#lategame-chat-w5π-w6πΈ
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Over time, when your shinies are leveld a lot, his usefullness will drop significantly sadly, I still think BM is bottom 2
if you mean by active actually looking at screen...then bm is depressing^^
Yeah he gets worse over time but ES is already bottom tier
BM can at least be better for a little bit
BM at very least is not under BB, thats just not possible
why is ES getting so much hate 
Hes a glorified 3D printer
doesn't it literally get the highest damage in the game?
But with the shiny eureka BB is the worst
ES does nothing that you cant accomplish with a few candies or vman samples
Thats a negative chief
Youre sacrificing active gains for things that can be done entirely while afk
Cant candy the current world 
ES is still good for max hit if you push name I guess only 
BB is the worst no matter what. it sucks being active, and is really only useful for the kitchen.
And what does ES need to do in the current world that you cant afk
Are you talking about end game or all game?
SB then? i've seen mostly people posting about their SB with insane damage, likely due to quickslap, speed statues, and the one talent they have
Yeah I'm not saying ES is a bad class I'm saying hes a bad active farmer. Overall he does have his uses
Mostly endgame but kinda all game
I wasnt endgame at all during early W5 and I still just had my archers afk farm hampters
contract just hates es cause he's jealous
ES is much easier to get rolling in damage department for respawn killing, he is very good for people still pushing worlds
he's good for early-midgame players to play though
they should just push with their BM, he teaches you early on to slab things too, just such a nice class 
ES is my favorite but never play him anymore 
If youre so early that you have to push on ES to make progress then you have bigger things to work on than pushing
Its not always about efficiency
Well if we're throwing efficiency out the window then that kinda ends any discussion regarding whats good and whats not
I simply afk everything that way im never missing out
The only other factor for a game would be fun but thats purely subjective
does skilling obols drop from all the alchemy obols or only the last one? i've been buying only the last one for some time but i only have 1 silver mining obol and 1 gold mining obol
The last one doesnt drop W1/W2 skilling obols at all
XD
The first obol pack is W1 only and the 2nd can drop W1 and W2
lol
Third pack is only useful for card drop obols
that explains why they aren't coming
can i not reroll skilling power? i thought i heard something like that once
only on hex and up
the es dislike is crazy 

i wonder what will be in new shop if we get any...water shop i mean
i just don't want more than one good new active class
we'll problably get something, all the empty spaces must have a reson
dont hit on trees
just make characters with good niches
wonder how busted that bubo elite will be π€
lol the skilling obols aren't hard to get if you're buying them from the right shop XD
His true calling 
Yeah the drop rate is actually kinda decent on them. It varies a bit from obol to obol but most of them are around 1/4 or 1/5.
damn programming is a painfull process sometime
Right shop?
The liquid shop has 3 different obol packs each one with different possible obol drops
Yeah, gamba it is
got no choice im afraid
i was only buying from the 3rd shop, which has 0 chance of dropping them lol
Everyone always has a choice in every matter
-.-
What are strong upgrades for pet spice generation i wonder 
I'll get x1.5 spices from gaming relatively soon.
What else can i get?
idk about that man
Prove it 
you cant chose to enter w6 today
Reminder, plz check this out and give feedback if anyone else has ideas!
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if you allways take the easy way, which it more or less implies you get nowhere
did the ES bug with the lightning skill bug blocking the casts of other skills get fixed?
energy bolt does that but isnt rly a bug. if its qeueud up with no mob there then other abilities cant be used. lightning barrage doesnt have that issue as much
ok cool
like increasing div exp for everyone 
and giving extra talent levels 
and that is about it 
decent passive gmush
He's good for rift
Especially the es challenge rifts
hes also good at getting this
im so proud of us.... finding so many uses for this useless guy 
double god, although doot makes that useless xD
@cerulean hemlock i think scoli is on your evil side 
Save slush and mush mini bosses
i forget them anyway^^

uhm so i just read the backlog for the past hour and... is ES really that bad? up until now (mid w5) es felt like (one of the) best classes to actively play. very good damage, coverage, awesome drops even with shit tier drop chance like a rushed w5 player brings.
can u breakdown the reason, im missing it
it has little to* no purpose
You will farm on dk for crystals and stuff, or bubo for alch passive
what purpose does a second siegebreaker bring though, or two dks?
its just another multiplier to sampling and overall income
boss DN
sb is good at forge, damage (gmush), anvil and plunder
dk is dk
bubo is bubo
bb... 
BM is good for breeding
and then there is es
2nd sb/dk/es for their passive talents.
2dks helps with construction, 2 bb is somewhat useless overtime, yes faster ladles first but then becomes meh.
2 sb because 2 bm is fully useless.
2 es because 2 bubo is fully useless.
two dk is not important.... two squires though 
lucky for me ive been saving slush and mutated for very long 
what does a 2nd squire exactly bring? do any of the job bonuses stack for any class? like construction/sailing/divinity exp?
you mean forgetting they exist
i have been saving them for 6 months 
con gains + refinery
construction levels
i wouldnt be suprised if im closing in on that aswell
dont forget 2 DKs makes life easier compared to 2 barbs
doesnt stack, always highest talent for those account wide stuff.
It's not about which is better, it's often what is worse. 2 bubo brings way less to the table than 2 es.
