lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[hybrid halo]

Sweet

[zealous niche]

What

Is that all GT?

[hybrid halo]

Prayers, 2 xp potions and gem pack multi

[zealous niche]

Can I have a link to your IE?

[hybrid halo]

https://hugh_janos.idleonefficiency.com/

[heady plover]

How does one get a 75 pirate flag on Siege breaker?

[fast grail]

75? is that for rift?

[heady plover]

yeah..

[fast grail]

Just have the damage and high level talents really

[heady plover]

I am assuming I need to deal more damage to get kills faster

[zealous niche]

Ah, yes it is GT doing the lifting

[fast grail]

are you one shotting everything?

[zealous niche]

This is my best

[heady plover]

almost within 2 shots

plunderous mobs however take a bit of time

[zealous niche]

Yeah, you need more damage

[fast grail]

What level do you have the talent for flag? only have it a level 1

And then yeah, you just need damage at that point

[heady plover]

Will do a reset, currently have the flag at 76 🙂

[fast grail]

yeah that will cause issues

[heady plover]

I have the rift slug, and other things so 1 level gets me to like 30

[fast grail]

ah RIP, never thought about that, oh well, just have it as low as you can

that is still like 1/2 the hp they had before i think

[paper summit]

how do you look at at zow/chows on idleontoolbox?

[lapis elm]

misc -> apocalypses

Under account ofc

[paper summit]

tyty

[calm gust]

Any misc tips

[short sparrow]

Alchemy

[sleek ermine]

So I failed a 30% snail 8 times and then it downgraded at 9th try

nice game

[dapper prism]

But, at what lvl?

[sleek ermine]

17

[gaunt shale]

[sharp mauve]

World 6 be like this too? 😂

[fast grail]

W5 didnt even have task on release iirc, but its not like we need the trohpies anyways

[sharp mauve]

I doubt if we ever got Tab 2 Trophy unlock in year 2077.

[neat umbra]

is there a max sailing time(?) for sailing

[fast grail]

Like I probably havent claimed any daily things in over a year, but still have plenty for the rest of the game probably

[neat umbra]

like i can be afk for 144 hours and claim 144 hours worth of sailing exp or trips

[sleek ermine]

[fast grail]

[sharp mauve]

Me casually consume 83 Gold Twine after 444 days of afk

[shy flame]

I forgot the trophies even do anything

[sleek ermine]

Soon

[sharp mauve]

Breeding 1500 times? That's more than my Pokemon breeding count!

[sleek ermine]

I wish the level 70 breeding upgrade procced more often

I feel like it never happens

[gaunt shale]

few days ago I had it trigger like 5 times in row, that was a surprise

[sharp mauve]

50% Gacha 😂

[sleek ermine]

I have some eggs in my stash, but I am saving them for world 6, new pets will be nice

new pets = more breeding xp

[gaunt shale]

did he say new pets ? I remember him just saying new meals and spices, that dont have to mean new pets

its lava after all

[sleek ermine]

I suspect were getting new pets, this is definitely not facts

A man can dream okay?

[sharp mauve]

I wonder if Lava will make Palworld vs Pokemon meme in World 6. 🤔

[gaunt shale]

[sleek ermine]

Third skill will have one if any

[fast grail]

breeding is apart of my "ignored" category

[sharp mauve]

Is there somewhere I could read about egg changing colour proc?

[gaunt shale]

hope lava gives us breeding quick ref in w6, I want to be able to farm breeding while doing active BM

[gaunt shale]

wiki

[sleek ermine]

just chance

everytime you would get a new egg theres a chance they upgrade

[fast grail]

Get your BM nonsense outta here

[sharp mauve]

Poor BM, I love BM 😦

[gaunt shale]

just wait for w6 shiny to be op with w6 release and then all BM mains do a massive ladderpull

(not cope)

[fast grail]

BM is my first char and he did indeed carry me all the way to w4

and w5 honestly

think my first kill of w4 boss was on bm

[sleek ermine]

hunters were the best characters in w3 so yeah

[fast grail]

Back in the days of hunter active at rams and everyone else afk at rams

[sharp mauve]

Does the World 6 Elite class feel power creeping the W5 Elite?

[sleek ermine]

Why?

[gaunt shale]

simpler times

[fast grail]

Truly

[sleek ermine]

We dont even know what the classes do

[sharp mauve]

Oh, I mean I dunno why BM and BB do not have a nice mob respawn talent.

[sleek ermine]

Because not every class has to be active god

variety is key

[sharp mauve]

Agreed!

[sleek ermine]

creates dilemmas and different solutions for different issues

Imagine everyone has respawn stuff

the game would be more linear

"Just go wurms active hurr durr"

[fast grail]

We probably do need 1 more real active class that benefits something

[gaunt shale]

BM

[sleek ermine]

we have 4

out of 7

[fast grail]

ES is not a real class, vman only occasionally for ccd

[sleek ermine]

And need for what

[fast grail]

some w6 mechanic idk

[sleek ermine]

What are you on about

And I didnt even include vman in the 4

[sleek ermine]

"We need this" "I dont know why"

So we dont need it

[upper slate]

is there a guide out there for best Vman setup for speedrun sampling?

[fast grail]

Ah yeah, completely forgot about SB tbh, its active is only for benefiting a single thing, so prob not good for another class to be active if it would be like sb

[sharp mauve]

1 billion Archlord achieve

[sleek ermine]

Just get as much as possible of multikill, you get all your respawn from boss kills, good sources of afk % ofc

Remember to have the aoe skill buff active when you sample

[upper slate]

I can only manage to kill Amarok when I do sampling

unless you mean I should only do 1 sample per run

[sleek ermine]

How many bosses do you kill when not sampling?

[upper slate]

2

[sleek ermine]

How is it so wildly different?

Just go kill bosses, after boss kills you go back and sample

[fast grail]

sampling really shouldnt be that much different from a normal run

[upper slate]

If I go for 2 boss kills I won't have time to go back and do sampling

[fast grail]

in fact its easier, since you are only rushing the bosses you need to kill and dont worry about worlds you cant push to boss anyways unless its to get to a mob for a sample

[sleek ermine]

Is it really seconds apart_

[upper slate]

yeah but the multikill bonus take a while to recharge

[fast grail]

I havent done a vman run in months, but I feel like you can get a solid 2-3 samples in at least per use of the aoe skill

[sleek ermine]

Its like 15 seconds if I remember correctly

[upper slate]

Void Radius takes like 20 sec to recharge

[fast grail]

The point is that you can sample in multiple maps per use of the ability

use ability in map you are sampling, sample, tp to another map, sample, tp to another map, sample, repeat as much as you can during the buff time

[dapper prism]

push for bossers for respawn
use ability, jump from map to map to get an easy 3-4 resource samples. wait and repeat

[upper slate]

ok I'll give it a try. thanks

[sleek ermine]

Problem is apparently after killing the second boss he has no time to use the ability to sample

[upper slate]

yeah that's my problem

[fast grail]

if clicking is a problem, dont forget that abilities can be used using numbers on keyboard, so that can help slightly

[dapper prism]

When have you done/attempted your last portal push run?

[upper slate]

last week

[dapper prism]

can always try a portal run too and hope you get to the next's 5th for extra mk

[sleek ermine]

consider completing more skulls in worlds 1 and 2 for more multikill so you reach bosses faster

[upper slate]

oh, that's a good idea. I could use my BB to get more chows while I'm at it

[cerulean yew]

Any idea why it doesn't work for every ability?

