lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[heady plover]

Doot is from the pet garden in W1 (it is like .3% chance)

[fallow wave]

oh ive been using rift slug bc i have everything but doot, ram, and custard

[cerulean hemlock]

Ah, now wonder

[heady plover]

I am sorry to hear that

[cerulean hemlock]

Also all buffs are automaticaally applied

[fallow wave]

from doot?

[tepid obsidian]

from all companions

[heady plover]

If you have the pet you get the buff even without them following

I got my bad boi sheepie following me

[fallow wave]

oh actually??? i thought it was whatever was equiped

[cerulean hemlock]

#1183482341474172938 This guide might help you!

[fallow wave]

alr thanks

[cerulean hemlock]

Let's ignore the fact it took me two years to make it ;3

[heady plover]

Should I first try and get lvl 1 for each atom? or are there any that I should hard focus? Li seems pretty nice

[cerulean hemlock]

Do level one on H, HE, and LI for now

Everything should be level one

[fallow wave]

it looks very detailed lmao

[cerulean hemlock]

Yep, it'll be more than fourty four pages soon enough!

I'll have to edit a section soon

[fallow wave]

oh how do i get atom collider? ive just seen the name in the achievements

[cerulean hemlock]

W3 top row, final building!

[fallow wave]

wait what map

[cerulean hemlock]

W3 town >;3

Construction table

the top row

😛

[fallow wave]

oh hold on

oh its one of the things that i need to build?

[pale crag]

Its the last one

[cerulean hemlock]

it's lategame content :3

[fallow wave]

oh thats going to take forever, i have had my stuff working on it for like 2 weeks and its 1/50mil

lmao

[cerulean hemlock]

You rushed through worlds, I presume?

[heady plover]

I know I can probs wiki it, but I have discord open atm. What is tot?

[fallow wave]

yea i rushed from world 3 to world 5

[cerulean hemlock]

Total

[fallow wave]

this is my best players armor and stuff

[cerulean hemlock]

Hey! That's not bad at all!

[pale crag]

Not bad tbf

[paper sail]

Means the shrine is worthless 😉 If you already have 150% total AFK, it gives you nothing

[opal kernel]

How do you unlock more super bits stuff? I only have the bits per achievment thing.

[paper sail]

You just buy them with bits

[cerulean hemlock]

😢 Lava's that mean?

[opal kernel]

they are all locked tho

[cerulean hemlock]

You need to branch out

start with unlocking the ones avaliable first

[pale crag]

Scoli there was an issue with auto review it was showing my old progress idk if it's intended or smt

[opal kernel]

i upgraded bits per achievment a few times but its now to expensive. Thanks for the info.

[cerulean hemlock]

It's a temporary bug atm I think

[pale crag]

Aha okok

You can just copy paste raw data to fix it

[paper sail]

Niko broke the "expected progress" part of Pinchy earlier, but I thought he said he hotfixed it 🤔 If you are still having issues right meow on a fresh lookup, let me know

[pale crag]

Ook thanks for the bot

[heady plover]

Do I avoid using atoms on anything besides getting lvl 1 of each element?

[cerulean hemlock]

For your stage, yes

You'll want a steady stream later on

[pale crag]

You can upgrade it when you have enough atoms

[heady plover]

Okie dokie thank y'all

This seems like a BS upgrade. Do I just pretend it doesn't exist?

[pale crag]

Don't upgrade it

[paper sail]

Just upgrade it when it is the cheapest/fastest building

[chrome tiger]

It's pretty cheap so you get some rift bonuses

[solid jolt]

I got a new companion after 5 months!

[snow light]

what is the max portals that someone has right now?

[pale crag]

Soo guys should I focus on getting my skilling bubbles to 85%

[solid jolt]

Bloque my beloved

[pale crag]

That's a lot of months

[solid jolt]

Yeah

[cerulean hemlock]

Legally or non-legally?

[pale crag]

https://tenor.com/view/peppo-gif-27351072

[cerulean hemlock]

Non-illegally then! I think people have only managed to hit... W3 Thermisters..?

[pale crag]

Ya i managed to hit thermister

But no w4 or w5

[paper sail]

Anti-non-pro-crime

I want to say I saw legitimate mid to high 60s? Not sure I ever looked past the first month or two though

[pale crag]

So near 65

[heady plover]

I am not an elite gamer, this one is gonna be a challenge

[pale crag]

Its easy if you 1tap it

[heady plover]

That is fair

[gilded pond]

Yeah, this is probably one to sit on for a little bit till you up your dmg

[sage latch]

any tips for lava skull challenge in rift?

not sure what to auto on without just wiping the whole screen :(

rn im just trying to get it on BM while active

[autumn hollow]

Using something with an active respawn, like Bubo or ES, would be better. You want to kill fast, but not too fast that nothing survives, or else you'll lose the progress

Even a SB would be better than BM

[sage latch]

yea bubo sounds good as well

ill give it a try

[south carbon]

you just need to leave its there and come back late

[sage latch]

i just think my ES is a little too fast cause i didnt farm rift for a while

[snow light]

eh why not both?

ive seen as high as 51 but i cant seem to get there

[jade folio]

from what i heard, non-legally it was in the 80's? but have no proof to back it up, legally, i am hitting like 35-40

need to up my damage

ohh yeah, is the luck from quest chungus base or total?

[paper sail]

Seems to be base

Just point 1 point in and got 9, not 4

[jade folio]

Thnx, honestly thought it was my lack of sleep playing tricks on me

[autumn hollow]

Do you guys think it is worth it to resample this close to W6 release?

[vagrant mountain]

you're probably gonna resample again when w6 drops

[paper sail]

Not unless you sample is already going to be 2-3x what your current sample is

Otherwise I'd just wait 🤷

[autumn hollow]

I did just get a major upgrade in tool, but I am not sure it is going to affect it quite that much

[vagrant mountain]

you can just check by setting up to sample and checking afk info and multiply your afk amount by 0.9

[round drift]

How long did it take you lot to get 100k ladles?

[paper sail]

Uhhh week? I already had a bunch saved up though

Maybe 2 weeks

[jade folio]

Wonder if someone will gs silver pens or ladles one day

[paper sail]

Given enough time 🤷

[snow light]

kinda wish you could save up charges of speedruns just like 2 so that you can have one focused on going as far as possible and the other to sample as much as you can

[autumn hollow]

Looks like 24.2m (from 14.7m)

[vagrant mountain]

you might as well resample ngl, you can probably get to 100m or 200m sample by the time w6 drops if you just resampled now

[snow light]

whats a good amount of Schow to get ready for that 100k ladles?

[vagrant mountain]

at least 67

[snow light]

cool

[jade folio]

please, go outside, touch grass, embrace the light for a brief moment

[vagrant mountain]

[tall horizon]

plenty of grass in idleon

[snow light]

betcha he has a GS of that too

[sage latch]

what's a good active class for farming pop obols

[snow light]

ES

[vagrant mountain]

imagine not having a GS of grass

[snow light]

me im imagine

[jade folio]

a lot of grass but not enough ass

[snow light]

on a journey to onyx all statues right now sadly

[vagrant mountain]

[sage latch]

I feel like w6 is gonna introduce a golden stack for 1bil loool

[jade folio]

I still got awhile to go, but im focusing on fixing my alch rn

[vagrant mountain]

alch is love alch is life

[snow light]

you and me both

[jade folio]

Alch feel....broken? Or not fully thought out, but i get that feeling in a few places in this game tbh

[snow light]

where is that alch chart? everything leads back to alch

[vagrant mountain]

let's just say this isn't a triple A game...\

[jade folio]

When in doubt, just alch

If it was a tripple A game, we would have to buy W2+ as a dlc

[snow light]

each world drops a new pack

kinda the same

[autumn hollow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1204115168855064637/image.png?ex=65d38ea3&is=65c119a3&hm=50782f2ff82fd2b1fad10bdb0bcc407864b2be58618704d546a995bac7716646&

[snow light]

thank you

[tall horizon]

not broken enough to be AAA

[jade folio]

pretty much, but lets be honest, the pack would be an additional thing you would have to buy after you bought the W2 electric boogaloo dlc

[zealous niche]

We need more bugs!

