#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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okay those are the one im keeping thanks
Tools > item browser.
oh
i should have taken a look at the tools tab
thank you xD
only have 1 of the 20% ones
that was getting kinda close 
yea its missing a 0

is there a trick to not lose your build up equinox bonus to a slightly better nugg? am i doing something wrong?
no there isn't, those were deemed exploits and patched out
welp i didnt even knew those existed
i also click alot but it hurts me to lose 3k nugg progress to a nugg thats like 2k better than the last 
If I am diligent, I can get bobjoepickle to 2 before W6 launch
me too
meh just keep clicking
i will
spend your gold stopwatches 
I can't even break 10K nuggie so...
im on 1,7m
do you have the equinox upgrade, once I rushed that I started getting much better nugs
nope. stuck on other things like refinery upgrades
save em for W6?
That's what smart people do, I live with the cavemen 
fairs
No$ left oof
so i maxed the fight and drop boxes for my vman. What should be the next box to start on?
mana for Cooldown?
i dont use him actively though
better be using the BRRRR printer
I like atoms
what about ES? dmg or drop rate?
to achiv 200 GS is a must GS statues ?
not a must
there's something like 215 feasible greenstacks atm
but statues are like 2 weeks for 5 greenstacks, not including the other potential greenstacks from crystals, and u want statues anyway to hand in after completing the dream
either way tho, 15 days until w6 and ur getting a super easy 25 greenstacks there
Alot of people myself included do some statues because they've either missed some quest gstacks or they just don't want to do some of the other gstacks for 200
ye these ones
well im actually gated on equinox dungeons
dont know how to do this boring stuff
but i'm prog for when next week finish 200 bob
100*
can yall give me some assistance on like two things, first, equinox stuff and second farming power statues cos i wanna get the onyx statue
My critters per trap are somehow halved despite having the same efficiency as the last time I trapped... what the heck am I missing. VMan is specced for epoch.
DK on the beans map with choco chips is the way to og
How many of those statues do you have deposited?
Do you have choco chip? Itโs neccessary
nope
these are my levels, i think these are actually pretty low compared to most others around the same point as me
Save these for a month itโs coming end of February.
Then you can actually active and get. Completely different game with choco chip @cursive lichen
thank you very much
is there a set schedule on which jewels and stuff are available?
welp i dont have cheese, onwards!
Yeah there is. I donโt have it though just know about choco coming. maybe search around here on discord
Oops meant for my previous message to be a reply, i found this.
Is it normal to be lvl 120+ gaming and still not have the last plant unlocked?
nope im 116 without second las
do we have a guide on how to make 777 achievement of trades?
I did write a mini guide for someone a couple weeks back: #lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message
I keep getting the same sample rate even though I change a lot of stuff, any ideas? (sampling gmush on BM, changing card set (10% afk vs 30% drop) and all foods have 0 impact on sample
afk% definitely should have an impact, but drop rate isn't a factor when sampling
that's why I dont get why it wont go up if I add the 10% card preset
even leaving the map and coming back makes no diff
nvm was putting on 10% skill afk... force of habit
still though, none of these things change the sample rate
yeah, I wouldn't expect them to unless it gave you a new damage tier
they'd have to give you another mk tier for it to change
Your factors are:
MK tier
MK per tier
respawn speed
afk%
and that's it
Movespeed and attack speed matter too
There's some other factors, like movespeed and afk from talents, but those cap quite easily
Yup yup
things to note are that kill per kill and the kill doublers (lab, nobisect) don't actually increase base monster drops
so they don't help, either
Yeah ๐
makes me wonder if its even worth printing referiny materials on my BM, didn't expect the numbers to be this low
better just print flies and occasionally spend an hour on an ES to gather...
I generally don't bother, either. my BM prints flies
vman does all the monster printing
BM is for copper ore 
nah, the fisher is for copper ore ๐
BM for extra PO6 mats 
are w3 statues just so much slower than other worlds? im using es on bloques with 14dr for seesaw statues and its taking ages
for bubonic wurm active grind
Which armor is better?
magma or divinity (top and bottom)
my bubo is full magma
yeah, Soul, trap, seesaw, and accuracy statues are just painful
๐ค How muchcranium time do you get?
will depend on crystal chance, cookin roadkill bubble, CC talent, Aura talent, Tenteyecle talent but i'd guess 300k+
varies yeah, around 360k with choco but no doublers, if I put proper chips on 400-430k
839 cr bubble
I will continue with my magma set... Thanks for your answers
Also pc instead of mobile was a big increase
anybody figure out the logic for one of the divine tropy? i got wings pre-quest and now i am trying to proc the quest completion without getting lucky twice
have to drop wings from boss after you get the quest
is there a way for to know what captains bonuses are GOING to be
becuase idfk what my captains were when i bought them if they lv 10 now
Divide by 10 if they're lvl 10 now
IT also shows their base stats
that simle
each lvl is just the starting stats x lvl
where does it show the base stat?
ty
Account>World 5>Sailing>Boats and Captains tab
The number in parenthases are the starting stats
How tf you getting 430k with only 839 bubble. Im getting 400k with 1500 bubble
I must be doing something wrong
Idk lol
if you wanna see, bubo not on proper boxing gloves atm cuz afk
which col is best for gems?
