lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[junior arrow]

the way i did it, and some others as well. if you still need artefacts, dont use the talent. if you are done with all eldritch artefacts then just use it to make sailing less of a hassle

[gaunt shale]

its handicapping yourself in gaining artefacts

[calm gust]

1 off from achievement

[faint niche]

I need more resources to upgrade my ships

[shy flame]

I support navi in any decision they make

[gaunt shale]

you dont gain a whole lot more either, more so if you check every 4 hours

[shy flame]

Yeah, that's why I said it's suboptimal but realistically I'm just not active enough for the optimal approach and I'm comfortable with my current amount of playtime/progress

[raven fog]

Guys for bubbo should i pht raise of dead first or the aura

[thin rose]

Bubbo

[shy flame]

I think cc first then raise dead?

cc raise dead aura fart I think

[thin rose]

I think you do orb first

Then statue

[faint niche]

I am trying to get the rest of them so guess i should respec my crafting talents?

[shy flame]

If you want to take the optimal approach, yeah

[raven fog]

I am trying to figure out how yall get more than 400k seconds my rodkill is at level 1090 and my talent is 307

So idk whats wrong

[shy flame]

I'm not using unending loot because I think it's better, it just kinda works a bit better for my specific situation

[faint niche]

Honestly want to get candy isle and fungi meadows artifacts unlocked asap

[raven fog]

And how do yall have more than 100 water per hour high ccauldren level

[shy flame]

bleach + dragonic

[raven fog]

I have them

Both

[shy flame]

what's your water/hr?

[raven fog]

Is 200 in rate low

[sterile bison]

So is there any point in pushing to level 500 on all my characters when w6 is close and pushing it should get them there id assume

[raven fog]

77

[shy flame]

equinox I guess, it's still two weeks away

[raven fog]

Whats ur water and seconds per run

[shy flame]

Probably worse than your's; w5 questions is a weird mix of people who rushed from w2 to w5, people like me who honestly just kinda play lazy and suboptimally, and people who know what hourly clicks are and do them

[thin rose]

Doubt they'd get it anyway without like a 50k gt in 2 weeks

Just wait till world 6 bud

[raven fog]

Yah

[shy flame]

tbh I'm working on eclipse skulls instead of pure levels rn

[raven fog]

In whatvworld

[snow light]

should i just hard push to these sigils i wasnt gonna level the sigils on the way there to max but those two when i unlock them i want to max them of course

[raven fog]

I did w1-w3 but i am waiting to candy the rest

[thin rose]

I've left everyone at wurms, DK at beans and I'm just idling on world 5's new skill

[shy flame]

world 2 is my focus; it has the least mobs of any world and I hate feeling such a power drop doing speedruns

[exotic juniper]

world 5 new skill?

[shy flame]

You are further along in terms of progression than me, basically

[raven fog]

I haven’t done a speedrun in so long even after doing skulls i should do one

[thin rose]

Yeah, Skill 4: Waiting for w6

[exotic juniper]

😛

[shy flame]

tbh you can play optimally or not, it's probably fine. As long as you're enjoying Idleon who cares.

[thin rose]

There's only one way to play idleon

And that's Alvin's way

[shy flame]

idk who alvin is, but I've met many of his chipmunks

[rapid shale]

https://tenor.com/view/korysverse-koryverse-alvin-suit-gif-25294575

[exotic juniper]

wonder when ill get a new nugget. im only at 3m but 1000 since my last one

[shy flame]

stop using IT

[rapid shale]

granted but its a 3.1 mil nugget

[shy flame]

It is only helping you track your Ls

[exotic juniper]

@rapid shale rip

[gaunt shale]

yes I would, only use unending if you can only check like once a day

[faint niche]

kk, time to get my friend to hold my spent talent screenshots lol

[shy flame]

my use of unending has been described as valid

[faint niche]

talents reset, now to see if that helps

[calm gust]

Anyone got better odds?

[shy flame]

Yes if I look at my shiny gmush odds :x

[sterile bison]

which class is the best for active pushing portals

[thin rose]

Depends on the world

[fierce oracle]

12345 shipment

[sterile bison]

i guess ultimately im trying to plan for w6 so i guess no one knows yet

[thin rose]

Pushing w6 actively is an interesting strategy

[hybrid halo]

Not a funny number but I'm surprised it's higher then yours

[thin rose]

I guess it depends on where you are

[modern plaza]

oh yeah for sure

[thin rose]

Ill be afk pushing it

[fierce oracle]

I took a long(like 2 weeks) break from colos for active BM

otherwise I'd be at like 15-16k

I'll see if my pens + mats can take 450+ tickets and if so, I'll just run more colo 4s

[hybrid halo]

https://tenor.com/view/right-dr-evil-sarcastic-okay-bald-gif-17343060

[fierce oracle]

it'd be faster in the end

colo 4 is so fast, but feels like such a waste

but whatever, I need ladles

and eggs are good too

[thin rose]

Feels like a waste?

[fierce oracle]

I might finish the second gstack for the memes later tho

[sterile bison]

Ill have a few guys pushing afk I just like to have one going active I guess I’ll probably do statues first so likely dk

[fierce oracle]

I mean, 300 tickets on colo 4 gives less than half of what 300 tickets on colo 2 give

so it does feel like a waste

candy-wise

[thin rose]

I mean yeah, Colo 4 is dogshit

[hybrid halo]

I have been maining w3 colo after gstacking hourglass

[thin rose]

Maiming

[shy flame]

rip w3 colo sending thoughts and prayers

[fierce oracle]

yeah, colo 3 is not really bad, but idk, for me its weird

I need to do too much manual controlling of my char to fit 3 runs in one orb

[shy flame]

w3 colo doesn't give me kebab, which is a red flag

[fierce oracle]

colo 4 is just spam and leave fast enough and you can fit 4 runs per orb

colo 3 is just either no auto, manual moving at least or wait a lot for orb to not reset mid 3rd run

and colo 2 is just timed right for me ig

[hybrid halo]

The main goal is candy

I auto w3 and get 2 runs per orb

[fierce oracle]

yeah me too

but those 2 runs are quite fast

so I have to wait like 20ish seconds for orb to end

so I can start the next 2

[shy flame]

Have you considered that I'm hungry and craving doner kebab

[hybrid halo]

With 267 orb level that's not an issue

[fierce oracle]

fair enough

[shy flame]

Is 267 the max level without double orbing?

[shy flame]

Why do you taunt me with your flavor wealth

[fierce oracle]

if mana box is maxed yea

[shy flame]

I assume the 267 includes the like 20% CD from mana box?

[fierce oracle]

10% but ye

[shy flame]

You ever type a question but there's a psychic in chat who answers it before you can ask?

[cyan mantle]

Alr whats a way to farm golden kebabs

[empty ridge]

Is there soft/hard cap list for alchemy? I checked pins in w2 I didn’t see anything

[shy flame]

W2 colo or post office

[cyan mantle]

Ok ty

[shy flame]

This is bread, I can make bread

[empty ridge]

Thank you!!

[fierce oracle]

imagine if golden bread actually worked as intended

that'd be a sick stack

[hybrid halo]

Maybe someday

[shy flame]

Afaik golden kebabs are the least farmable golden food but I think they also have their buff scaled around that

[worn sonnet]

Intelligence is knowing hourly clicks and doing them.

Wisdom is knowing hourly clicks and not doing them.

[shy flame]

If I am wrong please pinchy instead of x to tell me my kung fu is weak

[fierce oracle]

I mean, technically I think the least farmable would be golden jam

it drops on colo 1 but like, who tf cares about colo 1

[shy flame]

Lol yeah, that's basically my point: I am very aware that I could do many things more optimally but I don't feel any pressure to do hourly clicks, check in on sailing every few hours etc. The loss in terms of progression is made up for by the fact I don't have to deal with any cognitive loads whilst playing or pressure or anything

[hybrid halo]

Technically it's more farmable but you're right about colo 1

[rough wasp]

me

[fierce oracle]

is it really? I did so few colo 1s that idk how many it drops compared to colo2

[hybrid halo]

About the same

[shy flame]

that npc outside colo 2 cares a lot about your speed at colo 1

[proven iron]

Is there a list of all the ways to gain star talent points?

