#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
1 messages · Page 639 of 1
how long that take
Whatever you do. Please tell me you are not letting boats sail that 14 day trip 
ah yes i got it
Yey, i'm king of dungeons now.
Feels pretty nice. Still dont have flurbos though. Even for equinox

And super crits
A couple of months, not sure
Dont worry, when it started that trip it was 30 days! XD. Got some speed upgrades though
But looking at your progress earlier. You only got 2 Boats and 3 Captains with pretty bad stats for the task you wanna do
Cloud discovery has a base discovery value of 5% or 10% per trip and no speed cap
So you should really work on your boats instead of doing 14 day trips. Those trips should be at max 10 hours 
Its a challenge account
I am working on my boats
But its a challenge with no skill levels
So working on my boats means I only get gold bars by buying chests with gems
Nah. Challenge. No on can help you 
I constantly get help, info is all the help I need
And your characters already have skill levels 
Why do you say that?
Just looked at your IE 
This is only your first char. The others have even more 
Or is that another account?
Thats the wrong account XD
Then both your account are at the same point in the game 
Do someone knows if the Harriep (x3 printing bonus) is additive with the Lab bonus or multiplicative?
hi xaya 👋
Multi for times 6
hell ye
Hey Rac 👋
"what's family?"
Even got Snake with lvl 1 
I mean now I can actually see why you doing those Trips. But you 100% scare me 🫡
Honestly got pissed when I found out the def/acc bonus scaled on divinity level lol
Don't ask about divinity
Btw you're prob the first person to not comment on my shame, the catching levels
Nah you quickly used some Paint to confuse us 
Because I don't know nuffin about lab placement and stuff
Do you want me to show the Lab Placement with 1 Equinox upgrade?
I could definitely use some infos on lab placement honestly
Titibuttman hmm

Can't be bothered to cut them better in Paint. Without the first upgrade in the Equinox Upgrade you lose the top left jewel giving you cooking speed - Just move your guy in lab, when using ladels
You only need lv 1 equinox lab upgrade to keep purple cooking active?
And like 8-10 for the damage jewel
Dam, wish i knew that 6 months ago.
8 for the damage jewel but it's low prio 🙂
Ill put that 1 point. Damage can suggma.
Does this setup implies everybody has the line width chip and bubbo on the left for maximum line width?
No, just some levels
Only need 2 points for damage jewel just hard to get
My bubo is on the right and no chips are active
On a 6 or 7 man setup?
Because a 2 upgrade 6 man setup would be really good. Show it please 
I had it at with 6 but have it maxed now
Pics or it didnt happen.
So you are apparently the only person that did it with 2 upgrades on a 6 man setup and didn't share it
Trustworthy
the problem is you can't move away from the skull due to its set range - 2 equinox points isn't enough to reach the orange jewels
there's an alternate setup you can do by putting a char ontop of the gmush node but this still needs 8-9 equinox points to work
YESSSSS
just doot to go
UHHH NICE. I got Sheepie 
that had a surprising impact on my damage. From 82T on my SB to 97.5
Who cares about damage. Samples, CC and Orb 
But this still seems pretty high for 25 talent levels - Wonder how much SB damage will skyrocket if we get more talent levels in W6
.
Oh yeah. Plunder is also my goal pre W6. It's chill and annoying
Maximum plunderidoo
second monitor content
Sigh heavily when the pirate lord just canonball volley into the void because he's close to the end of a platform
which is extra annoying
That's why I put them in the middle of the Citringe Platform - It always hits atleast 2 mobs
I'm holding him hostage now
I had to level it all the way to level 10 to reach dmg jewel with 6 man setup
The screenshot of my ones I posted was actually with 8, still not maxed it out 🙂
Unlocked pickle lvl2 and equinox symbols right as I was about to finish it off
I need to find the heart to grind up the level of the level 100 toons

Anyhoo main focus is getting that friggin library atom
Oh? It actually becomes useful?
For non dooters, yeah
I wouldnt call that
dmg bonus useful at that price.
If you get doot, cool. I wouldnt spend my equinox juice on it.
You get plenty of equinox juice
It’s definitely my lowest priority, but it’ll be maxed before long
I prefer to not increase cost and wait for more importsnt upgrades at that point.
But it's just an opinion.
next equinox unlock challenge: Have equinox lab range to 10 😄
Oh any character can do it ? I thought once only
You can do it 10 times for 100k 
That's also why people recommend saving them, especially now that we get 3+ more Statues in W6
w8 gamers with the max crit dmg% statue
is there a trick for this one
Not really
is there any way to auto/quick craft? crafting thousands of boost foods is absolute pain lol
hold the craft button while crafting from inv, thats the best u can do
It gets quite fast that way tbh
yup i know that, but for some reason i've never thought to hold on craft from storage
WELL I'LL BE DAMNED, ONLY TOOK LIKE A COUPLE OF THOUSAND OF KILLS WITH 22+ DR
WHAT
i killed my fingers for nothing
gz!! it's from w4 boss?
