lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[stiff swan]

Trying to farm statues at beans. I have most of the cards, Crystals 4 days special skill, choco chip. What else can I do to increase crystal spawn rate

I’m at 1 in 149 rn

[signal osprey]

Well theres only 2 cards so most makes it seem like 1 is missing

And missing even just 1 is definitely your issue

[rapid shale]

prob no doublers either

[stiff swan]

I have lvl 4 crystal carrot and lvl 2 genie

[signal osprey]

Crystal carrot is a DR card

[stiff swan]

Was going based off @dapper prism guide pinned in w4 channel

[signal osprey]

You need the poop card too for crystal chance

[stiff swan]

My bad meant poop

Lvl 4 poop

[crude zephyr]

does royal sampler and skilled dimwit effect construction EXP?

[stiff swan]

What are doublers

[rapid shale]

lab chips that double top left and bottom right cards

[stiff swan]

Oh didn’t know that existed. Nah don’t have it

Just got Choco chip from the rotation a couple weeks ago

Is 1 in 149 crystal chance worth it to active afk at beans

[rapid shale]

no doublers in rotation for next couple months so may have to gamba

[signal osprey]

Youd be a lot better off taking the time to level your genie card and coming back to beans with maxed cards

[stiff swan]

Ok thanks. So genie card, maybe will gamba chips. Anything else?

[signal osprey]

Other than that its leveling your stamp and shrine

[stiff swan]

Ah thanks

[urban pond]

whats the best way to farm glass shards?

[rapid shale]

ES for efficiency, DK for statue gains as well

[urban pond]

thanks ❤️

upgrade when?

[stiff swan]

Should I active afk or just afk at genies for max card gain? 11k kph

[jade folio]

why so low?

[stiff swan]

Great question, I’ve been thinking I’ve been doing something terribly wrong for like months

At lvl 271, 26m dmg on DK

[jade folio]

Maybe run your account through the auto reviewer, or here to get some feed back on how to progress, but do you have any prayers equipped that increase the health of the mobs? like the exp or drop ones?

[stiff swan]

Oh I had the one that increases kills for deathnote decreases dmg

Still only up to 12.7k

What is the auto reviewer

[rapid shale]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

[stiff swan]

if I put my account here I’m gonna get ripped on

[fading plover]

we all have to face the wrath of auto review at one time or another

[stiff swan]

How do I make autoreviewer update from the last time I checked it in October

[rapid shale]

go to idleon efficiency and upload your public profile

[stiff swan]

Thanks

[cerulean hemlock]

Gday again

[faint jacinth]

qq: unlocking the last type of plant is absurdly in the late game of stuff, or I am doing something wrong?

[jade folio]

Gamba paid off, i finally have a full set of silk + omega with some spares to go around

[heady plover]

Stupid question: if nugget is 2000x, to double current base Would it need to be 4000x?

[rapid shale]

i just want the trophy doubler

[jade folio]

Its just hard, its recommended to just do the research after every few plants even if the odds are like .01%

[faint jacinth]

Thanks for the info

[jade folio]

Sorry, i only get the one, cant share it with you

[rapid shale]

😦 My IS trophy needs it

[jade folio]

trade me the IS trophy and ill trade you the doubler?

[rapid shale]

hmmmmm

[stiff swan]

Is there a reason my autoreviewr doesn’t show anything for w5

It gives a bunch of notes for w1-4

[rapid shale]

WIP

[stiff swan]

Thx

Very overwhelming amount of info on there lol

[cerulean hemlock]

#1183482341474172938 This may assist you

[slate vector]

So I might have been slacking on my prints...

lol

oh wait I can get it higher, need to make a new axe, still using gold

[potent lily]

Now we wait 100 hours

[cerulean hemlock]

First level 7 vial 🥳

[snow light]

is that with all 10 toons or at least a couple besides the 1?

[exotic juniper]

I was similar went from 27m to 200m lol

[dusty sandal]

whats peoples artifact chance for finding like the last 8 eldritch just making sure im not missing anything before i use my bottled winds. Im getting .05%

[slate vector]

How long does it take to get resource cards compared to monster cards?

Wondering if it is something worth focusing right now

[outer oar]

they are not that bad

[slate vector]

Been chopping this oak tree for a few minutes and no dice on any cards

[outer oar]

i candied for cards odds said 1 in 1 hour and i would get like 45 from 1 hr candy

[heady pagoda]

How to improve afk gains n mob res?

[potent lily]

Only 1 in rift

[potent lily]

What do i get for rift 31?

[south vault]

you dont get cards on active skilling. only afk

[slate vector]

@south vault really? that is good to know

Thanks

updated prints 🙂

[snow light]

eldritch artifacts

[potent lily]

I want the viel mastery

[snow light]

that is 36

[potent lily]

I made like 5 or 6 maxed ones

[snow light]

so that is 1.1x or 1.12x total bonuses i suggest trying to get all the skilling ones before you get to vial mastery cause they are relatively easy to get

logs ore bugs fish

[outer oar]

I finally got my first lucky lad

[snow light]

1 down 75 more to go

[outer oar]

yup now gotta get one on my vman

[potent lily]

Im going for the void ore and maple logs rn

Like im in lab rn so i need the maple logs for the div exp

And void ore is just free eff i guess

[snow light]

dont forget the other efficency boost vials like snowmosquitos and tundra logs try printing out mamooth mats too to get some fishing eff

[jade folio]

Guess i should also get back into trying to grind off a few vials as well

[potent lily]

Tundra maxed alredy

[snow light]

you arent as far behind as you think

[jade folio]

I envy your arcade vial

[snow light]

while i have arcade you can see many of them are not "high"

[prisma drift]

I need to just swap to 20 minute traps

Finish off the last of these vials before w6 hits

[jade folio]

Whats your multibonus sitting at Gozu?

[snow light]

from maxed vials?

[jade folio]

yeap

[snow light]

22 total so 1.44x

[potent lily]

My viles looks sad lol

[snow light]

that is just printing "easy" resources

[snow light]

what are your prints honestly i would be surprised if you were printing more than 10m an hour and if you are at least printing 10m an hour i suggest going back and trying to get that alchemy up till then to start maxing vials cause vial mastery is nice and very VERY good but only having 5-6 max vials isnt really worth it

[potent lily]

Mh best print is 1.5m copper

[snow light]

at least rushing into vial mastery isnt worth it with the bonus you are currently getting i got vial mastery around 13-15 max vials and that was just from most of the resources and a couple other ones here and there from Vman prints

[potent lily]

Not looking too good here

[snow light]

me personally i would go back and look at my alchemy and see what i can improve with my current prints and bounce back to resampling go in a cyclical cycle of

1. swap to sample resources
2. upgrade sample bubbles
3. resample after upgrading sample bubbles for about a week or two
4. repeat

[slate vector]

What's the recommended approach for getting Chizoar scarfs?

[vital wave]

U got doot wtm not looking good

[slate vector]

Normal mode?

[vital wave]

[pearl cedar]

Normal is best rates, chaotic is a nice medium though.

[snow light]

he meant print size i told him to go and up his prints sample size

[pseudo blaze]

did u look at drop table

[slate vector]

nope

[pseudo blaze]

ok

[slate vector]

ok

[pseudo blaze]

ok

[pearl cedar]

What does doot have to do with your samples?

[snow light]

doot gives 6x sample output

[slate vector]

Doesn't that unlock the god to make your samples x6?

[pseudo blaze]

he’s saying lower samples arent as bad cuz 6x

[pearl cedar]

I know what doot does. But doot aint gonna help those samples

[snow light]

im not trying to say it in a condescending way btw i just want him to be able to get his samples up more especially if he is dooted

[pseudo blaze]

so? he has 3x more than normal anyways

[slate vector]

If I have a 18m oak log sample, can I turn on my atom machine or not yet?