[haughty flower]

is it worth taking time off of pushing w5 to get Vman?

[whole slate]

another lvl 13 vial soon

[graceful tinsel]

yea but you dont really need to active mman to get vman

[whole slate]

i ignored my mman until yesterday he went from lvl 101 to 145 working on lvl 150 i almost have the 12m kills too so im balling

[graceful tinsel]

nice vman is a giga chad

[whole slate]

thats some bullshit

[whole slate]

ill work on mman's skills some day

wait no i can work on them div pearl abuse until lvl 50

[haughty flower]

im not, just farming a million kills on ES.

[graceful tinsel]

ahh right i used candy for that part

[whole slate]

i used a couple of candies for money got to 11m so eh its decent

yeah i need to work on this

this one gonna be ez

wait do i also have to do for w5?

[gaunt shale]

well at some point, yes

[whole slate]

i mean for the vman quest

[whole slate]

also what happened to you u became a kanna fan no longer a big bearded man

[gaunt shale]

then no

[whole slate]

alr

[gaunt shale]

when did I have big bearded man as pfp

[whole slate]

ur previous pfp a man in armor with a nice moustache

[gaunt shale]

[whole slate]

or am i confusing ppl

[gaunt shale]

possibly

[kind epoch]

Great success, finally got past nightmare kruk on vman

20 minutes of mole murder haha

[frosty shore]

grats, took over an hour for me, what was your damage range?

[vivid radish]

im so far off on that one... stuck on trapping skill for now

[haughty ivy]

What does this sentence mean

[random parrot]

he use use pearl pearl to 50 50

[haughty ivy]

That.... Didnt help

[random parrot]

divine pearl gives exp

[haughty ivy]

Ooooo

[dense turtle]

does it matter which char you are using for pushing nuggets --> in terms of gaming xp?

[haughty ivy]

Which skill should you use it on?

[random parrot]

only use it when you need it for sumting

[rapid shale]

as long as your DK or one of your DKs has the skills currently specced

[dense turtle]

ok thx

[haughty ivy]

Also tips to get the 12m mush kills for vman

My maestro isnt that good dmg wise

[random parrot]

do you use snapshot

[haughty ivy]

Umm.. no?

[random parrot]

snapshot trick

[rapid shale]

snapshotting isnt gonna help him that much

[haughty ivy]

Have no idea what that is

I probably do it tho, i like to keep boosts active

[zealous niche]

Candy, alchemy and stamps

[haughty ivy]

Stamps are kinda annoying to upgrade

[zealous niche]

do you use the rucksack prayer to help? The extra carry capacity helps

[haughty ivy]

I like just dont do it cause i find it annoying

[rapid shale]

if hes doing his vman quest hes not at that point most likely

do stamps, stamps op

[haughty ivy]

They are somewhat upgraded

Will do some more

[rapid shale]

what does somewhat mean?

[haughty ivy]

Hate the 53 hatchet or pickaxe things

Dont got no inventory like that

[haughty ivy]

The easy one's that I have on hand are upgraded, if the requirement is anything i have to craft , its not done

Anyways its gonna be a while till i need the 12m

My blood bones are at 200 k and i get like 2k kills /hr afk

[rapid shale]

are you w5?

[haughty ivy]

Barely yes

Haven't pushed anywhere tho

Just skilling there

[rapid shale]

i didnt do vman quest until a few weeks into w5

[haughty ivy]

Im just getting ready for it, cause by the time i need it, my impatient ass won't be able to wait

[rapid shale]

i think I was at like 50k gmush kills an hour on vman or something

candied most of it tho

[haughty ivy]

Woaah im not anywhere close to it

My es gets like 20k max

I guess hes gonna keep skilling for now

Need to get catching up, is there a place like the fishing island with niceee xp gain

[rapid shale]

for what?

[haughty ivy]

Catching

[rapid shale]

no

[haughty ivy]

Should i baloon/ pearl

[rapid shale]

can do equinox active for a bit but youll have to move to dustmotes or the other w5 bug when not active

[haughty ivy]

Tbf i haven't ever caught a single bug in w4 and im done with its portals, all my w4 bugs were coloseum

[swift wharf]

Magma>troll for damage?

Armor

[zenith cape]

Magma is the last armor upgrade for 14 days so I would think it's better

[fast grail]

Magma is just a 100% upgrade in everything from troll

Gets weird with divine though, need mixed gear for most chars

[swift wharf]

There’s still kruk after magma

[swift wharf]

Shooooooot, heard

[zenith cape]

Oh yeah kruk

[rapid shale]

divine is for when you want more kills and drop rate, magma for when you need stats

[swift wharf]

Ahhhhhh, okay

[raven fog]

Where is the best location to geen stack time thingy and employment statistics

[fast grail]

General rule for divine: Boots and helm for active chars that need dr, legs and chest for afk chars

bubo stays in all magma for more stats% for more money

[swift wharf]

We do love money

Gotta work on gmush kills soon

[empty skiff]

Better use snake or mantis for vman speedrun ?

[zenith cape]

The uh, bear gods thing still works when you have a doot, right?

[rapid shale]

everything works with doot (except purrmep you gotta link that boy once)

[zenith cape]

Just making sure. I forgot I left some guys on bear so I was gunna unlink em

[uncut owl]

gimme guide for equinox pls (best choices)

can't find it

[cyan mantle]

Hold up so the only way to go back to the rift is through world map

But if u have no map teleports you can't go there

[kind epoch]

Top end was 36B, can't remember lower

17B-36.7B

[ocean fox]

For the get kattlecruk cape quest from the tired mole do I actually need to drop it on that character

[vivid radish]

not enough to afk

[frosty shore]

nice , i had like 20b max when i did mine

[sacred verge]

yes, and you need to drop it after you pick up the quest

[kind epoch]

Yeah, I'd just made the molten gloves so figured I'd give it another go

[raven fog]

Getting 200 green stack is harder than i thought

[kind epoch]

Yeah, I had to control my guy the whole time haha - won't be taking him back for a while

[cyan mantle]

Guys does dr change the drop rate for rift tears

[vivid radish]

how did u pace it tho? cant run left to right fast enough to stop him healing :<

[teal lynx]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
The Video is assuming atleast 350% speed the visual cap of speed. 45B + All Fist Talents at 245 should be a rather quick fight

[cyan mantle]

Xayah

Does dr change the drop rate alot for rift tears

[zinc torrent]

300% is enough, but more is always better for more dmg from qs

[teal lynx]

Good question. I assume so

Let me check the Wiki

Hmm Wiki has no actual data on rift tears. But it should be a normal drop like everything else. So Dr should affect it

[cyan mantle]

Ok

Ty

[teal lynx]

ES is probably the fastest for that quest

[cyan mantle]

That's what I'm using

[runic girder]

Isnt thr visual cap way lower?

[zinc torrent]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message ye, it is 300% prolly

[teal lynx]

Skull said so too. My last info is 350%

[zinc torrent]

lava never said a exact number tho

[runic girder]

You could test it

But its probably a bit hard to actually get precise

[teal lynx]

And it's not really relevant for most people here. We all going above 300% in ~3-4 months of playing this game anyways

[zinc torrent]

or u could dig a few hours trough lavas 🍝 code to find it

[glad crow]

I have always heard 350%

[teal lynx]

We need an april fools no visual movespeed cap day

[runic girder]

Thats like finding a grain of salt in a haystack

[runic girder]

https://tenor.com/view/caffeine-ren-me-when-the-zoomies-bunny-gif-22991327

[upper slate]

do you get any bonus from geting high score in Pong Controller game?