[shy flame]

I'd check the wiki or idleon insight

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=star talent

[hybrid halo]

Plus you can farm po1 for golden jams

[proven iron]

Ye, idleon insight seems to be close to what i needed, thanks!

Though it still doesnt list a lot of things

[shy flame]

I'm not sure if it's super well updated; it's possible it's missing info and it's possible there just aren't that many ways to gain star talent points

I know a lot of more end game players switched from IE to IT but idk if those really just give you like a convenient list of bonuses and IT tracks your Ls which seems unpleasant

[proven iron]

Ah i see why it doesnt list a few things, because lava has a different wording in some places, because of course he does.

[shy flame]

lol yeah, I've had that problem before when looking up damage and pet damage

[cyan mantle]

Tbh that's some decent candy from one w2 colo

[hybrid halo]

You only got 1 golden kebab?

[cyan mantle]

Yes

[fathom grove]

Just wait until you have more drop rate. You’ll love it even more.

[cyan mantle]

I have 3.22 dr and that's the candy I got though

[hybrid halo]

Droprate and multikill affects boss drops. With 24.1 dr I get 96 kebabs per run.

Doesnt affect candies tho

[cyan mantle]

I think I was just really lucky with those candy drops

[hybrid halo]

Only with the 24h one

[patent hatch]

$200m lottery tonight

[barren otter]

how do you see that..

[fierce oracle]

IT > Tools > item browser

[barren otter]

[snow light]

is time hard capped at 30mins?

[proven iron]

Is there a way to craft things like peanuts quickly?

[gaunt shale]

crafting from inventory faster than from storage

[proven iron]

huh

Yes thats much faster, thanks

[storm kelp]

my max is 96 balls :/

[worldly gulch]

:)

Now to find out how this speedrunning actually works

[dull lance]

Do excesice cards count for ruby cards or when you unlock ruby cards you need to collect them from the start?

[lean snow]

is it worth making full krux armour now for all my friends or is magma better for certain classes

[glad crow]

you will need both

kruk helmet and shoes with magma chest and legs is best for active farming, the inverse for afk farming

magma is also good for skilling

[lean snow]

ok thank you i thought i would need a few extra sets just wanted to make sure

[scenic bridge]

should I work on upgrading shrines or no

[fierce oracle]

[worldly gulch]

Uhm so I completed my first Vman speedrun and I only received voidwalker talent for the preset where I fought in, and got 0 points for my other preset. Is that normal?

[sharp igloo]

Put 1 point into the first talent and it should give you the rest of your points

[worldly gulch]

Ah dayum, I didnt notice directly and put 1 point in a different talent

Lets reset talents and try again

[sharp igloo]

How is that even possible lol? Thats 242 days of nothing on all 10 characters

[fierce oracle]

candy

[sharp igloo]

Ah

[worldly gulch]

Thanks, it worked @sharp igloo

[graceful tinsel]

well ive never seen this before lol

[vapid warren]

I cry.

[cyan mantle]

So close to 5m

Now it is 5m

[sharp igloo]

You cant farm golden kebabs from mobs right?

[cyan mantle]

Wait which mobs drop them

[sharp igloo]

I dont think any, thats what I was asking.

[cyan mantle]

No u can't I think it's only from w2 colo and boss

Colo 100% but boss idk

[ancient vine]

Silver Chest colo and picnic quest

[sharp igloo]

Oh okay. I was just wondering cause I just realized how much they boosted damage by last night, even with only 700 of them, so I wanted to know if it was possible to farm a bunch somewhere

[ancient vine]

Doing this daily is worth i guess

[sharp igloo]

Yeah. Im terrible about remembering to claim colo tickets everyday lol, I need to start doing that more

[cyan mantle]

Wait can u do picnic stowaways quests infinity?

Besides the last one

[ancient vine]

It's a daily repetable quest

[cyan mantle]

Ok nice

So if I do all of them I can get 34 per day

[ancient vine]

There is even a trophy if you complete It 30 times

I Don't remember how It was but iirc boost food ir something like that

[cyan mantle]

Alr

[eternal wasp]

Is it 30 days continuously?

[cyan mantle]

Ye it's 20 percent golden food effect

[ancient vine]

No

[eternal wasp]

Okay

[ancient vine]

The Matter is get the npc token

[cyan mantle]

No u just need to complete the quest line 30 times to get 30 picnic tokens

[graceful tinsel]

anyone know why my IE and IT is telling me its updated but it clearly hasnt i swapped my breeding pets and its not showing 😦

[worn sonnet]

You can finish it in 3 days

[pastel bramble]

You need to wait 2min or cloudsave to see changes most times

[graceful tinsel]

i think i may of fixed it, i logged out and every change i had had made for the past 2 days had been reverted

i had cloud saved before asking and it didnt do anything

oh now because i logged out all my presets reset

ffs

ah well its fixed

[zealous niche]

Yeah, that’s been a longstanding bug that hasn’t been fixed..

Free resets at least

[graceful tinsel]

i dont need free resets

[graceful tinsel]

yea lost all card presets and all 2nd talent presets, really annoying that its not fixed but owell

[worn sonnet]

when it happens on your vman you know it's time to go do a speedrun

[crystal ginkgo]

Any method for 15 Chem equinox. Or literally just clear and hope one appears, rinse and repeat till full.

[lapis elm]

That's it. Just sit with kitsune on and go for it

[proven iron]

I fcking love trying to gather everything in the world to make a perfect sample... Had to buy halloween candy pack to get mining food that i didnt apreciate before.

Just another 8 hours of number crunching and i'll be done with resampling... for a few weeks maybe.

[safe tangle]

Anyone else still not got chem plant and over lvl 100 gaming?

[sacred verge]

i got mine at 137 iirc

[vital gorge]

Just rng

[cyan mantle]

That's alot of kills

[eternal dove]

it is done.......

[little dawn]

anyone know if this trophy works on construction xp?

[eternal dove]

i dont think so

[little dawn]

thinking ill put it on my vman then?

[eternal dove]

my vman holds it bc i mean what else is my vman gonna do? fight????

[little dawn]

ya not on my watch lmfao

[eternal dove]

hes not gonna fight until i get last map of w6 then get to 500 at least for equinox

i think i have a semi game plan for w6 pushing as far as fighting goes

gonna maybe have a bubo active pushing and my 2nd bb slow pushing getting super chow before going to next map

and first bb gonna get a break from kitchen to just get normal chows

[dreamy folio]

Is it better to use gloves on bubo, or best staff with wurm farm

[teal lynx]

Gloves are better to spread your Aura. Aura is your best kill tool

[dreamy folio]

Ok, couldnt be bothered to open jhros video

[lime basin]

I just got my 5th snail reset before lvl 10, is this some kind of record?

[shy flame]

this is only applicable on maps that aren't the best for activing bubo; on worms you can have divine staff and you'll still just kill everything because it's a compact map

at least I think so don't smite me if I'm wrong

[teal lynx]

And gloves will still give you more kills/more CC. More spread aura = More Enemies killed at once = Faster Raise Dead
Aura kills immediatelly and Poison needs a few seconds to kill

[shy flame]

I uh, honestly don'

don't really use poison

it basically just catches outliers on the map whereas all the auras kill everyone

[teal lynx]

Your fart ghost spreads the poison

[shy flame]

please do not mention my farts I said excuse me

[gaunt shale]

would like to smite you, but instead I just let you know that you are wrong

on wurms you still want gloves so half your aura doesnt just hangs around in air on top platforms and does shit all nothing

[shy flame]

Most of my commentary or thoughts on game are based on my own experience; I haven't really found gloves necessary on worms, but you and xayayah are further along in progression than me so it's very likely I'm just missing something because noob

[teal lynx]

You could do a quick test of CC. One with gloves and one without

[shy flame]

I feel like you're suggesting that because you know I like testing things and getting my own data

give me a few minutes, I was afking wood shrooms

[teal lynx]

Testing things is always great in this game. The meta might not be applicable for everyone. So testing stuff yourself even if it's only for 10 minutes is great
Did the same thing for my W2 Crystal Guide. People told me Sand Pots vs Sand Castles vs Tysons. Sand Castles were like 40% less efficient than Tysons

[shy flame]

I agree, part of why I want to test things is because I know I'm no where close to the end game folk but there's plenty of folk who are working their way there

[jade folio]

You reckon this is enough capacity?