[jade folio]

Pretty sure we will get some in W6 for catching

World 8 bug is just a glitched out mess like MIssingNo. from Pokemon?

[autumn hollow]

Anyone have a good guide for stamp upgrade priority? Or is it basically, upgrade whatever you can carry / afford

[vagrant mountain]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

upgrade whatever you can carry / afford when you dont have discounts

[chrome tiger]

doot mush is the easiest of the "hard" super chows?

seems like maybe a week of active or something

i would make one tweak to the stamp upgrade order i followed, and do carry cap much more before crystallin

[vagrant mountain]

probably the hardest, it is more like 1 month of active

also, crystallin stamp is one of the only sources of crystal spawn so it's definitely worth to max it asap

[chrome tiger]

it's just much easier to max crystallin once you have more storage

carry cap that is

[vagrant mountain]

just use vman, he gets free carry cap

[paper sail]

For anyone playing actively, crystallin is 100% best stamp

[jade folio]

but what do you consider max on crystallin?

[chrome tiger]

as much as you can carry

[vagrant mountain]

full reduction is like 2.4b at 250 which is currently not feasible

[paper sail]

Nobody is realistically reaching 260 on the current patch. Just can't carry that much

[chrome tiger]

if your anvil level is very high, you can get to 250 before investing a lot in the glass shard one, but i had to candy some anvil levels to get it

[vagrant mountain]

just craft coldseeker bullets for ez levels

[chrome tiger]

and actually side track and get more glass shard levels now that i think of it

[jade folio]

well at least i have a goal then, i left mine at 180

[paper sail]

Don't undervalue Matty Bag either

Gives roughly the same value as Mason Jar, just toward materials only. Has the benefit of requiring absolutely 0 forethought

[jade folio]

....am i going to find out that my 250 matty isnt good enough?

[chrome tiger]

390 is mine

[paper sail]

You're gonna need 310+ matty to get to 250 crystallin

[jade folio]

damn....i was trying to get majority of my stamps around 250ish before i began the push to 500

time to go back then

[chrome tiger]

this is the last one i need to break into w6 waiting room on autoreview

[rare verge]

So i have my atom i have it set to 1050M as the limit, but its not getting me any atoms. Why is that? (I have 1050M already for oak logs)

[chrome tiger]

check that it's on

and it only happens when you exceed 1050

3d prints will happen once an hour

[jade folio]

mines off and i still get my atoms when i exceed the 1050 cap from 3d printing

[chrome tiger]

ah yeah, true

probably just need to wait for the 3d print timer

[cosmic temple]

any tips for poing lag? ive tried low pop, low entity maps but its still insufferable

[chrome tiger]

poing is cursed

imo

[paper sail]

empty out your garden too

[vapid warren]

If my ES links to Harriep through the skill Polytheism, do all my characters still get the minor link bonus?

[snow light]

where was the gem sheet for daily/weekly/monthly gems?

i know colo and bosses give good gems as well

but i just wanted to see what i can do before i start grinding that out

[wispy sapphire]

does arena with monolith take forever?

[shy flame]

apparently if you have a prayer on that modifies enemy hp it makes arena just slow to a crawl

[jade folio]

World 2 colo only though, others are fine 🤷🏼‍♂️

[shy flame]

Huh, odd. Only thing I knew of that slowed down arena though

[jade folio]

From what ive been told, the extra health affects the skilling resources that appear in that colo making it take forever to hit that next wave

[zinc torrent]

I JS GOT W5

[heady plover]

Has anyone ever got through W5 doing a void speedrun?

[wispy sapphire]

divinity time

[zinc torrent]

@wispy sapphire ?

[heady plover]

Divinity is a skill that you need to sit on an alter for long periods of time

[wispy sapphire]

in the pins of this channel it will explain, look for "NEW TO W5"

[zinc torrent]

Dude I needa get more money

[heady plover]

(unless you have Doot then you just sit in lab after getting them to lvl 2 divinity)

[zinc torrent]

How I do that's

How I get more moneys

[lilac anvil]

Guh

[shy flame]

Usually I email someone and let them know I am the prince of Nigeria

Simplest way to get money is to kill mobs, I think gmush kills add to money? there's plenty of modifiers, like with anything else, but I've never really thought about it

[dapper prism]

gmush is big modifier (from lab)

Especially since its in its own group

[vapid warren]

:/ hmm, just enabled the star sign that gives me 4% crit and it did nothing >_>

[jade folio]

have you got the star doubler equipped & did you enter a new map after making the change to see if it updates?

[vapid warren]

I did

Entered gem shop as well just as an extra refresh

[open lava]

5 more levels on es

[vapid warren]

I don't have the star doubler equipped, dont have enough for this char

Wow thats really awful to read sorry for the terrible screenshot lol

[shy flame]

this is why no change on an infinite star sign

[vapid warren]

Oh you have to have the doubler....

[jade folio]

When you have a starsign as infinite, its already applied

[heady plover]

How do you get more infinite star signs?

I have like 5 or 6

[shy flame]

pets

[jade folio]

shinnies

[vapid warren]

Shinys in breeding

[heady plover]

ah, fun

[jade folio]

Infinite star-sign's become passive and you dont have the negative effect apply, but you need to have the doubler if you want to make use of the signs you have equipped, otherwise it does nothing

25 more lvls to go

[shy flame]

only character left to 500?

[jade folio]

The first

[shy flame]

[heady plover]

Is it set up to where the squirrel is a specific star sign? etc?

[shy flame]

no, they unlock in a set order

[heady plover]

Oh so if you get multiple of the same shiny, does it give multiple star signs?

or is it per unique one

[shy flame]

No, it levels up faster

[jade folio]

level these guys up for infinite stars

[shy flame]

shiny lvl 9

[jade folio]

my highest is lvl 10, but i left him in breeding for months when i left for a bit, so it was before the whole BM craze

[ocean fox]

FOR GS claiming cache is ES or DK better

(the sand castle one)

[shy flame]

tbh I just assume if it doesn't drop from crystal ES, if it does DK

[jade folio]

Dk is good for crystals, but es is good for monster drops, maybe try a test of both and see which gives you better results?

[shy flame]

ES should be better unless your DR set ups are just wildly different. Or if it's just 24/7 lagfest and you desync an hour for every hour you active, that uh, that'll slow things down a bit

[jade folio]

You know, my desync and crashes haven't happened as much as of late...actually hasnt happened once the past week...was there a update or something?

[knotty helm]

Lab grind is so zzzzzz

[gilded pond]

Realistically what is the lowest dmg my vman should have before attempting nightmare kk?

I'm at like 4b, and it will take quite a while to get to 88b like the pinned post

[vapid mural]

[knotty helm]

Is there anything I might be missing? Because lab grind is long so might as well make it slightly shorter.

[sick sentinel]

20-30B is fine, but expect a 25-30 min active fight

W6 is bound to bring more dmg sources too so if you can't muster b4 that can wait a tad

[gilded pond]

Trueee. I just really want the kk scarf, but I can't beat the last kk task because of vman

[sick sentinel]

Eclipse skulls, alchemy, cooking, artifacts, chips, booked fist talents, gear, gold foods and all that jazz is good to work on for vman dmg

[gilded pond]

The artifacts grind is not going in my favor

[honest spoke]

Green alchemy speed damage is good for vman

Maybe eclipse w1 at least

Think I had 50m damage when I did it

[vapid warren]

Is the 3rd buff from the health box in Post office "faster respawns" for the player? or monsters....

:O For real!?!? wow. rip

I assumed player this entire time, thought I'd finally just ask

[rapid shale]

no it is player respawn

[vapid warren]

Oh...