[runic girder]

More bits

[zinc torrent]

a bit multi and a achivement

[runic girder]

Still eludes me

That 25k

[lapis elm]

Lag makes it impossible anyway

[upper slate]

is there a place to read about it? it's not in the wiki

[vivid radish]

ah nice, thanks. its fucking atrocious...

[kind epoch]

Use whip on a group on CD, spam r on mobs while waiting for aoe clear to come off CD, dump coins on boss when you cross and don't be greedy hitting Kruk for too long after you wave clear

[vivid radish]

yeah i get it, still fucking annoying

[kind epoch]

Yeah it is haha

[vivid radish]

bubo drops one aura and im good

[teal lynx]

The Bit multi is not that bad. But getting to such a high score involves patience and luck

[upper slate]

nice bonus. I like that it doesn't seem to have a limit for tries

[teal lynx]

It would be crazy having a limit with the amount of lag it has
But hey I got it after a few hours

[upper slate]

first try. I should prolly do it on PC

I do reasonably well with all the mini games except fishing and the trapping ones

[zinc torrent]

the two most important ones

[normal minnow]

hi xaya 👋

[last tulip]

just got goat god, is it a good plan to do lab til i get 40 divinity with the goat god? wich lvl in lab should i aim for?

[teal lynx]

Unlocking Purrmep and lvl 40 Div is a good goal
For Lab you want to be able to get a 6 man full Lab (without the Cooking Jewel at the beginning and without the damage jewel somewhere in the middle)

[normal minnow]

does the length of the line solely depend onlab lvl btw

or is there other stuff that makes it so my line can be ridiculously long

[last tulip]

there is some chips that can increase i think

also do i only get div exp from the goat god or exp and points for div while in lab?

[teal lynx]

Length between characters depends on levels and a Lab Chip. Not sure if there is more
Length to Jewels/Nodes is determined by a Merit Upgrade, Equinox Upgrade and 2 Bonuses in Lab

[normal minnow]

xp and div points + lab xp

[last tulip]

oh thats sick

[normal minnow]

okay thanks xaya

[elder ermine]

I did realized who kattlecruks upgrade stones is in another chance who they can't upgraded I think I did upgrade to increase success chance from one upgrade of guild

[glad crow]

small strenght pots takes so long to greenstack

wish me luck lads

[gaunt shale]

[teal lynx]

Bean God

[glad crow]

[upper slate]

greenstack doot ya noob

[normal minnow]

oh thanks for reminding me

rift slug pls lava

[eternal wasp]

Sheepie for ya

[normal minnow]

I GOT A BEAN

[teal lynx]

Beans for the Bean God

[glad crow]

we are getting there

[teal lynx]

Bewboh on Sandpots?

Probably not. But you could be the first to implement it

[glad crow]

sadly not... i have put bewboh on divinity to grind the 155 on him

[vivid radish]

thanks again just did it lol

[teal lynx]

I found BB to be harder - Probably a skill issue

[ocean fox]

Do you think we'll be able to candy divinity in w6

[vivid radish]

nope

but w5

[normal minnow]

gs glass shart

[teal lynx]

We can not candy any of the W4 Skills. So I assume not

[ocean fox]

Yeahhh

[cyan mantle]

Well I'm now on rift 3 and my es has already done it so now I need 2 more people to finish it

[normal minnow]

what's rift 3

[teal lynx]

Kill all monsters before they respawn. So DK and SB

Or Bubo without raise dead if it has anough damage

[tropic pecan]

If I use the "This pet" option when hatching pets, can I still hatch shiny ones?

[normal minnow]

just use both ur ES and like a dk or smth

[modest drift]

I feel really stuck at sailing, is there a progression guide for it?

[vague yoke]

Step 1: Row row row your boat...

[teal lynx]

Hmm not really. We just assume you get atleast the basic artifact from an Island before moving on

The only thing I can recommend is Not using Unendling loot from SB and let your minimum chest at the lowest you can
Put Golden Hampters or Omniphau God on every character and check them every 2-4 hours and hope they give you sailing progress

[halcyon shoal]

Nice stack of glass shards there

[shy flame]

unending loot good for lazy gamers who don't check in more than like once a day

[uncut owl]

best location for crystals in W1?

[shy flame]

beans

[uncut owl]

thanks

[frozen mauve]

from king doot do i get all of the diety extra bonus or only main bonus

[modest drift]

why no unending loot?

[zinc torrent]

without it u get more chest, and even one single chest is better then the upgrade u get from over 30 chests

[shy flame]

having better chests gives you a very marginal increase in arti chance so if you're checking every 4 hours or so it's just a lot better to have more chests than better chests

[modest drift]

thanks!!!

[teal lynx]

You get the Main and Minor Link Bonus. The only exception is Purrmep. You need to connect to them manually

Best done with your highest Div level character

[shy flame]

unending loot is useful for someone like me that doesn't check sailing more than once a day but it's not the fastest way to progress, being more attentive than me is going to progress sailing faster

[dreamy folio]

Why is unending lootpile bad again?

[teal lynx]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
Video why

[zinc torrent]

scroll up 4 mssgs

[dreamy folio]

Oh, sorry

[shy flame]

It's not bad if your playstyle is already suboptimal and bad

[whole slate]

cuz it takes too much time for good chests to even drop and u can just be doing 12-20hr claims instead of 48+ hr claims and have higher arti chances

[vapid warren]

is there a 'best lab setup' guide anywhere? I couldnt find any in tips-n-tricks

[dreamy folio]

Ok

[plucky edge]

for the love of god how does this work is there an explanation sometime i feel like it does nothing

[cyan mantle]

All my characters are too bloody weak to do rift 3

[teal lynx]

This only works if you are active on that specific character

So being active on your ES won't give you the faster Refinery speed DK gives through this Talent. Hope that makes sense

[vapid warren]

Family bonuses can be found on the family tab next to Cards & Friends

[uncut owl]

how to get quickly 20k power statues for onyx? Just farming crystals?

[teal lynx]

Beans in W1

[plucky edge]

okay that was the thing im wondering about thanks a lot

[uncut owl]

fuuuuu

it will take a while

[cyan mantle]

Should I start focusing and doing statues bc rift is just out of my league atm

[vapid warren]

I believe people dont even bother until they've beaten at least nightmare kruk

otherwise the grind is just not worth/too long

[teal lynx]

imo don't attempt it if you don't have atleast 12x dr and 4* Crystal Cards + Doublers

[uncut owl]

kruk is dead

[vapid warren]

& cookie

[vapid warren]

On all 10 characters? on nightmare?

[uncut owl]

I have dr 9, 4 cards and doubles

[whole slate]

trying to farm 20k power statues is like trying to castrate yourself without anathesia with a dull razor blade

[uncut owl]

a, nope, on a few

[cyan mantle]

So your saying since I haven't fought kruk I shouldn't attempt statues

[teal lynx]

So you got a lot of sources for Dr left. 12x is the minimum I recommend
Rather go for 15x+

[vapid warren]

Okay you're prob at the point where you can start saving statues and passively accumulate

[vapid warren]

probably not worth saving, cuz you're gonna want 2x statue turn in, which is quite late game

[uncut owl]

I think it will be like 500statues or a bit more per 1 hours

[whole slate]

chom did it with like 8-10 dr

[open lava]

time to run 20 collo

[pale otter]

Ive go like 8× drop and 1/76 crystals spawn chance and i get about 200-300 power statues per hour

[teal lynx]

Yeah. This is very low

[uncut owl]

I have 9dr and 1/45 CS

[teal lynx]

I don't say it's impossible. You guys are just wasting precious active time doing something way too early

[lapis elm]

Set yourself up to farm statues. Don't rush it. With these numbers, you'll only suffer more if you're struggling on the easiest part.