#endgame-gen-chat message Attempt at translating Revenge of the Pickle is DN for bosses. Might include minibosses? π€·
Daln beat you to it, already added >:) although ill post the link too ig
Still love you Scoli x3
Searching on mobile is awful 
probably nice to stock up on colo tickets aswell
dont you have EZ access for those?
never did the w3 one 
chiz aint important tho, just a few colos and your drowning in em
the ez acces ones is much better 
100B before W6?
id honestly wait untill w6 before spending more candy on it
100% gonna add some bonuses making it more potent
well yeh, hoard candy, but like 200+ hours would only need like 40m kph in total, among few alts, could easily hit that 100b before w6
for example the 1.2x all afk gain boost we get from
the fomo pack
40m kph 
I wish dude
40M easy
not yet at least
thats two SB and maybe 1 extra
yeah
;3
with a good setup its very doable with just 2 SB
i said between multiple alts..
10m kph for 4 alts, should be ezpz if your gmush stack is that high
Bigger priority though if havnt done it is leveling all the skills on all alts though
es dmg starts to fall in comparrison to other classes
Where did you find that? π
bubo has better coverage. DK has better respawns, archers have higher dps. BB kinda mid though
BB if combat related nowhere close to mid anymore o.o
its on both the IE atoreview discord and under the bots tips-n-tricks page
active on your bb then. massive gains
if we get bigger books its not gonna matter as much tho
the flavor text? >;3
levels for tools
Ah, I got it
and guess free effy too
would pushing all salts to 1m salt till upgrade be good. or would Lava have to improve printing rates and storage caps
does the extra effiency multi show up in the numbers when placing traps or is it the base amount
void bars seem a little rough, personally i like to have mine running without needing to ever toggle stuff off/on
hope forge gets an upgrade...can only fit around 30k ores in it
void bars is very hard to keep up at a certain point
i doubt we will ever get a forge that can keep up the void need for high lvl nullo
who knows what the new oil effect will be
More or less something per something
slather it on W1 statue npc to make him sparkle more
99.9% chance to never be consumed, 90% chance for double bar, 50% forge speed
check trapping eff in the skills info tab in inv. then when you place traps it lets you know % bonus critters due to bonus eff. doesnt tell you directly how many critters it gives but you get more the higher eff.
ok
but forge itself needs more upgrades too
I just unlocked eldritch artifacts yesterday, but I've only reached the giants eye island. Should I try to keep progressing further islands or go for specific artifacts to eldritch?
same to alchemy p2w options
would still need alot of effort to keep up a high lvl nullo i think
archers do that easily@sacred verge
Wonder if we will get to use the 4th liquid cauldron
How do you farm Hanpsters best? Just realized i need another 2k to get those last 10 Lava Bags π
The first 1000 i farmed all AFK ealier but iam Sure that can be done better
there would still be a cap pr claim if you dont change the forge cap
At least eldritch the arti find one
so the pain will still be present
crystal island delivers today... bubo went from 269 to 274
That's what I'm doing currently, wasn't sure if I should go for another one. Thanks!
thats what i mean with forge needs more upgrades@sacred verge
exactly what i mean aswell
unless the SB skill somehow gets changed
2 mins claims
well hopefully one of those new stamps does some forge magic
2 min claims are old!!!!!!! we need neeeew
go for farther islands if you dont mind waiting. then depending on boat speed you can push for whatever artifacts you want as long as the island time is 2hrs. save the farthest islands for last if they take like a day or just push for opera mask if youre looking for dmg
iq i asked the question bit poorly i meant that is this the anount i will be getting after trap is rdy or will this number get multiplyed by my effiency %
to increase you will need void bars^^
thats what youll get in 20 mins then. i was checking w3 critter drone
I don't quite have 2 hour speed for the islands I have right now. I was planning on using the treasure I got from trying to get the other eldritch artifacts to upgrade my boats.
buy 20 boats first. then just focus on like speed or better captains
Man - I really can't get the molten core knuckler pattern to drop off Suggmas. Even with x13.3 drop rate
i did regulary went back to lower islands to increase speed/value of boats when i was stuck
earlier artifacts are easier and they help get later eldrich too
1/50mil is a lot when base kph is like 5k type thing
What is the best way to unlock the chemical plant evolution in gaming?
kitsune turned on, click research asap all the time
chemical?
if you have sailing gain items from entering W5 and from w5 quests then you should use them when you have 20 boats
This whole game is quantity over quality when it comes to rng
It's only that way because research has big diminishing values
throw stuff till it stick
I take it this captains good
I am running DK which is something like ~5k when active. AFK DK it's 406,000 kph, so I thought I would have it by now
10x 0.1 need less dna than 1x1.0
350%+ afk gains is both quality and quantity
mk is not base
mk doesnt affect those drops, a bigger indicator would be the royal suggma urns, how many do you have?
since those are 1/50k you would hit like ~1k on average when getting recipe.