Yeah and it's supposed to be only 1/4000
Don't hold the craft from Storage button. Put the Materials in your Inventory and hold the Craft button. That's a big difference
do craft from inv instead, as craft from storage caps at 100/sec and from inv its uncapped
has anyone seen my boxes? i seem to have dropped a few
it gives more xp if you craft from ur inv rtoo right? or was that false information i read
thats from storage
Craft from storage gives full xp, but it's 100x times slower
i feel ya
sometimes i'm dropping some rare stuff all the time, but if i need something that doesn't have THAT bad drop rate i can never get it
i see
You need decent inv capacity tho
Is 10M damage enough to start pushing W5?
i have all void bags so
ye
thanks for info!!
k thx
Remember prayer if you wanna craft more
which one?
+capacity - afk gains. Unless you can hold everything at once
https://i.imgur.com/pOvSKVg.png There you go
thank you, how could've i dropped my dik pills 
One can never forget their gas station dik pills
auto clicker is cheating?
ya its considered cheating
i was using it cuz iwasn't aware of holding and i thought you can only craft 1 thing at time lol
Auto dikers though, those are allowed

Let's be real there, having to hold the button to craft insane amount of consumable is
god I want to die
Same
wdym? do you not enjoy pressing the "rerun boss" button for 20 hours straight every 8-9 seconds to farm gems?
should i delete the message to not get banned? lmao
or press 3 buttons to put in a single silver pen 5000 times?
delete and don't mention it forward to avoid a ban
evem if u wouldnt delete it, u prolly wouldnt gte banned, just muted
Post office pens is a warcrime tbh
I wish we could just set a set amount of stackable craftable consumable

i hope lava puts in some QoL features
thanks guys, i literally wasn't aware that it isn't allowed 
I'm voting for a minecraft style crafting system
Click (And hold) the craft button
while holding mouse, move it off of the game
Alt tab from the game to another window
Let go of mouse
Game will still hold the mouse click input and you don't have to break your fingies.
You need to drag each ingredient into correct shape to make 1 food
but is it a exploit??
Getting major flash game vibes for some reason 
I wish you could craft complex items like high lvl tools instantly using all basic materials it requires
sometimes i wonder if lava forgot to put the "Idle" into Idleon
It's one I've seen mentioned many times and noones been threatened with a hammer, which usually means its fine
At least we don’t have to craft 3 of the items at every tier anymore 
or let ur pet rock (that identifies as a human) do it for u
And pouches dont require lower tiers
Lava code is okay unless it isn't
well that should be okey
reminds me of the impossible quiz where you have to move your mouse in clever ways to win 😄
Idle games are such an oxymoron tbh. If you think about it, nobody would actually like a pure idle game where you'd just log in for maximum of 5 minutes every now and then
it was idle earlier ig 
honestly i play idleon for more than an hour daily xD
we all play around 24 hours a day
Still imo minigames are the worst part of idleon. A failed attempt to make it less idle that should be removed since theres a reason to play actively anyways.
idleon runs 24/7
24 hours a day (minus 5 mins from desync)
Imagine turning your computer off 
all a idle game is these days is a game, where u get something from checking in from time tp time, numbers go giant, something addicting and a few microtransactions
i play ACTIVELY for 1h, but the game is open for 12h/day xDDD
YES OMG i still need ALL of the achievments for them
I've actually managed to burn out from idle games once before
I was doing idleon, ngu idle, anti-idle, melvor and trimps at the same time - absolute hell let me tell you
i need the fishing and catching achievements
I only did chopping
only minigame achievement I'm currently missing is the 100 misses in a row
when i wrote that, my electricity died
I get so bored then mess up[
Same
i sacrifice some gains to save the electricity bill, so i dont active overnight every day, only a few times a week.... and this is what is keeping me in midgame... prioritising irl money over idleon gains 
I've been a compulsive pc-leaver-on-er for 20 years so it makes no difference to me
IRL Money is temporary. IdleOn gains are permanent 
this is the true mindset for big gains 
Stop, you're giving me flashbacks from work
that's why i play idleon active and 2 other idle games with 2-3 minutes daily
Until the servers get closed....
sponsored by doot, i dont think those servers are going down soon
What do people think of the active fighting feature of idleon? Like if we could choose to vote on whether or not Lava should remove active bubo / crystal farming and introduce a way to do those same things with the game closed with exact same efficiency etc. would you vote to remove active play in it's current form or nah?
Soon, no. But eventuzlly. Even the wow servers will shut down someday
so you are asking if we want to 10x our gains while saving power, or not do that?
Like maybe we could leave 1 character to "active idle combat" and close the game
Active afk 

I would vote for that
(assuming it's functioning and doesn't somehow take 80% of my gains)
orb and tenteyecle would make those calculations almost impossible
Lava code would totally mess some stuff up
Upgrade to the lab that allows you to active afk other characters getting levels on orb, wormhole & plunder kills?