Lol rip. Well I'm not surprised cuz It sounds like player respawn, but so unspecific

[jade folio]

Guess i didnt die enough to notice

[vapid warren]

Or didnt kill monsters enough

:P

[jade folio]

Damn, you caught me, im actually still in W1 on my first character👀

[unreal yacht]

Oh man dude i just returned back to the game im like so lost im fresh w5 any vids or places i can go to catch up?

legit forgot everything haha

[jade folio]

Pins are the best place to start, otherwise there is a guide in the tips n tricks channel

[unreal yacht]

will check those out hopefully muscle memory kicks in as i keep playing ty man

[vapid warren]

This tool might be a decent start as well
http://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

[sacred verge]

this one looks just like the w1 shop

[proven iron]

I assume those colors bug out quite often?

[blissful geyser]

I probably have the only map with missing stages

[unreal yacht]

Was there a sheet that showed what to do daily in each world? Oh shi found it nvm

[normal minnow]

how do i beat biggie hours for the pet battles thing

[cyan mantle]

In trying to do that

I was told high power carrot, slime, goblin and mimic and auto everything else but the mimic and do the mimics ability when the axe is about to hit him

[worldly gulch]

@unreal yacht Don't be that guy!

If you ask for information and find it, then link it for future people and don't just write "found it nvm lol"

[unreal yacht]

Oh my bad saved it on my drive a while back ill try get link

[unreal yacht]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FKcqh0dzKgXbg2zj0sXXzv35gjvkyllsXw2BRmSm8Vk/edit?usp=sharing

[snow light]

Finally it says late W5 all in needed was to upgrade a prayer to max and that was the only thing holding me back

[crisp pasture]

I think being on mid W3 is the best.

[unreal yacht]

why does mines says w1 lmao

first time using this thing tryna figure it out

[snow light]

worst thing about my account would probably be deathnote...

[snow light]

probably anvil you gotta check out what it says can't really say unless i see it

[unreal yacht]

does it not show w5 stuff yet?

[crisp pasture]

Nope

[snow light]

no scoli(the wonderful person who is coding this for us) has not made it to W5 for the progression stuff yet

[unreal yacht]

soon

[crisp pasture]

I mean W5 skills are relatively straight forward beside gaming

[snow light]

he has to finish up W4 stuff but that stuff is relatively straightforward as well

[unreal yacht]

yeah no biggie... wonder how crazy w6 going be...

ima be stuck in w5 for a while i bet

[snow light]

eh you can use candies in W5 with W6 release you will probably be able to catch up

[unreal yacht]

OH I can? woow thats great because i have alot of candies

enough prob to push me to w6 gg okay never mind

[crisp pasture]

I might just candy W5 deathnote on release. Not sure though

[granite charm]

left tilt no tilt or right tilt for lava arcade?

[crisp pasture]

I do right

I don't think it matters too much though

[granite charm]

86 good call

[teal lynx]

There should be info on Tilt on the Wiki. If I remember correctly the right tilt is slightly better

[snow light]

is it just me or is mining exp just really bad? like i feel like i could probably put all my guys on mining and get to lvl 1000 in like 2 months but i put my guys on chopping for like 2-3 weeks and now i just got chopping skill mastery 1000

[tacit tulip]

if you think mining is bad wait til fishing/catching 😄

[unreal yacht]

Fishing was so bad when i started

i think fish prob number 1 slowest skill i think

[snow light]

i feel fishing isnt "as" bad anymore since T3 fish is actually decent exp but i also remember fishing being bad exp i think catching is going to be my worst exp/rate right now

outside of cooking

[unreal yacht]

catching... i remember now i had to use candies it was so bad for me

[molten frost]

how do i get the green bits?

[teal lynx]

1000Q (I think) White bits = 1 Green bit

[granite charm]

omg custard

finally

[molten frost]

oof

so instead of 1q its 1Q

[granite charm]

just ram and doot left

[teal lynx]

Welcome to the Ram and Dootless Club, it's hell in here 🫡

[molten frost]

i was there once

it WAS hell

[unreal yacht]

Kinda wish i kept logging in for weekly doot rolls before i quited prob would have doot by now

[crisp pasture]

I just got ram on last pull. It's been kinda nice

[molten frost]

honestly kinda whailed it a couple weeks ago

[unreal yacht]

yeah doot is so good

i hope i get it before lava maybe changes rotation

[molten frost]

yeh all active lab and +30% all afk in the first 2 gods

OP

[cyan mantle]

Is ram useful though it's only a universal chest

[unreal yacht]

so broken legit uses all gods i remember when doot came out alot ppl was going crazy

[snow light]

never leave drops behind again

[molten frost]

univeral chests saves TPs

[snow light]

and you can quick move things around

[teal lynx]

It's the only reasonable tool to candy your Alchemy Bubble 1's

[crisp pasture]

😦 Just used my 6300 ball stash in arcade. Got absolutely nothing

[granite charm]

what does that mean

[teal lynx]

Using a 1 hour candy and getting 1 Billion logs/ore from that to upgrade your alchemy bubble

Without Ram you lose some stuff and need to use Candy -> Go to town -> Put them into Chest -> Do your Snapshot again -> Candy -> Go to town -> and so on

This is pretty lategame. So don't worry about that for now 🫡

[cyan mantle]

Xaya I've leveled a couple bubbles up pretty high

[snow light]

personally i wanna resample my logs soon cause i got the first of my log bubbles into 500+ recently

but i am gonna wait till i get the next few log related bubbles up to about 300+

[open tulip]

is sailing a acc wide skill or do i need to claim for each character ?

[teal lynx]

Account skill

[snow light]

accountwide but you can get time in the skill on each character by using the golden food of the golden capybara which kinda incentivizes checking on each character if you get afk gains for it

[open tulip]

so i only neeed to claim it with my sb right ?

[teal lynx]

You can also claim it with your DK - Doesn't matter too much

[open tulip]

owhh so thats why i saw others kept finishing their sail

[open tulip]

but gaming is better wth dk right ?

[teal lynx]

Doesn't matter as long as one of your DK's has the Bit per level skill leveled

So my afk dk has the skill leveled and I can check it with my SB, Bubo, BB, ES whatever and get the same bonus. Most of the Tab 4 Sills are account wide buffs

[tacit tulip]

doesn't the warrior tab 2 exp skill work with gaming?

[snow light]

thought no because of the accountwide stuff i thought accountwide skills werent affected by it?

[teal lynx]

Unending Loot (don't use that), DK Bit per level, ES Divinity XP and Points from Politheism, BM Pet damage and power, Bubo Left/right tube

[tacit tulip]

it's a weird one but apparently it does work

[snow light]

i see the errors of my ways

[tacit tulip]

sailing doesn't get the buff from the archer equivalent tho so...lava things

[teal lynx]

For extra xp? -~~ I believe it does~~ yeah it does, but swapping to your afk DK is not really worth. Either you are active on a DK anyways or don't wanna waste active time on your Bubo, ES, SB

[cyan mantle]

How do my bubbles look?

[teal lynx]

Most my Gaming was on a DK, but just imagine I did that on a SB for a moment. I would be closeish to another level, but would it have been worth to swap to my afk dk instead of using my limited active time?

Talking in terms of SB here. My gaming time would probably have been an extra 20k plunder kills

[open tulip]

next question after mob respawan which w5 merit shop do i get ?

the extra xp for div, sail and gaming or extra loot plie

pile*

[snow light]

I would suggest trying to level those bubbles up when you can as much as you can not really much else to really say try to focus in order of

big skilling bubbles to lvl 185-186
smaller skilling based bubbles to lvl 200+
other bubbles multiplicative bubbles to about 200+
and every other bubble i would suggest trying to get them to at or around 100

throw in a couple 1st bubble upgrades for all the bubbles here and there to get those stats up because those stats are important at your level as far as i can tell

[cyan mantle]

Ok

Ty

[normal minnow]

[vast bay]

1hr of clickibg cogs and got nothing good

[normal minnow]

how is ur bit multi so high

[snow light]

also scoli's bot works wonders and can give more detailed help than me
http://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

[teal lynx]

Different things. It seems like you don't have the snail yet. That gives a good boost to bits, then my nug and I have every achievement (except 1m plunders and the impossible breeding one). My gaming level also gives me a lot due to the DK talent

[normal minnow]

i see

[teal lynx]

Not sure about the other buffs 😅

[pastel bramble]

Vial

Bubble

Meals

[teal lynx]

There is our Gaming Expert

[tacit tulip]

tomorrow I reach vial supremacy

What, 10 new vials coming? Nonsense

[teal lynx]

I'm missing Bunny, Blobfish, Iron Bar and the material from Stilted Seekers

[worn sonnet]

I finish two vials tomorrow :)

Really hoping w6 adds the third loadout slot

I really want to redo my speedrun samples

But I cbf redoing my talents

[zealous niche]

But vman fighting is only good for speedruns

Spec out that for it no?