990 royal urns at the moment, but I've also spent some
Yeh, so getting there for average odds. Then again there's been people with like 3k+ without recipe while others got it in minutes, rng be rng
whats a royal urn
I have not been using Kitsune much, so I'll try that
Rare Suggma drop
(first w5 mob)
forgot ab that
Got mine at 802 R urns with a dr of 18-19ish
so once you start getting top craftable gear (divine armor, bone wep etc) the main focus for increasing damage is mainly alchemy bubbles right?
i havent touched early W5 mobs in a bit. only 130k meteorite drops from moltis
any other common things I need to think about?
statues, stamps
only 3 days away from michelin ranked achievment
onyx statues, rift, equinox, stamps
Is it worth depositing statues before trying to onyx them up?
not really
I'm currently stuck at rift 34 (clearing all mobs before respawn)
and my dmg just aint there xD
currently at about 8.8b
the DR would be irrelevant in that statement btw (since it would affect both the royal urns and the recipe chance, so nothing would change)
Also upgrade/unlock all cooking food
Yeah I'm working on cooking stuff now, just caught up on spice maps for my current level. Need to wait and get higher pet power to try and get the next ones
nice
will i get more of these if i increase my multikill tier ?
only if your name is Lavaflame2
Result of farming 80 biggie hours on mimic map with DK, 20x DR
you stack your orb before kills?
Unlucky on 24 hr candies
slow greenstack with that one xD
Yea i get around 300 kills orb kills before going up to drop eyes
How bad would it be to do on vman though?
with him having 2x loot drop
orb too good?
Anyone greenstacking candy 
is are any one with a caracter that starts with P.
can you come to ballon server 14 desert town and say
1 star, game sucks!
its fore a quest
some dishonest players are for sure gs-ing candy
i got you fren just sec
Post your candy GS here we won't judge 
Probably
i forgot can you meet me in w1 town, this account cant get to w2 town
No judgment just straight to banning π
I never want to flex, but I have a couple
i am done
Greenstacking 72 hour candies cuz im super lucky like that
π
has nothing to do with irl money
Was about to say thiis
how many are you on atm though? π
I had over 9000 at the start of the year
But I used them by accident, I am at 5k right now, so greenstacking is definitely not happening
I aint focusing on it, just said as a fun thing you know, but I have no intention on using gems in game
Sad
Oh i say it for fun often too, but getting close to 30k
If people focused on gem drops you could get a lot honestly
theres always gem shop!
No whaling is forbidden π
Err can you even realisticly whale spices?
I am so fucking ready to whale the fuck out of world 6
you buy the jewels.. xD
i meant you could get the jewel in the gem shop
Technically it is possible with candy partially
Ah lol
Yeah that would be cheaper lol
Question: Do you like my calculation for sailing?
I'm soooo ready for the "infinite stock of 5* rubifiers" and the release of rift rubifier 6* π
theres also outside sources for sailing speed and loot
at what lvl did you guys stop lvling roadkill?? it just goes up slow and slower right so idk when it stops being worth it
Dont need that haha, I still have a couple rubifiers left
to hourly click smth else
Honestly no, also it would be way easier if u had a multiplier for captain lvl instead of placing their current value, less to edit
unless thats not what you are calculating
But either way captains change around often early on, so it's kinda meh.
So do the values on the boats reflect their current captain's bonus?
Same, 22 
But not enough for w6
I am gonna rubify the nightmare version of the boss thats probably it
remind me how to link to multiple gods on ES
You connect to a god, and then use his talent
pins
Or is there a bug or what?=
has anyone actually gotten a sailing miracle chest yet
whats that
a .0001% chest. occult chest is .03%. it seems to give 30x the amount of atrifact chance
I have had occult chests
I mean that would take 2seconds to test yourself tbh if you've already made a calc. but the main thing is IE already shows you all the speed and island distance / 2h distance.
Main thing is with a calc like that and low levels you'd be adjusting so much values non stop, but it would be easier to just add the captains base values and have their level be their modifier to figure out speed etc. so you only need to adjust their levels when they rank up instead of all the percentages.
Just had 2 occult chests
(like right now when claiming)
I'd have to return the ships to do the test tho, killing my current expedition
you only need to return 1 ship to do the test
always has
fookin hell
where the hell is the future content post of today, I am getting tired already
need my copium hopium dose of today
Hey guys how does maoi head work
whats that
Shrine artifact
it does exactly what it says
what does it say
BONUS TEXT
Get bonuses from all shrines from any map! You must be in same map/world to level them up though.
ah that one
Soo like i put my shrine in w4 and on every world 4 map i get bonuses?
and lab is:
If a shrine is placed within town, instead of in a monster map, it will act as though it is placed in EVERY map in that entire world!
Yeah it does what it says, the confusion about "map/world" comes from the lab bonus that makes shrines affect the entire world instead of map.
Im confused af
No, you get it everywhere
just toss shrine into w4 city, as usual, always there, unlkess you have doot.
lab gives you bonus for any zone of that world.
artifact gives bonus to every world.
afk
I think I might get all shinies to level 8 before world 6 release
Hopefully they will be good
were getting skill book ascensions anyways, you can ascend skills to gain 1 max level but you lose the talent points you invested into it
trust me I am in the beta
having put some atoms into skill points bubbles finally pays off

where do yall keep your shrines?
world 5 since the start of world 5
Same
w2 for fractal rn usually w4
That's what I'm wondering
what is best chance at getting 2k kills on killroy?
im guessing specific maps are better, just need to wait for rats or something?
DK and ES are close
yes
you need to actively play somewhat
to make sure you cover all areas as fast as possible
yea makes sense. toss canisters and fart cloud somehwhat manually
so rats are best?
its not like you can chose haha
and no, you use aura manually in good areas, and you move around to spread poison
Because if you just auto your character might not move ever
ah yea i see
Boxing gloves
Choosing between getting an extra couple of green stacks from w4 or doing active bubo on oranges
Or could try to push the bubo to wurms
push to wurms
I think getting bubo to wurms would be best
What would it actually give me
Alchemy progress, coins, etc.
isn't it a worse place to do CC build than oranges?