[graceful atlas]

Got recently to w5, what should i focus on?

[gaunt shale]

why would you put anvil cap so high ?

[shy flame]

I think most people would suggest starting with divinity; at level 40 you unlock a style called Tranqi which allows you to gain exp for div without actively doing it

[graceful atlas]

For now i'm getting last battery to unlock rift, doing rams for equinox and working towards void/chiz armor

[graceful atlas]

So swap all people from lab to divinity?

[jade folio]

I'm about to waste a lot of candy and im to lazy to actually check it frequently enough to see if ive capped it

[shy flame]

Maybe? I play suboptimally in general, I know I didn't feel pressed to do a like lab grind but I did take time for a div grind so I could get everyone on tranqi

[graceful atlas]

How much time can take to get div to 40

I guess some time

[teal lynx]

You definitely want all the people on Divinity until you unlock Goharut -> Then you put them back in Lab with Goharut linked. Whit Goharut you get both lab and divinity xp at the same time

[jade folio]

Divinity is slow at first but speeds up as you go further into it

[shy flame]

I'd trust Mama Bean over me personally

[graceful atlas]

I was going to try smth like that, ty

[cyan mantle]

I need w6 to come out now

[graceful atlas]

Going to unlock rift and send them to divinity

[gaunt shale]

just do your production speed * 3, divide by points required to craft 1 item and see where you can balance it to make it not annoying but also not waste soo much production

[graceful atlas]

Can you balloon or pearl divinity?

[shy flame]

waste production time, leave all your chars afk in town, become master of nothing, laugh at rift

[teal lynx]

^ (this is not good advice, please follow at your own risk)

[honest spoke]

What level should the orb of remembrance be set to to avoid overlap?
Should I just check it’s cooldown and level it to seconds on point to cooldown?

[graceful atlas]

Lmfao

[teal lynx]

lvl 267 with Mana PO Box maxed. 300 without Mana PO Box

[honest spoke]

Thanks!

[graceful atlas]

Also wondering what's best way to lvl up maestro on class

[shy flame]

I may or may not have put on joker make up before typing that. I did finish a CC run on worms with my current staff, getting reset back so I can see glove number

[graceful atlas]

Just do max exp map ?

I've been doing crystal island with him to get some exp

Didn't get into actual lvl farm since he is lvling up for void area

[teal lynx]

Yeah usually the furthest W5 Map is best. It can depend on your survivability on that map so check the afk info on some of those Maps

Note: You don't want too many kills on your Maestro, since they are gonna get reset when you get Vman

[graceful atlas]

Crystal island is worth at 105, lvl or i can leave it for other low chars

[graceful atlas]

He is usually skilling so nw

[teal lynx]

That I can't tell you. I easily get up to level 400+ on Crystal Island 😅

[graceful atlas]

Crystal Island exp scales with max char lvl right?

[teal lynx]

Was it lvl 150 + some other quests to get Vman?
Then giving Crystal Island to your Maestro is not a bad Idea. Unless W5 is giving you more XP

[cyan mantle]

I've just been pushing w1-w4 with my maestro it lvls real well

[shy flame]

Crystal island as in island expeditions?

[graceful atlas]

yeah i was aiming for 150 to vman quest

[haughty ivy]

Should i get my maestro to 150 first? I am no where close to 1m every mob

Starting with the hardest at blood bones

[shy flame]

Whoever has choccy chip for crystal island in my, questionable, opinion

[graceful atlas]

I reached w5 this morning so i'm still processing lmao

[honest spoke]

Using maestro to 1m?

[graceful atlas]

Didn't check exp on map

[haughty ivy]

Nah other chars but still

[graceful atlas]

Gotta do some testing

[teal lynx]

Everyone can do the 1m kills. Maestro only needs to do the 12m gmush
Edit: ohhh

[jade folio]

I just made my Vman kills crystals at wurms till they hit lvl 405 and they went back to skilling

[haughty ivy]

Maestro is currently catching up on fishing

He is severely under skilled

[honest spoke]

I don’t think maestro kills matter cuz they are set to best map progression 2m kills every time you do a void run

[graceful atlas]

My only under skill is worship i believe

[shy flame]

I feel like auto review is pretty useful for understanding how to assign your vman in terms of skilling

[graceful atlas]

Gotta fix that

[frozen mauve]

what character is best for the 1/10mil drops

[haughty ivy]

Es prob

If its in regular drop table

Otherwise dk

[atomic kettle]

Man divinity sucks when you have just gotten to it

[haughty ivy]

I agree

[graceful atlas]

Feels like lab again

Lmao

[atomic kettle]

I thought lab was bad

[haughty ivy]

Got 2 gods fairly easily in a day, but that damn insect is pesky

[atomic kettle]

Jfc end me now

[hidden loom]

Is there any specifc hotbar setup for bubo? My just randomly doesnt use skills

[plucky edge]

does this count only for the island or for all daily events?

[shy flame]

ES is probably better for rare drops in general, although I got the 1 in 50 million or whatever suggma recipe by activing DK for like 3 and a half hours

[plucky edge]

im stupid and cant read again

"all random events"

[teal lynx]

Vial #50 maxed

[shy flame]

It's okay, I'm stupid even when I can read

[haughty ivy]

Nicee

[plucky edge]

yoooooooooooo

[atomic kettle]

speaking of alchemy...I only found out you can upgrade the speed of them through decanting like

yesterday

Somehow I never saw it as something I could tap

All that time WASTED

[shy flame]

The only thing wasted is me after failing a trick in tony hawk's pro skater

https://tenor.com/view/fail-fall-skate-chrash-wasted-gif-12727377

[hidden loom]

why is this bish not using skills?

[gilded pond]

I have a question since I'm stupid af when it comes to the math in this game. I have 13 drop rate and get 100k kph farming cooking clogs at purple mushrooms. It took about 60hrs worth of candy to get 8. Does that sound right? Shouldn't I be getting 1 about every 2 hours?

[teal lynx]

Multikill does not work for rare drops. So yeah it sounds about right

[gilded pond]

Right, but clogs are on the main drop table

[teal lynx]

What other skills do you have equipped at tab 2?

[shy flame]

I finished my test. 158k CC with staff, 187k with red boxing gloves

[hidden loom]

oh I forgot about that shrines and some garbage skills

[glacial venture]

did you uncheck by any chance using skills in auto mode?

[teal lynx]

Multikill only works for the top left item. So it would be Purple Mush Caps

[plucky edge]

@cerulean hemlock

[hidden loom]

removing those worked like a charm

[teal lynx]

Cooking Clogs are still rare drops. But are not in the Rare Drop Table. It's weird yeah

[gilded pond]

That explains a lot! Thank you

[teal lynx]

Or maybe instead of Rare drop we could just call them "non main drops"

[gilded pond]

Multikill only affects the mobs main drop

[shy flame]

side ho drops, got it

[gilded pond]

That would have saved me a lot of confusion. I just thought I didn't understand math, tbh

[shy flame]

my understanding is that most people are perplexed by lava math/descriptions

[teal lynx]

We all been there

[shy flame]

don't be too hard on yourself for it

[gilded pond]

I mean, yes. I took a liberal arts degree over science because I suck at math to begin with. But I thought I was like 3rd grade level on this one lmao

[shy flame]

hello my fellow liberal arts degree student

I went to a small school that had like 2 philosophy professors, 2 econ professors (one of my majors), and 4 religion profs

[glacial venture]

so...arts degrees are split now by politics too?