[granite charm]

Bro I just got some recipe from the maccie's but I didn't read what it was and it's in anvil tab 5 (I only have 3)

Idek if it's rare or not

[mortal stratus]

Hey can you tell me what is the full form of SB

[granite charm]

Siege Breaker

[chilly mortar]

Hello, does anyone have a tier list for easiest vials to max?

[open lava]

i did it lets go 🥳

[chilly mortar]

hey thats great! now the liquids will fly!

[open lava]

hopefully

[zealous niche]

Tenteyecle, ghosts and cranium cooking are your ones to boost more

[open lava]

yep gonna stack up some more books wasted 2 guarrantees to make sure symbols got to 180

[tacit tulip]

Aura is another strong contender to max out

[teal lynx]

Logs, Ores, Early Monster Materials, Early Fly and Fish
But you can also check out the IE Autoreview: https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com . That also has a Vial recommendation

[open lava]

cant really get to 210 atm so ig ill leave it just when it gets 6 auras

[chilly mortar]

ok thanks, trying to work towards 100% statues thing but im a far bit from it

[chilly mortar]

remember to have the red boxing gloves on when you farm CC

[open lava]

yep main focus now is to get eveything to 200-ish or just to their next powerspike and working on dmg

[wild python]

Done

[open lava]

after tent its aura-raise-cc right?

[sinful aurora]

Id do cc before

[wild python]

Now I have to clear then out

[open lava]

not the talent bar setup talking bout which to max level first

[sinful aurora]

Yea thats what i meant

[open lava]

ah ok ill do that

[sinful aurora]

Id do tent > cc > poison-spirit > aura > poison-canisters (since ghosts' poison duration and damage depend on that skill)

Sorry for not having the correct skills names, didnt feel like looking up.

[open lava]

idm at all dw

[sinful aurora]

And raise is one where you dont need max, just get a 190 or something and call it a day.

Prob even less

[open lava]

aight my aura has gotten to 6 now cant bother doing more since i cant reach 7 now anyway

[sinful aurora]

Whats your current max books ?

[open lava]

my dmg is still horrible so i really need to work on that

[open lava]

they are 180

[chilly mortar]

is w1 dungeon easier to do in a solo party?

because i have never reached the 4th boss in a bigger party

[sinful aurora]

Oh. Cant reach tent 200 yet then =/

[tacit tulip]

none of the dungeons are easier solo tbh

[sinful aurora]

W2 is arguably simpler

[chilly mortar]

and i wanna finish the equinox challenge

[open lava]

i did

[zinc torrent]

hey does this items have any use??

[tacit tulip]

like, if you go in with 10 people and you're the only person beyond level 10 you'll probably fail still

[open lava]

180'ing symbols and yea done

[swift wharf]

Slab

[sinful aurora]

Excellent job then

[open lava]

my alchemy clutched up gave me big P yesterday after that few es levels was all i needed finally i can move on from sailing phase

i can somehow one shot citringes now weird..

[sinful aurora]

Thats very close to moles. You may get to the boss before w6!

[open lava]

oh im at fire spirit rn

[chilly mortar]

can anyone help me with 4th grandfrogger?

[open lava]

wait what is happening previously i couldnt even kill a few citirnges in my cc now im actually heading towards a good cc

[sinful aurora]

You're definitely doing it then

[tacit tulip]

levelling aura will have also increased your damage, mind

[chilly mortar]

for citranges i used red boxing gloves and only CC raise and aura

[tacit tulip]

plus the symbols levels will have increased your damage overall

[open lava]

oh yeah the difference is actually crazy

[sinful aurora]

Aura is op

[open lava]

my previous at citringes was a measly 5-6k

[tacit tulip]

that does remind me, I'm 4 points off of 315 aura which is the fabled 11 aura

[sinful aurora]

It will also be what lets you destroy the boss.

[open lava]

what

[chilly mortar]

nice job!

[sinful aurora]

Now imagine how much you'd have if you raised the level of the alch bubble for cc.

[open lava]

cant wait..

[tacit tulip]

keep in mind that the gains come from more than just getting bigger CC.

Your 3 second tent now means if you leave it there, you get your CC back again quicker, meaning you can run it more often

[open lava]

yeah i already have my cc down 10k

took like 30 mins before..

[sinful aurora]

The bubnle reduces the initial cooldown too, on top of getting more seconds for your kills.

[tacit tulip]

then there's 400 mana box further reducing cooldown if you've not done it

And alchemy box (longer duration) and drop rate box (more crystals = more kills) help a bunch too

[open lava]

done with mana box thankfully like 50 left for alch box

crystals and mana has been accomplished

[sinful aurora]

Did you get max mana box for mman too? For faster cd on printer go brrr

[open lava]

the difference is actually crazy

[open lava]

yep

[tacit tulip]

Those are the big three for bubo yeah

Chopping is a solid followup for samples, then after that the world is your oyster

[open lava]

cant wait..

[tacit tulip]

eventually you'll have all boxes (and carpal tunnel syndrome)

[chilly mortar]

holy shit

[sinful aurora]

I stopped at 20k gains arent good enough for the health problems maxing it would bring.

[open lava]

what the..

[tacit tulip]

I regret doing it tbh

could have clicked gaming instead 😄

[sinful aurora]

Wpuld have been more productive yes.

[tacit tulip]

I actually still need to apply the boxes on a couple chars

as that's just as bad

like does my BM reallllly need the stats?

At the very least I should sort that out before w6 to make pushing afk slightly quicker

[open lava]

my aura is killing them so fast the game wont le tme move from one spot

[tacit tulip]

Yep that happens when you get the aura spread going

[open lava]

can i active fire spirit and speedrun to kattle 🤔

[tacit tulip]

especially when there's two overlapping

[tacit tulip]

If you have the damage, yes. That's what the endgamers are gonna be doing in w6

[sinful aurora]

You should. If you one shot oranges, that means it's time to move.

[open lava]

i only have about 100 mil with gloves

[tacit tulip]

Unless staff gets you into multikillrange (it won't be) stick with gloves

you have to weigh up the faster killing (gloves) vs the increase in kills from MK. Once you have a few MK tiers, gloves remain faster as the difference is less significant

[open lava]

prolly wont so ig gloves it is hopefully activing fire spirit is better than waiting for a measly 6k afk kph

is choco chip on bubo a thing when cc'ing?

[steady beacon]

what would you say the easiest shimmer trials are?

[tacit tulip]

Yep, it speeds up the process too. More kills = more CC and more revives

[steady beacon]

I've never managed to pass the first tier

[sinful aurora]

And more exp / cash / statues / golden food

Just as long as they dont one shot you. Bubo has terrible defense..

[hollow gazelle]

Easiest by far is accuracy

[steady beacon]

i never get that one. 😦

[tacit tulip]

the wiki page has the max requirements for each trial

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Island_Expeditions

A lot of them are built with the future (w6-8) in mind

[wild python]

Now only doot remains

[tacit tulip]

Having got rift slug yesterday: Huge gains

Honestly think slug is better for your general stats than doot is

(doot makes life considerably easier tho)

[wild python]

But having elefant on everyone is insane

[chilly mortar]

what is your strategy with refinery ranks?

[wild python]

Rift slug just get +25 automatically not just the cap increases right?

[tacit tulip]

follow the chart until a salt hits 22
Set that salt to 0% forever afterwards

[wild python]

And it also doesnt apply on symbols?