[pseudo blaze]

y

u dont need to turn it on

[snow light]

most people leave it off at 1050

[pseudo blaze]

auto atom at 1050

[pearl cedar]

Leave collider off

[slate vector]

so this?

[pearl cedar]

It will automatically convert anything over 1050m regardless if it is on or not

[pseudo blaze]

how do u have 18m sample and not a single atom

[pearl cedar]

Yeah. Dont turn it on. Turning it on means if you misclick the 1050m it goes to 10m or whatever and you lose everything over that

[zinc torrent]

Hey idleoners, how'd you think, should i waste all my candy to rush w5
I just understand that i won't be able to finish it before w6 launch, but i kinda want too

[slate vector]

well its 4m but I multiplied it by 6

[slate vector]

cant use candy in w5

[pearl cedar]

That's 24m

[slate vector]

im not math man

[pearl cedar]

Lol

[slate vector]

lol

[pseudo blaze]

thats 24

[slate vector]

I GET IT

[potent lily]

Got it not long ago

[pseudo blaze]

Lol

[zinc torrent]

Oh, Right... Damn that sucks

[pearl cedar]

Obviously. You're a baby

[slate vector]

@pseudo blaze but to answer your question, I literally just got that sample

[pseudo blaze]

ic

[slate vector]

so I guess I will start getting some atoms soon 🙂

[pseudo blaze]

what was it before?

[slate vector]

33k

[pseudo blaze]

10logs/hour?

gad damn

[slate vector]

went from 33k -> 3.9m

[sick sentinel]

when w6 releases you will be able to candy w5 tho, its usually recommended to do so to start the skills there then backtrack and work on other worlds

[cerulean hemlock]

Yep, I'm trying to get as far as I can without touching the fire spirits map

[dapper prism]

can soon when w6 comes out

[pearl cedar]

Your best bet is it to put everyone on div/lab and just DK or bubo the maps and hope you can get somewhat far enough along before w6 drops

[dapper prism]

sorry was scrolled up

bubo would be easy (fastest) to push through w5.

[short sparrow]

I've been pushing w5 with DK and it's not too bad

[slate vector]

Active pushing better yeah?

[outer oar]

i pushed with vman...

[dapper prism]

Yes, way better

[dapper prism]

Yeh bubo fastest, dk is good if struggling with survivability. just also need the acc.

[short sparrow]

My bubo is very under leveled

I guess I could switch him to arctis and start getting exp

[chrome tiger]

this right for bubo frogs?

[cerulean hemlock]

Remove canisters if needed.
Revive, then gas, then aura, then CC

[runic token]

Holy smokes, I did it! Idle skiller trophy for the slab!

[rough wasp]

you can try fart cloud before aura but it has enough coverage

[cerulean hemlock]

Huh. CC is first?

[rough wasp]

always has been

[cerulean hemlock]

Some people put it in last though

Huh.

That's my bad then

Noted.

Anyways, gn ❤️

[snow light]

i wonder what the DR is gonna be once we get W6 dropped

i speculate probably 35x

[sterile bison]

Has there been any indication we’re getting more characters for w6?

[dapper prism]

no indication

[vital wave]

11 char?

there is tho

[dapper prism]

Would be weird to release 11th slot without having a new spec relevant to w6

[potent lily]

Just doing the rift that i know ill need to do later

[signal osprey]

There will be new elites in W6 though that was confirmed too

[snow light]

all good i am rushing construction mastery myself

[short sparrow]

Where was that confirmed?

[dapper prism]

well yeh, guess it depends how the question is interpreted, i thought they mean it was in with the w6 release

[dapper prism]

roadmaps in some ways ~

oh wait

that was w7+8 ?

[short sparrow]

The roadmap I saw listed elites with 7 and 8

[sick sentinel]

lava confirmed classes later in w6

[dapper prism]

yup

#idleon-gen-chat message

[short sparrow]

Considering he hasn't said anything about it in the future blog it probably won't be with initial w6 release regardless

[dapper prism]

Lava confirming w6 -> elite -> w7 *

[signal osprey]

It definitely wont be in the release

[dapper prism]

just writing the order

[knotty helm]

Is there some trick to sailing artifacts or am I just giga unlucky

[outer oar]

probably as unlucky as i am

[dapper prism]

Stick to island 1 to get tusk,
Then there's a bunch of variables

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

Some sailing stuff

[knotty helm]

I have ancient tusk

I have just been trying for days to get the Fungi Meadows relic

The really important one

[signal osprey]

How often do you check your sailing

[dapper prism]

Also spreading stuff like gold hampters, having a tiger, maybe running some omni, can all help

[knotty helm]

Doesnt really matter as I never hit cap. My boats take a while to get there sadly. BUt I dont think you can reasonably have 300000m Speed when you unlock that island

[knotty helm]

What is a tiger or omni

[dapper prism]

Divinity gods

[knotty helm]

Havent hit those either yet lol

[dapper prism]

are you sending all boats there to that far island?

[outer oar]

woot finally got triagulon

[signal osprey]

Well how many times are you able to claim them in a day at their current speed

[dapper prism]

and checking captains daily for upgrades?

[signal osprey]

Because if we're talking 12 hour trips or something then first of all youre not unlucky at all thats just normal

[knotty helm]

Yes all to the far island

so I dont lose any of the good chest

[signal osprey]

And second you need to leave that island and farm early islands for mats to upgrade boats

[dapper prism]

Yeh, also NEVER send all the boats to 1 island like that..

Especially if you say you dont even hit chest cap... which you usually will always hit within ~4h-6h

Since your slowest boats will always be drasticlly slower, it would be very inefficient to have them go to deep islands.

[knotty helm]

Its really hard to Tell which boat is which

[dapper prism]

go to the first tab, enable their values

[knotty helm]

Considering the game doesnt note what number they are in the upgrades menu

[dapper prism]

Click the charter map

Show identity

[knotty helm]

What number are these boats

[dapper prism]

and also, boats in crew are just in order.. 1, 2, 3.. but still do what i just said.

Click MAP at the top, show identity..

[knotty helm]

WAIT WHAT

WHY

WHY WOULD THAT EVEN BE A TOGGLE FOR THAT PAGE

WTF

[dapper prism]

yes, and why would it not just show boat number, letter and time all at once at all times.

[knotty helm]

I assumed that only effected the map

[dapper prism]

Easier and better ways to make this ui, also it disables every time u close the ui i think

[jade folio]

Because sailing has a bad UI overall? Or am i the only one who hates it?

[dapper prism]

its terrible

i also see too many people not noticing the scroll wheel for more boat ships

[knotty helm]

So whats the minimum speed you would use on that far island?

[signal osprey]

Its wonderful compared to what it was on release

I know its hard to imagine but it was worse lol

[dapper prism]

I need to find a vid of that.. never seen the old one

[signal osprey]

The worst part was swapping captains

You couldnt hit trash to automatically bring the boat back

[dapper prism]

oh but that was a more "recent" update

i still hate that there's 20 boats but only like 14?ish slots on the pier..

[signal osprey]

And a great one too. Redoing half your boats to fix one captain was so sad

[lapis elm]

Sailing UI rework soon

[finite lake]

What's the strat for sailing once you're closer to finishing unlocking the islands? I've got two more islands to go, but not sure how to divide boats up

[dapper prism]

always fastest boats to furthest island within small time range (preferably within 2-3h type stuff) meanwhile slower/slowest boats cleanup the lowi artifacts

Else you bottleneck yourself and end up with no low artifacts and half your boats become semi-useless if you do all ancients from low to higher without splitting boats.