[shy flame]

uh liberal arts degrees tend to have requirements to take a lot of classes in a variety of fields to expose you to a lot of different kinds of information and approaches to knowledge

[gilded pond]

Oh, wow, that is small! I went to Colorado State and did a split of philosophy and interdisciplinary studies (because it let me take more philosophy)

But yeah, definitely required a lot of communications, sociology, polysci etc.

[shy flame]

If you'd like to discuss more DM me, I feel like the mention of politics in terms of liberal arts degrees will lead to discussions that are not game related, not helpful to people wanting to progress, and possibly alienating to others

[shy flame]

lol we only had two polysci professors too, so I took a couple courses crosslisted between econ and polysci and us econ folks basically never agreed with the polysci folks

[lapis elm]

3 1/2 hours is ignorantly lucky

[worldly gulch]

Thank you I was just about to propose using this channel for more... game related discussions. Helps alot when reading a backlog and gathering game infos.

[shy flame]

I am extremely lucky. It's not always good luck, but it's always luck

[gilded pond]

Definitely, not my intent; mostly just explaining why I couldn't figure out the math on drops. I've been racking my brain trying to figure out why it took so long to farm pop obols too

[lapis elm]

Luck goes both ways indeed

[shy flame]

that was more directed at kettensaege; I'm fine talking about whatever but some things just don't belong in w5 chat

[worldly gulch]

I wasnt even aware that there is such a recipe, but I guess i already got that. Have just unlocked Anvil Tab 4 yesterday though. What is that recipe? Other than me having it revealed, I cant see it.

[shy flame]

it's a w5 tab recipe and also comes from the first w5 mob, Suggmas. It's uh, definitely a pretty rare drop but I got lucky on unlocking it

[glacial venture]

in case of recipes...if you can see it in the loot table...you DONT have it yet

[worldly gulch]

Well then count me in on the lucky side as I seem to have it, without even knowing it existed?

Oh

[shy flame]

yeah, you ain't lucky yet

[lapis elm]

Yeah, it's a weird little system. Once you get a recipe, it disappears off the card drop table

[worldly gulch]

Well then count me in on the stupid side :D

[lapis elm]

It's backwards lol

[shy flame]

Me getting it in 3.5 hours was lucky

[lapis elm]

Nah most people don't even realize it's a thing until they start farming suggmas

You're not alone

[jade folio]

I got the recipe today, but i used all my hampters upgrading everyone else's weapons and material bags

[shy flame]

.... I didn't learn it from suggmas specifically but definitely didn't realize recipes disappear from drop table when you have them until w5

[shy flame]

this is okay unless your day job is running a rodent shelter

[lapis elm]

[glacial venture]

btw...do hampters count as normal drop as frisbees do?

[shy flame]

No.

[glacial venture]

so we cant print them...hm....

[lapis elm]

Frisbees are what they are because they're slot 1

[shy flame]

frisbees are also what they are because they support the people's golf

[smoky stream]

Which toon should I use to push? Debating DK v ES.. I wanna rush through this to see w6

[teal lynx]

DK or Bubo

[smoky stream]

I’m too noob for Bubo

[glacial venture]

DONT rush...or w6 will kill you once you step out^^

[smoky stream]

Just wanna start skills

[glacial venture]

most likely you only need to reach moles

unless boss only opens when you reached tremors

[smoky stream]

Yeah main worry is just getting enough dmg for boss

[glacial venture]

but tremors drop keys better

[teal lynx]

I won't tell you to not push, especially since I don't know your Progress. But when W6 releases you can always use candy to push W5

[zinc torrent]

What are your card set ups for death note farming?

[teal lynx]

This assumes afk farming

[smoky stream]

I mean everyone told me not to rush to W5 but here I am tripling my damage/prints/coins with all these buffs

[jade folio]

I use this for active, probably not good tho

[zinc torrent]

So pretty much what I have ty

[glacial venture]

who would farm dn on bb actively....

[zinc torrent]

Afk farming on all my guys

[teal lynx]

It's generally adviced to Push to W5 in here. But not to push W5
This is a big difference.
Yeah. The W5 Skills are massive so getting to W6 as early as possible will probably be as good as W5 was

[glacial venture]

i would still wait

[eternal dove]

only time i would figure is if farming super chows

[glacial venture]

you can push to w6 on day 1 with candies

[eternal dove]

well actually not actively

candies wont work on w6 day one tho

[teal lynx]

Candies will work in W5 to reach W6

[eternal dove]

ahhh

[lapis elm]

Pushing to a new world to unlock the mechanics, then backtracking to get easier paths to progression is certainly more efficient and absolutely recommended

Don't brute force stuff

[eternal dove]

this is what i get for just tuning in

[glacial venture]

id say use the time now to improve account and candy to w6 when its out

better than pushing now and not improving account in the meantime

[smoky stream]

I mean 1 character pushing doesn’t mean no progress

[shy flame]

candy is for my grandmother, especially hard caramel candies

this response sponsored by Werther's

[glacial venture]

i hate werthers after they changed their name here^^

[jade folio]

I just dont like the taste tbh

[glacial venture]

im getting old...they changed the name here 26 years ago....

[cyan mantle]

4 more hours

[hexed pine]

800 more idk how many hours this gon take

gawd dayum wrong chat

[glacial venture]

you need acc...you wont hit often enough in the next map

[hexed pine]

dat accuracy my guy

doesn't that prayer take away ur accuracy and defense

[scarlet cypress]

Just upgrade «higher accuracy from secondary stat» bubble a couple of times :p

[cyan mantle]

My accuracy is bad I'm fixing it by lvling up shaquacry

[glacial venture]

oh wait...next map has same acc needed...but still low^^

[cyan mantle]

Only damage

[cyan mantle]

The citringes need 13k more accuracy than what I have with is the next next mob

[cyan mantle]

Do u mean shaquacry?

[granite grove]

bit wordy to describe the bubble there, like just say the accuracy bubble or Shaquracy

[fathom lagoon]

15 more days

[gilded pond]

"bit wordy to be helpful"

[granite grove]

might be too much to say a bubble that multiplies kitcheb cooking speed for each diamond dish owned

[cyan mantle]

What item is needed to upgrade it

[granite grove]

anvil material

[cyan mantle]

Damn

[gilded pond]

don't sleep on anvil production

It will bit you later

[worn sonnet]

Got all the cogs for this saved

Now i gotta actually swap them around

This is gonna suck

[gilded pond]

took me over a week to recover from that ish

Not exactly, but you know what I mean

[lapis elm]

Balance of Precision is an excellent early game prayer that you just keep at level 1 and get +30% accuracy

It's also dumb easy to get

[gaunt shale]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

giving my horrible flashbacks to my stupidity

https://tenor.com/view/panic-gif-18851113

[worn sonnet]

Haha yeah

My math was wrong

I need 1 more

[gilded pond]

I got second hand embarrassment from that

[cyan mantle]

It lowered my damage by 300k

[gilded pond]

Almost as bad as my misunderstanding of DR earlier tonight

[atomic kettle]

only 300k?

[cyan mantle]

Yes

My damage is low alr don't rub it in

[atomic kettle]

I feel practically forced to use it

[gilded pond]

reference

[atomic kettle]

Because lul squires

[lapis elm]

I mean yeah, it drops it by 5%. That's why you leave it at level 1. But it's better than missing. Your raw stats are too low to facilitate your progress

[upper slate]

Is there anyway to improve Crystal spice production for this week jewel other than rolling pets with bigger lvls?

[cyan mantle]

Ye ty for suggesting it

[gaunt shale]

well, thats understandable tho, not like its explained anywhere ingame

[lapis elm]

Just keep chugging The damage comes quick

Make sure to use pinchy if you haven't. It can help a lot to get you on the right path

[atomic kettle]

Bet it's gonna take me like 3 days minimum to get arctis

just watch

[gilded pond]

Yeah, but I also made the same ulti cog mistake when I was saving them up, hence the embarrassment

[gaunt shale]

hahaha

yeah, thats just a skill issue we have

[cyan mantle]

Pinchy?

