#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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Their lvl doesnt matter
how does one get to 24mili, how thats possible
I have only 4 slots now, so I get mono and push arena for 5th slot?
You can push arena without doing anything if you use this setup
Just make sure not to use burger ability
Its useless
you can put mimic on auto - just turn off auto use abilities, block the first volley, then turn auto use back on
the game will handle the rest
Is this prayer worth if it reduces your kills per hour in the afk menu? Trying to push 1b kills.
If your dmg is high enough
I think you pushed it too hard xd
only worth if it gives em
it gives me curently, so i'm using it
there's two uses for it
- You don't have the damage to MK. It'll increase your kills. If yu have MK, the damage loss will drop you a MK tier and you'll lose kills
- You have so much damage that you can hit max multikill even with the debuff
Aye ๐ so not worth it (not worth in 99% of cases)
is DK best for pearler shells?
es should techincally be better with his portal
technically ES would produce the most shells, but you usually use DK because of the other benefits (construction, statues) instead
16 more days 
i aint worried about statues, i aint got no where near the onxy starter stuff
iam trying to make troll gear, at least 1 suit, before w6 lol
i just sorta stopped using them when onxy patched in lol
Statues are great and honestly crazy strong, but you shouldn't focus on onyx if your account isn't set up for it
There are quicker, more efficient paths to progress beforehand
Going for troll definitely good
It's a pita but definitely better than it used to be
w3 gear? psh. i wam in skilling gear
And we still have the possibility that W6 gear will be dependent on the current gear that builds out of it
Good Morning!
I'm terrified of the possibility that it doesn't build off of divine
Same 
itll be based off farming. Gotta till them soils to get them roots to make RooTarmor
your RootKits will be amazing!
i hope its real rough to get 
BB will get some Rootbeer too, buffing respawn!
I have enough black salt where I'll be fine but that'll still sting
Bruh same I donโt wanna get troll stuff again pls
I'm terrified of 100,000 nullo salt recipes
1M nullo salt merits
If lava adds that as a meme, I shall sob
Surely we don't get... another page of refinery
but you got like 20x DR now right? super ez
Lava already confirmed there will be no new refinery pages a while back
I can sleep peacefully
I think the original plan in w3 was to have more (you can see the tabs) but I'm glad he changed his mind
the scaling is pretty bad
๐คฃ He realized refinery pages will be W8 content
200m biggole moles away from eclipse all
Just in time for new deathnote
Yesterday I dreamt about braverelease 
Hit 7.3 M damage
That means 10M is realistically possible! 
16 days till W6 drops
- gotta count today still
Can you tell me what to do instead?
Because im getting tired of this onyx thing
9 more pearler shells.. come on... beore i go back to sleep...