No, wurms is massive
Also coins aren't really useful it seems
what.
I mean I wouldn't specifically want to farm for coins
Plenty of people do
you would want to
Not sure about that. I myself don't have my bubo to wurms, although I'm working on it. I just know what to do because I see the question get answered a lot lol.
it doenst really matter you probably wont ever farm wurms for coins if you arent worried about it now, and with w6 coming out
I'm sorry W U T ποΈ π ποΈ
Most people I've spoken to on here seem to think coins are basically a byproduct of pushing more important stuff
nobody says that
And that you just get enough of them by pushing alchemy
Whoever said that is spreading misinformation
why do i have on beast master more kills/hour than my elem sorcerer?
why do you think people camp at gmush forever, becasue they want coins
Pushing alchemy is a byproduct of farming for coins
Movement speed, probably. Also more AFK. 79% vs 87%
Are you linked to Nobisect?
Do you have kpk in your talents?
ATM my sampling is held back by anvil production items
Scoli is right, it's the movement speed and AFK
Can't afford the bubbles anyway
they have same talents
Could probably take balance of precision off too
There already is an asnwer
Guess I will move all my top gear from the ES to bubo and push wurms then
Probably won't help in this case, but it would for future maps
Not a bad callout
afternoon friens!
so MVS archer si that broken?
Has nothing to do with being an Archer specifically at that range- ALL classes get more kills AFK with more movement speed. This trend continues until somewhere around 175-200%. Then it may not
I know its only max damage and its only when i hard focus all my cards into damage instead of others, but I broke 10B :3
Nice
That's a big milestone 
Just wait til you see the damage people get with quickslap and extra damage for extra speed % talent π
Road to 10t 
working on it!
big proud of you
Immediatelly getting the X for recommending QuickSlap π«‘
No? I thought movement speed was a huge thing for damage on SB
idk my elem sorcerec deal 200M-1500M and my archer barly hit 50M xd, i dont get why so much gap bettew kill per hours
Wasn't recommending it, I just thought thats what people used
What is the best way to get w4 boss keys?
@faint niche also how should i adress you? 
Quick slap best wdym 
Grind stilted seekers or colo
They're comparing BM and ES. No reason to suddenly switch to QS SB lol
Most of my friends say Navi, and she/her :3
I know. But generally saying QuickSlap = Good damage is often seen as recommending QuickSlap 
alright thank you c:
Oh, mb. Forgot they were talking about BM π
Everyone on the internet is they/them or bro/bruh
I mean... if that's how they take it its kind of their fault π€·ββοΈ
It's not necessarily a bad investment either
Debating if I should make my last 3 change classes, but waiting til w6 to see if that changes. rn still in w2 classes XD
Maybe Bloomy gives us a Movementspeed Buff 
bloomy doubles QS buff
W6 power creep going to be insane
Doubles QS buff but introduces an overflow error if youre too high
Damage reduced to atoms
damage numbers gonna hit the qqq
oh hey i should update my public IE and run it through the review tool!
How about a w6 buff that removes the limitation from ms sigil
Sounds like more atoms per day 
This close, I'd just leave them as-is until we know the W6 classes being released. Subclass swap tokens are much cheaper and always available compared to Elite Swap tokens
True, i plan on buying 3 just in case
im honestly impressed I got them to this in dementia armor
does that one scale a lot faster than the purple one based off MP?
I personally still have a shaman and barb for that exact reason (don't ask about an archer, I fucked up and got 2 Vman
)
I think so, but not 100% sure
is it normal to get a toon stuck at lvl 50 cooking? my BB has been stuck there for quite some time
It's also not a bubble you really want to focus on I've heard
My alt has Squire, Wizard, and Bowman chillin for 8/9/10. We'll see how it goes
Cooking is god awful slow, yes. Pretty much leveled entirely through Black/Divinity Pearls and balloons
best ive done
3 days is impressive. Wish I knew what came next
4 days is after
Im curious if 96 hours is the last one then, or if it keeps going
When is Lava going to post in the content blog? It seems later than usual today.
damn nice @tall horizon surely that wasnt just now?
4 days, 4 days, 5 days?
Na awhile ago
look like thats what his showed
You guys are getting Stars?
be back in a few!
Scoli is your auto reviewer open source?
Not at the moment, no
My max was 13β¦
But I was fully locked in lol
I donβt think Iβve gotten close to that in awhile
Would love to help on it if you ever decide to make it so. I'm a full stack guy
I'm sure you get this a lot, but thanks for the work you put into it. It's a really great tool.
Assuming the chances are literally what are shown, the odds of that happening get extremely small, like 0.00003% for the five days
π This is a learning and experience project for me. Once I get through my initial "vision" for it, I will be making the Github public and allowing contributions
Three cheers for Scoli
bottom right doing me pretty good.
Cheers. Looking forward to it
So, next thing on my list is figuring out how to solo the dungeon. Any tips?
Coin flip
Use coin flip to get the crit horn
Ez pz
Someone gave me this, not sure who. I've heard it's pretty useful.
Am I probably@out of luck until I hit endothelium?
Not sure, I haven't done dungeon in months π€·ββοΈ
Royale / r40 is the big winner
Nope You just need royale
Epic
But you do need coin flip and horn
DK best class?