[atomic kettle]

[lapis elm]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203
Scoli's dayjob

[cyan mantle]

Ah ok

[gaunt shale]

he means auto review tool

[cyan mantle]

Ah ok

Well my accuracy is fine now until biggole mole

[gloomy dust]

How does active bubo work?

[lapis elm]

In general? Or are you confused on something specific?

The basics are:

1. Raise Dead respawns mobs
2. Tenteyecle lowers cooldowns whenever you kill something allowing to you to Raise dead with no cooldown
3. Poison from bubo talents and shaman's aura persist for long periods of time to facilitate killing mobs continuously that respawn
4. Combine with Cranium cooking and get alchemy gains until you get sick of it

[gloomy dust]

Yeah, specifically for alchemy. Thanks!

What’s the best map to farm on?

[lapis elm]

Tremors > Citringes for W5, if still in W4 you have floms or soda cans

[gloomy dust]

Ok, thanks

[wide halo]

Itll probably take like roadkill in the 500s to actually start cranium cooking tho right or is it just talent 200 and you good

Wait what's the jewel this week

[cobalt nymph]

i hit my 200 tent, and it's going great

really been speeding up my alchemy now

[wide halo]

I'm very close

I don't wanna risk my gems so I'm ancienting everything else b4 i purchase an ancient for fury

[cobalt nymph]

xD

i didn't even need it..

i went a bit overboard and hit 247 atm

but ye, hitting that 3 second cd is amazing

makes it feel so good on proper maps

[worthy helm]

Can't wait for lv 400 tent for the extra second

[cobalt nymph]

ye that would be insane

[hollow temple]

considering we went from 160 max talents in w4 to 320+ in w5 its not impossible to get to 400 in w6

[proven iron]

is there a reason why elemental sorcerer has lower wood prints then bubo? Or am i just missing something else?

[gilded pond]

Did my chat just get deleted or am I lost in this discord?

[gloomy dust]

Is there a better place for Bubo in w2/3?

[cobalt nymph]

honestly no idea, i didn't touch my bubo untill i hit late w5 for alot of the damage bonuses and then i was able to breeze through been told by many people that bubo just isn't worth doing much on untill you've got some levels, and hit the right levels for your skills 200+ tentaceye

[gilded pond]

I am by no means an expert at this game, but I think the first place Bubo really shines is at cans or worms in W4. Anything before that and you don't get much out of CC and if tentaceye isn't leveled, you don't get much anyway. Just my two cents

[prisma hornet]

idk what im doing wrong, its still too slow to 30s chaotic

[gilded pond]

Chaotic Kattlecruk?

[prisma hornet]

yes

ill do another attempt with timer ;-;

[glacial venture]

more ms and do homing arrows near him

[gilded pond]

More dmg, tbh

probably want like 2b min

[prisma hornet]

1158B hp left on 20s

[proven iron]

I just recently managed to get something actually decent out of my bubo. and its with 177 tentaceye. I managed to get 22k seconds on cans and i'm way over leveled on damage on that.
So yeah most likely theres not much use for bubo farming or even using cranium at all until you hit skills around lvl 200

[prisma hornet]

god

[crisp pasture]

Yeah. Your damage is just really low

[prisma hornet]

2b min? jesus christ

[gilded pond]

I mean, I have 6.3b-10b and dont one shot. About 15-20 seconds to kill

[prisma hornet]

welp time to just farm more alchemy n stuff

[gilded pond]

Just wait till that nightmare grind lmao 1000t

[glacial venture]

just go INTO the boss and press homing arrow

if its decent skilled it will likely kill it alone

[gilded pond]

Actually might be based. I was using DK. Didn't pay attention to your class

[true oasis]

guys could dk at blouqe be better than es at cryosnake for seesaw statue ?

[crisp pasture]

No. DK is good for crystal drops. ES is good for main drops.

DK drop rate just increases # of items dropped. ES actually increases your drop rate.

[gilded pond]

As in DK increases main drop and ES increases rare drops?

[crisp pasture]

I mean theoretically if you got stupid lucky on the seesaw drop at high orb then sure.

[true oasis]

hmmm i was wondering if the sheer amont dk would kill could compensate for that dr boost as ill only get around +15 dr on es i have 12.71 rn

[crisp pasture]

Well the DK is strat would also be a severe disadvantage. 1/5k vs 1/3334

[proven iron]

Es is usually killing mobs faster than dk.

[true oasis]

yeah if the statues dont line up dk would suffer

[proven iron]

Well the worst thing for dk is delay before respawn. Even if you have perfectly aligned stautes, the ~3second delay before mass respawn + the time for the attack to reach the newly respawned mobs just kills the whole pace.

While for es each mob respawns individually

[true oasis]

isee

[crisp pasture]

Oh god. I forgot about worship charge

[steady spruce]

why is IT telling me about this when it doesn't tell me about logs or copper - what should i be printing otherwise? ><

[lapis elm]

Because copper and logs are used for atoms primarily anyway

Why would it alert you

There's also an option to include oak and copper too

If you go into the settings

[steady spruce]

right, but i don't care that i'm atoming flies for the same reason that i don't care that im atoming oak and copper

[lapis elm]

I just shut off the printer notifs

[steady spruce]

it's still useful for me for other stuff, but not flies

all vials are maxed so i might as well just atom flies

[lapis elm]

Would be nice if they included a more robust list of stuff but it would probably make the settings list for printer wicked huge huh

[steady spruce]

BB at least can switch away from fish to ore for better samples, but it's not like bowmen have any better printing option for atoms

[humble valve]

hey guys i cant seem to find what increases the max level for towers in construction anyone know what it is?

[steady spruce]

carbon atom

[gaunt shale]

also rift con mastery 2500

for wizard tower

[humble valve]

thats what i was looking for ty 🙂

[eternal wasp]

For dk orb, how many points are needed if the po mana is maxed?

[granite grove]

267

300 if without

[sharp egret]

it is annoying that the sampling multi resets even when there was no free sampling slot anyway. well first time i accidentially reset it byy misclicking so it is not like it is a real problem

[eternal wasp]

Noted. Thank you 🙏

[prisma drift]

Welcome to the club

I love resetting my gold relic on accident

[normal minnow]

how to unlock blobfish

[eternal wasp]

Ever since I misclicked it
I started removing it from my attack bar

[sharp egret]

for the td ones there is an atom and also a rift construction upgrade but you need to already have a lot of buildings for that one

[teal lynx]

Do the Blobfish Quest on the Choco Map in W4
Also Hey Rac 👋

[normal minnow]

hey xaya 👋 and thanks xaya

[gaunt nymph]

where do i find the weekly boss tutorial for this week?

[gaunt shale]

#1157094107085283428 message

[normal minnow]

first 5 skull hell yea

[buoyant mural]

I just bought the draconic cauldron but my cauldron didn't change?

[teal lynx]

You need the Bleach Cauldron for it to visually change

[raven fog]

Whats the blbutye in future content

I don’t remember the reference

[buoyant mural]

ooof

[teal lynx]

You still got the bonus, but not the visual
You will get it once you buy the bleach one

[teal lynx]

#💖future-content-blog message
just scroll up

[junior arrow]

nice work mate

[raven fog]

Thanks

[normal minnow]

thanks

[fathom lagoon]

The weekly boss goat

[shy flame]

how to make my alchemy gains look good on tinder

[quartz oriole]

when accuracy becomes not a problem anymore, should i keep focusing on the secondary stat on equipment (for the crit talent) or is it better to focus on the main stat?

[sick sentinel]

Main

[teal lynx]

Skilling Obols you wanna do till Gold (Dice Square Shape) right?