[tacit tulip]

the efficiency gains from tab 1 talent 11 increased my sample by 10% lol

yeah, symbols is immune to stat increases, to stop oddities with symbols adding to itself

[wild python]

I resampled 2days ago at least fishing

[chilly mortar]

my total level on salts is like 45

[wide halo]

I haven't been here in a while now

[chilly mortar]

but should i still wait for 22 before i never auto refine on the three salts on that page?

[wide halo]

I hit 200 tent now

[wild python]

Meat shank lvl 373 seems really nice to I get a 520% bonus now

[wide halo]

Should I equip that one prayer which takes away total dmg for kph?

For activing purposes

[tacit tulip]

generally not a great idea

It can work for afk but as you're using gloves and your damage is a little low, the loss in damage might hurt your kill speed

[wide halo]

Fire spirits as a map is so bad tbh activing there is a joke with bubo

[wild python]

Are the voidwalker talents also immune to slug?

[wide halo]

Gotcha

[tacit tulip]

Most but not all

[wild python]

aw

[tacit tulip]

It's not just slug either, but talent increases in general

So slug, ES family, symbols, arctis, that achievement that gives +1

If a talent is immune to 1, it's immune to all

[wide halo]

I'm getting 2k kills in about 6 mins pretty bad but better than afking 6k/h

[wild python]

yeah all my talents are still in the normal cap

[graceful island]

reverse musketeers

[wild python]

slug got me over 100b dmg

[atomic kettle]

good grief is this actually a flat area!?

[wild python]

Yoooo today is my day got it first try

[normal pumice]

Bexst place to splice in world 3?

[spice widget]

sheep aka best kph

[eternal wasp]

Wasn't it stashes

[hallow trout]

Hey, i am kinda lost on what to do now. My best chars are around lvl 250 but i cant craft gear in Tab IV or even the last gear in Tab III

My chars are too weak to farm the better mats and i cant progress in W5. How do you get the jump from W4 to W5?

[normal minnow]

how's alchemy looking

[hallow trout]

can i somehow post all my alchemy progress?

[normal minnow]

ie

or it

[urban pond]

what are the highest lvl rn?

[normal minnow]

are you asking highest someone has reached?

[urban pond]

ye, and guides to set up towers if there anre any

[normal minnow]

uh

[normal minnow]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/e/2PACX-1vQHKsA7L-VGS5_JCJeLPUiFJ8mvooLaVRUpkq5t3aeu-rkEPgjZJhjX39t5spXU5jjfixN4SwjXjo08/pubhtml?pli=1#

this is a guide

[normal minnow]

up ur skilling bubbles

that give multi %

[hallow trout]

the big ones?

[normal minnow]

so molto loggo and wyoming blood

[normal minnow]

yeap

you wanna aim for 300% multi

[hallow trout]

but thats only for mining and logs isnt it? My Main Problem are catching and fishing

i only catch a ferw hundred flycicles

[normal minnow]

then bug squared and sploosh sploosh

oh xaya is here

wtv she says just listen to her

[teal lynx]

Bugs and Fish are usually 10x lower than Wood and Ores. So don't worry if they feel very low

[hallow trout]

is there a way to increase Bug squared with fewer mats? I Only get a few thousand cereals per hour but it costs 35k now per upgrade...

[normal minnow]

bargain tags

[teal lynx]

I don't have much time haha
Sitting at the Hairdresser just answering Questions whenever I get some time

[hallow trout]

another way? i considered it already

and its still expensive at 90%

[normal minnow]

the only way that i can think of reducing it is the bubble that lowers material cost

[teal lynx]

You could always upgrade some other bubbles to increase your sample and then get back to BugSquared

[normal minnow]

sanic tools increases skill power for nets and traps

[teal lynx]

Especially bubble 17 and 18 are level 1 for you rn

[hallow trout]

ok, also mentioning sampling. How many output per hour is considered "good" i think my 3d printer is so ´bad

[teal lynx]

It all depends on your progress. Oak Logs are past 2B Sample now

[hallow trout]

i cant get the mats to upgrade them. The bees are 0% chance

[teal lynx]

What about stamps and a higher Catching level (Higher Tool) then?

[normal minnow]

oh yea stamps

[teal lynx]

Also your Maestro getting #1 in that Skill to give you loads of efficiency

[hallow trout]

ah yeah, my stamps are very bad i will uograde them. thx

[hallow trout]

how can you even do that? He lvls so slow i cant get hi to be the best in any skill

[teal lynx]

I really don't know how hard it is at your current progress. But later on it's not bad, since he is skilling while other chars are fighting/in lab or Divinity. So he is the only one getting xp for skills

[hallow trout]

my miner makes 2.5 mil exp per hour. My Maestro only 72k per hour. no way in the world is he gonna best at any skill

[normal minnow]

how's ur lab lvls

[normal minnow]

maybe you can sit everyone in lab except ur maestro for skilling + ur main pusher

MAYBE

idk if it's a good idea tho

[hallow trout]

my maestro need years to be the ebst in any skill at his exp rate. dont know if i want to do this

[normal minnow]

at some point you're gonna have to

[nimble depot]

you get resources anyway from printing, so the others should get pretty limited xp

[hallow trout]

i dont get enough tho

[normal minnow]

i mean it IS technically enough if the others aren't gaining xp in that skill

[hallow trout]

that is my best Miner for example

[nimble depot]

happy dude with bliss n chips should scale you quite nicely up

[hallow trout]

and that is my Maestro. He only gets 72 k mining exp per hour

[nimble depot]

get efficiency up, put him into equinox to do the minigames there - skill mastery will help too eventually along with cards

[hallow trout]

how can i icnrease efficiency if he has no talents for that? I already got him the best cards and equipment he can wear.

also what is equinox

[nimble depot]

would start with cards mostly

[hallow trout]

this is my mining card set

[nimble depot]

and equinox is w3 dream area

[hallow trout]

was that always in the game? Its the first time i hear about that xD

[nimble depot]

since 11th of october

so about 4 months

[hallow trout]

that makes sense. Took a break because i made no progress just to return and still make no progress 😦

[nimble depot]

anyway check the !minechart command for the general basics of how to get more xp/efficiency

has the gear and such you want to aim for

cards, card sets, star signs all that stuff

[hallow trout]

that you mention star signs... i saw the telescop at W1 but how can i even unlock other star signs? I didnt bother because the bonuses seem low

[quasi bramble]

starsign is huuge

[hallow trout]

is it? i can only equip 1 and it just gives a little stats

[atomic kettle]

lol

it very much gets better than that

[quasi bramble]

yeah its a huge buff in the game. try unlocking w1-w2 starsign its easy

[atomic kettle]

and lets you equip more later on

[astral vapor]

Do the w4 rift to make those mining cards passive.

[tacit tulip]

w4 rift also lets you get every star sign at once 😄

[hallow trout]

ok i think i skipped essential parts i never heard about. What is a rift now? xD

[atomic kettle]

Actually how soon should I be doing rift stuff?

[tacit tulip]

it's kinda an "eyeball it and see"

[atomic kettle]

I got it open but not started anything

[tacit tulip]

If the challenge is possible, do it - you'll only know by trying

[atomic kettle]

alrighty

pretty sure DK can kill 500 enemies in 5 mins lol

[astral vapor]

Go to octodar map on w4, there is a new npc who unlocks the rift.

[plucky edge]

@teal lynx I slept through my alarm and missed my meeting I hope your printer went well 😭

[tacit tulip]

If you're stuck in a specific way people can advise. Early doors it'll be basic stuff like "movement speed" and "talent levels" but later on it tends to be "more damage"

[steady beacon]

do the ruby cardifiers in shop replenish every week?

[tacit tulip]

per limited rotation I think

[atomic kettle]

yeah my damage isn't exactly the highest

[steady beacon]

ah, so I should buy them now while i can, right?

