah most likely it'll be a breeze

[hybrid halo]

Laughs in lvl 605 qs

[gilded pond]

What are these?

[hybrid halo]

Fomo rings

[gilded pond]

Limited items?

[next locust]

Premium rings. They give you kill count multiplier for their respective worlds for opening portals

Wish I'd gotten them when they were around 😭

[hybrid halo]

Only have 1 W3 ring and never used it

Only +1 slab

[worn sonnet]

They're allright if you don't have eclipse yet

But w4 is IMO the only good one

Great for rift afk

[hybrid halo]

Fair enough

[next locust]

I'd take even the w3 ring tho. Would help a lot with those stache+ram portals

[granite grove]

w1 ring might also be good too for gmush stacks, ig

[hybrid halo]

I'm just glad I didn't miss out on the droprate and mob respawn Keychains, those are huge

[next locust]

Nooo why did you remind those exist 😭

[hybrid halo]

Surely they will become available again at some point

[next locust]

I've missed almost all fomo stuff

[granite grove]

i missed out on fomo dr chain

need it

[next locust]

Only got the dragonic cauldron this rota

[exotic juniper]

tomorrow i try for lvl 20 🙄

[next locust]

Good luck!
Been there 4 times now and currently can't get back from 15

[potent lily]

1b dmg lets go

[proven iron]

i think when i hit 1b damage i'll be still dressed in void armor.

[sleek ermine]

Its very good for speedrunnin on vman, so it still has uses

[scenic bridge]

any tips for onyxing fishing statue?

[sleek ermine]

Yes you just go do catching, its the only real source

its one of the harder ones

[storm kelp]

why tomorrow? I am doing slow and steady. also on 19 but will wait for like 50% lol

[sleek ermine]

Yolo ("You only live once" for genz)

[rugged token]

Just woke up and it's done

[sleek ermine]

Waking up means you slept, and sleeping is for the weak, how could you reveal to us that youre a weakling?

[rugged token]

because there will always be someone stronger then I am so it is inevitable that i'm a weakling

[sleek ermine]

So true

[sleek ermine]

I am gonna get this in world 6, cant be bothered to focus on leveling atm

[rugged token]

have to go farm another sparkle dice obol now

[sleek ermine]

Which oine, drop rate?

[rugged token]

yeah

[sleek ermine]

Not even prepared for such an event smh

[keen moon]

how does the shiny snitch prayer work with the daily, auto trap claim? just equip it on the one you active upon daily reset?

[tall notch]

Ayy finally got skinny 0 cal to 100%

Vman printer goes brr

[sleek ermine]

GOD ALMIGHTY THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSING!

[frigid patrol]

Wait so I can’t get common companions since I’m in the door tier?

[sleek ermine]

Yes

rip bonus for ever

[brazen fern]

is there any alternative way like collosseum or some else to farm FRIGID souls besides worship?

[sleek ermine]

no dont think so

[frigid patrol]

Has he talked about this at all I’m missing two common pets

[sleek ermine]

Not sure, I was having a break when the pets were released, but in the past 3 or 4 months I havent heard anything about it, since he has been focusing on world 6 development

When and if trading is released you can trade for them

[rugged token]

[frigid patrol]

Aren’t bought pets the only tradable ones?

[sleek ermine]

Yes

[frigid patrol]

Prolly gon have to end up leveling up a new acc n buying gems on it for them 😭

[sleek ermine]

Bro xD

the bonuses are not that important

[frigid patrol]

x10 damage n +15 all stats 😞

[sleek ermine]

x10? Which common pet does that hahaha

Its total damage, total damage is additive with other stuff, so if you have 200% total damage from somewhere else, its gonna become 210% total damage

All stats is good yes, but there are much better things to get for gems/value

[frigid patrol]

Ah I see, just seems like a missed opportunity

[sleek ermine]

It is a little, did you really just not get them or did you destroy

[frigid patrol]

Didn’t get them

[sleek ermine]

the system is kinda shit tbh

[frigid patrol]

But I got like 20 sheep’s

[kind epoch]

I've just gone and equipped it on everyone. Just in case I accidentally rift autoclaim on the wrong guy

[hexed elm]

do rift bosses count as bosses for the sake of bonus damage to boss buffs

[vapid cove]

• 1 slap

bob joe

[sleek ermine]

Go get that vial as fast as possible

[vapid cove]

Will do

[sleek ermine]

[vapid cove]

Geez

[sleek ermine]

it starts from 50% I think, but because I have some maxed vials its higher from vial mastery

[vapid cove]

Imagine going for level 2 lol another 50 years and maybe i'll get it

Ive got no tries left right now gotta wait like 45 minutes for my daily reset

[tall notch]

Best spot to farm accuracy statues for onyx?