[junior arrow]

crit chance is easy to get you wont need the secondary at all

[sick sentinel]

Besides for slab yeah, slush and kruk should be better in the other slots

[teal lynx]

I got all Slab Obols already
Wasn't sure if there was maybe another Square Obol I missed

Thankfully my Circle are all done (except Catching)

I got 4 Silver catching Obols

[shy flame]

every obol you wanna do till +1 slab

[autumn hollow]

Is there a guide that recommends what stuff to focus on in the atom collider first, or is it all pretty much the same priority?

[hearty maple]

In theory lowering Collider upgrade cost has highest priority. But it scales like poo

[teal lynx]

Boron > Unlocking Stuff > Hydrogen/The first 2 or 3 levels of Helium in my opinion
Edit: That doesn't mean hard focus Boron. But unlock/upgrade bonuses accordingly with a focus on Boron if you can

[shy flame]

Boron is one letter away from moron so I never level it because I'm afraid to confront my own stupidity

[cosmic temple]

i am a moron

[oak pawn]

does anyone know where the guide for the 115 round in pet arena equinox bubble is?

[teal lynx]

Looter, Peapod, Refill, Borger

[autumn hollow]

Tips and tricks

[oak pawn]

tyty

[sick lion]

!gear

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[autumn hollow]

If you don't have peapod, you "could" do it with rattler, but its very luck dependent. I had good success leaving the open slots in the middle of the pets

[shy flame]

if you don't have peapod the gamba way to approach it is rattler, looter, empty, refiller, empty, borger

it is dependent on rng but it worked out for me

[autumn hollow]

Mine was similar, I went looter rattler empty empty refiller borger

[hearty maple]

Biggest impact is probably the first 1or2 lvls of helium

Hydrogen Lithium and Beryllium are very cheap to Max so id say do those next

Sodium: only when you snail has reached the appropriate 5lvl threshold

Neon: meh. Damage can be had everywhere

Fluoride: surprisingly large bonus! If you meal’s are at an appropriate level

Oxygen: low prio

Nitrogen: a couple levels are good but it’s s a slow burn

Carbon: only level when all towers up to poison are maxed

Boron:Great! But a particle sink

Beryllium:meh

[shy flame]

sodium is unhealthy because most processed food in the US is overly saturated with sodium

[static basin]

i can almost taste that 4300

[potent edge]

What dmg should i be looking for when trying to progress w5? At 11m max but think i need more since i need loads of kills per portal.

[frank harbor]

How is this even possible. I’m at 273…

[static basin]

just efficiency and afk gains really, every possible source in the game as high as i can possibly get

missing about 10% afk gains that i know of

a bit from keychains, the random event star talent, arcade and 1 or 2 more % from some extra div levels

[hearty maple]

Begone back to the depths of endgame where you spawned. Get thee behind me!

[static basin]

i've seen as high as 405% afk for cooking, and 231m efficiency

so still a big chunk that im missing

[junior arrow]

im struggling to get past 375% afk for cooking. i need to find what it is im missing cause thats a lot of lost ladles

[static basin]

this may help

[vale shale]

Which star sign should I pick?

[vital wave]

30 from obols?

[static basin]

6% x5

[vital wave]

how? 6 divine?

oh kk

[frosty shore]

you can reroll it to 6% each

[autumn hollow]

Depends what you are doing. If you are making a new character, it doesn't matter, since you can change them later. If you are doing a specific task, pick the star signs that aren't infinity that help with that task

(Or if you have starsign doubler, pick ones that are infinity that help)

[junior arrow]

that helped a bit thanks, im down 4% from sigil i knew that, but seems like im also down 12% from equipment compared to you and a little bit of divinity as well. but its mostly from the sigil and equipment. so i probably need better time candy keychains

[static basin]

my keychains are both 8%

sadly havent been lucky to snag a 10% yet

[vital wave]

is there any decent way to farm these candy keychains?

[vale shale]

Thank you I think I should watch a guide xD

[vital wave]

or its just HH dungeon?

cz i havent gotten a single one yet and im r48

[static basin]

i just do my x40 happy hour once a week, usually get ~33k flurbos to buy 11 t3 keychains weekly

[autumn hollow]

Are you brand new to idleon? If so, the W1 and W2 questions channel may be more help to you

[vital wave]

yaeh i need to stop buying opal rings and get the t3 keychains

[junior arrow]

my keychains are both 4% so with doublers that does add a bit

[vale shale]

Tysm

[sweet pine]

wait what divinity minor giving you 53%?

[static basin]

goat and im dooted so all chars giving ~+5.3% each

[glad cedar]

Doot op confirmed

[sweet pine]

oh

5.3 each i see

DOOOOT

so i'm only missing 83% from divinity 👍

[static basin]

yeah sadly getting ladles/day even close to 4k is basically impossible dootless

I think Contract is at about 3.5k a day, and he's a great reference as a dootless endgamer

[paper sail]

I'm almost 3.4 myself

[glad cedar]

That's honestly closer than I would have thought it would be

[sweet pine]

dw i will get my free doot in 2 days

i think

[glad cedar]

I'm just a simple man who wants his very own pet slug

[autumn hollow]

If your luck is anything like mine, you'll get a 10th sheep

[signal osprey]

Yeah I'm just shy of 3.5k and if I had doot it would be 4.3k lol

[sweet pine]

indeed

soon i will catch up to you

[glad cedar]

Do we have any reason to suspect pet rotation in w6? I would think not but don't know if I missed anything

[autumn hollow]

I've not got a rift slug yet, my best is the 2 rams

Still missing custard and doot too 😦

[sweet pine]

not bad those, you can do colo-bleach thingy

[autumn hollow]

?

[signal osprey]

Lava hasnt mentioned anything regarding companions in quite a long time

[sweet pine]

candy bleach log -> put to storage -> level up wis bubble -> repeat

[glad cedar]

Ok cool I just don't wana miss slug and have to wait a year for it to rotate back in

[pearl cedar]

Weird

[static basin]

If there's any future plans, it would be a looong time from now. Lava wouldn't taint w6 release with companion stuff haha

But i doubt he's gonna touch companions ever again

[pearl cedar]

His problem will be if his mods want to deal with the backlash again

[autumn hollow]

Neat idea

[glad cedar]

I can't imagine they do haha

[signal osprey]

Well if what he said is true then he shouldnt even need to do companions again any time soon

[plucky edge]

imagine swaping pets like 1 or 2 weeks before 100% guranteed doot would happen

[signal osprey]

His claim was that the money helped keep his ads rolling

And I know there are individual players who funded almost a month of google ad time on their own

So he should be good for a bit lol

[knotty adder]

which po box i shoul level up on DK? i already maxed out fight, dmg, mine and drop

[glad cedar]

Let's be real if he only needed ad money he could just released a new pack

[signal osprey]

I agree this wasnt the best way to go about it

[plucky edge]

i really believe that he underestimated the impact it would have

[autumn hollow]

Gaming? Health? Mana?

[glad cedar]

Yea same

[signal osprey]

If he released a "Hey google is scamming me and I need rent money" bundle I wouldve bought it

[plucky edge]

same

i dont mind spending on a game i love

[glad cedar]

Yea I buy every pack basically as a form of subscription to this game, and I'm sure a lot of players are like that too

[pearl cedar]

I think the best part about companions is you can't even trade free rolls for gems

Keep the filthy f2p casuals out of here

[dry slate]

How should one go on about divinity as a fresh w5?

[teal lynx]

Check this out: #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
This is also pinned in this Channel

[lament hearth]

Question: I changed from a luster rod to a dreadolo rod. And my sample rate of the fishies in the W3 waterfall dropped from 4k to 1.5k. Why was my fishing sample worse with a better rod?

[tacit tulip]

waterfall fishes follow the normal fishing rules- there's actually 4 fish there

you have to sample until you roll the "easy" green tier fish

[pearl cedar]

Assuming you also restoned your new tool

[tacit tulip]

also that, though I wouldn't expect it to quarter your sample

[dry slate]

thanks 😄

[faint niche]

Morning friens

[tacit tulip]

Morning all. Today is officially the day

[faint niche]

yay! wishing you luck sakori!

im farming batteries for 2 of my toon's dna splicers

[signal osprey]

Today is the day I will get my last pickle too

[faint niche]

Think we get a w5 splicer and pet on drop of w6?