i did find out my chars could get all the way up to tremors on skill gear though. lol
(its not neglect if there is no need)
But if you changed from skillgear youd do more damage, get better kph, and get more experience/money
Holy mother of mild madness, been in W5 since it came out and I just now got a nugget of 331,332. So happy and excited to finally be past 100k!! I was stuck for so long on the low numbers. And then equinox came along and started getting increments of around 2k every now and then. But just now I jumped from 89k to 331k. I'm so happy!
I can sense the excitement! ๐
Next up: 1m+!
noice
send me some luck
got from 64k to 67k lmao
Oof. Know that feel. Hope you get bigger nuggets soon!
one day i will break 10k nuggie
Gotta love how 90% of the time you get a bigger nugget it's a 1% increase resetting your equinox stacks
i dont even have Equinox stax
Indeed
What's that? You have 400 stacks on equinox? Here have a nugget that is +1
Oh sorry man now you have 0 stacks
*Plus ten
what is cloud discovery value based on
I went from 50k to 250k to 5m to 28m so
it's so...beautiful
it took me 7 new nuggs to go from 50k to 100k lol ๐
Spoken like a non-chem-clicker
I have 14 Chem in my garden
Click now
Hi, how you guys deal with nightmare kattlekrunk on BMaster character, I am on 38Billion damage and it is pretty hard to deal with the moles
Same but i want 1 more nug upgrade
more damage, unfortunately
On harvest all? Ok
15 for equinox if you havent done that yet
๐คฃ
I have done all the easy equinox
Well apart from TD 120
That one I just need to not be lazy
When w6 comes out I will get 3 more dreams done ez
Green stacks, lvl 500 and pickle jar
And then I am finally a mid gamer
Are you sure about that? >;3
early mid gamer 
I mean I consider myself an endgamer but people are quick to complain about that
Uhh w4 town and companion park?
I can... broadcast a single gif to my tv?
I applied, and Buddha said nothing aside from, "I'll let #lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ decide if you're loved"
Buddha schmuda. They ain't approving anybody, why even bother 
Just donโt Atom only quickslap and itโs easy to impress endgamers
@pearl cedar We have renamed you to:
buddha schmuda
I wonder what the damage for W6 will be
I'm one step behind. QS at 2.7k 
Iโve never atomed it so Iโm at 530
NBLB hit it?
Iโm at 1950 bubble 2 for mage and warrior
2.95X
Clicking archer now with vman print
I do one slot coconut and one slot gmush
I wonder what's quick slap ๐ค
I'm stuck on the Frisbee GS. I will click Bubble 2s after that
2.2m. Only 7.8m to go 
Im at 150+- but trying for frisbee lol
I already finished my 200 
I want equinox symbols so my oak sample can be crazy
But I was too lazy to actually grind it
Enjoy a flashback
180 Gs can be done in around a week if you focus it
I have all my old progress photos AAA 
I hated my first ever message on the server ;P
hae 
Hae
awww you were so adorable back then
I was so hype when I got that stamp
I'm starting to ignore AFK grinding these mats and just start sampling them 
๐ฎโ๐จ Next up:
What is the minimum level of extra time / respawn I should be aiming for to get 2k killroy kills with a standard bubo (aura, fart ghosts one shotting)
Fun fact: Wispy Lumber is....
It depends on the Map. You could get it with 60 Time and other Maps will need 100 Time
Respawn is not great. So I can't tell you about that. I got 10 in that
Log moment
do gold balls carry over to the next shop rotation? or do i need to use them all before Feb 16th?
Mhmm
Maps like Frogs and Rats are pretty good for Killroy. Meanwhile Gmush is pretty bad and needs 100+ timer
Yep, they carry over
Hello Buddha Schmuda
Someone gotta gatekeep
Good to know. My current max is 1400, though I don't recall the map. Just did a gmush, and barely broke 600
I only disapprove if I don't make it past your w1 page
oh really??? One second ๐
Should I dump thr gold balls I have into the DR upgrade?
children who yearn for the mines?
Aside from the good mods 
i mean in 2 weeks we will hav enew rotation to think of
Or maybe the trapping upgrade?
Wrong Gif, but it still fits the scenario
What the gmush doin
World Domination
w8 Gmush - firing a pump action shotgun
So like the 2 of them
W6 giving lower tier mobs upgrades?
There's at least four good mods in this server ;3
Nahhh they chem clicked
i dun even have chemical plants yet
This is what happens when you dont help in purging the gmush population
If you're allowed to talk in endgame as a mod you're good.
sorry @tall horizon
I don't see the soldiers holding 1% cash
Hello Pazuzeus! 
buddha how to get pass that endgame gate ๐ฎ
any ideas as to what time of day w6 will release?
No idea ๐
thanks
Thats the neat part, you dont
I'm betting on Feburary 61st
Hi
ahahha the endless path for endgame... unachivable
ahaha
^ This is the derpiest gif I've ever seen
Y u bored, go play idleon
Are you hyped for W6?
@gaunt shale Hiiii Kanna Banananananana! 
You mean midgame gate*
We're all midgame 
ohhh yes cant wait for resampling
Thanks for the compliment โค๏ธ
true midgame for life
w6 is hype, but id be much more hyped if hourly clicks would end
I deserve midgame 