If you want gems from colo itself W2 if you want to farm bosses afterward for more W3
Colo 1 helped me Ruby my baba yaga card 
I need to ruby mine too
but fuck that
I'd still need to wait for cardifiers because I always forget about dr def
Getting better 
feels like I've hit a huge wall
don't have anywhere near the materials to upgrade bubbles
Upgrade skilling bubbles to increase your prints to further increase your skilling bubbles to be able to continue to level non-skilling bubbles
That's what I can't afford rn
hocus choppus
because my nail production speed is dismal
is there any significant boost to production that I don't have
need to level hammer hammer more for that. For now just make sure you're using bargain tags to level it until you get it to 100M so you can atom it
What the hammer one?
third green bubble
The cost does go up, but will cap out and still be cheap
Decent day of boops
hammer hammer 
U het a million per day how
Plunderous mobs and giants
im gonna try to schow those... wish me luck
Guys what is your rate level in alchemy
I am trying to find out how yall hit 140 water per hour
all the bonuses honestly
The stamp is huge
Thats 40 water per hour
I think max stamp level is 145
My stamp is 115
mine is 85 got you beat lol
U mean soft cap right
Like hard cap for now
Canโt carry enough mats
79
of course i do i got the smaller stamp lol
Are bloque better than snake?
135
Yep
Whatโs ur water per hour
Thatโs a good question 
I am doing bubbo lately and i am getting 400k+ second per run but i want to get more water
You can get up to like 500k Cc +
How
I think some endgamers getting like 530k
I should max out the fart
Better crystal chance, higher Roadkill bubble, equinox symbols
Equinox effects water not cc tho
Crystal kinda gets soft cap at 1in25
It gives more levels to your actual CC skill
1/24 
Is it the last one cause i didnโt see it yet
You can candy shrines to get progress if you really wanna sweat
Itโs the one you get for 200 gstacks
Dam
I will probably candy w4
It will be possible soon i assume
Cause lava said u can candy w5
waiting till W6 drops to candy hampters 
No and it's not close. 1/5k on bloque vs 1/3334 on snake. Could argue higher portal on bloques but it wouldn't make up the difference.
Whats the rate level
thats what I thought. @gleaming coral you should switch to snake
406
Makes sense
Mine is half if that
All this for gt
And some cash
We need a new coin
We're getting a new coin
maybe i should spend some more time on bubo...
Depending on how long the next world is gonna be we need 10 new coins
Thanks
new GS confirmed 
It really doesnโt matter now unless it can make me vial dreadlo
i remember reading that frogs is comparable or even better than wurms for CC is that true?
no
i will need that for 200 GS 
yall ever get all 10 cards on the log? Most ive done is 9 for +3 days. 10th showed 4 days
you get like 67%~ of the CC time at frogs that you'd get at tremors
w1 statues maybe?
For CC progress instead of con progress with semi-comparable rates on drop to beans on DK
ah makes sense
Where did the whole frog think come from i have been seeing it a lot
people wanting to get Decants for their alch cauldrons and still needing/wanting to farm w1 statues/crystals
maybe not for you but for others they might think it is
I am doing my BM to get shiny progress, I feel like preparing world 6 shinies is important right now
How good of an idea does it sound to run 3k Normal Kruks before W6? I'll need the gems, sure, and the overall likelyhood of getting some of the obols and necklace is higher....
Gems
Should I drop my balls and try to level up DR? or should I hold em and wait until the next rotation?
tryna be like you
There isn't really a good way to test how much less/more optimal frogs on bubo is to doing DK on beans + bubo on tremors
gaming would be bearable if we could select certain plants (chem) that "harvest all" doesn't harvest.
I was in a rough financial situation for a couple weeks irl, so I claimed my 8k gems in game, so now I am 8k further from greenstacking gems 
just be like thubie and farm colo...
I cant be bothered to do post office
get some sweet candies too
Active DK, and then use pens to level it up
I have so much I cant be bothered to use them, too click intensive
I literally cant be bothered to click pens, thats the problem
its too click intensive
Thats fair
understandable
i want to relax and cruise
When atoms came out, that was a blessing for post office for me
Its hard to see because of the drops, but I have 52k pens, I will never use them
i got a little under 7k myself and i try to use them to get colo tickets other PO bonuses are just a plus for those i am not as intense as thubie or the other colo ticket clickers cause i usually just click about 20 times for PO6
If they make colo clicks easier, for example you can spam one button, il do it
until then no thanks
I recently just started doing hourly click in alchemy, just because its so strong
i wish i was even close to being that strong
my vman never gonna drop lucky lad
highest prints for me right now is 101m logs and that is before 6x from doot
I have been playing since world 3 release, if I was playing as tryhard as I could, id be even stronger, but I have taken half a year breaks
You doing dreadlo?
yea
played a little right before W3 release as well once W4 dropped i kinda stopped playing and i started playing again in october of last year
I played during the release
I downloaded it on the phgone
put my guy on mining
and forgot the game exists
I wish I played since then actively
i put it on my phone every character i used was doing something different when i left i at least had a Mman and other characters but just not much else going for my account. just trying to put back together a neglected and broken account
I am actually so hyped for wortld 6
I usually try not to hype for new things, because its just not good, but now I am already hyped and I cant stop
same here it is finally gonna be a world that i am here to stay for an actual release
planning on staying i should say
i believe that
As a pure idle game it would be meh
As a whole
Its just not comparable to anything else
because the way you can play idleon is varied
most idle games, even ones considered very good, are extremely linear and dont provoke any thinking
Game requires too much activeon to be considered a pure idle game
Thats what makes idleon good
And if you played it purely idle it would be meh
I disagree even if you play only idle
so much first log in dopamine
is 16.71 DR enough for vman to get lucky lad at dreadlo in reasonable amount of time?
Depends on your afk% and skill speed but yes that's fine
it should be fast tbh, dont rememebr the exact hours
Does the DK orb affect the amount of keys dropped in coliseum?