[tacit tulip]

there's potential for it but only lava knows

[teal lynx]

Today is no special day. I just farm plunders like the last 3 weeks

[faint niche]

To be fair, I just hope we get another store pack with the drop of w6 or sometime around then. I use them to catch up to the items I missed like that one that had the random cape

[signal osprey]

There will definitely be a new bundle and limited shop rotation on W6 launch

[weak vector]

hard to tell. I believe the row for w4 pets was coded in at w4 release. but we don't have that for w5

[faint niche]

I can't wait. Though I really need to finish this one day

[faint niche]

oh nice! I still need to beat the last boss in w5 pet battle >.<

[tacit tulip]

we're getting at least 1 spice (my bet is 1 spice, 3 meals) which means at least 1 pet battle

[sacred verge]

new battles gonna be so much pain

[tacit tulip]

it'll be hard to come up with an effect for w5 pets to not be useless compared to the existing meta

so they'll probably be purely for the breeding exp/shiny stats

[faint niche]

True. Also wonder if we will get new gems in the lab eventually

im bored while waiting for my coworker to come grab the keys to the work van so I can go relax today

[tacit tulip]

I'd expect a gem at least eventually - I'd ideally like to see the board expanded, maybe once we get more char slots

[teal lynx]

Assuming lava doesn't forget about the merit achievement, we definitely get one some

Maybe not in W6, but at some point

[tacit tulip]

maybe there'll be a shiny pet that greatly increases breedability for the achievement

Right, I hate to say it but today I need to resample

I was gonna leave it till w6 but I'm out of void ore, and need it for the 200 stack

[teal lynx]

Wouldn't breedability automatically increse shiny pet speed?
This is kinda weird, since the Achievement takes like several thousand (million?) years

[weak vector]

i thought breedability only affected next pet rate?

[teal lynx]

So the whole formula behind breedability levels would need a rework

[tacit tulip]

today marks a brilliant milestones of all uis unlocked

[weak vector]

imo shiny pet rate is kind of irrelevant because of bubble 20

[little parrot]

did sandy colleseum change?

[teal lynx]

For this achievement

[sick sentinel]

like longer?

[tacit tulip]

No, if you're stuck turn off any prayers that effect HP

[little parrot]

not stuck, just gotta hit the palm tree and such now to keep multi up while wait for spawn

[weak vector]

wiki doesn't say breedability affects shiny speed tho

[signal osprey]

If all you need is void ore you could candy it if you dont want to sample

[tacit tulip]

True, will look into it and see how much I need

[weak vector]

yeah, given that my sample is almost a gstack I think you can just candy it 😂

[teal lynx]

Not the actual breedability 7. But bonuses such a fenceyard speed from Meals affect Shiny level afaik
So in order to fix the achievement we need either a 1e1000x multiplier to breedability speed instantly making shiny pets give the max bonus or the formula needs a rework so the Achievement is possible

[weak vector]

OHHHHH i get it

could just be for every power of shiny pet you have, like the vman talent, atom collider, and schow for cooking

[signal osprey]

Man I am not looking forward to the stopwatch spam in W6

I'm using a couple of them now to finish the pickle because we get so many trophies refunded from the boss

And this is kinda tedious

[tacit tulip]

afk claim gives me: 13.5k bars
and costs: 512k ore

I need to do 740 afk claims, which is 380M ore

Yeah I'll just candy it

[weak vector]

There's 17 pets per world, so 85 if we get w5 pets. If the shiny skill is (+1xlevel)% per every pet, then by level 7 that's a 314x multi to breedability

[worldly gulch]

I just pushed all relevant skill-levels (of my entire family) to 300+ for passive skill cards with skill mastery. That makes room for a ton of cards in most of my skilling setups. What are you guys using for skills after skill mastery removes the need for most non-generic cards?

[teal lynx]

#idleon-gen-chat message
Which is not at all reasonable to hit lvl 7

[weak vector]

ohh sorry i dumb again

[sick sentinel]

somehting like this, swap for relevant stats/food effect

[little parrot]

one day rift will not keep me back.. nor equinox...

until then all platinum cards has to suffice

[worldly gulch]

haha ok i dont even know 3 of the top row @sick sentinel

thank you ;)

[sick sentinel]

chaotic troll, chaotic efaunt, stilted, and nm chiz

[clever tundra]

how many capes am I gonna get before I get the damn necklace to drop

[glad crow]

finally got there

[little parrot]

yes

[fading plover]

i'm scared to ask...how many capes so far?

[clever tundra]

3

[fading plover]

good lord

[weak vector]

lucky you

at least that could have been 3 quests completed when you eventually get one necklace

[clever tundra]

16.27 DR

[fathom grove]

Closing in on 4500.

[vital crypt]

How much dmg should i have to kill kruk with dk

[weak vector]

at least 7

[glad crow]

btw should we be saving up coins? it seems like it from lavas post

[weak vector]

nightmare? normal? chaotic?

[vital crypt]

Normal

Just reached the map

[little parrot]

what did his post say?

[olive sphinx]

Ez to kill

[weak vector]

if you can one-shot the moles you're fine

[glad crow]

i mean the one in fututre content

[fading plover]

skill 2 might have it's own form of currency so who knows

[vital crypt]

Ok thx

[tacit tulip]

ok yeah wasn't too bad 😄

[weak vector]

gz on 200 gstacks!

[tacit tulip]

I need to make the bars

but ty

[weak vector]

oh, oof

[sick sentinel]

ez candy

[glad crow]

oh i see the wording could also be some other coin

[fathom grove]

I assume it’s a special currency from the skill

[little parrot]

"that you'll make with coins from Skill#2"

[glad crow]

[sick sentinel]

yeah

[weak vector]

150 citric, here I come

[glad crow]

reading hard okay

[weak vector]

i'll be here for a while

[worldly gulch]

Is this portal bugged or some easteregg? I just reached mining 50, it showed up, I cant enter it. Restarting client does not help.

[clever tundra]

future content

[sick sentinel]

the correct portal is bottom left

[worldly gulch]

I see, thanks

[glossy rain]

bro there is a max timer for worship?

:S

[weak vector]

nvm i lost XD

[knotty spade]

may I ask what your setup is?

I'm having a hard time getting past 110

[weak vector]

#endgame-gen-chat message

[knotty spade]

I don't have access

[weak vector]

#👀read-me

[teal lynx]

#👀read-me click the peanut

[tacit tulip]

need to go to the shops to do my void bars, but gmush kills looking less terrible these days

[clever tundra]

welp another 1120 kruk keys down and no necklace

[knotty spade]

thank you both

[weak vector]

oh right, w6 means i don't have to focus on grind time

[plucky edge]

why not?

[weak vector]

bc the final mob will have much better xp gains that wurms

[plucky edge]

still more with higher grind time

[glad cedar]

Still will have even more with gt

500 won't even be midgame by the time we mid/late w6

[plucky edge]

well i do think 500 will be midgame

[weak vector]

good thing this isn't #endgame-gen-chat

also- who cares? I'll still get the equinox dream done

[plucky edge]

i mean if you have better stuff to do you should prio that but i think you will need a bit of money for w6 aswell so bubo farming wouldnt be that bad

also keys for 10 divine trophys

[weak vector]

meh one trophy is fine for now

[paper sail]

Divine trophy pretty good 🤤

[cerulean hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/heroes-thats-what-heroes-do-thor-ragnarok-thor-thats-gif-20445883

[atomic kettle]

guess I just wait an entire day then

[cerulean hemlock]

I'm just hoping there isn't a better trophy in W6 🥺

[atomic kettle]

[teal lynx]

Luckier Lad already better for Dr

[atomic kettle]

Ok how about LuckIEST

[glacial venture]

but not by much

[cerulean hemlock]

Good Morning!
Also, DR is surprisingly underated for early/mid/early-late gamers

[teal lynx]

16% when doubled. That is much

[glacial venture]

0.16 you mean

[cerulean hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/theyre-the-same-picture-the-office-pam-the-office-us-gif-20757621

[atomic kettle]

is it underrated or is it just that early on you're a bit strapped for stats

[cerulean hemlock]

I think it's underrated because people only care about damage

[teal lynx]

Using the same notation lava uses
And yeah 0.16x dr is a lot in late game

[static basin]

more like 0.24x dr after multis too

[teal lynx]

(+ you get around 40-45% more due to Bundles and Plunders)

[atomic kettle]

I do understand wanting more damage though. I kind of want to oneshot stuff before I care about DR sometimes

even more so for DK

[cerulean hemlock]

I just see a bunch of people say, " I want good stats"
Then you look at their alchemy.