[sleek ermine]

nutto probably

or sticks

[rugged token]

and on ES unless you're going to candy it then vman/sb depending on dr/kph

[tall notch]

Hmmh. Nuttos are giving me a wooping 34 an hour

[sleek ermine]

Sounds about right

[brazen fern]

can i filter money out of dropping for the worm quest?

[sleek ermine]

no

[sleek ermine]

You fill your inventory with stacks of 1 of everything but tails, and then you can loot everything but tails

[rugged token]

yeah accuracy, trapping, souls, and seesaw statues are ES hell or candy hell

[brazen fern]

but the tails will stack then in my inventory ;D

[sleek ermine]

you fill your inventory with stakc sof 1 of EVERYTHING BUT TAILS

[brazen fern]

ah sure ... 5 head move 😄

[sleek ermine]

good luck

[tall notch]

Might candy nuttos and full send ES for the box statues. Then i could use my kachows

Or just save them for w6 statues aswell for extra gains

[sleek ermine]

I would wait for world 6 statues since they are so close

[rugged token]

at this point wait for w6 before depositing statues

[tall notch]

Yeah will do. Cheers lads

[rugged token]

getting a few new ones to onyx then

[leaden karma]

holy, i completely forgot these exist lol

[brazen fern]

trophy incoming

[leaden karma]

i actually got it lol

+1000 gems im ready for w6 upgrades nc

[cyan mantle]

My first lvl 200 character let's go

[rare dock]

how to activate poing minigame

[zealous niche]

Buy the import box, then click on the controller in your garden

[lyric sequoia]

Damn endgame hit quintillion damage, I guess by the logic of the person whose name I forget w6 should not start with 1 quadrillion health mobs

[raven fog]

What does to be discovered mean like are they hidden in the map

[tall notch]

Welp, its done. Made quite a few void bars aswell

[tall notch]

Pretty sure it just means basic portal unlocking, you know discovering a new world when you enter

[raven fog]

Oh i was overthinking it

Cant wait to get 200 stacks in w6

It will become from and end game quest to mud game

[craggy fern]

what to buy before w6) (got cardifier and cauldron already!)

[raven fog]

The candy is good

If u want more candy

For 200 gems

[craggy fern]

even if played the event?

[raven fog]

Yah

The event one

[craggy fern]

golden stopwatch is maybe not worth for 450?

[raven fog]

No

Its a bit too much

[teal lynx]

Event Candies Treats have diminishing returns just so you know
Edit: Confirmed for Gems, speculated for Candies

[raven fog]

Not the worst the for bubbles and all shop

[craggy fern]

yeah that's what i was worrying about

but maybe +2 slab?

[humble garnet]

anyone here wanna join happy hour dungeon party 7/10 rn

[craggy fern]

server?

[humble garnet]

soul 19

[teal lynx]

You could always wait for the W6 limited shop. The best you can still buy of this Shop would be Treats or Gold Stopwatches (but they are expensive), followed by Trophies

Seems like you have a limited amount of Gems and W6 Limited (or main shop) will definitely have something good in it

(God I can't write rn )

[worldly gulch]

what a noob, he only has a limited amount of gems. /s

[craggy fern]

i farmed like 11k for w6

[teal lynx]

Better start saving for W6 now

[craggy fern]

but dont think i can do more

[teal lynx]

Yeah having 10k+ for W6 release should be really good - Either for early progress in Skills or for some nice limited Item (Like a second draconic or maybe some good wings)

[raven fog]

Oh yah even better go buy them

[raven fog]

Wow how

I thought i am doing good woth 8k

[sleek ermine]

You also need money for the new pack thats gonna come 100%

[teal lynx]

Colo 2, 12 daily gems from Alchemy

[raven fog]

I mean how long did it take

[quasi bramble]

im broke need to spend 3k gems per week chips&killroy

[worldly gulch]

120€ login now!