It affects the amount? Multiplies the drops?>
@pearl cedar omg lol got it
could possibly be 100K gem ๐ฎ maybe 90K gem but the work to achieve all those run
I stopped doing kruk after getting all my necks and capes
So many gems left sitting there
yea same if only we could do multiple run at once
Boss key -> gem turn in when 
that would be even better ahah but i would do then if with 100 key i can get 100x the loot
Does resetting killroy with gems change the maps?
100k runs at 10 seconds a pop will only take you 280 hours. As gems cost $20 for 4000 gems. You would be making a solid $1.78/hr. Is worth
that is indeed important, you are doing everything right
10 seconds is too much for my attention span XD ill forget the dude after the kill for a good 5 min HAHAH
but you are tempting me to do it
You would be better off getting a job at target and quitting after your first week of training
HAHAHAHA
I think you might be biased
ok my neglected characters have finally fledged the lab
Wooo! My first Kruk obol, only 220ish into this grind, lol
do you still have to drop items and pick them back up for them to count for slab or was that changed?
So is the play once you have atom collider to just slam oak log printing on all your sorcs? am I missing something where I should do different kinds of logs?
That's the general rule until you can do hourly clicks anyways
dunno what that is yet XD
You can have the items in your inventory (not equipped) and go to slab for them to count
When you can print 1b of a resource in an hour and click bubbles manually
Nice, the even rarer Strung Tooth with only 10x drop rate after only 350 normal kruks
Was not expecting that to drop at all this set of keys, but, hey...
I spent 4k and none , why is rngesus so unfair
what was your drop rate?
14
only around a 33% chance at those numbers, I hit a 3% for reference, drop chance is pain
rng will stay rng
I'm only doing this since I need gems and I feel the 1 in 20k is reasonable enough with 10x drop rate to get a few of the obols, hopefully
Slab, or cosmetic hat conversion
Ok
Premiumfy it and stand out
Ok
Or any other hat lol
It was only added to the loot table since it used to only be obtainable on character creation, and... well slab
Good evening peeople
I have 1 or 2 that I need to grind, but i'm also kinda copium we'll see 11th character soon, so not doing that yet
I premiumfied this one and got a comment on it from a fellow guild member how he recognizes me because of it
do you go by hugh janos in game too? ๐
Is there an up to date printer checklist? found a nicely done one on reddit but it was missing divinity and I think 1 or 2 other things
Hugh kok
does cranium cooking progress sigils
no
fuckj
are these all the boosts that uses slab #?
Ok, now I got a cursed drop... a Lucky Lad....
Well except the talent
If we have new pets come out... will we lose ability to grab doot O.o?
Probably, Lava hasn't commented on it tho since the backlash, so maybe not, who knows
All the artifacts dependent on it
well i mean at least 2 72 hours
yea but only 9 24hr, shouldnt be that low for 450 tickets 
oh...
imagine lol
why colo 4?
do you want eggs or something
yep, eggs and ladles
ig 19k ladles is not bad
its way faster than colo 2 also
like 6x faster
why did you premium tgat one?
do you have the W2 colo card 5 star
I can just spend 1/6th of the time running and the extra time clicking some tickets/farming more pens
guh ok
Because I could, and it looks good.
I print them yea
so its for looks not bonuses
Correct
how many resources does it take at max
it varies depending on resource
but like, bottle caps it goes up to about 25M in one single order
I don't print w4 resources but afk sb when I'm low
bottle caps should start running out after like 600-700, the rest of the resources should be able to keep up for 1k+
ic
but I dont do that many on a single day
fair enough
so if you can spam but
have to just wait like 2 weeks to spam again if u do
lol
time to pray to rngesus again to help me pass round 115
Don't spam, reset until ticket and hate yourself while doing it
I mean, printer procs from omni and printer go brrr will refill the resources enough
pain
true
oh
oh
welcome to the club?
I agree...but at what cost
i mean it took me almost a year and slow spending to get doot catch up so ill just let that speak for itself
I kinda want 2nd doot

how do artifacts depend on the slab?
gs?
greenstack
oh
right

i need to unlock badgur before W6 drop because idk if it will unlock its potential in that world actually
what quest is this related to?
death by round 100 run #1
what power are your guys?
What was the coat
North Face
Huh
Brand of coat. ๐
obviously no peapod and it isnt for lack of trying to unlock peapod it is just a seris of no luck to get peapod
Groceries are over rated
Honestly it's not as bad as it could be
Imagine lava puts him on a pack for w5
'we need a new companion for world 6'
What are the benfits of doot again the mot obviously obvious ones
Hahaha sure
At that point I'm not interested I'm barely into world 5 as it is
More rare than king doot
it's bigger than every other companion so it gets to flex that 6 ft 3 vs 6ft 2 energy
i still have slime supremacy instead of doot just cause i love slimes
FINALLY AFTER A MONTH OF TRYING RNGESUS BLESSES ME THIS DAY!
I'm embarrassed to carry doot around so have slug instead
is that to get the cloud equinox?
do you not have the other team comp?
no peapod and peapod was very far away for me
Trollish Garb or Flesh Ripper? My Divine Knight is currently on the Spitfire guys but he's way too weak and is only getting about 8k an hour with no multi
getting peapod would probably take less time than a month ๐ฆ
but good job in sticking through it i would of gave up till i got peapod
๐ฆ
I can't do both cause my null salts are still way too low and I'm following that chart that says that my red and orange need to be like 21 and 12 or something
Oh whoops I just double checked I may have accidentally overshot my orange salts and it is now rank 13
That's okay but my red salts are still only rank 16 so they're still 5 ranks away
i know i could have used the dna to make it even lower so that i can guarentee the pet
I think I'll probably go with the flesh Ripper seeing as I really really need the damage
I still can't multi a single w5 enemy
I still don't know what I'm doing wrong with my builds
People tell me what Greenstack is. I was just reading what it takes to increase damage there, etc. and I just don't understand what kind of Greenstack is.