There's midgame and middergame 
i just need to pass buddha in LD on highest dmg and my life will be complete here
Watchu doing? Crafting kruk armor?
you're at the brink of early game
Please be more than one single procc ๐ฅบ
went and used time candy on gmush so I could tell @simple ermine how much xp I get for thread 
I'm a big fan of looking at anvil page2 and stamps. If you ignore the easy parts of game it is indicative of how you treat the rest of your account.
Do I have to feed it as well?
One printer, 2 bday.
Also if you don't play active you'll never get there
There is no endgame in a game where the stats keep going up
The better indicator would be QS lvl
I-i-i-iis autoloot required? ๐ฅบ
ahahhaha most neglected part XD rip
should i focus on unlocking goat or getting lvl 15 divinity?
Unlock goat
are these not completable? (and yes, I've completed W1 to W4 dailies)
Yep
Meme levels is fine or whatever, but pushing QS because you cant kill nkruk on vman means the rest of your account needs work
Lava likes his little memes
Not that we need the trophies
it was ment more as a joke 
Until lava nerfs the shit out of it lmao
QS and damage are the only indicators of account progression surely 
if you need QS for Nkruk your account lacks so much its sad
Already too OP
will be a sad day when QS is nerf
Needing damage for nkruk on vman is merely a sign of lack of willpower
imagine lava releases w6 with a nerf to QS ๐
I don't think Lava would nerf it, only thing he's ever nerfed on purpose was WP
The day qs is nerfed is the day I stop playing active. Rift is the only place I can bubo atm
"All linear bubbles are now not-linear
rekt"
Gotta prolong content for dmg enjoyers
It made the rat tail vial description irrelevant 
there only like dmg progress and printing that gives me satisfaction XD will be sad
Nerfed bubble 1
it would be funny if he did tho, and then all the hardcore QS guys with poor accounts suffers in w6
Oh! I never recall him nerfingnerding the main stat bubbles
Bubble 1 used to be affected by stat gain
Two things, that's it then
๐ Ohhhh that one
Now wonder my damage suddenly dropped by 15% one day
I wonder what forum that's on ;3
My only issue if he nerfs it at this time is that it should've been nerfed forever ago. Nerfing it now and kneecapping peeps who spent months using their boron clicks would be a shitty move
alomst like companion system
But on the other hand killing alchemy would be good for the game 
i agree. I believe something like a 10k cap would be a fair trade off. the guys with +10k can survive the loss. tho i bet there are better solutions out there
refund the points 
I agree
Idk about killing but an actual cap on every bubble is a good idea
i mean yeah, everything is calculated, just cap at X - and refund the points to use elsewhere.
Tbf he does that ocassionally
But you said only 2 things have been nerfed
Sunk cost fallacy but a legitimate risk. Some people live only to meme and alchemy is the road to memes
He nerfs other things by adding other things ;3
Pet comps, for one
i dont think alch needs killing but a system for "autot lvl" is much needed. some personally selected bubbles autolvl or some pre determined ones auto lvl
ES double link became trash
the hourly click system is just soo terrible
we shall see what happens, especially since W6 is around the corner with more alch
He definitely didn't think far enough ahead. But at the same time, overflow exists so he can't exactly make the costs scale forever
If only the costs did scale, but the atom costs capped
I personally like that people can have different account styles. If everything has a max then eventually everything will even out.
Would be much, much healthier
he could make cost scale with the correct system in place
max level for bubbles?
And that sounds like communism and communism bad
tho i do like the fact that cost caps
Or he could blindside us and make W6 scale us linearly by a factor of e^23 and make all other content useless 
lol
I vote remove resource cap. Make mat cost for bubbles go to 10b and adjust atoms accordingly
I dont even disagree tbh
Agreed. And also remove cap for storage
He should just add IS colored numbers and remove cap entirely 
we would just have the same problem but with 10b cost now for a click
I want a 100M red number stack
And retroactively delevel bubbles to their appropriate cost levels 
it would also requier alot of work on the system to allow for larger stacks for very little change
He's gonna need a permanent fix for overflow I would guess by end of w6
but that would make the difference beetween late gamers and new player even bigger
however a auto lvl system would remove hourly clicks and dosent need to change the way numbers are currently coded
Good
Just reset all bubbles to 1k max cause everyone who has higher has definitely been abusing the system
how tf we going to reach 90-95% on skilling bubbles withou atom
10B cost cap and Iโm still hourly clicking the first 3 bubbles every hour 
Where were you when slap is die 
Quit
I was everyone dance dinosaur
Print resources
Not sure what he's going to do when his bandaid for overflow starts to overflow in 6 months
new bandaid
@gray pagoda Do you need a hug?
I mean we're going to get to a point where everyone stumbles into overflow problems just by progressing normally
He's gotta figure it out eventually
Rebirthing ๐คฃ
If rebirthing is added I will quit
He said the thing
eventually the code is gonna need surgery, not a bandaid
I don't even think it'll take 6 months tbh
Nah their will always be people entering W7 chat with white damage numbers and 6 character slots unlocked asking how to progress the next map
That's why the alchemy meme pic will never die
True I have 170m and Im not even trying
Same XD
See? Even midgamers like buddha are having problems
Wait a minute....
Isn't that me? 
Bro you just did a rebirth and are still here
Could easily push 2-3x a week into w6 too I bet
True, but I'm insane ๐
Doesn't even get any benefit from the rebirth either
I got the benefit of knowing game mechanics 
Lava should honestly give you like 1% to dmg or prints or something
The benefit is the friends we made along the way
And uhh... oh yes!!!! ANVILNOMICS SHALL ALWAYS BE LEVEL ONE
Hi fren! 
1%. Huge ;P
1% dmg for every dollar your old account spent
just an autoloot would do
Hha I want T+% o
Print bonus too
That's 0%.
I know
Sounds like a good deal to me
Wait! Does Rammy Plush count? ๐ฅบ
should i use my candies to grab vman a bit earlier or save them for w5 pushing for w6 release
Who spends money for ingame stuff lol
is it worth upgrade pass 100%?
yes
Vman op
Auto Loot drives people bonkers
Several people have offered to buy it for me ๐คฃ
Why?
THey can't stand to see my weakness, I suppose
anyone need my spare nugget? 
i have threatened to buy it
thx all ๐
gimme pls
True
https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-voices-in-my-head-voices-cat-gif-23453583
Wrong gif again, and it still works
cant get higher than my 1,6mil nugg
shame it wasnt a upgrade
still stuck at 175m