[atomic kettle]

Hey I got an excuse

I didn't know you could decante

[cerulean hemlock]

What's that? >:3

[atomic kettle]

[cerulean hemlock]

😛 If only you read my guide
(Casual promotion)

[atomic kettle]

I didn't join the discord until like 2 weeks ago?

[cerulean hemlock]

#1183482341474172938 Take it, read it, embrace it

[atomic kettle]

yet I played WAAAY back

when there was no world 3

Then kind of stopped playing when fighting carrots

[cerulean hemlock]

I've played when there was no W2 😉

[atomic kettle]

came back to like 4m kills

[gaunt shale]

AAAAAA's guide "how to be endgamer"

I see that being a future project, and its just 2 pages of a big cauldron and a bean

[atomic kettle]

which is kind of funny considering I never left world 1

[cerulean hemlock]

How to understand the concept of the game, all in a tidy fourty four page analysis with a dude who doesn't speak like a posh British gentleman

[teal lynx]

Bri'ish?

[atomic kettle]

honesty more surprised that after joining the discord I've been able to do my first dungeon, my first happy hour and have zoomed from world 2 to world 5 lol

[cerulean hemlock]

I unlocked the MSA totem again....
And I forgot it existed 🤣

[atomic kettle]

Man I wish I could get further in construction

but everything needs shiny critters

[gaunt shale]

time to get gaming and unlock the bonuses from it

[atomic kettle]

I've found exactly 2 poison frogs

that's it

[plucky edge]

@cerulean hemlock are you proud of me?

now i only have to gather 3,4b more spitfire

[cerulean hemlock]

Yes ;3

[cerulean hemlock]

It'll be painful

[cerulean hemlock]

Craft silkskin, drop those down

[atomic kettle]

I did and rng is still laughing at me

[cerulean hemlock]

;3 do 20 hour traps

[atomic kettle]

I do!

[faint niche]

back!

[cerulean hemlock]

Time to do 40 hour traps then

[faint niche]

hi AAAAAA

[cerulean hemlock]

Oh, equip traps on ALL your characters

[sacred verge]

40 hour traps the the best

[atomic kettle]

I dooo!!!

[faint niche]

Love setting them down with my BM

[atomic kettle]

[cerulean hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-wave-boy-cute-anime-gif-17849850

[sacred verge]

so glad i changed to 40 after ages on 10h

[faint niche]

I've been doing 20 hour ones esp on exp ones for my Vman

[cerulean hemlock]

;3 Unlock Call Me Ash bubble

[faint niche]

Need to set one of the toons to ducks tho

[atomic kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/waltergotme-gif-18867690

[faint niche]

rn im finding pics to change my pfp with

[spring jasper]

is there a maximum to storage that the game doesn't tell me about and still lets me purchase maximum bank slots?

[cerulean hemlock]

Oh I'll get one for you 😎

Be warned, it will be a red panda

[atomic kettle]

honestly I'm more surprised how everything is gating me

[cerulean hemlock]

You can... skip vials

[atomic kettle]

God damn it

[faint niche]

XD I got like 2-3 of them im debating rn

[atomic kettle]

Fooled myself yet again

So you're telling me

I've been doing this in order

For how long?

[faint niche]

its what I did and was glad at reaching w3 that someone here suggested the "drop stacks of 1" to maximize the percentage

[cerulean hemlock]

Tsk tsk. Too nooby, I see 😉

[atomic kettle]

[cerulean hemlock]

Mhmm! Back then I accidentally discovered the cheese 😄

I wasn't the first person though

[plucky edge]

is that considered cheese or exploit though?

i mean surely he would've fixed it by now if it was bad no?

[cerulean hemlock]

It's considered a legal cheese

Ever wonder why this never affects alchemy?

Well, now you do 😉

[atomic kettle]

I might do what the one guy said and just keep it like this forever

[tacit tulip]

I would if hp wasn't used in sampling

[cerulean hemlock]

It's good if you have nothing, bad if you have something

[atomic kettle]

You want bad? I originally had 100 in the dice because I couldn't get any new talent books

What a regret that was

[cerulean hemlock]

100 in the dice? Shame on you!

[atomic kettle]

I won once so it was worth

[cerulean hemlock]

:3

[slender sandal]

slab plus 1 and then never again

[cerulean hemlock]

What's your damage atm?

[slender sandal]

until we get a diceyer trophy with 75 of those

[atomic kettle]

I have no idea I'm just sitting on divinity here passing the time

not high enough

[cerulean hemlock]

You're in W4 atm, correct?

[atomic kettle]

I am very fresh into world 5

may as well be world 4 tbh

[cerulean hemlock]

Get those platinum boots

[tacit tulip]

My only advice for you right this second: don't push into w5 deep at all, 3 maps at most to unlock the merit board

when a new world releases the portal requirements of the previous world are typically nerfed

sometimes the mob hp is reduced, too

[faint niche]

farming up 400 batteries is not fun >.<

well 600 cuz doing it on 3 toons

[atomic kettle]

I'm not even pushing atm

[tacit tulip]

Efforts right now should purely be into stat increases so once 6 comes out, you can push much faster

[atomic kettle]

Just wating to unlock arctis

I mean I guess I can start farming and let everyone else just stay in divinity purgatory

[cerulean hemlock]

Remember you are loved! Unlike this guy! :3

[faint niche]

O.O

thats a smol guy

[cerulean hemlock]

It's a big world

[frail schooner]

explain your smolness

[plucky edge]

thats what most people here equip before they present their hottakes

[sweet pine]

did you get you account back?

[faint niche]

afk a few

[atomic kettle]

It's a bit too spicy here

[cerulean hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-peralta-i-wish-brooklyn99-b99jake-gif-23668724

[sweet pine]

saw your pic on achievement 35m gmush in 2 hours

[cerulean hemlock]

Hmm.. get more hit chance, get that WIZ bubble up

[cerulean hemlock]

Oh no 🤣 That was Ifhalna's

[sweet pine]

oh

[cerulean hemlock]

I was just saying plus a bit of slab

I'm still stuck with this account :3

[plucky edge]

[sweet pine]

you still have 15 days before you stay in #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

Alone

[plucky edge]

just accept us buying you packs so lava will add a work around for your old account

[atomic kettle]

wait did this really just happen, I don't have that thing to make the first 3 things you kill spawn crystal mobs

[plucky edge]

i will keep him company

he listens to my issues

im here for his

[sweet pine]

[cerulean hemlock]

I got two printer proccs today! 🥳

[cerulean hemlock]

😢

[sweet pine]

i've been 1 proc for a week

[cerulean hemlock]

W5 unlock gives +4 daily crystal mobs

[atomic kettle]

Oh

That's kinda neat I guess

[cerulean hemlock]

I'm so close

[kindred dagger]

Once you have converters, should you leave your spices alone, or do you still click on them?

[cerulean hemlock]

I think it's still click, since achievement and everything

Now I need a name

[tacit tulip]

rght it's time to waste all my candy on gmush

but importantly, void bars

[tacit tulip]

I suggest something that heavily uses the letter A

[fading oracle]

What Class will he be?

[cerulean hemlock]

It's a name that's actually good ;3

[cerulean hemlock]

Star Sign should be evident enough 😄