Might just be another alchemy thing
You gotta get 10m of any item, and it'll highlight it in the chest
Any stuff that's above 10m will have a green number, therefore green stacking
Honestly it's too tedious a process for me it's more for endgame players
its from this lab node, but you dont need the node for the stack to turn green on 10M
Understood thanks
and there are a few equinox dreams that go around that
Can some of ya'll show me your builds and stuff for w5 because I have no idea what I'm doing wrong
Actually better question what level are all your stamps and bubbles
fastest way to get to 300 construction? https://illustrator.idleonefficiency.com/
Oh shit yeah okay it probably is a stamp and alchemy thing
I need to start spending more money
Fastest way to construction in general is making sure you have xp cogs and then levels in bob
Guessing your progress in W5 has basically stalled?
Well technically it's still going on but just very very very slowly
Which is why I'm trying to upgrade and get my shit together
Yeah. Need to focus on backtracking to catch up on neglected things from "rushing" to W5
Also I'm not sure whether I should be getting the troll chestplate, the axe thing with an eye or tier 5 anvil
Either weapon or chest plate. Most of anvil 5 won't benefit you unless you want bigger pouches or better skilling equipment for a slight boost in printer sampling. The rest requires items from anvil 4
Weapon would probably be most beneficial in the here and now
Skilling is everything though. It's the way to get faster upgrades.
Tis true
Just depends if they even have the level requirements for the skilling equips
Fair point. But if so, better samples = more atoms = more leveling bubbles.
Agreed
its best to avoid anything that gives account any progress
skip gaming and sailing too
if someone finds any sarcasm...avoid it too^^
If I didn't have divinity I'd be dead because I'd literally have zero lab bonuses without Bear
im starting to see the bm stonks 
I'm currently up to the bird one but literally almost all my guys are on bear so it doesn't really matter
The passive bonuses are good thou
which shinys you lvling
these ones, the mush went from lvl 1-5 overnight 
yeah first 6 lvls are like super quick
yea i figured i should level a lot of my shinys up cause ive been slacking on them
same, got w6 all done to 8, now doing shiny rates to 9 or 10, prop DR after that and then maybe Meal/refinery speed
I regret my random spiteful comment 
also curious to find out how much shiny rate actually makes a difference for active BM, since I have dataset from my old shiny rate can give new data to someone who can do math and get to know how good it is 
damm nice

Whatโs every thing i need to know to get the most time on the bm
How do i get the black joe pickle
from BM active ?
Yah
Balljoepickle? From arcade.
Alr thanks
Wurms, crystal rate setup (so card doppler) and cookie, rest you can get into general respawn rate
1 sec I find the days per hour of active BM with my crystal etc
You can expect 14~ days progress per hour of active BM on wurms per hour, so from 0 - 10lvl its like 12 days and 8 hours, 0-5 is also only like 6 hours of active
Thats with 27 shiny in fence, 1 in 26 crystal chance, 17.25% respawn timer (IT) and 81% total shiny rate
14 days is goated wait. I've been sleeping on BM 

We denied them so long but they were there for us all along 
Seriously tho I think I found what to do for the next 2 weeks 
Been doing active bm for a couple days, getting all my shinies to formidable quantities
Kanna is a g for the info
really want these to lvl 9 but good enough for now
how does BM affect shiny rate at all? o: did I miss something?
whales gets this trouh vman enhancement, it also progresses shiny rate
oh, I thought this was about eggs o.o
I mean, that is what it says, but it progresses shinys cuz, lava
awesome, thank you :D good to know!
What mechanic am i missing i only get 2 days per 8h active bm?
crystal mobs? or you just very unlucky
1/32 chance too low?
1/27 should be fine
eyes is apparently a good map for 2k killroy
Whts ur upgrades
ive got like 94 secs at the time of getting it and 20 respawn
also... we begin again
see yall in 3 years for vial level 3
I don't know where to ask, so imma ask here. Is there any way of restoring lost account?
Oh nvm im blind didnt read properly
my best bet would be to mail lava about it
obviously you would need some proof that its yours aswell
Just wondering if anyone has any tips specifically for bubo, recently reached tremor worms, each tick from the bubo gas is doing 110m how do I bridge the gap between where I am now and being able to one tick all mobs. Ty
What's your gear like? What are your talent levels? We definitely need a bit more.
Are you doing it purely for CC or do you want levels? Money? What's your goal?
If you're doing tremors for CC, you can always backtrack to citringes since they're still pretty good
there are some big power jumps from the last alch bubble and a couple of the really late sailing artifacts that took me from needing aura to kill to everything instantly falling over
Max talent level is like 220, I have doot, nearly level 400 bubo
Alchemy defs needs a boost
Nearly have the last purple cauldron bubble just really low chance
Chizoar helm, Chizoar chest, magma legs and Kruk boots
Iโm saying personally
I really wish w6 came out now
It do be like that. Throw a bunch of people in there while you CC and just hold down brew after a couple hours 
How's your equinox? Matching scims is a lot of very easy damage
Working on Eclipses, Bronze bar Vial and Nails Vial
Same with cooking if you've neglected it for a bit. Meals go hard.
Equinox isnโt great because Iโm struggling with some of the challenges, whatโs is matching scims
Yea I neglected it for a while so Iโm tryna juice it atm
Went from like 200k speed to 2.5m in like a week
5th equinox unlock
Oh what the guck
I think it unlocks with the dungeon flurbo challenge? Or the 250 all character one. I can't remember which
Iโm tryna do the dungeon one thatโs hard tho
The max out stat one? Yeah that's just a test of time and grind.