Gib please
the grind continues 
Yeh not having autoloot locks us out of 90% of the gameplay :/
One day one day we get the f2p autoloot and everyone will be happy
;3 I'm dumb enough to play on steam
is there any way to skip the time in w5 becuase candy doesnt work?
F2p autloot locked behind a t2 companion 
Waiting faster
Paitence
I'd take it
Even that would be better than it is now, tbh
did lava mentioned about companion rotation upon w6 release?
Nope
Having Autoloot is still f2p. You are not playing the game without autoloot - It's a necessary purchase 
So I'm. f2p of the f2p? ๐คฉ
That emote looks weird
still paying?
the only p2w is gacha for jewel and chips imho
ik what u mean but for me its principal
Jewel and chip gacha is f2p
You forgot Arcade balls buddy
that aint p2w thats a scam rigged
It's p2gs
that one is pay to mald
Pay to get scammed
shit you not, i gotten this once in my life and thats it
In the case of @cerulean hemlock no. We would buy it for them 
No paying required and they he still refuses
saving 2k balls for w6
Yep! I'm insane ^^
I'm male btw โค๏ธ
Yeah why would aaaaa let you ruin his account
lmao
๐คท It's the benefit of playing the game for three years >;3
wym
I'm a pretty active member of the community XD
After we crowdfund the autoloot next will be my doot 
we can reach same about gains or even more in 1month with auto loot
so someone just paid it for u?
Indeed
Noooo I've been 100% f2p since I started playing the game
A lot of people here consider that a crime >;3
i am too:)
Me three
Im not, and IM proud i bought the auto loot
Fun fact is I've been f2p on two accounts now 
playing without autoloot is just bit insane, unless you never ever active
Autoloot is pay2win
Ayyy because I don't have autoloot, I never active! ๐ก
Yeah if you dont wanna buy bundles I get that but not having autoloot is not even playing the same game
It's true ๐
Funny thing is if you got autoloot you would prob catch up to your old account in a matter of a few months
doesnt it just pick shit up?
You can active in rift and still get alch done. It's not nearly as horrible as it was before rift
i dont get how its so crazy
you will; like get stuck for years without auto loot, good luck farmning oynx statues or greenstack shitty quest items
is it for crystals
the game lags pretty bad i think if you dont have it later on
thats the only reason i got it
If I played on steam ๐
Your time spent active farming crystals is more impactful than anything else you do in game
yeah but bubu active is just one of many active things you have to do for good progress
Pretty badly is a huge understatememt
damn
A lot of the things on that account were very timegated
i havent reached that point but i heard the rumors ๐
Idleon is a $5 game
Such as:
Good Construction
Unlocking Alchemy Bubbles
Unlocking chem... and artifacts... help.
Refinery, and a lot more iirc
im usually f2p king in games like these too but yea i dont like being gated like that
not really just how active afk you are(with auto loot)
but u cant buy auto loot all the time right
*4.99$, someone punish this man
isnt it a bundle thing
It's a permanent purchase ๐
So true. I can force myself to do maybe am hour of beans dk a day, but the rest of the day alch gains is all I can get.
Sucks, but as the game is right now it's all the f2p gameplay allows
You can buy it any time
Should be a button where my toggle is
I love how you're keeping up to par with the bubu nickname
ohhhhhhhhhhh its so hidden
he is named bubu, yall just wrong and I am correct
If you ever open your menu its right there lol
Hidden in plain sight 
but i never look at the top just go gem shop
It's hidden if you don't play active
Y'all are jus' dead wrong, and I'm correct ;3
His name is Bewboh
Nah that's his middle name
also whats the best class for rare drops??
ES
BB = Behbeh
ty
From mobs es, from crystals dk. That is if active
Afk vman/sb
If not, it's vman/sb
for the rare drop from the bosses
Vman
it a cape right?
Minibosses= DK
world
Bosses drop obols and capes sometimes, shiny limited stuff
oh ya, there is no point to up print samples size from stamps or bubbles if i hit 90%
W6:
Yeah, for now there is no point
If you can (and will) farm orb counter before killing a miniboss, yes, dk
Imagine not getting 450 orb count before killing 50 biggies
but wouldnt the bonus leave when i change maps
Yes you need to farm it every time to make dk better than sb/vman
im confused lol
my DK hits about 125 before the orbs phases out
that only works for minis right
You can stack the orb on the Map of Slush / Toxic Mush Minibosses = DK
World Bosses = Vman
DK orb:
Drop it
Farm # on it
Before it fades, summon the miniboss and stab it.
More loot, enjoy
okokokok tytytytyty
That's some thankfullness
learn smth new everyday
The same applies to Colo. You can stack the orb in there for Baby Yaga / Biggie / Slush / Mush
is it normal that even if I have 6 characters on mantra in and hour of afk I get less than 6 exp?
!mantra
Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.
In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.
(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)
@rough wasp I'm so back to grinding Colos 
(Not sure how many. 30-50 Tickets a day)
that's 62 tickets tho
how do u get 30-50 a day
po6
post office?
That's actually only 60. And yeah I needed to do the ones I accumulated over the month first

ah nevermind you prefilled inv 
Can't be caught missing a 72 hour
definitely not
does boss farming on vman give better results, if the only thing you're after is gems and cards?
cards, yes. Gems? no
gems drop at a flat unchangeable rate regardless of DR or boss type or world boss
thx
cards how? chance to drop, or quantity of cards? (or both?)
Grinding for kruk necks/wings is brutal 
Vman has that one card drop talent in the Journeyman Tab (?) and they get higher Dr, which also affects Card Drop rate
Quantity not sure
because i'm averaging 3 cards and 1 gem on my ES gainst w3 boss. Would switching to vman fundamentally change anything?
card droprate, normal droprate, and gimmie gimmie edit:actually unsure if gimmie gimmie affects boss cards
are the wings just better the higher wrld boss or are the "different"
Different
ive got 2 necks, no wings but haven't got the recipe yet
ugh
necks?
the other question i have is, i guess once you hit 3 stars on a lvl 2 or 3 boss card, it's not worth farming them anymore, right? Better to just farm lvl 1s for gems, and then buy cardifiers? Or is that just an insane amount of grind?
Pendants, im just lazy
It's better to farm normal bosses for gems for cardifiers, yes. But the grind is indeed awful
i farmed all w2 boss cards to ruby by hand. Depends how much time you have I guess
I need 2 more kruk necks but in also farming divine trophies hoping to have all 10 for w6 release
Need to farm keys, almost done eclipsing so i can go back to camping worms
Boss wings are essentially
W1 - Defence
W2 - Skill Eff
W3 - Tot Dmg
W4 - All stat
W5 - Afk + Skill exp
One day I'll be able to talk there... right?
wait u can get to ruby without 5star cardifer
wtf
how many is it
Rift 46 I believe
becuase it doesnt tell u so i just thought u couldnt
A lot
The Wiki has all the Info on that 
If you have the rift unlocked it tells you how many you need
oh
So if you cant see how many more cards you need for 5* then it means you cant 5* it anyway
Gotta push that rift
im only on rift 28 ๐ฆ
So mean @teal lynx ๐