In the time it took to get 20k bookstatues I got 42k anvil statues and 26k cauldrons 
Nah you'd obviously just launch a virtual iphone on AWS for each active idle combat character and actually run idleon there
It'll cost like 1000$/character/hour but worth it
How about splitting the screen to activ with more than one character at a time
the game can barely run 1 characer at times 😄
Lava just needs to remove the bitcoin miner
like the seperation of church and state it seems W5 and W6 channel shall not be touching
Wait W3 crystals dont drop the new statues?
nope! do you have the chart?
no
thx
Also pinned in this Channel 📌
Trickzbunny made this
Is everyone ready for the W6 rushers with 20 hours total playtime asking how to get more than 2 kills / hour on the first W6 map?
2/hour seems optimistic
Maybe 0/hour since there defense is to low
yeah the chart was built with lategamer stats, most players new to onyx will get considerably less
the ratios should be approximately the same though
"Guys, why am i getting killed on the first map in W6?"
What was his dr?
no idea
i did this with 13DR and had lower drops
The Pins have all the info on Statue farming! 📌
Barely anyone checks pings
I try to change that
The first thing I do is check Pins. Since, well, they are pinned for a reason
that will happen
, though i assume that W6 M1 will be weaker than wurms
@tacit tulip Since you're a pro gamer, any chance you could quickly check if there is some obvious stupidity / out-out-placeity going on in my IE? https://swiffy0.idleonefficiency.com/
After he remotely recorded the piano for this song nearly 2 years ago, the excellent @tomcarradine and I were finally able to meet up in person this week and play it together for the first time!
We now also have some shows planned together, which is nice, kicking off in Cambridge on 28th May! For full details, check out the link:
I have half his stats so I would need at least 400h for one W3 statue 
Alchemy
?alchemy
Especially chopping bubbles. Your Green is > Purple 
Omg, i got 4 warrior, 3 mage, 2 archer... I cant convert my warior to archer is it?
I would but I'm at work 
I need additional char 😭💔💔
thats subclass@half sparrow
Rounding error? I thought i need 501
I didn‘t even check his ie and just assumed alchemy as usual 
you gotta pray that lava adds it to the store cause right now your only option is restarting the entire game
501 = 101%
Pretty sure it was a joke?
Thats the point, no main class change token
I just put that name into Scolis tool 
Smart
https://1und2.idleonefficiency.com can you give me some advice on my IE?
i only accept answers in charts
You haven‘t unlocked your 11th char yet
And why no 3 vmans?
damn i should quickly go for 9999 lvl than
Yep but it’s a visual bug
wasn't there a guy here who does 10 Vman?
Getting closer
Rash did that and dropped it after getting the 10th

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/?player=1und2
If you actually want a review. You have a lot of Anvil Points available to buy with Money
After that some Stamps and Alchemy as always
The "Pinchy AutoReview" at the top of the screen tells you what to focus on next
oh yeah, thank you, i only use the great Saints Scolis tool for reviewing my IE
praise be our saviour scoli
There was a 10 1 Vman account in Endgame Talk a few days ago. Did a speedrun lost all Deathnote and didn't even get more Portals 
wtf 
Yikes 
Sorry 1 Vman account lol - They are crazy
Poor guy
do stupid shit get stupid rewards 
Can anyoane help me on my progress?
sure buddy
Thx
You got 8 people linked to arctis, but 9 people are manually connected to Lab
Should definitely change that
How can i see my lucky lad stacks?
enough with the trolling, https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com use this
On IT, go to the Tools > Item browser and search for what you're looking for
Tnx
who else farmed 15000 gems on kattlekruk to afford W6 or am i the only stupid one?
Just do colo
only stupid if you did it on nm^^
not enough tickets
Im currently on my last statue grind then I will to 8k chiz for gems 
Po6
nm?
nightmare
oh no i did it on normal 😄
Thx
sounds entirely reasonable
You got 8 people linked to arctis, but 9 people are manually connected to Lab
Should definitely change that
Your Vman should get Rank 1 in Chopping, Mining, Fishing, Catching. More levels into Trapping and Worship you want to level as much as you can on him
Try to unlock some more Meals if you can and upgrade the ones that take less than an hour
Try to unlock the last few Alchemy bubbles and upgrade some of the easier ones that are still level 1
For the rest just use the AutoReview that 1und2 showed you
i should start the 100k statue grind on all caracters
wait a minute... with W6 statues coming soon i should not put in my crit statues until i onyx those W6 ones
Yep
than i will not turn in those 100k statue quests before i forget about that
oh so close
I HAVE A DREAM that one day lava will give us actual QoL features
How foolish
Bubo for fastest push - Materials for Stamps and Vials
After that DK
I got my favourite siege breaker boi leading the rest
Bubo, afk the rest.
As soon as I unlock a skilling resource map I'll trigger speed run with Vman and get him farming the cards with the map unlocks
Activate speedrun -> World 3 Town -> Enter Dungeon? 
Hmm so I will wait for someone else to do this
bubo sounds interesting
Can always respec Vman and put that skill at lvl 1 if needed
I haven't done a portal speed run since Vman was released though so I might just make it a normal run
i might have to get rid off my bubos dementia armour tho
Wait what is this?