Yea man need to grind out the credits but I just donโt really run dungeon much
Wait stupid question, if you have doot do you need to unlock goharut for the bonus
Your Characters need lvl 2 Divinity for Doot to activate
But if they're level 2 you can just plunk them into lab even if you haven't unlocked goharut?
Omg I've wasted so much time lol
And do prayers affect lab exp gain
I am constantly out of GREEN refinery salts for my gear upgrades (going from dementia to chizoar). I read that those refinements should ALWAYS be upgraded but that takes like a week per stage now and I blast through my salts in a matter of minutes. Is it really that bad to not rank up for 1 or 2 days and just finish my gear upgrades? :-x
Thats really demotivating
Dont overlevel salts on the bottom if you dont have surplus on the top.
If you would take the Greensalt right now you will lose 3 Days worth of Progress for one gear upgrade that won't do much. The 3 Days is actually a delay of 6 days, since you need to get back up
It depends on you. I personally don't find that to be worth
Hello guys
"lose" is maybe a bit harsh. But you will get to the promised land 6 days later
Right, but thats mainly for page 1 though, isnt it? I am talking about the 2nd salt page (and already failed big time on page 1 - time to level my red salts for like a month without touching those below)
Thsts for all pages
If you dont make more salts per cycle above than the one below costs, dont level the next one.
Or youll always be stuck saltless
The only way to fix it is to never claim red and green before they are full. Each time you do, you are prolonging your problems.
Are these good enough numbers
This is 3 Days for one Portal, which is not good at all. Is this with Nobisect?
Yes

Yeah that is way too low. You already using the IE Autreview tool of Scoli
Yes I am
So I assume you are following it closely and just want to get to the Boss for W6 release?
I probably won't
I won't deny that that might be a good idea - Assuming you just let your ES afk on that Map.
W6 Skills will probably give good buffs
Just don't push W6 once you get there 
Do you mind sharing your IE so I can get a quick look and maybe see something you could do actively?

And you can use Candies in W5 once W6 is out and the Portal requirement will be lowered
So we could get you to W6 on Day 1 
Hi everyone, I'm pushing the W5 maps.. but my characters don't exceed 40k kills per hour.. any advice on how to increase the damage and push the maps quickly?
any other advice on what to prepare for w6?
for more info: https://1gri5.idleonefficiency.com
ps: i alredy defeated w5 boss
I will get back to you in a second Igris. Else you can use the Tool: https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com
I've already been using it since it came out but the damage remains the same
equinox, eclipse
I'm updating the equipment little by little, but the change is really minimal, almost irrelevant... it seems like I'm not considering well what to work on
but you need all the "small" boosts for big numbers. everything matters
not necessarily for damage, but you forge is empty, salt is not producing, anvil is overflowing and you have unused hammers, not set traps on 4 accounts, you have barely sampled, can upgrade a lot of already finished buildings in construction and should probably visit the rift for the first few floors
Ok
for damage I'd mainly look towards alchemy
Ok
but the other things I mentioned will boost your alchemy
Make sure you equip card sets on all accounts btw
combat stamp liv 1437
all total stamp liv 4888
NBLB work on 62+ liv
what bubblu focus on ?
the lack here is pretty damn critical
Um the best I can get it ATM but I am fixing it
Yeah it is definitely Alchemy
You are still mostly at World 3 Bubbles, while trying to beat W5 
Also activate your Red Salt. It should never not be active
You have 3 People not printing anything. And most people are printing useless stuff
Cooking we definitely need to improve. We can easily get you 1000x value from there
Ok
No focus, itโs the synergy that gets you damage
So mostly you are trying to do later game stuff, while neglecting early game stuff
Same advice, first thing you should be doing is getting every bubble to level 5
Your minimum bubble is level 1 not 62
There are exceptions to that
If you cannot get the resource at all sure
But it should be the goal to get that resource
BTW what characters are printing useless stuff
looks like almost all prints
I have reasons for some of them
If youโre aiming for bubbles for damage, level all the damage bubbles to like 50% max, then 75% etc
meanwhile @teal lynx I made DR obols for the family and for the DK as you advised me, they give me +295% DR.. I went up from x7 to x8.50
I'm still not working on the w4-w5 bubbles because I'm still not good at farming the necessary materials..
The synergy is better than pumping one
Just need it to level 5 and youโre good to ignore it
Itโll easily push itself to atomable levels
In case it helps: https://spark.idleonefficiency.com/ this is by no means perfect but it gets me trillion damage display on my wizard
soon
Useless is maybe a bit exaggerated. But you could be printing other materials for bubbles that you have neglected
Goldfish I'm not sure what you print that for when you don't even have the refinery going (even then it has fuel for probably 4 weeks)
I don't think you would need Bloaches for Shaquracy, when we get your Cooking going
I am kinda racking my brain over if I should spend 2k gems I farmed yesterday or wait for w6...
Ok
bug error in cant see nothign
Better by itself?
I concentrated on Reaper. You still need me to quickly look over your IE?
Or did the others already do that?
Edit: Also nice job on that Obols
I have IE error .. dont load page
That link works for me
Ty btw
Oh well, not needed. More just if the inspiration helps
give it a general look (We have already talked about alchemy and all the "late game" bubbles at minimum level 5)
Iโd wait unless youโre missing super high prio purchases like 3d printer
eclipse skull are too early for me?
the only somewhat high purchase I am missing is storage and mat cap ( like 2-5 lvls of it )
Unless something is super tempting in the limited deals
I might get the last rubifier
How long would it take to do on green mushrooms?
1.224.465 for hour with DK pusher
Oof, yeah wait
Comfy eclipse was 500 hours per roughly for me
All chars, two days per map
But I also donโt have much else to put them on either
while on the topic, without doot, which chars would stay as lab slaves when eclipsing ?