is there an endgame chat lmao
That's alright, if I'm not there they just think they're better than they are 
I don't belong there and still type there 
Nobody belongs there
Yup, enable it in #๐read-me
#endgame-gen-chat
i prefer see it this way than acknowledge it exist XD
I treat it like going to the zoo and looking at the animals behind the glass
Its not any more nerd than this chat lol
These question channels are where all the nerds are tbh
true
The only difference between gen chat, endgame chat, and questions chats are the people who frequent them
The conversations are all the same
Haha, don't worry, all jokes. I'm doing great. Thanks for the concern 
Too low on keys now i need to farm kruk necks and wings on chaotic 
Most of the people in endgame also frequent other channels, so even thar really isn't different
Endgame isn't as bad ||anymore|| as people think
Yeah it definitely isnt as endgame as it was under the old regime lol
no wonder, contract is gatekeeping entire community in midgame, nobody is an endgamer anymore
Just be more endgame 
I stick in w5 chat as it's where I'm best suited to answer questions - I go to endgame chat if I need some number crunching confirming ๐
I spend a fair bit of time in both and occasionally pop into gen chat for some memes
using endgame chat like a calculator
good thing, im gonna do same, currently lvling shiny pets and then gonna do tests on how much progress you get again, just gonna throw the numbers into endgame and some math wizard can then tell me how much diff it actually makes 
Yesterday I made a couple clips where I was dropping luckier lads because gen chat said I wouldnt 
Hi can someone helps us to doot ? The third man skipped us we need a war on doot at pizza 1 pls
if you can remind me how it works, sure. I've never actually done it before
new batch for pets released after W6 drop
no, universe itself doesnt allow for new batch to come unless I am dooted
You need to take a warior, craft its dootjat eye and drop it at the altar in sand giants map
just spend some money and get him
Then type anything to spawn him
Please never get doot
npnp
but yeah my first doot was from an easter egg so I already hat the flute
so I've never done that before ๐
They would even bully me in there
My first doot was before the dootphone update :/
I occasionally go into gen chat to remind them that Garde isnโt the defense god 
Yeah I barely went in there under the old regime. The last time I did was when I took a 1b sample and was met with Thunda saying "man now even early game players can hit 1b
"
For reference that 1b was on the IE boards too. Top 10 is early game 

ah yes, 1b samples when i'm here sitting thinking my 37m wood is good 
my oak is only 363m but all the bonuses push it to 2.8b so im not complaining
Will resample after W6 drops and see what i jump towards
1b is early game? Sounds toxic af
Gate keeping at is finest
I would like to see how many people have reached this "midgame"
Not early, before early*
Tons 
cool
Yeah he called me clueless cause I said the base damage bubbles were overpowered lol. Before everyone started leveling them and all this started.
Bet how many people have ruby crystal day 1
i feel like they really have mixed alot, this is just more active
I just need 1 more kruk neck but only 500 keys remain 
Should i keep farming chaotic or just send the rest on nkruk
Guys, I know this Question belongs in #newplayer-chat-w1๐w2โณ. But what did you guys do after greenstacking those? ๐ ๐
i feel like you do that every week for doot luck 
I mean, just in context of the leaderboards, which is a small portion of player base, there are over 225 players with over 1b oak sample
nkruk until 10 capes and pendant 
Thats how it started yes
Thats what im tryna do lol but no keys left
i wonder how much samples are going to jump after a week of w6 lol
so many people haven't resampled in a long time with a shitload of gains
or first day 
Hopefully a ton because I need to candy bubbles 
Inb4 gold watch turned off first month of w6
He was just thinking ahead. He knew of the base damage nerf coming in W6 
Can see lava doing that to be fair 

then they just take up a spot in inventory for another month nbd
havent resampled in a year 

i still got 3 people without any sample on them....
God I need to stop playing this game, dreamed last night that my DK got the CC talent 
are you, by any chance, a beta tester 
we all dreamt about idleon at one point
Nope 
CaMp confirmed royal guardian is a fusion of a bubo and dk
ngl
without the ress and tent it wouldnt be good tho
Why DK with CC when you can get Bubo with Orb? 
bubo with orb would be much better
(I say this as a cons neglector)
i once dreamt i got cash dropped from mobs
, i was so rich until i woke up
over 1000 orb with bubu 
if bubo had orb, lets be real, we all would be doing bubo
If only orb affected liquid output too
cons aint gonna beat that
Speak for yourself
if bubo had orb, the cooldown from tent would make you recast it over and over, making it worthless 
Doesn offline dk get better gains anyway
or does it only recast with time remaining?
arent we already 
true, but we are dreaming!
Only for XP active DK gets less, still massively increases build speed
puts 1 point into orb
With 5 seconds I think
Active bubbo, after putting the orb just remove it from the skillbar ๐
Too active 
bubo and printer go brrr is best 
Orb with 2k kills is worth (?
then it would be minute clicking instead of hourly clicking
Now this I can agree on 
Yeah orb casts with last like 5-7s
I think i would add bubo to my main sb just to get 1m plunder kills.
I cant wait for lava to nerf con in W6 by releasing death bringer instead of royal guardian so everyone has to give up a squire 
Ehh iโll just reclass my blood berserker
All the 4 warriors 
jargon would be so sad 
It'll absolutely be deathbringer. It has a scythe as the icon, which is used in farming
That only works if we get extra character slots too
well.... that logic failed with the Divine knight and Divinity skill
Can it really be considered a nerf if it was never buffed? ๐ค
4 warrior accounts are coping 
I still have two BBs so the first will be getting swapped to the new class regardless of what it is
Its a very big nerf. Squire has the redox rates talent which is responsible for a lot of con progress
Especially with the Monk being a thing