[teal lynx]

You legit speed statue farming up by several margins with more dr

[open lava]

i actived on es overnight and still didnt get w2 splicer

[teal lynx]

So invest your active time into getting more dr instead of bruteforcing the very first Onyx quest

[uncut owl]

I lost all my saved guides since I haven't played for 7+ month

is there any DR guide?

[icy sandal]

not gonna miss this right

[teal lynx]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1141880730411094106
Or look GriffyBits video

[uncut owl]

Thanks

[tall notch]

Fucking finally done with this shit

[open lava]

😭

[tall notch]

100b vman damage was a bit of an overkill but eh

[open lava]

nvm i hit 100 mil food clutched it

[teal lynx]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
So with 2.7 times your Dr I'm getting ~66x your Statues. Just because you can statue farm it doesn't mean you should be doing it
Reaching 12x dr is not hard and it will give you atleast 2x statues an hour

[shy flame]

any tips for hitting that I have two vmen

[vivid radish]

skilling

[normal minnow]

kinda related to the photo, if i defeat the boss on my 1st three chars for example, can i still replay it on my 1st char and then continue on my 4th or will i have to do it on my 2nd char again

[tall notch]

Hella skilling, using library to max damage talents, all the speed pots you can equip and 3k quickslap

[open lava]

nice

[shy flame]

QS, my one weakness

[worn sonnet]

w6 damage buffs :)

[tall notch]

Im not sure but id assume you have to do it on your 2nd again

[worn sonnet]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/75e4548b0a3dee141077f3fbba62abb2/4f5d6f9de5e33a70-5e/s250x400/e63f0b375386815d81f53a62c8ed6d474f403505.gif

Has any endgamers got the ruby star equinox yet?

I'm too scared of the channel to look

[teal lynx]

The 100 Cards? Yeah easy

[vapid warren]

When it comes to straight up damage numbers on the character stats page, is there classes that get much more higher damage? If so which ones? Just wanna make sure im not neglecting something for some chars

[teal lynx]

Sb gets the highest damage

[normal minnow]

btw xaya wat are the alch bubbles that have the highest dmg boost to an account THAT ISNT QS

[vapid warren]

Hmmm rn ES has highest

[tall notch]

Yeah my sb is sittinf at 2t while my others are sub 600m

[open lava]

ive been neglecting dmg and just focusing on artifacts for the last few weeks

[whole slate]

same

[open lava]

my es still on that chopping setup

anyways i realised es was mid-ish and im a bubo fanatic now

[teal lynx]

Name I guess. But it's just a worse QS that can be hourly clicked
So not too bad
Other stuff would just be main stats (bubble 1, working with Crystal steak from Sailing) and the last bubbles that give damage per 250 or 500 stats you have.

[whole slate]

bubo takes a lot to setup

[normal minnow]

i see alright thanks

[open lava]

lucky for me im 90% of the way done :p

[fading oracle]

which map am i satue farming on bubo for the monolith quest?

[tall notch]

Beans i guess

[open lava]

almost there 🙏

[teal lynx]

Probably wurms for the extra CC progress and keys

[shy flame]

wurms \

[teal lynx]

The other thing would be Bubo on Frogs

[whole slate]

what abt big meaty claws?

[tall notch]

Aw i just made luckier lad without realizing divine scarf needs lucky bois

[whole slate]

nice

[open lava]

that one is the worst of the 3

[fading oracle]

why frogs and not beans?

[teal lynx]

We don't talk about big claws here 🫡

[whole slate]

alr

[sacred verge]

bubo frogs > everything

[teal lynx]

Higher Mob count and Bubos poison can get every mob there

[whole slate]

true the scaling is slower even if health is easiest to gain

[tall notch]

Why not level QS tho

[fading oracle]

thanks for the advice 🙂

[shy flame]

big meaty claws main

[sweet pine]

DK beans and ES pots

[normal minnow]

QS is very late game, better stuff to focus on earlier

[whole slate]

cutting corners be like

[teal lynx]

QS is mostly an atom only bubble. And those Atoms can be used for better stuff

[tall notch]

Fair enough

[sacred verge]

my bubo has currently killed 20B frogs

[worn sonnet]

Can't wait for three more lots of skill mastery

[open lava]

more hydrogen?

[tall notch]

Yeah get it to 18%

[whole slate]

i should build atom collider sometime

[open lava]

aight

[open lava]

its mid fr unless big sample

[sacred verge]

no.no.no that can wait untill mid w6

[open lava]

speaking of which i should really sample

only getting 15 atoms an hour

[sweet pine]

true, im SB for w6 shiny pets atm

[whole slate]

everyday i get like 20+ atoms so ill do decent in the beginning

[sacred verge]

SB for shiny? that dosent sound effective 😛

[open lava]

you mean every hour right

[sweet pine]

6 of them are lvl 1

i do what i must

[sacred verge]

but BM is the one to use for shiny

[sweet pine]

oh right

i'm using BM

my bad

[sacred verge]

no worries 😛

[glacial venture]

at least the base class was correct^^

[whole slate]

listen i havent worked on my Boxes and prowessary in a while

[tall notch]

Yeah id recommend sampling every 2 or so weeks after getting more and more progress

[sweet pine]

brain damaged a bit after few cogs clicking

[open lava]

why is this artifact not ancienting oml

[lapis elm]

BM arc

[whole slate]

which one?

[sacred verge]

thats why i avoid cogs clicking..

[open lava]

the printer output

[sweet pine]

im trying to get T7 plants so cogs is the only choice left atm

[sacred verge]

even more important that anything, this needs uppppp

[tall notch]

Fml thats 4x the anount i get

[whole slate]

im working on t5 ik im a noob

[sweet pine]

but your mind still stable

[whole slate]

yeah

[sweet pine]

i'm charging my sanity so i can endure w6 pet battles

[shy flame]

pro gamer move is to simply go insane

[open lava]

screw dmg how many obol frags u got

[whole slate]

just used em recently so 0

[open lava]

i have 1400 saved up

[whole slate]

finna take a while

[somber lance]

i was 250 when i unlocked that one. still took like a month

[tall notch]

Level call me bob and check construction on your bb first, you get like doible cons xp that way

[whole slate]

finally

[whole slate]

if i counted the amount of resources i have used since the year began it would be around 50b

[glacial venture]

others waste that in half a day^^

[uncut owl]

About 7-8 mins to get 150 PS

I am happy

It 's gonna be easy

[sacred verge]

time to greenstack

[uncut owl]

haha

[glacial venture]

you need 200 gs anyway for equinox

so go start now

[sacred verge]

GS is easy 😛

[open lava]

im gonna gamble my gem savings away in hopes of an ancient

wish me luck

[glacial venture]

dont do it

w6 is around the corner with new gemshop stuff

[open lava]

its a 1 in 5 chance for fury :>

[open lava]

im like ages away from w6 i think 🤔

[sacred verge]

i would save for w6

[open lava]

....ok ill save

[sacred verge]

smart decision

[patent hatch]

Don’t listen to him, buy candies with gems

[sacred verge]

dont spoil the endgame secrets

we need to hold back the people!