[astral vapor]

Good enough to clear the early level of rift

[tacit tulip]

Yep, your limitation might be in killing the mobs fast enough however, which is where the movement speed and similar comes into it

[hallow trout]

i think i cant do rifts. my damage is to low

[atomic kettle]

yeah I might just throw on the lab chip for movement speed

[teal lynx]

I was thinking about you and got 8 Printer Procs
Didn't wanna ping you haha

[empty hinge]

Sigh here we go again

[astral vapor]

You only know by trying. Its not just kill everything fast.

[hallow trout]

but i cant damage them xD

[astral vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/parappa-discord-discord-server-parappa-discord-server-sony-gif-21769056

[empty hinge]

Nvr mind

Have to sait another week

[atomic kettle]

[tacit tulip]

If nothing else rift progress is a really good goal to aim for

[atomic kettle]

Next time for real though

[tacit tulip]

all of the rift buffs are useful (though not all immediately)

The only one that doesn't have an immediate use, imo, is eclipse skulls

when you first unlock it, 1b deathnote is a bit out of reach

[empty hinge]

Fr ,i dont know why its unlockable before the glided stamp

[worldly gulch]

I am currently slow-grinding sailing to get the talent level artifact. This will as far as I can see it be my next BIG upgrade, as it will finally fully enable my bubo to un-shittify my alchemy. Is there anything I can do to speed this process up besides giving everyone golden hamster food, prioritizing sailing speed everywhere and pray to doot that Omni procs sailing gains? :/

I even thought about whaling the sailing chests from gem shop but they seem to be shitty value

[atomic kettle]

ok 175% move speed, it's all I got right now

[tacit tulip]

nah youre going about that correctly. Obviously if your boats are terrible then spending time improving your speed would probably be a better prio, but I'm assuming you have the time down to something reasonable

[worldly gulch]

Unsure what reasonable time is, but I do avoid sailing > 24 hours

[tacit tulip]

yeah 175% is a bit of a wall, as a lot of speed sources cap out

[atomic kettle]

So for sailing you generally want to keep your sailing time to 2 hours right?

[plucky edge]

Glad you got atleast a few proccs I will think about you later when doing mine aswell

[atomic kettle]

if possible

[worn sonnet]

I do find it funny that when you unlock eclipse you'll have at most 1 skull

[tacit tulip]

2 hours is ideal but not always wortwhile. I did last island with 8hours for example

[atomic kettle]

right

[worldly gulch]

I am on Island 8 with my unlocks (I think 9 has my desired artifact) and already up to .. idk 12+ hours. Maybe I should grind shit-tier islands to get some more speed before continuing

[tacit tulip]

It was gonna be months of grinding to get all 20 boats up to 50m speed at the time 😄

[open lava]

100k kills/h not too bad such a shame that the fire spirits map sucks

now i need to get to 210 levels somehow either its gotta be atom collider or ancient fury..

[tacit tulip]

should be done with molti's today 😄

[open lava]

hey sakori are fury island materials not tradable?

i have unlocked the isle for about 2-3 weeks now and havent gottena single trade for the mats

[tacit tulip]

the materials being tradeable is based on your total islands unlocked

[open lava]

ah ig i should unlock toxic bay

[tacit tulip]

so if you have 8 islands, the first 8 islands materials can appear

if you skip say, island 7, then island 9 materials can't appear even though you have it unlocked

[open lava]

quite a lot saved up

i'll be rich once it does appear in trades

[left fossil]

Think I might be a tad short with this amount of logs/h for 1b sample?

[tacit tulip]

1111111111 for 1 mil sample iirc

[left fossil]

damnit xD

[hallow trout]

how can you clear the rift with the slimes? I have 175% movement speed but they just dont spawn fast enough

[atomic kettle]

man rift tears suck to find

[tacit tulip]

what's the challenge with slimes, 500 kills?

[hallow trout]

in 5 minutes. yeah

[atomic kettle]

should be

[hallow trout]

but i dont think that even 100 spawn every 60 seconds

[atomic kettle]

tbh DK forcing the respawns helped me

[tacit tulip]

If DK's respawn isn't enough you either need to kill them faster (better talent levels, such as statue, to result in more consistent kills/respawns) or use another class such as bubo to respawn them faster

[atomic kettle]

[tacit tulip]

the DK boomerang when levelled is very strong too

[open lava]

what a journey it has been finally close to 2 bil

[scarlet cypress]

I did it with SB, get plunder buff before you enter rift to give yourself a few second extra

[tacit tulip]

SB is a solid choice too, It's not as talent heavy as bubo

It should be possible with any class that can respawn mobs - so anythign except BB/Vman

Rift is kinda fun in that it utilises most of your account

[open lava]

carrotman-slime-refiller-borgar what we thinking can this reach arena 50

[tacit tulip]

I'd personally be more comfortable with a wode board somewhere in there

You have no sustain at all, which for early arena is essential to not die

[left fossil]

Forgot my lab chips, got it now

[open lava]

i tried slime-wode-walking stick-borgar but it didnt really workout

maybe i need to get a increase on my wode board it was only 4k so might have been the problem

[tacit tulip]

the healing amount on wode is the same regardless of power, so its only really a problem if its dying from the bouncing shots

[open lava]

i prefer fleeter over refiller ngl

[open lava]

yeah that so i tried forager as its more spammable and gives small amounts f hp

got to round 49 with that but bouncing shots killed me

[tacit tulip]

oof, so close

just more power on the pets if you're that close

[open lava]

my slime is also 8k so yeah gotta take that to 15k+ immeadiately

[tacit tulip]

Yep, if your borger is surviving then your DPS is your most important increase

[open lava]

all my pets died on round 48 but my borgar tanked and somehow managed to kill the mobs in round 48 by himself

[normal pumice]

this took me to wave 70 with most pets 10k

but monolith makes it tediously slow

didn't have poop unlocked even

[tacit tulip]

Aye that'll be slow, but useful

You can bypass needing poop unlocked by having w4 pets unlocked anyway

[open lava]

gotta put my hopes in bubo according to my observation im getting around 100k/h so it should take me till tomorrow to get to w6

[tacit tulip]

Either way you have 10 days. You'll be done in time

[open lava]

yeah for fire spirit is raise dead on 1st or 2nd slot?

[tacit tulip]

Pass 😄

[open lava]

yeah i got no clue who to ask either

[tacit tulip]

You won't be oneshotting with your poison ticks so I'd put it on second slot

the idea being you want aura on both platforms before reviving

[open lava]

ig the map has some flat elemnts so aura 1st should work

[high pasture]

there will be the candies open also

[empty hinge]

Dont forget vman

He is the real chef behind BB back

[open lava]

yea getting to 1k plates rn'

another 10k increase in cc raise dead first made a big difference

new forge stamp or something

[rugged token]

forge ore cap stamp would be pretty

[teal lynx]

And at the same time new forge slots
Making Bars about 1000x+ times faster

[wild python]

[loud mirage]

Boys i just unlocked W5 should i put all my chars into divinity at first? i have king doot already

[chilly mortar]

how important is rift 41 and 46? i just got to 36 and it feels like im super far off from 41

[chilly mortar]

yes

[chilly mortar]

get level 2 on all of them

[worldly gulch]

@loud mirage #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[loud mirage]

skill lv2? or all divinitys lv 5?

[chilly mortar]

skill to level 2

then i would resample everything since you will get good bonuses

[wild python]

46 is endgame

41 is good but if it takes to long dont go for it just yet

[open lava]

no way my dk is higher than my sb in smithing rank by 1%

[chilly mortar]

just tried first one to get 75 on SB and i only got to 6 since i kill them so slowly

[wild python]

Whats your dmg at?

[plucky edge]

@teal lynx sorry for pinging again wanted to tell you that i got 5 printers

[chilly mortar]

around 1,5b

im also working on 75 greenstacks

[lapis elm]

Make sure your flag talent is min level and you have the vman talent active

Otherwise ye, it's just more damage. Rift is just 1 big damage check

It's also really important to level SB skills since while they don't need the damage so much, their skills hit more targets with higher levels

[open lava]

i passed round 50 😄

double refiller with fleeter borgar and slime time

borgar solo scary

[chilly mortar]

oh shit, i maxed it

[lapis elm]

Yeeeeeeah there's your problem

[chilly mortar]

hehe should you never max it or only not for rift?