Yeah but if you never receive the buff in the first place, how is it a nerf?
Only 2 necks 1 cape from 5k keys 
It's just regular progress at that point
Wind walker for sneaking skill?
Donโt remind me I still need to finish off my last 3 divine quest 
have you ever played any competive game?
Anyone who has 2 squires is getting the buff I dont know what youre talking about lol
If you have 2 squires now then you are getting extra con
No, not really. I suck at games 
If we get death bringer you will lose a squire
or lose an entire skill...
Oh, you were talking about two squire accounts?
we know what pancake will do 
Mb, didn't realize that's what you meant
I'll do it too
you telling me i only have 1 squire on cog board? 
The meta will be class swap BB to DB
And swap back after you save a fuck ton of ladles then cook and swap back again
No BB new meta
best meta
Although, doing that could fuck with your chows
but what about the huge family buff 
We donโt really know yet
losing your schows would be too much to drop a single BB I think
personal housing 
Chows are just based on death note
Oh is DB not a BB upgrade? Itโd be from DK?
it would be from barbarian
yeah, they're alternates to the w2/3 elite classes, not upgrades
Oh so itโd be a 3rd elite not an upgrade
Wdym? It's an elite class like ES or SB.
barbarian -> bb/db and squire -> dk/rg
Yea gotcha. Damn wtf we need more character slots
We'll probably get them as the elites are realeased
But naming wise DB does sound like an upgrade to BB tho
Do we know that for sure?
lava has confirmed the new classes are elite classes, and not something else
think lava said it, so like, we kinda know but not for sure since its lava ?
rta new characters to level 500
there's also 19 slots left in the family tree, which should be:
6 new elite classes
12 new super elite classes (tab5)
vman super elite (iman)
The heiarchy here makes it look like a direct branch off current elites
it does, but they aren't 
it would be to crowded otherwise
Question is, how many character slots we getting overall?
just your average lava UI foresight
Has to be at least 13
Figures. Release 6 new elites without releasing 3 new slots
probably just get them 3 at a time rather than the "coming soon" DK/ES/SB got in w4
otherwise 100% someones gonna pick a world 7 class and lock themselves out
Which is why he should release the 3 slots at the same time
He'll have to do something though. If new elites are based on subclass he will need to give everyone elite swap tokens
the existing tokens will need reworking too
as they just flip your tab 3/4 atm
there'll need to be a selection screen of some sorts, not to mention that family stuff doesn't work if you've class swapped right now - you wouldn't be able to get the new family bonuses
forgot about that
bet its still gonna be broken with new elite classes
game crashed 5h ago ๐ฆ