[finite lake]

Makes sense, thank you!

[raven fog]

How many seconds do yall get per crimum run and how fast is ur waters

I al trying to see how good my bubbo is

[potent lily]

I only get like 7.5k sec

[raven fog]

Wow

[keen trellis]

I get like 312k with I believe 32 liquid 1 an hour

[raven fog]

Bubbo enjoyer

[keen trellis]

Yes

[tacit tulip]

Ithink like 350k with 64 an hour? Takes me about 30 mins active to refill my water

[raven fog]

I get 360k plus and 67 water

But i want more

[keen trellis]

Did you all juice your drip stamp?

Mine is like 90

[raven fog]

Oh totally forgot

What eöse is there to juice

Ibwant my bubbo flying

[keen trellis]

You’re welcome

[outer oar]

is the lab bonus for more liquid worth it or keep it off?

[keen trellis]

Use it if active bubo

[potent lily]

Do i go and upgrade my stumps?

[raven fog]

Off unless lazy

[keen trellis]

Unless your salt lick isn’t maxed that’s pretty much it

[pale jay]

I fill up the higher number so it lasts longer when not on bubo

[keen trellis]

I think there may be an arcade upgrade too

[raven fog]

Yah ig i also haven’t seen anyone get more than 360k second around that

[keen trellis]

Can’t remember if it’s speed or cap

[raven fog]

So all am missing is upgrading the water itself

[keen trellis]

Once you’re in the 300k+ range to get more time you need more crystals or more big bubble levels

Or talent levels but 245 with over levels is about all we get for now

I’m actually at 220 max so I believe 312k cc is pretty good for my crystal chance

[raven fog]

Yap i need to work on that big bubble to become its not at 90 percent yet

Or 95

[keen trellis]

I also don’t have equinox symbols

1100 is 90% I think?

[raven fog]

The ine for water

Id the max bonus is 120

Am at 110

[snow light]

wait GT 90% is just 1100? that is doable in a couple days then if you have decent regen rate

[raven fog]

Its not little 1100 is one of the high ones

[patent hatch]

GT keeps scaling lol

He means Laaaaarrrryyy or whatever

[barren otter]

think he means cookin roadkill

since they're talking about CC avgs

[raven fog]

Oh i thought u meant something else GT is linear

[raven fog]

Yap

[keen trellis]

I was talking about roadkill @ 1100

GT is linear

[snow light]

what is a good level to stop leveling divinity? obviously skill mastery 1000 but per character cause it raises the bonus and of course god bonus bubble as well is good to level

[fading plover]

just throw on tranqi, never stop

[snow light]

well yeah but i was looking to get all the gods as well after "powering" to badgur

maybe shoot for a god rank or two

[potent lily]

Do i wait for it or buy normal upgrades?

[barren otter]

yea don't stop at 90% for that

[snow light]

its meh i would say if you can get it in the next day then it is worth and if you are good at pong and wanna wait for a while then it is good

[fading plover]

i agree, but it's a tough laggy game of pong

[snow light]

go play in the mines

little to no npcs there to render

[potent lily]

In like 3 4 days i can get it
But if i get the artifect for bits in sailing then i can get it tomrow

[fading plover]

prolly not gonna beat my current score any time soon, i think it's average enough

[snow light]

im just looking for achievement and that is all

[fading plover]

getting that high seems crazy

i got 16k and that was good enough lol

[snow light]

4.3k i havent sat down and played played for a min

[snow light]

eh it really ends up on you i would just say to hold off on getting it level other things and then go for it when you can get it in a day or two instead of waiting a while for it the bonus it gives is "underwhelming" to say the least you get WAY better and more multipliers from other exports

[potent lily]

K ill upgrade normal things

[keen trellis]

My pong is like 2.9k I think lol

[potent lily]

On what% do i try to get my next plant?

[snow light]

.1%

better chances at .1-.01% chance than 1%

for the last plants it is quantity of tries over quality of tries

[opal kernel]

how long did it take you to get berri bush?I've been trying to get it every 5% chance but havent had any luck.

[potent lily]

Got it on like a 10%

[outer oar]

omg still havent gotten that dumb dice trophy just rolled a 2 then a 3

[potent lily]

Oof

[rugged token]

equip it on bubo when you get 200 tenteyecle and leave it overnight and log back in to 1 is what i did

[autumn hollow]

Why does it seem like the combine obol odds, is way less than the shown percentage. I've just failed on a platinum combine (32 frags), over 30 times, at a so called 14% chance

[dire bobcat]

omg finally everyone is 60 divinity now to really start grinding divinity points

[potent lily]

3 to go
8 lvls

[snow light]

thanks for reminding me i have to do it

[patent hatch]

I think my total divinity level is 1400 or so

Trying rocket all to 150

For the sweet max bonus

[true obsidian]

can't wait for 3rd Dragonic

[snow light]

oh max bonus is 150 cool

[haughty flower]

Chizor helm is bis for early w5 right?

[snow light]

all my other characters besides like 2 use chizoar equips

slowly changing that but it is taking a long time mostly nullo salts and i am getting to the point of not needing them anymore

[haughty flower]

what are they wearing instead?

troll?

[snow light]

magma and kruk respectively

[haughty flower]

wew lad

[snow light]

changing that soon of course troll is literally my limiting factor of my gear cause the nullo salts and the cooking shoes and the golden twine

[haughty flower]

i have so far to go :p im still bottlenecked waiting for my towers to be strong enough for rollin tundra

[snow light]

what is your board set up for construction is it all unlocked and full of exp for DK?

[haughty flower]

im not even to ultimate cogs yet

still ahve most of the outer ring to complete

is there a website or tool that can help me optimize my board?

[true obsidian]

lol, you really need more crit chance...

[snow light]

much of the suggestions i can throw your way will just be rehashing the doc so just take the doc instead

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[snow light]

the Vman is a skilling setup i just swaped the equips out and yes i am so close to that 200%

[fading plover]

https://monoblos.github.io/cogtimizer/

[haughty flower]

this is so incredibly based omg

[true obsidian]

also if you have "enough" stats, magma will give better dmg

[snow light]

i dont have enough stats sadly not even breaking into 5 digits with any of them

[true obsidian]

yeah..don't worry about that, you need very big number for magma > kruk

i also not get 5 digits too, but close

[snow light]

is there a breaking point? only thing i know is kruk helm and boots all the time for DK for statue farming cause that DR+ is the best for those slots

[true obsidian]

yeah, for active you only need helmet and boots

afk you just use full kruk set

for skill you use skill boots and 3 magma pieces

[snow light]

yeah eventually sadly right now i made kruk set for Vman cause his stats aren't up there just yet and I wanna at least get to magma for everyone else but just time gated stuff refinery always running out of mats lol

[true obsidian]

everything gonna be ok, i just finished 10/10 trap and skull and still have 72k nulo left

[snow light]

mostly salts 😭

[snow light]

one day my account wont be as neglected anymore and i will be able to catch up

[true obsidian]

i usually turn off nulo for a while, maybe 50~100k+ pink salt, then i turn on it

[snow light]

maybe ill do that then i know the new meta is to rank up as much as possible

[true obsidian]

that not work with nulo...

[snow light]

ah...

[true obsidian]

technically it work, but at very high rank green and pink

[snow light]

so perma rank the first 2 and balance rank the last 4

[true obsidian]

and rank diff between pink and nulo usually 2 pink = 1 nulo

you have rank 6 nulo, need rank 12 pink

[true obsidian]

you can perma 1 page and green salt

2 page have different cycle

[snow light]

i unbalanced everything for the equinox and then i got doot so yeah...

i guess it is time to balance everything out again

[true obsidian]

wish i have doot too

never lucky :<

[snow light]

im gonna be real it is an aspect of all the gods but i feel it is really elephant god that carries doot players of course it is also an aspect of 6x prints as well

[lapis elm]

Omni is busted, but people can't justify using it because the opportunity cost of losing arctis/goat/etc...