[open lava]

i beat round 59 with borgar alone

[lapis elm]

It scales HP like a mofo, so not til you have a lot of damage

[chilly mortar]

okok

i have alot to learn i see

[lapis elm]

Yeah it's alright. Not many people active SB early

Definitely invest in skills over flag

And have a decent amount invested into coin

[open lava]

after megacrit sb goes crazy real fast

i beat two rounds with no dps skull stacks are crazy

[chilly mortar]

i have mega crit

[open lava]

100% mega crit?

[dim wind]

I wonder if I saved these for a good reason when W6 hits...

[eternal wasp]

Gold twine rare af

[zinc torrent]

Do I have enough Vman damage to kill nightmare KattleKruck without spending hours?

[rugged token]

probably about 30-45 minutes of concentration

took me around an hour at 23b

[open lava]

i wonder if i can beat kruk with my 100m bubo..

aura should probably take care of it but ig ill keep a potions and syringe ready

[tall notch]

Decent

[plucky edge]

do we think this will be high enough for the new territory battle? cant remember old power level

[lapis elm]

I think most people cleared tremors with like 25k?

Maybe more. Couldn't have been more than 40k

[fading plover]

yea i did all the current ones with 15-20k pets so you probably are well overleveled

[hollow gazelle]

Ye I may get some 80k power pets but thats it

[vital wave]

if it keeps the same way, blokcing the first attack will make ur win no matter what i think, so yeah ig

[plucky edge]

yeah but i dont want to be stuck there for hours but i guess i remember it harder than it was

also have like 600 eggs saved up if i need to change anything or we will get new pets

[vital wave]

u prob thinking its harder than actually is lol, with avg of 7-8k pet power i got the last spicy in like 15 mins at max

[plucky edge]

might be yeah

[remote fossil]

Sailing Question. Do i need to do any sailing after i unlocked all eld artifacts? And got the bubbles pretty high?

[sick sentinel]

Only if you want mats/gold bars to upgrade ur boats

[remote fossil]

i got enough bars for the artifact that scales on count of bars

why should you level up boats if the mats they produce are not used for anything?

[vital wave]

why not

[sick sentinel]

You never know if there will be more added to sailing

[vital wave]

just look into it once in a while

[remote fossil]

yeah i will probably check once a day but not like 6 times a day for the artifacts

thx for the quick help guys, was just not sure if i missed something ^^

[sick sentinel]

I just straight up don't check it lol

[tacit tulip]

Just to clarify, you can't us the same pet twice in one battle, so those double Sand giant and double baby yodas aren't gonna help much. If you're planning on running double rattler (I'd use a looter instead) you'll need a second rattler.

same for refiller

[plucky edge]

but why

[plucky edge]

also wasnt there the alchemic problem of turning all attacks into skulls with looter?

[mystic moth]

Not at 1b oak yet

[autumn hollow]

Getting close though!

[plucky edge]

404 afk though

[old portal]

only possible with doot right?

[fading plover]

you can get pretty high afk without doot

[sleek ermine]

doot gives like 50% more

[fading plover]

452% with chopping if you can max out all the things

actually that's beginner, 475 for mage i spose

[plucky edge]

nothing trophy

[plucky edge]

also how do you get 30% from the obol isnt it 25?

[sacred verge]

5*6 is 30

[mystic moth]

I dont have trophy so no trophy+doubler

[plucky edge]

where is the 6th slot

[fading plover]

the obols can reroll

[sacred verge]

its not 6 slots

its 6% pr obol

[plucky edge]

oh you can reroll the afk gain?

[fading plover]

ya

[sacred verge]

yes

[plucky edge]

good to know

rerolled it like 20 times and only thing changing was the stats so i thought it just doesnt work

[mystic moth]

Do you really want to double bunny and not skill eff. Troll ?

[plucky edge]

for max afk time yes for samples no

well depends on your skill prowess but in most cases no

[uncut hull]

which colo is for time candies?

[mystic moth]

Thats what i thought hha

I realized i forgot to put on choping gear so going back to resample

Didnt really get me that much more tho

[noble sable]

two or trhee

[wild python]

Whats your highest orb on Wurms?

[sleek ermine]

If you dont reroll damage +1% and afk gain +1% are you even considered a tryhard?

[little parrot]

after you remove all clouds, what are the best captain traits to look for?

[plucky edge]

i click flowers every other minute i think i am considered a tryhard

[left fossil]

Got 1,2b with oak sample 370% afk. Do think efficiency plays a bigger part in sample size somewhat.

[obtuse orbit]

🚫 potato5273, that command is disabled in this channel.

[noble sable]

1k without mana box

[wild python]

damn

[noble sable]

prob loot rate

[plucky edge]

early on its speed + loot later its loot + loot

[noble sable]

just 5 ll to my first ll

[tacit tulip]

you're just not allowed repeats in your pet team, simply.

Yeah, that's a risk, but without a looter the fight also can take considerably longer. I actually cleared wurms spice with 5 pets, no looter, and it took 5 hours

Went back once I had 6 slots and it took less than 10 mins with looter - cause the looter nukes kill the healers

[plucky edge]

well i guess ill prepare a looter aswell if there are healers

[tacit tulip]

Also just realised that I "went back" but you can't repeat a spice battle - did it on my wifes account 😄

[proven iron]

Considering how pet fights work i wouldnt be surpirsed if 10k pet team can clear everything anyway

My 15k team cleared every pet battle with alchemical unlocked

[cerulean hemlock]

o7

[knotty raptor]

i cleared everything with a 10k team

[sick sentinel]

i'm going to try peapod out instead of rattler and see if it helps looter spam for nukes

[proven iron]

Well it literally doesnt matter probably like 3k team is more than enough if you can unlock all required types

[next locust]

As long as you can either tank or time the shield for the first enemy attacks, power is kinda meaningless yeah

[knotty raptor]

all you need is to get to snelbie and to nutto and you can finish all battles
the only number that matters is the sand giant level to make it faster

[zinc torrent]

why do these not boost my total deathnote kills? it's like it's not doing anything at all

[proven iron]

Well if you are playing with nutto on arena you need around 15k power or your nutto will just die.

[zinc torrent]

is monster decimator only for active btw?

[next locust]

Additive "2x" I guess

[cerulean hemlock]

😮 It's 12.7C in Florida!!!!

[tacit tulip]

No, they do add

[cerulean hemlock]

It's going to be a good day 😎

[proven iron]

Probably you dont need nutto at all to clear both arena and all battles

[tacit tulip]

The nobisect 2x is a flat 2x kills

[proven iron]

But for arena it will be very tryhard

[tacit tulip]

but it shows up in the afk stats

[zinc torrent]

is it like doubling your total afk kills?

[tacit tulip]

yeah

[zinc torrent]

ahh i have doot so i guess I didn't notice

[cerulean hemlock]

I didn't use nutto once throughout arena and all battles

It's very possible

[zinc torrent]

what about monster decimator? it doesn't seem to proc

[tacit tulip]

that should be adding to your afk kill stats too

[zinc torrent]

literally suffering from success

[tacit tulip]

that's additive tho rather than 2x, so it's a rather small increase

[cerulean hemlock]

You mean luck? 😭

[proven iron]

Well you basicly have no need to use it in pet battles as its one shots anyway. But for arena it might be a pain to get up to speed without tanking anything

[zinc torrent]

all deathnote kills buffs add to afk gains directly?