[open lava]

done :p

[open lava]

ancient fury is messing with me its both close and far away at the same time

[sacred verge]

all boats to fury island!

[uncut owl]

gs?

[sacred verge]

gs = greenstack

[uncut owl]

aah

yeah, I know

I have only 120

[open lava]

that or i ancient everything so i can gem shop the ancient fury

[open lava]

which one you think i should do?

[sacred verge]

id send all boats to fury island as long as they make it in 2-3 hours

maybe even 4

depends how often you check

[open lava]

easiest decision ever

[proven iron]

Someone said, that with my sailing progress it should be easy for me to get to 31 in the rift and finally get ancient artifacts. And now i can say with condifence, that... ||hell no, not a chance, lmao. Its not even close.||

[sharp egret]

I am playing citric defense with far too many krakens and only one poison (using someones setup for their 160 run) I mean it is working I will beat the current boss wave (120) and thus be at least 10 wave further than before, but since i don't want to try to get quite that far I could probably have at least used two poisons^^

[proven iron]

Honestly i hit a bit of a rodablock. I dont really know how to scale my damage well at that point. I'm finishing w5 right now, i advanced far in sailing, gaming, breeding, cooking, etc. Have decently high prints. And now i wonder how to push my damage from like 150m to err... anything higher pretty much. Because rift wont budge if I dont.

[whole slate]

how are we sharing the same dmg even tho u got ancients i have 1

[proven iron]

Well i'm efficiently checking sailing every single day like 10 times a day, with sailing time procs etc.

So i waaaay further advanced into sailing than average

Sailing is pretty easy if you are just active

[pine yacht]

1h worth of DK on bloodbones ( + 2 LLs )

[proven iron]

Also the exact problem is that i reached 150m ages ago and this number more or less does not change at all.

Because there's not much reliable sources of extra damage.

[whole slate]

alch

[proven iron]

I mean, yeah i spend alch daily, and print resources on everyone for it and the progress is miniscule. And i'm not even capped on liquid but on materials.

[sharp egret]

most alch progress comes from atoms for me (well and the like 10 daily +3 to the weakest but you can't control that)

[lilac bolt]

what should i focus now

[fast grail]

Alch>print>repeat feedback loop needs fairly frequent sampling, if you only have 150m damage, you still have quite a bit to go in alch for early/mid game

[proven iron]

Well i still have quite a way to go with just normal materials, my prints are not at the limit of what they can be in relatively short ammount of time. And i just started to get decent ammount of atoms. But still i just dont really see the way too boost damage that much... Though anyway w6 will come soon and i'll probably just get some ridiculous upgrades from there to catch up, lol.

[proven iron]

Can you rate how far it is?

[teal lynx]

Most Alch damage (not counting Quickslap or Name I guess) comes from Bubble 1, 2, 17 and 25 + Crystal Steak Artifact in combination with Bubble 1 + 17

[proven iron]

I probably need to spam bubbles 1 tbh, i do have resources for them.

[fast grail]

That alch needs some help, your GT is about to be hit by nblb

[sharp egret]

btw is your skill point cap high enough to get the 3 second reduction with bubo? if so I would finish up unlocking bubbles since it takes barely any time

[proven iron]

I get 40k seconds from cranium with partially functional loop.

[fast grail]

Even without 3 sec tenty, you can still get fairly ok cc rates, in the 20-60k range

[proven iron]

"Barely any time at all" is most likely 2 weeks of active bubo at least.

[sharp egret]

nice it seems I will get wave 130 for citric conflict too, should make the vial much faster

[proven iron]

This one is actually hellpfull, i probably need to try to max out bubble 1 as much as i can and get crystal steak.

[sharp egret]

2 weeks? that seems too high, I did it in like a day shortly after getting to 3 sec, dunno how the rest of my account compared though took me a bit to upgrade the sailing artifact hmm

question about 1, since it is a total bonus isn't it just added on top and thus kinda weak until you can stack a lot of it? (though it does get multiplied by 2)

[sweet pine]

his FMJ is higher than GT those , you must be proud of him

[warm juniper]

hey guys i have been struggling unlocking the 5-6th tier plants in gaming, though they would be nice for extra bits, is there an optimal way to unlock them?

[teal lynx]

I get around 20-25% of my total stats from bubble 1

[proven iron]

Yeah actually looking at it, it doesnt seem that i get that much of a bonus for crystal steak. Its around +35% total only,

[somber lance]

rock on and pray

[tacit tulip]

it's really a case of those stats adding up over time

[teal lynx]

So around 6.6k stats from my total 27k
Edit: And all of this from clicking the bubble from time to time. When logging in, right before bed and with every Printer go brrr proc. And occasionally when I remember

[proven iron]

Well people advised to try and use kitsune rock. But thats probably requires you to be VERY active.

[warm juniper]

yeah i can try being VERY active, they just feel so rare

[teal lynx]

You already got Chem unlocked?

[somber lance]

chem is the last one i belive

[teal lynx]

If you do. Then have 2-3 of the Plants you want for Tier 5/6 and chem chain till you get them

[sharp egret]

6 is rare but happens, but I don't think I will even try for 7...

[teal lynx]

We also have those Calculators for Gaming Plants: #1106590058947035247 message

[warm juniper]

im usually trying to unlock with 0,5-0,7% odds, been doing that for 2 weeks, didn't get lucky yet

[teal lynx]

Go for 0.1%

More tries > Higher Chance

[proven iron]

Yeah there's nothing much else you can do.

[warm juniper]

alright, then i will use rock for more mutations

[proven iron]

You can try using elephant divinity and alchemy bubbles for AFK to gaming to get more tries.

[somber lance]

just use the chance whenever you can. the returns are diminishing

[fast grail]

Indeed
Just like mine

my FMJ is jus about double the level of my GT

[warm juniper]

if it says 0,0% i still have a chance right? its just rounded down

[somber lance]

honestly idk. I'd wait for 0.1 just to be sure.

[warm juniper]

yeah not like 0,1 is hard to obtain lmao

[sharp egret]

with 145k I have a 0.3% chance for the next tier, if there is ever an extra mutation added I hope that chance gets increased a bit^^

[proven iron]

Ah i see what i'm missing for alchemy chains yes, tentacle should be at 200+ lvl exactly to get 3 sec. What a great game mechanic.

[sharp egret]

Ah yes that treshold makes a gigantic difference

[proven iron]

My current library books are 194 (need to spend some blue salt to get more) so i can get it with just a bit of rolling

[lyric sequoia]

Level up your ES, family bonus innit

[somber lance]

wait u got ancient book arti before salt pile or what?

[lyric sequoia]

Or put bubo on bear

[proven iron]

Yes i did

[lyric sequoia]

Or be lucky and pull slug pet

[proven iron]

I mean i just didnt have spare salt

Refinery is ass.