Does "flippy wippy boo" affect anything? 
if you fail coin flip you just suck for the whole dungeon, right? like in party dungeons. i always get bad rng when with a party
If you're going for the solo equinoxes
Pretty much, unless you get insanely lucky elsewhere, preferably early
rng voucher > coinflip
just my opinion
Just reset
yea i got them already, i just meant in genearl
RNG voucher is pretty damn good
Iβm out of luck then, I donβt play on steam
good to know i wasnt the only one
its always so nice when you can get 2 horns
since we talking about the w1 dungeon how do yall survive the Eldritch Croakers? i always struggle with that one
kill them before they kill you
once i get to that stage im trash
With horn, you should be basically one shotting everything
i prob need better orbs
wait let me checkif i even got horn unlocked
I have it but i just never get it LOL
So, do I still have a decent chance w/out coin flip?
You'll need coin flip and the "start with 4 choice purple"
Neither of these are steam exclusive
No worries
Any chance you can make a steam account, download the game, get the achievement, then go back to how you were before?
Yes
Iβve tried on my families two MacBooks. It says the games unsupported on their hardware
I dont even have this!? how......
one of the purple 4 is coinflip for an orange. -> gets you orange horn. === DMG
Wait so every dungeon run with that i get the horn?!
50% of the time. It works every time
If you win the coin flip, you get an orange with 3 choices (there are only 3 oranges). If you lose the coin flip, you get 4 greys
then you want to stack crit % chance during the dungeon
got itttt
If you get a horn it's a free win for w1 w2 dungeon
(Unless you get really bad rng on frog drops but don't worry about that)
coin flip achievement so easy
W2 dungeon is hit or miss, given some of the tasks. It is pretty easy if you have decent skills and tools though
Except for achievements / equinox, pretty much
FUUUUUTUUREEEEEE CONNNTEENNTTTT BLOOOOOOOG
is what I would be saying if something new was there
You lied to me
Muahhahahha
Don't forget, you'll need to solo W3 dungeon too, for a later equinox task
I def need to unlock this equiinox stuff for sure
Is there a full auto Combo for Molten Bay, in Pet battles?
i think all of them can be full auto afaik
What? Nah, like a full auto Combo when Fighting to unlock it
im mega cockblocked in my progression by the w3 - snowman worship cause i am unable to get more then 30 souls per worship/summon my boulder is lvl 26 and im following multiple guides but all fail me....or i fail them.... can anyone help me?
Level all towers more or use Beastmaster skill to hold em in Place
@hardy elbow yea look at the guide that is pinned somewhere. i full auto'd for all unlocks.
If you have all 6 slots, you can use the standard set to beat every single pet battle. You just have to time when the first shield goes out
takes ages, still mega cockblocked π
Okay Boss Ty!
prob need better levels on towers most likely
Work on unlocking the kraken tower (and the poison / void towers eventually)
i have kraken - my poison is lvl 1 cause i didnt think i use it before boulder 30
weve all been there @brazen fern remember idleon is a marathon, not a race π
boulder 26, freeze 5. stormcaller 10, party 3, kraken 1, poison 1
get the last tower terranola
Boulder is useful, but it is extremely limited on how many enemies it can hit. Work on leveling up your towers, especially party (for range), kraken (for speed), poison (for damage), and void (for removing colors)
im in world 5 pushing but cant unlock w4 crafting cause i cant get 2500 souls....cant really be normal π
I didn't unlock anvil IV until after I beat Kattlekruk. I didn't unlock V until about the time I beat Kattlekruk Nightmare
well maybe its more normal then i thought π
sounds like you pushed to w5 too soon or need to spend more time on construction. get construction obols on your DK for zoom build rate of towers.
What
Im lazy π
My scaling of normal progression is still super out then
man listen when i first played everyone advise to me was just push just push
now look where im at loool
Thats basically what I was told too. Push hard, come back later when everything is easier
All the extra world skills does make the lower progression faster
Waow w6 is out early
Just being part of the crew whoβs been here from the start itβs wild seeing where you guys get up to
Im going straight to W6 when it comes out. Chances are there are going to be huge new multipliers, which will make everything up until now, easier
Just think about how big of a difference the Vman made over Mman. Or equinox. Or any other "small" content change. A new entire world is going to be a lot more than that
so true dont reget pushing to new worlds or content too soon
If you can do it, technically it canβt be too soon
Itβs just whether youβve made it harder or easier based on what you prioritised
U guys think bubo gunna be best class for w6 or hunter/berserker
Vman for Pushing. So whenever you do a Speedrun you can enjoy the Content a second time 
If you want yes
Hunter deserves it. Archer has yet to have a good active class
@pearl cedar agreed
On the other hand archer weapons/talents are so buggy i would rather not
Is there a full auto Way im just not good enought for perfect timing every time and im too tired and frustrated from Pet Arena to learn it
bm and bb will be best
I feel like I should have passed 3m nugg by now
Rolls possible: 62.1K-98.4M
Nuggets since upgrade: 3152
I would check out the guide, there are a few different setups. I am at work right now, so I don't recall
Iβm a certified lucky ducky
You should but God looked and said "not now"
I got 2 horns, no coin flip
Very nice! now do it again for W2 and 3
After a certain point it's what you expect if you know how to play dungeon o_o
maybe he's saying 3m -> 100m is coming

Next nugget, 1% increase
im glad that wasnt a little bit higher got nervous lol
5 people to dance with in world 4
i am in peanut 1 server
Isn't there a channel for that? Like #party-finder-πͺ
Does anyone else despise the w5 skills? The amount of good RNG needed is absurd. Been farming eldritch fury wit weeks with no luck. Every single boat is going there. Golden hampters galore. No eldritch fury.