[burnt halo]

how much damage on vman yall think its decent to kill nightmare kruk?

[lapis elm]

That's what makes doot doot

[burnt halo]

without having to be there for hours

[true obsidian]

30% afk is huge, also nobisect for x2 deathnote really big meaning

[lapis elm]

You don't have to compromise

[snow light]

50BT in inventory took trickz like 45 mins i think

[unkempt quest]

Just rank them all up

[burnt halo]

damn, i have like 3b atm gonna take me a while

[snow light]

50T my bad

[burnt halo]

WHAT

[true obsidian]

i done it with 750 i think, vman really a heavy hitter. It not take long, you just need to click fast

[burnt halo]

nah cause why is this char so shit lmao

i have 500b on sb

[burnt halo]

yeah imma forget bout that for a while lol

[lapis elm]

I did it around 50bil and it was tedious, but fine. I'm sure you can get a lot closer than you think just moving around chips, cards, upgrading gear, etc...

[snow light]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

he had 85B took him 12-15 mins

[true obsidian]

how to get big damage?

[burnt halo]

yeah i cant atom that yet

waiting for NBNL to do its thing

its on 70m atm

[snow light]

this is how to get more dmg achkually

[burnt halo]

seems doable

my vman has like no gear

[true obsidian]

use ES...

[burnt halo]

i have other stuff to atom first

its not a priority atm

[true obsidian]

with ES, you can have 1050M in few hours

[burnt halo]

bob is only like 1k and i need to get the second buble on the first three on 2.91

[burnt halo]

i dont have that much multikill lol

[lapis elm]

Not meme slamming QS for meme damage? What is this shit

[true obsidian]

this is where you stop

[snow light]

soon ill get there

[lapis elm]

At least get it to 101%

Pleeeease

[snow light]

cant even use all 30 of my atoms on larrry yet

8 whole more atoms to use

[true obsidian]

please don't judge my stamps

[burnt halo]

u will be able to hourly larry later 100% is fine for now

(imo)

[snow light]

a peek into godhood

[snow light]

true 100% is like 501 if i remember correctly

[burnt halo]

how do u have 4.2k wis bubble

[true obsidian]

nope, i still a mid-game player(not even in late-mid game stage)

[burnt halo]

and like 1285 on the other 2

[lapis elm]

We're all midgame players

[snow light]

ah just like contract lol

[true obsidian]

hours click and tons of atom

[burnt halo]

i just finished the tutorial

[burnt halo]

u used atom on stat buble?..

[lapis elm]

I thought doot was the tutorial

[burnt halo]

i get hourly but like the 3 normally are close to the same level ig

[true obsidian]

well..yeah?

[burnt halo]

sure ig

[true obsidian]

but that in the past

when i still young and green

[burnt halo]

fair fair

[lapis elm]

Candy your stat bubbles

[burnt halo]

get me to that 1b sample first

[snow light]

im not doing that just yet actually i wanna get a few more sigils mostly the DR one to max first then i will bubo time until the end times

[burnt halo]

i probally can get 1b hour atm its been a long time since last resample

im waiting to get kruk scarf

[lapis elm]

I'm sure we'll get a pretty gross boost when W6 drops

1bil shouldn't be too bad

[true obsidian]

hehe

[snow light]

current prints after i get larry up to 501 i was gonna hard push the skilling bubbles (starting with logs)

[true obsidian]

still can't atom it

need more

[lapis elm]

Surely 100mil liquid will let us

[snow light]

get to 25000

[true obsidian]

i'll stop at 20k

[lapis elm]

I stopped at 13k but I might push a little depending on how exp looks in w6

[true obsidian]

then i go for lv500 everybody

[snow light]

i was probably gonna stop at 2000 when i get mine up then focus other bubbles but this is kinda sitting at the bottom of the barrel cause i wanna get to 1b prints per hour first

[burnt halo]

when u play bubo it goes up

[lapis elm]

I spy trouble in your 500 goal future

[burnt halo]

like

fast.

[true obsidian]

hehe bois

[lapis elm]

Once you start degening on bubo, hitting 4-5k is absolutely free

It becomes tedious after that for a bit

Until you degen hard enough and your liquid catches up

[true obsidian]

you need 4~6 for 1 lv when you 400+

[snow light]

i mean i think i get decent CC time on wurms

lemme go check real quick

[lapis elm]

You've maxed liquidvestment right?

[lapis elm]

Yeah it all goes towards BB honestly

[snow light]

not 99% i am missing the last upgrade for it

[lapis elm]

That's the only toon I had trouble pushing to 500 in reasonable time

[true obsidian]

yeah

tbh, i might change my ES into bubo for lv 500 then change back

hope i don't do that

[paper sail]

Just wait for W6 at this point lol

The equinox bar charge rate isn't going to make an impact

[true obsidian]

oh shiet...i forgot i still have equinox...

how long have it been full...

:<

charge so long when not have 💳 for pack

[potent lily]

Wait wasnt i ment to max the 7th one?

[true obsidian]

wish i have 9,99$

[snow light]

i thought i was only getting 100k every CC turns out im getting almost double that

[potent lily]

Nice

[dapper prism]

Amazing fomo bundle

[snow light]

soon ill have what i need to get these dreams done...

[true obsidian]

uhm, there 3 cloud are easy

[potent lily]

The pets one is easy

[dapper prism]

first one definetely easy..

[true obsidian]

115 wave is the easiest

[dapper prism]

pets technically too if u have the stuff unlocked

[snow light]

i know the cogs is easy i dont have 100k ladles and 115 is a little out of reach because i have no peapod...

im very far away from peapod

[true obsidian]

no need pepod

[haughty flower]

so if i have 2 of an elite class, none of their effects stack right? like div xp, portal kill power, pirate power, etc.

[true obsidian]

i use rattle

[snow light]

even with rattle i only got to ~107 with both my BM arena spirit

i have been trying no luck

[dapper prism]

highest talent counts

[haughty flower]

well im glad i figured that out now and not a month from now :p

[true obsidian]

hamburger, coffee, rattler and loot

[dapper prism]

good to book your 2nd ES/SB/DK for a bunch of those things since those usually get stuck into lab

[cloud shore]

How much ladles should I get an hour before going fir 100k ladles equinox?

[true obsidian]

any, its just time...

[cloud shore]

Ok

[dapper prism]

Nawh, not any

[cloud shore]

I get 1500 a day right now

[dapper prism]

If you're like early and barely getting 100's im sure you have way better priorities to invest that in xD

[cloud shore]

But I'm not sure if I should be increasing my kitchen still

[dapper prism]

1.5k meaning 2.2k+? (po maxed?)

[snow light]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
been trying since the 5th

[cloud shore]

Wdm 2.2k+

I get 1.5k ladles a day

[true obsidian]

how tf you put rattler at 2nd???

[dapper prism]

and theres a po that gives you a chance for double ladles..

[cloud shore]

And have like 17k ladles already

[cloud shore]

Oh ya i forgot about that

[dapper prism]

53% chance for 2x ladle drop from 400 cooking po

[true obsidian]

possition should be loot/rattler, coffee, hamburger

[cloud shore]

I have every po box maxed but myriad

[snow light]

ill try that then

[true obsidian]

possition should be loot/rattler, coffee, hamburger

[cloud shore]

But I calculated it and it will take me like another 50 days. Rip

But might be shorter with 2x ladle chance

[true obsidian]

try to get better burger, other is fine, better loot is good too

[dapper prism]

forgot what it unlocks and the other clouds etc. But always weight your benefit

[cloud shore]

It gives more if the damage thing

[snow light]

burger was the highest at 25k i believe but i will try for higher then

[cloud shore]

If forgot it's name but it's probably good for world 6

I

I

[true obsidian]

well, 25k is good enough, improve rattler and loot, coffee doesn't do anthing

[snow light]

here is to hoping i win friend

[dapper prism]

Dont people usually turn auto off for burger?