150k small life potioin missing and 1.5mil small speed potion
I slept all last night; windows update hit like 30 mins after I went to bed 
so im like, DK beans for speed potion 1.5mil left
Okay, I gotta ask since I'm actually here for once, does sailing level over 100 suddenly reset your captain rolls? 'cause for the past few weeks I've gotten quite literally nothing but 5% rolls tops. 2% sailing speed captains everywhere. Only gotten like 3 captains with a buy value over 1000 bars.
Working on getting my carpenter to be hit by NBLB
nah, thats pure luck
i have bad ones, and sometime good one
the rolls are based on the type of captain you get, then purely random on the stats
level just impacts the type of captain
He's mentioned before allowing players to just reset a character if they get locked out
hopefully reset quests too^^
I kean tbf it wouldn't even take that long to get back like maybe 3-4 days per character
maybe even fixing royal wurm quest for vman
since he cant finish ALL w4 quests
class change is one of the quests which he cant do at the npc
or does he only count number of quests done in w4?
Probably bout time i evenly split these all rather than hoarding them all on 2 chars
Nah, hoard on bubo 
useless on half the classes..
If then that should be gold hampters
just hoard em in storage like me
should i click le brain tools above 800?
i think its lv 1200 for 95% right?
or 1300?
Gstacking them ? ahaha
Iโm like maybe 10% of the way to g stack 
I have like most the eldritch, hampters largely useless
is it accurate to say that you should eventually fully max out the refinery?
1330 
So is % stats on everyone though. You only really need them on your active character and maybe a bit on a gmushing SB
Contract. I believe you shared a Screenshot today or yesterday showing your total amount of Gold Kebabs or Gold Cheese. Was that on IT?
I only see my current amount in Chest. Not including anything on my Chars
Stats go up. What other food would i use 
When w6 comes out and i be pushing with all chars the extra stats will be nice
tools, item browser on IT
I was peeking at IE and saw Contract has 150k kebabs on 1 character
Correct
Oh dang. That's fancy functionality
It can be a little weird at times. Its saying my bubo has 3k grilled cheese because thats what he has in his bags from loot
When he also has 1.6m equipped
3.3m w5 gold sammys for me 
nah that would be to much effort, only have a couple million iirc
Ah, yeah I see what you are saying
I think I have 10k or 100k on all characters equipped
Splitting them in 10ks now just seems like a waste becuase you havnt gotten far enough to get to properly diminishing values imo.
Moving them around can be way more beneficial, Your bubo would have a nice time, your sb doing gmush, and temporarily your BM while placing new traps type stuff.
Its not just about making stats go up its about making them go up where they matter
Some random character afk farming stuff gets next to no value from those stats
Bubo gets value
May not even get the next mk/tier making it 100% useless.
Youre better off leaving the food slot empty on that character than taking the stat food away from bubo
7/10 chars fully booked, sadly no way im able to finish all 10 by w6
What does bubo need stat food for..?
It gives more money from the money per stat bubbles as well as a bit of DR
Dont worry in 18 days you'll have 0/10 chars fully booked
Im getting 250-300k and i have all bubbles thru i think w7 i dont see how the extra sammiches will make it that much better
Ah right I forgot about the bubble
Am i the only person hoarding books?
i hope he keeps going with the extending talents past the max rather than raising book level
im also hoarding books, but thats cus im lazy
Yeh that would be way cleaner, redoing books is just too tedious
I'm guessing he'll go a bit higher if he wants vman talent to affect other new classes
Yeah book levels will always be better because of vman as well as symbols
would 4 seconds reduction on bubo be able to use 2 CC at the same time?
or not even close?
i would guess no
Probably not but very close to it? based on current up/down time
It might happen. At the very least it would definitely be close

Although with a 400 tente we would also have a +2-3 sized aura, helping stuff xD
It also implies another 80 levels in the CC talent itself
lagg is allways gonna slow bubo down if lava dosent do anything
80 talent/book levels 
Mora aura means more lag
git gudder pc 
True true
Just more CC/tent will get us to nearly 100% CC uptime. If bigger auras end up causing lag we could just not level the talent more
when comparing desync between my laptop and pc, curious how it will be with my new pc this weekend ๐
yeah, what i ment is its 100% good enough for it to be no lagg
16 bit graphics is killing my pc 
Not maxing talents feels wrong though
We've done it all of W5 with orb lol
100% feels wrong, dk orb needs to be fixed..
same
its easy to max when you cant reach orb lvl 267+ anyway^^
How many points are you supposed to put in orb again?
REMINDER:
Check Equinox
Check Island Expedition (crystal) on your newbie alt
Out of curiosity, for orb, would it be better to have it at like 271 or just push it all the way? Mine has slowly been going up through div and big p levels, now itโs at 271 and I donโt feel like resetting talents 
267 with full PO
With PO box you either want to stay on 267 Orb talent lvl (or once you can, to 310+)
But better off removing Mana PO if you can hit a 300 Orb talent lvl
Wdym "full PO"? Is there a box I have to max?
Oh, ok
but it's better without that on dk
said full cz i wasnt sure if it was just the mana one lol

Alright lol. Thanks.
with 321 orb tho, still avoid mana box? right?
Believe so, think speculation was next breakpoint would be at like 340ish or something?
Contract or Scoli probably know more
Huh does it recast the orb refreshing the stacks?
yes, twice. once when new orb spawns and once when old orb despawns.
Do you have slug?
So having overlap can be pretty bad as it wastes time on both orbs
main problem even with the "big" orb numbers is that the orb resets twice - when you place the new one and when it runs out
Thats sadge. Ignoring mana box on DK is pretty usefull info
or just dont max orb
Can you theoretically stack 2 orbs at once and err... multiplicatively increase drops? Or it just takes the highest?
Nope
or just dont play dk 
The BOTH fall to 0 when the overlap happens
and then they BOTH reset to 0 when the first duration ends
I just wish dk orb talent was retweaked that it just replaces orbs when time is less than X seconds type thing
321 is good enough to just max now tbh. 340 is the number on paper just based purely on orb duration alone but that doesnt account for more ability use with mana box. I'm currently full maxed and its about equal in the worst cases and slightly better in some

dont think i re-maxed my po
Imagine all those refinery cycles you're missing 
Plus none of it will matter if we get new talent points in W6
Uh can someone explain shiny breeding pets to me? You just get one and get the bonus, or it should be in the breeding area? Or it should be... leveled up in breeding area and then keep giving the bonus or how do they work?
but also havnt properly played besides 99% afk stuff since xmas, since pc was ๐ฉ
get shiny, place in fenceyard to lvl up their lvl which increases the buff
I need to level my w6 shiny pets 
2x in fence = 2x the xp speed. etc.
Past this current breakpoint we're reaching every single talent point we get is a net increase to time regardless of mana box or the double reset. Its pure gains going forward
The time to max is now 
Good morning everyone ๐
I actually have so many pets at level 0 still actually 
Same
Okay then i got it mostly right. I imagine lvls goes infinitely and drops off hard?
I can live without my class exp and line width pets lol
what level of your def pets?
like 2x the time per level, most people stop at lvl 5 then move on