[raven fog]

That doesn’t add up to 24 k

[raven fog]

😂

[teal lynx]

2 Months max
I did 50-100 Colos daily for a long time. So 500-1000 gems

[raven fog]

Oh nice

I got my 8000 in tow to three days

[torn turret]

Can anyone help me with snake jar

[sleek ermine]

Liars, stop spreading info that free2play is possible in this game!

[raven fog]

I have very good method

[raven fog]

It is

[teal lynx]

Where?

[raven fog]

It is really not that bad

[sleek ermine]

I am sarcastiic cmon bruh

[quasi bramble]

spending $19.99 per update is f2p

[torn turret]

Pizza 7

[raven fog]

Last time i farmed king doot took me few days

By few i mean i still don’t have him

[cyan mantle]

Guys I've made my bm push w4 and he's finished should I make him push w5 with my es or no

[craggy fern]

do u have a bubo try to push with him!

[cyan mantle]

My bubonic is far behind everyone else pushing w4

Everyone is pushing w4 besides my es

[proven iron]

Most likely yes, as w5 has a big jump in exp per hour so if you have enough damage you can get a bit of fast levels.
Dont listen to lies about bubo. If you just got to w5 his damage is most likely terrible.

[cyan mantle]

Alr

[proven iron]

Pushing w5 is useless on itself. But its just fast exp

My Best advice is probably drop every thing, and actually put everyone on divinity if you still didnt and develop gaming and sailing in the mean time.

[cyan mantle]

I've gotten to goat in divinity

Which was my goal then pushing everyone

[proven iron]

Well then you probably want to wait for some more divinity % from tributes like golden bars andv bits and go Back All in on divinity. But you need to prepare. Great samples, cooking food for lab exp, maybe even bubbles for lab and divinity exp

Thats probably your goal. Pushing w5 is pretty slow and doesnt give much aside from exp right now. Also probably it will be easier to push after w6 if portal count will be reduced

[eternal wasp]

What everyone does is after getting goat, they start labbing

I really wouldn't recommend pushing with that 8m dmg

[teal lynx]

The real question is why everyone is pushing W4. W5 exp is way better and the only real map you need early is the Genie map to get Elite Classes
After that pushing W4 becomes useless and when you need it for the Onyx Quest you just use a 2 hour candy per map

[cyan mantle]

I'm probably gonna get everyone to at least lvl 150 besides my second es

[cyan mantle]

Ye but also things like catching

[proven iron]

Yes i killed kruk. But half of my characters didnt reach the troll yet.

[eternal wasp]

^

[cyan mantle]

Ye but I'd like my characters to be sort of caught up a bit so they don't completely fall behind

[proven iron]

You will just candy though w4 if you need to when your damage will be high enough to multikill in w4

[teal lynx]

That only requires one person (and this can be your Vman that gets the map by deafult 😅)
And if you want a real person then you get an archer to push it and one mage. Not all 9 chars, that didn't do it yet

[cyan mantle]

The only reason my maestro is pushing is to start vman quest but he needs 7 more lvls

[proven iron]

Last resource in w4 is very far away from troll himself. You need to finish less than a half of pushing grind to get to all resources.

[eternal wasp]

Level up in w5 +_+
He will get all maps unlocked as soon as you do a speedrun anyway

[cyan mantle]

Too low damage

[proven iron]

Most likely maestro still wont be able yes.

I was in the same position

[eternal wasp]

Lmao, yes

[proven iron]

Still 150 lvl is a lot and you need to push his damage so he will be able to farm w5

Or it will take forever in w4

[cyan mantle]

He's at clammies atm

Ahead of basically everyone else somehow

[rugged token]

Only have to do iron bar vial now

[cyan mantle]

Nice

[teal lynx]

You are waiting for W6 before doing Iron?

[craggy fern]

holy only one more just ook a month

[rugged token]

Possibly, since i'm huffing ore cap hopium

[teal lynx]

Same
I mean Lava is smart enough to make it Cap, right?
And maybe Hotair or some other Mod told him about the huge Issue around Bar Vials

[rugged token]

I'm sure he knows it's an 'issue' to some degree but who knows how much of that matters to him at the time being. It's moreso a small percentage of the playerbase that is hardlocked behind it

I'd imagine he'll still add something though he doesn't seem like the kind of developer to just blatantly ignore everything forever

[gilded pond]

Wait, what is the issue? I've been neglecting those vials

[torn turret]

Forge dont go zoom zoom

like a lot other things

[little parrot]

I JUST HIT JACKPOT

[gilded pond]

okay word. Thats why ive been neglecting

[little parrot]

i was trying to hit pruples for 1% drop.. but stupid ball goes into jackpot

yay first jackpot ever

[torn turret]

How were you trying to hit purples

[little parrot]

by clicking rapidly on purple slot and praying to RNJebus

[worldly gulch]

what cards are we doubling for cc farm on bubo?