[true obsidian]

45k rattler is big

[molten halo]

I try to get enough but it's take time

[dapper prism]

Not sure for this equi lineup

[dapper prism]

You toss your 2x DK's onto the Cog crafting ui

[true obsidian]

you have better team than mine, you should be ok

[molten halo]

I have 25

[snow light]

if i fail this lineup then i will turn auto off (for burger) i already started sadly

[molten halo]

work about it

[molten halo]

no no

I did it yesterday

everything was about on

[dapper prism]

Not saying you cant do it

[snow light]

coffee down do i back out?

[dapper prism]

But by disabling burger you get more refueller procs into chest+bone thingy. more dmg, more abilities etc usually

Allowing for easier stacking

[cloud shore]

How do you get your coffee and other things too not die

[true obsidian]

yes

[cloud shore]

Because my burger always tanks but everything else dies

[molten halo]

use dog

[snow light]

i dont got dog

if i did i wouldnt be in this situation

[cloud shore]

How do you disable the burgers ability ive always seen people do it but don't know how

[dapper prism]

you just click the icon before u start your run

then it shows an X

[cloud shore]

K thanks

[raven fog]

Guys does the thibg in equinox island split water 50-50 for cap and rate

[dapper prism]

yes, once capped, it overflows 50-50 into both

and it goes beyond a single level up.

[raven fog]

If yes that means if i am focusing rate i am. Missing out a lot

[dapper prism]

Not really, if active still manually dump water into Regen

[raven fog]

Whats ur water per hour and ur secs per crumium run

[dapper prism]

If you're gone from keyboard, at least youre not stuck at cap gaining 0.

Not at pc atm

[snow light]

unlucky...

[raven fog]

Yah but u i get 380k do u get way more

As ur later in the game

[dapper prism]

Most people cap around 400-440k

[cloud shore]

Also I keep on hearing people talk about liquid talk qbout max liquid cap but never seen someone at it

[dapper prism]

Last time i did CC's i was getting around 425-430k's

[dapper prism]

? there is no cap on the levels

[cloud shore]

Idk I remember griffy talking about max liquid unless he's talking about something else

[raven fog]

Really what am i doing wrong my big bubble is 90 percent

[cloud shore]

Like the pay to win

[dapper prism]

Sorry no clue what you mean/are refering to.

[dapper prism]

Crystal rate, talent levels, etc. bubble is only a small part of things.

[cloud shore]

I mean that griffy bit was probably talking about the pay to win tab in alchemy

[dapper prism]

oh that and/or just the brew cauldron max caps for their levels like speed etc.

[fallen torrent]

i need friends

[haughty flower]

do you know if there is a way to reset it? i cant seem to find one and it is giving me my board from a few hours ago

[paper sail]

cogtimizer uses your public IE

[haughty flower]

ahhh, so i have to update ie

[paper sail]

If you have made changes, you have to reupload your public profile and wait a bit

[cloud shore]

Also I did the set up and lost at wave level 116

So I barely got it

[paper sail]

Do you mean 90% in the tooltip or 90% overall? Very different. The bubble itself goes to 120% tooltip value.

[vapid warren]

I heard theres weird mobs you can get BB's CHOW/ZOW stacks on. Does IE show anywhere which mobs im missing?

[snow light]

i think IT shows it better

like 2nd poop map the invisible gmush at doot

[vapid warren]

That works too, any chance can you tell me how to get to that page, I cant seem to find it/also new to IT

[hybrid halo]

Account>misc> apocalypse

[snow light]

these are 3 i need to zow still and i think i can get them in a reasonable time maybe chowing them is ok but def not Schow

guess i gotta get a higher coffee before i can make it unless this run can make it off 214 seconds of coffee

[vapid warren]

So from left to right, poops where dr deficus is. Acorns where the acorn assault is?, idk what djonuttown is... or mummy memorial? Maybe the dungeon sand giants.... Idk what equinox is considering i've already done rams.

[snow light]

the mummy for me is doot map mummy and djonuttown should be map where you enter to fight efaunt

[gentle furnace]

For equinox?

[pearl cedar]

Zow/chow/schow are per map not per mob

[snow light]

i dont have peapod and am a long ways away from peapod

[gentle furnace]

Use peapod instead of rattler

Gotta splice more

[snow light]

just been unlucky

[cloud shore]

I did this run like 5 mind ago with a 30k coffee which died at like round 80 you don't need it at a high level

Honestly it can die the coffee doesn't really matter

[snow light]

guess im just getting unlucky looter rolls then

[shy flame]

Should I just make divine punchybois for my vmen or confirm I can at least kill nkruk on all my other characters first?

[ivory arch]

Whats this material?

[rapid shale]

w5 souls

[shy flame]

W5 TD souls

[cloud shore]

Maybe but if yoy can get past wave 90 the rest is smooth

[calm gust]

Anything I should farm with my bubo? It's level 311

[shy flame]

do you have worms map yet

[calm gust]

Only up to bigge moles

[gentle furnace]

What dmg

[calm gust]

Max 300mil min 150mil

[gentle furnace]

CC at OJ

Get more dmg from sailing and alchemy then push to wurms

[cobalt nymph]

I'm pushing my bubo to wurms now

[calm gust]

So go to where oranges?

[cobalt nymph]

ye

[shy flame]

if no worms yet get your vitamin c

[crimson bison]

Should I use the cat for gaming?

[calm gust]

Why oranges?

[calm gust]

Yes

[gentle furnace]

If you active a lot

[gentle furnace]

Best map for cc at w5 besides wurms

[vapid warren]

oranges is good active stage for bubo

[lapis elm]

If you can keep up with it, yes. If you don't want to check in every hour or so, no. Cat is also for chem training.

[calm gust]

I mean for afk

[gentle furnace]

Lab is the only place for afk

[shy flame]

for afk farthest map unlocked, if you're afk farming may as well get exp to get swole too

plus pushing w5, etc

[calm gust]

Ok thx

Discord knows all

[vapid warren]

Is there a limit to how many atoms you can get in a claim? Is that why you need to check every hour?

[shy flame]

for some reason I still haven't pushed to worms with my DK and it sucks

the only limit for atoms is your printer samples

[lapis elm]

Kitsune is technically a bit gain until you have chems

[vapid warren]

I think I'm missing something then >_>

[lapis elm]

But the value of kitsune in bits goes down significantly after chems

[gentle furnace]

i only push actively👍

[vapid warren]

Oh. People refer to kitsune as cat

[lapis elm]

Since your bit gain is cut so harshly

If your goal is bits, don't use kitsune after chems unless you can keep tabs on it very actively

Because 1 chem is a net loss

[vapid warren]

I havent gotten chem yet, so Idk the mechanics behind it

But i'll try to remember the jist of that

[lapis elm]

But kitsune is honestly the only way to get a good nugg unless your rng is crazy

[vapid warren]

My nugget sucks butts, I havent gotten past 50m green bits >_>

[lapis elm]

Chem skips ahead time

[exotic juniper]

kitsune good if im just nugget farming tho, yea?