Entering a Dungeon deactivates all skills
ive tried it entering w2 dungeon it works
at launch it used to break it entirely, I do recall it being fixed
I did 52 on launch week and just haven't been back to it
ah nice i'am stuck at 36
I probably should do that before w6 comes out for the MK bonus
I think my damage is just to bad on Vman to really push further, since i haven't abused QS like an alcoholic coming home
does the fast boi alchemy add skill points to vman tab 4 ?
same
folks
Why do I want to do that with a speedrun?
ends the speedrun
do you think we will have a new armorset without prerequired armors?
cause i'am thinking of crafting my first troll armour even though i'am still missing 10k nullo for all troll armour...
Gives you instant map progress to the map your Bubo reached on launch day without wasting 10 minutes in the speedrun
So Vman can start skilling
Lava has already mentioned that divine will most likely be required for new w6 armor
Context is Vman gets his map progression from other chars
- world 6 releases
- Push with bubo until you get a skilling resource (logs, bugs)
- Speedrun vman
- Instantly end speedrun with dungeon
- Unlock the resource on vman and get skilling
I made a full set of divine, but right now im slowly upgrading all my guys to magma, everyone has boots and im working on the last 2 for pants
What the... so the speedrun unlocks the maps for vman if any of your characters have reached it? No need to farm kills with vman?
thank you buddy!
Sets his kill to 2 million, or the portal amount if it's higher
That's ridiculous
i slowly changing my gods to snake so i can start candying w5 skilling with al my chars
i still need to solve the nullo part tho 
Slowly?
but it prevents vman from farming dn
Do you know you can unlink more than one char at a time?
You can change all to Snake with one unlink
Vman is only allowed to skill 
maybe this week a Doot will bless me with his presense
no doot here so i can only change 2 per week
but my vman actually slays :(
No
just did my 2k killroy....one equinox less to do...3 left
oh idk that
You can unlink ALL chars twice per week
yeah, you can unlink twice a week, but you can do the whole account at once
with the bubo one? and what are you levels?
it's a common mistake don't sweat it
It's fine Biggy 
okay dont mind me 
this is a weird comment but your mouse movements are really smooth 😂 mine feel so robotic in comparison
I mean, to be fair, it isn’t explained super well
many thanks open a new world to me
yes the neyetune map...79 timer and 19 respawn i think
was it close?
Now I wanna see your mouse movement 
Also thanks I guess 
2032 or so...mostly auto only a bit active
I've always been a console gamer which means my mouse skill is poor. I'm accurate, but I kinda just snap with flick-y movements I guess?
My guess is 17 000 hours of fortnite
League really trained my mouse movement. One misclick and you could be dead 
thanks lets hope i can get similar results
Oh yeah I'm terrible at mobas, that could be the difference
I still can't play shooters tho. I'm okay at them 
shooter also train your mouse movement alot
just play csgo for 6k hours 
removed cc and added canister to bar
respawn on bars? i mean it doesnt do anything right?
respawn revives the standard mobs on the map which do count towards killroy
im just lazy...readding 1 skill is enough^^
So I can have my whole random Russian team shit on me for not being good enough
oh nice to know
just mute them and enjoy life
if im not playing premade im muting everyone and slay
who does xaya main in league 
OKAY: goal, currently i got 0 troll armour and b4 W6 comes out i wanna be FULL divine armour
also whats the lore behind you and mama bean
xaya helped me alot 
Nothing. Didn't play for 3 years
But I mained a lot of Xayah (obviously) and after that I played support mostly. Bard is the best there is 
Been kicked one to many games for "lack of skills" to even bother to go back to csgo, honestly miss old school cs
as a former rakan main i adore you
i mained rakan -> Zilean
The only problem should be the Nullo Salt. But I know you can do it 
Could never get into lol or dota, tried on and off for 2 or so years
nullo salts 
i'am missing 20k nullo salt 
i kept my nullo at rank 3 to have a continuous stream everyday
if trade was possible i could lend you 1m nullo^^
Let's just say you saved yourself from pretty racist people 🫡
congrats to 3000 nullo a month?
I think I have mine at like rank 4 or 5, the void bar cost is too much
id get like 700ish a day

I also never do forge claims, so void bars are limited 
LoL is REALLY fun if you turn off chat
Thats just gamers

wdym? 
lol is even better when you not play it^^
oh lord i just rolled a 173m and my current is 174m i almost pooped myself
quickly Alt F4 before the nugget counts
not the knowledge hammer 
trip on the power cable
it does work, and you game crashed what are you gonna do about it?
Don’t often claim on archers, so forge doesn’t progress very much, and recently all in lab anyways
oooh yeah, i got that issue as well
currently i'am doing 3 minute claims on both archers to get bars 
At this point, I’m just coping for w6 forge capacity 
marble bar vial forge cap 
1% per level
you're speaking in tongues 
jeez another 9 digiter in like 5mins, the game making me sweat hard today
*1000% a level
1 more mill till i can do stamps again 
1000% would barely be enough tbh 
is now a good time to mention there's like a 90% cap and it's additive with the plat ore vial?