I mean Vman for sure, most likely BM too, anyone else ?
ok I made a note for the late game alchemy bubbles to be brought to at least 5
I took note of the eclipse skeleton to do on at least w1
Is there anything else that would maximize my benefits with minimal effort that I don't think you think?
Vman dont lost all death note kill when do Trial ?
It does
he does, that's why I am saying he'd be a lab slave instead of killing them
so it's better for him to avoid farming the death note right?
he resets all kills to 2m to avoid bug abuse
Stamps need some Love. Even getting 10 levels on most stamps will give you a great boost in stats and also give you more gilded Stamps over time
Following that. 3D Printer: I assume you only have 5 slots. Your 2 ES should be printing Logs for Alchemy and Stamp Upgrades
Not necessary and I can't see that in IE. But you can pre unlock W6 bubbles if you want
You got many meals needing less than an hour for a level. Can get some easy level from there + It will help the Vman Talent
Your Lab is not active. Or you got Doot?
Following that Lab Issue. 9 people are on Snake pushing W5, when Nobi would be better (I'm 99% sure)
Why not some bears?
Thatโd solve the lab slave vs out
And lab overall is better than 6 of the other bonuses
They would need atleast the 2x kill bonus from Lab - From there it's trial and error between more Arctis or Nobi. I think for purely pushing Nobi would be better
But I don't think Pushing W5 is the right move
what happens when chest slot is filled? i ahve 15 spaces and 10 ships or something. and after 8 hours it is filled. And i can come back 2 days later and it is filled? which is better for obtaining as much common and rare drop of the island as much as possible?
and what is better for artifact drop?
Especially since w5 is likely to get easier when w6 releases
I changed the bloaches to green caps
portal requierments go down right?
Stupid question but how does multikill interact with world bosses?
it gives more of the first drop
Don't think it does anything
Could be wrong
I could also be wrong. I mean it would make sense dropping more Teeth
I'm working on the stamps, the problem is money..
as soon as we make some I'll invest in stamps.. then we'll make money and invest, and repeat.. now I'm saving to buy the last tribe bonus on the islands which increases the damage and then I'll start leveling the stamps again
as far as prints are concerned, the ESs farm and print more materials than all the other characters.. so I print things that are used to keep the refinery continuously active, I'm not focusing on the 3D printer yet, I improve the upgrades "passively" so to speak
I know I can unlock bubbles w6.. but I'm taking the opportunity to max out all the buffs of each cauldron at level 170 as soon as w6 comes out I'll start unlocking bubbles again with better chances and more efficiency
yes.. I'm also improving the dishes, I have king doot.. so for each meal instead of using a ladles I leave them one day so I increase them more levels and move on to the next, when I've finished the round I'll start using the ladles
The lab is up, I have King Doot
As far as I know, multikill only affects thing you can print. So key bosses aren't affected.
@teal lynx also I don't know if you noticed, I have a very bad statue level for my level... I'm saving them from w2 until today.. I'm doing something very unusual (and I think no one has ever done) but ultra worth
For meals use IE and sort by time. This way you will have a list with all meal sorted by least time to cook. I don't think its efficient to just cook meals in the order they are.
yes yes I know.. for now my method matches what the IE with the filter suggests, when I have finished the round but I will refer to that
@glad crow i will now ping you with every upgrade 
Those are just 5 Stamps that can be easily improved without spending much of your money 
So if you look at your IE you can find some easy stamps that will help you
Nice that you got King Doot. So some of those Issues already solved themselves
I would personally still go over your meals. Just use 5 ladles on each meal
That's maybe 10 minutes of work and will give you a nice boost in stats

I'm sorry 
My fault for being a cave troll at 5am with the lights off 
If you show me the Dark mode on IE I will enable it
(I mean specifically for that stamps tab)
I use a force dark mode option that forces it back 
But it seriously messes with colors
IE is dark. But those Stamps 
And yeah Biggy. I only got IE from them. So I needed to use that ๐ซก
ok I'll do it today.. today I've already upgraded the skulls for all the characters, I'll do these things too
yeah i thought that sorry didnt mean to sound toxic 
Oh no. All good :P
I appreciate the advice
Like this
I think it's an opera thing? I just right click and force dark mode and it works 
Yeah opera does that
The icons are all sorts of funky tho 
But now the Stamps look extremely bad
I think I'm starting to see why hemoglobin is needed for world 5 now

It hurts so much when I don't even have proper armour
hemo is amazing 10/10 do recommend maxing
everything hitting me for 1000's in the second area, I just want the task board unlocked
Unless you're like a defense god like camp or garde
Halp meh im stuck in ๐พ๐๐๐๐๐
Hit the x
I'm only like 10 green thingys in per week
already did that
Ah that kind of stuck
how many gems yall saving for w6?
Pain
25k+
this is an "old" image about ten days old.. now the farmed statues are 167k instead of 108k ... the power statues (for the onyx statues quest) are 13.5K/20k..
as soon as I reach the goal I will have all the characters complete this quest to get the rewards x 10 (characters) and then I start pushing the rift to unlock the buff on the vials..
then I will max out as many vials as possible to maximize the effect of "Skinny or cal" (at the moment I'm at 18/27.. it seems to me that 27 is the number of maxxed vials to bring skinny or cal to 100%) ... I will increase at the same time the statue alchemy bubble and then I will start depositing 20k statues at a time starting from the most numerous ones I have to the rarest ones..