[ivory arch]

Got green boots

[gentle furnace]

Bad gears

[ivory arch]

Now to wait for purple screws

[lapis elm]

If you don't care about bits at all, kitsune is the way if you can keep up with it and have chems unlocked

Everyone chem loops eventually and everyone gets the same brainrot

[modern plaza]

nah just harvest all and don’t worry about it

[willow dawn]

Anyone got any ideas as to why my gaming bits has fallen off a cliff? Was getting like 30trillion per harvest and in the last few days I'm getting 1-2trillion.

It's not snail loss, that actually has gone up

[modern plaza]

maybe your dk doesn’t have the talent on

[snow light]

i mean i have been just not lucky enough on my looter rolls

[cloud shore]

Ya your close what level I's your burger

You probably just have to keep on trying until you get it

[snow light]

i have been since like the 5th of this month i just been unlucky is all

not everyday but when i do remember i need to run the arena i run it

[cloud shore]

Your levels are fine just get a higher burger

And maybe level up your pet damage vails

[snow light]

gotta wait for eggs now not that i dont have colo tickets the rattler and looter were from gold/plat eggs so i will wait till tomorrow to try again

[shy flame]

egg shininess doesn't affect power

[snow light]

it doesnt?

cool spamming eggs now

[shy flame]

just upgraded my looter and burger to 50k+ by spamming my plain and uh... bronze? eggs

[modern plaza]

egg color does tho

[snow light]

?

so it does?

[shy flame]

Is there a resource that can provide more clarity? I've never seen any evidence on my account that a like plat egg gives me better pets than a plain egg

[sinful aurora]

It's been documented. There's a breeding google doc that exposes it.

[modern plaza]

it’s dumb bc it doesn’t say it would in game

[shy flame]

Is it a different doc from this?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[sinful aurora]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RMuSs6whbM0vJ0jD_oLqK-l3W9y_fYCNbqlM3gHqq9U/edit#gid=0

[snow light]

this is my team for tomorrow when i get the chance

[shy flame]

Thanks, another google doc for my collection

Last updated a year ago but I use IE so I feel like I can't judge, plus it'll be an extreme pain for me to figure out how to do my own data

[cloud shore]

You could probably do it with that I think my burger was even a slight lower level

[snow light]

im not confident enough to do my own data

[snow light]

i hope so i have been doing this for a little under a month now

[cloud shore]

Dam thar sucks ngl I unlocked the bubble 2 hours ago and beat it first try

[shy flame]

For eggs I don't know how to adjust for other factors that influence pet power, most pain for accurate data collection is going to be getting a good pool of data for best accuracy

[snow light]

i got lucky with doot makes sense all my luck is used up so i dont get lucky with looter and other aspects of the game

[fathom lagoon]

Maxed 2 vials today, working on rat tail next

[cloud shore]

I also got lucky with don't though

[snow light]

guess im just not lucky i gotta book my BM talents too as well

[willow dawn]

That was it, thank you!

[shy flame]

Time for my dootless arena 115 attempt

[snow light]

i wish you the best

[shy flame]

I popped BM ability first so technically I get two chances

[cloud shore]

You can probably beat it

[snow light]

if my guys died early cause of bad rng i reset

[cloud shore]

I say you got lime a 80% chancs

[exotic juniper]

whats the best 4 for 115?

what order i mean

[sinful aurora]

Consider that eggs gt increasingly difficult to upgrade the higher rarity they get. At some point it's better to spam lower ones than wait for higher eggs. For pet power, dont go above plat. For max exp stop at silver.

[shy flame]

I don't think I go above silver for power, my current pets were all spammed eggs, silver is just for when my new pet chance across the board is garbage but I still wanna spam egg

[shy flame]

Looter, rattler, empty, peapod, empty, borger I think

[sinful aurora]

New pet chance actually goes down from basic to silver and only gets better after gold.

[exotic juniper]

possible without peadpod?

[snow light]

as i have doot and cant play as often as before since winter break is over now i usually end up with gold/plat at the end of the day

[shy flame]

replace peapod with monolithic or refiller

I've had better success on refiller so far

[sinful aurora]

But also if you want more gray dna, spam basic eggs since upgrading them dont give more.

[exotic juniper]

my scren went to black screen. do i need to refresh or can i play it out from here

[snow light]

if you have BM buff up then you could probably safely restart if not then you might have to wait till your daily reset to make another run

[fierce oracle]

release date

[somber lance]

I did 120 arena with 18k power rattler. Took like 2h tho

[shy flame]

watching alchemic trigger right before a bomb hits

[sinful aurora]

Alchemic is a huge troll mechanic.

Specially when it kills your shield and gets you killed in territory battles.

[shy flame]

seeing that shield coming down to protect your bois and then it's some shit skull

the skull even looks like it's laughing at you

[exotic juniper]

when you accidentally hit database tab at lvl 100 >.>

[shy flame]

I did that first time I hit round 200 in arena

[proven iron]

Wow, breeding fights is some hardcore cheesing.
I finally managed to do everything properly.
This is pretty ridiculous. I have no idea how i'm going to cook any of this at my progression.

[somber lance]

Get to 1-2h speed for new recipe and just use the 10% roll, laddle, roll, laddle etc.

Until it works

Better than waiting a day for 30% chance

[somber lance]

Heh. Then just ignore em for now ig. I was abit behind in spices so it only took me a week to get all from unlocking.

[proven iron]

I just went through the first w4 fight to the end of w5 fights.

In like 20 minutes

Now i at least need to figure out how to actually harvest spices here, huh.

[somber lance]

Looter had a chance to get a spice of 1 tier better i belive. Other than that you'll need like 20k power depending on blooming axe lvl

[exotic juniper]

lol died at lvl 110 😦

[proven iron]

Damn checked the next jewel and i completely forgot

How the hell i'm going to get 5k spices in 1.5 weeks

[exotic juniper]

what is next?

[patent hatch]

O poggers a bit over two weeks out

[proven iron]

I doubt that its possible for me

[fathom lagoon]

Yoooooooo

Feb 16

hype

[late grove]

is there a way

to improve my traps

[worthy shoal]

!trapchart

[obtuse orbit]

Created by ..someone

[worthy shoal]

Place them all from the drone with the hunter with its best setting

[late grove]

okey thanks alot

[zealous niche]

Unless you’re only after exp and then a transfusion boosted vman places the traps

[late grove]

i did the vman

and keeping him good in the exp part i think

[zealous niche]

So vman should place their own traps and hunter does everybody else

[late grove]

okey doing that

[true obsidian]

i don't think so, even if you place by hunter with drone, they still count the trap each character use, so i think best way is do it one by one

[zealous niche]

Irrelevant what you think, lava’s patch notes say otherwise

[worthy shoal]

No, it use the stats of the character you use to place.

So for best effi, use hunter. For best exp, use vman.

These stats are snapshotted and are the ones used when collecting

[shy flame]

hunter for all except vman, vman for vman is how I'm doing it (vman right and left hands lend us your power)

[zealous niche]

More for species epoch

[worthy shoal]

You can do full vman if you intend to level up your characters.

[shy flame]

oh right I forget species epoch exists and is also very good and I should work on it

[worthy shoal]

Vman trapping levels are really not a problem :

[sinful aurora]

I do vman on hunter and wizard to benefit from vman's talent that increase critters and souls gains from the addition of the lv of the 2 skills.

[shy flame]

my account is uh, poorly optimized to be generous, so I'm currently doing a bunch of little things I should have taken care of awhile ago

Not saying it's only way or even best practice, just how I'm approaching it

[worthy shoal]

I don't play active at all so I understand perfectly how you feel.

[shy flame]

I play "active" if you count leaving idleon running overnight and all day with auto on as active

[worthy shoal]

Yes, it does.