Assuming that hasn't changed, the last level probably gets you no stammp gains 
what are you even talking about?
like is there a vial for forge cap?
We are coping for a possible W6 vial
oooooh
yeah honestly i just want forge to do more than 3 minutes of afk time on gmush
Marble bar vial is particularly evil, too.
Even if it's really good, it'll take ages to level up
Well there is vial mastery, would help a bit
lets be real, hes gonna do it lol
Clicking on log and getting nothing then realizing that the freegame proced and then getting nothing again is disapointing
Hey idleoners
What is average construction speed in w5? I just wanna make sure that I'm doing everything right
that is a loaded question
Anywhere from a couple mil to like 1billion
everything between 0 and infinite
50m to 10B+ 
there's no real average- you wanna focus EXP and nothing else.
build speed scales off of level, so more exp + time = more build speed
depends on your alch lvl right?
when i started W5 i had 600k construction speed...
Think i started W5 with 10m on my normal guys but 60+m on my builder
Mine was like.. 120k
a lot of people make the mistake of focusing build speed which hurts their long term gains, too
between that, clicking for exp cogs, bob bubble etc, it varies so heavily
just noticed but, the extra 25 points from rift slug got me a whole 0.01dr 😂
honestly at the start focusing on 50/50 speed/exp is quite good
than switch to pure exp
approx what con lvl?
Isn't rate the bad one btw?
Speed gives both rate and exp. Unless I misremember them in this moment. I'm not on my pc so can't double check ingame
when you want the pain to start.... honestly like lvl 80 or 70 is okay... BUT this will initially slow your building rate immensly
at that point also switch to only doing DK's on the board
everyone else into cogs
Honestly hoping royal guardian class helps boost construction further
Most likely wont, since thats the squires Thing.
does anyone know a way to get rid of the afk time windows without clicking "Claim"
Press the Enter button
enter key on keyboard should do it
Click space
ah
Royal guardian gonna be squire elite? Maybe if there is some op strength scaling thingy.
Const doesn't take into account efficiency the same way as "normal" skills so unless it's intentional I doubt there will be any accidental overlap
thank you
where can I find excel table with strategies to beat max waves at worship?
RG should be a squire yes, it'll have the same construction scaling as DK
Yeah so so buffs incoming (most likely), but no nerfs to dual squire board setup either
The exception would be if we get the Barbarian alt instead
as you'd have to swap 1 DK to the DB, at least until we get more slots
That's gonna suck
I only have one DK so I kinda win either way 
I either gain an RG, so construction gains, or I swap BB into DB and fix the BB bug
The only reason I didn't swap my BB to a DK was I didn't want two DKs on the same page 
Whats ur green stacks
196
U have startfire bars
So is this
I didn't even do lustre tbh 😄
nah i afk those
i only will if i cant get the rest in time
Wdym
When w6 comes 200 g stacks will be easy
yeah but now it isnt
I can't wait for w6 to come out and me being stuck at 197 gs or smth
worst part is I did pickle vial the same day I got 200 stacks so I'm getting that done first. still 0/9 on symbols

As soon as I get the 200 gs dream done I am handing in my statues
full sadtimes
Well, after getting onyx on new statues ofc
which other items did you gs?
i would 100% do symbols first if i were you
but DR is DR
imagine if w6 brings more talents and somehow you just miss out of a breakpoint cus u miss symbols
Anyone greenstacking this guy?
I'm close 
did you make the list yourself or is there a copy?
I buy them daily. But Gstacking is another thing
then it's probably going to take a while to unlock those from the new skills, whereas DR helps me before then
I need a max buy button
There's a copy, I'll see if I can find the original sec
@teal lynx my ie: https://odeiopacifismo.idleonefficiency.com
symbols is more orb lvls
:(
this is the version I started with - copy as new. Paste your JSON from IE/IT into A1 on the import tab
thank you
Would be nice if I was playing DK 
symbols is more everything tho
Is there a point of higher orb lvl than 300
no matter what you do, symbols gonna help it
it's apparently an overall gain yeah
yes very much so
still better
Huh
yah the endgamers did the maths on it, turns out past 300 it's still good
HUH
I run 311 orb with post office that’s good?
the orb recasts when it has 5 seconds left, so the extra time you gain from 300+ outweighs the time you lose with the resets
Impressive. Especially doing the whole IS Event on that account 
Proving you can go to W8 without any game mechanics 
5 seconds early no?
Btw @tacit tulip how worth do you think is it to farm statues for my challenge account? I havent bothered, mostly cause I have little means to increase my crystal rate, but also I just dont feel the impact would be that big
Maybe? Point is the orb is still there when cool down runs out and it casts again
Resetting orb
So every second extra would be wasted in my honest observation
My IE is just above
Depends how limited you are on gaining stuff. Eg you can't get ocean statues as it needs catching
Yes but the first orb is still stacking the same height as the 270 level orb
if you can onyx most statues and get decent crystal rate, I'd bet it's alright
That’s what the point of going past 300 is
You stack enough in the extra time that the reset is ok
orb at 270 is 138 secs
orb at 300 is 150 secs
So you gain 12 seconds but lost 5 to early recast, meaning your orb still gains 7 seconds
My question is how much that'd actually help me with progress. What statues help with afk fighting? Accuracy, defense and base damage, then hp and food effect to a lesser rate?