I will not deposit the 5 rarest ones of all (e.g. kachow) and I will continue to keep them.. I will deposit them when I have deposited all the possible statues at 20k
all this to make my statue level at least decent... but I won't calculate them anymore until I have excellent DR and updated damage and equipment
what do you think about it ?
how low is your accuracy?
too low for crystal mobs
as in 'it's above 5% I guess'
unless the crystal mob bugs out
It's good. But you most likely get the Vial Mastery and 27 maxed Vials before all the statues
Man it's been a while since I had below 100% accuracy
I wonder if I'll have 100% all of w6
what would be a good f2p friendly amount to be to save till then?
I'm just waiting on some gold and iron bars to start upping wisdom again for more
25k+
I got all my 22k gems that I have right now from f2p
saving since when?

#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message
That's what I roughly get daily. When I focus on it
That's around a 80-100 min effort daily
it would be nice.. actually no, seeing a little.. I'll get the statues first and then I'll have to max out the vials
I have already "burned" the vials to max out using the 3D printer, all I have left are the ones obtained by killing monsters..
the "easiest" ones so we'll also do the death note a bit
why u are not a mod or tester ? u are here everetime for help ๐
I help a lot. But being a mod takes way more effort
Also I don't want that. Too much responsibility. I will just ping Rash or Hotair if I need something 
can i ping you to ping rash and hot? 
"Xayayah (Ping for Ping to Rash or Hotair)"
"mom can you talk to the waiter for me"
hi xaya ๐
Hey Rac ๐
all my chars sitting in lab 
Perfecty balanced IdleOn gameplay as it should be 
the true idle experience
Active SB. 4 People Divinity. Afk ES slowly getting Eclipse Skulls. 4 in Lab with Goat to get more Divinity 
Better prepare yourself for the Divinity grind after the Lab Jail is done in 6 months 
goat shd help with it abit 
That's what I also told myself 
Now I'm stuck there for weeks
Xaya
That's me 
Was swapping bloaches for green caps a good idea
is worth level to 5 Shimmeron bubble :
+0% Gold Food Effect. Go on, its ok, I won't be offended. No seriously, go upgrade something else, I know I'm not a good upgrade.
?
If you can get some upgrades on Alchemy or Stamps with that. Yeah
Should I focus on lvling all my alchemy bubbles to lvl 20?
speaking of stamps, im regretting filtering w1 stones cus i just unlocked all stat stamp 
This is being asked in w5 chat?

ooh nice
If you saw my alchemy you would understand
Alchemy Bubbles should be upgrades as much as you can. There is not something like "Go to 20 and you are done"
Thereโs only like 2 or 3 bubbles that you want to keep at level 1, the rest you get as high as you can and focus the more important ones with tags
What are those lvl 1 bubbles
Uhh anvilnomics is one of them
Ok
Some people avoid matrix evolved as well
alchemy is forever 
Those are the only two Iโd really care about avoiding the rest have value
Minmaxing isnโt really super important here
Ok
Also some people would advise not to go too hard into cost reduction bubbles so you can atom earlier but I say whatever moves you along the fastest and go by feel
Hey, ive got a question, why do people don't use weapons on their bubo? What does it do (im early in w5)
use boxing gloves when using cranium cooking.. if I'm not mistaken it increases the range of the aura (I've heard but I'm not sure)
It's for active farming only.
Ohhh ok thanks
It doesnt increase the range, it just forces you to move and put the aura everywhere rather than hit from a distance and always place the aura on the same spot.
That makes sense, thx
So in a way yes it kinda increase the range, with extra steps.
ah oh right.. I read something in passing once
Well you werent wrong about the result.
I'm still at that level that CC I do it "actively" and I get to around 200k.. I don't do it active yet but afk
200k is still sizable. Definitely worth doing. That on citringes?
yep
Definitely not bad then. Can obviously be pumped up with things like choco chip, alchemy bubble, and more crystal chance. Tremors is the big jump in the end.
The boxing gloves trick makes a bigger difference on worms than oranges.
if I can, twice a day.. in the morning as soon as I wake up and in the evening before going to bed without starting to reduce the CD.. I CC it, close it and then open it again in the evening
yep.. i am pushing w5 with all char.. 40k kill/hour It's a bit of a problem but I'm working on it XD
Lol, i get like 124k per CC
Thats nice. Enough to have a bit of surplus until you really want to dump it all into grind time.
On wurms
You most likely need to boost your CC alch bubble.
all important skill of bubo at liv 251 xD
Probably
yep i know.. now i am upgrade it passively with nblb .. it 63+ .. but i will work on i t
Its at 167
Yep
It should be a little bit of a priority, the resource is easy to get and its a decent bubble
i am proud of you my boy
Specially if it is consuming NBLB
so tempted to use my gold watches for this 9 trophy daily week ๐ค its like a 1/3rd return rate but also w6 soon 
according to lava w6 wont have much daily stuff
but i would still keep it for the shop
but bubbles and stuff
atoming the bubbles will be big probably
you're right
but thats also assuming we can get the resources for atom range ๐
maybe its a hard to aquire resource like beanstalk seeds or something ๐
most late gamers probably can
not if they have 0 eff in the new skills like rest of us lol
i believe
w5 bubbles used bits remember
so i would say w6 might have some w6 unique skill resources too
w5 bubbles arent atomable
atleast the bits one
better comparison would be spices in w4
yh the bits arnt, but the rest are, some used sailing treasure too
oh i forgot about that tbh 
so i think its safe to assume some bubbles will take a while to get into atom range
the mob drops/basic resource ones prob fast
Spice bubbles 
Yeah it'll honestly be a smol race to get the easy ones out of range
Get to pull out the ES again 
Hello desync, my old friend
depends on the mob health 
first mob 1q hp 
es will still be best for mob drops no matter the health ๐
it jus has so much raw dmg from its abilities
Hoping for at least a bubble or maybe a vial to use one of the first 3-4 zone mob ingredient
Get a quick and dirty speedrun sample of it first day and hope to get some brr procs
im still wondering if the 240k shop barrel is with or without the buff from the achievement
There will probably be some easily attomable bubbles that boost the new skills, so golden watches might end up being hella OP
๐ฎ speaking of achievements there will be w6 achievemetns, my bit boost will go up again 

single most important reason would be new vials
new attempts
Shop resets 
Maybe possible, but I wouldnt go for it personally lol. That would be a lot of gaming everyday 
i mean im stuck in homeoffice and have nothing to do most of the time so it wont be that bad
its worth using yes especially if u use it on 9 chars with 1 active char doing combat etc.