[shy flame]

lol it just feels so weird calling "yeah I look at my idleon screen once a day for like 30 minutes" active

[worthy shoal]

Compared with "Idleon is opened 30 minutes a day", it is.

[shy flame]

yeah, fair enough

[worthy shoal]

For example leveling up alchemy is a a pain in my case and cranium cooking and giants nice legends.

[upper slate]

what should you do after Divinity + Lab grind?
I'm thinking of pushing half my characters to W5 boss and leveling up skill mastery points with the rest

I'm following IE autoreview bot so most of the earlier stuff are being worked on already

[true obsidian]

does anyone know which thing in game need crab?

[upper slate]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Crabbo

[noble mesa]

Save for the vail

[indigo grove]

o. neat +100 star talents(dont do what i did, i just have no idea where to drop my people)

[shy flame]

nothing grind OP

[indigo grove]

at least that is "close" (not really last one is like 60k? for w7) to being finished. unless lava decides to add more to it... but at least i have the trophy from that already.

[night locust]

whats the card set up for ES farming basic mats like for ex. " Bean Slices"?

[upper slate]

DR, %Base stats

[glossy rain]

is there any use for sailing when having all artifacts?

[upper slate]

Divinity upgrades and alchemy bubble upgrades

[glossy rain]

what divinity upgrades tho?

[upper slate]

Arctis blessing lvl

[terse oracle]

Help

[glossy rain]

ah well

so im going to ignore it i guess

[terse oracle]

My movement speed is stuck on 175%

Dan someone help me?

*can

[glossy rain]

forgot speed pots?

idk

if you are close below 175 there are some bonuses that only go up to 175

so you might not see a change when adding small bonuses

[sharp vine]

so....close....

[granite charm]

nah that's perfect alr

[terse oracle]

I use 2 diff speed pots and the chip that +30% movement speed if below 170%

[hardy elbow]

What should I or any player definitely do before w6?

[sharp vine]

Not sure anything really changes until we see what the W6 systems are tbh. If your levels and damage are good already then you know you'll be able to push the world pretty quickly. Otherwise I'd say just tidy up on stuff like skill levels/equips/start saving gems to buy W6 boosts

[hardy elbow]

Gem saving, f.. you're right ty

[rapid shale]

youre hitting the max boost at 175 with tuft of hair sigil

[vapid warren]

Do the first 4 boats loot level up at the same rate? Is there one thats more efficient than the others?

in sailing*

[rapid shale]

first boat is easiest to level up cause its gold bars for both stats

[vapid warren]

I have all boats, im just curious for long term

[terse oracle]

But i only have 11 sigils

Is this normal?

[rapid shale]

wdym level up at the same rate? the cost is about the same for boats 2 and 3, just a matter of how you divide getting resources

[vapid warren]

Things like in idle skilling, where leveling up the last trainer in an 'area' is much more cash efficient.

It appears to be quite close in efficiency, I Was just wondering if there is a general concensus on which to focus, guess not.

[rapid shale]

well the first boat is for leveling like i said, cause it only takes gold bars so it levels the fastest

its like 50 levels ahead of my others rn

[versed shale]

10x droprate, 66k kills and no key..does droprate not affect the keys or what?

only active kills btw

[rapid shale]

multikill and kpk wont count so you dont realistically have 66k kills

[versed shale]

ok until now i believed that active means that kills count like without multikill..just saw taht every kill gives me like 30 kills

[keen moon]

do you run midas prayer if going for afk statues? i would assume so

[sweet pine]

just a bit more

[upper elm]

which god should i focus on getting to before i start trying to push maps in W5? im at arcturis

[somber lance]

Goat imo

[upper elm]

so for real just deep afk divinity until Goat?

W5 meta seems weird to me lmao

[somber lance]

The beginig is weird. Just keep 6 at divinity with arcturius. And 4 to farm

[upper elm]

i think only my DK can handle W5 right now tbh. hes the only one i've pushed with. getting the fruitflies and bloaches for higher FMJ and Shaq is quite the task

[proven iron]

Defence shouldnt be that much of a problem. You probably didnt setup other stuff properly. Build automated arm and slap like 3 stacks of automated food on everyone.

They will survive through anything with that.

[steady beacon]

I'm about to do a vman sample run on w4/w5 mobs. Any tips? which cards should I double? multikill, or damage?

and which card set? AFK, or damage?

[humble garnet]

it will take weeks to unlock goat lol

[raven fog]

On tool tim my bones is 110

Whats there besides stanps to get better water my crystal is 3.77 and cruimum skill and tentacles eye is 307

[true obsidian]

hope i can reach 20k before w6

[humble garnet]

nice flex

[pastel bramble]

when candying bubbles do u have to turn off atom collider or do you just make sure you level bubble before the hourly tick?

[uncut knot]

How important are sigils bc they seem like they take too long to do anything

[sweet pine]

also are you going to turn off atom collider when using printer go brrr?

[muted plover]

the last one... im not crying you are crying

[lyric sequoia]

Last 1 until next month you mean

[sweet pine]

+1 freedom

[lyric sequoia]

And then you’ll regret handing in all your crit statues when that 7x multi becomes 9x

[lyric sequoia]

The collider only converts on an update action, so just don’t use another candy if you’ve got a bunch of clicking to do first or change zones or cloud save

And on the hour ofc

At least in terms of stack excess

[pastel bramble]

thanks 😄

excess over 1050m on the hour still gets converted into atoms too right

even if u have collider off

[lyric sequoia]

Ye

All 1050m excess gets converted when you do 1 of the actions I said above regardless of collider state

Generally you never actually need collider turned on

[pastel bramble]

yeah thanks just planning my bubbles 😄 i realized im a tad behind 😄

[granite grove]

collider off is just protecting against the unfortunate moment of switching to device with 10m conversion threshold

[lyric sequoia]

It being off also prevents you accidentally clicking the stack button and losing all your max stacks

Only real downside is that collider looks dumb in town when turned off

[pastel bramble]

oh i just noticed we have a release date 16th feb 😄

[hollow gazelle]

Ye I still have so many things to do

[slate mauve]

Is there a list of snail level multiplier or is it RNG?

Asking as a new owner of a Snail

[pastel bramble]

as a new owner of a snail, prepare thy bootyhole for a wrathful end

[teal lynx]

Equinox Symbols done. Now I can finally invest into Matching Scims

[graceful tinsel]

Someone reposted this a while ago and it seems right

[teal lynx]

If you wanna know what multiplier the Snail gives it's 2^snail level
So 2x, 4x, 8x, 16x, 32x and so on

[slate mauve]

Thanks! So snails are pretty good to grow then

[graceful tinsel]

yea i think its the best upgrade there is, i think it provides more bit multi than nuggets but i might be wrong about that

[tight saddle]

Anyone else putting their killroy skulls mainly into arcade balls?