Also get the shiny rate speed pets first
Thanks for the info.
i always put them to 449 days
and when they need 900+ days i switch pets
Kinda preference but i like doing stuff as in 3x 9 so they all level the same and hit lvl 5 the same time type of thing,
Active BM can help boost some early levels too btw.
I probably need to run a few w4 colos for eggs, maybe.
That would sound... eggcelent. (plz dont kill me)
@fast grail mb, there's no def shiny pet 
Just got shinies, and cleared every single pet battle right now despite only having 15k power pets.
So i dont really need new pets, but i probably do need some shinies.
@paper sail Carpenter is being hit by nblb finally ๐
i used today and yesterday click to level up all bubble above like 204
to make sure i can hit the bubble 1-3 days minimum
oh yeah, i might even 50 colo ticket farm, get alchemy done, and then use some golden watches
Aw, the ๐คญ made me sad. I thought Hachin was back
as lava said t here's not a lot of daily stuff in W6
Same
Gz!
once u have the meta setup stuff you should be able to clear all the spices with around 10k power.
We are getting new spices with w6 so may be worth holding onto some of the meta stuff incase nothing changes.
Definetely go for shiny, typically as said shiny speed (gmush/plank/the blue potatoe thing, quenchie) and most ppl follow it with infninite starsigns.
Also worth with w6 release may be the Meal bonus effect ones.
Honestly i'm tempted to go for starsigns as i hate them with a passion, doing prints regulary.
But i probably can get more value out of something else.
yes but either way one should go for shiny rate (its the speed) first*

If you have starsign doubler it will still be the same 
So faster shiny xp/levels for all the stuff
It only doubles the ones you-re linked to
Bruh.
almost done with bob pickle joe vial too
but u still get the passive on the not owned ones..
But no i dont have one yet
To be fair, even if there was shiny pets, they would have to be %defense to be useful, base defense is Garbo
Is it worth going after eclipse skull in W1? I have about 11 million kph total with all characters on green mushrooms. So that would be about 250m kills per day.
that is decent to start yeah
11m kph is already huge, yes
thats about where i started finishing mine, after the easy high kph map
May be worth starting frogs then gmush
A lot of people start back down at 1-2m kph. I recommend 4m kph minimum
Go from highest kph to lowest in zones, so you get the dmg and mk/tier bfuf that helps with the other zones.
Also be sure to actually get the 5mil dn's everywhere first
forgot if there was a 100m dn?
100ms
Lava Skull is 100m, then Super CHOW with BB for 200m total, then candy/afk the rest of the 800m to Eclipse
How do I update the auto review? I've refreshed the page 5 times now and it still says that the last data update was 67 days ago.
Yeh so 5mil dn everywhere, then 100mil dn everywhere then 1bils'
Always starting from highest kph zone to lowest.
So you reckon it's better to get 100m on all areas first
also, do the easiest map first, then the hardest one
like i did lampar in W5 last because... spawnrate is sht
you gotta update your profile on IE first
Oh, ok. Thanks.
Scoli, in your autoreview you might wanna note people who has carpenter under X lvl for Atomization (so they can check to try and have it hit)
as long as it is in like the 10 first lowest bubble it will be hit
Iโll keep my carpenter low 
whyu
I'm boosting d chef atm
1047, going to get close to the 3.3k by w6 but sadly wont hit it :/
Just get superbit 
Actually curious, anyone know 90% for bit by bit? 
going to do some garden, i have my dk on skilling right now for the gaming bit bonus
and have snail 23
I would be going for whatever value this is if I wasnโt full focused on FMJ 
630
before last superbit on the way
1330 for 95%
guess i could do 2.5 days of bit by bit quickly
I've been spending particle clicks on Startue Exp
Going for 95%
FMJ is eternal 
i did too a lil bit scoli haha
Everyone is sitting on like 50m statues
no nvm i lied
I just wanted to push diamond chef for the w6 meals
i just printed for it
Why not get PEAK value
but like, later on ^p
Startue exp is lit. Mine is 96%
Because this is not Clash ๐ฎ
Thinking about doing more too lol
Current lvl*? forgot you cant use # xD
That and my Shimmeron needs work before new samples 
boosting nickel of wisdom/gospel leader/ le brain tool/call me ash
Clicking power
I chose 96 instead of 95 because thats when it reaches an even 24% on the bubble
i hate uneven number. so i'll go for 96

I'm at 1048 right now. 1440 seems reasonable. 4 more days of clicks
Still gives me.. what, 12 more days after that?
12 days of shimmeron 
i actually would need to put my guys into cauldron to get W6 bubbles ready
i miss a few ones
16 days for 200GS. i can do it
unless you plan to get 20k (onyx) the new statues in day 1 there is more time ๐
16 for 11GS
ur gonna get 20+ greenstacks day 1 of w6
i mean yeah but i wanna reach my goal of 200 GS before W6
And I cant imagine new skilling resources will be hard to gstack either
that was the last goal i had to do before full gmush xD
Tried atoming shimmeron a while back, back at like 3k FMJ and I was getting more defense per level on FMJ, I wonder now at almost 11k FMJ If shimmeron is worth it for a bit 
Do it for the peanuts 
My shimmeron is only at like 270
whats this one
Gold food effect %