W5 skills are extremely RNG based, which is frustrating. W6 is supposed to be better
i also dont like that you can not use the ballons or candy fore those
I hope so
I love w5 skills
w6 with no rng? hahaha
Its also weird that 2 of the 3 skills are shared between everyone
I believe the quote was less, not none
hopefully tho it is way better
its understandable it just what keeps the grind going
oh im hearing we can use candys in w5 after w6 release?
That is what was said
Best thing about w5 in question:

Divinity sucks
I like it. Made skill mastery easy
oh gotcha yeah thats going be helpful
Farming and thieving sound like they're gonna be shared as well
true
Closing in on mammoooth tusk vial, only 5 more to go after that for 100% snakeskin 
man i agree being stuck on divinity sucked
You got green fish ready for w6?
Hell nah Iβm nowhere near that state of the game π
Donβt even have em gsβd yet
red stack 
Got a lot to do lol, just tryna get to 27 maxed vials for now while also doing w1 eclipse w the rest of my chars
You don't have your Vman printing monster mats?
I do but only the ones for refinery, havenβt gone back and resampled 
Was before I started taking vials seriously
Thatβs been the pattern of prior worlds. Latest is candy banned, so when w6 is released no candy w6, and w5 is no longer latest so candy away
does it make sense to try getting lucky lad on beginner by crystal farming? been doing it with x12dr for a couple days but it seems long
I think red ore is best for that
That actually makes sense so w7 release then w6 can use candy hmm nice
dont wanna finish w6 too soon haha
Technically, tropical tree has higher chance, but then you miss out on the sweet dreadlo mining xp
how long would it take on the ore indicatively?
depends on ur luck. use larger candies, make sure you have 100% efficiency, max ur skill speed, afk gains and drop rate
Assuming you have 100% chance to mine, and stack up as many drop rate and speed that you can, I've seen people say anywhere between 12 hours and 9 days of candy
you could get it in 1 candy could be a whole lot of candy
Oh, and AFK rate, definitely. Good point circ
Which coliseum should i invest my tickets in?
depends what you want
oki thanks, gonna see if i got 100% chance
2 for kebabs/candy, 3 for chiz keys (and the gem farm), and 4 if you want sanity and tiny bits of ladles/eggs
Sanity?
spending tickets wise + it's the most braindead
2 you have to turn off midas and still deal with the crafting nodes, 3 has multi layers
and fastest, can do 3 or 4 colo 4s depending on ur orb lvl
We play idleon, there isn't an ounce of sanity between any of us
4 is just a straight line, you turn auto on for dk and just vibe
but it's by far the least ticket efficient
Until W5 colosseum
Think its worth it to craft troll+ armor for all my characters or just the ones I main (DK/ES/Vman)
why wouldn't you want it eventually? stats = better samples
but it's ok to focus on your main few to start with
Just askign as I am almost done with the gold twine farm
and the tools they need for samples
should I work on getting the best armor for all of my characters or only a few of that armor and just swap it between characters as I need it (since some might just be skiilling and may not need it? idk)
It would be cool to have a feature where you see all your characters armor at once and can swap between on one screen
at least toolbox shows you
i would craft it for everyone
the faster you get that the easier it will be in the future
I have a full set of magma on everyone, and a set of kattle 
True, just was unsure if we will be upgrading kattle to the new armor or not
i have full kattle on everyone and a magma for log samples
lava "confirmed" that it will be "kettle"
Fr?
Hugs tyyyyy
ye
Classic lava
Hm tru
yo here i am
ok so 3 more gold twine then go farming for my next task, the shoes
wtf bro got summoned
Yeah, you're famous now 

Kettlekurk
sorry but that was just a typo, he actually meant 'KATTLE' referring to the w5 boss armor
Exactly 1 difference between the new sample and the old one: VMan surpassed the chopping level of the sampling bubo

Vman op plz nerf
nono he meant kettle as in the w6 gem shop item
Do you think he'll take troll out of the build path for magma?
it's pretty troll to leave it in there
Haha
If I have the Moai Head artifact unlocked, does that mean the Shrine World Tour bonus in lab is obsolete?
No you still need shrine world tour to be able to level the shrines anywhere in the world you have them in. Otherwise itβs just map but you still get bonuses everywhere
no future content today? π¦
ive been extra lazy actually clicking the later constellations since all are currently unlocked. Is there a specific bonus to activating all constellations or is leaving them kind of whatever for now
since i dont need more "constellation unlock points" per se
maybe hes working late
a man can only hope
Did anyone get new posts in future content channel?
When w8 drops are people in w6 gonna look like how people in w3 look rn?
How will it be worse?
Amazing Grammar!π
Thx


Because that's the nature of these games. You get exponentially stronger the further you are
Oh so the difference will be multiplicative and not additive?
Gg
What were the last 3
Hmmm...my cooking experience is abysmal
no statues 
What are yalls?
Red Salt?
Technically since Iβm in w5 does that put me on the same level as you persons?