Thats a bit extreme
divinity is like that
no its normal
jst let everyone there till tranQI
div is extreme
until u unlock the passive 3 xp per hour ur gonna be stuck afking on divinity sorry to break the news 
imagine a new lab/div in w6 
Fair, I just hate gaming lol. Like I usually hope for my log NOT to reset so that I dont have to click more things 
๐ watch your tongue, gaming is life
Generally NO
at your stage. You should still be focusing on Unlocking divinities, which requires points. Exp can be after that.
its a joke 
Maybe they have doot lol
Even then unlocking Purrmep for the 10 Atom Clicks a day would be more worth than some xp
Do the orb/plunderous/wormhole kill talents stack across multiple chats?
Chars*
I know the total kills do, but do two chars having it maxed provide a multiplicative bonus?
So I have 2 SB with it maxed is that giving a bigger bonus to my other characters or is it just taking the one who has higher talent lvl
Interesting
Scoli. My Bubble % are currently: 96% Chopping, 92% Mining, 84% Catching
You think me going for 99% Chopping before focusing on the others will hinder me in the long run?
I can (semi) hourly click all Ore bubbles
Not much of a difference, no.
I'm already planning on knocking down the orange and green requirements to be a few % lower than Purple when I get to that section for the UI uplift
Unless w6 just somehow fixes bug samples
Getting those to 92% will take a few days max then. So I won't lose much
Thanks 
I will blindly follow whatever your Bot Tool tells me for Chopping bubbles 
I do still like the multiplier bubbles, no regrets leveling those. Archer or Bust and Premigreen
Gonna be weird to "finish" alchemy soon
Where can I post my IdleOn Efficiency for some help.
Either here or you use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203 (The link is in the Pinned messages)
http://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/
Actually. This is the Link. Scoli is right there for easy access to the Link
i broke the 2m finally ๐ฅณ
I need to figure out what to work on
The simple answer is: Alchemy
You have not even unlocked all of the W3 Bubbles, while you are in W5 ๐
The easiest thing would be following this: https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/?player=itachifps
But as I said. You are missing half the alchemy bubbles. They give really good bonuses
You need to work on Stamps. Everything can get an upgrade and there are many more to get
Try to buy most Anvil Points with Money and Materials
Red Salt should be set to 0% auto refine and also you should rank them up. Currently 4 are ready for a rank up
Your last character can 3D Print something (you just got them so it's only half as bad)
Your Maestro should be #1 in Skills
Get your Chars some Tools. Most of them got a junk pickaxe and nothing more. The Stats of Tools is not to be underestimated
Your Cooking is not great. Try to unlock some more Meals and use some levels for easy levels on them
Try farming Pop Obols and Dice Obols. Drop Rate is very very good
There is probably more. But this is already a very big list
Finally made it to W5! I'm curious: if I have doot, do Arctis and Goharut work in tandem so everyone's always connected to both lab (no exp) and divinity?
No xp no divinity
Unless u put them into lab
If they're in lab theyll be connected to divinity, but if they arent in lab or the alter they wont be getting gains for either (unless youre using tranqui)
Kind of related, if i have bear on my bubo, does green tube work for the guys in lab?
Green Tube works regardless
So Even if bubo isnt active in lab?
Right
Nice! Thanks mate
whats the optimal orb level with max po box?
267 or 310+. Anything inbetween is roughly a loss.
ty
310 is only possible w high level arctis and ES right?
Family bonus
pet
The 200gstack Equinox helps as well. I think current max is 320 or 321? Equinox is 9 of that
But yeah also Rift Slug companion required
321 is max currently
(maybe 322 if someone broke +18 arctis)
there is a W5 achievement that give you a +1 right?
Yes, but iirc it is a different achievement than the one it is listed as the reward on
Now I only need another 1m Minuteglass for Gs. Maybe I do W3 after that 
Minuteglass too scary
Just looked after the deposit. It's actually only 910k 
So all your Minuteglasses wouldn't be enough for my Gs 
Colo 2 was a nice adventure ๐ซก
But I think going through the Tickets quicker will be better for my overall progress
Colo 5 drops with W8 release 
Hype
How many runs did u do for all of that
20 Runs
But I always put 1 Candy in my Inventory. So I got no 72 hour candy
More than two
Oh I can still do them. I will need less W2 Colo than I thought 
Oh, right 
Woop
That's the best I've got for 1001 lol. Grats
I'm making a stinky right now

Hah thanks ๐
CCD please go faster
Does CCD help if my vman has trapping overflow?
Oh right. It only lowers the amount needed to next level
Bummer
Maybe heโll just fix overflow with w6 ๐
you rich ๐ฎ 11K gem
I'd feel better with 40k
I probably have enough for FOMO shop on w6 release, but not the permanent items
I'll be skipping cosmetics and timeskips/consumables
Uhh that actually was 50% of the minuteglass I needed for my GS 
So I will get another GS pre W6
u using DK and how much DR?
23.94x and around 450+ orb score
ok, also do it is necessary to wait orb refresh or just keep going?