Ok but I was asking about Past 300
Past 300 is just even more free time
So instead of 7 free seconds it becomes 8,9,10
Yknow what it's easier to just dump skill points than to understand any of this
hmm you're right. The big draw of statues is food%. This combined with speed pots gives big damage through alchemy
Your SB would still benefit greatly from it, but not so much the other classes
If you’re at 300 DK orb just max Po and max talent
You’ll get the same gains and better samples
im still mad that im missing the dogbones quest item 
Such an easy Gs too 
this one ? 
Makes sense. I will eventually go to statue farming in desperation as I have so little to progress, basically that and sailing left, but I don't think hp and base damage statues actually scale that much. Is there any non crap way to farm defense statues from mobs? Trying to farm them from snelbies gets me like 1 an hour
Def is a crystal drop, so DK on tysons is the absolute best gains. People tend to do sandpots instead for the glass, but the carry capacity from stamp isn't really a factor for you
Is the Pong multiplier multiplicative on it's own or additive?
It’s it’s own multi I believe
Alright, thank you!
It actually is lol, my 33 carry cap limits a lot of quests I can do lol. But gotta farm a lot of glass to increase that... And Tysons and sandpots are better than snelbies for DK? Never actually had an account that did proper statue farming
Tnx
yeah, people assumed it'd be snelbies but the map is actually surprisingly poor
Snelbies has 12 mobs, Sandpots 16 Mobs and Tysons 17 Mobs
More Mobs = More Crystals (And the Layout from Tysons and Sandpots is pretty good)
1 Statue can kill all Tysons
And Sandpots are so close that Statue and you can kill them at the same time
Btw, @tacit tulip an update on my sailing XD
99 days 
I can finally get good stuff when I unlock island 8
That boat is just for emotional support XD. I cant upgrade it
how do i even prevent heal with Vman 
- 1 bil is nothing. 2. bb is nearly as bad as vman except bbs weapon hits more targets
2 BB is nice to have at the begining 
That’s painful
bb takens longer than vman
yes its a lonnnnnggggg fight with vman or bb if dmg is low
@teal lynx thanks, didn't knew there was a specific pin for that
yeah i only got like 30000M on Vman
i would avoid nkruk with anything below 50b as a bb
my Vman is currently stronger then my BB damage wise
This my bubo but my bb is soo bad
my BB has 110000M should be fine
i think its doable with 20b+ dmg...unless your tolerance for boredom is high^^
Also I just realised I could kill w5 boss for infinite gems
sadly enough i don't got online class anytime soon
for bubo plaque stricken helps
Btw, whats absolute minimun recommended damage for normal kattlecruk as a DK?
nothing? as you have infinite time with DK
and tampered injection
"can kill moles with shockwaves" is the only factor
as long as they don't reach kruk, you're safe
bubo nearly done with my AoE build
bubo got 56700M
I can kill him in a min with my bubo
thats a normal build^^
Beast master
yeah
Is painful as well
Yea, thats why im asking the damage, as you know, mine is kinda low
Yeah but odei is doing a skill-less account. they're running on the bare minimum
honestly i will now do the thing and report back if i encounter issues
it's a valid question
Is nothing >750k?
you'll need to grind the map a little to get some keys so you should get a good idea on how fast you kill the moles
with that dmg on dk you should be no where near w5 except town....
again, it's a 0 skill account.
he has 1 in every skill on every char
There is a lava button?
as long as you kill moles
Only 1 char account, but yea
(except catching because the game forces exp on you)
nothign m,ore is needed
now that's a issue
Yea, guess I'll see then, just wondering cause when w6 releases hopefully I should be able to candy my way to kattle already, but a damage bottleneck is terrible for me
I can kill them, but will prob take minutes
yeah no chance at that pace
Mine? 133
One shot them prop is best
133+ 6 from the +all talents talent
sb is quite easy...stand near boss and use homing arrows
traps help alot too
but..thats assuming high skill lvl
So shockwave slash is your biggest factor here, at 133 it does 441% damage
moles have 900 mil hp
900/4.41 = 204
So to oneshot them you'd need...approx 200 mil damage
The question then becomes "how many times do I hit a mole before it reaches kruk"
once
triggerrate is an issue too
nah, statue will be doing most of the heavy lifting
Heh, just a bit more than my damage lol
its damage works off your shockwave
i gotta manual the SB
This challenge is bugged and doesn't actually require 100B kills right?
otherwise he loses
has been fixed I believe
Thanks @tacit tulip thats great info
A mole takes about 15 seconds to get to kruk, anyone know how fast the statue attacks off hand?