No u need farther progress
I'm getting like 2k --> 4k per hr....
I am w5 but not worms or 1tril damage
But like if I asked you what world you were in there is nothing you can say but w5 or under so technically Iβm one of the best
I am in w4 atm
I basically have a trillion dmg
there it is
Not w5 I got w4 afking
Js a bit under
I thought broken stuff
Bout time lol. The map looks pretty cool.
you look pretty cool


|| Your art of a cute yellow radish is mine Lava ||
How's the grind been going for you Biggy?
im at 200 gs and now im activing bm
Wow, that's awesome
trying to get everything to level 5 
How many do you have done so far?
How to get shinies?
im missing like 20
Level 40 breeding I think
forty is wild I got like 12
Out of what, 68? That's pretty good.
Is it possible to sample leaves?
19 to be exact
No
You have to actually do the skill unfortunately
Rip
or farm the world's crystals
leaves mostly come from crystals
Gotta get some for that mage talent for chopping eff
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I usually ignore them cause y'know... they're leaves
Yea, I only noticed today that I only have like 11k green leaves lol
from farming power statues for 2 toons
I haven't done active BM yet... too much other stuff I'm focusing on rn lol
understandable :D
I haven't unlocked all the pets yet, so not really a priority rn
I did get a HUGE bump in progress yesterday though
Went from being stuck on Cracking the Kruk 3, due to characters not reaching the mole map yet, to killing Sacrilegious Kruk yesterday to finish number 9.
Now I just need two merit points for the knuckle recipe, but again, not a priority because I don't have the suggma recipe yet
I'll probably go for atom cost reduction instead (also sorry for the multiple long texts)
hello everyone i am back
Hi Back
π
icy guess what
snail lv 25?
well well well
Congrats!
hey! im looking for some advice, i'm pretty low on damage and i know there are a lot of ways to increase it but idk where to start. I'd really appreciate any advice, ty in advance https://catastrope1.idleonefficiency.com
my 200 GS is schedule for in 3 days i think
If you wait a week longer it'll be trivial
where is the fun in that
194 4ight now, 195 in 500k statue, 197 in 1.1mil statue, 200 if i finish those crafting stuff
so i need my red pot to be farmed enough, and perhaps with my dkbeans i might have enough for 201 at slurpin herm crafts
17/30M for average str pot
@plucky edge you gonna do active BM now that GS are done ?
just headsup, shiny rate pets are most likely really bad time investment beyond lvl 6 or 7
at least I have now stopped lvling them
Do I save my 72 hour time candy(from arcadeπ) for when w6 drops to get some extra portal kills for w5 portals or js use it now
Boss battle list?
what?
Ohπ΅βπ«
no candy in w6
for w5 portals look at what I saidπ₯Έ
Yeah use on w5.
oh yeah
Iβm js looking forward to limited shop reset atp
I have 5 infinite star signs, but only 4 of them come from breeding... Where other infinite star sign come from???
What's considered high tier damage for a Void nowadays?
1 base?
like 600 infinities atp
What is an infinity???
hes trolling
You never know with this game, that could easily be a thing.
Have you considered the flex of double-digit level pets, though?
a couple billion or trillion are considered good
I'm sitting at around 47 billion, a trillion seems a long way away, thanks!
yeah, I am still gonna lvl shinys like stupid now, but most people care about the progress they lose, so its good knowing that higher shiny rate pets dont really do anything
it will always get better im at no point where i would consider it "high tier"
Your bubbles must be insane
which?
All of them lol
they are bad compared to most guys here tbh
but for the average joe its probably good
I wish the leaderboards were back so I could actually see what the top peeps were doing
is choco chip coming back next week? i remember it'll come back soon
28th or so
oh hope i don't forget it with w6 coming around
idleon toolbox has a leaderboard as well as a player made one
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but not everyone is on there
yeah its opt in
most endgamers arent i believe
Can't let people see where you find the bonuses 
@zinc torrent https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=BiggyThePanda
if you wanna check my bubbles but dont take them as recommended im not doing smart decisions with my atoms 
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hey guys im just new what divine
Them bubbles are bonkers
there's an explanation in pinned messages, #lategame-chat-w5π-w6πΈ message
wait till you see endgamer bubbles
I just need to keep pushing my samples, simple as. Thanks for the info
yeah samples are always nice
i couldnt find
my exp gaΔ±n on divine 1 every hour
so thats really low
is there any tip for make it more
finally done it
Gotta spend money to make money.
It gets exponentially faster over time with more bonuses from the other W5 skills and better praying styles at higher Div level.
i see
what's the website where you can search for sources of specific stats again?
Search every bonus in Idleon!
that's the one, ty
@plucky edge hey sry something came up, you wanted me to guess something? what was it
the 200 gs we already talked about
oh yeah true hahahaa

all rolled to have +1 right?
yeah
good
the "while active" cards are the most important things for leveling, right? and grind time bubble ofc
those and crystal spawn cards
friday is my last day off i hope its eu friendly 
Maybe we get a cartography skill that unlocks new maps in old worlds.
Delayed by 24 hours coming up
Due to iOS being weird, nobody gets access for another week while thatβs pending
where do i find the green mushrooms that i need for the picnic quest
They appear right in front of you when you accept the quest
Forfeit it and reactivate by talking to the basket blobulyte again
oh, ok
Sounds more like a #newplayer-chat-w1πw2β³ type of question though
is there an MK checklist?