[next locust]

I can't test it anymore, but I didn't even notice not being on nobisect sometimes by accident. Probs just my brain problem tho

[zinc torrent]

alrighty, thank you very much

[cerulean hemlock]

Yep, damage ramps by about 1.5x in pet battles, I just tanked with refiller for the actual arena

[tacit tulip]

the easy one to check is the lab one. If you turn this off, your afk kills will half

[proven iron]

And yeah i tried to bring monolithic into arena
I gave up about 3h in

[cerulean hemlock]

Note that I already unlocked boroger

[zinc torrent]

i see

[teal lynx]

Good Morning everyone 👋

[cerulean hemlock]

You missed out on some quality AI Red Panda Content last night >;3

[teal lynx]

I saw a few of them. I will go check them out

[proven iron]

I finally managed to set up active bubo. Was happy for like 3 days. Got the rest of the bubbles and some cauldron upgrades. And realized that i literally have almost no use for all the liquid other than boosting exp bubble

[zinc torrent]

i candied like 20 times in a row and my monster decimator seems to be consistent even tho it's 84%, idk it's so hard to tell 😭

I'll try to reset talents and see

[cerulean hemlock]

Most were trash 😛 This was the best one

[sacred verge]

are we doing AI again?

[cerulean hemlock]

Trapping skill

[sacred verge]

😿

[teal lynx]

Post Apocalyptic Red Panda

[cerulean hemlock]

Just gave Xayayah a glimpse on the best one

[next locust]

Liquid boosts liquid generation for future liquid needs now, with equinox bonus. So it's not total waste to bubo "too much"

[cerulean hemlock]

When W6 releases:

[sacred verge]

let me handle that one

[cerulean hemlock]

Please no

[sacred verge]

no?

[cerulean hemlock]

It's going to be nightmare fuel, won't it? 🥺

[proven iron]

Well i do still have a bunch of things to actively do. Abandoned bubo for now and sent my ES back into w2 to greenstack everything and get me star-dice obols that i lack. This is just sad

[next locust]

Ooh I wanna see it now

[sacred verge]

only one way to find out

[shy flame]

does pet power affect anything other than damage?

[proven iron]

Well hp i guess

[plucky edge]

A^6 ❤️

[sacred verge]

actually not at all

[autumn hollow]

First pet stored also affects the BM ability

[cerulean hemlock]

HP and damage

[shy flame]

Does anyone have the team with pet power they beat last spice battle with?

[cerulean hemlock]

Wait what?

[next locust]

I did my dice obol farming on my DK. They drop from crystals, right?
You'll also get plenty afk% star obols from w5 boss, which are arguably just as useful

[shy flame]

BM gains bonus weapon power I think based on first pet in storage's power

[cerulean hemlock]

This?

[proven iron]

Yes but i just got to him yesterday

[sacred verge]

@cerulean hemlock these were nice

[vital wave]

12k rattler, and 6-7k rest

[proven iron]

I'm not sure that i'm able to farm enough keys realisticly to get any obols from kruk

[cerulean hemlock]

Looks comfy, 10/10

[lapis elm]

You really don't need much in the realm of power for spice battles. You just need to time the shield. More power just means a shorter fight.

[next locust]

That left one is awesome. Lock screen material for sure

[teal lynx]

The AI Pictures from last night are great. The W6 Early look and TheContract one were nice

[shy flame]

what I'm hearing is my pets are fine, but, as I've long suspected, I'm incompetent

[vital wave]

just time the first shield

[cerulean hemlock]

Aside from the typos >;3

[teal lynx]

[lapis elm]

But who knows what lava will do for the next spice battles Surely he doesn't mix it up

[sacred verge]

i agree 😄

was a fun one

[vital wave]

avg 6k i think

[cerulean hemlock]

I did it with 4k, just putting it out there ❤️

[tacit tulip]

only the looter/rattler matters for spice battles

[vital wave]

proof?

[cerulean hemlock]

One second, I'll scroll through

[shy flame]

my average is 45k

I'm going to watch youtube videos of this battle until my eyes bleed

[tacit tulip]

I did it with 5 pets - the stats really don't matter, the mono/refill/defender combo makes it impossible to lose once you get the setup going

[proven iron]

If you have alchemical unlocked i believe there's literally no difference what level your rattler is.

[signal osprey]

What prompt did you use for the one with my name?

[next locust]

At some point you'll be farming wurms for statues/keys. Those trophies you get from that one w5 quest are BiS for dr atm, so unless w6 brings us even better ones it's gonna be worth to spend some of your active time there

[vital wave]

just time the first shield, theres nothing more to it

[cerulean hemlock]

I don't have proof, but I'm sad now.

[vital wave]

its literally just timing

[vital wave]

[sacred verge]

more or less just ur name

i can look it up

[cerulean hemlock]

I miss my account 🥺

[proven iron]

Yeah i'll be farming w5 mobs anyway so i do drop some keys. But for now only 1 of my characters is even at moles (and voidwalker, because of course), but to get obols i imagine you need 3 digits number of keys at least

[cerulean hemlock]

TheContract, Hardstuck Midgame, Construction, Cogs, Cogstruction, Divine Knight Beans?

[signal osprey]

Huh weird. I tried using my name as a prompt and got a dozen or so images. Almost every single one was an anime girl with a gun or at a computer

[sacred verge]

cant seem to find it

[cerulean hemlock]

;3 everyone loves that I suppose

[proven iron]

If you leave prompt empty you get anime girls

[sacred verge]

but it was something like "make a picture of "The contract" the hardstuck midgamer"

[proven iron]

Thats just the thing most models do

[sacred verge]

nothing much

[lapis elm]

Those hats

[cerulean hemlock]

I was about to be happy.

[cerulean hemlock]

I loved the flex

[next locust]

Yeah 70 keys per nightmare kattle run. It's gonna take some time to get them, but the droprate is honestly not as bad as it seems. Wurms is a perfect map to farm due to layout and mob density so it's much faster than it seems

[proven iron]

Yeah i was surprised that i already got like 20 keys

[teal lynx]

I farmed my obols on normal

[proven iron]

Without really that much farming

[lapis elm]

I actually ran out of keys going for divines. It was pretty sad

[teal lynx]

1 key per attempt for an obol is really not that bad

[tacit tulip]

I have a few keys stocked up for w6...

[next locust]

Farming normal bosses for drops is what I do when I want to torture myself.

Just takes soooo long

[tacit tulip]

yeah I'll probably do colo 2 first

[raven fog]

Why are eu waiting for w6

[tacit tulip]

now that I have slug I can do 2 colos per orb

[signal osprey]

Theres supposedly a death note for bosses being added in W6

[next locust]

What are the rates for gem drops from kattle? How many gems are you expecting from 50k runs?

[vital wave]

that will show some cheaters if its added on LB

[raven fog]

Whaaaat but if thats true lava would still count oht previous kills

[tacit tulip]

even if I get like, 1 gem a kill, that's 50k potential gems

The goal will just be "farm gems for w6 bonuses and limited shop"

[cerulean hemlock]

😎 Expose 'em

[signal osprey]

I would hope he does but who knows lol

[vital wave]

50k normal kruk i would say ATLEAST 35k gems

[lapis elm]

First boss kill deathnote, next is collo clear deathnote

[signal osprey]

At the very least if you dont need the boss runs immediately then theres no real reason to rush them now as opposed to doing them later

[vital wave]

if u reuse the keys, then 42k or something, it has a 78% droprate from what i read from a dude

[next locust]

Even with those rates I should be pretty much set for w6 too. Just need to breed an offspring real quick and train it to kill->collect->repeat in my stead

[vital wave]

gl doing that much boss tho lmao

[raven fog]

How did yall conclude that it would be a thing

[vital wave]

i do 500 a week and thats it, got 6k gems saved alr

[lapis elm]

Yeah banking all keys. I did my efaunts the other day tho and finally got tusks. Sucked that the boss deathnote thing came out right after I did it

[signal osprey]

The bone pickle image he posted had its blur removed

[tacit tulip]

Is the boss note thing real? I just assumed contract was messing with people 😂

[signal osprey]

Nah I'm innocent this time

[vital wave]

why they dont remove the stamps blurr

[next locust]

Hype

100%

[vital wave]

like, did they use anything to remove the blur or they "translated" it

[raven fog]

Wait which post the recent one

How did yall unbluer it

[tacit tulip]

Text is probably the easiest thing to deblur

Generic images are harder

[signal osprey]

You could try to remove it but its not always a perfect process. Plus even if you removed the blur that doesnt say what the stamp does it just shows a picture

[raven fog]

Which text did yall delur