You'll also only have 75% uptime on statue at 133
pls, gimme guide for TD
oh jesus i see the issue with BB now
told you so
bit of insight in how fast the moles move if you need it
Well, I'm sailing towards fury relic atm
statue attack speed is about once every 5 seconds? so you get 3 hits before they reach kruk
so you're looking at needing about...67mil damage
Sure, my boat takes 14 days to go there atm
But maybe I can unlock that in... 2months? 
Fury is notoriously hard too, so I wish you luck
if your boat is 14 days, 2months sounds optimistic 😮
Im accounting for speeding up during that meantime
On the bright side, I just gem myself into the artifact
Then I can gem the ancient one
Just gotta unlock that island first
yeah the odds drop on the later islands however, I wouldn't be surprised if the odds aren't that great even with gem chests
okay ngl i hope BB get's another AoE spell with the new class and i will do this later
Gotta be optimistic
gotta be
Maybe lava nerfs moles
Old world nerfs on new world release have happened
ah reasonable than
MR. Il be fine gonna wait?
huh, never knew he nerfed W4 mobs
:PPPP
And maybe we get new content that doesnt require w6 unlocked, nor any skills, nor carry capacity, nor crafting items...
jokes aside, with 110b dmg you should be more than able to do it in a decent time frame
yeah, it's more than workable at that damage
you just follow the same method as vman
focus less on boss and more on moles
Btw, another sailing question
the issue is more how... cause i was just running about killing moles doing 0 dmg to the boss
Anyone knows how discovery is calculated? I get different discovery for different islands, does it scale with distance or something?
it seemed like the range was too short
focus moles, boss when you can
it's distance based yeah, I dunno the exacts (normal accounts it's trivial) but it seems to be approx the same number of trips for each island
I think it does scale. Cause I’m at .01% chance per chest on last island but .02% chance per lowest chest on islands earlier than that
Cool, so 2 months is actually a conservative estimate, I should do it earlier
it's one of the reason cloud unlock captains are trash on a normal account
might as well just go speed and get the laps earlier
Yea, I should change mine as well, cant do it rn though as its like a week into its trip
i made my first set of divine armour!
sadly can't do full armour or weapons because of nullo
also no idea who to put this onto...
either bubo or DK
why am I missing
yeah DK is what i was thinking
accuracy
poison cannister skill on bubo
any reasons for this
it needs at least 1 point, fart ghost damage is based on your poison
you're doing 0% damage per tick which is basically missing
ohhh
Need to try to figure out any more slab items I can get
you don't have to equip the skill, just have a point or two in it 🙂
"Chemical Warfare"
oooh
but he has the poison cloud in the picture so he gotta have a point in there?
the ghosts spawn it
the fart ghost places it
i gotta finish that stupid 10 nkruk for scarf?
interesting thank you
it's why optimal bubo doesn't use the warfare skill on the bar
ah god damnit i got the materials for divine scarfs but not the kills
you spawn so many ghosts it covers the map anyway
is ghost the meta? i only got chemical warfare and the sparkly kill area
CC, Raise Dead, Aura, Ghost
Nothing else on the Bar
and boxing gloves
Good morning 🥱
Hey A^6 👋
But i need the trophy for slab
Use it on DK beans maybe?
I did, it just didn't drop once while doing my crystal farming
bubo is faster
Unlucky 😢
forgot rings
Mhmm, just thought dice would effect the kph
gained alot of dmg 
it does, just not too much
and it should at max only take a day of active bubo till u get it and can deequip the skill
My luck is non existent as it has no happened in a day
Have you tried... getting luckier? 
Only 10 more bobjoepickles needed
You think if i pay lava more💸 ill get luckier?
time to farm 1000 hampter for the weapons while i wait for the stupid stupid nullo salt
might aswell candy it when w6 is out
nah
this is the main issue
it is the barriere keeping me from 10/10 divine armour
and this is without any weapons
Hoping w6 armour is good enough in all areas that it stops the molten/divine mix
-dr 
ver unlikely
Can some1 help me with the Garph stamp I need p name and s
i bet we will still have to change up armor untill w6 boss armor
Accidentally killed a citringe. Now I have to deal with this 
the what?
am i not supposed to go full divine?
thank you 
Divine boots and hat give dr
its not alot of effort to change when needed
most chars use a combo of 2 divine 2 magma
maxed out
obtain doot
elefant god and pray to lava for good rng

i'am already running on minimum lab requirements
i would need doot
Then get doot
Elephant god really speeds up a lot of things, such as refinery, 3D printing and sailing
Doot ez. Just click the green button to summon it
i'am not paying lava for introducing terrible gatcha mechanics...
Good call. Me neither
same
am i the only dumb fucking idiot who didn't know the skulls from killroy reset weekly?