I feel like I am at a point where there is not really that much need for candies, dices, books, refinery, eggs or laddles

Well I could do refinery for green stacks but it doesn't seem worth it to buy cycles with skulls

[granite grove]

holy pearls to prep for w6 and later level

[teal lynx]

My nugget is giving me 5x more multi than a lvl 25 Snail 😅
But they work together. So both are absolutely necessary for progress

[tight saddle]

Could buy candies to boost furnace for ingot greenstacks, but eeeeeh

[graceful tinsel]

oh dam well there ya go xD

my nugget is pretty bad so my snail might be better

[teal lynx]

To be fair my nug is one of the highest there is

[tight saddle]

That could be worth it. Could also use pearls to get everyone to 500 for equinox - they seem quite powerful

[teal lynx]

Unfortunately my snail is still lvl 15

[tight saddle]

I cucked my snail from 19 to 15 like 3 weeks ago :( I got too greedy

[granite grove]

also that holy pearl potency/value only rises with each additional level too so it gets more valuable towards w8

[graceful tinsel]

my nug, and my snail is 18

[teal lynx]

I did that the first time I got to 19. Then never got past 17 and now I just save and hope for some mechanic in W6

[lament hearth]

Question about the Slab. If I built all my weapons, but because I did it before slab existed. And even before anvil would remember you crafted shit. Does that mean I have to remake all the weapons, including the gloves? 🙃😭

[pastel bramble]

level it to 40% success chance for 15-20

worked for me without a single reset

[teal lynx]

Yeah. A little higher
Even then your Nug gives more than my Snail

[graceful tinsel]

yea looks like my nug is about 4x my snail

[teal lynx]

I might try that with W6 release if we don't get any mechanic to snail. Saving Mail won't hurt me for now

[pastel bramble]

the hard part is 22-25 lol ive reset so many times now

[teal lynx]

23 would be enough for the superbit

[pastel bramble]

this is with about 9 mail invested

u start at such low % past 20

success chance is like 0.1% per mail, and fail chance goes down by about 0.3-0.4 then scales down pretty fast

[teal lynx]

I will gamble to 22 if I ever get to 20 snail
No encourage. At some point it will work

[pastel bramble]

at world 6 ill be using my gold stopwatches finally and hoping i can get a bit of progress 😄

[teal lynx]

24. I will pray for you

[pastel bramble]

its ok by then ill have my 1bn nugget failsafe surely

[dire anchor]

whats the best use of bubo cc early on when youve reached 200 tent

[pastel bramble]

flombeiges > oranges > wurms

[teal lynx]

Wurms > Citringes > Floms > Choco > Cans > Moustaches I believe

[dire anchor]

yeah on citringes but i mean more do i farm my GT up or farm my cap and rate for liquid first? or

[pastel bramble]

cap/rate is smartest

since higher rate = more grind time 😄

[dire anchor]

i need to do equinox a little to get the liquidivestment thing

[pastel bramble]

i would get that 99% before u start tbh

it makes life so much easier

[teal lynx]

If you wanna bring GT to 1k-2k early on that's also fine. But don't invest too much into GT

[dire anchor]

yeah i mean its 272 rn its not close to 1k

[empty hinge]

Do symbol of beyond stack?

[dire anchor]

im just finally getting more than 1 cc an hour so wasnt sure if it was all just meant to be spent in rate and cap for liquids or not

[pastel bramble]

oh yh dont forget to unlock ur w6 bubbles in advance too

will save u a bit of time on w6 release

[dire anchor]

yeah that would be ideal tbh i think im gonna active bubo quite a lot for the next couple weeks before w6 so i can get further in alch

[pastel bramble]

what skill is that, is that the equinox one?

[empty hinge]

When i deposited one skill i got it to lvl 21

No

Its a skill

[dire anchor]

oh the bottom right talent

of elite classes

[pastel bramble]

they stack with equinox i believe and rift slug

but not each other

1 char wont buff another char with that bottom right talent, only itself

[dire anchor]

and ES i think the family bonus is more talent lvls

[empty hinge]

I see thats why im getting this much

[tight saddle]

What in the...

[sharp mauve]

When I should stop focusing on Divinity? I have all characters on there, unlocked 3rd God, and are around lv 7-9. I dunno which character should I go active farming.

[zinc torrent]

when u get Doot

[quartz crystal]

get goat god then link them and put in lab

[knotty helm]

What levels should the refineries be? 1 and 2 as high as you can right?

[somber lance]

1st on both pages max

[dire anchor]

is there a td setup for a low level w5 td like just to get to 50 for equinox?

[teal lynx]

Always set Red and Green salt to 0%
If you still struggle with resources follow the Refinery Chart in the Pins of #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮. If you can get resources easily, then you can rank them up infinitely

[loud flower]

Why is colo2 so slow to send in the new waves?

[sharp egret]

it pauses for the skilling stuff I think, dunno if that is skippable somehow

[teal lynx]

You have HP increasing Prayers - Midas, Jawbreaker, Big Brain Time

[glacial venture]

hp prayers i guess

[loud flower]

Sure enough I had a hp prayer

[teal lynx]

I'm just gonna copy what I wrote a second ago

[worthy shoal]

Hp prayers boost ressource nodes hp.
Hp decreasing in w2 colo is a fixed damage

[teal lynx]

So higher HP on Nodes = Longer time between Waves
Let's say they have 10hp and drain 1hp every second
The prayer would make it 10x more and it then takes 100 seconds instead of 10 for the nodes to disappear. Not sure on the HP and drain stuff, but that's closely why you need to unequip those prayers

[worthy shoal]

Lava forgot to boost the flat damage based on the prayer, that's the real issue

[sharp egret]

ah duration based on hp makes sense I guess but not something I would have thought of

[worthy shoal]

Learn the code with Idleon by retro-engineering the numerous in-game bugs !!!

[sharp egret]

i wish the game had an additional programmer that just fixes bugs and gives some things a bit polish

[glacial venture]

would have helped if lava made it -% instead of fixed dmg

[worthy shoal]

Comparison Issue, Overflow Issue, Maths issue, Translation Issue, you will experiment all of those and much more !

[worthy shoal]

Sometimes he did.
Loved the time when he added the chip to double the starsign effect (even the malus).

I let you guess what the 6% afk gain, -60%hp did at the time ..

Insta kill in a loop for every affected characters 😄

[thorn light]

Not sure if this is the place to ask this but is there a good way to farm trapping xp? On my vman i find it kinda hard to level up trapping, to the point where it takes a couple days for 1 level. Not sure if i'm doing anything wrong, i place the 20hrs X75 xp trap at blobfish and it only gives me 60M xp

Also, while I understand that placing traps that last less hours gives better xp, i still won't do it. Is it supposed to give so little xp or am I doing something wrong?

[pale jay]

If you got all the skill xp multipliers on, that's the best you'll do.
Trapping doesn't keep scaling like e.g. construction, so it will slow down bit by bit.

[thorn light]

Guess i'll have to hope for a new w6 critter that gives decent xp

[glacial venture]

speaking of trapping...did anyone check if traps are affected by golden watch?

[noble sable]

It is

#endgame-gen-chat pins

[glacial venture]

so...its a no then

only the gathering of the traps is reset

[worldly gulch]

When is it roughly worth to start farming statues? I have never ever bothered about them so far, but during my material farm with ES (using crystal cards and cookie chip because lootsplosion goes brrr) I noticed that the amount of found statues isnt even that low anymore. If I did the same thing on DK, this might yield a decent amount I feel, but idk if I am at a point where this is worth my active time yet.

Any generic guideline as to when it becomes worth it to active farm statues?

[sharp egret]

golden watch seems to only trigger a new day and doesn't progress time anywhere

[prisma drift]

1/32 crystal chance about

Statues are strong

Worth the farm if you can

[worldly gulch]

ooof at 1/32 it becomes worth it to start it and not earlier?

I got a long way to go, I think I am at around 1/120

[sharp egret]

do you have choco chip? if so I don't think waiting that long makes sense

[prisma drift]

Well you can do it earlier depending on what else you have to do on your account

[teal lynx]

Decent Crystal Chance (4 Star Cards + Doublers), Choco Chip and atleast 12x dr

[prisma drift]

But 1/120 would take quite a while to make real gains on statues

[worldly gulch]

I do have choco chip yes, but no doublers. Got ruby genie and gold poop.

Might whale a doubler :-x

[prisma drift]

You can start farming crystals for more pens to run Colo 3 and then farm gems

That way you can f2p grind gems to buy out chips

[sharp egret]

i did most of my onyx statues before getting the chip but it was a bit of a pain