[south gull]

Congrats

[south gull]

Crystal chance

[worldly gulch]

yea i did that, wasnt sure if its my best bet

thanks!

[lilac bolt]

for maestro i still use himself for stones for tools?

[south gull]

More mobs = more kills = more cc progress

[lilac bolt]

upgrade stones for tools

@teal lynx so luck for all

[glacial venture]

whats the death star talent?

[south gull]

Useless

[glacial venture]

so like bored to death?

ah its that

why cant he call book and talent the same....

or have skill name in discription...

[tidal comet]

what does this bonus do?

[teal lynx]

MSA = Miniature Soul Apparatus in W3 Town - Not sure if that upgrade already gives you a bonus. But there are several bonuses unlocked in Gaming that get better for every wave you reach in TD's

[tidal comet]

strange, i dont have anything, but maybe i need more construction lvls or smth

[teal lynx]

It seems to be "Automation Arm" upgrade 2, 3 or 4

Haven't found the exact unlock order on the Wiki

[tidal comet]

3 or 4, as I already have 2

[warm pike]

Im so tired of trapping I’m about to go into the pet park and put down 6 traps🥶

[pale crag]

Noo drone??

[warm pike]

Does cranium cooking work in killroy?

[proven iron]

Thats... not a lot of xp bonus, honestly. I expected it gives more.

[sour slate]

Trapping drone will make it easier

[warm pike]

Well what did u expect it’s w3🥶

[proven iron]

Its w5 actually

[warm pike]

I have trapping drone😵‍💫

[warm pike]

But it’s not in w5😂

it’s in w3 town🫤

[proven iron]

And considering that i finished w5 and still dont have class or skill xp from gaming.

Its almost w6 upgrades

[warm pike]

Well just keep gaming ig😁

[proven iron]

Yeah just... god knows how much more bits and i'll be there.

[scarlet cypress]

What you define as finished w5?

[proven iron]

I mean i killed kruk, so i would have jewel for w6. Obviously there's still very much to do

I still have a lot to do in w1 and 2

[scarlet cypress]

Yeah I finished w5 and are still 1 digit green bits :p

[pale crag]

Gaming sucks

[scarlet cypress]

And it’s certainly not from neglect

[proven iron]

i guess i'm not going anywhere until i hit nugget bonus in equinox

[scarlet cypress]

Wow that’s a low multiplier for that much bits

[proven iron]

Yeah, i pushed with all that i can

[pale crag]

I had 2k when i reached green bits

After that I got equinox

[proven iron]

Damn you took your time with gaming, lol

[pale crag]

Now it's at 88k

[proven iron]

Im still quite far from nugget equinox

[pale crag]

Its a pretty big boost without that gaming is bad

[scarlet cypress]

Which # equinox upgrade is it?

[teal lynx]

8

[proven iron]

8

Basicly i need shrines 140 and refinery 60

[scarlet cypress]

That’s far away :p

[proven iron]

Sailing also sucks

I need to push rift somehow, but i'm too good at sailing and too bad at damage

[glacial venture]

answer is .......alchemy

[rugged token]

Alchemy/coggy clicker for shrine 140 as well

[proven iron]

No answer is equinox scims actually

Wow i literally tabbed out of the game to write this and my DK somehow killed rift boss. I have no idea how, but hey! Progress! Finally.

[glacial venture]

nope...answer to missing account progess/dmg is ALWAYS alchemy

[proven iron]

Yeah to get x2.5 damage i just need to spend another month. Easy

[teal lynx]

For me the Answer to damage at FallenBards progress seems to be Crystal Steak

[proven iron]

Thats too actually, but it will not be that much of a boost, but significant

[cerulean hemlock]

@teal lynx Thank you

[teal lynx]

Hey A^6

[cerulean hemlock]

I've already been beat up

[proven iron]

But when i max out equinox scims i think i will have enough damage to get 31 rift

Maybe i even have the damage now as i passed the boss.

If my dk will be able to get enough orb kills pretty much

[kind beacon]

So guys i got a question.
For When claiming non-candy AFK gains, also progress one of the following by the AFK time thé Divinity. Dous it work for 2 min of i switch characters😅?