TIL you can actually chow/zow/super zow the invisible enemy at doot map and equinox rams....thats gonna take forever...
did the same mistake at the beginning
Just like I'm not paying lava for lag. Autoloot is the gateway to doot
realistically, when it comes to gatcha games and the like, the 1% of people who do just buy everything, end up funding the game entirely + more
i'am playing this game since july 
well...now you know it and thats great! look at it positively you are smarter/wiser than yesterday
Tbf it makes no sense that killroy skulls reset 
fair enough
that's what i thought...
The citringe was worth it
More Candy to get to W6 faster 
better get more than that
2 more
750 minimum imo before you move on
until you made enough progress to return to larry and push it into the thousands for that juicy 115% chance
501 is really 100%
500 is 0%
How many evolutions are there for plants in Gaming?
7
Ahh, the IT gaming UI made me think there were 8 for a second
Currently working on GT so i can hit those high levels
Chaotic Import placement
Not a bad thing!
Love me some chaos
You want them more like this. So Plants can't spawn there and Cactus evolves more plants
I didnt know that plants couldnt spawn on them
Well. Now I know 
They occasionally still spawn there. But the majority spawn in the "main" area

With better placement you can prevent every plant from spawning there, but that's too much work for me 
tought u would have a higher nugget
basically the same as mine 
Soooon, I'm at about 200 nugs since the last one. 
But i like my organized mess
Good thing i dont follow meta a lot
almost there
9, but currently 7 in game
I combine shell and waterer just to be sure to not forget to click on the shell
Does it's bonus not update if you don't check it?
it exists
No
Glad I'm not the only one, lol
Care to donate to an unfortunate soul such as myself?
I played arcade since its release and got no arcade stamps and no balljoepickle
My first of any of the rare drops
Almost a thousand nuggets since my last upgrade...
I've 3 balljoepickles and 2 hats, but no stamps 😦
thats not alot
For me it is 😦
just wait untill its 15-20k
I got a jackpot
At my rate, that'd take months
I just want the million multiplier. I've been stuck at 480k for a while now
When does this become unlucky at 4m
Not so bad, I had the same at 998k ...
its unlucky when you get a sub 5% increase when you get your next nugget.....the more rolls it takes the longer the dream and copium is left alive
Hell yeah.
knowing a 10x roll is possible but getting a 1.05x roll 
if its less than 2x im gonna be pissed
Yeah it at least has to match a snail upgrade
Prepare to be disappointed
I get to roll mine tomorrow. Chances are I get a 9th sheep or a 7th molti
nothing to worry about, im gonna get a 10x
My last upgrade was from 421k to 480k =/
ive had my fair share of those
yesterday before i hit my current 3x i had a 0.99x roll it was a 300 nugg value difference i was sweating
my heart cant take it
yeah ive come really close aswell
im still only at 5,3M nugg and only have 1.6m GC so its gonna take a while to get a good one i guess

Mooooore
All that effort getting a LL, only to get one passively soon afterwards
Just need 2 per character for divine neck and 75 for luckier lad 
Ah it appears I won’t be maxing this one 
I thought it seemed kinda expensive for level 50
I meant for equinox, I've got like 80 of them already 😄
Fair 😅, guess nobody told you about getting ll on vman at dreadlo
I did, but it took over 180 hour

prepping for the luckiest lad?
Got about 10 trophies
Anyone with a character that start with a capital P that could assist in the "Ok, now it's peak gaming" quest?
Drop 75 luckier lads for doot confirmed
Been postponing that quest for many years
where do you need me
what do i need to type again?
1 star, game sucks!
did it work?
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
64 is enough 
Rash would never lie. Just like you never lie 
What if... Rash wasn't lying....
And that was just the first step? 🥺
it's worth to upgrade Magna Core Set to The Divine Set?
heads and boots yes
yes
chest and legs depends
Scam 
chest and pants aswell for afk chars
OPPS
Usually we run 2 Magma / 2 Divine on most classes
But Lava said new Armor probably takes Divine so you might as well upgrade if you want
Thanks
Am I missing something?
full magma gives more sample things tho
we need good skilling gear...boots was a good start but still outclassed by normal high lvl gear^^
If the new armour doesn't have all stats though we'd still want a magma set per class no?
if i had magna now and lack mats i would consider waiting for w6 to use w6 stones on it
just saying
this is fine.
There used to be (still is?) a bug where 500 larry didn't work and would only give you +1's. You do 501 to ensure you always get a +2
499 is like, 99.9%
Ohh ok thank you
THERS MORE I FORGOT FOODS
big one to forget 😄
Cards card set lab chips talent preset gear food?
LIKE +400k
While you at it. Don't forget Doot 
and gears set
😦
still one of the coolest weapons
ill do the rest of samples tom ceebs gn all
plunder not found
and i also have the idle skilling hat but i think its on my void and effort
0 plunder
- I made the same joke
Thought magma helmet was better due to the stat increase?
rebirth: resets all rewards! Cooldown: Three Months
IS hat bis endgame
Until W6 
ohhh, mine just sits in storage
The Skill% efficiency on that hat is in a small pool of multipliers (or it's a solo multi)
Wonder if that would be enough to push me closer to 1b sample, but i doubt it since im still trying to improve alch
got the recipie