Thus has some stuff on it, except deathnote should be in the per tier cattegory
ah its probably meaning upgrading it in construction
nvm then
thanks i guess ill just try to run this for now then
just got to W5, is there a TL:DR on what to do here?
Pins
this one?
Yup
Also
W5 is the ideal time to backtrack and do stuff like this to name a few:
https://imgur.com/c1RhPXA
Do you have doot?
World 5 Doot companion owners:
https://imgur.com/kXkZfj9
Whatβs the max achievable drop rate at the moment?
That infographic is very useful
Like 22.56 or something crazy like that
Honestly may add it to my repository
Over 25 is achievable
26+ on dk
I kinda rushed W4, so I havent even really done a lot of W4
fomo keychains have to come back, I want to get to 25DR on DK too 
like I've only been able to unlock one lab gem node, ive basically only gotten to cabbage, its lvl 4, and for pets I'm still on dessert pets
Anyone able to look at my IE and point out what Iβm missing?
Iβm definitely missing some of the arcade, a bit of the equinox and some plunderous kills, but it doesnβt look like itβd add up to another 10 DR
should I prioritize W5 or should I prioritize W4?
you can combine lab and divinity leveling once you unlocked goharut
thats a god presumably/
Bit of both, sailing and gaming arenβt hard to keep going, goat helps with the lab/div split
yeah the 5th god i think
so i wouldnt worry about lab until you have that unlocked and then just combine both grinds
been putting enough to at least get 3x refinery speed + no bubbles left behind
Itβs rerolling my obols..
Dammit
Anyone know why my drop rate drops over a full point when I login after reset? Pretty frustrating to lose a whole tier
Weekly bosses
do divinity stuff gets effected by skill efficiency? the afk tab just says 0%
Donβt believe so, the minor god link is improved by div level though
Things don't affect divinity unless they specifically say they do. Only exception is biggie hours card and 2x afk claim chance for exp
There is no divinity skill efficiency, so no, + skill efficiency does not help in Divinity
Making progress thanks to ducky's recomendations. Trying to get 1bil before next friday. I feel like I have overlooked something though that will push me right to 1bil. Might just be alchemy or doot..
Alchemy, stamps, cooking for sure
Gear, starsigns, chips, other chars deity links, big bubble, food, golden food
Vman skills
Was this a response to me? Do weekly bosses affect drop rate?
Lots of things that we canβt tell from that picture
They do if you have the star talent
Do you often spec your talent points into things without reading what they do? π
Haha I know. I just wanted to share my success since two weeks ago. I was at around 500mil.
No I just forget sometimes the immense complexity of this game
You seemed to be asking what you might have overlooked
Hence why I frequently ask questions in here
Well you all gave some good suggestions to check on so I'll do just that! Thanks π
I was only teasing, that's why I used the π at the end. Asking questions is a great way to learn.
Hello w5 chat
I'm slowly inching closer to my vman
Only a few more mobs in w3 to go through
If another character is linked to purrmep can you link to it using es 2nd link?
Have Doot?
I'm gonna guess not
I would do a primary link to Arctis and a talent link to Harriep
Nope I don't not
Alright thanks
Is there any point in putting more than 9 talent points in it?
Read the tooltip that pops up
More levels in = bigger bonus
Every 10 points is the same god
quick question, is there a "best" setup for trapping?
Use the drone to place the traps. BM places any traps you want critters out of, and vman with the skill transfusion active places any traps you want exp out of
i mean in terms of what critters you want, and what traps to use
Make sure you have the shiny prayer active on whoever claims the traps or whoever you log into first if you have the auto traps
Do you transfusion when placing or when collecting
place, everything is determined during palcement except shiny chance based on looting
Which critter varies depending on your goal. A few for keeping refinery active and the rest all in on the next vial is standard
After youβve maxed the vials some go for an even spread
Nature = XP setting + transfusion ON VMAN
Royal = Critters, from BM
Royal traps are best for critter gains, nature for exp
Critter type has too many variables.. whatever you need
Well when you have auto trap collect from rift don't you have to login on bm for max eff? I been logging in on dk for construction but I'm getting way less shinies
Yeah, but if you have the shiny prayer active on that DK itβd help
Just said, shiny chance based on looting
rest like regular critter # and xp based on placement
Most of your shines come from the prayer enabling more than one shiny per trap
Not just most but basically all..
Shinies are capped by 1 shiny per trap, no matter the time, except for the multiplier from the prayer.
It gets to the point that the extra shiny chance from BM is useless since you have 100% chance of shinies with prayer per trap anyway
Oh so even though I placed the traps on bm with the prayer I still gotta put it on dk if I want to login on him?
shiny critter prayer should just be on everyone always
As we said, shinies are calculated on trap claim not on placement
Eff and exp on placement, shiny on claim
Well for placing traps on vman for xp u said to use transfusion, place them from trap drone?
Yeah
Except you can place for other chars too from drone
So give them the vman exp treatment if you want
Alright sounds easy enough, I finally got enough salts I can upgrade my traps, ty
5 down 10 more to go... only 3 passively though we will see...
For this do i need to get the cape on each character?
seems like that is the answer we were looking for
mhm
When I beat the W2 town boss, my damage went from 10.3b to 13.4b
What talent or whatever causes that?
my friend who I got into idleon just pulled doot in front of me, while I remain dootless, its all joever
its the misc option