[teal lynx]

It only gives you 2 min of progress, but yes it works

[proven iron]

yes i was wondering if i can break the game with tabbing in and out to gain 1h progress, but its a lie and it only gives actual afk time despite writing 1h

[kind beacon]

Ooh😂

[graceful atlas]

What lvl divinity start getting faster? Currently only at 7-8 with most chars

[warm pike]

Maybe

[chilly siren]

it won't get faster until get have way more bonus

[warm pike]

yippee

[cerulean hemlock]

That doesn't look right 🤔

[proven iron]

The hell

[mortal stratus]

WTH!

[cerulean hemlock]

It's just a visual bug 😮‍💨

[warm pike]

I can’t figure out what it is but this picture does look a little bit off…

[mortal stratus]

Is it edit

[proven iron]

I can imagine probably how it can happen. Its probably citringe map when he abandoned TD

[cerulean hemlock]

Claimed AFK gains and clicked on totem, that's it

[mortal stratus]

Hey guys i have defeated the kruk

[warm pike]

yippee😁

[mortal stratus]

Do you know how much time it takes

[cerulean hemlock]

Which class

[mortal stratus]

Whole 3 hours with my ES

[proven iron]

Wait what

How you even got there?

[mortal stratus]

Means

[proven iron]

When i finally got to kruk my SB literally killed him in 5 sec

[glacial venture]

ES is one of the easier classes for it

[cerulean hemlock]

What was damage?

[mortal stratus]

Bro from how long you are playing

[mortal stratus]

10m-24m

[cerulean hemlock]

..AFK?

[glacial venture]

either didnt have radiant chainbolt or low lvl of it

[mortal stratus]

Means

[proven iron]

Well i only killed kruk like less than a week ago, but yeah, i focused on progression. I imagine you have some determination to steadily push to kruk from the moment you got to w5

[mortal stratus]

Yep

Y bro

You gotcha it

[teal lynx]

A^6 got the damage to beat kruk in 6 hours

[proven iron]

lol

[cerulean hemlock]

i think they were afk

[proven iron]

Well its non linear as the problem is heals i believe

[mortal stratus]

My only aim was to beat it

Yep

[cerulean hemlock]

Also you're giving 'em the impression I am a noob >;3

[mortal stratus]

That's too Correct

[teal lynx]

You are

[cerulean hemlock]

Ohhh you made it heal.........

[mortal stratus]

Otherwise I have it killed it in just 10 min

[cerulean hemlock]

It'll take me twenty minutes then

[proven iron]

Rift 28 boss is much worse than kruk

[mortal stratus]

Bro I was only at 310 level and I haven't progressed on my skills either my just aim was to kill him

[mortal stratus]

Who is going there right now

Now I will make myself stronger

[normal minnow]

hi xaya 👋

hi AAAAAA 👋

[teal lynx]

Hey Rac 👋

[plucky edge]

morning sweet people

[normal minnow]

hey biggy 👋

[teal lynx]

Morning Biggy 👋

[cerulean hemlock]

I know, but it's possible with this level account you know ;3

[mortal stratus]

And I have to do this that much quickly bcz of w6 announcement

[cerulean hemlock]

Hewwo! >;3

[proven iron]

yey, rift 29

[mortal stratus]

Bro you know my main character is too ES

[cerulean hemlock]

Why say bro then?

[mortal stratus]

Hey can you give me some guide to do what now

[cerulean hemlock]

😅

[cerulean hemlock]

#1183482341474172938

[mortal stratus]

What is this

[proven iron]

level doesnt matter, level scaling from level literally doesnt exist. The thing here is that Pro90 just probably slapped noobisect on the poor es and got him going from the moment he hit w5. So he eventually got there through some suffering and pain.