Now with elephant it starts to chug along

So i might spend a bit

I'm just progressing very fast so refinery didnt catch up at all

[somber lance]

im preety sure i got max book from pile before getting to w5

[lyric sequoia]

I’m confused how you only have +1 extra levels if your book level for tent is 194

[proven iron]

Well its not that expensive, just 4 lvls of skills is not that much of a benefit usually

[lyric sequoia]

Even symbols would put you over at that level

[proven iron]

Obviously how

I didnt roll it perfectly

But yeah with 3 seconds i probably really need to get to alchemy

[sharp egret]

on a good map it is silly how often the revive skill starts popping up, also great to farm some money

[somber lance]

oj bay all the way

[proven iron]

You need to get damage first for that

[somber lance]

i needed like 1 bil to go infinite

[sharp egret]

btw talking about dmg i wonder whether crits will get another tier at some point, crit chance has become utterly pointless

[proven iron]

I need to get green crits somehow but the book is too rare

[somber lance]

whats the prayer strat guys? is it worth going no prayers in any cases?

[tacit tulip]

99.9% of the time no

there's one use case for no prayers and you're unlikely to be at that point

(the use is DK in colo 2, for 20% midas as it's buggy with the health curse)

[glacial venture]

only if you dont want giants or you get to 90% sample size without a prayer...even then still mostly pointless^^

[proven iron]

Damn i really need to get megacrit. Its insane damage boost considering i almost at 200% critrate

[sharp egret]

yeah rolling the previous flurbo book until it was at 100 was a pita, though partly because I just't don't like playing the dungeon all that much

[glacial venture]

what are green crits?

[somber lance]

the super crits from dungeon book

[glacial venture]

only see green crits at random event boss^^

[tacit tulip]

really wish he'd fix that

I know it's completely visual, but the green looks so nice

[somber lance]

im happy it can only roll every 4th lvl instead of every lvl

[proven iron]

I still need to max out flurbo talents for equinox so no green crits for me for a few weeks

[sharp egret]

nice I am getting wave 140 for citric defense too, spamming kraken and slow really is the superior strategry^^ super slow though

[proven iron]

I wonder how fast i can farm flurbos without tickets

[sharp egret]

slow as fuck^^ might be faster to farm gems to buy more tickets per week^^

[lapis elm]

It's real slow

No hh grinding for flurbos is honestly a waste

[somber lance]

unless you want achievement for jobs

[proven iron]

Yeah thats actually true i'll probably try to finish achievements maybe

ANd grind some flurbos at the same time

I killed 4th frog solo with 2 minutes left when i used more than 0.1% of my brain. So i'm probably decently strong at dungeons now and maybe can try to kill 3rd boss in other dungeons

[lapis elm]

I hate how td basically just devolves into "Please don't crash. Please don't crash. Please don't crash."

[tacit tulip]

if you can do frog 4 you can do snake 3 for sure - it just requires a bit of thought

ice boss 3 should be fine, too.

[somber lance]

atleast you can turn dmg numbers off

[sharp egret]

it is pretty stable for me but this is also the first time I go above 130

[somber lance]

is 130 forest doable with poison 45?

[safe harness]

I think 130 might be the easy one if you can clear 120.. i think my poison was about there when i last did and i lost on 140

[tacit tulip]

yeah, worship spikes every 30, with the 10 waves after being easier

[sharp egret]

it is a mini game so I can't complain too much but that later bosses are basically just waiting once there are few enough creeps from prior waves to not overwhelm kraken is annoying design, well the equinox upgrade has made that a bit better

[whole slate]

drops after 33 chiz forgot midas prayer.-.

[somber lance]

sword olobs are bait. get rid of them asap

[safe harness]

you might be about ready for the PoP es grind

[somber lance]

obols'

[sacred verge]

all of those obols are bait

[whole slate]

ill do that after i dementia em

[sacred verge]

need DR

[quartz crystal]

+1slab

[whole slate]

except chiz money and slush

[sacred verge]

chiz money and slush? wdym

[somber lance]

should i actually try to slab my obols or does it become easier later?

[safe harness]

by the time you can farm obol shards efficienly to dementia, you will have all the obols needed to dementia them in like 20 minutes of farming...you should get rid of them now and go DR until you have choco chip and better crystal spawn chance

[whole slate]

im waiting for c chip

[sacred verge]

the only obols you currently need is DR obols and cons obols

[safe harness]

you can farm pop obols at giga frogs now

[sacred verge]

kruk when you get there

thats what is important

[whole slate]

yeah im working on it

[whole slate]

i alr killed him even his chaotic vers

[sacred verge]

well you still need DR obols

the fact that you pushed to kruk without dr obols is insane

you got much more important stuff to do than pushing etc

[safe harness]

make sure to reroll bronze pop to 3%, and dont combine to silver until you fill your obols out with the 3% bronze....Then as you upgrade....add the 3% bronze to the left side and a 2% bronze to right. Swap the silver 4% with a 3% in obol slot and repeat...gives you extra dr as you farm

[whole slate]

yeah

[whole slate]

i missed c chip last rotation.-.

[sacred verge]

that dosent matter

you can still farm pop obols (no chips needed)

and pushing aint gonna help for anything

[safe harness]

c chip is great, but you will still need DR and crystal chance...which is poop and demon genie cards....doublers also help as well as the boring bring crystal stamp

[quartz crystal]

Whens the next card doubler out

[sacred verge]

you can look that up in IT

[twin token]

U don't need c.chip to farm pop obols

They don't come from crystals

[whole slate]

fuck

[steep flame]

es technically better than dk for pop, right?

[sacred verge]

funny that its 7 months

[whole slate]

ik

[twin token]

Not technically, he just is

[cyan mantle]

Is this bad my lvl 116 es does more damage than all of my other characters besides my lvl 189 es

[twin token]

No

[steep flame]

read the talents

[cyan mantle]

And most of my other characters are lvl 130+

[sacred verge]

times will change 😛

[twin token]

Mages do more damage naturally than other charachters

[sacred verge]

before you know its SB is 10x the sheet dmg

[twin token]

Yeah

[whole slate]

sometimes

[twin token]

Yh forgor abt sb

[cyan mantle]

I mean sheet damage

[twin token]

When u get some statues ur sb dmg will shoot up

[whole slate]

whats wrong with it?

[twin token]

Yh es is the second highest damaging class

[steep flame]

Ehrm... Sheet?

[twin token]

The numbers that show u0 next to ur charachter

Like 100 - 500 dmg

[steep flame]

Oh, fair

I called that "base" damage, even though it's wrong

[sacred verge]

base dmg is something else

[steep flame]

yeah, dmg before multis

[cyan mantle]

Dmg after multis is sheet damage is it not

[steep flame]

Never heard the term

[twin token]

Yes

[steep flame]

That's why I was confused

[twin token]

Idk what to call dmg after skills tho

[steep flame]

true(?) damage

[cyan mantle]

Max damage

[steep flame]

or real damage

is what I'd use I guess

heck, even actual damage

"The damage you really deal"

[sacred verge]

Dps is a measure for that

or stuff like damage done etc

biggest / highest hit

[cyan mantle]

My lvl 116 es does around 300k more than my sb

Should change when I get a higher sailing lvl though

[steep flame]

196 ES vs 290 SB

[sacred verge]

551 bubo

[steep flame]

[cyan mantle]

My 189 es does 6m damage

But I gotta fix alchemy alot

[sacred verge]

same

waiting for w6 to fix my alch

[steep flame]

As long as you can push, you're good

[sacred verge]

need minimum 10k mainstat bubble

[twin token]

Nah not based on sailing level

It's based on ur movement speed

[cyan mantle]

It's gonna take me 3 days to push through the fire skulls portal

[twin token]

When u get onyx statues your sb dmg will shoot up

[cyan mantle]

I should really start getting statues for that guys quest

[twin token]

Don't do it if u don't have chocolate chip

[steep flame]

^

start getting the things you need for c chip

towards the end of the month

[cyan mantle]

Well I don't got chocolate chip and I'm trying to get the stuff but I won't met the amount needed by the end of this month

[steep flame]

Are you sure?
What are you missing?