[plucky edge]

@cerulean hemlock why dont you say hello

[cerulean hemlock]

a guide 😛

[mortal stratus]

Oh

[cerulean hemlock]

👋 Ello

[glad crow]

I will.... Hello

[mortal stratus]

No, no suffering at all

[cerulean hemlock]

Yep, just surprised it took 'em longer

[plucky edge]

now im sad :(

[mortal stratus]

I enjoyed too much

[plucky edge]

you can count on your matty bag brothers

[proven iron]

Oh here is the moment of truth

[plucky edge]

you got this

[sleek ermine]

I had red bits with a 11k nugget, my luck was poopoo

[glad crow]

Matty bag brotherhood will never fail

[mortal stratus]

Every time my ES took its 10b health i felt too much happiness

[cerulean hemlock]

Now I'm confused. 😮‍💨

[mortal stratus]

Just at the last moment when the kruk was left with 4b hp the moles make it heal

And one time come when I nearly take it too 100m but then again moles

Hey

I wanna know now on which skill i should focus divinity or sailing

[warm pike]

Catching😁

[teal lynx]

Depends on what you already did. Alchemy probably

[mortal stratus]

Why

[glacial venture]

they dont exclude each other

[proven iron]

Divinity obviously you cant really focus on sailing, it just happens

[pale crag]

Alchemy as always

[mortal stratus]

Ok

And one more question

[mortal stratus]

Cooking or breeding

[teal lynx]

Both

If you really want to decide between them both - Do Cooking

[proven iron]

Just 5m fat monsters and im at 31. Remind me do i need to pass lvl 31 for unlock or reach lvl 31?

[teal lynx]

But Cooking relies on Breeding 😅

Oh I celebrated too early. I believe you just need to get to 31

[cerulean hemlock]

hehe.

[teal lynx]

Not even Amarok Armor

[mortal stratus]

Hey aaaaaa how do I use your guide

@cerulean hemlock can you tell me how do I use your guide

[cerulean hemlock]

Just read the portions that you want 😅

[mortal stratus]

Sorry but I can't get it

[granite grove]

to use the guide, read

like... you have problem on X, you find X section

[plucky edge]

upgrades

[fading skiff]

do crystal spawns count towards portal unlocks?

[plucky edge]

dont think so?

[raven fog]

Ho het lvl 500 on all chars what grind time is good spot

I have 8k

[teal lynx]

20k+
Best to just wait for World 6 at this point

[raven fog]

Too öate for that yah

Bot worth the bubbo grind

[fading skiff]

was just considering whether to take chocolatey chip on speedruns

[cerulean hemlock]

Sadness

[fading skiff]

on the off-chance i were to fully clear a room and be one kill off the next

[scarlet cypress]

That’s probably just gonna slow you down chasing those crystals :p

Unless you can contain yourself ofc

[fading skiff]

ye i guess tping to a different world to clear a full map would be better

[gray pagoda]

I want to see someone use a brand new character on W6 if/when we get more and just one shot a W6 mob to just to see how many levels they get.

[fading skiff]

we should get more with w6

[prisma drift]

I plan to make my 11th character a bubo with w6 beginner gloves

[scarlet cypress]

How exactly does the vman unlocking stages work btw?

[fading skiff]

since it would no longer be possible to have 1 of each class

[gray pagoda]

Maybe not with W6, but probably with the W6 elites

[cerulean hemlock]

Allow me to introduce someone to you

[fading skiff]

wait w6 elites arent coming with w6?

[prisma drift]

Gets every portal that your highest character has unlocked after a speedrun

[fading skiff]

ah ok so w7 will be the new slots

[gray pagoda]

Most likely not. W5 elites didn't come with W5, and elites didn't come with W4.

[scarlet cypress]

Ah nice thx

[cerulean hemlock]

Almost 10m damage with the mutikill% prayer

[gray pagoda]

What? How did you get to that conclusion?

We're still getting elite classes in W6 just not on release

[teal lynx]

We will get new classes somewhere between W6 and W7 - So probably a new slot or two

[gray pagoda]

I hope so... wouldn't want to miss out on the archer (I went double Vman )

[fading skiff]

it just felt like it made more sense not to have guys who werent able to use their skilling talents

i think i meant by w7 at the latest

since not being able to have one of every class seems wrong with family bonuses

by that logic we would need an extra 3 slots

wait thats not how elite classes work

[spark pasture]

any tips on how to do this one?

[prisma drift]

Same way as the previous one but use vman

[fading skiff]

which one for the frogger one is it dk?

[prisma drift]

The aoe abilities can make the tasks harder in w2 dungeon so vman works well

[spark pasture]

I used DK on frogger

[autumn hollow]

Don't forget to destroy the rock before doing any part of the tasks

[glacial venture]

i used dk for snake...if you afraid of aoe just unequip his weapon

[cerulean hemlock]

@prisma drift I dmmed you

[glacial venture]

it was the one with the long row of enemies on a bridge, right?

[prisma drift]

Im afraid of raccoons