[cyan mantle]

The anvil materials

[twin token]

When does c.chip come into rotation?

[steep flame]

anvil is probs the easiest

[twin token]

Farm money and the mob materials

[cyan mantle]

End of this month

[cyan mantle]

Roughly

[sacred verge]

the anvil mats are literally so easy...

comon

[steep flame]

You're w5, right?

[sacred verge]

stop pushing and wasting time and get going on something usefull

[steep flame]

Can easily get all w2 drops and all money upgrades

[steep flame]

it's ~12 void coins/character

[cyan mantle]

[steep flame]

make it 13

[sacred verge]

get all chars producing

[steep flame]

^

[cyan mantle]

I don't got that amount

[sacred verge]

uppgrade hammer hammer

and if you must, you candy

[sharp egret]

do you have all anvil upgrades? did you change everyone to produce it? can you upgrade the bubble because it scales very well with it?

[sacred verge]

all chars need to be at production speed only

[cyan mantle]

Don't know about the bubbles not everyone is producing it and no I don't got all the anvil upgrades

[steep flame]

You don't have to max. Later levels are more expensive, just push as far as you can

[sacred verge]

then how come you not get the stuff in order

[cyan mantle]

I am right now

[sacred verge]

perfect

it should be very achieveable withing a week

[steep flame]

This is with 4 slots

You should be good if you have 30 slots dedicated to them

[sacred verge]

send you IE Reaper and il take a look and see if theres anythign you can fix quick @cyan mantle

[steep flame]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=REDerdex

Wanna do mine to while you're at it?

[sacred verge]

for what? like what do you need?

[cyan mantle]

I'm making pinion spurs and that's my speed and capacity on one character

[steep flame]

General advice mostly.

I feel like I've been slacking really hard in some places, but I don't know where

This is my DK's anvil

[steep flame]

are you on an archer?

[sacred verge]

first off, claim stuff. companions, buildings. make sure to look at mainpage for some easy info on that stuff

[cyan mantle]

Yes

[steep flame]

Got all companions, that's why I'm ignoring them. Unless a new rotation comes out... at some point, I won't touch that again xD

[cyan mantle]

I have enough iron to up the anvil production alot but I don't got the liquids

[sacred verge]

put all points more or less into speed, and uppgrade hammer hammer bubble (green bubble)

[sacred verge]

cc then

[cyan mantle]

Well he's pushing w4 what's the best w4 mob for cc

[steep flame]

flombs/sodas

probs sodas

[cyan mantle]

Ok

[steep flame]

current plan is to try and push skill mastery a bit, and upgrade all weapons/tools

[sacred verge]

@steep flamestamps, get more lvls in every stamp you can. alch needs love, bubo CC and unlock every bubble and try to work on lvling up those you can ( im betting you lack resources etc but its something to work on

also unlock all vials asap

[steep flame]

yep, doing all vial attemps daily. That I actually didn't ignore

[sacred verge]

good good

[steep flame]

which ones should I try to max first?

Or do I just do the ones I have mats for?

[sacred verge]

go for the ones you have mats for

cooking is something to work on aswell. aim for the diamond chef bubble and then all meals to lvl 11 (big boost to speed which will get you into the vman speed buff)

[pastel bramble]

anyone got a screenshot of lavas message saying how many vials/stamps/bubbles etc. in w6?

[sacred verge]

if you got gems i would consider buying jewels from gemshop, you cant get duplicated there so they are nice

[glacial venture]

10

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/438216759120756737

no info about stamps and bubbles are all the same in each world

always 5 per color

[steep flame]

Think I'll try to get the easier ones out of the way first, there's some stuff that's really far off, so I'd rather get those instead of spending gems to get "free" ones

[sacred verge]

@steep flameit does look too bad, card farming is also something you would wanna do eventually. do you have DR obols?

[steep flame]

I mainly have problems with critters. Should I just put everyone on nat boxes for a few days and get to royal asap?

At this point, I don't think it'd hurt xD

[steep flame]

nop

can't really farm them either, they're still slow

That's why I've been putting it back for so long

[glacial venture]

pop obols?

[sacred verge]

slow but worth it

you should not wait. do it now

[glacial venture]

low dr makes so much other stuff slow too

[static basin]

meals and spices being plural is exciting :D

[sacred verge]

i would generally say, as soon as you hit w5 its time for pop obols

[steep flame]

I want full pop on everyone, right?

[sacred verge]

nah 1 set is enough

[normal minnow]

2

[sacred verge]

family and personal set tho

[normal minnow]

cus family also

[steep flame]

Oh, and just swap to active farmer

makes sense

[normal minnow]

yep

[proven iron]

[steep flame]

xD

[normal minnow]

now get them all to silver

[proven iron]

I farmed onyx statues on frogs

[sacred verge]

thats just too much

[pale jay]

Remember to reroll to boost misc bonus, too

[sacred verge]

you want atleast a set of cons obols

[proven iron]

Yeah they are all rerolled

[steep flame]

Just realized. How do you keep multiple sets in general?

So 1 skilling set for each skill, pop & whatever else might be needed.
Not sure how much extra space you can buy, but even with max, is it enough?

[proven iron]

You dont

[pale jay]

You gotta pick and choose a bit, sadly

[steep flame]

#player-suggestions make obols passive 🙂

[static basin]

i havent bought a single obol storage space, just chill like this

[normal minnow]

nice names

very efficient

[prisma drift]

Let’s go god rank 5

Only 133b for 100% god rank 6

[wicked dirge]

does the DK printer talent for orb kills apply to all characters or only for the DK?

[teal lynx]

All Characters. You can see the multiplier in the 3D Printer Screen

[cobalt nymph]

if your last character isn't called FrancisGG11 just to fuck with people I'm dissapointed

[static basin]

for some reason i named my 7th char FrancisGGM, for Maestro, i might make char 11 FrancisGG7 lmao

[cobalt nymph]

this entertains me, it works I'm proud

[wicked dirge]

where should i farm on the DK? is there a specific map recommended?

[teal lynx]

Depends on what you want to accomplish. For different statues check out the Crystal guide from me and the Statue guide from Trickz, which is pinned in this Channel
For most value farm Crystals at Beans in W1

If you just want kills. Then Citringes or Wurms in W5 (depending on your damage and talent levels) are recommended

[wicked dirge]

i dont have choco chip so i dont think crystals are worth doing right? i think ill wait till i get it

so yeah just kills for the printer for now

[sick sentinel]

Choco chip at the end of the month so prep now!

[wicked dirge]

im ready for it luckily

but i couldnt afford the gem this week

[pine yacht]

anyone have breakpoints for money regarding how much DR u have ?

[static basin]

those money breakpoint charts and graphs are fucked ngl

[fading plover]

i got this

[elfin cape]

Should keep following the odd number of DR I think

Like 15x, 17x, 19, etc...

[static basin]

i did so much testing with dr and money%, and replacing any piece of money% with dr was a loss, even when pushing from like 16.5x up to 17.01x, a money multi loss

[elfin cape]

Did you check actual money drops, or look at IT / the spreadsheet?

[static basin]

IT's money multi

and also did one test in game

changing a few money multi cards to dr cards to hit the next odd number was less money per hour

[elfin cape]

DK or Bubo?

[static basin]

DK

[elfin cape]

Interesting, but is it a noticeable decrease?

[static basin]

yeah, i cant remember the exact numbers by now, but it was significant enough that i had to swap back to money% cards

same with obols, money% squares beat dr, the goo gear with like 5% money multi beat kattle gear with dr etc etc

[prisma drift]

I also found the same thing

Going with like 17X dr and a full money build was a lot more money then a full dr build with money subbed in

[glad crow]

so you use stuff like honk helmet and goo rings/boots or do you just use kruk? (when moneyfarming that is)

and what about beachball trophy?

[static basin]

yeah all money%

[prisma drift]

Beachboy is fat money

[pastel bramble]

thanks, so it doesnt actuall say how many of each darn 😄

[glad crow]

guess i should swap to that when farming money then

[prisma drift]

The money trophy alone seemed like more money than a DR tier

[glad crow]

and is this on both dk and bubo?

i cant see why it wouldnt, im stupid lul

[prisma drift]

Money chains

[static basin]

i got a 17 and a 14

[prisma drift]

I just scrap em

[glad crow]

and what are your cardlayout?

[prisma drift]

Double crystal cards and then money cards

[dim wind]

actually got a 17 and 14 as well, and I go from 900M% to 990M% with just them so it's worth about 10%

[glad crow]

and scarf over tooth is just because it gives more base stat for money bubbles right?

and what tier is the money keychains?

[signal osprey]

Money chains are T1

[dim wind]

just tier 1

[prisma drift]

Atm money is pretty useless besides flex

So I’m gonna not grind keychains got it

[static basin]

the difference between scarf and tooth was 0 for me, i find all stat% gear was very minimal for the bubbles multi

[signal osprey]

People seriously overestimate how strong all stat% is

Its good

[static basin]

like the premium all stat hat and wings seemed to not change the money multi at all

[signal osprey]

But not that good

[prisma drift]

The all stat chat ring gave me a noticeable bump tbh

10% gave me a small bump

[static basin]

the all stat rings are giving u a bump over the goo rings?

[prisma drift]

The chat ring for equinox

[static basin]

because they are a straight loss for me

[signal osprey]

Premium ring

[prisma drift]

Not the actual ring

[static basin]

ohhh

[signal osprey]

And yeah its a big stat bump because of the flat stats it gives

If it was just 10% stats it would be far less impressive

[prisma drift]

It has 35 Wis for me

Big gains

[glad crow]

only managed to get two 14% keychain :C

[elfin cape]

Yeah, it doesn't affect bubble 1, which is most of your main stat, plus there are a shit ton of sources

Same as % damage being trash (ofc all stat has fewer sources than % damage, so not as bad)

[static basin]

good point, the chat ring compared to nothing in the slot is +3% total to my money multi

[signal osprey]

This is my DK strength with and without the chat ring lol

15 strength from +1 strength on gear

[heavy socket]

Quick question, is there anything besides this 1 bribe that lowers the coins needed to upgrade a stamp?

[dim wind]

nothing else comes to mind

[heavy socket]

Ok, cause on IE someone has 6x the coins costs that i have, ig thats just a visual bug then

[prisma drift]

Big gains

[tall notch]

Just spent a whole fuckton of candies to onyx oceanman statues. 3 remaining

[tacit tulip]

3 more soon 😉

[teal lynx]

Those Money% bubbles are pretty huge for money, right?
So using a day worth of Atoms for this and the green one should give me quite some money?
I will continue to hourly click the purple one

[frank harbor]

Thanks for reminding me of this. My money is becoming a soft lock for me on stamps.

[sacred verge]

gmush

[teal lynx]

I would rather spent a days worth of atoms on those bubbles than get another 200B Gmush

[glad crow]

where is it i can farm money obols?

[sacred verge]

its a much bigger contribution towards money

[elfin cape]

Get 2T more Gmush

[sacred verge]

it was ment more towards the other guy

[static basin]

w2 crystals

silver squares, upgrade to gold squares and then ur done

[sacred verge]

are those better than DR for money ?

[static basin]

ye

[glad crow]

i must be blind, i cant find it in the drop rewards thingy

[static basin]

oh it might be me having bad memory

[sacred verge]

w1 crystals

for money obol

[static basin]

yeah w1, my mistake

[glad crow]

[signal osprey]

Those bubbles will be the 2nd biggest money bonus for most people yeah

[lean snow]

Hey I know this might be a stupid question but for colour alchemy cauldron does the amount of liquid you can store in them have a cap

[signal osprey]

No

[glad crow]

what level should we push them to?

ofcourse hourly the ones we can

[lean snow]

O ok thank you though it would cap at 1030 like storage

[signal osprey]

I never really bothered using atoms on them. I just print for purple/orange and green is on nblb

[static basin]

level 1050 is 17.5%, hardcap is 18%

[glad crow]

and dk is just a better moneygrinder than bubo in every way, right?

[static basin]

yeah, for me i get like ~70% more money on DK compared to bubo

[glad crow]

guess i should increase dk cooking level then

[sinful aspen]

Every greenstack counts right?

[glad crow]

should i push to 60 or just stay at 50?

[teal lynx]

Go to 70

[glad crow]

only got 12k balloons though

[teal lynx]

I did my DK to 70 yesterday. 8k balloons did it for me
And I only doubled cards

[sinful aspen]

Every Greenstack.

[glad crow]

from 60 to 70 it took 70?

[teal lynx]

50 -> 70 was around 8k balloons

[glad crow]

do we still need to go 1 level above for the bonus to work?

[shy flame]

cooking level stay at 1 ty

[teal lynx]

For Vman right/left hand?
That doesn't work on Cooking afaik
And never heard of something like that for the Star Talent

[spice meadow]

Greenstack candies when?

[glad crow]

meant for the star talent, but it could just have been misinformation i had heard

[teal lynx]

Maybe some other person got info on that

I will test it for you

[sinful aspen]

Slower there if I'm honest

[teal lynx]

56% per 10 levels. So it just seems to give the normal 5.6%

[glad crow]

wait so it isnt a "every 10 levels get this bonus" type of deal?

didnt know that

[fathom lagoon]

Fk me man 1.4m nug to 1.55m. Feels bad

But on the bright side got eldritch Socrates

[spring jasper]

folks what did you level larry to? i reached my goal of 101% and kinda dont think more is worth

[sacred verge]

more is worth

get it to something like 1k

[glad crow]

i pushed mine to 110% and know that i have every skilling bubble at 90% im pushing for 115%

[sacred verge]

atleast 750

[spring jasper]

sounds reasonable

i think my skill bubbles are a higher priority atm

i don't even know when this MF finally becomes atomable

[sacred verge]

probably like 2 more lvls and its good for atom

2 more clicks

[manic moat]

when that 86.6M turns to 100m+

[spring jasper]

nice

cause this is gonna take a while

my nail production is trash

[manic moat]

increase hammer hammer and assign it to everyone

[shy flame]

I've seen a google sheet saying egg rarity affects pet power, is there any datasheet or patch notes to support that?

[spring jasper]

i got the companion for that

[manic moat]

then increase hammer hammer, it will increase pretty fast

[spring jasper]

from my personal experience yes,

[spring jasper]

lemme check

[sacred verge]

you can candy the anvil mats aswell

[shy flame]

That's the opposite of a data sheet or patch notes

[sacred verge]

and bargain tag helps alot

shouldnt be too bad